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2 Dec 2025 · 56m

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#3094 Crappy Hour 12/01/25: Porsha Loves, Kandi Divorces, Mia Arrested

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  • Hosts: Ben Mandelker and Ronnie Karam
  • Description: This episode covers major Bravo news, including Kandi's divorce, Porsha's new relationship, and Mia's legal troubles.
  • Kandi and Todd have officially announced their split.
  • Key Points:
  • Kandi expressed emotional struggles, indicating the separation had been a long time coming.
  • The hosts discuss Todd's financial management, including failed restaurant ventures.
  • Todd's demands for primary custody and questioning the prenuptial agreement sparks outrage from the hosts, who view him as a user.

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0:20This episode of Crappy Hour is brought to you by Virgin Voyages. is thanks virgin well hello and welcome to crappy hour i'm ronnie that is ben over there hi ben hi how's it going good how you doing today baby um i'm doing quite well you know what though i feel like should we should we get should we sizzle up this look a little bit oh yeah oh yeah Oh, yeah. We were just doing our other live thing for the day and had to have a black background. So here we go. Let's get some color back into it. I'm going to make our faces bigger. What do you think of that? Oh, yes. Going wild today. Giant faced men.

1:06How is everybody today? Ben, welcome back from vacation. Okay. Thank you. I love that we had all this time off and today it's, we've been working doing, this is our fourth thing because we did Potomac and marriage and medicine. And then we did, um, Amazon and now we're doing this. So we're diving into this week. Oh, it is as it is the biggest shopping moment of all time. I forgot. I forgot Ronnie. I was going to, I was going to do this right now. I may have to go back to the wide view to have as much space on the go ahead take it baby we're just going to get a little wide no no you don't have to remove yourself I actually would like you to say because something arrived and perhaps it's appropriate for a toddler it's a copy of the rumors and the nastiness a new board game by the rumors and the nastiness My Meredith Marks.

2:09Actually, that's funny. Look at how the rumors is spelled. It's spelled with a umlaut. Umlaut. And nasty notes. Shall we do an unboxing? Sure. Unbox that sucker. Get it ready to go. So for those of you just listening, Ben just got a big box in the mail. It's pink. Okay? It's a big pink box. And he's now opening it with scissors. With scissors. It says on the front it's the Meredith Marks Limited Edition. This is the limited edition and it's a very good game. You will not fall asleep. So you'll always know exactly how this game will end. Unlike certain feature films that I may have watched on an airplane.

2:47Okay. The plastic is coming off. It's a very nice box. You guys know, I, I, I play a lot of board games. So I'm, I, I appreciate good quality. I'm going to take off the, the rumors and nastiness band that is holding it. My fear is that it's going to have like some perfume smell. Do you think it won't have a person? No, There won't be a perfume smell in there. Someone says, does it come with caviar? Now that would be. Oh, caviar. I'm moving around the board. Oh, I figured out how to open it. Ready? Oh, is it a hinged box? It's a hinged box. How nice. Wow. Get fancy. Okay. The inside says, is it a rumor or the nasty truth?

3:31That's that line of the box. So what we have here, we have a series. There we go. Here are the rules. We have a series of shot glasses. This is basically a shot glass kit. We have some dry erase markers. Perfect for a toddler who doesn't want to stain his clothes. And we have, we do have a caviar situation here. There's, by all means this is actual caviar. It says it's a it says it's caviar is best served with a side of chaos. This isn't caviar. Imagine she just sent caviar in an unrefrigerated box. Nice room temperature caviar. Oh, my God. It's not. These are questions that you can ask people.

4:17Oh, OK. So questions. Is it waterproof so you can play in the bath? That would be very smart. So we have, I guess, ones are some are rumors and some are NASA's. this is actually a very well-produced game it looks like it's a more of a party game um let's see this is okay here's a question it says is this a rumor or nasty truth circle one gossip coaster okay well i i will learn the rules to this i will report back i will see if i can play it my board game friends are gonna be like what the hell is this what is this but i'm determined to get this to the table i will report back thank you the marks family for sending me this lovely board game so that's it wow the entire family sent it well that is something they all put it in the mailbox together they each put a hand on it and we're like send it off to ben yeah well that's a pretty nice gift i was also given a great gift this thanksgiving weekend and that was gossip from the secret lives of mormon wives which i'm finally getting caught up on i'm on like episode four of the new season and jesse and demi are at it have you been following any of this i know that there was something with the fruit loops that came back or whatever fruity pebbles so yeah they've been going at it you know demi is going on post calling you know jesse thirsty both of them are questionable if you ask me and my niece was watching some of this with me and she was watching some of the instagrams with me and she said so wait a minute so both of them have been cheating on their husbands with some other guy but now they're fighting over who actually had sex with the guy?

5:55I said, yeah, basically. Basically. So they've been fighting back and forth. A lot of you have been following that and know all the little dirty details. But Jesse came on and was like, okay, guys, well, just so you know, the whole Fruity Pebble storyline was because her old man Brett, which I like that they're calling him old man Brett now. She said, old man Brett loves to drink her pee. He drinks it by the gallon. Yeah. And that's what we call Fruity Pebble. So there you go have fun with that demi and then everyone's like oh my god fruity pebbles was pee the whole time which listen as someone who loves fruity pebbles is fruity pebbles gonna sue these women because they should like i don't want any fruity pebbles now thinking of brett drinking demi's pee i mean listen do whatever you'd like to but why do you have to involve my favorite cereal is cocoa pebbles next leave cocoa pebbles alone it's a lot seem to be a bit of a brand crisis i I do agree.

6:50If your brand is being put out there as slang for urine, not a great look, especially if your brand is an edible brand like Fruity Pebbles. So that's great. Yeah. And Demi's response was to do some like kind of PR written or chat GPT written response. It was like, my husband and I's personal private sex life being exposed on the national television is quite a choice and a disaster. You know, she goes through this whole victim thing. I'm like, babe, you're exposing this other girl on national TV. Like, we're going to cry for you. But listen, I'm not crying for anybody on that show, especially Demi or Jesse, because Jesse is kind of the hero this season, even though she kind of cheated on her husband and somehow we're all rooting for her.

7:34But I will not forget, Jesse is the one who's always trying to get people to sin on that show. She's the one who's always like, you want to drink? You want to drink? Come on, have a drink in the hot tub. She's always and she was Demi's friend. And so I think she was just as messy. But, man, I'm loving watching that show because, as usual, they are just stabbing each other in the back and just giving the biggest, fakest, sweetest religious smiles as they do it. It's a creepy show. And I love every creep on it. Every single one of them. I love it. Speaking of which, as long as we're talking about that, I went to look to see where Whitney landed on Dancing with the Stars because I know she made it really far.

8:10Guess where Whitney is going to next? Chicago. actual the actual musical chicago whitney from secret lives of dancing secret lives of mormon wives is going to play roxy hart so there you go everyone that's two hours that news broke two hours ago uh right there so the name on everybody's lips is joseph yeah i think it's time to just close it I mean, you know, Whitney's kind of a dick, too. I mean, Whitney's whole thing. Last season, she worked so hard to get back on that show. And then this year, the show opens with them saying, yeah, Whitney won't come because she was demanding, like, a role in a scripted show and more money.

8:56I think it wasn't even about money. It was like she wanted a role in a show and all this other stuff. I mean, you know, you can't blame a girl for asking, but I don't know. I think she's riding high and good for her. You know, she got to go on Dancing with the Stars. She did really well on that show, too. Yeah. And she gets to go on Chicago. But those are all kind of like dead end things. You know what I mean? Dancing with the Stars. That role in Chicago. No, Dance with the Stars is having a resurgence. It was the largest. It was like the largest primetime audience since the Friends finale. The Dance with the Stars finale.

9:31Which I don't know why. Wow, really? But apparently. That's huge because that was a different time, too. You know? Yeah. Dancer the Stars has been leaning more into TikTok users, which is what these girls are also. And so it's really powered the ratings. Dylan Efron, formerly of Traders. So he's relevant to our world. He was also on it. He also made it very far, which is probably because he's like super hot. So people were like, oh, let's just see him. They just have him shirtless every single week. But Robert Irwin won. And I saw the first week and Robert Irwin was so good. And I was really also happy that Andy Richter made it really far.

10:06but I fell off after the first week. I tried to watch some more of it, but you know, life happens guys. Fruity Pebbles happened guys. And you just can't keep up with dancing with the stars. But yeah. So people are telling us she's also going to be in some kind of a TV movie or something. She should be on Broadway. So yeah, I guess mostly people are behind Whitney. So that's good. I don't really care. I don't hate Whitney anymore because I think she had a good season of apologizing last season, Season two where she just like sucked it up, you know, and that's on these shows. That's big. That's hard to do to spend an entire season sucking up to people that you probably really hate, you know.

10:44So, you know, good for her. I wish her the best. OK, so next up, the big news, I think this week has been the Candy and Todd divorce. Candy and Todd from Real Housewives of Atlanta announced that they are done. So they're done. I saw Candy doing I saw a clip of her Amazon live and she was saying, y 'all, this has been going on for a long time. I know I don't cry a lot, but I have cried. You know, she was doing that whole thing. And she said it's been in the works for a long time. I suspected it when the restaurant started closing because Blaze closed, OLG closed. And those are all Todd's babies.

11:24And I knew that once those started closing, Candy was getting sick of paying for his constant and utter failure. So, you know, I guess she got she decided to get rid of him, which is good. Good for her. I mean, when they closed, how about when they opened? He just started spending all of her money. And we always said so. But there was like one season where I think we were on Todd's side early on when we thought like it was cute and Mama Joyce being so mean to him. And we're like, oh, my God, but he's so cute and they like each other. It was not right. mama joyce was right all along as brittany beauchamp in the comments says mama joyce was a hundred percent correct and the thing is this the audience came to mama joyce's side pretty quickly you know like it became pretty obvious that todd had no business sense and was just spending her money left and right doing this like garbage projects like todd tucker presents the pass or blaze or all these restaurants or that you remember he was the mexican restaurant he just kept on spending her money and and then they go off to strip clubs and i know strip club culture is different in atlanta and everything but like there just was a sense that he was just a user and and he was a dick to her and he made her feel bad for going out and working i'm like where do you think your money's coming from i guarantee it's not coming from blaze yeah fuck that guy glad he's gone as jay jamie patel is pointing out in the comments as aunt bertha once said I think this was a scheme set up by Todd to bring the bullshit.

12:56And I would agree. I'm glad to see Todd out of there. Now, Todd is not going to go easy, unfortunately. They just spent Thanksgiving together for the family, with her family. And everything seemed like, oh, wow, maybe this will go peacefully. I don't, I didn't think so. And sure enough, Monday after Thanksgiving, he drops the bomb that he is demanding primary custody and questioning the prenuptial agreement. So Todd wants full custody. Gee, I wonder if it's because he'll get child support for that. And he's questioning that prenup, which is hilarious. Do you think Candy's an idiot? I mean, she was dumb enough to marry you, but I think even Candy knew who she was marrying.

13:43He's not going to get away with that. What do you think? Well, first of all, happy birthday to Debbie, who's spending her 70th birthday with us right now. Happy birthday. I think, like, what money has Todd brought to this relationship that he could possibly say he is owed? I don't think so. No. He is a total user. I mean, no, no, no. And he wants full custody. Why would he? Why? In what world is Candy not a fit mother? You know, she's got, like, this entire, she has this enormous family behind her, and they all take care of each other. We've seen it through the years. We've seen how great Riley has turned out.

14:19Okay, she's like a star on Next Gen New York City. She's a lovely young woman who pays for assholes bar tabs with Apple Pay. So, like, why would you ever... Like, honestly, and Kayla seems very nice as well, too. But, like, if we're going to look at the scoreboard, I'm going with Team Riley on this one. I don't care. I'll say it. I'm going with Team Riley in terms of that. OK, so I'm sorry. I do not. I'm not giving Todd full custody. Well, according to Us Magazine, which is where I'm getting these quotes, Tucker, 52, noted Burris's work obligations will continue to require her to be away from the children for at least the next several months.

15:01As he pleaded for primary custody, his filing noted the parties have been working cooperatively in an effort to resolve all issues, blah, blah, blah. I want to get to the prenup. Apparently, he is saying that this prenup was filed under duress. It was signed under duress. Now, anybody who saw their show about their wedding, which I did, I watched all episodes of that, and that was not under duress. Okay? You had plenty of time. You knew what you were doing. There couldn't have been too much shock that you had to sign a prenup when you were marrying Candy. You lazy bastard. Go to work. Get a job.

15:37You lazy. And it's so great that Todd has that little shame that he is just becoming what everybody predicted he was going to be right from the beginning. You know, do you think it's him just saying like, well, everybody always called me a lazy piece of shit with no talent and no work ambition. And now I'm just going to do it. Is he going the Aaron Piper's way? All I've got to say is note that this did not happen while she was on Real Housewives of Atlanta. And now suddenly, you know, like suddenly now that the cameras are off, like, you know, this is all falling apart. And I'm not saying this isn't even Candy's fault, even though I think you told me earlier today that she was the one who filed for it.

16:16I'm just saying he probably was being performative. I based this on nothing, just on like observation watching the show. He was probably being performative so he could be on the show. And then when the show is not there anymore, he's like, I'm out of here. And he starts being a dick. Remember when he bought that whole condo in like New Jersey? and he's like yeah this is where I can stay when I'm up in New York like which was so obviously like a really weird choice that he didn't glue candy into it it felt kind of like a fuck pad like I I don't know I and and you know also like you know when I mentioned Riley and Kayla before like that was that was kind of mean but it's more like like Todd is so mean to Kayla I'm sorry he really is and he was like he was doing he's like a very strict parent and you know we always joke about how you know you know parents be like oh you know what like kids are wanting too much blah blah blah blah blah blah but what i'm saying is right like the candy's method turned out very very well and riley has really blossomed to be a wonderful person and i just don't know why you would feel the need to just remove the children from candy entirely that's just absolutely crazy i i don't know i do not i well i guess what he's saying is that he wants primary custody because she's going to be out of town all the time and she won't be able to make the primary decisions because she won't be there enough so now he's mad that she's working too much well i'm sure trying to get her money as well he's gonna be what she's gonna get by working so she's gonna get by working on him so yeah that guy's a fucking loser so candy's gonna be out of town all this time so why did he buy that condo then in new york is that just for you know architectural digest like you're going to be out of town too well obviously not because we saw the condo that is no architectural digest you will be traveling all over as well no i'm sorry i'm sorry i don't believe in any of this i think that i'm team candy all the way to the end and i think that candy seems like a great person i think riley seems like a wonderful person i think kayla seems like a wonderful person the only one here who is a loser is todd and sorry not backing you on this one yeah that is loser behavior sir so terrible luck to you terrible luck to you yeah terrible terrible luck to Todd Tucker.

18:25Don't want to hear it anymore from him. Enough. Shut up, Mountain for Todd Tucker. It's time for a commercial. It's time for a Crappens commercial.

18:38I think someone else who's really embracing their villainy is Leah McSweeney. Why are we still talking about Leah McSweeney? I don't know. I usually don't. I'll usually pass up a Leah mcsweeney story because she is obnoxious as hell but she did post this i'm gonna put this up on the screen so people can see it share screen share my window share this one with the evil on it this is leah mcsweeney she uh real housewives of new york alum leah mcsweeney mocks hold on let me not sign in with google mocks detractors and defiantly takes credit for the show's demise She posted a picture of herself in like, I don't know, what is this?

19:19Like a little mini skirt and a bikini top bending over in a limo and then biting her thumb and looking sexily in the camera with messy hair. And it says, just a baddie that ruined your favorite franchise, Blackhearts. Yeah. You know, it still seems to be happy to benefit from that, though, huh? It seems to be happy to benefit from that franchise. dang Leah's such a disappointment she just always is I mean her first season was so entertaining for me she was so I know that she was like shit faced and she like that is an issue for her and I get that but she did have a real supreme knack for kind of calling things out she was entertaining not just because she was drunk all the time and crazy and it's a real shame that that just that was had a spectacular one of the biggest flops in housewives history like to go from her first season to her second season but she even she even took away the joy in in like drunk ladies on real housewives of new york with her whole stunt of like they made me drink and they're the reason they put me in a bad situation knowing i'm an alcoholic it made me drink this is real housewives of new york madame you cannot take down a whole show because you can't first of all you started drinking before We don't even need to go back there.

20:39But they made a lot of what was fun about it. She made a lot of what was fun about that show. No longer fun. Please leave us alone. Please. We've had enough of you. Be gone. Be gone. You know, it's so funny. I was telling you this before about how last night, for no good reason, I went on to Blue Sky. And I posted my top 25 housewives who are cast from season five or later. I don't know why. I decided to make a listicle and I decided to put it on Blue Sky of all places. So I did. And I was struggling because I really, there was a part of me that really wanted to put Leah McSweeney on there because her first season was so tremendous.

21:19I was like, I want to put her on there. I don't want to erase that because it was so good. But then she was so bad. Actually, she wasn't even, honestly, even her second season, she was lame, but she wasn't as bad as other people are. But I think it's sort of just like, when I think of the second season, I just think of sort of that attached to everything that followed. And it's just kind of like such a disappointment. Like she could have been one of the great ones. She really could have. Didn't we almost have it all? I know. And you ruined it. I'm never going to forget the tiki torches in the backyard.

21:55I mean, that's one thing that will always be. We will always have that. And we'll always be able to enjoy that. She had some classic moments, but she also had Real Housewives Ultimate Girls Trip, as was pointed out here in the comments. And that was really when she just crashed and burned. Yeah. Although she even had good moments in that. I remember there was that scene where she was sitting at dinner and she was just being a big baby. But she was also like annoying everyone in a way that was like very funny to me. She was like, oh, you guys just like yapping on and on and on. And then like Alexia got so mad at her.

22:29Wasn't Alexia like, that's like really rude. I'm telling a story. She had moments, but yeah, ultimately the, obviously we all know she sucks. It's just, I get sad. I get sad when I see potential go down the drain. Yeah. So what, what do you want to talk about today, Ben? Well, as long as we're talking about stuff, this is actually slightly older now because it broke the day after our last one. I like that. I like that segue. As long as we're talking about stuff. As long as we're talking about like big scandals. one thing that we really have not gotten to talk about is the mia thornton saga that's unfolding down in the south which is that she got arrested like the day after our last uh not bravo con but crappy hour so mad she got arrested so everyone knows about this by now but she got arrested for stealing the furniture in an in a was it an airbnb she was in from a rental i'm like she's a messy one she's a real and the body cam footage you know we got body cam footage from this one and you know she's crying and stuff and no one even had money to get her out i mean it was twenty five hundred dollars and i think she was in there for a long time i mean she was in there for days if not a week at least where was ink broke was like trying to sell a couch probably it's like trying to put the bail money on the counter like guys i got it can someone just Give me an apple crate.

23:52Come on. Yeah. And then she was posting on her Instagram when she got out, obviously, herself in like ball gowns and black and white photos being like strength. I am all about strength and grace and class. I'm like, girl, you stole a couch from an Airbnb. That's why you went to jail and you couldn't even afford to get out of there. What the hell is going on with you? What is going on? And then she said her guy had the furniture in storage somewhere, and so she didn't know how to get it. And how much do you even make from stolen Airbnb furniture? Good Lord. I don't know. But poor Mia. She went from the joint to the joint.

24:33It's a sad saga. The joint chiropractic to just the joint. Just the joint. Just the joint. Bless her tart little heart. I would say, like, you know, these scandals come through Bravo fairly regularly. And this is the first time we've seen stolen furniture from an Airbnb. It's actually sad. It's actually such a sad story. It is really sad. Because, yeah, one of the other headlines is Mia Thornton sued for eviction over unpaid rent weeks before airport arrest. So, you know, look, nobody wants to, especially in the times we're living in, it's not like, ha ha, you're poor. but girl stealing the furniture from your Airbnb and then putting it in your boyfriend's U-Haul rental is pretty bad come on that's pretty bad but it's also just like if you take away the real world sadness of it which is very sad because it's clear that I think we all had that sense that once she was off of Potomac this was going to be her thing and then it was going to be a very sad like post-fame crush for her.

25:36But if you take away that depressing element of it, there is just, there's like that, like real housewives crimes sometimes are so bonkers. So bonkers. Yeah, really, but it's crazy that that's the third person on Potomac to be in that kind of trouble recently because you had Karen, then you have Wendy, who has not been convicted or tried yet, but that's not looking good. and then you've got mia and i think that out of all of those i mean i thought i mean i guess they're all kind of stupid they're all stupid crimes they're all stupid dui is just stupid and especially your fourth i mean that's just that's just dumb wendy's was like the worst faked robbery ever so that was really stupid and then this one stealing furniture but this is the stupidest and the saddest.

26:28Yeah. Well, the good news is, instead of focusing on all the people who are going to jail, why don't we spread some holiday cheer around for the people who are coming out of jail? Because guess what? We are nine days away from J-Day. Jen Shaw. We knew it. Wow. She is getting shalliest. I think I could swear we made a bet on one of the crappy hours or one of the episodes about when Jen Shaw is going to be released or maybe it was Karen. I think I said two years, but I was wrong, right? Cause it's been longer than two years. Has it been longer than two years? I think my guess was two years. I think it's been about two years, but if someone could find that, someone could find that in the archives, I would love to see where, where we actually landed with that because yeah, J day is arriving on us for us.

27:21She's getting out of jail. um i don't think that she's going back to real housewives of salt lake city but you know crazier things actually i won because i said she'd be out in two years and she started her sentence on february 17th 2023 thank you wait i don't know does that make me late so wait i seem to remember i know so i'm late right yeah i'm late never mind i didn't win shit i actually i don't want to be like this ronnie but i seem to remember in this case i I actually felt like I feel like I came in under you. I feel like I said that it was going to be really in two years. I have a big number.

28:00That's why we need to look this up for us. Alas, it was longer than two years. So I still I still lost. But yeah, that's that's pretty crazy. She's going to be back. Do you think she's going to be back on the show? I I don't think so, but I would not put it past Whitney to shoot a scene with her where she's like she's like, yeah, I met with Jen. Because I needed to clear things up. I needed to get closure. And I believe in forgiveness. So, yeah. Even though she tried to drown me in a pond one time. Theoretically. Theoretically. Well, she wouldn't know that word.

28:40I think Whitney would do it. But I don't think Andy likes Jen Shaw. And I don't think that he wants her on the show. The show has thrived without her. I don't know that it's really Andy's choice. You know, I mean, he's a producer, but I don't think he's like the, you know, he said himself that he's not the, you know, final voice over there. So I don't know. And then they were introducing Francis, or not introducing her, but they were talking to Francis in some article, which I didn't link today. I'm just thinking of what I read this week. But, you know, Francis, who's the head of the chairman of Bravo, and we met her at BravoCon.

29:15Ben and Frances are besties now. But Frances was in an article, and they were interviewing her about who she would bring back. And she basically said everybody who's been fired. She's like, sure. Yep, I'd bring them back. Love her, too. She's great, too. NeNe, sure. Bring her back. She loves everybody. The headline literally says, Bravo Boss Francis Burwick on the Joy of BravoCon. And who can be forgiven by the network? Karen Huger. And who can't? Jen Shah, probably. well but read it because i don't think she said i think she said that maybe francis was in a good mood whenever they got francis first of all i'd never heard of francis being in an interview before so i like that somebody got an interview with her and i love that she's just so like laissez-faire she's like yeah sure bring them back bring them all back love them all i'll take them i think um i mean jen being an active scammers or or having been an active scammer is really bad.

30:14And I guess people are saying in the comments that someone once scammed Andy Cohen. So he may have a real. A real axe to grind about this one. That's true, because the same thing happened to him. It's almost happened to me. Thank God I have a Ben in my life. You know what? Andy needs a Ben, because remember that day I called you and I was like, oh, my God, someone's trying to get in my Google account. I'm freaking out. I'm on with customer service at Google and they're telling me, you know, they're sending me a new pass, you know, a new number and I have to send it to them. And you're like, I don't, I don't know.

30:43I'm like, this sounds fishy. I don't think I should give it to him. And you're like, Ronnie, I don't think there is a customer service at Google. Like they're not, I'm like, but they called me and I looked, I did a reverse lookup on their number and it said Google. And you're like, Ronnie, Google does not call you. He said, this is a scam. And I was like, I think it's a scam too, but I'm not, I'm not sure yet. Should I do it? I'm so scared. They have my crypto, they have everything been like they could see everything that was on my um my passwords you know all the places that i had passwords to and i was like oh my god it's really them how else would they know because they broke into your account you stupid dick yeah that's how it's really scammers are hard i mean we've all been scammed we've all they're getting good smart about it and in fact there was just an article in the new york times over the weekend this guy wrote about being scammed and he goes i he goes i write about scams for a living i am aware of every scam in the book i've been writing about scams for 20 years i know them all and i still just got scammed so like we all it happens to all of us they're getting really good at it but you know jen is the lowest of the low because she purposely went after the the easy target you know the easiest like the saddest people the brokest people the old people who are living on their pensions etc so you know we don't have to like go on and on about how shitty she was because we've done that for years but yeah i I really hope Bravo doesn't stoop that low.

32:02Although I do watch Bravo because they do stoop that low. So I wouldn't be surprised if they did. My prediction is her ass will be back, but I hope that I'm wrong. By the way, what was so funny was when you were actively getting scammed, I did think it was so interesting that when you put them on speaker for me, I heard in the background, but what about me? But what about me? I need your Google password. What about me? little did they know that's the password but you know what though okay cynically speaking people have committed all sorts of crimes and still wound up back on reality tv like it's one of it's one of the blights of the genre unfortunately as much as i'm a proponent of reality tv and real housewives whatever this is something that happens and and you can know and producers will always sort of write it up by saying but we're interested in telling human experiences.

32:58Like even if someone committed a crime, we want to see what's it like after you've been in jail and now like have to navigate back with your friends. They'll come up with something like that. So even if you decide to take the cynical approach of like bring Jen back for some scenes, the problem is that like Jen is ultimately like not a compelling real housewife and she never has been. There've been some times where she's been sort of interesting. The season, the season when everything crumbled for a season two was truly like, I still think that's probably the number two best season that Salt Lake ever had.

33:25Which one? Number season two when she got arrested. But like, I don't think that it's because she was so interesting. She had some interesting moments. And like, there were times like where I could sort of enjoy Jen Shaw when she was sort of being more real and jokey or whatever. But ultimately she was like one of these people who wanted to be on TV. And it showed it, but there was not that authenticity. And the group really has its own chemistry right now. That's really strong. And I think that Jen Shaw, the show's moved on past her. And I think Bravo's moved past her. I don't think that she should be back.

33:57Yeah, I agree. And I didn't like her on the show. I thought she was obnoxious and too much and just an asshole and a faker. So I was glad to see her get arrested for that. Because I would like to see people get arrested for just being bad housewives. Because I feel like it's a crime. So get ready, Peggy. Both Peggy's from Orange County. Get ready. most of the OC that they brought on over the years. Lydia, we could throw on that burning heat. I have some weird soft spot for Lydia. I don't know what it is. I always feel like Lydia could have been better. She just always got stuck on a bad season.

34:36We could talk about Kelly Dodd and the voicemail she left for her daughter. Did you watch that? I watched it. Did you watch it? The video? Of course I did. I played it at Thanksgiving Canasta for the whole family i was like you guys got to hear this because listen if you're going to keep me hold up for three days playing canasta you're going to have to hear my instagrams or my tiktoks and that was one of them who was the girl that was playing it it wasn't even jolie right that was no wasn't it one of her friends who got the voicemail and then she leaked the voicemail or was it actually jolie because i didn't recognize jolie that was yeah jolie's she's grown up she's a young lady now well okay so it was kelly dodd and it was a voicemail it was it was very Alec Baldwin you know Alec Baldwin's voicemail to his kid when he's like you little pig or whatever he called her quiet piggy which was another thing that happened during our break um anyway sorry I got sidetracked there I got into politics I was like wait a minute um but um yeah so it was very friend by the way some people are saying yeah I didn't think it was Jolie yeah so I guess Jolie had sent it to her friend and her friend just sat there with her vape like smoking her vape and playing the phone.

35:47And so the voicemail was just very Kelly. It's like, you little twerp, you're disgusting. You're disgusting. And you think you can say things about me? Well, you better watch it because I've got recordings of you and I can release those recordings of you. You spoiled, spoiled, terrible little girl. I'm surprised she didn't call her a little bitch. That was my only shock was that she wasn't like completely cursing her out, but it was pretty bad. But also very Kelly. I think she said, you, if you think you're going to do that, if you think you're going to take Michael's side after he treated you like garbage, you are dumb as fuck.

36:28She said something like that. You're a dumb fuck. If you think that she really like, uh, that's what you call, um, someone, some therapist child getting put to college, getting paid college tuition paid for because that is like that is that was and you think like look at all i've paid for you i've paid for your classes i've paid for you to go to the doctor i'm like wow you paid for your own daughter to go to the doctor i know mother theresa over there i know standard fair standard fair i like this uh comment by jennifer it says her friend was sent it by kelly because jolie blocked her so kelly was sending this voicemail to a friend to play for Jolie to tell her off because Jolie blocked her.

37:11That's crazy. Yeah, that's... Yikes. It's a sad situation, and what's also really sad is that when we saw them on the show, they actually had such a lovely relationship, or that's what it seemed like. So it makes me actually really sad for both of them. No. I feel... You don't feel sad that that relationship fell apart? No, not at all. It's vile. I'm glad for Jolie for sticking up for herself. If you've got a mom who's talking to you like that, that's crazy. I'm saying that they used to have a nice thing. They had a nice relationship. And then now it's like this. I think that the fact that it went from that to this is sad.

37:46I'm not saying that. I'm not saying like, oh, poor Kelly Dodd right now. I'm just saying that the fact that it has fallen apart like that is really too bad because we saw that girl growing up a little bit. Yeah, because I see comments here that say she reposted a blogger who called Jolie a bitch. She mentioned that Jolie had a mental illness. Yeah, she said something like, you're a sick girl with mental illness or something like that. Yeah, she said that, yeah. But Kelly's been going through it with her whole family. I mean, she was going through it with her brother. Her brother's been on Instagram making all sorts of, you know, accusations against her.

38:20And then she saw another video of her the other day saying, my brother is sick. He is cuckoo. He is loco in the head. You believe him? You believe him? Do not believe crazy people. So, I don't know. That's just a mess, you know. It's a huge mess. That whole thing is a mess. Yeah. But let's go on to something funnier. Lighter and funnier. Actually, not funnier, but it's just at least lighter. Jenna Lyons leaving Roni. I guess we knew that was going to happen. There's no shock there. The only person shocked was Jenna, I think. I think that Jenna, and I don't even think Jenna was so bad on it. I enjoyed Jenna.

38:57I think the rumor was, and up until now, that she was going to be back as a friend of, which I thought would make perfect sense. We'd still get a little taste of her, you know, kind of commenting on everything. She wouldn't have to show her life. I'm really interested in her life. Cass, the woman she's dating, is a photographer. And we've heard Jenna say on camera, yeah, she can't come on camera because she'll get canceled. Like, she knows she'll get canceled just because of the shit spewing out of her mouth. I want to see that. That's what I want to see. I know. And so she, I think she even says I was invited to be a friend of, and I turned it down.

39:34Um, I think she should have been, I think friend of would have been a good role for her. Like I think we've seen some people who have been, who've really flourished in the friend of role. I think Cynthia Bailey has done very nicely as a friend of, I actually like Vicki Gumbelson as a friend of, um, there are various others I can't remember, but like, um, well, obviously like half the cast of Miami has been turned to a friend of, and they're great in that role. So I think Jenna would have been good. And I've always said, like, I remember the show that she had stylish with Jenna Lyons. I was on HBO Max back during the Jennifer Tilly during the pandemic.

40:08It was a great show that really highlighted her quirky personality. She was like, it was like the promise of Carol, Carol Radswell came to fruition with Jenna Lyons. But I think that's a full fledged housewife. It just was not, it just didn't, it was, it wasn't, it wasn't a great, a great match. I think I really wanted it to happen to work. It just didn't. But you know what? Yeah, but you know what? They're really trying. They're redoing that show again. They're rebooting the reboot. They're only keeping Three Housewives. They're keeping Jessel, Cy, and Aaron, which, I mean, Jessel. Stop it, Jessel.

40:46Like, why are you keeping half the terrible parts of it? You know, if you're going to start over, just start over for Christ's sake. Well, I would keep Jessel 100%. I think Jussel was the best thing to come out of the reboot because she has that like delusion and she says dumb things. And I think Jussel was a great, a great find. Aaron, I just I think actually Cy had a strong second season because I thought first season. She did. She had a better second season. Yeah, she had she had a better second season. She did. I just I'm I just I'm concerned about Aaron. I just don't I don't know if Aaron is like I don't know if she's entertaining enough.

41:21stuff like i don't know i i it's like she seems like a nice person maybe i've heard the babe was fun i like the babe in terms of when we met she seemed nice you know look i've you know i've talked to both aaron and and uh the husband the husband at length about stuff i said during their first season and you know they were cool they were nice we had a good conversation but i still watched the second season was like i mean still though come on i just need funnier people i need funnier people that's it's not even anything personal against her i don't you know i don't know where that will as a person but just i need funnier wackier people i don't need some like boring like i'm in real estate i've come my business is called home girl get it do you get it do you wait ronnie don't say that to the person who introduced mezcal to america i think that i think you know she's not really campy enough and she's not deluded enough and And she's not like enough of like a villain.

42:20So she sort of falls in this weird space. And maybe with a proper ensemble, she can finally like flower. But yeah, we'll see. Yeah, no for me. Well, some happy news. There is a new cast member in Portia Williams live. She has come out. She has basically come out as officially bisexual with her new romance. girlfriend patrice sway mckinney so that was true all those rumors were true about um porsche and someone named sway and let me just say i will put this up here now i'll put the article from people magazine up here so you guys can see sway cute so she is cute really cute she's and they look very cute together i like sway yeah i do too i only know her i only know her from a picture but she's pretty cute.

43:15Portia Williams hard launched her new relationship with girlfriend Patrice Sway McKinney. On November 28th, the relationship is the first The Real Housewives of Atlanta star has made public since her divorce from Simon. Simon Williams revealed in October that she was talking to two people, a man and a woman, and the woman won out. And that is Sway. Sway. Sway is the founder of Encore Salon Suites in Atlanta. Ooh, and I like that she's competing with Kenya and her bustling business. Kenya Moore hair care. Kenya Moore hair care. Yeah, I do like that. You know, we talked a lot about jail, by the way, and we've overlooked a very important prison story that broke.

44:00Have we? Yeah, two days ago. And I'm surprised that I'm the one who has to bring it to the podcast because, you know, I don't like to have to bring this. You know, I don't like to increase the visibility about certain things. I don't like to shine lights on certain things. But this one comes from the world of McBee Dynasty. And I'm bringing it here to crappy hour. What don't I know about McBee Dynasty? Masha's going to jail. What? Masha? What'd Masha do? How did my Google alerts not go off? I have a Google alert for Masha and for Galena. What happened? Well, Masha Petrova has been ordered to serve two days in jail after pleading guilty to speeding.

44:41oh come on that's it but to be i think her defense i mean how does she not have this defense i was racing to get home to save ginger my favorite chicken i know i was gonna say did they look in that trunk and see if ginger's in there because i'll bet she was the one who kidnapped ginger that whole time and tried to pin it on my sweet galena not masha oh god also just bought new pan and i'm afraid that galena will destroy it don't put it in dishwasher don't beat it and I have to race home. I'm sorry. I have to go there as soon as possible. By the way, I took a picture with the love of my life, Jessie McBee, with Casey from Bitch Sesh Garbage World, and she did not give me the picture.

45:22I've asked her on Instagram. She is still not giving me the picture. So if anybody knows her, please message her and tell her that I'm dying for this picture. I asked her for Thanksgiving. I said, I need this for Thanksgiving to remind myself of what I'm thankful of. And I still have not received this effing picture. and I'm pissed. Really, this is what happens when you put your eggs in a McBee basket. Disappointment. You find yourself walking up to them at BravoCon and taking photos. You're so excited that you didn't even think to get it on your own phone. That was idiotic of me, but I trusted her.

45:55I was like, hey, this is a way that I'm going to show trust in this friendship. I'm going to let Casey be in charge of it. And that was the biggest GD mistake of my life. So someone please tell her I'm pissed and I need the picture immediately.

46:13We will arrange to get that photo to you. I need it. I'm going to frame it. I'm going to give it to myself for Christmas. He was so cute in his baby blue cowboy suit and matching cowboy hat. What a dream. And I said, Jesse, I love your show. And he said, I don't know why people watch it. We're just such a mess. And I was like, that's why. Love you. That was our interaction. My experience with the McBee is, aside from the fact that when Galena came walking up to us randomly like as soon as we walked in that party galena walked up like a robot and i was like oh my god it's galena but um i just remember it wasn't random she listens to the show i fucking love but it's like i want her in my life i wanted to become best friends with her and be like hey hello i wanted to be like yes hey girl what's going on what's happening with you today but what do you mean you have to go you do not want to leave me you do not want to leave me And then Bueller goes missing.

47:06I'm out in the streets. I'm like, I'm sorry, Galena. I'm sorry, girl, please. Listen, all I know is that at one point I turned around and Cole McBee was laughing two feet from my face. And I'm just like, imagine his little tiny mouth making that circle and the little teeth coming out of it. And he's like. Well, not Cole. I wasn't excited about Cole. I know. He's like the sequel of Wizard of Oz when all the trees were evil and tried to eat Dorothy. I didn't even know that even happened I didn't know there was a sequel like that Are you sure nothing about Poltergeist? That didn't have trees, did it?

47:42Poltergeist 2 had a tree The original Poltergeist had a tree I think that was very threatening Oh, I don't remember that But I do remember the trees trying to eat Dorothy So, yeah He's an evil tree So, let's see What else is happening in this world? Oh, Marucio Umansky Oh, yeah. Mauricio did a sexy photo shoot in some leather pants. Oh, you know what? Actually, we're nearing the end of this, and we need to start talking to some people soon. So let's get caught up in it. We got caught up. What else happened in the reaction? More important things. Let's go to more important things. So Mary Cosby's son, Robert Jr.'s wife, files for divorce as he sits in jail following his latest arrest.

48:27Oh, my goodness. What a mess. Yeah. That whole situation is so sad. And I do think those two kids probably need to be away from each other so that way they can heal. I'm assuming there's some sort of codependency going on there. So I'm happy with this personally. Yeah. Her motion, her petition requires that both parties do not harass, intimidate, or disturb the peace of the other party by any means, including electronically. Let's see here. What else does it tell us? It prohibits violence or abuse against the other party or a child. Use the other party's name, likeness, or image to get credit.

49:08Open an account for service or obtain a service. Cancel or interfere with telephone. Blah, blah, blah. They can also not terminate policies of health insurance, homeowners, or rental insurance. God, this is a lot of information in here. Jesus. He's charged with a violation of a pretrial protective order, criminal trespassing, property, damage and destruction assault on a peace officer or military member in uniform and failure to stop at the command of law enforcement and he is still in jail yikes oh makes me very sad very very sad robert was slow to recognize that his marriage was over his attorney told people just stop it slow sorry what i uh i thought you were done so i i was i was i put up an image of cole mcbee's mouth to be a palate cleanser.

50:02Poor Cole. What did Cole do? Nothing. Cole didn't do anything but beat up a hill. And look how mean we are to him.

50:12The more you look at it, the more fascinating it becomes. Just let that boy be. Let that boy McBee. Okay. Oh, poor Cole. So what do you want to finish out with? We've got a lot of little stories here we could finish out with. This one's kind of fun. I'm not looking at it anymore I took it off my screen I took it down I swear it's safe I just hear your evil little laugh over there I'm just laughing at the concept of Cole McBee it's a funny concept the concept in this one how about we end with a good girl on lady fight Paige DeSorbo versus Patricia Austool from 7 Charm oh no to Decider Paige DeSorbo has been activated in a since-deleted Instagram comment under a clip of Decider's recent interview with Patricia.

51:04DeSorbo clapped back at the matriarch who criticized her for leaving Craig Conover despite his wishes to settle down and start a family. I made the comment that I thought she was mean to Craig, and I stand by that. If a man says to you, I want to start a family and have children, you don't say black and carry on like she did. Dun, dun, dun. And Paige responded in the comments. I'll just get married four times instead. Shade. The shade. I mean, I hate that these two women are going at each other. I wish they could get along. But I also do feel very lucky that we got to be just a mere 10 feet away from when this feed started because it started on the Watch What Happens Live where we were bartenders.

51:52Yeah, I mean, look, I think Paige totally has the right to go blech to Craig when he said that stuff because it's not like the first time he said it. He said it so many times that now Paige has to say increasingly like sort of rude things to get it through his skull that she's not interested in that. Like, I'm sure in the beginning when he said, like, it'd be like really cool if we had like a family and kids would be really cool. And she's like, oh, that's like really nice. Like, I'm not sure if I'm like necessarily like looking for that, but like it's something we could definitely talk about.

52:25And then by now, like, he's like, so you definitely want to have a family? No. You want to have a family? No. You want to have a family? No, Craig. No, I don't want it. It's disgusting. Stop it. Never say it again.

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