#3114 RHOBH S15E02 Part 1: Whine, Lose, or Draw

0:21Hello and welcome to Watch What Crappens, a podcast about all that crap on Bravo that we just love to talk about. I'm Ben Mandelker and joining me today is the one and only Ronnie Karam. Hi, Ronnie. How are you? Good. How are you doing, baby? I'm great. I'm just glad that your name is not Todd because otherwise we may be going through a divorce because the Todd's on Bravo. They are not, not lasting, not lasting at all. Wow. Did you see a rough time to be a Todd? Yeah, rough time to be a Tajita. I have to say, I got a text from my brother a few nights ago, and he was flying through Salt Lake City.

1:00He was connecting, and he texted me. He said, hey, this guy is sitting behind me on the plane, and it was like a picture of Todd. Like Todd, Bronwyn's Todd. And I, of course, lost my mind. I think I sent you a screenshot right away, and I was like, oh, my God, oh, my God, oh, my God. And, of course, my brother had no idea really who he was, but his girlfriend recognized Todd. So he was like, yeah, there's this guy. And, and, um, and then like about half an hour later, my brother was like, every time he gets up to go to the bathroom, he grabs the back of my seat and uses it for leverage instead of using the armrest.

1:35He's like, I'm going to fucking kill this guy. I was like, of course, Todd is one of those people. Like, of course, Todd grabs a chair. So my brother was like, I'm just going to recline right into him. He like, he put his chair down. I was like, you do it, Dan. I was so happy for him. But that was some great, great reporting for my brother in disguise. And I'm like, I'm just like so mad. I'm so mad that Todd does that. And yet I'm so unsurprised. Of course, he's a seat puller. Yeah, but why isn't Bromwood sticking up for Meredith then? Because that's what Meredith did when she was shaking Brittany's chair.

2:09I'm convinced of it. Damn it. Your brother, I need more from your brother, okay? I mean, I like that information. but I was texting you. You need to tell him to ask some questions. Like, what the hell are you getting divorced or like pass by him and see what he's looking at on his iPad. You know, I know I was like, that's, that's the shame of it. If Dan were sitting behind him, he could have looked at all the girls that Todd was probably flirting with, but alas, that's the thing. And it's such a waste when non Bravo people gets get in that situation because they're like, behind a Bravo person.

2:42They text all the Bravo people, but they do nothing of worth you know like i need you to do some recon you are there you do you don't understand this is a huge chance sir like we need to train our friends bravo watchers need to train our friends how to deal with situations like this like i don't need a selfie of you in the person i need you to get the dirt well i think this e-pulling was a pretty damning piece of dirt i have to say because it really speaks volumes i mean it just it says everything everything about this guy right Right. Like we should have just always known that that was his that was his MO in life is to grab onto your seat and pull you down.

3:18So that way he can get up and pee somewhere. Yeah, he's probably like if he had hair, he'd be one of those people who like luxuriated his hair over the seat back into your seat. And I will pull those people's hair. I won't pull it. I won't pull it with my hands, but I will put my iPad up against it very hard and be like, oh, sorry, I was home. Sorry. Did that hurt? and I was just trying to watch my film on my seat that I paid for. You freaking hip. Get your stringy hair out of my seat. It's shocking that people do that. It's actually shocking that people cascade their hair down into my seating area.

3:56And it can get into my drink if it's long enough. Yeah. It can also get into my iPad creases. There are no creases. I'll close the iPad cover on it. That's what I'll do. The magnetic cover. and then just like, oh, putting in my backpack. Sorry, does that hurt? Washer hair. I feel like I'm going to start carrying painter's tape or something. And so that way, next time that happens, I'm just going to take some tape and tape the hair to the seat. So then when they try to get up, they're like. Well, that's assault. So see, you have to do things in a tricky way because you can't assault somebody. But my iPad didn't know.

4:31I mean, I was just resting my iPad. You see, you have to be tricky about it. what if I attach the tape and those little tape loops or get some double-sided tape, attach it to the seat first. And then when they cascade their hair down, their hair attaches to it. And then that's not assault. They just landed. They assaulted the tape. It just started on fire. How about that? How about I just started to bring a lighter on the plane? All right. Anyway, the point is we're here today for Real Housewives of Beverly Hills recap. Monday at 4 p.m. Pacific time is our Amazon live time. So we'll be doing that.

5:02And also this Monday will be our final crappy hour of the month of the year. It's going to be at 530 Pacific time. So join us for that. You can find links for both of those things over on our Instagram in our link in bio section. And today is Real Housewives of Beverly Hills season 15 episode. Episode two. Is it episode two? Oh, shit. God, we've got a long season ahead of us. Episode two. long season yeah yeah well we're off to the races again well with this show we're off to the races with how kyle is a victim uh this yeah i'm a little as a victim this time so let's let's go to it what are you concerned about this show i don't know uh i know it's early it's early but i'm like is this what is this what the season's gonna be like it's not a rollicking start that's for sure no i'm still you know i still was giggling and enjoying you know enjoying it and i still love to talk about it but yeah it's definitely a valid concern because yeah yeah it's just a lot of the same you know it's kyle still wallowing in whatever this is whatever she's doing or whatever it is the whole like closeted gay dating star whatever they're doing like i get it, but it's also 2025.

6:29And I'm so I'm annoyed on so many fronts because I'm annoyed that we live in a world where you would still find the need to be closeted, but we do live in that world. So I'm not going to take that away from Morgan or Kyle or anybody else who's in the closet. It is a huge thing to contend with. It's not like you just come out of the closet and like, oh, that's it. You're just another gay and that's it. Your whole life does kind of become that, You know, you're the gay friend. You're the gay uncle. You're the whatever. Whenever there's a conversation about gayness, you're the one who has to speak on it.

7:02And you're found. You know, there is a lot that comes with it. There is still a lot of hate and a lot of bigotry and stuff like that. I don't know why I'm going on a whole monologue about it. But I get I get the closeted aspect of it. The other part of me is like, but you are the one that brought it on this show and made it a thing. Nobody else did. you're the one who brought it on and made that music video fed her your you know did your feeding each other at your your friend's memorial service which was highly inappropriate that whole scene anyway so part of me it's like why do i have to watch you cry about it you know what i mean like are people dealing with real issues yeah i i actually 100 agree i kind of feel like like we we obviously don't have any issue with being closeted in terms of like we understand it right but it was actually like a weird it was the the way that she was so coy that whole season about it all maybe maybe not but she was also bringing it around but then like was being elusive about it and then it's going to come on the episode here and kind of like blame morgan for it and i just i'm like morgan it's one thing to say i'm with someone that doesn't want to be in the public eye and is uncomfortable with it.

8:12Sure, fine, we've seen that a million times on Bravo. But then it doesn't really explain this feeling that we had during that season where Kyle seemed to be really enjoying the benefits of being kind of like in this, what at that time felt like a queer adjacent space, but then not actually being part of it. I don't know. It was a... I don't know if her explanation today fully lets her off the hook. I appreciate her. I appreciate her for finally addressing it in that way. But also, you can't blame it all on Morgan, you know? Yeah. Well, I mean, yeah. The whole thing is just a little. And also, you can't do this whole thing about Morgan and then come on screen dressed exactly like Morgan.

9:04Did you notice that look when she was in the tie? Hold on, I got a picture. You mean Lisa Vanderpump? well like that i mean she's like going i think full-on gay girl right she's like a lesbian i actually really like i think gay i think gay women were doing that before lisa vanderpump but no but just in the in the uh if it was a pussy belly the long timeline in the long timeline of kyle dress of kyle taking from lisa vanderpump here's another another moment however i i actually actually thought it was really good on kyle it does look really good but my point is my point is that she shows up like you know she steals everyone's look she comes on dressed like lisa vanderpump all the time like you just mentioned she's like a copier and she came on with this woman's hair and her look oh wow first picture when i looked it up like look at that that's the exact same hair even i mean the color is different because kyle has a different color hair but i was like okay so now you're gonna cosplay as morgan while you tell us all not to talk about morgan Like, give me a fucking break, Kyle.

10:06I just there's only so much I can take, you know, and I know that it it it goes close to being insensitive to people who listen, I'm a gay person. I support gay gay men and women and everybody. I support my whole community. OK, but there comes a point where it's like, OK, but you're also baiting us at the same time. So you need to kind of pick a lane here, lady. Well, the good news is I am glad that she has picked her lane finally. And she's, you know, and she is being more open and honest about it. but um is she though yeah now she's saying they're broken up but i don't know that are they broken up like i just don't believe i don't believe anything says i don't know i just i don't i think there's a difference between wanting to respect your partner's privacy and also like you can still be honest with your like with yourself at the same time i i do appreciate like if you were on this journey and you're not quite comfortable you know like with yourself on it etc but sort of like you said she kind of brought it on to the show she was like she was you know before there was mauricio you know in the law of like every single hotel lobby in los angeles there was kyle kylan morgan and like every single gas that's the other thing that's the other thing because it's not only the gay thing it's the whole mauricio thing as well it's like you're the one who was kind of cheating on your husband with this lady publicly and bringing that i mean so then why am I crying for you at the same time?

11:28It's just basically a Kyle conundrum. You know what I mean? And now it's mixed up with homosexuality and all this other stuff. But on the whole, the issue is Kyle. It's not the gayness. It's not the closetedness. It's the Kyle choosing to share things or not share things and lying about things and misrepresenting things while she's lecturing everybody else and screaming at everybody else, open and honest and this and that, which she mentions today. Like I'm the one who's always saying open and honest, but I just can't in this situation because I respect the gay community. It's like, okay, but stop bringing it in front of my face.

12:03I guess for me, what is frustrating is that she really has literally run people off the show for not being quote unquote open and honest. And here she suddenly was willing to see shades of gray of what open and honest could suddenly mean. I mean, I always go back to the Denise and Brandy thing. She really invoked a lot of gay panic in that entire storyline and sent Denise, you know, running. I mean, Denise is the master of her own choices, right? But ultimately, like, it was a little bit of a witch hunt and sort of whipped everyone up into a frenzy about that. And I also kind of feel like, honestly, if Kyle had just said, yeah, I'm seeing a lady now, I think it would have been met with like, oh, okay, maybe a shrug.

12:43Maybe some people would have said, well, maybe some people would have said like, oh, you're doing it for attention, whatever. but like it was the it was actually the the continued like oh elusiveness elusiveness of of her and the way she's being coy about it like what no i mean i don't know what look like we just got tattoos but it's just like it's not it's not an m it's a w that stands for a woman or whatever it was and um i just i think that's what's like very frustrating is the hypocrisy of kyle and the way she treats other people who try to similarly protect their peace and protect their partners and then the way she was so you know like what was clutching her pearls that anyone would you know ask her questions and got to the point where she actually told the entire cast you're not allowed to even invoke her name which was all of last season and then yes and then we have to yeah sorry go ahead no and then and then we're supposed to like praise her for finally being open on us It's kind of like, well, I don't know.

13:45Yeah, I think she could have avoided this by saying, listen, I'm. And my husband has put me through all kinds of shit over the years. And because we still don't even know what happened there. Did he cheat? Did he not cheat? She is. She's she insinuates things, but we never know. So, OK, so my husband treated me in a way I didn't like. We're separating. I'm exploring my sexuality. I'm dating people, but it's no one serious yet. And I'm not ready to talk about it. The end. But instead, it became this whole. How dare you even ask me? You know, you're not allowed to ask. people in the gay community and blah blah blah blah blah and she made she made it about that and that's what's starting to piss me off because the people in the gay community have enough shit to deal with without you using it for fodder and for um you know attention it's annoying it's annoying but granted i'm annoyed by kyle anyway so yes i also have to admit that that comes from a deeply rooted 12 year long or 11 year long.

14:41Cause I loved her first season, uh, kind of, uh, TV grudge, a parasocial grudge. So, right. I mean, again, I, despite my complaints, I, I am appreciative that she has now gotten to a place where she can be like, okay, this is the situation. Um, but she'd still can't even, if I remember correctly and we'll see when we get through the notes, I don't think she's even able to state that it was a woman. she was in a relationship with i think she doesn't use any pronouns i'm saying this person this person this person so she's still being really vague and i guess that's what's so frustrating about me i think i know she in her mind is like i'm being protective but actually you're you're just once again and obfuscating a situation and it's like it can be frustrating it can be frustrating when she is the one who carries this banner and like and truthfully like a housewife that decides to like dabble quote unquote dabble in the lady pond i mean this is not this is not new territory for us okay we've kim zolciak dated dated dj what's her face years and years ago so like you know we don't have to be we don't have to be coddled in this situation yeah yeah okay well there's that um i think i've got like a popcorn kernel stuck somewhere in my mouth but I can't find it.

16:04So that's probably Kyle's fault. Damn it. I know it's here somewhere. I'm sorry, everybody. It's time for a commercial. It's time for a crappin's commercial.

16:15Let's start at the beginning. I'm sure we'll have a whole year to bitch about this. But also, Kyle's not the only one. Erica's dating somebody. She hasn't brought him on yet. I think she'll bring him on later. Did they show him on screen at one point? Maybe in the preview or something. I got it, by the way. so people it's not like it's new on this show that people don't want to share you know but as a whole it's getting kind of annoying it's like you're asking us to watch a show for the 12th year but then you're giving us the laundry reasons of shit you're not going to share and like sad excuses why you're not going to share them stop it open and honest all right let's get into it shall we we open at rachel's house she's talking to kaius because i think the other one maybe doesn't want to be on screen it's all kaius all the time i don't want my son thankfully not eating any kind of cereal yeah he's not no thankfully the mouth nothing is flowing out of this mouth nothing is spraying everywhere kaius has to go to camp he has to go to camp uh he's gonna go away at a sleep away camp so it's like bananas where kaius has to go yeah so boz comes in and we get the usual well, you're gorgeous.

17:20No, you're gorgeous. No, you're gorgeous. And she's like, I love Boz's energy. I love her positivity. I love her fucking fearlessness. We are such an odd pairing in so many ways because we are so opposite in the way we approach things. She's scared of nothing and I'm scared of literally everything. It's bananas. I'm scared. When I say I die, it's because I'm afraid of dying. I have a real fear of hurting someone's feelings, which does hurt me sometimes because I should hurt people feeling sometimes, including my ex. So they're catching up. And this is so funny to me. But Bo's goes, so how's life?

17:59And she goes, paralyzing. It's like paralyzing sometimes. But also it's refreshing because I make decisions now and I don't need to wait for some man to make decisions for me. I mean, this is wild. It's like literally wild. I died. I literally died telling you that. But like paralyzed. By the way, could you feed me with a straw? Like, it's hard. It's hard. Lift my wrist. I was, like, living in an anxious state with, like, shields up all the time. I don't know how, I don't have walls. Walls are, like, so 2009. I have shields. To the point where, like, I feel like I was walking on eggshells about things that, like, were, like, can you put, like, my carry-on in the overhead?

18:36Like, you know, things like that. And, like, I can't lift it. And I felt like I was being annoying because it was, like, fucking Jekyll and Hyde. Look, honey, here we are in a plane. no, I don't have to put your fucking suitcase in the carry-on again. All right, let's just have a nice ride together. I just love her version of Jekyll and Hyde. One minute he's okay with putting my suitcase in the carry-on slot and the next minute he's not. Who even are you right now? You know what I mean? But I can also totally imagine Raj being super pissy about carry-on. I can imagine him being like, Rach, you always pack so much.

19:13I can see him being a real dick about it. So Bo's like, speaking of that, I thought it was interesting when we started having the conversation about the photos that have been circling and all that. And I don't know that I got your opinion, but like, if I saw your ex in the press kissing somebody, how would you feel about that? Or if you saw your ex, even worse. And she says, well, I did. And Bo's is like.

19:37Yeah, I love Bo's level of shock at everything in this episode. Just like, yeah, it's funny because like no one really cared. It came out in the Daily Mail and it was like really funny because like people like saw and were like, oh, cool. But they weren't like, oh, wow. They're just like, oh, cool. So they just like moved on. So it was like weird. But it was like cool. Yeah. And please remember that I have kids that are 14 and 11. Okay. And for me, a lot of it is like, I mean, are you okay? Are you unwell? Like, what the fuck are you thinking about? I mean, I can't imagine anything more fucking indiscreet than being photographed on the sidewalks of Los Angeles with your arm around your girlfriend.

20:16that nobody even knows about. I mean, that was the thing. It's like, not only are you dating somebody, you're dating somebody non-famous in Los Angeles. That is embarrassing. Caius has to go to sleepaway camp. Yeah. Like, what about your businesses? What about your team? What about our investors? What about our companies? What about our kids? I'm like, I love that kids was at the end of that list. It's like team, businesses, team, investors, company. And like, Caius, like, what about Caius? yeah i don't understand their business structure but why do investors care if your husband's dating somebody but they don't care at all yeah probably maybe that's a scandal maybe a scandal could be bad for the brand yeah but it's a good episode for kyle because she's like what about our company our kids i mean hide hide so she's like yeah but you know like i didn't understand and it really did upset me you know and kyle's like well i just haven't dated when i said you were dating she was like no and pose goes and you were like whoa yeah i was like whoa so by the way like it's okay like you're maybe she's not ready but like ever like are you gonna date ever like what the hell regardless of who kyle's seeing the truth about the fact that you're seeing somebody or exploring other options could be a safe space for us to discuss versus a total shutdown and then the wall that says no i'm not doing anything and then it's like i'm sorry are we friends or are we not totes because there's like speculation about what's going on kyle is she dating somebody is she not is she trying to get back with mauricio is she not and i think people have asked her that like question but kyle is out there dodging them like the damn matrix so it's the damn shame bose and garcelle didn't get along better or they didn't hit it off right from the start because they would have been a good team because garcelle's gone and bose is like okay i will take up your mantle thank you very much i will continue coming after kyle about who she's dating yeah so uh boz is like that's why i'm just like look if we don't want to break that barrier that's fine with me but let me know so i can spend my energy energy elsewhere that was so good so now we go to mauricio's house kyle shows up and uh he's got this like you know mid-century house up in the hills and everything and she's like wow this is like beautiful like you acted like you're living in the slums he's like no no i never said i was like living in the slums just like i just have like a tiny little you know starter house that's it just this you know four million dollar house it's basically like a shack that's it oh why do you think i need so many towels why are you bringing me like eight more towels kyle it's like um by the way these towels are for our daughters not for any of the skanky hoes that i've seen you with okay so they had agreed that he was going to lease a place for six months and then they would have a discussion about their relationship after but he went straight from that place and then leased the house without even talking to Kyle so what the hell she's like we didn't even have the conversation about potentially fixing up things in the future I was like that was my storyline this season hello you've been pretty steadily dating somebody for a while this is this is the other thing that's making me crazy like you've been dating someone for a while why is it like poor sad kyle who might have had a chance to put it back together with mauricio i don't get it yeah so kyle's like um did the girls tease you about the photos that came out just kidding i already know what they said i'll just say it though marcio's like yeah there was like a little bit of teasing i mean they told me that i'm in my hostage yeah that was so funny the hostage six seven am i right sorry it's just what the kids say okay well this place looks like it's on fleek so he asks if she's gone on any dates and she's like um like she gives him this look like how dare you you know i'm not gonna talk about this on camera and she's like well i mean um no no i mean i'm i'm single and he goes yeah but that's why you're allowed to go on dates she's like um well i haven't gone on dates and i mean i would not be in a situation like you sorry to say he's like you never know you know you get it going on you got the passion the whole thing wow she's like i'm yeah shut up shut up yeah but like um when you're saying that like you're also referencing yourself and i just like don't need to hear that marissa you're like okay fair enough so she's like yes i have dated since mo and i have you know and you know i have dated since mo and i have separated and but i can also be private and discreet and unlike mo we don't need to see that of each other and our kids don't need to see that and i don't feel the need to parade around showing it off i just feel the need to parade it around and pretend like it's not a parade it's actually just like people all in the street moving at the same rate and there happens to be a float in the street but it's not a parade and that's my prerogative yeah i mean i think when you separate you're allowed to see other people i'm not really getting this i mean i i know she's saying that too she just doesn't want to see it in the press but i mean you're famous i mean you also call him all the time so mauricio's like so how are you and she says um she had the girls over for a party and dorit was talking about how she was really mad about about the pk photos and that she basically blamed it on mauricio because pk was inspired by mauricio's photos and he's like well that sounds like so ludicrous to me And she's like, yeah, but like, she seems like angry.

25:48Uh, Tim? No, no Mauricio. She's angry at UPS. Of course at him. Like, and he's like, well, that's a vibe I get from her. But like, he's not angry at all, you know? Well, yeah, of course he's not. Because he's banging, banging randos at the ballet. He's the one that left her and has been banging randos and just left home. It doesn't have to take care of kids or do fucking anything. Of course, he's not mad. Why would he be? He gets everything. Yeah. He's like, oh, yeah. Like, based on my perception, she's got a little bit of a fantasy of what the reality actually is, you know? So now we go to Erica.

26:27What does that mean? She's got a little bit of a fantasy of what the reality is. Stop speaking in Kyle, sir. What does that sentence even mean? He's saying that she's deluded. That's what he's saying. He's saying that she has, like, her own version of reality. He's trying to be very polite about saying like she's cuckoo for coconuts. That's what he said. Because he's making up for the guy. So now Erica and Sutton go to a spa. And it's hilarious because this spa is just like right on Melrose Avenue. It's like right next to Lala's, which is like, you know, cute little Argentinian restaurant that people know.

27:01People in the neighborhood know. And it's just funny because it's like not a Beverly Hills kind of restaurant or stretch. And I just was shocked that they did not capture Sutton like getting out of her Uber and be like, oh, oh, dear. Oh, this is Melrose Avenue. Okay, am I going to be safe here? Oh, there's a man on a skateboard. Okay, run. Everyone get inside, lock the doors. Man on a skateboard. Well, she did look highly uncomfortable coming in there. She did not look comfortable. She was like looking around like, where the fuck are we? Of course, this is an Erica scene. You're bringing me to, you know, Fallujah or whatever.

27:35She's just like, where even are we? they're lucky that heather dubrow didn't pass by after grantly's class like hello ladies are you going to be going to la la's afterwards me neither so uh they tell each other how cute they are of course and sudden's like well erica and i have been through a lot in the past few years and um you know she's invited me for a spa day so it's Just me and Erica. I am expecting just a hose, some white rain, but I'm here. I'm here. Erica's like, yeah, this is Erica extending an olive branch. Take it. Although it's also Erica pranking son because the building next door is a restaurant called It's All About the Bread.

28:21That's not even a joke. That's really what it's called. It's a very triggering sign for us, ladies on Beverly Hills. Life story. that that is actually the biggest affront is that the restaurant on the other side of this place is called it's all about the bread because that's how la is that's those are fighting words for this cast you know but that's also very la that that uh crunch fitness used to be right across from the mcdonald's and whenever i first moved to la and i was on those stair climbers they looked out right over the mcdonald's la is evil like that they do show like my purpose yeah so Erica is extending an olive branch uh at this place where they're gonna get facials and so she's like did you have fun yesterday you and Dorit got along I noticed and she's like oh yeah I just wanted her to I just want to allow her some grace from being a crazy person and Erica's like yeah I think she'd really like that I can almost feel her energy a little bit so much so I almost started speaking with a British accent which was a little bit crazy I just feel her I feel her deep inside me you know I almost asked somebody for five dollars yesterday for no reason just so poor this is also okay i almost put thirty thousand dollars in a in a in a cart and just walked around a poor person store until i got robbed that's how much i was feeling her and then called it five different stores every time i told the story anyway those were good times so erica this is a classic erica scene where she gets together with sutton and pretends to be sentence friend right before she fucks her over it happens it's happened like three or four seasons I think it's so funny that Sutton falls for it every single time.

29:58Erica does not like you. Okay. She's going to take whatever you tell her. She's going to bait you into saying something and then she's going to turn on you. You dummy. So Sutton talks about how she went through her divorce. She was just surprised at every turn. And yet I was a mother still maintaining that kind of stability at home. So I want to be more open-minded and open-hearted with Dorit because I know that she's going through a really tough time and she's doing it in just. poverty so

30:28I know that you're so you're over everything with Tom right oh no I'm not over that I'm just heartbroken it fucking sucks knowing that the person that I'm being married to for that long and seen him in the courthouse and seen him like that and knowing that he's gonna die in prison and he's lost his mind and oh my god it's so heartbreaking yes sweetheart I'll have some oil lotion on my face for this facial yes thank you I love this, like, I feel so bad for him as she's just getting fully pampered in a spa. Like, it's terrible what's happening to poor Tom. It's just so heavy on any level. Well, are you going to, you know, say goodbye?

31:05I don't know, but I've thought about it. I mean, what do I even do? You go say goodbye. The fuck is wrong with you, you ingrate. Okay, that man was a monster, but you profited heavily off the monsterism. Go say goodbye. Right, thank you, Card, at least. I mean, get some free moisturizer from the fucking front desk and send it to him. Something. Something. So Erica's like, yeah, I mean, I said this to somebody the other day. I just kind of hoped he died before he went to prison. So that way he doesn't get over with. She really should get into the greeting cards business. Hope you die today so I don't have to deal with you tomorrow, you sick motherfucker.

31:46Hope today is the day you die Because it would be way worse if you wind up in prison And die there Have a lovely day Happy birthday do us both a favor Make it your last so I don't have to shop for you next year You fucking ingrate Hey happy birthday Glad you're one year older Now you can shut the fuck up Signed Erica Girardi on your bar mitzvah Get well never compadre So I've said that's how old he is he's 86 and said goes oh my gosh he's older than my mom she's like yeah and he's really not good health he's gonna die in there ashley darby is like um is he officially single yet because he's kind of my type actually darby's like now there's a man well i have thought about this to tom and is this where she's wearing her insane outfit she yeah this is this is what's she's here like express i've actually believe it or not i i do have empathy for what is empathy but i do have empathy for erica because it is a really it's a weird situation like you want to honor the marriage you have because it's not like he did anything like bad to her but he did it like according to her she lied about everything so there's that so it's like do you have a moment to honor the like the good times that you had with this guy uh because her whole story is that he lost his mind he had dementia and the reason why he did all these things was because of dementia so then do you like honor what you used to have or do you say this guy lied to me betrayed me i don't know what the answer is but watching her trying to like work her way through it while dressed in this crazy outfit with this like this wide brimmed hat and this it's like blue and orange and there's letters all over it as like why does this not feel like a contemplative moment she just looks insane i have no empathy for her i don't believe he lied to her or any of that the stuff she's still in trouble for is just so fucking vile and rancid she's a disgusting person and i hate this like let's try and put erica under a soft light i'll take it because i still love this show but i'm just shaking my head like are you fucking kidding me come on like how many of us were born a minute give me a break it's more like i have empathy for a situation like that i don't know if i i don't know if i care enough about erica to have empathy for her it's more like i have empathy for a situation where if you're in a marriage with someone and they it turns out that they have defrauded a lot of people like what do you do in that and they go to jail what do you do in that situation so it's more like the hypothetical the hypothetical of the erica-ness of it all in the situations before but according to her and and what you just said according to erica as you just reminded us it's the uh what defense the uh he was losing his mind like he had dementia okay so if your family member has dementia you just never go see them and never talk to them again that's crazy that's why it's it is literally that's a little weird to me it's horrible like Like, if we're going to just believe what Erica said, like, let's just pretend for a second I do.

34:54She says her husband has empathy. That's or he has dementia. That's why he does all these things. So she just lets him rot and die alone. That's shit. That's just shitty. Like, sorry. And I'm not standing up for Tom. I'm just pointing out that Erica is not this like angelic figure that we should all be lining up to feel bad for. Yeah, I don't. But what I will also say, and this is, again, in a theoretical Erica, this is this. this is not to get into consideration the stuff that you brought up about like the stuff that she's still in court for like i don't know if like her saying saying goodbye to tom's visiting him in jail like will he recognize her i don't know like is that actually going to be helpful to the situation does that actually cause matter i mean if you're if you're sure if your friend that you know whatever you maybe you have some issues with but somebody gets dementia and is sent to the hospital and you're like they did bad things when they had dementia i mean doesn't dementia trump it i mean i would i would visit your husband i understand that for some i understand that for some people it's like actually it could like they want to remember the person and the way that they were i think that like she just is like she just doesn't she's scared to see him like it's like i think she's scared to see this version of tom of like old behind bars, not rich, though with mind going, et cetera.

36:23And I think that's what it comes down to. Yeah, she's gross, I think. So she's like, well, I mean, will he even want to see me? Will he know who I am? Is it going to be a magical answer to all the questions? No. And I've realized through a lot of therapy that you're not getting closure. You got to close it yourself. Hmm. Was that like a message for the victims that she was sending? America scene it's just a run of the mill sociopath scene sociopath at a spa scene well the whole thing from the people and the victims what am I saying all of it to this to dying in prison it's just pure insanity okay yeah a little harder on the foot rub there that's just lovely thank you so much yeah and something's like yeah that is some pretty messed up shit wow I just use the sh word right on television that's how much I'm trying to bomb with Erica so Erica says that five years later and she's still fighting her way out because she's still got civil cases that are in motion and I don't know that I'll ever get away from this I don't know what happens to me you know ultimately in the end with her big hat and I know one thing that's not going to happen to her evolving her musical style don't say that tonality ever yeah tonality tonality is not a bus it just stops late in life you know so Erica's like well you know it's just a whole fucking disaster all the victims all the this all the that while she's getting like cold cream put on her face she's like oh god the victims and just the way it ended I mean god well I hope you get some relief I was going to put debt relief in there, but I took it out because this is a sudden's a good person season.

38:16So I'll just squint at you. I'll just sit over here squinting at you and nodding my head and not saying anything judgmental. I hope Erica gets some relief, too, because God knows when you're just lying there getting a facial, someone's rubbing your shoulders and you're just getting pampered all day long. Relief is hard to come by. So then we go to Dorit's house and her mother and father are there. so um she's like oh the fact that you've been here it's a game changer i can't even be at the thought of you guys going it just stinks not having any family here no not having you guys closer to me so her dad shalom was like you did the right thing you called us up we're here and so she says the last few weeks i've noticed something change in jenga it's like he's got the wheat of the world on his shoulders and we went to a friend of mine's for dinner and she had her father there and he was regaling us with stories of when he was younger and when he got home jack burst into tears and was telling me how much he missed his sabba and i said well we can get a different hummus brand he goes no grandpa oh that's what you've been meaning all these years yes sure i held him I heard him by over and over As he sobbed It took my soul right out of my heart Ripped it away It's a big Dorit acting episode So Rachel's like okay well we're gonna take them to Florida They're gonna have a great time Dorit Okay so yes to answer your question We will take the kids to Florida Oh thank god Maybe Jacob will return to me After he spent some time in Florida Florida.

39:56The mystical lands, Florida. So Rachel's like, well, not to change the subject to read, but as much as you are worried about Jaga, I'm so worried about you and your health. You don't get enough sleep. You don't get enough rest. You don't get enough nutrition. And you're dumber than a piece of wood. Where did we go wrong? I knew. And I feel it. I feel the weight of it. And that's saying something for somebody who slept under PK for so long. But, you know, P.K. used to handle everything, and now it's like he's dumped a lot of things in my lap without any notice. Noticeably, Jiga! Jiga himself! He handled everything, including other people's boobs.

40:38I've not had a conversation with P.K. to learn what he's expecting me to pay, or what he's paying. I just find out from the business manager, if he decides he's no longer paying something, and it lands right in my lap. Have you ever had an entire bowl of chicken salad land in your lap? that's what has literally happened ever since this happened commercials here comes one right now

41:06who doesn't pay for their chicken salad i don't know what's coming when it's coming i have to get a new business manager i had to get a divorce attorney and then she tells us so this was weird i don't know if you saw this circulating on the internets but um she says pk doesn't give me any money he doesn't give me any money he expects me to pay the bills and he believes he's doing more than enough and i don't even know what he's doing but the um where is it let me find it here but the captions were not saying that it was the captions were saying pk pays the mortgage and the school what do you think that's yeah the captions yeah i don't know the captions were definitely reporting something else which is and they do that sometimes do you think that's because they go back and they re-edit right before air and they haven't given it to the caption people yet yes yes or they forget to update the captions yet there clearly was a different edit of the show and they were like no we're gonna like not we're the original edit like gave pk credit for doing mortgage or something and now they're like no no we're not giving him that credits they're like smear him even further.

42:18Although I stand enough for PK. I mean, PK deserves what he gets. So, Dorit is saying, you know, I'm in fight or flight. I'm trying to be a mom and a parent from 13 different countries. And how you worry about me, imagine it's a hundred times more how I worry for my kids, Jiga. And the girl who keeps coming over. Tucson, is it, Sedona? Do you mean Phoenix? Oh, yes, yes, of course. The number one. Number one of Arizona. Now let's go to Kyle and Alexia shopping at Geary's where we all go to get our wedding stuff eight weeks before a wedding. So they're talking to the store manager who already looks like she's not buying their shit.

43:03She's like, hi, so you're here not to really spend any money and just take up hours of my selling time in my store so I make no commissions. That's amazing. What can I not help you with, bitches? I know. And Alexia is now entering her, like, little housewife of Beverly Hills phase because now she's wearing a little blazer. And they're here at this Geary's place where Kyle's like, well, this is my daughter, Alexia. This is tradition. I mean, I registered here. And, like, your aunts registered here. And everybody registered here. Tradition is, like, I feel like, you know, this is where we have Thanksgiving.

43:39Or, like, here's an heirloom. But not, like, where you register. this is this where we register is very important to us so basically it's a rite of passage for this family to register at geary's and um looking around this door you can see it's like very expensive china and glassware and housewares and all i could think about was how boring all this shit looked i am sorry for everyone who was duped into paying a premium for this i'm sorry it like Like, this could not, like, if you're, Alexia, you're 29 and you're going to get this stuff. Like, this is, ugh. I was like, no way. Just because that's a high price tag.

44:21And sure, it's probably a very high quality stuff. Let's not, you know, kid ourselves. But, like, ugh. I just was sad for Alexia's future when I saw this stuff. Did you have a reaction or was this, like, a Ben moment? Well, I thought it was stuff that I had never seen before. Like, they're looking at these, which, why would I? Not getting married. Not going to get married. Never been married. Not doing it. If you ask me for something, I'm sending you a 20. No, that's not true. I'll buy you the gift. But these gifts, yeah, they were really expensive. I'd never seen these plates before. They were really bright colors.

44:50Like one was really bright blue, and then there's a bright pink, and then a bright yellow. And then you're supposed to kind of mix and match them and put them on top of each other. I thought it looked very like units, like from the mall from the 80s. You know, it was just like really bright, solid colors. And I don't know. I didn't really get it. formal and like unapproachable and like it looked like it belonged in a different era you know it didn't it didn't seem like if i'm 29 like this is like this doesn't like represent me i feel like this like represents kathy hilton you know and i just was looking at it kind of like older older people stuff yeah and so it just felt like alexia is like cosplaying i'm on their website now and I'm just looking at all their stuff.

45:35And I'm like, I would literally never want any of this. Well, actually, some of the bar, the bar stuff is actually really cute. They have like a decanter for$2 ,800, which is ridiculous because you're going to put a$2 ,800 piece of glassware in a space where people get drunk. Okay, congratulations. Well, that's what I was thinking too, is it's just so, you're just so rich, honestly. If you expect people to come to your wedding and buy you a$2 ,800 decanter, I'm like, fuck you. Like, I'm not coming to your wedding. That's the other thing. Who do you think you're inviting to your wedding? I ain't made of money, but I think that's a class thing, right?

46:09Because I'm not rich enough to be going to weddings like that. I would never do that. I would never buy that.

46:18Look, here's the thing. So I imagine if you're registering, you have some aspirational registry elements. Like you have a, I'm registered at Geary's, but I'm also registered at like Bloomingdale's and Macy's or Nordstrom's. But I feel like if this is going to be the registry, this is like, like, I agree. Not everyone that's going to Alexia's wedding is going to be able to plop down, you know,$1 ,100 for an Orientaliano Orem tea service with Trey. And like, and Alexia is going to sit there wanting a tea service, you know, like, it's just to me when, when, as I look at the site, I'm really like whipping myself up into a frenzy and the caffeine is helping too.

47:01but like when Kyle is like yeah this is where your aunts registered and I registered and your grandmother registered I'm like that's because you all were poor and wanted the rich shit so you registered here so with the rich people you were trying to ingratiate with would buy you rich shit so now you could cosplay as rich people until you became rich yourselves yeah so I mean I guess that's what it is you know I just can't imagine being 29 and being like okay we're having people over to dinner pull out the$20 ,000 china. I just don't have any friends that I could even trust around that. It's just weird to me.

47:38It's just all the stuff I'm like I just would never want in my house. Thoughts of a non-rich person seeing this scene. I'm like, yeah, I don't get it. She's like, well, normally I would have Kathy come because, you know, tradition. But she's not here so I asked another out-of-touch rich white lady to come. Sutton's coming. So Sutton comes and she's like, you know, squitting around. And, um, Kyle says that the family's bad at planning. And the only thing they have eight weeks before the wedding is a rabbi, which that is crazy, especially in this town. I don't know that I believe it. Well, where did they end up getting married?

48:12I forget. Was it in like Kyle's back yard or something? I don't, I don't remember. Maybe they got married at Yuri's. They're like, well, can we ask you a favor? Oh, um, the$2 ,800 decanter will be saying your vows. So she's like, oh, by the way, want to hear how funny this is? Okay, wait, I'm going to stretch. So the girl that bought my Bel Air house, her name was Amanda, and I bumped into her at the Glen Center the other day, and she's also getting married, and she's coming here today. Yeah, isn't that amazing? Yeah, Amanda bought my old house in Bel Air for me, and for whatever reason, my followers were very angry with Amanda for smashing her beautiful floors.

48:51We see video footage of Amanda's man taking a sledgehammer to the checkbook. It was glorious. I was so happy. And you know, casting was like, get her on the show immediately. Cause if anyone can trigger Kyle, it's someone taking a sledgehammer to the floor. She copied off of Kathy Hilton. Yeah, I was happy. And the four people who they, they, whose names they put up on screen that were like, no, how could you do that? And we all know that those were, those were all Finsta accounts for Kyle's daughters. Let's be honest. Was this the house that had the bean shaped pool in the backyard? Yes. that was your the the pool that you absolutely hated i think this was the mean shaped pool i did hate that pool but i love this i love that house i actually like that house so much more than her current house i actually hate her current house do you what do you hate about it i've always hated it well obviously the neon art has been an issue but that's not a house issue i hate the hedges when they drive up i feel like they're too tall and too like they just make the driveway feel tight i feel like it's like formal and like not warm in there i don't know i feel like it's more generic it just looks like every other house whereas your other one was a little bit more like mid-century if i remember and i like the way it like spread out and i liked the backyard and i don't know i just felt like the first one had more personality yeah well um amanda's sledgehammered the fuck out of that personality and it was glorious to see so amanda comes and they all have Birkin bags.

50:20And so the price comes up of all these Birkin bags. And Amanda's just like half the price is the other ladies. And I was like, oh, Kyle clocked that. You know, Kyle clocked that shit right away. Kyle's already got like a list going of what she's going to get this girl on. But this is Amanda, everybody. Amanda, not really sure about Amanda. Her only personality trait so far seems to be like, is she wearing Invisalign or is she not? there's something with her teeth that there's very pretty teeth but i was like is there an invisible layer over them that's all i kept thinking the whole episode how about you i thought amanda was going to come in and be a hilarious bitch because in the previews she's like oh is she mad because she like played herself and like didn't mean to play herself but she did play herself in front of people who didn't play themselves and now she looks stupid because the rest of us look cool she said something like that in the preview and i was like yes yes queen and then she came in actually being a little bit more perky than And I was wanting, I was like, oh, so it turns out you're like nice and perky.

51:20Okay. I wouldn't choose the term perky. I think she seemed kind of dead inside, which I think is an okay quality in a person and a housewife. But we've already got Erica. I don't know that we can handle more than one dead inside. How about I revise it to perky presenting? Okay. Yeah, basic maybe. She's very perky. What'd you say? basic basic she's like look i have money now and i carry a birkin and you know i'm just like another blonde lady with the birkin and beverly hills she's like um a cb2 and they're gearies which is every all of them are dead on the inside a cb2 at least is trying to be fun yeah but she is bringing in fun stuff because she is sledgehammering kyle's floors and competitive Kyle is not going to like that.

52:11She's carrying a Birkin. We know competitive Kyle is not going to like that, even though Kyle won this round. And the third thing is she's also getting married. So now she's got wedding competition. So Kyle is going to hate this person. And I am here for it. Yeah, this girl deigning to have a wedding while Kyle is planning a wedding for her storyline is like a huge affront to her. so I think Kyle's just gonna bring it up like 10 more times that Amanda's in her old house as like a power play because she did do that to Sutton when Sutton stayed at her house she's like oh my god it's so funny because like Sutton is in my house right now isn't it funny because Sutton's basically like a renter it's like basically she's like a street urchin right I mean it's like hilarious that she's even in our group like is she even allowed to be in Geary's but she does keep saying like she's in my house she's in my house guys yeah she lives in my house it's like in this town oh we didn't do the we didn't do the opening lines we did i actually just pulled them up you want me to send them to you please do yeah in this town in this town yes i'm sending them to you right now you little tiger oh thanks for the article you sent me how matt didn't mince dungeon crawler carl became a blockbuster they've heard you talk about him a lot yeah i want to say something while i pull up these taglines which is that if anyone thought my rant about gary's was I'm like, fuck rich shit, whatever.

53:33No, I love rich shit. I love wealthy, nice shit. Are you worried that people with the stick up their ass brigade is going to come for you? No, I'm worried that people may think I'm trying to virtue signal some sort of like, eat the rich thing. I'm not doing that. I don't care if something's expensive, but beautiful and chic. I'm like, yeah, splurge if you can do it. I support it. I just think this shit looks old fashioned and they're, they're paying a fortune for it. And I'm like, why would you want this old fashioned shit in your house? You know, I mean, cut to like in 10 years, maybe I'll be like, take me to Gary's.

54:11I'm getting that plate, but also I'll be 57 in 10 years. And it will probably like be my vibe, you know, and I have become more like my tastes have become more and more. I love that. I love that. Like a scene has gone by and you're like, but wait, what are the people of Gary's going to think? No, I don't care. Like what if I'm rich enough to go into Gary? and I get that sales lady and she's like, I listen to your show and I know what you really think. You will get no pink plates here. Get out of here, you geary shaming. You know what? I hope they're listening. I hope they're listening so that way they know that we are clocking them for selling old fashioned boring shit at way too high of a price point.

54:50My only thing is I didn't want people to think I was trying to pretend to be some sort of like, yeah. like you know like because everyone knows i'm bougie everyone knows i love ina garden and all that shit so i didn't want people to think i was suddenly being fake i just was saying i think their shit is old-fashioned and overpriced okay all right okay opening line record corrected record corrected so um we go to the opening lines um and kyle gotta hand it to kyle for season 15 gives us a classic earlier i said season 12 sorry i'm stupid um but she gives us a classic In this town Oh yes in this town I fucking love it I love that she's still doing that In this town stars Come and go but diamonds Last forever Yeah and some I would say the same as some of these episodes Um Rachel Zoe says I die for fashion But now I'm living for me Right now I'm paralyzed but at least I'm Fashionable Die for passion Paralyzed for Jennifer Gardner.

55:55And Bose is, I turn ambition into an art form, and I am the masterpiece. Sutton Strax is, I might live on the main road, but I definitely bring main character energy. Hmm. Okay, so Amanda's... I feel like it's not constructed right. Yeah. Like, it should be, I might live on a main road... But I'm not a main something or other. I might live on a main road, but that's because I bring main character energy. Not like I might not a but or an and I might live. I live on a main road and I'm main character energy. Yeah, I might live on a main road, but I definitely know. And I definitely bring main character energy, you know, like owning that main road energy.

56:45Yeah. And then Amanda's is I didn't marry into money. I manifested it. Oh, God. Another fucking manifestor two times in a week on Bravo. They're shoving it down. And it's the same producer, by the way. It's Alex Baskin over there. Are you okay? Are you going to some kind of metaphysical therapy right now? Like what is happening with you that you're putting manifestors in front of our face all of a sudden? Yeah. Go take it to Venus on Vanderpump Rules. Here's Erika Jayne. Survival isn't my story. It's my superpower. Okay. Be sure to add you on to the Avengers. I wish he was just like flying through the air riding on the back of some old wrinkly man while she said that

57:31and Dorit I'm unfiltered, unbothered and friendly and burdened

57:40not by then you're not yeah, yeah, exactly so those are the lines basic, you're basic basic your basic basic clients basic okay so we're still meeting amanda so um amanda is getting married she's going to be getting married in october and suddenly's like oh you've got a lot of time she goes yeah i found the venue but that's all i've done so far well how'd you find the man that's what's important to know she goes oh yeah he chased me down the street in west hollywood and she's like in west hollywood what am i doing wrong why even in the gay place this woman found a man in five seconds what the hell uh maybe chase you down too it's just for selfies you know it's just not the kind of guy you're looking for it's a bunch of gays like oh my god what happened to avi i won't tell anybody sudden sudden i think i think what a sudden you might be doing wrong is that you have a perpetual look of fear on your face when you see other people what get them away for me they're gonna attack so amanda says the night i met eddie i'm I'm walking towards Santa Monica Boulevard with my girlfriend, and I walk by this really cute tall guy.

58:51And then next thing I know, I'm stepping into the street, and he's, like, right behind me making witty banter and asking to buy me a drink. I'm like, you're in West Hollywood. It was a gay. Just so you know. She's like, there was someone behind me talking about Beyonce and how, like, he's in the beehive. And, you know, I turned around, and I was like, what? Is this a manifestation of my dream man?

59:15Yeah. And then he found out she was rich and was like, okay, I'm in. I mean, can we live by West Hollywood? Because if this really is a straight guy that she's marrying, fuck off West Hollywood. Like, this is what happened to West Hollywood. You know, like Lisa Vanderpump is like, what happened to West Hollywood? This, this happened. Okay. Straight people finding love in five seconds. Okay. Gay people are the people supposed to find love in West Hollywood in five seconds. And guess how long it's supposed to last? Five seconds. It was West Hollywood. even straight people are having love scandals i mean sandoval and raquel making out at the abbey like that's not fair yeah but they stole the abbey from us years ago yeah yeah that's really true so she's so this guy comes out and starts like like i guess left like ran out of a bar to go chase her down and she was like i remember thinking why do i feel compelled to like put my face on yours i just met you i mean from not like a slightly horny place just from like a why do I feel like I love you with my face on your face?

1:00:13You know? Yeah, I just had to put my face on his face. I mean, it wasn't sluttiness. He was just so well moisturized. He's gay, Amanda. You found a gay. Okay. But yeah, I really wanted to marry him because after, I mean, I know he respects his mother because he came out of a place called Mother Lode, which was just so sweet. He was so tall. Admittedly, once he took off his heels, he did lose about six inches, but still very tall. Yeah. Yeah. And he says he manifested me and he's a better manifester than me when I'm kind of known for manifesting. You know, I mean, I don't know if you know that about me, but I'm known for manifesting.

1:00:51This was a Michael Kors purse before I walked into the store. OK. And when I'm kind of like known for that, because he decided that night he was ready to meet one, meet the one. And then I like walked by him within an hour. Maybe he has like some deadly disease or I don't know. I don't know that I'd want to be with someone if they were like, I told myself today was the day I was going to find the one no matter what. And then you walked by. So you're it. You know, that's all convenient. But, you know, it's like when someone's looking for something and then they find they finally find it and they say it's always in the last place you look.

1:01:24I'm like, yeah, because you don't keep on looking after you find it. So it's like by by nature, it always has to be in the last place you look. I just found my keys. They were in the last place I looked. what i think of how stupid that sounds you're so stupid like congratulations but um uh so i kind of feel like when people make these announcements of like i knew tonight was gonna be the night i mean i i appreciate the manifestation journey and it's very fun but like the truth is this person probably said that like every night and then finally his number hit and it's just you know it's cool that it hit but like let's not overthink this i don't trust anybody who makes millions of dollars off other people through manifesting.

1:02:06I mean, you manifested it for yourself, which is great, but you also manifested somebody else spending 10 grand on your workshop. You know? So, I don't know that they're... I'd like to check all the people that spent all this money on your workshops, because let's see how much they are. I think they're like a lot of money, these workshops. Okay, what's her name? Amanda Seyfried. No, Amanda... Francis, right? Amanda Francis Workshop. She's got a firsty firsty. Okay, go ahead. Oh, digital courses. Here we go. I found it. Our most popular digital courses from Amanda Francis, money queen app. And you can tell she's like really rich and fancy because she wears her sports coats over her shoulders, but not with her arms in them, but just love that.

1:02:49I love that flex. You know what I want to do? I want to wear, I want to wear a blazer like that and just walk right by Geary's and be like big mistake. Huge. Even though you click on the first one that's called money mentality and And it's her wearing diamond boots. It's all in pink, of course. Getting out of a G-Wagon with her shoulders covered, but not her legs. And on the ground are thousands of hundred dollar bills that she's stepping all over. And here's the course. Do you feel like there's never enough money for you? Are you paralyzed with fear at the thought of money running out? Do you feel anxiety when thinking about your bills?

1:03:25Okay, this goes on for a whole page. Or do you simply feel there's room for improvement in your relationship with money? I like that she just gets down to like not granular at all. It's like, do you feel like you could be making money out of your elbows? Okay, would you just maybe like more money? Okay, this course is for you. At least I used to. Well, at one point in time, many of these feelings, beliefs, and realities were very, very true for me. I've been there. And then a big cursive. It's like, and it sucked. So then we see, where are the prices, Amanda? This is a lot of talking. This is literally like seven pages of text.

1:04:01this is so blatantly a scam i'm actually it i actually love it i love how it's just unabashedly clearly a scam this is the biggest scam since drop it withdrew i'm just gonna tell it say that right now this is so obviously um like i'm you're gonna come to a hotel ballroom and sit here for three hours i'm gonna take your money and you will not be changed whatsoever Okay, the core system to heal your relationship with money is$15 ,000. The money mentality, which is higher than I even thought. So good for her. The money mentality makeover course modules, and there is nine modules,$2 ,000. So I guess that would be$18 ,000 if I'm doing this right.

1:04:46The MMM peer support community is$564. The MMM workbook and transcripts,$500,$497. bonus drop the struggle video series value$3 ,300 I mean good lord girl then it just it just goes on and on so yeah I mean she's manifested many all right she has manifested for sure and I'm on the on the tab that says vibe membership it looks like there's like a community and what's really cool is that like um if you scroll pretty far down you can get the quote I'm in the vibe affirmation cup I mean, I thought this was a scam. But then when I saw that you can get a cup that says I'm in the vibe, I'm like, wait a second.

1:05:30And the cup is one of those cups that's like shaped like an aluminum can. Those glasses that have that they're like, they use the can as a mold. So it's just like, guess what? I'm in the vibe of a can, but I'm a glass. Yeah, it's a vibe. And so on one side, it says I'm in the vibe. And on the backside, this is what it says on the backside of this glass. I'm reading it directly off the glass. Say it with me. My vibe is pure. My vibe is potent. My vibe does the work for me. I align, I receive, I expand. Life loves me. Money flows to me. Opportunities chase me down. People love to pay me. Everything I desire is already mine.

1:06:01Everything works out for my good. And in my favor, always. I move with intention. I trust my power and I create my reality with ease. My success is inevitable. My abundance is limited. My essence is magnetic. I get in the vibe. I live from the vibe. My vibe creates my life. All the love, Amanda Francis. She got on a glass. This lady is absolutely full of shit. I love it. And it's all on one glass. And the picture says, I'm on one glass. It's all, that's one glass. You guys, we just gave you a whole course for free. So I'm looking at this tab just cause I thought it looked funny. Cause all of these pictures are her like, look how rich I am.

1:06:44Like this one, she's wearing a real shiny blazer and an expensive person, leather pants. And she's wearing pink high heels on a tennis court. because that's what rich people do. They play tennis. And it says, turning shit into gold in big cursive. Pain into power. Deep doubt into discernment. Longing into love. I'm not going to lie. I'm an alchemist. I want and says I can't. I'm taking this course. Should we see if we can just get this course for free? I want, is it only for women? I'm woman-leaning. It's going to be for us. Amanda, listen. Someone who's friends with Amanda, tell her to listen.

1:07:20And then I don't say I just want the glass at this point. I'm not even lying. It's a glass. Here's the thing. She's very smart. It's not just a glass that's on the website. It's a glass that's filled with cold brew and a metal straw. I mean, see, this is like, if Gary's had this, hello, I would register for something. I'm like, I don't know, register for Sunday. Like it's my, like it'll be a Sunday. That's always full. Give me some cold brew in a glass that looks like a can that says I'm the vibe and has a 30 ,000 word dissertation on the back of it. It's only 15 grand, but you get a coffee that never, ever empties.

1:07:58My vibe is pure. My vibe is potent. My vibe does the work for me. I align, receive, I expand. Yes, life loves me. Money flows to me. I'm going to do this. I took a screenshot. I'm going to memorize it and say it every day and see if I get rich. Let's do it. I also love that at the top of the page when she's addressing to try to like get you to join this membership. It starts with her saying, hello, my love. I'm like, I know you're not a hello, my love person. We've seen you on TV. Yeah, she's Yolanda Fonger in her asses. Yeah. I love this for her. I love this obvious grift. It's like really exciting to me.

1:08:35Yeah, you go to the one that says meditations and it says, hello there, wealthy woman. I like the cursive. It'll say like, hello. And then in big, giant, girly cursive, it's like, wealthy woman. Period. She's into grammar. I actually, I noticed her grammar is very good. She has her commas in the right places. She's like, when she says hello there, wealthy woman, she doesn't have to include a period there because it's already so stylized. But she's like, no, there will be a period. That attention to detail, that is a manifestation. Yeah, so she's full of shit. I've read so many of these self-help books, especially when I was younger.

1:09:10I used to read them all the time. And this is just exactly what it is, you know? just exactly that vibe so as someone who's given those people tons of money part of me is resentful but the other part's like well i mean it's going great right hey everyone this is the end of part one of this recap for part two keep an eye on your podcast feed it is coming up in just a moment thanks so much for listening catch you on the second half watch what crappens would like to thank its premium sponsors ain't no thing like alison king it's always a party on alison block Our way is the Amber way. It's the Foster and the Furious.

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