#3119 Crappy Hour 12/15/25: Our Alison Roman Empire

0:21Well, hello, and welcome to Crappy Hour. I'm Ronnie. That's Ben over there. Hi, Ben. Hi, Ronnie. What's going on? Tell us what's going on tonight with you, you little buttercup. Well, I am very excited because, A, it's always fun to do crappy hour. This is our last one of 2025. Another year has passed. But we are sending out the year with a big bang, a big old bang. First of all, there's actually some really good headlines, which we will get to a little bit later. But first we have to welcome to the stage a very important person. Please welcome writer, cookbook, impresario, and general icon, Allison Roman.

1:03Hi, Allison. Hi. Hello. Welcome to the stage of Crappens. I'm so happy to be here. Yeah, we're so excited to have you. I own, you're one of the only cookbooks I own. What a thrill. What prompted you to buy one cookbook? Well, because I got obsessed with you over COVID and learned how to cook so many of your recipes. And also, I had started so late with you that I got to see so much of your evolution, your different apartments, stressed out in so many different tiny kitchens. I will be stressed out in any four walls. Put me anywhere and I'll stress out. That's a nice stress room. And I guess we should promote your new cookbook, by the way.

1:47You didn't even ask us to do this, but I'm doing it especially because I coincidentally am wearing the book. Matching it. You're both matching it, actually. This was not even planned. I just put this on because it was like the closest sweater to put on today. And then I was like, guess what? I'm wearing the colors for Something From Nothing, which is like the sweater. But this is your cookbook that just came out like about a month ago, right? Yeah. it's like basically a month ago which feels like it's been out for 5 000 years because you talk about it for so long but like yes it technically speaking came out november 11th so just um fun fact about this this book came out november 11th and then like two days later we went off to bravo con and i literally brought this to bravo con i'm like you know my new alice and roman cookbook is here and i'm just like not gonna go off to vegas and let that thing sit back there so i was literally on the plane to con with like cast members like like nick um danny and nia from the valley were on the plane and like there were some other people jen fessler from real houses new jersey and like i don't care that there's bravo liberties on this plane i literally brought this on the flight to vegas and i sat there reading it to get myself makes me so happy you know what's funny i feel like there's probably no place safer for me than like bravo con like i can't i feel like the the crossover is is nary you know like you are the concert like this is the center of the venn diagram but like most yeah most reality like celebrity genre type people i feel like are not dipping into my whatever you know what i mean i what i have to offer yeah my oopra i think there's like a lot of bravo fans that are alice and roman fans for sure yeah bravo fans for sure but not bravo leopard what do you call them bravo leopardies yeah well the whole reason why we like created this while we while we reached out to you is because i saw a picture of you with heather gay i was gonna say heather gay is the one exception but i think she sort of found out who i was like tangentially like through friends and was like she seems awesome like versus like oh my god the stew you know what i mean yeah so you might i'll take she took my breath away i mean really yeah she's amazing i love it so no other bravo lebrides have ever really reached out to you or anything like that no but um did i i probably didn't i don't think i said this at the la show but um or ben you were famously um but i did i was approached in i want to say summer of 2020 or 2021 it may have been 2021 yeah 2021 um i was approached to i was asked if i would consider perhaps auditioning yeah i was gonna ask you you would be perfect for this i would be bad no you would be perfect because this one isn't like loony cartoony older women like it has been for years this one's like they're like younger influencer cool chicks yeah but i would i would so not fit in and i would get in so much trouble because i just would not i couldn't i don't think i could do it no that's what it's about yeah they break you down allison they would break you down because you'd get too rattled and then they'd build you up you'd you'd become a superstar tell you do it do it do you think do you think you'd be too honest and you'd hurt people's feelings or do you think people would be like mean to you and you would cry probably neither because i i'm smart enough to not like quote be too honest um even like in the in the like room where it's just you and the kid it's like no of course that's not you can't say anything there either you can't say anything anywhere but i think that i would i would quickly like get worn down in the spiritual level like i would be like this is not and i can't be myself and i'm i'm a bird with wings that are clipped and i i i have to fly and i can't fly here no they clip your wings on that channel and then your wings come back bigger and stronger you know maybe you know honestly in like 20 years maybe that's my final form but but right now i have too much living to do i have too much living to do in our current whatever you know yeah it would bravo would definitely you're right it would like it would Bravo is not known for elevating people's spirits, like making them spiritually grow.

6:23It definitely is like a one way direction that you go in once you're on Bravo. It's definitely like spiritually downward, you know, downward spiral in many different ways. So it definitely requires a certain sort of fortitude. But like Ronnie said, if you can like get through that, you can as an interesting form afterwards. Yeah, I think I would just stick out really. I think it's like I was kind of shocked. I wasn't insulted, but I was surprised that somebody thought that that would be a good fit for me. I wasn't insulted. You care. I was. Yeah, I think it's like one of those movies about basic training, you know, like an army movie where they're like, oh, whatever pussy you can do on your knee.

7:03And they're like screaming at you and like beat you and run through the rain. And then you come back and you're like, Colin, what's his buns in that CIA movie where he's like all hot? And then he can see out the side of his eyes. Yeah, that's me. Which one am I? am i the guy with you have not a basic training exactly yes well you've kind of been because you've had controversy before i mean you had to weather like a total shit storm and you came out stronger after that it seems yeah and i think like having like knowing what the internet does to you no matter what you say like i wrote a newsletter once about like feeding my baby lentil soup and the comment section were like of course you're feeding it i was like what like what are we doing here like you'll take the most lovely thing and like turn it into whatever like do you remember that remember that um the woman on twitter that was like i love having coffee with my husband in my backyard every morning it's so nice and everyone's like oh must be nice like cool life lady like people were so mad at her and she's like what are we saying exactly yeah so you know god bless god bless anyone who willingly steps into the arena i i'm in the arena not because it's where i want to be but because of it's where i am yeah it's just where it's where you were meant to be yeah because i was gonna say the comment just reading comments on youtube videos on cooking videos and not just yours but i think universally people just are so nasty even cooking blogs that are some of the nicest people you see are like i made this brownie for my children like your brownie sucks you're killing your children you know they're horrible um they can be horrible you know yeah i think that it's like a very interesting place that we are at as a society because it's very freeing for people to be their worst self when there are no consequences and the internet is a playground of no consequences like you can hop on and say the worst things you've ever thought and no one even has to know that it's you like you can you can be the worst version of yourself publicly and some people like i guess really need that release yeah i personally don't feel that way you know what's freeing is when you can be your worst self on the internet and people do know it's you that's what i do every day it's because i can be i have been at times yeah where i am jealous of people that like feel that way and like behave that way not that i right like fighting like terrible impulses but it's more just like my whole like i i feel like in another life i would be a restaurant critic because i feel like i have really good opinions on restaurants and what makes them good or bad but i could never tell people why i think a restaurant is bad i could never think if you were to like yeah if you were just if you were to like weigh in on some restaurants people would just be like you you think because you've already established yourself as a food writer people it's like actually like incredible poor form it's like well how dare she say that because no no no i just think i think it has no nothing to do with me it has everything to do with just being a person on the internet to have an opinion and if you're like here's what i think people will be like well here's why you're wrong or here's why that's insensitive or here's why you're not considering x y and z it's like okay you know it's it's like a battle it's like you have to like mentally prepare yourself for like the most intense battle of your life when i did subway takes i i thought what my subway take was was like pretty unimpeachable i was like i need to have a subway take so ironclad that like nobody can like come at me for it like nobody can can find a way to turn it into something negative and my take was we know too many people yeah yeah and And what I, of course, what I meant by that is like, there's, there's too many open channels.

10:59I mean, you guys, this, this is a, this show is a great example. We know too many people. Like we, we know so much information about so many people's lives that like it floods our brain. And like, would we be better off if we had this? And what was the bad, what was the bad response? Like what were the. Oh, I mean, most, it was honestly like overwhelmingly positive. them it was honestly best case scenario most people agreed and was like yeah that's actually a great take but of course some people are like that's just the what what is it there's like a ferber not ferber that's the cry baby crying there's like a sort of like like a fervor no it's like a it's like a theory like a person's theory that's like we're only meant to know 100 people and it's a very old and someone's like well that's just that there but repack it and like but of course you're talking about social media but not about like real community we get to know your neighbors go talk to your neighbors and it's like this whole thing and that's horrible i've my neighbors trust me it was terrible don't take it i like for the most for for a lot of a lot of a lot of them i mean some of them are cool but a lot of them are like no and i don't want you knowing anything about me and i don't want notes in my mailbox about where my trash is you know like it's too close where is your church oh yeah we don't know like when that's how i find out that sometimes the trash isn't getting picked up that next day because my neighbors i definitely like in terms of knowing too much about too many people i i definitely have to say like it makes me sad that like i feel like i know more about someone who's on real housewives of beverly hills season five through seven than i do anything i learned in college like there's so much so much that's thing our brains are pushed up my brain yeah i used to know the best stuff for cocktail parties and now i do find that i go to a cocktail party and i'm kind of like nodding along and like waiting for someone to mention something about bravo or love island yeah like aging yeah we're aging yeah aging yeah there's that and it doesn't matter how old you are we're all aging you know what i mean yeah and i'll meet anybody at this point as long as i can just sit down like i'm fine with how many of the people there are.

13:08I mean, the whole thing about don't know too many people, I actually kind of like the oversaturation because I'm finding that the more people, you know, the more you realize that everybody's kind of the same, like there's maybe 20 different kinds of people, you know, and then, you know, we have like little things that switch us up, but I think it's almost easier to understand people once you realize we're all kind of similar now, or do you not think we are? No, I think we are, but I think that that's when you get into a trap of like clocking someone immediately and being like well you're this type of person and you're the oh yeah you know what i mean like it feels like but but the older you get the more you allow yourself to be surprised i think by like oh you know i had a really nice time or like oh you know who's really cool so and so when you don't suspect that you're going to allow yourself to have your heart be open to any more connections and then i still think though that like as we get older we also kind of naturally pare down the groups of people that were in like when i was younger i was like i would hang out with anyone well i just wanted it i was like i want i was like it was so exciting to have friends in all these different groups i was like oh my god i know these people and i know these people and i know these people and i was like so excited to be welcomed in by all these groups and then as you get older you sort of realize like the people that you just want to hang out with are the people you want to hang out with and that and like your historical gets just shrinks and like that's actually to me has been my favorite part of like actually being in my forties is learning that, you know, like it's nice to have all these people in your life, but the ones that really matter are the ones that you're going to be like calling up on like a Friday night.

14:41And that's all you really need. Yeah. We know too many people. Yeah. So well, we really got, we really got in. Well, speaking of friends, I do actually want to like talk about TV related things because you, you actually have not watched too much Bravo. You're a love is blind girly, right? I am. Yeah. Which is not. Right. But that's no, it's, it's still like of the, of the, it's in the universe TV. And so what I, I really wanted to ask you questions about, um, when you do have those friends over, like, do you have any recommendations on like putting out a spread for TV watching? How many people are you with?

15:21Well, let's say, let's start with like a, just a group of like three to four people. Let's say it's just like a standard episode. and you're just coming over on like a Tuesday night and you want to, you just have some friends over, but you want to put out like a little bit of food for them. Like what kind of vibe do you think you're going for? Well, my question to you is, are you, is this dinner? Hmm. And that has to be the question you ask yourself. Like, is this like an 8.30 PM start? Meaning you've already eaten and that's not my problem. And I'll just have some like, maybe some like cute popcorn and like a cocktail and like whatever.

15:55Or is this like... A six o 'clock. I think it's, I think it's eight 30. I think eight. No dinner. Start time. No dinner. Yeah. Yeah. First of all, tell them. Yeah. You're too late for my food. Just be like, don't come hungry. Like feed yourself. Don't come hungry. You know, say it in a nicer way than that. But if I was invited over to watch TV at eight 30, I would be like, are we eating together or not? Because what time do you normally eat dinner? By the way, anywhere from, 6 30 to 8 30 but 8 30 could be like if people get off work late etc etc it's like yeah come over at 8 30 we'll order pizza or take out or i made a roast chicken or whatever or so do you come over at 8 30 for tv and some snacks yeah of course snacks you think are is that like a crudite moment like a vegetable moment it's like a because nobody wants crudite after dinner yeah that's you want like a little popcorn and like like a tony's chocolonely bar oh yeah i love that font i love the font on that bar and like several types of beverages so alcohol non-alcohol we need like lots of fizzy water and perhaps some wine yeah yeah not like we don't need any hard cocktails this is tuesday for christ's sake it's time for a commercial it's time for a crappin's commercial

17:28but if it's like a season finale now if we're going into like season finale territory and here's what i imagine um it's let's say it's like a seven o 'clock viewing because maybe we watched it the night before or we're on the west coast where it's already airing live on the east coast and we cannot risk spoilers um people coming over at seven and let's say the mandate is more like there's gonna be some snacky stuff and maybe we have dinner afterwards um but like there could also be like a world where you like fill up on the snacky stuff and don't really need to have dinner afterwards you know what i'm saying is that like a is that like our dip moment there yeah there's dip there's then there's vegetables and crudités there's like one to two types of chips there's like cheese yeah i don't need like a cup of meat at that hour but like cheese is right especially if there's still going to be like a dinner option we don't have some like olives and peppers and anchovies and like little potato chips would be really nice oh you love your anchovies you know that was gonna make an appearance yeah yeah you love them yeah you also got me really into dill and leeks yes and leeks okay yeah i make a potato leek soup that's right you do i make all the time i'm so glad and bouillon i use i don't know Yeah, I'm trying to work with them.

18:48I'm like, do you guys want to figure something out? Yeah, that's crazy. Some brands either don't care, don't have the money, but mostly don't care. Like, they're going to be doing just fine without me. Like, they don't, they're not like, oh, wow, Alison Roman wrote about us. Like, they're. Yeah, but like, you're pretty huge and you're a huge champion of that stuff. I use it all the time now. It's a huge difference. It takes like one person on their team to be like, we should pay attention to this and do something. Yeah. That's wild. I mean, you literally wrote it in your book about it in your book.

19:17And this is like a. For no money. That was a free advertisement because I truly am passionate about the product. Yeah, I am. I am a recent better than Boolean convert from last year when my parents were in town for Passover and we were going to make we have we need to make chicken stock. And like something had gone wrong, like too many carrots and chicken stock. So it was like very sweet. So we had to get some better. Yeah, I know. I know it was terrible. and so we had to get some better than bouillon and i was like this stuff is so good and i've been using it ever since yeah it's like to me there's no replacement for like chicken broth chicken stock for like mozzarella soup and chicken soup but for other soups where like there's tons of other stuff going on don't waste your nice chicken broth for that yeah yeah i well i have to i have to say your salad from um nothing fancy that's that is in my group we just call it the salad which is your baby gem baby gems with the lemon and pistachios like that's the salad that's just that's just it and like literally been eating it for like five years straight i just want to know you've made a huge salad contribution i'm so glad household yeah which is it's a very big deal it's a very very big deal allison are you still on tour no thank god you just finished yeah you can i mean my voice is still kind of gone but i i got back last sunday um and so this past weekend was the first weekend that we were home oh nice congrats thank you where am i what time is it like how is december halfway over like yeah i'm just so like a nice ending right before a new beginning new chapter yeah i i was sort of like okay i'm gonna like really like cruise into december and like instead of december being super crazy and manic i'm like i feel like i'm on vacation a little bit that's good you're like chilling chilling through this has been amazing talking to you i really love talking to you thank you so so much for coming over are we breaking up thanks for visiting yeah we're done no this is just this is this is not good like was i bad i'm just kidding no you were fantastic i was like i'm tired goodbye no no like you're you're like this i wasn't supposed to have any more press to do and then this is one more thing no i wanted to do it i love you guys we totally appreciate you coming on i think it's It's so awesome that you are killing it with these cookbooks and like your recipes are amazing.

21:45And everyone should go check out something for nothing from nothing. And also your sub stack and something for nothing to people. And I left sub stack, but it doesn't matter. Cause you can still just subscribe to the newsletter. Yeah. Well, I love this actually, by the way, at your LA show, which was awesome. You talked about like cookbooks now versus when you first started and how like a lot of the recipes are digitally are digital, but they're in here. And I think actually I love, I love having a cookbook with the recipes in here because I cannot stand having my phone in the kitchen and you're trying to follow a recipe and then the phone goes to sleep and then you got to wake up your phone and you've got, you've got shit on your finger and you're typing your phone to wake up.

22:27It's like, no, just give me a book. Yeah. You're like, where did you find that recipe? Like am I searching my inbox? Am I Googling? Is it behind a paywall? Like what the hell's going on here yeah not so yeah love this i might actually have one last question which is you had a you dressed up as ina garden for halloween did queen ina reach out to you at all she did not reach out to me but we share a publicist for our publisher she's really her publicist but she's i guess she's mine too but really she's ina's and she's also my neighbor and so i ran into her on halloween and I was like oh my god you gotta send a picture she's like I will send her a picture and apparently she wrote back haha I love it I'm just saying I think we're pretty close now you know I once saw Miguel her florist in LAX and I literally stopped him and I was like I love your show I'm just obsessed that you know who that is like enough to say exactly exactly incredible anyway thank you so much for being on here we really appreciate it everyone go check out Allison's books of which there are many and we hope you get some nice rest and relaxation going to sleep right now 9 o 'clock over here thanks Allison so much bye guys bye well that was fun how lovely oh my gosh you guys I think I controlled myself I think I did not fit girls I did a really good job yeah You were very nice and chill.

23:57Although I know you're probably looking up listings in New York to go move for a while. I'm like, she lives next door to Ina Garton's publicist. Like, whoa. The amount of greatness in that little space right there. And Ben is out of here, everybody. Well, one thing that we didn't mention, which we didn't mention, was that she said that she has a lot of friends who listen to Crappens. So shout out to Alison Roman's friends. Thanks for, thanks for listening to our show because that's, that's super cool. But anyway. All right. So everybody, thanks. This is, you know, we do talk Bravo news and stuff, but I mean, come on, you, you get a chance to talk to Alison Roman.

24:34You take it. You take it. Also, I love, I love everyone in the, in the comments be like, you did great, Ben. You did great. It was like, everyone was like, it's like, you know, when like, you know, when you see parents with like a kid and there's like a famous book, like a quarterback or something and the parents put their kid forward to meet the quarterback and the quarterback signs it like, as I feel like you guys are all my parents, but like, Ben, go ahead. you're doing great carly all right let's get on that was some bravo news for the day shall we one of the big things that happened in the past couple of weeks is that below deck star frazer oleander says he was rushed to the hospital after suffering a heart attack because of vape poisoning at bravo con so glad he's doing okay i mean i gotta hand it to the guy he he almost died but he's posting thirst traps all over that hospital i haven't seen one picture of him that's not like or like shirtless showing off his six-pack i've never seen so many hospital thirst trap photos especially after a heart attack it's it's very impressive yeah it really is he's looking hot with a heart attack no one with a heart attack has ever looked this hot actually i would say i'm going to show you this picture that i've just i was going to show it of the story oh go ahead you show yours no you show it you show yours is probably farther along than mine are you sure mine isn't like uh one of the shirtless ones but this is the tmz on on x picture that he posted he's just like but then click through click through onto tmz and there's like another thirst trap that he has oh i clicked a picture okay let's go look at it and then scroll down my vape gave me a heart attack you know but also it was bravo con and i know a lot of those guys were you know doing more than just vaping so let me just say i don't want to villainize the vape even more than it needs to as i've got one sitting right here it's my life support animal okay so i'm kind of mad at this vape slander but you know if he almost died then whatever you you look great though i mean just hot i do not believe it was just a vape but you look this happened actually look at this he's ridiculous i've never i've literally never seen such like hot heart attack photos it's his heart attack only fans to people who are like really into like i don't know hospital porn or whatever why is this doing this i mean look i i think i'm you you do you everyone does what they want in their lives uh everything that i've heard about like vapes has not been great personally like it sounds like there's a lot of stuff that comes into your body but like this is this is wild this happened it says he this happened and he had he suffered spasms which reduced blood flow to his heart and he suffered a heart attack this is what is reported in TMZ and he was in London and medical specialists in London told him the vape was the culprit after spending a week in the hospital with severe chest pains and difficulty breathing is this something that's like known about vaping is this like a thing that happens of vaping is this something i just smoked for so long i smoked for so many years and that was i mean there's just such a noticeable difference for me i'm not like hacking up all the time i don't think i mean it's just a huge difference to me but that is someone who's smoked for years and years so to me it's it's better but i mean i don't know what it does to a nice pair of clean lungs who knows i mean who knows um but you know he's okay now so that's all that's important and he's hot so i guess that's what really counts guys someone in the comment says ronnie life is horror and pain at this point if the vape takes us it's how our ancestors would want us to go so amen you know there have been worse things to be taken by so um next up let's see um what do you want to talk about i already said one wait i i i you know i i hate to do this but i feel like it has to be addressed because we've gotten so many messages about this we just have to face it head on because it's the worst thing this weekend was like the worst weekend and every time i turned on the news something else terrible happened i we just have to address it which is the horrific sorry i know i'm sitting here with a smile on my face because i'm like trying to be like we're fun we're a fun crap yard but like the rob reiner situation is so tragic and then of course everyone messaged us being like the first thing i thought about was the valley and i felt terrible because the first thing i thought of was michelle lally and i was like i am a terrible terrible person but like wow Yes, we acknowledge that there, like, of course, like our one random celebrity ongoing joke, but obviously we're not the victims here.

29:11But that is so sad and so terrible. Yeah, for those who don't listen to The Valley, we joke that the director that Michelle was supposedly sleeping with at the Chateau Marmont was Rob Reiner. Like, that was just our joke. So, you know, we've made this joke now for two years, and then it comes out that he passed away. And what a horrible way to go. I mean, they were killed by their son. Their son, I guess, just had a lot of problems with drugs and stuff like that. And I guess the whole thing is terrible. And killed him. Fucking terrible. And then the president comes out on a huge rant against him, calling, being horrible, you know?

29:46It's this world. I can't. It's just, it's awful. We don't want to dwell on that because that's like real life news. Yeah, thanks, Ben. I know, but I feel like people are going to be like, people feel like messaging, like, you're going to say something, you're going to say something. So we are acknowledging and like, yes, we are aware of the Michelle Lolli and the Michelle Lolli-ness of it all, which is not a real thing. It really does show how selfish I am, though, because I read the story and I was like, oh, my God, that is so sad for us. I mean, what the hell? Like the darkest show on TV. Now we can't even joke about that, you know, but it does feel like in a way because it was the you know, we joked about that on the darkest show.

30:27on tv which can't be good luck but you know god bless them you know god bless yeah there were many tragedies this weekend but you know just highlighting that out because the random ass connection to this podcast so now let's go hello while we're on one why why not just keep it depressing we'll go to the Nathan post after what happened at Bondi um yeah if Allison were like okay bye Allison it was great talking to you about snacks okay Frazier had a hard attack from vaping guys don't vape rob reiner died and there was a horror there was a terror attack in bondage world is a dark place right now what do you want from us so nathan uh from below deck med for those of you who don't watch it he's like sweet seeming kind of not great bosom on there and uh you know there was a huge attack uh bondi beach and he posted something pretty gross on instagram he posted brought people off the beach uh and headed to the sea terrifying and disgusting behavior anyone who thinks it's okay to let these people into any other country than their own can go themselves unfortunately these acts paint a picture for all of them and that picture has been painted out of every country out of europe and out of australia so he's taking a lot of heat rightly so bro isn't the word gross enough without you being a hateful fucking bigot on top of it my god yeah that is that's like does not help the conversation whatsoever he is now i was just saying not to mention a muslim person is the one who stopped the shooter you dick yeah not to mention that like australia does not belong to white people anyway like not any of these places yeah exactly it's so stupid and and like shame on him really shame on him for for saying that during a like a horrific tragedy and like just you know people need to get a grip okay yeah we'll need to get a grip yeah um someone said on here uh bw watson said now is not the time for me to quit smoking and you know what that's that's fair we're driving this car in this crazy world and i agree you know just roll your window down why don't we pivot into two two items quick items that pertain to below deck med but are not depressing we all like yeah so first is the current charter guy, the guy who is chartering, that's the boat.

32:47Guess what? He has fraud charges. Oh, no. Yeah. Guess what? He has some sort of like get rich quick thing. And I hate to be the bearer of bad news. It's a fraud. So that's his issue. But actually more intriguing to me is this guy, Billy. I feel like we did. We ever talk about this guy, Billy on below deck med there was, there was like these gays that were on for like twice. And there was this one guy named Billy and I'm going to bring up his picture because once you see his pictures, you know, you'll, you'll recognize him. And he was just the worst. He was very prissy and he was very bossy and he was just a pain in the ass the entire time, the entire time.

33:33He was just like, just, and he was always like, I'm so sorry, but like, we're like, Oh my God, that where's like, where's my cocktail? He always complained. Do you recognize this guy? I do. I do. But not. Guess what? I mean, you know, Below Deck, I just erase out of my mind with every new season. So, not really. Well, guess what? This guy arrested for double murder. Can you believe it? Double murder? Jeez, lots of double murders in today's crappy hour. What the hell? I know, but wait. I'm sorry. I was like, this will be funnier. I don't know why it's like funnier when it's like some abstract. like the guy move on to something like a double murder i just realized as i said it it's like not funnier but i'm just like what the billy from below deck med where did this come from but i think it was a hit and run he did a hit and run and so this guy piece of shit and now officially piece of shit so those are my little items from the world of below deck guests yikes um i guess i didn't really turn the thing i didn't turn the beat around did i turn the beat around

34:39um so let's see here u.s uh new vanderpump rules cast addresses backlash and negativity surrounding reboot you know there has been a lot of negativity i'd i'd just like to tell the new cast just chill and don't address it don't talk about it don't get involved in it because it's natural for a bravo show to get negativity we're bravo we're a bravo loving audience we're negative people the first thing we're going to do is complain about you say how much we hate you say how much the other one was better you need to give people six months and then they'll you know six months to a year and you'll be fine but just ignore it for now guys just ignore it well actually the the first of all i'm laughing because dolphins girl 253 just joined us hi and she says just made it what did I miss I'm like girl you don't even want to know you don't really just things in the world and but also a guest spot from Allison Roman um but uh I I will say Ronnie that the the article was actually the vibe was more like people are being negative to us but there's actually so much more love that it's outshining the negativity which is nice that's what Audrey says she says honestly the amount of negativity has just been overshadowed by all the love and it's been so surprisingly overwhelming to feel that.

35:57And I have to say, when I've talked to anyone about the new Vanderpump Rules cast, everyone's been positive about it. Every single person that I've talked to has been like, I actually kind of like it. And I, in fact, I tweeted out last week and I said, I actually kind of like it. And like everyone responded back saying, yeah, I like it too. There wasn't a lot, there was no one that was like, oh, this is so boring. How could you even say that? What's wrong with you? So I'm wondering if like, I think that like that, those seem like good early indicators, right? Yeah. I think it's happy I guess you can look for positive or negative anywhere if you just google your opinion you'll usually find people to agree with you so I don't know I hope it's positive the ratings suck and Andy went on a whole thing about how ratings don't matter and all of this obviously they do but I guess they're different now obviously how they count them but we can't tout something for getting a million viewers a week can be like that's amazing and then when something gets 200 a week we're like no it doesn't matter it's basically like getting a million so i hope that people kind of come around to it because i like it yeah uh i like it too and it's i think it's doing well on peacock so it's just so it's just like you know when you live in la for a long time and you just see yourself and your friends on there meaning just young poor hungry for something that isn't really defined and willing to do so many like probably wrong things like like veering teetering on the edge of human trafficking as these people often are and they're closer to the edge than they know working at one of those restaurants because you know i still think pump was a trafficking um ring i always said that since the beginning i always thought it was we would go eat there there would be all these hot people they would be gone by the next time you were there and replaced by a new crop of hot people it's like where are they all going are they being shipped off and you know commercials here comes one right now

38:01so you're seeing them and they could go in the jacks way or they could go in a you know very innocent way i couldn't think of an example from that show for innocence but yeah you know yeah Yeah, that's what I was a lot of talk. There's a lot of talk in the comments about Paolo and him being in the hospital. I think he's out of the hospital. I think that happened a few months ago. So I think from what I heard that he maybe you told me this, that he went back to work at the restaurant. I think he's like back at the restaurant. Oh, really? But he was not there. So a week ago, I went to the Vanderpump Rules publicity thing that they have with invited content creators and everything.

38:37And I went and Paolo was not there. Everyone was asking for Paolo. He was not there. Larry Baldwin was there, which was hilarious. Hilarious. Ken was there. Honestly, a great honor of mine was that Bravo TV posted a photo of Ken Todd from Sir over the weekend. And I was in the background of the photo. And I was like, I made it. I really made it. Photo bombing Ken Todd. It was a great honor. Thank you, everyone. But, yeah, I think the show's going to be good. So, looking forward to it. What do you want to talk about next? Well, just because we've mentioned some old stars, there is positive things to do with older celebrities in this country.

39:20And one of them is Melissa Gilbert from Little House on the Prairie. You guys might know her as Kyle's friend on Little House on the Prairie. She played a friend of Little House on the Prairie to Kyle Richards. And she posted on Instagram, she said, So the hubby and I had an interesting encounter with a couple of Bravo Leberties hashtag the other day. Let me start by saying I'm a fan of Real Housewives. It started, of course, because of my sweet friend, Kyle Richards. I love Real Housewives of Bravo. Now I've become addicted to at Rony Bravo, at Real Housewives of Salt Lake City, and at Real Housewives of Orange County.

39:56Okay, Melissa Gilbert, you need to learn to act better. Because who are you even talking to? Who are you talking to? These shows are my guilty pleasure. I find them to be so fun and entertaining. By the way, this is a Bronwyn-length Instagram post. And she said she met Brittany Bateman from Salt Lake City. The other day, we were walking past the plot at the Plaza Hotel, and I said to at Tim Busfield, we just walked by at Brittany Bateman and Jared Osment. And then her husband. Isn't that funny? Did you know she was married to Timothy Busfield? I don't think so. So I don't think I didn't like connect her to Amadeus, but sure.

40:36Go on. Wait. No, he's not Amadeus. That's Tom something. Tom. You're right. Yeah. Either way. Amadeus. Who played Amadeus? No. Buzzfield always played. Tom Holtz. You're right. Tom Holtz. That's right. Timothy Buzzfield is from 30 something. Sorry. Yeah. There's like Tom Holtz. Timothy Buzzfield spectrum is very, it's like very small. Is it? Timothy Buzzfield. I think that they're basically two sides of the same coin. No, Timothy Busfield is that ginger guy. He was on the Red House, I guess I should say. What was he on? Husband's wife. Oh, 30 something. Yeah. Yeah. So anyway, so they saw him and he took charge and he was like, oh, this is my wife, Melissa Gilbert from Little House on the Prairie.

41:23And she was like, big fan. And then Brittany was like, uh, says Brittany seemed a bit harried. Like she wasn't really in her body as she thanked me for being a fan. And rightly so. Jared had lost his phone and a random woman currently standing in front of the plaza had found it. What's the story?

41:43What I want to say to Melissa Gilbert, don't feel upset that Brittany did not recognize who you are. Because I don't think Brittany recognizes who anyone is. which is actually offensive because I think that Melissa Gilbert is, she really is like a fashion icon or, you know, Real Housewives of Salt Lake City. I mean, anytime they go and put on a bonnet, you can just trace that right to Little House on the Prairie. Well, exactly. Especially, yeah, the old school Mormon for sure. Like the flower dresses and the bonnets and stuff like that. So then she's like, and then Brittany just ghosted me. She made an Irish goodbye and didn't even say goodbye to me.

42:17And I am from Little House on the Prairie. How dare you? yeah that's it that's it that is that is what you call smacking the hand that feeds you or yeah biting the hand it's well you could it's a smack as well um speaking of salt lake city a lot of people want to want us to chime in about bronwyn and todd i don't know if there's any more updates since then right nothing else has come out except that they are just they're separated right i haven't heard any more details have you yeah we had talked on the show i just heard that they might be getting separated and then it was announced a couple days later um so yeah i mean that's just the news they're getting separated i don't know anything else other than that do you well i'm just going around telling everyone who hears that todd is uh someone who grabs the back of a seat to get up and out of his seat in order to go to the bathroom because that's what my brother experienced when my brother sat in front of him last week on a plane and todd kept on grabbing his chair to get out and grabbing it and like i was like todd are you gonna watch crazy rich Asians or something or are you just going to create your own chaos on an airplane yeah that's all I know about it yeah I guess we saw that coming um I don't know I mean good for her I did see that she posted a couple of Instagrams about it but honestly I just cannot with Bronwyn's Instagram she she does those photo text photo text things where she writes all over the photo but she writes 10 paragraphs per picture and I cannot read it without like going in and making it bigger and then moving it around the phone to just read what she's saying and it's just word salad every time i read it you know it's like well you know people have been asking me about my divorce with todd i just wanted to say that you know it's been lovely and there's been so many years i love sidewalks because if you have sidewalks you don't have to walk on the grass and isn't that nice isn't that nice you save the grass and so that's really good but you know i'm not really sure what to say about todd except i love love and love is love and love for flowers represent love which is why i love flowers all the flowers are great it's like shut the fuck up can we can Can we go back to the old Twitter days where you have to say something in 20 words?

44:20Just do that. Please. I like, though, that when she writes those big walls of text after every 15 seconds, it shakes. Because that's like her head nodding. Like, uh-huh. I'm writing a text right now. So many people commented. Like, so many people were making jokes and memes about the fact that, like, she went to her lawyers as soon as he took that cherry off of her sundae. like everyone went right to that scene of him taking taking the cherry off of her banana split that she was so excited for yeah i don't know i mean i guess we'll be following that it's hard to care about a divorce with todd involved you know what i mean but did one day on the show i know no kidding did she say on the show that they had a prenup or they did not have a prenup i think she said they did have one i think she said they did have one but i don't i don't know I'm not sure.

45:10I don't remember either. One thing that actually caught my attention in these headlines is this article about Jazzy, Jazzy Rideau, who apparently cropped Stacey out of a group photo from her wedding. And when asked about it, she was like, did I crop her out? I think, you know, that repost is just a situation where I didn't want anyone fake in my photo. So I just did what any normal person would do. so it seems as though Jazzy and Stacey it seems like things are not going well we were we were watching last night's episode and talking about today in the recap and it seemed like Jazzy was standing up for Stacey and it seemed like they were trying to really work on Jazzy to turn her to be like Stacey you know Stacey wasn't gonna go to your wedding unless we all went to your wedding which is funny because it's like were you guys gonna go to the wedding unless the rest of you guys were gonna go to the wedding so whatever it is Jazzy is now mad at Stacey and I was like sad because I...

46:10It seems like follower stuff. It seems like more follower stuff. Like, I'm going to do what the popular kids are telling me to do and just go against Stacey. So, I don't think maybe something will happen between Jazzy and Stacey that we haven't seen, but I'm assuming that it's going to be what we saw on the show today, that Ashley said the only reason she even went to your wedding is because she knew it was going to be filmed. And so, maybe they'll fight about that, but I don't know. It's kind of tired. The hate against Stacey for no reason. the more fun stuff is watching Angel lose it all over.

46:41She's just not having a great time with that cast. And she said, let's be clear. I am from Maryland. I know where the bones are buried and I kept it classy. Done. Let's be very clear. She says, let's be clear a lot in her post. That's how you know it in the post. She goes, let me be clear. So she says, let me be clear. No, this time very clear. If I could have seen the cash shit talked about me behind my back week after week, I would have moved different. My objective was to be cool with everybody, but the three witches wouldn't let it let up. And now I'm done. And she's referring to Wendy, Ashley and Giselle, which really don't see anything she's saying wrong so far.

47:20I've read a million and one lives about myself. Stories people have made up to feed a need for whatever reason to believe I'm some person. I've stayed large, largely silent. But last night's episode takes the cake. Giselle is lying. She has no word on the street because no one knew her on the street before joining this show. So you're saying she's only been famous 12 years? How many years is this show? Ten? Eight? It's been on the air for about ten years, yeah. No one knew you before a decade ago. Isn't really a good diss when you haven't been famous longer than a decade, I don't think either.

47:52Wait, no one knew you before a decade ago? That's significant. No one knew certain megastars before three years ago. be like you've only been famous for 10 years in a in a fickle in a fickle pop culture that discards stars after six months and you've only lasted 10 years well how long have you been a wag ma 'am yeah has it been longer than that because i don't know but it's a weird diss and um you know she says giselle's lying she had no word on the street uh no one knew her on the street before joining the show wendy's mutual friend oh yeah that conversation never happened i spoke with her lies ashley just needs to join in on a storyline so here's the problem with her is she's actually right to be upset with and she's pretty much right to be upset i think with all the ladies and she's right in what she's saying it's just she's so bad at it that you still can't be better you know there's another another article you've only been a celebrity for 10 years since you've been a television star loser there's an article in uh about all this stuff uh on decider and the headline which is not worth going into but it's just it's just it's just more funny stuff it's here in a potomac star kieran stewart teases audiences will see a different side of angel massey later this season that was yes from yesterday this article i just love the perpetual you know teasing of what's to come with angel like don't worry you're gonna get to know her you're gonna get to know me that's coming up soon and i'm gonna get to know you it's like stop Stop teasing this.

49:24Like, you'll see another side of Angel City. I'm like, I think we've seen the sides. We've seen it. We're good. We're good. We've seen it. All right, everybody. This ends the audio version of this. We will be moving over to talk to you guys on Vidya over on our YouTube. And so those of you who want to talk to us, stay here. The rest of you, we will talk to you in the new year. This was our final crappy hour for 2025. So thanks for another great year, you guys. We love you and we'll talk to you next time. Bye. Okay. Watch what crappens would like to thank its premium sponsors. Ain't no thing like Alison King.

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