


This episode is a recap of the second part of a two-part series covering The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City (RHOSLC) trip to Greece. The hosts, Ben Mandelker and Ronnie Karam, delve into the complexities of the relationships between the cast members, particularly focusing on Bronwyn and Heather's interactions regarding Bronwyn's marriage and the group's dynamics. The hosts provide commentary filled with humor and critique, showcasing their love-hate relationship with the show's drama.
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0:21Hi everyone, welcome back. This is part 2 of a two-part recap. If you're wondering where part one was, well, go check in the feed and be sure to subscribe. So that way you always get your episodes. But enough of that. Let's get right back into the episode. So Heather's like, last time I heard about Todd, he was looking at lingerie pictures on his iPad and sleeping at a hotel. So now they're happy monogamous and Bronwyn would never dare clutch my pearls. Thinking of hooking up with a Greek man. I just, I can't keep it straight. so she's like well let's be fair she said Bronwyn I noticed you're not wearing your wedding ring is there something you want to announce and you were like well Todd moved out and I was really hooked into that story Bronwyn are you taking back the story I really loved it yep uh-huh and I'm not wearing my wedding ring today uh-huh and I don't wear it a lot of times because I wear different jewelry all the time so I don't really know what you're trying to prove here so that was all a ruse that that whole conversation you had with Whitney?
1:20No, no, no. You might have added two plus two and gotten five there. Well, you know, maybe it's your math that's off when you're just trying to repeat the things that I said. I think you got your math wrong. Two plus two equals five. Yeah, unfortunately, no. Well, just to be fair to Bronwyn, the conversation - It's a race to the bottom. To be fair to her, the conversation really was Bronwyn saying, we don't have an open relationship, but I'm open to having an open relationship. But even in that conversation, she was so wiffly waffly about what she was saying. It sounded like she did have an open relationship, but wasn't ready to admit the open relationship.
1:51And her and Whitney were kind of talking around the fact that they're both probably fucking other people at this point. But they wouldn't go that far on camera. So the whole thing was kind of confusing. But also, even though I think Bronwyn's being a liar and she's being ridiculous and it's getting on my nerves, I still am like, Heather, it's not really your business. Like, she can talk about that when she wants, you know. Agreed. And you're right. Bronwyn said we are open to being open we're open to having I'm open to having a conversation but that's just too nuanced for the likes of like Heather and Whitney they just hear like open that's all they hear so um it's just it I guess it's funny because sometimes she's totally inconsistent sometimes where she's like like girlfriend here's how it is and I said to Todd you better get to the motel am I right high five everyone and then suddenly she's like she becomes muggy she's like we're not going to talk about that it's true everything's fine yeah it's true and the the reason i'm going to still kind of stay on her side even though i think she's full of shit and they're right is because once again here we have someone kind of refusing to do what they want her to do and so they're going to turn on her in public right so we have whitney who's like because now she's mad at bromwin for releasing the the information about the relation the conversation she had had with meredith so it's just what they did with meredith They're like, Meredith, you want to come against Lisa with us?
3:16And she's like, no. So then they turn on Meredith and say she's a drunk on a plane. Then you've got Whitney going, OK, well, I'm going to talk to you about this thing I'm about to do to Meredith, accusing her of being a drug addict. And then she goes and tells Meredith. And so now we're going to get you about your open relationship because they could be asking Whitney the same thing. Like, who are you fucking? You were sitting there talking about an open relationship, too. yeah I also think that there's probably an element where Bronwyn does not want to discuss any of this in front of Lisa Barlow because Lisa Barlow was the one who was like Todd's like cheating and like farting while making out and I don't think that she remember because that was like that broke the truce that they had made so I also think that like maybe she would be down to like go into this more if it was just like Heather and Whitney and Mary or I don't know or whatever but I think knowing that she's in the presence of Lisa who's gonna like use anything you say in her mind use anything you say against you she's like i'm not talking about this here at this table this is yeah this is not up for discussion right now yeah well i mean don't bring it up my gosh so whitney's like well yeah but at this point it's not so much about the details or the story it's what does brahman want us to think because she put all this out there about a relationship and now she's back piddling so i'm just kind of like what happened and what's real
4:41Whitney picks up a pillow is this real what about this chair is this real it's like okay you don't have to question if everything is real am I in the metrics so Mary who's oddly the voice of reason this season which is super weird but I'm into because she's so funny so Bronwyn you can't pretend like it didn't happen I mean when you say stuff and you put it out there it comes across Yes, there's trouble. And then you come back and you bring it back up. You can't pretend like you don't know what we're talking about or you don't know what Heather's saying. And she's like, but I know what Heather's saying.
5:13But I didn't say to Heather that Todd moved out. I didn't say that we separated. I didn't say that. I didn't. I didn't. I just insinuated. Your words were, I asked him to leave and you didn't say it in Greek, which I did not appreciate. But that's true. I mean, she is kind of playing the Meredith fight where she's like, well, I didn't technically say that. She didn't. she didn't say they separated you know and she didn't say he moved out she said she kicked him out when she got mad at him and he had to stay in a hotel so um angie's like trying to harp on it and heather's like but you said it to the whole group am i reading it wrong well this is just like so weird this is so weird that i came to you guys like i came to you guys like really honestly and i don't have to explain anything that happens in my house i'm like that's the point is that you came to them honestly and now they're trying to like kind of be gal pally kind of like hey We're following up on what you said.
6:04And now you're acting like you never said in the first place. Yes. And that's true because it's just crazy because they're all wrong. So many times. This isn't even that's true. But again, this is Heather being like, um, I'm going to take one thing you said and now make it sound like you're going to be openly fucking guys in Greece. You know what I mean? She's taking like, I got mad at Todd. And if Todd wanted an open relationship, I'd be down for that. She's taking that into like, why, you know, who do you want to fucking Greece? She's taking it to a whole other level. And then when you don't agree with her, she's like, am I the only one hearing this?
6:38Am I taking crazy pills? Well, kind of, because you're exaggerating something that's not the truth. Bronwyn, I was not there, so I didn't hear any of this. I also am hard of hearing. Okay, just want to remind everyone. But I've stood in your shoes, so I support the position that you're in. But from my past experience, this is probably not the end of it with this group. I'm just telling you that that was my experience. And maybe next time you might want to pack an easy breezy blinger. That's it. Not only will it not end, you're going to start seeing TikTok dances about Todd wanting to look at porn on his iPad.
7:22There was no judgment on my end. I mean, you were very open about it. Oh, no, you can judge me. That's fine too That's fine I'm totally like Chill with you judging me As you can see I'm totally totally chill Well What I want to know is If Lisa Barlow's Gonna hook up with The Greek guy God look at that Bringing levity to situation That I made tense And Lisa's like Um you know what John is Russian German Joe And I'll just stick with that That's like enough That's like three different Kinds of guys That can buy me a Porsche I'm like So sick of Greece So um Now they go back to the villa and they have to be ready at 645 because they're going to go shopping and go to dinner in town and everything.
8:04So everyone's getting ready. And Heather knocks on Mary's door and Heather's like, okay, all right, let's close the door for this conversation. I don't know what's going on with Meredith. For someone that I feel like I have such a good relationship with in this sisterhood, it blows my mind that you make little cutting comments and call me a liar and never really truly apologize and make it right. We just move on like nothing ever happens. Could you just make that shorter? Sure. So I'm coming into your room to enlist you to have a fight with Meredith by proxy so I don't have to. Oh, okay. Got it.
8:41Yeah. So we're at the same. Jesus, I'm bored. It's like, oh, my God, this fight's so stupid. So Meredith has pulled Heather aside. She wants to talk one-on-one, but Heather's not interested in one-on-one because she says that Meredith will twist and turn anything she says in progress. and make it into something else, which is what I've been accusing Heather of this whole season. So I'm like, okay. Heather wants witnesses, and she also wants to have the primary fight of the episode. Yeah, and she wants everybody to fight Meredith for her because if it's just her, she's not going to win. She needs everybody there beating the one person down.
9:18That's how she rolls. So Heather's saying basically by not engaging with me, she's actually dismissing my friendship. And Mary says, well, okay, well, then say it to her face. I mean, you need to be more direct and tell her how you feel because she listens to you. She goes, well, I don't know what to say to her because I've been so direct. And she takes it as a personal attack. I mean, every single time I tell her that she's, you know, totally unreliable and she's a monster on a plane and she should have been locked up by TSA. She just take that as a personal attack. It's ridiculous. It's crazy.
9:45I like how she says Meredith won't engage. She's engaged with you every single time you brought it up. You just don't like the answer, which is you're a liar. and so mary's like well i was raised to tell people how i feel and be honest but i don't think that these women are capable of being able to just say how they honestly feel just because they worry about things that don't matter like other people's feelings just kidding i'm a preacher did i just say that okay so now everyone's ready except for lisa and angie's ready to go because like and angie wants to go out to the town the sun will be setting it'll be beautiful blah blah blah and but Lisa's still in glam and she's like we are on the other side of the world and you've got people here to powder your nose it's a reflection of what Lisa feels is most important in life not what's on the inside but what people see on the outside this is Angie's new thing that she's doing this episode like she says it like 10 more times she cares about the outside not on the inside but doesn't don't you realize the best part of spanakopita is not the phylo it's the spinach and the feta.
10:48So they all get into a golf cart and meanwhile Lisa's just in glam like, make a Greaker. Give me the Greekest makeup you can. I just like put Suzuki on my eyes. I don't even care. I want to be the Greekest person at dinner. Lisa's never been happier. She is sitting there. She's getting, someone's putting makeup on her face. She is like so happy. She's like, oh, I love that. Show me your brush. That's a nice brush. That's a really nice brush. Wait a second. What do you have there? Is that a pencil? Can I see the pencil? Oh, my God. Such a nice pencil. You have a Cartier watch? I know you didn't because you're not a copycat.
11:18I love you so much. So they just leave Lisa. And now they're walking down the street in Greece. And Whitney's like, should I put my thumb out? Wait, maybe that's offensive in Greek. And then she just falls. She just falls. She wipes out. So, like, actually, I am impressed that, A, she didn't rip anything. she didn't have any like scrapes or wasn't bleeding i mean that was like she wiped out half on asphalt half on gravel i mean i feel like and and of all the times that heather could have made a joke be like wow she's so unsteady in utah we should have known that when she came to greeks wow where are the greek gods to help her now i mean she was sliding down to hades with the way she felt i mean like this is like a heather moment she didn't even say anything so some hot guy comes and helps her up and Whitney's like Heather a Hawkeye came and saved me if you were driving if you were one of those motorists and saw Whitney wipe out for no good reason on the side of the road like could you even imagine could you even imagine just seeing Whitney wipe out on the side of the road I would honk she's like I want to wait everyone I want to I want to do this is my new visual presentation of what happened to Wild Rose Beauty.
12:37Ah!
12:40Why haven't we mentioned Prism? Where's that? So, I'm just curious. Why haven't they mentioned that yet? Is Prism part of the Wild Rose? No, because Wild Rose Beauty is a beauty product, and then Prism was the jewelry line where she was buying everything from Alibaba and then marking it up times 200 or whatever. That was last year's thing. so anyway angie's like or two years ago i don't remember so angie's like um i wonder what lisa's doing now she's probably still in glam and heather's like how long does it take to do glam and they're all like oh my god it took me two seconds and when he's like yeah i did my own glam with heather's makeup like oh yeah you guys are all so ridiculous you all do glam just stop well to be fair whitney does look like the joker she has like her lipstick going up to her cheek yeah i know i don't know that i would trust all of your own glam anyway look at britney britney looks like she's doing kabuki theater over there she's got like a completely white face and then the rest of her is like tan so heather says i mean i would hate to be crippled with that type of insecurity about my physical appearance that i would arrive alone but clearly confidence and insecurity are not a problem for lisa barlow i'm like heather have you like you're on your 30th face i don't i don't i want to support people doing what they want to do for the for their faces and their insecurities but like stop acting like i mean we've heard your story about the bolero jacket okay your entire your entire your entire personas about insecurity and how you've meant been made to feel insecure by the mormon church your whole industry is built on insecurity your entire empire is built on just stop just stop it right now i was cracking up at that just heather like with that face wow like how people's insecurity so sad now this here's what i will say i do love that by and large they you know like roni salt lake city by and large the glam is not a major presence like on roni they didn't even have glam squads really i don't think until um um ebony showed up and she had like a glam squad that remember in the basement like ramona's basement or something but like uh i you know as opposed to beverly hills where it's just like endless endless glam squad you know the glam squads i believe single-handedly ruined beverly hills and um that's really all i have to say about that i don't really have anywhere to go with that except like let's well it's like i think you're saying like normally it's you know you would be complaining about the glam stuff too if it's overdone but like in this case it's hilarious because lisa's so attached to it and like when they showed the clip of her being in palm springs and refusing to you know not bring her glam person being like i have a glam person in saint tropez i have a glam person in capri i have a glam person in angie's porsche like everywhere
15:41it feels sometimes like it's all she has yeah like let her have it let her have it yeah um so well it's also funny like like it's one thing if you say like i don't like that lisa is putting glam in front of like this friendship moment that we're all having we're all gonna go out together and she's putting glam before us i think that's totally valid but to be like she's so insecure sure that she has to have glam i'm like um let's let's um please secure people don't go on real housewives in the first place let's also let's also be honest so um heather whitney britney and i say this as an insecure person myself hello well i'm insecure do i need to talk about the flat feet again i'm going to botox tomorrow i'm on the ozempic like i've got my my upper bleph done listen i'm i think we all have it to a degree it's just hilarious that someone who's had that much work and it's done to the point that it's gotten now where it's to the point now it's like self-harm you know at this point it's like you're looking like a child's toy stop it stop doing this to yourself in the name of insecurity you know people who live in glass med spas shouldn't throw wrestling it's time for a commercial it's time for a crappin's commercial
16:58Anyway, they are walking around Santorini. They come around a corner where there's this really scenic view where you can see across the island. It's like this beautiful shot. The lights are coming on and everything. And Heather decides that she's going to cry because she knows it'll make a nice moment. And Angie's like, Heather's the friend that you want to take on a trip because she values the moment and she feels it so deeply and she is so grateful and she just takes it in meanwhile heather's like there's the guy with the flamingo i see him down there i fucked that guy no you didn't um she's just so grateful and she just takes it in and that's what i wanted for everyone that's what i wanted for lisa oh yeah you really wanted this nice moment for lisa then why are you on her ass every scene of every episode I wouldn't come early if I was Lisa either I'd stay nice and cuddled up With my glam girl too You guys are relentless Fight with somebody else And also don't forget her glam girl is from Athens So pretty cool So then Meredith Bronwyn and Mary are shopping And Mary's like Meredith I feel like you and Heather Have hit a rough spot Well I don't know I mean I have to presume Everything's fine Because I called her after last week And she didn't call me back So if she wanted to talk, I would think she would call me back.
18:21And I said something to her also today, but she hasn't seemed to want to do that. So it's okay. Like, if she doesn't want to address it, that's fine. We can move on. But as far as I can tell, I'm kind of a bucket-shaped face trying to reach out to another bucket-shaped face. And she's acting very square-faced at the moment, if you know what I'm saying. She's like, you need to be vulnerable and talk to each other. And so then we go to Heather and Whitney and Angie and Brittany and Lisa comes up. And she's like, oh, my God, look at you guys. Hi. Hi. How are you? Love that. Guess what? I'm basically Greek now.
18:54I am Greek. I've been all over Greece. It was amazing. Did you guys see the sunset? Look, I took selfies in the sunset. And it's so funny because while they were showing the ladies, like, oh, my God, we're bonding. And Lisa's so shallow, not bonding at all. It kept cutting to Lisa walking by herself, just taking selfies at the sunset. Or, like, taking selfies in front of the store. Just having the best time of her life. I can't figure Lisa out like what really matters to you, the glam and the material things or your friendships. I mean, you guys are all shopping right now. I don't know if you're like angry that Lisa's missing out on shopping in Santorini.
19:29Like, I can't believe she cares about material things more than us as we shop for material things. Yeah, exactly. I love that I got to explore parts of Santorini by myself because I found some killer Birkenstocks and there wasn't any negativity. You know what? I love a little me time and it's great because the Burks were like the only style that's ever been sold of this particular Burke. So I'm already, I've already got Burks that are better than everyone else's Burks. My Burks are great. I love her Santorini Birkenstocks. So Lisa is like, yeah, by the way, like, look, I use this as like glam and spell.
20:06Like, look at this. Is this nice? Like, it's me. It's a selfie of me. And Whitney's like, is that your wallpaper? Yeah, make it of my wallpaper. So we can keep seeing it. isn't that great of course she has a selfie of herself as her wallpaper well did you see any me any beautiful views yes i did i just showed it to you it's on my wallpaper stupid so angie's like i mean the fact that she would be what two three hours late and then be in sunglasses that's just odds i mean i do think that sucks i don't i don't like that lisa showed up three hours late to like a shooting and also being with your friends like that is like i think that you i understand wanting to have alone time but you use the designated time for your alone time i don't know i think three hours later too late i do that i think three hours trips where i'm like okay i'll see you later i'm gonna do this other thing and then i meet up with my friends later and no one no one yet has how to fit about it.
21:06I feel like on, on like a group trip, if I say guys, I'm going to do my own thing. It's like, fine. I kind of feel like on a real housewife show just being like, I'm going to go. I don't know. I, I don't know. I, I think if you, if you're going to be like, I'll meet up with you and then you're three hours later. I don't know. I find that that like, that's like oddly disrespectful versus like, Hey guys, I'm just going to do my own thing for this afternoon. Cause I need some downtime. I'm like, sure. Do it, but don't make me feel like you're showing up like 20 minutes later but yours can be three hours later you know well if it was three hours because first they said two then it became three it's you know as well as salt lake city timing i'm just saying well i think she was saying i'm gonna go to dinner i'll meet you at dinner so she met them at dinner so look i just feel like they're all ganging up all the time so i'm just gonna give levity because they're not at all ever it's like constant it's just fucking constant so i'm like just do what you want i don't blame you i you know what it is i i I love when someone is like realistic with me about when they're going to meet up with me.
22:08And if someone says, I'll meet you out there. If I'm like excited, like if I'm like, oh my God, let's all do this thing together. If I've arranged something for us all to do together and someone says, I'll catch up with you. And then they don't show up for three hours or not at all. Like that bothers me. It really does. And I, it doesn't take away from the fact that like, I think there's a way to be like, I want to have, I'm just going to do my own thing. Like I'm totally fine. If someone says, I want to do my own thing, but don't let me think that you're going to be participating. in the thing that I'm arranging.
22:35Did she? And then do your own thing. Yeah, I think she did. I think she was like, I'll join you guys. Or like if Angie said, we're going to meet at 645, and she says, okay, sure, but then she has no intention of it. Like, I don't like that personally. But I'm not going to say that. Oh, okay. So they go up to dinner. Did we see Lisa say that she was, what did Lisa say? Nothing. She was in glam. She's like, bye. Okay, bye. They're like, we're leaving you. And she said, okay, bye. I don't know. I don't think it's that deep. But I can see where you're coming from, how that would get annoying. Well, as someone who has been flaked on a lot by people in my life, it's a trigger for me.
23:14Okay. Well, you're allowed to be triggered. Okay, so then they go up to go to dinner, and Meredith is like, Oh, well, Angie just wants to make sure we stay skinny. That's why we're climbing up this big hill to go have dinner.
23:32beautiful blazer thank god for the blazer so then um uh we see that uh meredith has also bought a bracelet for heather as a peace offering a necklace this box it's a necklace and you know what it's scary because we all know what this means this is an evil eye necklace and anybody who watches real housewives of orange county knows how dramatic this actually is well so this is what i was confused about because we see in the flashback that she's getting um like the evil eye thing but then when she gives it to heather there's no talk about evil eye and in fact heather's like it's an h so i wonder if she changed it up before she purchased yeah maybe one of the producers was like we've seen orange county don't do it so she's like okay i'll get her an h instead for hassle
24:22Hassle for heezy ha breezy ha blazer. So. Hossy.
24:31For how do you know how loud I was on the hair plane? And so Mary's like, it's a peace offering, Heather. And Heather's like, well, should I wait till everyone's here? Can I open it now? It's an age. And Bronwyn's like, yep, she's trying to make up with you, Heather. That's what she's trying to do. She goes, well, it's not going to work, but it is a wonderful gesture. I feel like she's treating me like the woman who's been cheated on. Just give me a few gifts without being specific about what it's about, and we're going back to normal. Okay, so the waiter comes around and gives everyone a blanket, and they're like, oh, thank you for the blanket.
25:10I like that Meredith didn't take it. She's like, no, thank you. My outfit is pre-chosen by Chloe. Thank you very much. I thank you for the offer of the beautiful blanket, but as you can see, I already have a blazer that's shielding me from the wind. Thank you very much. Oh, look at Lisa. Just getting all the love here in Greece. The Greeks are taking such good care of her. These are Greek blankets. Aren't they different than normal blankets? There's just so much more to see. Can you be on time tomorrow, Lisa? And she's like, okay, I can be on time tomorrow, I guess. Ha. I didn't know there were mosquitoes in Greece.
25:48And there's a big one across from me. I just want to smack it. Mosquito reference has nothing to do with anything. No one was talking about mosquitoes. But, like, it's kind of a funny joke if you think about it, right? So they eat in silence because they know it's fighting time. So they're all just, Bronwyn especially, is just looking around like, okay, who's going to fight? Please don't make it be me. Please don't make it be me. and so mary's like okay well heather came and asked me to do this so meredith and heather gay are you guys okay you guys should talk do it now do it before appetizers just go so heather's like well when i opened my necklace and i put it on which i love meredith bronwyn kept saying it's a peace offering from meredith yep i did say that yep yep i did say that well you seem very i don't want to use the wrong words but tense with me and i said well i'll bring her a gift as a peace offering because if i do seem to remember they gave many gifts in the feature film crazy rich asians which i did watch and i think that's a nice thing and if you don't think it's nice then don't keep it but it's up to you i mean i was just trying to be a nice person because i think we can all agree i'm a nice person on airplanes and on land i love when meredith does like her um victim shrug thing where she's like, well, hands up.
27:08I'm just trying to be nice. You don't want to, you don't want to keep it. I'm just trying to be nice. You can leave it. So Heather's like, well, first of all, I'm not rejecting the gift. I'm just saying let's talk about it first. Well, I wasn't looking to do it as a group, Heather. And Andrew's like, well, we are here and we are Greek. And Meredith's like, well, I called you and I reached out again this morning. So shrugging hands up, I did everything that I could do. She wants to start this with the group to rile people off to start on me again. And it's clear that Heather doesn't have respect for our friendship.
27:52So she just stays very calm. She's definitely doing the what? She's doing the like, I'm just being a good friend, being innocent, good friend, good, innocent Meredith. she's totally doing that thing like well you know i you know i tried to buy her a yacht and she wouldn't accept it so what else can i do i actually think meredith is being fair here i mean she's she tried to call heather heather wouldn't call her back then she tried to talk to heather get time alone with heather heather wouldn't give her the alone time and then heather's going to be up here acting like meredith hasn't even reached out to me she hasn't even tried to make it okay which is not true she has twice and you've ignored her and so now you're gonna try and make her look stupid again in public so i kind of like that meredith came with this attitude and she's like i'm gonna stay calm and the most i'm gonna do is bug my eyes and struggle a lot with my hands up i don't think meredith is at fault on this at all but i just think it's funny because last time she was just lying y 'all are liars and here is a pee cup and you're gonna see if you did drugs Now she's like, well, I just want you a gift and, you know, I just love like the pivot to like, like I'm going to be friendly Meredith now.
29:01So Meredith is like, well, Heather, it's not something I can address as a group. It's just not. That's when she goes from the shrug and the hands up to the I'm going to lean forward and tell you in my best legal expert voice. This is unfortunately we cannot proceed right now. We're going to have to have a special hearing. So unfortunately, we can't do this in front of people. And if you don't use your fork properly, you can leave the table, young lady. She's giving that look like, do you want to push money at dinner? You assassinated my character after I assassinated your character. And that dejected our history and our friendship.
29:40No, I did not. I did not. You did, and my loyalty. You dejected my loyalty. No, I did not. I'm not sure how to speak to somebody like this. I've never been in a situation where it's just like a stone wall of denial. I'm like, uh, Jen Shaw. Newly freed Jen Shaw. Your best friend of three years that you stuck up for until the second she was in prison. That one. And Meredith is like, um, that is not true either, Heather. And it's so funny watching her stay calm because you can see under like veins popping out. And Heather's like, well, that happened. that happened you questioned my loyalty while i was trying to get whitney to call you a drug addict and she's like well i'm saying that my feelings were hurt well my feelings were hurt too and i apologize and you apologize so i don't know why we're still talking about it he was very very i was very very hurt by you calling me a liar only i get to call people liars well i did not call you liar.
30:50Well, I felt like you called me a liar. But, you know what? Everybody makes mistakes in friendships, and you can't constantly hold people to this crazy standard that you don't even hold yourself, and that's exhausting. Are you talking to me, or are you talking to Heather? Whoever I'm not going to get in the most trouble with is who I'm talking to. Yeah, it's a little ridiculous that Heather plays Judge Judy in every situation. She's like, you're the bad one you did this you're awful and i'm a better friend to yo and it's like why the fuck are you judging her so harshly why are you peeing on her leg and telling her it's raining everyone preaches i want good friendships and i want to be god and i want people to be god to me but be good to everybody like just what you preach oh my god that was like as good as like when i said the thing about mosquitoes you guys hear the mosquitoes thing i said was so funny my athens girl she laughed so hard so lisa's like well why is it okay for you to express your feelings but not meredith and heather's like i'm not just like being a yes man anymore part of that trust is saying listen there's a huge problem when have you ever been a yes man you've been doing this the whole time you just call yourself a yes man but then you go against everybody and say that you're such a good friend to them as you're ripping them to shreds on national tv hey bye lisa's like listen i know how you feel heather wait a second can meredith speak for herself Yes, yes, yes.
32:13You speak for her. Yes, you speak for her, Lisa. No, I don't. But, like, you guys had, like, a miss over there. Like, you guys missed something over there. Okay, you guys had a miss. Whitney's saying, can Meredith speak for herself? You were literally just in her cabin asking her to go against Lisa for you and Heather. So, quiet over there. And, by the way, while this is going on, Whitney is really working on her eyes. She keeps, like, pushing her eyes and, like, putting a napkin in her eyes, trying to muster up some tears. And I was like, what is she doing over there? Which we see soon. So then Heather has a monologue because it's Heather.
32:46So she's like, we I ride hard or die for Meredith from day one. And when she brought up that tick tock, I completely defended you. And then the next morning at breakfast, you came in guns a blazing. And I said, listen, you're freaking out over a tick tock. And there's much bigger bombs placed in your lap that you've chosen to ignore and look the other way. Okay, so now you're mad because she's mad over the TikTok when she hasn't been mad over other things. Why wouldn't she be mad about a rumor that her husband's fucking around that someone's bringing you onto national TV? What bigger bombs are you talking about?
33:20And she's like, and then you chose to pick this TikTok as the reason to annihilate your friendship with me. No, you chose this TikTok as the reason to annihilate your friendship with her. It's just frustrating. Heather has this giant monologue. I feel like I'm watching something else. Heather has this giant monologue I feel like you're using it as a reason To annihilate your friendship with me With Whitney and with Brittany And you are selective about what you have Outrage for So she has this whole big thing where she's like Sticking the landing And Meredith just looks at her and just goes I don't agree with you I don't agree with you So she's like Okay and if you want to hold a grudge Against me over it then that's fine that's up to you but like how are you flipping this on me this isn't on me heather this was something that happened between her and britney britney let it go everybody has let it go except you and whitney who will not stop you will not stop let it go everybody's let it go but you she's like oh my god how is this flipping on me i'm not holding a grudge i'm not lying about you you said you misspoke and i misspoke and we met in the middle well i would never do that to you when you hurt my feelings the way that you did i would never just be like you misspoke i misspoke i thought we'd moved on but apparently you're so petty that you haven't you haven't i thought this was actually exactly how she and whitney dealt with their fight in season three but that's okay so at least she actually called you to go hang out and talk about this so no she's not just saying i misspoke you misspoke let's move on she actually saw that you hadn't moved on and tried to make an effort further effort with you and you refused so that you could have this little breakdown in front of everybody at the table honestly people need to get crap is on demand because to watch you ranting and raving right now while bueller's legs behind are stretching and doing some sort of like synchronized swimming over your shoulder is like the funniest thing of all time you're like add another thing about heather gay she's saying this and then meanwhile you just see these two little paws behind your shoulder like doing like Like Bs and Ys and Xs.
35:29He knows we were talking about it. Yes, we were talking about you. Gorgeous man. Gorgeous creature. Alright, let's land the plane. So Lisa says, Heather, I feel like you do things that are hurtful to me and I don't know why you do that because I'm not doing anything to you. Ha! Cry! I'm invested in our friendship and when you said things like that, that you said at Vultures, you know, mean things. Remember when you said mean things? And basically it was Heather saying like, don't be bitchy. Don't be bitchy. Well, you don't be bitchy. Don't be bitchy. Well, you don't be bitchy either. Oh, I just would never do that to you.
36:04I would never do that. It actually hurt my feelings. So then Whitney, now we see why Whitney has been working up her big fake tears because she acts like she's crying now. And she's like, well, the bigger thing that we're dancing around is we're protecting something that happened. And I just feel like I see it so clearly. I'm watching my friends fight. And we're all fighting because of the way that you treated Britney on the plane. And I don't know why. You can't just say I fucked up because I just feel right now. It's like, Britney, I already did all that. Britney and I spoke and we worked at home.
36:43Look at the table right now. Look at it. It's a rectangle. Isn't that amazing? A rectangle table. Okay, you want to literally look at the table? and the people to look at it. Well, Brittany, did we work it out? Brittany, would you like to say something? So Brittany's kind of like, well. Brittany's like, I'm not saying shit. She's just sitting there like, mm-hmm. She's like, I signed a document that said we are good. Okay.
37:12So Brittany's like, well, what clearly has happened, Meredith, is you messed up, but we're all paying the fucking price. What price are you paying? And she's going to cry. You bring it up every scene. Stop. And she's like, I recognize your behavior. So now she's going to cry and insinuate that it's a dad thing again because of alcohol. I mean, she's too much, this Whitney. I can't. And what are you having to pay the fucking price for? You're the ones who keep bringing it up every day, every scene. So Meredith's like, well, she's been the monster in this group from day one. She is the cause of every problem.
37:45She projects everything she does onto everybody else over and over again. And we let it go and give her a free pass because she's always on a healing journey. I don't think you have a problem, but I think you're the problem right now. And Meredith goes, well, everyone at this table has done things probably much worse. And on that note, I am going to stand up and move this easy breezy blazer to a different location. They're like, wait a minute, Mary. Meredith, are you leaving? Wait, hold on, hold on. And Heather's like, well, I'm obviously in trouble for saying how I really felt. And she's not going to say anything because she wants to support her.
38:28And then Whitney makes a scissoring gesture like. Yeah, because they're like scissoring. And then Brittany giggles at it. She's like, oh, my God, that was so funny. So. But now they're going to reframe everything that just happened. And I'm going to end up apologizing again for ever having an opinion. I feel worse now than I did when I came to dinner because I've been victimized by Mormonism and Meredith.
38:53ridiculous so she's like yeah you know i just this reminds me of where i'm at in rank of like importance oh god poor insecure heather gay here's where you're at you're at a very high level of annoying get something else to talk about none of this even involved you yeah so that's where it ends the first episode of the greek trip and i'm sure this fight will be revisited about 10 more times before truly oh my god meredith on a plane all right everybody thanks so much for being here this has been a good time we will be back um are we doing oh yeah we'll definitely be back next week look at me already making it christmas break i'm like well see you later see in the new year everybody goodbye i wouldn't mind guys we're off for the rest of the month i would love it no that is not the case uh we will be back next week and we'll be back the rest of the week with more recaps.
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