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0:03Watch what happens when there's so much that happens Watch what crappens Watch what crappens Who cares what happens when there's so much that crappens Well, hello and welcome to Watch What Crappens. I'm Ronnie and that's Ben over there. Hello, Ben. Hello, Ronnie. How are you? How are you, buddy? Doing pretty well, thanks. Happy Monday to you, too. Yeah. Are you ready to embrace this week of activity? Yeah, heck yeah. Grab it by the nuts. Swing it around. Welcome to the show, everybody. It's Real Housewives of Potomac Day here at Crappens. It's also Amazon Live Day. We will be on Amazon Live tonight at 4 p.m.
0:51Well, this afternoon at 4 p.m. Pacific time. You can find links at our Instagram, link in bio, okay? Monday's at 4. That's what we're doing every other Monday. And when we're not doing that, we're doing Crappy Hour at 5.30 p.m. Pacific time. Also, if you want these videos, we do recaps on video every day over at patreon.com slash watch what crap ends. That's also where you get bonus episodes. Okay. This week we did. We shopped on Amazon together. Completely unaffiliated with Amazon Live just for fun because it was like a Prime Day type thing. And we do a lot of previews. We do a lot of bonus episodes.
1:28Just lots of stuff. Go over there and check it out. And that's it for that. So how are you feeling in general? How's life treating you? Life's treating me very well. Et cetera. Et cetera. It's good. I mean, I think that like, I feel like on the Bravo front all weekend long, I just feel like I've been talking to people or pondering or watching content about Wendy. And it's like this scandal has really just, I don't know, it's really just, I think it's captured a lot of people's attention. I don't think it's as big as Scandalball. I don't know if we will ever see anything out of Bravo that's as big as that.
2:04But this one, I feel like, does have a bit of that shock factor that we haven't seen since then. Like, this is a real, it's like a shocker. And what this scandal has going for it, as much as scandals have things going for them, is that much like Scandaval, this one broke very early in the season. So I think Scandaval, there have been like maybe three episodes that had already aired of that season. How does that keep happening? I don't know, but we spent the rest of the season looking for like breadcrumbs and Easter eggs and signs. And what's going to be, I think, really captivating about this season of Potomac is we're going to obviously be watching it with that POV of like Wendy and Eddie and like, you know, like the things that they say that are damning, et cetera, the signs that were there under our noses.
2:55because so I think like I do think this one has the possibility to snowball in a little bit of a way but it won't be as big as Scandaball not that anyone's asking but no I don't think it will be I mean now that I've had some time to you know think about sit with it I held space for it I sat with it but now that I've sat with it it's it's not that big of a deal oh okay well I mean look it's It's a little insurance fraud. Sure. They faked a robbery, whatever. I don't know. I still believe it's happened so many times on Beverly Hills that they still haven't gotten caught. And I think the other scandals have been a lot bigger.
3:33You know, we've got the Jen Shaw thing. That was a huge one. You know, Scandal Ball, obviously. I think that this one is going to be a blip. I think she'll be able to come back from it. I think in the Bravo world, doing a little insurance fraud isn't that big of a deal. Team Wendy. Well, I think, I mean, she will have to, I think, start doing, once everything plays out, there's going to be the book, How I Lost Everything or whatever it is, Zen Wen, and then she'll go on the book tour. She'll do the I Got Caught Up. This is what I've learned. And then she'll do motivational speaking. So I think that will be her path going forward.
4:12But I think what's different from this versus like Teresa or Jen Shaw, for instance, or Erika Girardi. Erica Girardi was a big one, but that was really more of a Tom scandal than an Erica scandal. But like there was already inklings about Tom. And the thing is, Jen Shaw was already like, we're like, how does she support this business? Like her Shaw squad, you know, she already seemed like full of bullshit as it was. And Teresa and Joe, I mean, come on. Like they already had the thing where like Joe like crashed his car and then drank five shots of whiskey afterwards because he was so shaken up.
4:45Like there's already shadiness surrounding them. but this much like Scandaval, I feel like this one came out of left field and like surprise, like it shook our very idea of who these people were and are. And so that's why I think this one is like really fascinating. And I think it'll be really fun to track over the course of the season. Yeah. I mean, if you look at their money, I think one of the reasons it's shocking is because they do seem to be living kind of within their means. I mean, I know there were a lot of Birkin bags and people have posted clips of, you know, like when she wore the moulin, the Mugler dress.
5:19And someone was like, yeah, I hope she didn't return that yet. You know, Nneka was like, I hope she didn't return that one. You know, little comments that are kind of housewives, bread and butter comments that people make, you know, like there's always the housewife that her tags is showing the Sonia Morgan. And there's always that kind of thing. But I think aside from that kind of stuff, they seem to be living within their means. I mean, they live kind of far out of town and they live in a house that I don't think is too ostentatious really in the housewives world. So I would like, they're not like, yes, they're not like super splashy.
5:53It's not like watching Stephanie's show jai. However, I was watching a clip this morning on social media. Some lady got on to social media and she frosted a cake. Like the video, the visual was just frosting a cake, but then she's explaining her theories on Wendy, which I was like, this is a great hook. Cause I'm watching this. You saw that same one. It's like, wow, I'm like invested. I'm going to sit here for four minutes and see how this cake turns out, but I'm also going to listen to your theory. She was doing weird things to the cake, right? It's like she was putting icing on it. And then what was she pouring caramel on top?
6:24And then she was icing on top again and then caramel again. I mean, that's crazy. Whatever she was doing looked amazing. You know, I was just, I was in it to see like the way, the way she worked that scraper. Um, but she brought up something that is so, I think important in terms of understanding this, which is she brought up a lot of different points. And, you know, the woman, she said she has, she has African parents and she brought in a lot of theories about like what it's like being raised with a very assertive African mother and the pressure that is to have grades, et cetera. But like that aside, she did mention, you know, uh, uh, she has, um, Wendy has like five degrees, right?
7:07That comes with a huge amount of student debt. and then eddie also is a lawyer so that's going to have some student debt so the truth is they probably have an enormous amount of debt that is in their life well we knew that because remember a couple years ago there was an article saying they're going to lose everything because they have all this debt and it's all student debt and you know this and that and so we've known that there's like crushing crippling debt for a while and we're wondering like how are they doing it but that's why I guess I'm bringing that up because it's like, it seems like they live within their means.
7:39It's like, yes, it seems that way, but like that's not taking into account that you have five degrees worth of debt. And on top of that, this, this person was also theorizing, you know, where like there's a lot of pressure to send money back to the family and like Nigeria and yada, yada. I don't, I can't speak to that. And if that's, if that is actually a reality in their life, but like that could be something else, but like at the very least, they definitely have a huge amount of student debt. So even them living within their means is still probably them being in the, is it the black or the red?
8:15When are you bank? When are you bank? When are you in debt, red or black? Whatever color it is. Because I lose on both of them in Vegas. So I'm not really sure. I don't think in the red is in debt. Yeah. They're in the red. Okay. I'm not going to comment on that. Cause I don't, I don't know. That could be her new tagline Just because I'm in the red Doesn't mean I won't read you I may be out of the red But I'm still seeing wed Dr. Wendy I don't know I'm calmed down from this whole thing And I say nothing I say free Wendy This is America What's a little insurance fraud I mean come on this is america get over it i just love guys america i just want you all to know i'm calm down it's okay i'm calm about it you know it's not one of those it's like really sticking in my craw that i'm like oh my god i can't believe that's about wendy i got over the initial shock and then i was like who hasn't who hasn't pretended but i mean here's the thing though the here's what what the most shocking thing about it is how dumb they are like they were literally so stupid about the crime.
9:32They made no planning. They went to, I think, were they in Jamaica? I think they were in Jamaica on vacation. They were somewhere on vacation and they decided to fake this robbery. So they, they reported all this stuff that was missing that was actually returned to stores. So first of all, that's extremely stupid. Like, duh. I mean, that's an easy thing to follow, especially because receipts are emailed, stuff like that. Then Eddie sent her an email, an email bin, an email that said, hey, I need to add more stuff to this list. Do you have any more high priced items that we can add to this insurance list?
10:08Because I want to max out the coverage. I want to max out the policy. So that was extremely stupid. They also have ring cams and a security camera. Nothing was on the ring cams. No one was in their house. There was no movement in their house. So instead, what they did was they they bent up a screen from their skylight or something, and they said that someone came in through the skylight. So that's why they weren't on the ring cams. OK, well, I hate those parachuting robbers. But don't you even watch like CSI or anything or law and order even? I mean, if someone came in through the screen light and stepped onto the toilet, there would be some kind of footprint or debris on the toilet.
10:50And the cops were like, that was a clean toilet. No one came in there. And when the cops came in to test it, they've got debris all over the toilet. So, I mean, just little things like that, that I would think that if you're going to do something for around half a million dollars, if you're going to commit that kind of fraud, that you would make some kind of an effort, you know, like put a Roomba with a wig on and have it move around the house. Like a Roomba with a wig. Do something to make the motion detectors go off. I mean, come on, man. simpson but you know the thing is also like i didn't i did not know about this skylight thing but what's also hilarious about it is they okay so a robber somehow descends on the house maybe a trebuchet flung him onto the roof from the woods and he goes into the skylight he gathers all these items and now this like you know the hamburglar with his sack on his back of of goods now has to somehow ascend back up through the skylight and get out because like the motion didn't detect anyone coming in or coming out unless that person did like a full-on parasite and went on and just barricaded themselves into the basement like what this is so lazy i have to say this does not bode well for cannabis company owners because the only way i can imagine they hatch this plan these two very smart people is if they were high as fuck i'm sorry like this is a high ass plan and they probably did it and then they're like fuck we just committed insurance fraud gotta commit to the bit now yeah i guess um yeah so that was the most shocking part to me It was just the lack of art in the pull off, you know, like, where is the art here, people?
12:43Come on. So because there was such a lack of art, I say those are not career criminals and they should get off. They should get like a week.
12:58and then they should get an apology from america for making it for making all these laws that predatory lenders can do this and put you in that kind of debt um that's what i say that's what wendy should really do she should like take that like luigi mangioni like populist ethos and and be like i'm taking it to the insurance companies that are destroying our lives that's like an she could try to do she probably won't succeed but when student debt lenders that is that is they are predatory that is a big deal yeah um i i do when you say that they're not career criminals is the implication that someone like joe judice if you let him off the hook he's just gonna go back to like shady ass ways where where these guys judice is a career criminal yes that guy is just gonna that guy is gonna do something shady right no matter what you keep him out of general population for as long as possible but like uh but like wendy and eddie they are bumbling academics who did not do this wendy's just a girl who wanted all these degrees then didn't want to do any of those jobs i mean really with all of those degrees she was like i don't want a job that has to do with any of these degrees i want to be an influencer and a youtuber and sell candles and i think that that's the american dream and we should support that you know they were just trying to get out of a little debt come on i'm just a girl standing in front of a boy asking him to commit insurance fraud for me by denting the skylight the screen of the skylight the screen oh my god did you dent the screen of the skylight okay we're safe we're safe nailed it um but then there are other things like they were supposed to speak at a like criminal justice type event where it was about, you know, laws that affect cannabis sales.
14:52I mean, something like that, you know. And then there was another thing posted where they, the day of the robbery. Let me look at this. I found it on Reddit. But this is from Bravo Real Housewives on Reddit. It says, Wendy used Bonnie and Clyde by Jay-Z for her Instagram post the same day that she called the police. her and Eddie are dressed up for some quoting Bonnie and Clyde I mean there's just so many things like that that are I mean you put your hand on your face you know you put your hand on your face and you just shake your head wow but then we move into episodes like today and look there are no clues right because this was kind of a one time that we know of type deal where they just did something stupid um but so i'm not really looking for clues but it is awkward watching the show because like today she has a whole scene with um uh stacy i almost called her breathy that's not nice i'm not gonna do that um the show is not gonna make me bully bully stacy over her breath um but anyway she had that whole scene where she's like is she why is she lying is she lying is she she's always lying i'm trying to trust her but she's always lying lying lying lying lying lying lying and And, you know, that makes it a little more awkward, I guess.
16:12A little cringy. Cringy. Well, let's get into it. This episode is episode two of season 10, and it's called Mint to be Shady. So Potomac is up to these. Oh, by the way, another thing. Sorry, one last thing is that people were posting clips from season five after the famous Monique and Candace fight where Wendy was like lecturing Monique. And now people are like, Monique, your time has come. You get to turn the tables right on to Wendy. So that'll be interesting if that happens. Where she was saying, I hold people accountable. I don't care who you are. I'm the accountability queen. Okay, so here we are at Ashley's second bloom ball.
16:55Okay, so she's fighting with Stacey. And she's saying, you're a full-grown woman. And you came into this group and misrepresented yourself. And she's like, and you are a messy devil. You're a devil. but you must represent ourselves so I just burped in my middle of my Ashley line I got possessed by a demon what's wrong with you and now you're going to make fun of Stacy's breath all day it was a coffee burp which yes probably smelled bad Stacy goes you are the devil and she goes stop lying so then AJ is there that's Stacy's friend he's like okay so the way you guys want to be amicable and be good girlfriends is for her to show that she's been divorced, even though, I mean, she's back with him, right?
17:40That's what you want. And Tia's like, well, she doesn't even want to feel like she's been lied to. Oh, and by the way, I feel like all this Wendy talk, we did not really address for me what was the big headline, which is how much I love Tia. And I just think this is a great casting choice. I love an uppity British housewife. Good job, Potomac. Yeah, I love her. I love her voice. Yeah, it's perfect. So good to be in this group. I don't know what anybody's even saying. I don't understand anybody's, I don't understand any of these terms we're using. I'm a princess. It's time for a commercial. It's time for a Crappins commercial.
18:25So Ashley is saying, you know, back in January, Stacey was with TJ. And here we are, three months have passed and you've magically gotten back together with your ex-husband. Ashley, you are such a fucking hypocrite. What about all of this Michael Darby crap that we've been dealing with from you for years? You're leaving him. You're not leaving him. You're divorcing him. You haven't filed for divorce. So much, even this latest thing with you dating Beavis and then pretending that you're single to go on Love Hotel to get that check. And then we come back and, oh, you're still dating Beavis. You are such a fucking liar.
18:57I can't believe the Ashley of all people. and also to be coming after someone's breath you've had michael darby in your mouth for over a decade no one no one has more disgusting shit in their mouth than you i cannot believe you are coming and no one has more disgusting shit coming out of their mouth than you we've heard you're singing all over the clips on the internet and the television man leave stacy alone yeah i totally agree also she's right she's completely right so ash is like so your hand's like very blingy like Like, what's going on with the hand? And Stacey's like, yeah, well, my ex-husband and I are trying to work it out, and that's fine.
19:36So Ashley is like, man, the math is not mathing. I'm like, that's what I often say about why you're dating these old trolls like Ralph and Michael. Math is not mathing for me. It does not make any sense. I know. I like that. I wish that every time she said something about Stacey's breath, we just got, you know, clips of her making out with Michael and making out with Ralph and all of these gross dudes, you know. So Giselle's like, do I think Stacey is divorced? No. Do I think Stacey wants us to think she filed for a divorce and now she's back with her husband? Didn't you just have a whole fake storyline to pretend that you got back with your husband two years ago because you had nothing going on in your life, ma 'am?
20:20Did you or did you not? This cast, they are such hypocrites. Giselle and Ashley are the biggest fucking hypocrites, and I will not believe it. I believe from now to here forth, I declare that Stacey has minty fresh breath, and these people are just lying. I don't believe a thing they're saying. I believe what they're saying. They just might not be the best messengers for the story. I mean, look, they're basically like— Well, let's get back to shooting the messengers. I think that messengers deserve some shit. I think that they are just like, be original. We are like, I already faked getting back with my husband.
20:58You can't come and do that. And as she's like, I already faked divorcing. Like you can't do that. Come with something new, Stacey. So AJ is, AJ is basically like, okay. Stacey's next plot is selling kangaroo meat. That'd be really strong. No, I hope her next, her next plot is selling little caps that say like, not embellish but maybe like bellish but robin's not even around to trigger you know it'd still be fun but maybe she'll sell a candle so i actually think it's her living room a really terrible shade of purple like giselle yeah i hope she takes a perfectly cute older house and does like winchester mystery house things to it so ashley is saying principle is very important to me and we can be a lot of things, but we can't be liars.
21:50Oh, yeah. When I look at Michael Darby, I say, look at that principled man. Now I see why she fell for him. A very principled Gollum. You know, to go after that ring requires a lot of principle. Sorry, say it again. Sorry, I thought you were doing it. To go after that ring requires a lot of principle. I mean, you don't just like go to Mordor without principles. And it wasn't too long ago that Ashley was lying for Gollum in his sexual assault case against the cameraman. Shut up. so then uh kiana is like um well when he comes to me i meet you with vulnerability and in my mind i'm like okay maybe she's talking to wendy and she's like wendy may be socially awkward when i see her in public or i'm missing something here and wendy is just so bored already with kiana and her her tri fight she's just like okay so just to show you how we have different ways in which we friend you're saying if i'm on stage i should wave and then you say for the n double a cp i I didn't know if I was coming.
22:48Well, you know what? I didn't because my kids are sick. And I actually told them that. I said, maybe I can speak at your event and maybe I can't. What kind of event is this that they don't just replace somebody if they can't speak? They're just like, hey, we're having an event. Speak if you can. Speak if you can. I do not believe for one second Wendy is going to skip an NAACP event for like her kids being under the weather. This is not like going to the opening of like Mia's joint chiropractic. because NAACP is a major influential organization. Wendy is there with bells on. She's getting her sisters coming in.
23:23Her mom's coming in. Someone's taking care of those kids. Wendy is not missing NAACP. Yeah, Wendy lives for that. Yeah, Wendy lives for that type of stuff. I think she probably said that to Kierna, like, well, I don't know if I'm going. Maybe I'm going, maybe I'm not. Because she knew that Kierna was going to be like, oh my God, we should go together. Why don't we go together in the same car and then we'll enter together and all this. And Wendy's like, you're not taking my red carpet moment and my limo. Sorry. Wendy's like, I like, I don't, I don't think Wendy gets down with Kieran. I think Wendy's, Wendy probably assumed like many people that Kieran was like a one and done housewife.
23:57And it was like, I don't want to like, like, I don't really like you like that. Like we're friends on the show. It was cute, but like, no, I, I think I'm, I think I want to take my spot. I'm not sharing my spotlight at this event. Yeah. And now she's like, really? oh this is gonna be my lot in life this season I'm gonna be stuck feuding with Kierna they gave me a JV fight oh geez she's so annoyed she's like I better commit some insurance fraud to get something more exciting going on here and even Angel who was brought on by Kierna I was like yeah maybe there was just some miscommunication she's like no I'm being gaslighted and you know she's acting all of a sudden like this is in my head and Wendy's just like where did Stacey go Can we just talk about breath?
24:43I would really prefer if we, can we just talk about some Mentos? You're so above the things that I'm saying, Wendy. And Wendy's like, I don't care. So Ashley sits down and she asks if they've made any progress. And Karen was like, well, we've made progress. But it's the same thing. Wendy apologized. I just feel like it's just a bit dismissive in the moment. And it's like, yeah, because you're, first of all, she's wearing, Wendy's wearing an enormous dress and she probably wants to be walking around and showing it off. and she's stuck having an argument with you when you came and interrupted her and then said that she was rude for not acknowledging you when you interrupted her.
25:17And now you're like hashing out the fact that like she didn't wave to you from stage while she was speaking, which is really one of the most ludicrous requests that we've ever heard on these shows. So yeah, like, yeah, I think that Wendy does feel a bit like above right now. Yeah, so the girls all start to gather around and Wendy's like, okay, look, Angel, welcome. Tia, welcome. Listen, I just wear a big whoop and I want all of us to flow. and Ashley's like, yeah, you know, well, Stacy's lying and didn't you tell me that Stacy told you that she has a charade and she doesn't want to drop the charade?
25:48And Karen is like, yeah, she did tell me that in Lake Norman. That's what she said. So now she's coming for Stacy, Karen. So Stacy's like, what did I say to you? She goes, yeah, in Lake Norman, you were talking to TJ in the room and I said, Stacy, are you ever going to show the girls exactly who you were like and like kind of break character? And you said, oh, absolutely not. which i have to imagine if that did happen stacy was like no like meaning not like oh absolutely not i've got a cover-up is like a joke like these bitches i'm i'm being careful around them right which i think is like a pretty okay thing to joke about or say or even be said seriously like i'm gonna be careful i don't think she was saying i have a secret self and i'm gonna keep it hidden and no one's gonna know about it but i'm telling you that i have it like she's really she's munching on the arm of a baby.
26:38She's like, no, I'm not going to bring that on stage. You know what? I'm going to do what I want off camera. On camera, I'll be somewhat different. Eating babies and, you know, setting small towns afire. What is she like off camera that's so completely different? And Kiana, aren't you the one who just got a condo to film in so you didn't have to show your boyfriend, you fakie, and trying to fake a breakup because you want everyone to think you broke up so he doesn't have to come on camera. So you're not lying for the cameras. This is what's making me crazy. Every single person that's coming for her is a total hypocrite.
27:11But that's always what Potomac has been. Like, you have to actually kind of embrace that because that's what's so funny about this show. They're always hypocrites. Karen Huger. I mean, she started this tone 10 years ago of like, I'm the grand dame. And she's like, not the grand dame of anything. She's all about etiquette. Excuse me. She brought Wi-Fi to Surrey County. So I think you need to get some goddamn respect in your town. She's the queen of the dubious claim. Like, that's what this show is all about. Hypocritical people who, rather than looking inward, just like attack others because they are all like it's like crabs in a bucket, which is geographically appropriate.
27:58Now, I've been sticking up for Stacey. But, you know, here's where Stacey goes wrong. Like Stacey's always coming in here like, well, she never answers the question. Never. Whenever somebody brings something up, she never just answers it. She says things like, well, every time we have an interaction with each other, seem to come from a place of negativity and aggression. She's like, oh, Stacey, just stop it. She's like, well, you always want to fight. She goes, oh, really? If I want to fight, you know I know how to fight, Stacey. So don't do that. Oh, really? Last time you fought, you cried about a scar and were suing somebody for two.
28:31you were suing a Muppet for two years. So don't act like you're some big toughie who's always wanting to fight. Well, last time she was, it's just funny that she does reference it. Like, yeah, remember I got, I was, I held my own in that fight. Whereas last season, as you, as you alluded to, like when the fighting was brought up, she started to cry about how traumatic it was. And like, yeah, both things can be true, but it is funny how this season her vibe is more like, oh, I'm standing in it now. So Stacy is like, oh, I know you can fight. I know you can. I've seen it. I've seen it. Kara's like, don't do that.
29:04You don't do that. You know that. And then Angel's like, well, she's not a negative person at all, okay? She's not. And Tia's like, she doesn't strike me as negative at all. Just stupid and American, as most of you are. She doesn't strike me as negative, maybe financially, but bank account-wise. She just seems like she carries the trauma of having to have worn a polo shirt at one point for a boyfriend's company. I just get that vibe about her. I get polyester. Polyester, I'm sensing. So Angel, she jumps in and goes, I'm standing up for my friend of 20 years. And as we all know, since she brought me onto the show, this will be the end of our friendship.
29:48So we're in our kind of victory lap before I turn on her, which will happen before the end of this episode. Thank you so much. Yeah, 100%. But also, she's like, she's not a negative person. She's the one who is just saying, I can get in a fight.
30:04whatever i'm like debating is that negative i don't know i'm playing with the phone case okay christina edit back in now i'm just making stupid points while i'm like wow this phone case is actually too big i waited for a month for this thing don't be now who's negative so stacy says she's like well i don't understand why this group of women has suddenly turned against me Why, frankly, I am being unjustly beat down. And this is why I love Stacey. Like, I just love how she just has this, why me? What could I have possibly done? It's like, you lied on the reunion. I say this as a Stacey fan, but you lied.
30:43About what? You blatantly lied. About what? And everything about like TJ. I mean, she was clearly paying TJ. She really was. You think she paid TJ to do this show? You think she had like a contract and she paid TJ to do this show? Oh, no, no, I'm sorry. It's not about, I'm sorry. I really, I actually kind of like just blurted it out. I meant more like it was fake. That relationship was fake for TV. I don't know that, I don't think there was a contract and all that. I think what TJ, I think they're both liars. I think TJ, TJ is making this, but I'm saying, I don't know why I said that she paid.
31:12I meant more like it was blatantly a fake, fake relationship for TV. And I think that now, like, I don't think she got divorced from her husband. And I think that they are like, I don't know. I do think that she's full of bullshit. Like everything she says is very slippery. in a way that I love, by the way. I love it. Like, this is my favorite type of housewife. Yeah, I just, I don't think, I don't think she's done anything to the other women, really. I think all that stuff is kind of innocent, especially when they're all faking stuff. Ashley, Giselle, they've all faked stuff. So I just don't, I don't know.
31:46She hasn't done anything mean to the women. I think she's been fine to all the women and they're just coming for her. I don't think it's cool to come for her. I'll say, I don't care if she lied. Who do you think they should come for right now? You could say that by any of them. that they should just have a natural like wait till something's natural i mean don't come back being like oh i'm gonna get the girl for faking a relationship when you've been faking shit for years giselle and ashley i still live in the trauma of um season eight and uh i'm okay with them coming from stacy because i have i i will never forget that that awful awful season that like nearly tanked Potomac.
32:25Like that actually tainted Potomac for a moment. Like Potomac was considered an elite housewives up there with Salt Lake City and Miami. And that tainted it, brought it down. But I think Potomac is like, is pretty much like back up there, but it's like, it's still a little tainted, a little tainted. Yeah. But then it started getting better when she came on in season nine. Right. Yeah. Yeah. So I'm saying like, I don't want to see them sitting around because I'm afraid that they might not be able to pull it off. Yeah. I don't know if they could do the pull off the sitting around vibe. I guess I just I guess I just wish there was stuff going on where they didn't have to make up stupid insipid things to come after each other for.
32:59But I guess, you know, maybe I need a different show. So like a different different genre, different network. You want to watch like PBS or. Yeah, basically, I'm team Stacy. I don't think she did anything. I don't mind when they come for somebody who did something wrong, but I don't think she's done anything. So I say leave her alone. So Giselle's like, well, I want to talk to Cookie. So we go talk to Cookie. She of the best nails on Bravo. I love Cookie's nails. So she goes to talk to Cookie and they're talking about Karen and they're going to get together to do something for Karen for her birthday.
33:36And then back on the couch, Wendy is saying, OK, well, Kiona still can't start a fight to save a life. So, Tia, tell me about you. And she's like, OK, well, I'm royalty. My grandfather was a prince in Nigeria. And Kieran is like, oh, my God, Wendy's Nigerian. Oh, are you a Nigerian as well? Oh, hello. Always nice to meet a peasant. You've paid your taxes, eh? So they do a high five. And then Stacey goes, okay, well, I know you guys don't want to hear this, but I'm Nigerian too. Just look at Stacey like, okay, Stacey. I was so excited. Benji tells us, I was so excited when my mom told me about my Nigerian heritage and Wendy's Nigerian.
34:24And now I find out that Tia's Nigerian as well. I think I may have found my sisters. They're like, Wendy just goes, child, no comment. That has historically not worked out all that well on this show. NECA versus Wendy. I don't know. I don't know that I'd be trying to make an inroad with that one. So Ashley's like, hold on. By the way, Wendy is nice to Tia because Tia is royalty and clearly does no interest whatsoever in befriending Wendy. It's like when the people are like, like trying to get in with Wendy because they like know her from something. She's like, I don't know you like Angel and of course NECA.
35:04But Tia's like, yes, I'm Nigerian and I'm from Ohio Station in life. So lovely to see you. It's so amazing that I can be so much better than you in two countries. But you raised with Rolls Royces also. No? Oh, that's terrible. When we have insurance claims, they're real. Okay, everybody. Sorry to interrupt you, but there's a special performance. It's an Ashley party, so there will be some vagina flapping. Let's bring out a stripper to this extremely classy party. I'm sorry, a burlesque. A burlesque performer. Well, actually, I don't know if this is burlesque, because she kind of acts like she's going to do burlesque, but then she does like drag queen stripper slaps on the floor, like with her, with her poo poo, you know, slap twirl ask.
35:53I didn't really know what this was. It didn't seem to match the party at all. And I just thought it was funny that they're in this like suburban event space with a staircase and this like burlesque person comes out and like does a strip tease takes off almost all their clothes and everyone's like, woo. And it like makes no, it doesn't have anything to do with the bloom, a first bloom, a second bloom or any bloom. And it's just there. It's just, it's just, a person taking off their clothes and everyone's grossed out except of course ashley he's like and everybody's like disgusting guy and stacy's like what happened to her clothes is she nigerian too another sister
36:35uh and uh so she's dancing around and when he's like oh i see puss i see puss so none of them really approve of this uh but whatever karen is like wow she's definitely in bloom so now let's go to the gym with angel angel's trying to decide whether or not she should get bbls because now that she's on the back on the east coast she sees bbls galore and her trainer's like yeah no no yeah it's sort of funny to think of like the uh the holistic lady who's gonna have sound baths but she's also going to get a BBL. It's funny to think about, but it's not inconceivable. We've seen that in Los Angeles. It's just a very funny thing.
37:17It's like the natural and the unnatural come together in one beautiful yin yang twin. So then, then Kierna is at her, at her place and she's doing a, leading a meeting and she's gonna be doing a billboard, which is exciting. And then Wendy's talking to her, this dog, I have to say, this dog was really a real ham. okay we're having a really strong week of like big personality dogs because the dog psychic on orange county really was an amazing scene like i really i keep on looking at the picture of cruz sitting on that sofa staring at the dog psychic just like waiting to be red like that's like one of my favorite images i've seen in a while and so now we have this dog which is this dog was basically i have to imagine ronnie it was you and me as like kids when like there's a dinner party, right?
38:08You know, when there's a dinner party and like you slink out and like you do like a performance for the adults. And that's what this dog was doing when Wendy came down the stairs. And you're behaving and I'm biting your face and running in circles around you. Yeah, makes sense. This dog was no, but this dog was like rolling around. It was definitely trying to get some screen time and it succeeded. Yeah. And Zoe, well, no, that Zen went the third and she's a handful. She said she's completely destroyed Zoe's life. It just cuts to the dog like biting Zoe's face trying to play and Zoe's like, leave me alone.
38:44Leave me alone. Commercials. Here comes one right now.
38:55So then we get clips of the dog poop party where the dogs were pooping every place and guess who's here? It's Stacy. and Wendy's like I wore a womper just for you she goes oh so many memories of you saying not a romper that was so fun literally no memories of that and Stacey says despite what happened at the reunion I actually really like Wendy because the producer said I should so we see that they were like you know like when Wendy was the one who broke the news about TJ and how Stacey was like no like you're a liar so they had some friction then but everything's okay now and she says i do care about wendy and i want to make sure i'm honest and up with her at least there's one level-headed person in this group and she's my sister so they go sit on the back porch and neither one of them knows how to open a bottle of champagne which is well it's not only that it's like stacy's saying normally i know how to open it but it doesn't have all this foil on it so i'm just gonna put it down i'm like this is i'm just gonna i'm out i'm gonna say something wild here it's a little out of the box i don't i'm gonna do a hot take i know people are like man always says like you know he's always so nice i'm gonna say something wild take the foil off and then see if you can pop the cork and see if that makes a difference because i don't know i kind of think that's gonna i think that's gonna be like the game changers taking the foil off right yeah um this was weird and when he's like i don't know how to do it with Eddie.
40:27Eddie does that. Okay. When did we get to the point where we think it's like fun? It's like a funny personality quirk to not know how to open a fucking bottle. Come on. Yeah. So she's like, we are women in 2025. We can't do this. We can't do this. Let's just drink water. So they have some water. Wendy clearly still does not like her. She's just looking at her like, why are you on my tiny deck? Why? Well, I wanted to talk to you about that. You know, Ashley invited me to go shopping. And within a minute of arriving, she was screaming at me, telling me that she'd seen receipts. She was holding a baseball bat, threatening to beat me.
41:11She held a box cutter to my throat. I was like, uh. I don't know that this is really an accurate description of what went down, Stacey. She was screaming at me. She just wouldn't stop screaming. And then it cuts to Ashley being like, I was at the Easter luncheon and there was not screaming. And when he's like, when he asks, are there receipts? And Stacey goes, I mean, I don't even know what to say to that. Because I can't, I can't defend myself against things that I don't even know what they're talking about. And it's very revealing of who she is, which is, I love this dodge that Stacey keeps on doing.
41:47Because she's not saying like, yes, there are receipts or no, there are receipts. It's like basically Wendy's like, can you pull up documentation that you got divorced? And Stacey's acting like you can't pull up documentation about like something that makes no sense. It's like, no, she's saying because she's saying that Ashley said at the store that she saw legal documents proving that TJ is a plaintiff against her. And she's like, she's saying she has receipts. And Wendy says, but are there receipts? And she's like, but I don't know. I can't defend myself if I don't even know what you're talking about.
42:26Meaning like, I don't know what receipt she means. If she doesn't show me the receipts, I can't say whether or not there's receipts. But it is still a Stacey Dodge. Yeah, that's what I was saying. Like, she just never answers a question. Like, are there receipts? How do I know if there's receipts if I don't know what you're talking about? You have to tell me what store it's from first. So then there's like the wind chimes make noise. And she goes, you see that? That was the spirit. you see the spirit oh a lot has happened since then she gets really freaked out by the wind chime it's a very callback to me being like is that your mama remember when they saw the crow that's right so um we see uh the wedding ring that stacy's wearing and wendy's like wait a minute are you engaged and she's like i'm back with my husband and wendy's just like oh jesus she's just giving her this look like oh hell no she looks away like i can't even look at this so wendy's like yeah you know if she's gonna be anything be serious like stacy what is this i have so many questions but we're working on a relationship so i'm not gonna say too much i mean but what what what is this and she's like what what's wrong she goes look i'm for team marriage but this is a complete 180 i mean it seems like conveniently now that the girls are to you now we're getting back together we're not getting married next week we're trying to work this out there are a lot of things that are being said about me that are lies giselle said that i had something called happy stacy and we see reunion where where giselle brought that out and she says i have a cannabis line that is coming out and you know the talks to be in this line They did not start until March of this year.
44:09And it's called Very Enthused Stacey. It says, oh, so Giselle was right. No, no, because I didn't have a cannabis line when we did the reunion. That was one of many meetings regarding brand partnerships that I had. There was one for a three and a half wick candle. There was one for really just that, just a three and a half wick candle. and you know getting in this business had nothing to do with you or eddie although i did hire someone named smetty to be my spokesperson but that's totally unrelated someone approached me and wanted to have a cannabis line called eddie is happy with stacy and so what are you gonna do and she's like well wait you went into business before you came into the whoop and so wendy says a few months before the reunion eddie and her were told that stacy was going around the cannabis community saying that she wanted to start a cannabis line like happy eddie and um so then giselle sees somebody at the bloom party we see a flashback and giselle's like uh hi and terrence says you remember me i'm the guy stacy approached people on potomac are so messy these extras will just show up anywhere and be like hi i'm the messy extra want a scene yeah and giselle's like oh you are the one that said to her why would i want to partner with you who are you?
45:31He's like, yeah. Um, I will say this. I don't think it's like a crime against humanity to be like, Ooh, I would love to get into cannabis. I like, I like the way Eddie's doing it. Like the happy Eddie. That's great. Like I would love to do something like that. I don't think that's wrong to be inspired by other people's businesses. If someone said, Oh, I want to start a podcast. Like I want like to do something like, like watch what crap ends. I'd be like, okay, cool. I'm going to be like, well, as far as I can tell, um, we were doing it first so you're like a bit of a copycat like no like you know people are allowed to be inspired by other people's businesses and things that they do it's allowed it's okay yeah but stacy should have just said at the reunion when she said you're gonna have a happy eddie she should say well someone approached me about doing a cannabis line and i don't know i'm talking to him about it instead of being like what that is absolutely not true today but it will be tomorrow when i when i sign the contract.
46:27A hundred percent. She should have. She should have. Why does it keep happening to Wendy? I mean, Wendy doesn't have a string of successful businesses to copy. Like I understand why it happens on something like New York with Bethany. Remember when Bethany had her very successful alcohol line that she sold for zillions of dollars. And then Sonia wanted one that was kind of like that. And that became a big deal on that. But at least you're stealing something that's already successful. I mean, Karen was trying to steal the candles. That wasn't some successful thing and now she's got stacy trying to sell her steel her weed why why is everybody trying to steal ideas from wendy because wendy's ideas are inherently unoriginal and so it's like it's it's like being like why is everyone stealing all the clip art that wendy's using it's because it's clip art everyone has access to the old timey finger pointing you know it's like like oh going like you're you're going into candles or cannabis like these are things that people are like you're you know what I should do?
47:25I should go into candles or cannabis. It's like not crazy. It's, you know, when you watch like Shark Tank, there's so many, like, this is a new dog food. That's absolutely natural. It's like, yeah, like a lot of people came up with that idea and continue to come up with it. It's like kind of an me, I don't, cannabis I think is harder, but I think like coming up with a candle is like, I don't know the cannabis is harder. I mean, Happy Eddie's a collab. It's not like they have their own weed farm and they're, you know, they're partnered with a successful weed company and slapping their name on it like you know most most reality tv products crying out loud but like i also think that i don't i just don't know in terms of like is cannabis like highly regulated um highly prized and highly regulated uh in a way that like maybe candle making is not like it might be a little easier to slap your name onto some sort of candle collab i i don't know but i i just think the reason why wendy people are quote-unquote stealing from Wendy is that she doesn't have any high concepts ideas.
48:23They're just basic things that just sort of float through that you might see on shark tank or something like that. And Oh my God. What if we turn on TV and next time we watch CNN, Stacy's one of the commentators. Now that's, that would be good. Making political commentary. That would be pretty good. I'm just here to talk about the Middle East. Why is everybody so mean to each other? I don't understand how it has to be this way. So when Yahoo just said I had bad breath, that's not very nice. Wow. It's really becoming an international issue, huh? So Wendy is saying, I just want to say I wish you nothing but success.
49:13And she's like, well, I have to go to the bathroom. Well, what do you, what do you go? Well, you go in the bathroom. Are you pregnant? which is like such a that's such a leap that wendy like wendy just inserting that in there out of nowhere like i think i think people are allowed to go to the bathroom without an insinuation that they're pregnant yeah but the whole thing about stacy is that she's got this breath that is probably from starvation let's face it it's probably from like fasting or just eating meat or something you know like a meat only diet or something you know we've all had we've all had those moments so uh wendy's probably like you're gonna go shit your brains out from I think that's why Wendy is like, why are you going to the bathroom now?
49:54You know, I think she's, everything Stacey does is looked at as sketchy by these women. And I think she's like, oh, really? So now you're going to go have water poop? Okay. Go enjoy the water poop. She's like, well, I have to use the facilities. Now you're starting rumors. Well, I know she ain't bringing TJ around for her just to check, just to get back with a man. Oh, my God. So now we go to Tia's house. We have our first Tia home scene and her daughters are arguing about how to make a charcuterie board. So like already off to a great start. Like we've got some rich kids who this is like their concern.
50:29It's not like past the Nintendo controller. It's like, no, the prosciutto goes on the left. This is how to raise your children right here. This is how to do it. They need, they cannot leave this house until they understand how to make a charcuterie board. That's it. Yeah. Oh, you did a very good job. Thank you, guys. This is better than what I would do. Just kidding. Princess knows how to make a charcuterie board. Hopefully you washed your hands. So Giselle comes over and meets the kids. And she's like, oh, you're twins. I know. You know I have some twins. And both of them are like, we don't care.
51:12So Tia's like, I've got loads of kids. So Sienna's the oldest Lexus is my gangster Nathaniel and Armouress are the twins I met Giselle socially I handed her my coat Isn't that funny? And she said Ooh, don't put that on my arms They're tired from dealing with twins I said, ooh, you understand about twins Well, I'm sorry about your mattress She goes, no, I actually gave birth to them I said, ooh Well, I guess you survived that We can sort of be friends so she introduces her to rob and um rob's kind of hot no yeah rob's pretty cute by the way two very new two very hot new husbands on this show right now you gotta really credit these guys yeah so the kids are in her and i like that tia's like okay kids you shot with me but um i think we're going to have some a chalcula i know you're in a hurry to leave kids aren't you And Giselle's like, where are you going?
52:12She's like, to the mall. She goes, oh, really? What are we doing? We're Ubering, Ubering to the mall. And she's like, no, their father's driving them. She has a chauffeur. Literally, he's the chauffeur. I married him just so I could get a discount on the rides, but literally just a chauffeur. Rob and I, we've been married for 17 years. He grew up in Southside, Chicago, wherever that is. And I grew up with the cook. We had a steward. He had a driver. We had a driver and even now, years on, we've been a good balance for each other. I'm incredibly wealthy and he does things for me. So my lifestyle hasn't changed.
52:47He just works a little bit harder. So she says that he is from Southside, Chicago, and she's rich. And she's like, can't we somehow be a good balance for each other? I have bags and he balanced them on his wrist.
53:07so she says her dog thinks he's human and um the kid is like yeah um my mom just got that dog because she was on sale she's like what uh and she's like i mean i don't really even like her that much but she's okay no one likes this discount dog that's there so tia walks in like oh have you found the cheap dog well tia you've outdone yourself uh have i that was a rhetorical question. Of course I have. I'm a princess. So, she says her name is Tunukab, which is her Yoruba name. Do you want to know what it means? It means pampered from my mother's womb. Pampered from your mother's womb. I see. How was Bowen Lagos, Nigeria?
53:55I was raised in England. The Nigerian culture and the English culture are very similar in that they're both much more sophisticated than the Americans. England I love because of family. Nigeria is the best place to go to party. I just kind of do the circuit. So I've got this happy bounce at the moment, then every now and then I come to America and tell Rob to drive me somewhere. When I feel fulfilled from that, I go back to England. It's wonderful. So she's like, I don't do errands. I'm just used to having a driver, although I'm not about to be somebody's driver. Like I'm not going to get haggard because I have children.
54:28I'm not going to get driving wrinkles. Driving her girls So your husband's the nanny Yes And I'm saying that without sarcasm I told you that Because I don't want him to ask for a raise In his allowance Growing up I was handed everything Oh could you hand me that cheese dear See And it's important To show my children that I can work And make a living I just choose not to Which is why I'm a real estate advisor. I walk in front of homes and I say things like I love the curb appeal. Let's show a clip of me doing just that, shall we? The clip comes on and she's like, I love the curb appeal. You know, us English like to sit up high now, so I love how this is a high house.
55:19But that being said, no one in the UK would ever live in a trash dump like this Potomac domicile. Okay, anyway, enough work for me for today. Where's Rob with the car? So Tia says that she loves being a mom. She's like, I mean, you know, look at me loving being a mom. Okay, daughter, come down the staircase. What's wrong with your face? Smile. It wasn't like that's when I gave birth to you. Now get back to your charcuterie arranging lessons. I love to spend time with my children. I also like to spend time without my children. So Giselle asks what her husband does, and he's in sales and acquisitions for a massive aeronautical company.
56:02And Giselle's like, that's impressive. He's a nerd. Yes, he's a nerd, actually. A commercial driving license. You never know when you're going to need it. Sales and acquisitions for a major company. I'm looking forward to that embezzlement storyline in about two and a half to three years. So buckling up. Aeronautical embezzlement. Yep. Uh, so, uh, Giselle loves nerds and, um, they're going to introduce him to Wendy's husband. Also a huge nerd, apparently. Um, how is her husband a nerd? What did Wendy, Wendy's husband's a lawyer, right? Yeah. I mean, he's, he's like, he's smart. So therefore that counts as being a nerd in Giselle's eyes.
56:49I also, I feel like being in sales and acquisitions for an aeronautical company does not make you a nerd. I think it's like designing the aeronautical stuff. If you're an engineer, that makes you a nerd. But you're basically just like a corporate person selling things. Like, Giselle just heard aeronautical. It was like, ooh, a nerd. No. He goes to space. That's astronaut. What does Earth look like from the moon? That's him. So Giselle says, we'll introduce him to Wendy's husband. And Tia says, this is not the painful husband. This is the real husband. What does that mean? I think maybe it's a reference to Stacy and TJ.
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