#3069 RHOC S19E18 Part Two: Behind the Candelabra

0:20Hi everyone, welcome back. This is part 2 of a two-part recap. If you're wondering where part 1 was, well go check in the feed and be sure to subscribe. so that way you always get your episodes but enough of that let's get right back into the episode and also thanks for saying gretchen instead of gretchers gretchers my bad gretchers gina given that you forgave katie at the hot pot how hurtful was it hearing from kiki monique that katie told her that she perceived you to be making racist comments while emily was putting eggs in her purse and trying to be hilarious while dissing an entire country's food choices um well i would like to address this obviously you can understand how that sounds horrifying to me like with that sad now me watching back and seeing like that whatever i said which was totally not meant to be malicious in any way shape or form but seeing that that triggered a trauma in you from your past like i'm not in the business of triggering trauma i'm in the business like i'm I'm not here to trigger trauma.

1:23Who triggered trauma? I'm in the business of selling one bedrooms to 75 year olds. Okay. I love when she kept saying trigger trauma. I was cracking up. I'm not here to trigger trauma. Okay. And if that's what I did in that moment, then like, I understand that. And I'm sorry for that. No, it's not triggering a trauma. What you said was racially fucked up. Who says that to somebody? And she did wear Asian designers. And I don't know why anybody's listening to Gina. You know, like Gina would know where any designer is from besides TJ Maxx. I think that, no, Gina, I have to say, I do appreciate because Gina has been doing a really good job of celebrating Asian designers, too.

2:01Because she's Shein, right? Is that the brand that she's been wearing a lot? I really support 10-year-olds being forced into labor to glue clothes together. So I'm really there. I'm on the forefront. Well, I appreciate that. It didn't trigger a trauma. It just seemed inappropriate to say at the time. and I never called you the R word. And I said - Well, you should because I'm not, you know, like that wouldn't be a very nice thing to say. You shouldn't say that about disabled people. No, the other R word. Which one? Sorry. No, no, you can't say that, Gina. Well, isn't that what you said? You can say real estate.

2:36That's what you said. I was calling you - No, no, no. I said I wasn't calling you the R word. Oh, okay. I don't know what that is, but thank you. You know, I just said it had undertones that made it feel R. She's like, oh, Republican? Don't say that. I can get canceled for that.

2:53Rotund? No, we're not going to fat shame. Rizzoli and Isles? I love that show. You can call me in the hardwood.

3:05Rotini? Yeah, I love that. Okay. Yeah, you can call me that. I accept that. And like, I really wish instead of sitting down with Kiki Monique, you would have sat down with me. Yeah. And she's like, um, yeah, but to your point, why would she sit down with you? You were having a fight with her at the time and you were making shitty comments behind her back. Why does she need to sit down with you about it? Saying something later. Why, why aren't you sitting down with all the people you, you sit and giggle their screenshots of gossip with, with Emily? Why aren't you the one about, you know, shut up, Gina.

3:35Yeah. Why aren't you a pop? Like why all this talk about, like, I wish you would have come and talked, you know, cause just said it to my face basically when she's like you said, just doing all this stuff behind people's backs. So Katie is like, yeah, but to your point, we were trying to do better. And I told her, I said, you said, you know, I don't think Jean is a bad person, but these times made me feel that way. And her and I were bonding over being people of color in this space because it's predominantly not people of color, right? And to be the first Asian on Orange County in 18 years means a lot to me.

4:02That's my subtle way of saying, thank you for all you white ladies for running off the one piece of diversity that comes across the stage in years and years and years. Okay, but my intention was not to trigger trauma. And like, you know, even if I trigger trauma, like I didn't mean to run you off because of your race. Like I meant to run you off because of your personality. So like I hope that that suffices. And she's like, thank you. Thank you, Katie. Okay, does anyone else want to apologize to Katie? And everyone's just silent. And so Katie's like, well, I mean, if you guys need any ideas, I think being called as evil as Alexis could get an apology.

4:40And Shannon's like, well, I was I was going to say earlier, but when Bravo came to me, when Bravo Social came to me and said, is there anything that you regret from this season? And I said, I was so hurt by the thought that you would betray me that I wasn't happy with what I said after you betrayed me. So, you know, what came first, the chicken or the egg? I don't know. Either way, I will have both for breakfast tomorrow. Thank you. So Andy said, Andy's like, Katie, is there a place to move forward with some of the people in this group? I hope so. All right. Well, I do too. Okay. And so then Gina's like, oh my God, this is like the stupidest thing I've ever worn.

5:18I swear. I'm like, guess what? I'm going to say no, it's not the stupidest because we've seen a lot of things on you, Gina. We've seen a lot of looks. But it's not great. You're correct. You're correct. It's not great. Every time I look at you, I'm like, she has to be uncomfortable. It's like the stupidest choice I've ever made. I am sweaty. Is no one hot in here? Is no one menopausal? Whoa. Whoa. Double Alfredo. That was a good one. Write that one down. It's going into one woman show. You're the one who's always freezing. What's going on here? Okay, so whatever. So now we go to Gretchen. Dun, dun, dun.

6:03So she's in her trailer, and she's not allowing Slade to come. and she's saying he's going to be supportive at home. And then back on the couches, Shannon is like, oh my God, I hate this. There's a side view of my tree trunk over here. So back to Gretchen, she's like, I'm excited about clearing up all that BS that Katie has spent. And the glam is like, what's she saying? Yeah, she's saying that I told her that Tamara drugged me, which is not true. I never said that. I did say it. I never said it. maybe i did when i didn't but that happened but it didn't happen everybody needs to understand not understand it because i'm telling the truth not it's opposite day in 19 seasons of orange county we've seen many real housewives kids grow up before our eyes even if their mom somehow never age a day and while this group doesn't always agree on everything They all share one characteristic in common.

7:05Everyone here is a loving and devoted mom. Watch. Go ahead. Sorry. I just, no, I'm just, Orange County kids are really special. We've had 19 years of watching these kids grow up, different kids grew up. And like, actually this current batch is doing pretty well, I would say overall. But I have to say the Orange County track record has been pretty rough. It's been bad. Pretty rough when it comes to the trajectories. It hasn't been great. Yeah. and basically guys I'm going to pretend this is a segment about everybody's kids but I'm really going to give about five minutes for Emily to come up with self diagnoses for her son Emily let's do this excuse me how could you not even include any content about Nicky he works for the Altman group this is a disgrace he's 19 and a realtor if you ever exclude my children again from the children growing up Well, montage, it will cost you a lot.

8:03Oh, I'm sorry. Sirens are coming. I shouldn't have mentioned Orange County Children. Okay. Sorry, that was my bad. Emily, did Dawson pass out again? Emily, go ahead. So she's like, oh, my God, everything with Luke is so crazy. And then I was getting all these emails from people on DMs. And they were like, oh, okay, I'll post that thing about Katie later. Oh, sorry, that was wrong, DM. I was getting things from DMs and these moms were like, have you tested him for pandas? Wait a minute, that's amazing, I love pandas Can a panda ever sit still? That's my question Oh my god Pandas are so cute, I watch so many panda videos, is this serious?

8:45Are you sure? Because like the other day I saw a panda and was like trying to get into a tie and then like fell over, it was so cute Oh sorry, that was my person applauding you gina yeah he's got something called pandas because he had strap throw and this strap throw went to his brain and now i'm gonna get lasers on his brain the brain's gonna be shrunk by the lasers this is actually crazy this actually is crazy i looked up pandas after because i was like what like some of this i never know what to believe on housewives you know i really never do and especially when it comes to emily because you know emily has a lot of anti-vax you know maga stuff in her history so i'm like well is this coming from a medical dot like Like, what is this?

9:25What is this? And it's pretty crazy what it is. I didn't find anything that said laser on the brain was a treatment for it, honestly. And I'm not even criticizing it because I don't know. I'm just saying I didn't find that in my amateur research into it. But this is nuts. So she's going to take her kid in and basically it caused brain swelling on him, which is causing all these bizarre behaviors. And the lasers are supposed to shrink your brain a little bit. Yeah. I, I don't, I don't know. I don't understand any of that, but like, it's crazy. I mean, strep throat is like very scary because like you can have strep throat and then a month later it like rears its ugly head again in some terrible other form.

10:06Um, but I never heard about this and I don't doubt it at all. I know it's a real thing cause I, I did, I did look it up as well, but like, that is a scary, that must be really, really scary. And I, I actually do think it was one of the upsides of her. we criticized a lot that she was using this as a storyline, but this is one of the upsides is that a lot of moms reached out to her and were like, you should check this out. Because if that really is one of the causes of some of his unexpected behavior, it's good to get a grasp on that. But this is really wild. So yeah, I guess we'll see how that pans out.

10:40We'll see how that pans out. All right. Pandas out. Yeah. Alfredo. Insensitive. uh so yeah so then um we talk about dawson graduating at his boot camp ceremony and she's like well you know um you know so many people worried about dawson and i also got messages which is crazy i did get a lot of messages of pandas though which was very weird so i'm not sure if that's the same thing but i just want to reiterate pandas are great you know and two plus two pandas. Who loves six pandas? Me. I do. Okay, things are still not adding up. Just tell us about Dawson. He's kind of hot. Okay, well, Dawson faints a lot, so he was tired.

11:24Yeah. Well, you know, he was in boot camp in the last three days. It's called The Crucible. It's this crazy thing where they have to, like, stay up all night and perform the entire play of The Crucible, and I just, I just, I think it was just, like, a lot for him. Arthur Miller is very intense and he just passed out, and I couldn't understand that. But he did come back. Are you sure that's what The Crucible is? He did come back with the letter A tattooed on his chest, which I still don't really get. That's, I mean, that's the Scarlet letter, Jen. Oh, no, I'm sorry. What I meant to say was that he was going to be hanged, and then it turned out that he got to escape, but then it turned out it was all a dream.

12:03That's another piece of fiction from high school, too. Well, basically what happened to Andy is he was he was on his way to boot camp and the plane crashed and then all of his friends were stuck out there and they had to take care of themselves and then they started to turn on each other until one got a conch shell and the nerd lost his glasses and became a monster and killed everybody um i think that's lord of the flies no that's actually ryan he just loves getting into those flies am i right anyone um so tamra you mentioned that you and sydney saw each other she hates when you talk about her on television, talk about it.

12:41So she's like, She came to the house. She was going to let me sit here. So I went outside. And I said, you better hug me or I'm going to call the police on you. So she hugged me. And then she said, you better not talk about this on television. And I said, I promise you, I won't let me go. Let me go. And then she left. Sydney, Sydney, Sydney. Sydney, Sydney, Sydney.

13:11You know, Sydney is at home throwing remote controls at the TV. Like, leave me alone.

13:19Yeah, she's coming. She's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, kind of Simon. She's coming around again. Sandy's like, oh, good. That's great. Shannon, Stella still visiting every country in the northern hemisphere. Yes, she is. And she also let me know that she wants to go into hospitality. hospitality, I said, that's not a real career. And she said, you're not a real mother. I said, oh, don't you speak to me. I brought you into this world. I'll take you out of this world. And she said, try to reach me. I'm in Europe now. And I said, okay, well, that's fine. But you know, I am still your mother and I'm alone right now and I'm going through things.

13:51And she said, well, I'm never going to come back to America. So yeah, things are great. I'm really happy with her choices. Yeah. She's going into hospitality. So naturally she's not coming back to America where there are no restaurants or hotels. So, that's sad. Okay, Emily. Sam from Waterston's Daughter has Sam Waterston's face. Isn't that crazy? Wants to know, how is your relationship with Shane going? Oh, God. Who cares? But everyone wants to know. Burning in all of our minds. How's it going with Shane? Well, you know, everyone, you know, I got from a lot of places, that just like, Shane's just like solid and pragmatic and he's just unemotional about things and it's just like really helpful.

14:33Yeah, and I loved your Wiveswap episode. Did you experience anything in your home with Shane? And are you doing more around the house? Does anyone care about this? Everyone agrees it was the worst Wiveswap episode of the season, right? Everyone? No? Well, the writing sure did, Andy, but I did learn that pigs make me more tolerable, so I might be shooting with one next season.

14:58well do you realize that shane does a lot yeah yeah you know what i think shane like that other wife too emily you better watch out another thing that was on the internet today was that wife from that episode the snotty new jersey wife and she was doing those one of those videos where you're putting on makeup and talking at the same time come get ready with me she's like get ready come Get ready with me. Yeah. So, you know, I went on wife swap and, you know, I'm kind of connected to the Gorga's because I was the lady that had that house. They remember when Joe Gorga said that he flipped that house, but then he used fake pictures.

15:34That was my house. And I had to go online and tell him to stop using my house. And then he did. So that's my drama. The New York, the New Jersey ladies. Do you remember that? Yeah, I do. I love Bravo. Well, kept this lady because, you know, they were going to add her to Jersey just to have that for a storyline and didn't keep her, but ended up just using her for wife swap instead. Yeah, exactly. It's time for a commercial. It's time for a Crappens commercial.

16:10So now we go to break and we come back. They're all predicting that Gretchen is going to wear pink because, like, of course, you know. and then emily's like oh tamra's wearing pink too isn't that funny that they match you guys were given a color scheme of pink maroon and stupid okay like there will be some overlap so gretchen comes out she's wearing um is that like a corset what do you call that kind of top it's almost i don't know i don't know but like the boning and uh it's like very much like it's like sexy boudoir bordello i forget what it's not that's not like is that a corset top is it a corset Is it a yeah, it's like kind of an ice skating type thing.

16:53Weird outfit as usual. So she comes and she's not booed. So I'm immediately annoyed and everybody just jumps on her and starts kissing her ass and telling her how beautiful she looks. Of course, they're doing it in their way, you know, which is like, wow, Gretchen, you look so great. Andy says you look like a pink Elsa and Tamra's like, I was thinking time. Oh, I love the way you dress. Yes, it's just so poor person, but also maybe you could be on your way to work at a child's birthday party. It's just so, maybe it's a costume. Maybe it's an outfit. Maybe she's born with it. Maybe it's a fashion crime.

17:30I don't know. You know, one of those. Gosh, you look great, Gretchen. You look great. Yeah. And by the way, I just want you to know that when I said she looked like she'd been preserved in formaldehyde, that's a compliment. Yeah, meaning you're beautiful, Gretchen. You're so beautiful. and you know what the more transphobic things you love the more beautiful you become you're beautiful yeah so i was kind of grossed and gretchen's like yeah i mean listen i could take it on the chin you know what i mean it's made out of titanium okay well what have you been doing since we last saw you besides begging me to be back you obviously have a beautiful daughter with slayed face and in terms of like work what have you been doing she's like well I do digital marketing and I'm considered an influencer and so that's my main source of income for me so use Gretchen code 20 to get a discount you practice this and you still can't get it out right code Gretchen 20 to get a discount on what discounts a discount on discounts what's that discount on song okay great so andy's like what is slade doing and she's like oh um he's a consultant and um he also sits on the liberate liberace foundation board so see we can't hate gay people he loves liberace and that's the gayest people there ever was right and liberace was famously very comfortable with homosexuality super loved it um and andy's like liberati the pianist no andy liberate liberati the house painter yes liberati the pianist and someone also posted today and thank you social media for giving me so much today but uh they posted that slate is listed as an unpaid board member he's a volunteer board member of this liberati foundation in vegas what does the Liberace Foundation actually do?

19:33It supports children in the arts. Like, it gives grants to kids in the arts. And I actually know because I went there. I saw Liberace's house with Jackie Siegel. And so I met those people. And let me tell you, that is an incredible... Nothing, really. I mean, I don't know what I'm going to say. Except I think that Slade hooked this up through friends of theirs, probably. If I had to guess. No, he literally said it. Gretchen literally says it. She's like... So, like, we are friends with Jonathan Warren, and he's, like, the consul to, like, Monaco, and he runs the foundation of Las Vegas, and so he has Slade to be on that board.

20:08Yeah. Who is saying Slade Smiley should be on the Liberace board? I'm unpaid and has volunteered. So he's doing nothing, is what you're saying. He's doing nothing. Wow, all right. Well, we had a bitter feud 16 years and counting, and Tamara and Gretcher reintroduced themselves to each other in hopes they could view each other in a better light. Unfortunately, Bravo won't spring for better lights, so everybody looks just as crazy. Okay. Let's check out some flashbacks. So we see some flashbacks of all of this stuff. And then we go, okay, Tamara. Boobs from RSQ wants to know how can you pretend that bringing Joe to La Rosa to two events wasn't an intentional dig at Gretchen?

20:58And she's like, well, it wasn't a dig at Gretchen. Joe is one of my friends who I like to bring around because she pieces off Gretchen. Gretchen's like, yeah, but I do think that it's interesting that out of all the people that she picked to bring, she brought Joe. But I mean, I guess I don't expect anything else. However, no, No, no, stop saying however at the end of the sentence. It doesn't work that way. I'm not here to serve you. I didn't say you were. So, Gretchen, how are you blaming Tamara for Slade not having a job for nearly two decades? She's like, if it came across that way, then I'm sorry.

21:33No, it didn't come across that way. It's what you said, Gretchen. Well, what I was trying to say is that like being on the public domain at such a level like that, it can cause harm to someone's life. No, you didn't say that. You said that everything Tamra did made it impossible for him to get work. That's what you said. Let me tell you something. He's like a white, straight Christian man. If he has a shred of competency, people are going to let him have another shot and give him jobs. His job is mooching off of Gretchen. That's what his job is. He can get a job, okay? he has like a lot of privilege and he like we've seen it before cancel culture only goes really so far it's not actually really a real thing people all everyone rebounds from cancel culture he is he's not canceled from tamra he is canceled from either laziness or his own ineptitude that's what i'm saying himself because he doesn't want to have money to have to pay that child support back and we all fucking know it so you can say whatever you want to but he's not making money on purpose and he's working, working, quote unquote, for you holding that camera so you guys don't have to pay the child support, which is also why you're not married to him so they can't start garnishing your ass.

22:50Okay? Gretcher's. And I like Tamara's response because she's like, oh yeah, but him getting arrested didn't affect him. Trying to get a jab hit. What did Slade get arrested for? Child support. Was it child support? He actually got arrested over that? I think. I'll look it up while you do the rest. What? Now see, everything that's out there that's why you can't get a job ronnie so tam he was arrested in 2009 on a civil contempt warning for failing to pay child support yeah oh okay so gretchen uh chase from salt lake city is crazy on a yacht sorry christina applegate wants to know how does slade what do you think of that whole thing everybody's like oh my god so for those of you who didn't see that christina Applegate came out with a tweet and was like, oh, how dare the ladies of Salt Lake City not respect the staff of this boat?

23:41That is disgusting. And I've watched a lot of this in my life and people are like, oh, my God, Queen, I'm gone. I was kind of like, come on, Karen. This is Salt Lake City ladies on Below Deck. They're doing their job. Let them work. Please back away. I don't need your morals here, Christina Applegate. You know who doesn't respect the hard work of the staff on Below Deck is the staff of Below Deck. They're the ones who have like, well, Daisy, Daisy is trying her best, but meaning that like Daisy had to put up with Gary for like four years and everyone's had to deal with so much bullshit just internally with all the fucked up power structures there that like the Salt Lake, the women on Salt Lake are the least of anyone's concerns on that.

24:19Yeah. Call the police. You complaining about what kind of Bravo fan compains that the Salt Lake City ladies are too crazy on Below Deck. Oh, no. this is this, this is like literally a gift to blow deck. Cause there's so many real housewives watchers who like refuse to watch below deck. And this is Bravo's way of being like, you should watch this other franchise that we have this other blockbuster franchise. That's really good. So this, if anything, she should be appreciative of this great exposure that the brand is getting. Yeah. And if anybody needs to be criticized, it's the staff for trying to interrupt fights to do stupid things like serve a stupid monster head cake, put it down on the table and walk away.

24:58Like now is not the time for you to come have your captain sitting down scene. OK, you either sit here and take the fight or you walk away, which you did. But you don't get both choices. OK, you're either in it or you're not in it. But this is not about you. This is about the Salt Lake City Housewives. And they came to work and give us the best season of any show this year. So quiet, Applegate. Quiet, Applegate. Still love you, but quiet. Yeah, love you in general. But on this one, you're wrong on this one. Take that out. yeah yeah exactly take they take the l so um and he's like how does slade contribute to the household um well what you guys didn't see on camera is i said when slade goes to the grocery store it goes to his account so like he can buy like mac and cheese and that's like really helpful for both of us uh-huh so if slade doesn't have a job or make any money what's in his account nothing you have a joint account that's all your money so if he goes to the store he pays for it with your account.

25:55And if you go to the store, you pay for it with your account. Stop trying to be slippery, Gretchen. You're not smart. Whatever your relationship is with Slade, it's absolutely your business. Oh, sure. And the only reason it was even a conversation is because we were talking about getting married and you said you couldn't marry him because of financial reasons. And I said, that's hilarious. You don't even have three pennies to your name between both of you, so why even bother with that? That was never going to be on the table. I don't think we meant to say, who is buying the groceries? I think we meant to say, you get groceries?

26:34How do either of you afford groceries? But that's neither here nor there. My question to you was more like, what is your favorite product? Canned salmon or canned okra? I just am so curious about this whole canning revolution.

26:55This is a little one. This is a little one. Someone check out Alfredo. I think he fell over. And here we go. Another problem with this is that Heather's referencing a conversation they had in 2012, right? So we see a flashback to that where Gretchen's like, Well, Sweeney is trying to get caught up on death and trying to get the things resolved with in court. Child support. it. And she's like, okay, so you don't want to take that on in marriage. And she goes, yeah, I don't want to take it on. So that was when Gretchen had a moment of honesty 13 years ago and decided not to ever have another one after.

27:28So we come back to the present. Which is by the way, also a little shitty. If you really think about it, like initially I remember thinking like, well, I get that. Like he has to get a shit in order before I like get married. But I also kind of feel like if you love someone, you're like, we're going to get through this together, right? Like I'm going to help you get through this. That way we can start our life together, not like, OK, you figure out your shit and then then you can finally get married to me. If that was a decent person there and they said, look, you have a contentious breakup with your ex.

27:55You've got a child. This child has cancer. You have not paid one hundred and fifty thousand dollars in child support to a cancer ridden child. I'm going to help you pay this because I'm going to be part of your family now and we're going to take care of this and take care of this child who deserves your money at the very least. If he's not going to have your love or anything else, he's gonna get your money and we're gonna take care of this they don't say i'm not gonna marry you because i don't want to be responsible for that mistake you made with that cancer kid she's a wretched fucking human being thank you eddie she is disgusting so there are so many reasons to hate this lady i cannot believe they're sitting here acting like oh sorry we asked you about it, Gretcher.

28:38Sorry.

28:41So, Heather's like, okay, then you got engaged, and that's why we thought this was all fake. Yeah, and not one of us ever said that your relationship was fake, bitch. No, it was about their proposal based on what you told me on camera. And then we see that proposal, that crazy thing, where she's like, will you get married to me? She's like, look. However, that was a very real moment for me to be there, even though the producers said that it was kind of a fake moment on a special that aired like six years ago. But getting engaged with a man that I loved after he said I'd just been in the hospital and was told he was going to die, I just wanted him to show the man how much I loved him, and that was what that was about.

29:18Okay, however. Really? Because I thought that it was because he wanted to get married on TV and have Bravo pay for your wedding. That's kind of how it seemed. Yeah. The boss of the show is like, yeah, no, that's not true, Gretchen. He's like, I know the inside scoop. Okay, you can't do this bullshit. And she's like, no. And Heather just starts cracking up because Andy's so shady. And he goes, he's like, okay, so when do you think you'll be ready to get married? When do you think you'll be ready to get married? She's like, well, I mean, I'm ready whenever. I just don't think it's something that we wake up every day talking about.

29:55We talk about Jesus and Christianity. And as we all know, getting married is not a really big deal part of that. They're going to get married whenever she's not going to be on the hook for that child support that they refuse to pay for the dead kid with cancer. That's when. So she's like, you have a child together. That's the biggest commitment of all. And look how well he dealt with the last one. And Gretchen's like, I know. Yeah, exactly. Tamara's like, but in God's eyes, don't you think you should be married? God loves married people. Everybody knows it. I'll send you to me. I can't wait to get back to you.

30:30She actually is married in God's eyes. Yeah, they had a ceremony. It's great. They had a full-on ceremony. I got this invited last second also. It's kind of weird how that keeps on happening, but it's a beautiful ceremony, I hear. Yeah, a few years ago, we actually got married, but with an ordained pastor. And he's like, wow, you did? You're married? She goes, yeah, but we didn't go to a courthouse and get paperwork, but we did have a ceremony, and Skylar was there, and it was so special. Hmm. Okay, well, Riley, from Not Candy Burris' Daughter, but secretly, yes, I am. It's me, it's me, says Gretchen.

31:04You've mentioned several times during Heather's sleepover how Fireball gets you wild. Were you looking for liquid cards to bring up the rumor? No, I had no intent of bringing up the fact that Tamara had sex with Nelson and tried to sing a song with him and then had sex again and then sang while she was having sex. I never meant to bring that up. Well, this person who was involved in the affair, whose name rhymes with Schmelzen, but we won't say out loud, um vehemently denies the allegation and insists that it was a complete fabrication i don't know vehemently

31:42strongly oh strongly what denies strongly denied the allegations that he was ever inside tamra okay look this was not premeditated okay it's not premeditated it was just girls being girls you You know, you take a bunch of people used to eating canned beans around a trash can of fire under freeway and you give them something called charcuterie. And just watch them go, Andy. They were drunk with the power.

32:13So, um, Tamar goes, bullshit. What is it? Bring the better to the Tamar. We know it when I, when I, when I talk. You just be quiet. You just shut up. Cameraman. Shut up. Help me out. Cameraman. Craft service. You shut up. through this. Come on, lighting guy. Shut your face. Shut your stupid mouth. This is Mr. Grip. You gotta help me on this one. All I can hear is waddle, waddle, waddle. It's crazy. Shut up. Someone's gotta help. Okay, well, I'm gonna talk. No, stupid. No. This is part of the process, girl. Oh, no, let me finish this. Girl. You know what? I was very proud of the fact that I was young and hip and said girl, and then you just It tore right back in my face.

32:58I did not appreciate that. I don't know why she has such a hard on for me. Gretchen's like, it's so weird. So Tamara's like, Gretchen tried to bring the song out of Vicky's house. That's when she tried to bring it out. But not that she called and said, oh, it's Eddie Gay. So she's saying that she's been trying to make this happen since 2017. And then we see a clip of Gretchen being with that gay in the terrible wig, who used to be Emily's friend. And remember when Tamara in the beginning, when Emily came on in the beginning and Tamara was being mean to Emily. And Emily took Tamara on that walk and she's like, why are you so mean to me?

33:34And Tamara's like, because you're friends with people who are terrible to me. Like that gay in a terrible wig. And we see a shot of that gay. He's like, I don't know. And so they were fighting over this gay. This has been a very messy gay on Orange County. Yeah, some of the messiest gays we've seen have come from Orange County. So Gretchen's like, what was the conversation at that party? And she was, oh, God. Okay, so years ago. Okay, okay. I want to move on. I want to move on. Okay, so Emily, this question is from you. Jonah from a whale somewhere said, why would you bring up the rumor to Tamara when Gretchen asked you not to?

34:11Oh, I've got a very clear answer that's going to make a lot of sense with a lot of logic. I was really irritated by the fact that they had just been at the beach and they had had a conversation that they were both going to come back and they came back to the table holding hands. And they had agreed to a truce. Yeah. And it's just like, you know, I was really hopeful and I was really, really hopeful. And that they were going to move forward. Like, so you destroyed it over like, let's brush that shit under the rug. Okay. Like, let, like, why did you facilitate it falling apart? Because you, you felt they were being fake.

34:41And this person who, who, you know, looks at headlines and laughs behind people's backs with Gina about it. Yeah. So she's like, oh, I was really hopeful they were moving forward. That's why I made sure they didn't move forward. Yeah and I didn't say one word about Christian Not one word in Jamaica Not even one Okay okay can I talk to that Okay I agree with them on that And I want to apologize for you doing that But I'm just telling you That that was what was that in the press And you know that's a problem Tamara Because you can say stuff that's in the press But if I say stuff in the press Everybody else is like an asshole Yeah oh okay You always turn it around Someone asked, are you a DJ?

35:23Because you're really turning things around on the turntable, because that's what DJs do. Yeah. Yeah. Well, Andy, or Tamara, sorry, Pee Wee from Big Adventure wants to know why are you overacting about this rumor when it was from so long ago? Don't you also bring up old dirt on people? She goes, oh yeah, name one. Name one free Pee Wee from Big Adventure whatever your stupid gay name is. Say it. Name it. Well, excuse me, but you did accuse Jen of having an affair. Two years ago. Whatever. I can't even say anything, girl. I can't even say anything. Shut up, Shannon. You stupid. Well, Tana, you did bring up tonight that Shannon recorded Vicky.

36:07Yeah, because she's going after Katie when she's doing the same thing. That's a hypocrite. I'm allowed to bring that up. But you know what my intent was? To make sure everyone's safe. Everyone is safe and sound on my camera. Well everybody once said Then why did you call me and tell me Who the hell would be with Vicky She treats her boyfriend like shit Why'd you say that then I did not say that to him I did not say that Yeah you did But you just gotta prove the point of this question Cause it was two years ago No I understand but the point of the question was You bring stuff up all the time from the past Yeah well And you just brought up two things right now Yeah well it's because It's because I have the right to you.

36:49Shut up. Everybody shut up. And there's a case in point. Case in point.

36:57Anyone. Case in point. I said, case in point, Alfredo. Get with you, bro. The moment's already lost. Lost. And well, Tamara, you told... Shani, shut up, damn it. No, but you said... Shut up, damn it. Shut up, Shani. No, Tamara, you said... Shani, shut up. Shut up, damn it. No, I'm going to shut up. I'm going to shut up. I'm not listening. It's worth so hard. You're never going to talk again, damn it. I can't even get it I can't even say it I'm trying to prove a point You did a very good job proving it Andy Well my point is We're not the only ones that bring up stuff from the past Well I have something to say on this Oh shut up Shannon Just shut your goddamn mouth You fucking monster from the blue lagoon Come back in there and kill Brooke Brooke Shields or whatever Get out of here monster I can't Sam or Grudge over there You know what don't let anybody else affect how you Continue to do that I know but like I'm sick of it I'm sick of it bitch When we were at your house for cake decorating Remember I love bringing up that night You threw out again that I've had all these affairs And then we went outside and you said Oh god I was mad and I just probably made it up Yes yes you said you poked me And I was mad remember you said that That was a good one girlfriend I did make it up.

38:15It was something I heard, though. But, you know, I should have never I regretted saying it, okay? Because the conversation we were having at the table was getting so heated. What else am I going to say? It's cheating on your husband, slut. I mean... It's pure hypocrisy. That's what this is, everyone. Pure hypocrisy. Shut it, shut it. Who do you think you are? Like, honestly, I don't have to listen to anything she says. Shut your goddamn fried chicken mouth. I can't even look at you without thinking of fried chicken. Be quiet, Shannon. Why is Tamara allowed to just do this every time Shannon speaks?

38:50Why is nobody like, hey, other people get to talk to you. And you don't get to just yell, shut the fuck up every time someone speaks. What kind of therapy are you going to? This is crazy. Is there anybody working here? She's at physical therapy. That's the problem. What do you mean? I thought that by loosening up my hips, I would get better emotional responses. I knew him. So Emily, that's my storyline. But didn't you have pictures at the cake party of her having some affair, of Gretchen having an affair? And Shannon's like, but see, Tamara, you show up with evidence every single time. That was me in the flashback, by the way.

39:24I did a great job in that flashback. Yeah, because at that point, I'd had it with her. I'd had it, I'd had it, I'd had it. See, it's okay for me to bring things up from the past. You just can't bring stuff up from the past. Yeah, basically, she's a hypocrite, just like the rest of you. So were these pictures, were these old pictures of Gretchen making out with that Jeff guy? Tamara. You got to love Tamara whipping out 15-year-old pictures at a cake party. So Tamara says she'd had it, so she's allowed to do it. And then Gretchen's like, yeah, but just because you were mad about something from 15 years ago, you shouldn't have even brought it up 15 years ago.

40:02Like, that wasn't cool either. And so Tamara's just shooing her off. She's like, get out of here, stupid. Just wave everybody off, Tamara. Oh, no, I'm just waiting. You are stupid. You shut up, Shannon. But I'm talking about 15 years ago, Tamara, when you made up all the lies about me back then. So now we're going back to the big, where it all started. This is where, well, actually it started with. Were you at Fast Lake? But now the big reunion. And Gretchen's like, what was the reason then? Why'd you bring things up then? And Tamara's like, well, I didn't make up any lies about you 15 years ago.

40:33Oh, sure you didn't. It was the affair. It was the affair. Okay, yeah, yeah. Hold on, I'm going to press my lips and lick myself a little bit. Me and Vicky both walked in at your junior kiosk, and we saw you sitting there on Bloop's lap, making out with him. We saw it. We saw it. Oh, my God, you're such a fucking liar, Camille. You're a fucking liar. You're a fucking liar. You're a liar. You are. You're a piece of shit. You're a piece of shit. You're a piece of shit, Dad. Okay, Tamara. You're a piece of shit, Dad. Yes, for so long. For so long, you've been coming after me. For so long. It's like, this was a whole segment about how you've been coming after her for 15 years.

41:13But of course, she immediately turns in. It was like, you've been coming after me this whole time. And you've been going after my husband. And you've been going after me. You've been going after my kids. My mom can't even fuck a guy from Costco without you coming for somebody. I don't talk about you, never. Okay, yeah, you don't talk about me ever. Sure, sure, sure. And it just ends on Katie going, this is insane.

41:47That brings us to the end of Reunion Part 1. Real Housewives of We'll be back Monday with some Potomac. We'll also have a trailer trash of Real Housewives of Beverly Hills, which we were blessed to get a trailer with this week. That'll be on Patreon. And we'll see you at 4 p.m. for Amazon Live Pacific Time, guys. Pacific Time on Monday. Have an amazing weekend, guys. We love you. Thank you so much. Thank you so much for being here. Thank you so much. Thank you. Great weekend. Thank you so much. Dawson fainted. Dawson fainted. Oh, no. Oh, jeez. Oh, God. Dawson. Dawson. Walk into the club. Everybody say my name.

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