#3153 RHOBH S15E04 Part One: Sedona Nobis Pacem

0:20Well, hello, and welcome to Watch What Crappens, a podcast about all that crap on Bravo that we just love to talk about i'm ben mandelker joining me today is the one and only ronnie karam hi ronnie how's it going good i'm just over here scrolling my instagram to see if the guy from heated rivalry messaged us come on man come on scott hunter it's gonna happen it's gonna happen i'm sure he's totally in love where is my dm scott hunter for those who don't know what ronnie's talking about we had the immense privilege of going to the spotify and hollywood reporter party to celebrate the golden globe nominees for best podcast and so we had a great time there and then uh the two of us as well as ariana and logan we um basically um forced ourselves into a photo with francois arnold is that his name right from heated rivalry and um it was great uh i'm the guy from the other two too.

1:21The guy, Drew Tarver from the other two and Nina Dubrov. We basically forced this crazy photo. I don't know if anyone was as thrilled as the four of us were, but I took the lead. I took the lead. I was like, you know what? I said, I will be the one who will shamelessly interrupt these famous people talking to get the photo because it needs to go on our Instagram. So I went up. I don't think the guys were too pleased with me truly butting into their conversation and they had every right to have been like give me a gritted teeth smile but it was worth it it was worth it for the photo of the gram and now hopefully ronnie will have a new boyfriend so we'll see ronnie oh i'm sure i'm just what he's looking for yes well that being said it's an exciting day also here because on top of taking photos with heated rivalry stars and on top of being reunited with our lovely Ariana Maddox.

2:14It's also the day that the tickets have gone on sale for the crappies. Speaking of Ariana, Ariana has been in some form or another at every single one of our live crappie shows. So we now, the next one is gonna be on February 27th at the Fonda Theater in Los Angeles. Tickets are on sale now. They're on our website. They're on our social media. Go get them. Let's sell this thing out and have the best night ever. We're going to be giving out awards for everything on Bravo that we feel is award-worthy, and even beyond, you know, Love Island, Traders, all that good stuff. Like, let's do this thing.

2:51Let's have fun. We're going to build a ballot. We're going to have a great night. It's going to be a night of memories, y 'all. So come and join us. Y 'all's is. Y 'all's is. That's going to be a great time. Also, ad-free is now on Patreon. If you're looking for ad-free, go over to Patreon. That's where you get it. Also, all of our episodes are there from the very beginning, which is hard to get on some platforms. So go over there. And also, that's where you get videos and bonus recaps. And this week, we will be talking about The Traitors. So we've got a busy day today. We've got Beverly Hills.

3:22We've got two episodes of The Valley. And we've got The Traitors. So we're not going to shut the fuck up today. So I hope you're ready to listen all weekend long, my little pets. All right, let's get to it. Real Housewives of Beverly Hills, season 15, episode four, a Housewives heat wave. This show is struggling. I'm just going to start off this recap by saying this show needs some energy. It needs some life. Rachel Zoe might not have been the proper choice for that, even though I still enjoy Rachel Zoe. But I don't know. I'm starting to doubt. Now, that said. Rachel Zoe is friend of energy. I'm sorry.

4:01When they cast her, I knew she was going to be a dud. Because like her, this just isn't her vibe. She's very low key. And Beverly Hills is at its weakest when it's focusing on their looks and leaning into like their fashion. I know that there are certain people who really like it. And that's nice. I feel like that should be like a nice fringe benefit of Beverly Hills. But a lot of times that gets centered as being the only thing that's happening. So when they cast Rachel Zoe, they were pretty much sending out a flare saying, this is going to be a dumb season. That's what they were doing. They were saying this is going to be a season where they walk into rooms and squeal at each other's outfits.

4:40And there'll be like some minor dust ups. But it's going to be a nothing. And it's a shame because I thought last season was really good. I thought the last two seasons were really good. And this one is just lifeless. And I wonder if part of it is because it's on while you have Salt Lake City, which is basically a circus. I mean, I complained the other day that like Salt Lake City may have to rein it in with some of these, you know, contrived manufactured season finales that they're trying to do. But at least they're trying to do something and they're having fun. But this show, I think there's like a sense of self-satisfaction that like what they're putting up there is interesting.

5:13And, you know, I think I like all the players actually quite a bit. But the show itself is languid and just is lacking at polls. It's like dead on arrival. yeah i mean that said they did bring in a new beach ball for the seals to toss around which is this desperate girl the money queen i mean she's a wreck and she's she's a horrible human being which i love she's new money trash and i'm loving watching them warm up to bully her for a whole because you know that's beverly hills they find someone they bully them and that's it so they found somebody and it's good it seems like she's deserving it seems like it's someone who's deserving of bullying, which, listen, I love some deserved bullying, you know?

5:55I think there should be amendments to the Trevor Project. But, yeah, so it seems like that's going. And I do, I will say, I still enjoy the show. I mean, it is just like an easy breezy show to kind of get through. But there's, they just could be doing so much more. And I know it's only episode four. And I know that we need to give the new people some time to warm up. And maybe Rachel Zoe will, you know, have a year and the next year come in swinging. I mean, I don't know, but. Right, that won't happen. Yeah. It is fun watching the destruction of Sutton and Jennifer's relationship because Sutton is yet again pushing someone way too far, way too fast.

6:33And she's going to get it because Jennifer, you're not doing Jennifer some huge favor by having her on this show, you know? No. And I think Sutton probably has that feeling of like, well, I brought you on this show. It's like, no, ma 'am, this is the bride of Chucky. How dare you? Have some respect. you were talking to an oscar nominee yes um also i mean you could also do a conspiracy theory that you know kyle richards she basically produces the show and she calls the shots if she did if this were if this theory were false she would have been probably off the show a while ago because she's honestly she just gives us what like is like the is she she sort of manufactures and puts it in a bow and gives it to us and like look i'm being honest with you guys but it's really not um and if you look at it like i mean all of sudden's crew has slowly been dismantled over the past few years where it's now down to just um what's her face uh jennifer like you don't have garcelle you don't have crystal there really wasn't much more beyond that but the point was that like sudden there was a moment there where sudden was was making a she was making a play to sort of moved to the center of this cast and um box force 5 has continued to reign supreme something's got to be done i don't know what it is it's just um i don't know but i do have to say amanda francis on any other season on any other show i'd be like get this oh god this one's terrible also because she is an asshole she's clearly a fraud but she's like the asshole and the fraud that this cast really needs because watching her annoy every single one of the cast mates just made me happy like every time they give her a side eye i just like laugh i was like you deserve this people you brought this on yourselves you brought on amanda francis because you guys are too protected you're too protective of yourself you're too self-producing so this is what you get you get amanda francis deal with her yeah deal with it suckers all right well let's get into it here we go um we open with bows a mom daughter driving scene like oh my god you're driving so crazy.

8:34This is nuts. I have a daughter, a daughter who drives. What am I going to do? And yeah, then we go to Rachel and she's like sitting by her pool and she's like talking. She's talking to Kias. Kias, Kias, tell me about Camp Kias. Tell me about everything. How was the camp? Tell me everything. Kias is... Rachel, you tell me more about camp as in give me more, okay? I don't need you sitting in your flip-flops by your pool every episode talking to fucking kaius okay what did kaius go through screen tests for this show is kaius a new housewife i need less kaius and more um crazy from you more yes i was gonna say that's more bias oh i thought i thought you said pious but i was like pious doesn't make sense bias makes sense bias makes sense i need something yeah i need something i need something with your flowy caftans also what are you hiding i feel like rachel is a caftan person what is she hiding i feel like it's like meredith marx's blazers like where she even wears swimsuits with a blazer jacket and remember how i thought for years like she secretly had penguin arms or something i was like what are you hiding under the blazers like we didn't see her arms for literally i think 80 episodes and i'm wondering that with rachel what's happening are you just a head on a popsicle stick yeah hiding she's hiding so much so she's like kaius i don't think i could get any higher like you could your iq and your eq are so high.

10:01Like you couldn't be like more perfect. Like I'm serious. Like I die. I die for your IQ. I'm going to call it die Q. Cause it's just like, I die for it. Like be safe. Okay. Stop picking your face and have a best time. Okay. Don't pick your face. You get too much of an EQ to pick your face. Okay. So then we go over to Erica's house, Erica doing laundry, which you know what gives me joy. I'm just going to say, I love watching Erica do menial tasks. I feel like she deserves it. You know? Yeah. So she's doing her laundry and she's checking the lint filter. Oh, my God. Who hadn't cleaned the lint filter?

10:37This is disgusting. Who did it? You. I mean, what are you going to do? Blame Mikey? Where's Mikey, by the way? Haven't we seen Mikey? We've seen Laia, but we haven't seen Mikey. Yeah, you're right. Well, the season's still young. He'll come around. He always comes around. She only has three people in her life. You think Mikey is, like, sick of getting blamed for that fucking lint trap? Like, bah!

11:00I just hit go on the drying machine and see what happens. I love running the risk of fire because this machine is fire, bitch. You are fire, bitch. It's time for a commercial. It's time for a Crappens commercial. And then we go over to Sutton's house. And Sutton's arranging a tea set. She's like, bag on it. I bag on it. I haven't put cheese out. That's okay. You know what? But she really likes cheese Jennifer likes cheese And so Jennifer comes over And she's like oh my gosh You got me cheese How fabulous I feel like I'm in England This is fabulous So they go and they sit down And Sutton tells us I've changed my drinking habits over the past few months I took some time off And I just wanted to regroup So now I'll have a glass of wine or a glass of champagne that I can enjoy.

12:00And it's just a change of lifestyle. Again, I say you guys brought this on yourself. And look, now you guys are having a boring season because you shamed Sutton out of enjoying her tequila in the afternoon. Now Sutton can't pour fucking Tito's into her Cheerios. Okay, you did this, you guys. This is you. Yes, let her just be wasp and have their afternoon tipple. These housewives shame everybody for being an alcoholic and then wonder why their shows get boring. Can we shame people for other things? Jeez. Yeah. Seriously. So then we go to Jennifer's confessional, and she's like, well, I just had a bit of an afternoon tipple.

12:43So I think I've lost my drinking companion, but it's okay. It's a positive thing for her. I don't know if you've ever been around a sober setting, But it's challenging It's challenging times We're living in She's like it's not as much fun To wear a caftan if the other person Isn't drinking something So then Sutton's like well I've had A very very very Busy morning Those flowers in the vase they used to be on a different part Of the table and I moved them Busy morning I just woke up actually

13:25it's 1 p.m so Sutton's like well I've been busy planning a trip for myself somewhere I've always wanted to go to Sedona and I'm inviting everyone and Jennifer's like oh okay you're inviting everyone well so it won't be so relaxing if it'll be nice we'll meld our feminine energy and Sutton's like um yes Sedona is a place of healing you know it's it's a place of jeeps that you get into healing jeeps pink healing jeeps and i think all of us have some healing to do i've always wanted to go somewhere peaceful somewhere where women can just be women being peaceful drink poor setting trying to have this season where she's going to be sober and peaceful is hilarious this cannot last more than two more episodes i just don't see it and also she's already got the attitude of someone who's trying to drink or trying to drink less for like five minutes.

14:21And listen, I've been there. You know, I get it. But she looks extremely stressed out by the end of this episode. Like, I will not drink too much. God damn it, Amanda, you don't know where I go from shit. It's like, oh my God, just get her an IV. Get her something. Yeah. So Sutton's saying that she wants to bring everyone to Sedona. She also wants to work with her relationship with Dorit. She says that they've gotten to a place where we're safe and cordial and I really think I can become friends with Dorit and I really think we can do that in Sedona where I can become friends with her and then yell at her and then cry in her face and accuse her of being a bad friend.

14:59That'll probably happen, right?

15:03So we see them talking about divorce and how Sutton was like, you know what? You will come ashore. You will survive this. You'll just have to get through it and one day you're going to wake up. It's going to be a new day. You're going to walk to that mailbox and you're going to have a letter from the Pope telling you that your last name is now brown brown all the names at a certain point when you get divorced you just get associated with a with a corporate logo and i was given you ps and that's fine that is my lot in life so sudden says i think with dorit we are touching on a few friend points yes yes yes you don't want to barge in like i'm going to be your friend you don't want to Just come in like that, Sutton Yeah, you just don't want to be Overboard about it Oh, it's me, Sutton I'm your friend now Well, I wouldn't do that And that's not what this is about, Jennifer And you would appreciate it If you didn't mock me She's like, I'm not Mocking you, I'm just Just having a drink right now Something that you used to do with me Well, don't say Don't go in there, okay I'm not going to.

16:14I'm not going to go in there and be like that. I'm not going to be aggressive. I'm not going to act like that, Jennifer. Which is, by the way, exactly what Sutton is going to do. It's exactly what she's going to do. And one thing we know from Sutton's first season is that she is going to go in there. Because that was like her first struggle on the show with Crystal, remember? Walking into her room. Crystal's like, I am naked. How dare you? I'm triggered. So Sutton, Jennifer's like, well, I'm just reiterating what you're saying. I'm not saying anything more than that. I'm just grateful for the cheese.

16:48Sure. Sure. So Jennifer tells us, with Saturn, sometimes I think that she gets all worked up and it's anxious or something like that. And sometimes she hurts people that she doesn't mean to hurt. I described her once as like, she's like a Catherineville, you know, like that firework that spins around and around. You put it in a tree and sparks go everywhere and it burns and it burns. And then sometimes you just get hit by the sparks. Yeah. You're talking about an abusive relationship, by the way. Anybody who's got lifetime has heard this speech before. He doesn't mean it. I mean, he's a teen heartthrob named Rob Lowe.

17:25Surely he doesn't mean to be hurtful. But he did chase me down the street with a knife. But I'm sure that he didn't mean it. Yeah. You're. Yeah. Get out of there. So she's like, well, sparklers in trees. I'm just going to say that right now. Let's not put sparklers in trees. No more Catherine wheels. Well, we don't even need Catherine wheels with neighbors like mine. In Texas, I have neighbors who literally sit on the street. They pull out lawn chairs and they don't put them on their lawn. Okay. They put them on the street and they sit there and they set off their fireworks and the fireworks hit everybody else's houses.

18:02And the first year I was there, they hit my neighbor's house and a bush started on fire and they're just sitting there watching the fucking bush on fire with their kids i was like okay you know what next year i'm going to come out here and i'm going to aim fireworks at your children i'm going to sit directly across the street what who are you who does this you know i think i think you're a family of katherine wheels yeah yeah seriously and and you've got a flat tire okay and listen if fireworks done professionally with a company that's great like Like the backyard fireworks, the street fireworks, you're trash.

18:36I'm sorry. I'm just saying that right now. I am tired today. Well, I'm not tired, but I'm just saying like I didn't get a lot of sleep last night. So it's all coming out. That's what's happening. Okay. Which is that I have to say I'm taking a stance on fireworks. If you're doing fireworks in the street, you're trash. Like congratulations. You shot off one firework and you had a very like pathetic display of like pyrotechnics in the sky. Like why are you trying to do this? Why are you doing this? You're annoying every single other person because the thing is with professional fireworks. You generally know when they're going to happen.

19:08But like with like fireworks in the street, you'll someone you'll just be in your living room doing something. And then like all of a sudden an explosion goes off. You're like, I wasn't prepared for that. Why are you doing that for me? And now you're also probably caught something on fire. Trash. I'm sorry. Yeah. Well, that's the same. The same neighbors have these little kids and they had lemonade stands. And I used to buy a lemonade stand at lemonade from these kids. They never said thank you. By the way, that lemonade was like$10. So fuck those kids. And they would sell honey for like 20 bucks and I would buy it.

19:36And they never even said, thank you. You know, I should firework your whole house. Firework them. That would be a good use of fireworks. Just set up a Catherine wheel right over their front door. Just let it bump them in the head as it goes around as they walk out. Well, I think that's too threatening when you have a child. So I'm just going to go next time. I'm just going to dress like a really sad clown. I'm going to stand on their front lawn holding a sparkler.

20:00Just start calling them Catherine. And they'll be like, why are you calling me Catherine? You're like, it's a reference to a stupid firework from medieval times. It's my way of dissing you. So Jennifer says, well, Saturn, your intentions are good. And that's all that matters. She's like, well, the road to heaven is paved with good intentions. No, the road to hell is paved with good intentions. She's like, oh, well, get out of my house. I bought cheese for you. This is the moment. this is the moment that son realized she was going to hell she's like but you mean all this time i was making a road a road with good intentions it wasn't going to heaven i've been going the wrong way how long have i been going down this highway so now we go to dorit's kitchen where she is prepping her dog food um in like those bronze bowls?

20:58Copper bowls? I don't know what you would call them. They're fancy bowls. I think they're very fancy. I mean, they're like home goods fancy, but they're still nice. I mean, look, I felt like I should compliment her dog bowls. I really liked them. I thought they were cute. It was a nice moment. I felt like you were being very inclusive in that moment. So she lets Kyle in because she's like, guys, my friend Kyle's coming over, so you'll probably smell her dogs. Please don't go crazy barking. I always think this is like really funny. Okay, as long as I'm ranting and I'm like alienate, well, I've already alienated the fireworks contingent of our audience.

21:28I apologize. I was, I clearly got triggered by this whole Catherine real situation. I have a new, I have a, I have another pet peeve about pet owners. I'm not even gonna say it's dog owners. I just see it more with dog owners, but people would do it with their cats too. I understand everyone talks to their pets. Of course. Like that's fun. Like everyone talks to their pets. It's really fun. but what i don't understand are when people when people um what's the what's the right word um are trying to like not when people are trying to murder no when you're trying to like reprimand your pet like if your if your dog is jumping up too much if your dog is like being too aggressive to someone who's coming to the house and you're trying to you know pull your dog back or whatever or the dog is doing something in public that's crazy.

22:16I always think it's funny when dog owners reprimand them by trying to speak logic to them. Like hear Dorit saying like, okay, you guys, you probably smell her dog, so please don't jump up. As if the dog is going to hear that sentence, understand every word in it or any word in it and be like, oh, she makes a good point. We should probably be chill. like what like again i get like what i get like the casual you talk to your dogs because it's like that's just like pet ownership is kind of like you sort of have like a there's some sort of like a proxy relationship there and like i would talk to my cat when i had a cat but like i was at a friend's house and his dog was going crazy and running all over the place and the dad the dog's the the tail was wagging knocking over glasses and my friend was like listen you really have to stop you know you really you have to stop you're you're really out of control i need you to really stop.

23:10And I was like, the dog doesn't know. The dog doesn't know this. Why are you doing this? Why are you talking like that? It understands tones. It does not understand sentences. Okay. Okay. So Ben is just basically advocating for people to beat their dogs is what he just said. I'm advocating for national podcast radio. I'm advocating for better use, better, better tools of reprimanding. So that way it's like effective. I'm not advocating for abuse, but I'm advocating for something more than trying to have a logical conversation with an animal that does not speak any sort of human language. No, I do it to my dog all the time.

23:46And you know I do. I'll be like, now, is this what we want to do? I don't like this. I don't like this kind of behavior. But I do think that they hear the tone, which is... That's the thing. Like they can hear the nagging in the tone. And then that switch is when he doesn't listen. It switches to, goddamn, I'm going to fucking kill you. And he knows what that means, too. So, no, it's like, I, of course I understand like the, that casual thing of like, okay, like, what are you doing right now? But there are some people who like, it's not just that they really, they really just think that all they say is, Hey, what are you, what are you doing?

24:24Like, what's like, why are you doing when they're really supposed to be reprimanding? It's one thing to sort of like be having that casual, you know, sort of jokey conversation you have with your pet. but like I am shocked at the number of people who really I think sincerely think they are making a change in their pets lives whether it's a cat too it could be a cat too I saw you know what no in fact it's not a dog thing no I was at my friend's house recently and the cat kept on jumping on the counter and my friend was like like you you have to stop doing this I don't know why you're doing this I'm like the cat can't hear you the cat doesn't know what you're saying they do they do understand like I have conversations where he like he knows he's about to do something bad like go through the trash can, right?

25:04Like take something out of the trash can and start like eating it. So I'll see him look at it and I'll say, what are you doing? And then he'll look back at me and be like, what? And then he'll go towards the trash can. I'm like, really? And then he'll look at me like, what are you gonna do? And then he'll put his head in the trash can. I'm like, are we really gonna do that? Do you really wanna die right now? Why do you wanna die right now? You have so much to look forward to. You haven't even applied to colleges yet. Why are you dying? And he'll slowly drop it down and walk away. so i think that they do they do hear you know i think they hear tone but what i'm saying i guess what i'm trying to say is there are a lot of people who don't really change their tone they they just continue to talk to the dog as if they like as if the dog like like the dog can hear like the word the specific dog understand i think we all know there's a telling you dogs are just underestimated they know full dictionary or cats i'm bringing it out to cats too because i swear to God, I did have a cat experience last week, an adorable cat, but the cat like kept on jumping on things.

26:04And I'm telling you, it's just so funny to me that people just, they just talk to their animals as if it's going to make any sort of change. And again, I'm separating this from like normal pet talk because I know we all talk to our pets, but this is like, I'm like, at a certain point, like you have to, you switch into like, I'm the boss of this house, right? And like, there's some people just don't do it. I'm like, what? No one would I'm not familiar.

26:33We all know who the boss of this house is, and it is not me. Okay? It has never been me. So, speaking of being the boss of their own home, Dorit lets Kyle in because Kyle comes over. And Kyle's like, oh, my God, are there no kids right now? Hold on. Let me text PK. And she's like, no, they're in Florida. They're in Florida right now. I've allowed them to go. Giga just wasn't himself. It was another point where I had to wear a name tag that said hello your name is Jigga I didn't even know who he was And when he left he said goodbye Jigga I said who are you Where does that go to PK go Trick question I already know the answer to that but I'll pretend like I don't No I sent them I sent them without PK even knowing What do you think of that I said go run That unbaked croissant calling you calling you son isn't calling you run run and take the neighbor girl with you oh so you said fine so like or did like pk sign off on both the kids being able to go like what's the situation it's like and uh dorit's saying like the kids the kids are with my parents in florida having the best time the best time in an elderly community in florida as well just like what kids want to be close to Disney World without actually going to Disney World.

27:55And I should be at ease, and I should be taking care of myself, finally. But instead, I'm riddled with anxiety about the kids, about finances, because I lost$65 ,000 more in cash in a big box store, and what PK is doing. I mean, how many Pringles is he eating right now? This is the worst feeling to live with. That was, and that's a feeling that you live with for 24-7. I might be dying here alone, but at least I know that Jigar has discovered something called Bunkoo.

28:37Doreed is making this dog food and Kyle's just staring at it and Doreed's like, so did you speak with Mo? Did you speak with Mo about PK? Do you have any gossip? You're my girlfriend. You have to prove yourself as a girlfriend, so you have to tell me the gossip that the guy said. And Kyle, of course, the friend that she is is like, no, I did not do this thing for you. Normally, I don't think it's actually Kyle's under any obligation to do this, but given that Kyle has been reprimanded several times for being a bad girlfriend, I kind of feel like she should have stepped up to the plate in this case.

29:07Well, and we see that when they were together a week ago, Dorit said, you know, listen, There's one thing about him saying, PK, listen, you got to stop. Maybe you can speak to Mo. You know, maybe you can speak to Mo, Kyle, and you can get advice of what he thinks. Like, how do I get through to PK? And Bozo's like, oh, Kyle, is that something you'd feel comfortable doing? And Kyle's like, of course, of course I'll do that. Of course, of course, no problem, I'll do that. So it does make it a big deal that Kyle is just like, no, why would I talk to him? I mean, I didn't do that. So Kyle. So she's like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

29:43Say it again. What? It doesn't advance my story. So why would I talk to Mo? Yeah. So it's like, oh yeah. Okay. Well, I do want to talk to him, but right now I'm going to walk back and forth around this Island. Like I'm actually preparing something in your kitchen. Cause I'm really uncomfortable around you. Did you notice she was doing that? She was doing like, when you have people over and you're in your kitchen and you're kind of getting stuff together for your friends, you know, it's like you're talking about, you're like putting the charcuterie or doing whatever. Carl's doing that. Like it's her kitchen.

30:11And she's so uncomfortable around Doreen. I love it. She was creating kinetic energy around that kitchen island in a way that I did not appreciate. So she's like, no, I do want to talk to him. I do. I know. I mean, I'm like, I mean, I want to know how you, but how do you think he can help? Like, if you still think that, oh, like, I was wondering how you think I could help, which is her way of saying, like, I don't want to do this. And I don't understand why I'm doing this. If you can give me any good explanation for why I should be doing this, maybe I'll do it, but I'm not going to do it. That's what she was saying right in that moment.

30:40Yeah, and she's like, well, honey, honey, honey, I'm in my weed's end. I'm in my weed's end. She goes, okay, well, then, you know, we can maybe figure something out. Kyle, I was serious, Kyle. I don't think you quite grasp how out of control big he is. He's out for blood. And the blood he's out for is very high in sugar content. Very high, Kyle. It's gout infected. It's like that. It's the hardest part, Kyle. The hardest part, Kyle. seeing potato chips that haven't been touched in the pink tree. You know what it's like. The other day, I had to FaceTime PK, and he had blood coming out of his mouth.

31:20And I said, why do you have so much blood on your mouth? And he said, it's actually the red gel kind of stuff they put on an ice cream cake at TCBY. I had no idea what that meant, but he wanted a lot of it.

31:35So she's, like, making dog food really furiously now. And I said, Coyle, I need your support, Coyle. And Kyle's like, I mean, you know, it doesn't even sound like it's being that bad. And he's like, Coyle, you don't even know him. You think you know Pique? Do you know the inside of Pique? Do you know the plaque-covered soul that is Pique, Coyle? And she's like, I know, but it's like, if I said that about Mo, like, you'd be shocked. Like, what about Mo? She's like, well, yes, but I wouldn't doubt anything that you would tell me, Kyle. She's like, well, I am not doubting you. continuing to be the worst girlfriend of all time.

32:11The amount that Kyle demands of her girlfriends and yet how reluctant she is to show up for Dorit. This is now the second season in a row she's acting like this. And Dorit's like, I would immediately say, oh my god, Kyle, I want to kill him. Gee, what an asshole. What a jerk. I can't believe. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And then I might throw in a scream kind of like, and you know, things like that. Well, I'm sorry i didn't react the way that you wanted me to react but i don't i didn't mean it like that and then she tells us yeah i just don't think it's smart to be speaking about your you know your ex so publicly i mean it's going to make your separation and divorce down the line and it's going to make it more difficult okay it's gonna it's so great to hear from the champion of being open and honest once again it's you know she's i'm really i'm so glad that she's like run off a few people from this show because they weren't being open and honest enough you know And clearly what people need to be is open and honest, unless it's your shit, in which case you actually hedge a little bit because it could be bad for something, you know.

33:14So I'm just so glad to see Kyle operating, you know, in full open honesty. Yeah, Kyle, the lead housewife on this show, is like, oh my God, why are you talking about this on a reality TV show?

33:28So Dorit finally puts that dog food down. It has been so overmixed. It's taken so long. Yeah. Like, if that was cookie dough, it wouldn't even have a chance. You know, it's just, like, totally overmixed. So Kyle's like, okay, well, I mean, I guess we'll see what we can say to Mo. I mean, sometimes it takes a friend to say the hard things to make you listen. But just remember, you know, he's coming hearing only PK's side. And PK's basically saying that, you know, Mo said that he's hearing the complete opposite. And that Dorit's putting him through a really hard time, you know, and making it really hard for him to see the kids.

34:04And Dorit's like, ah!

34:08The reason why Piquet is saying this is because he knows it's not going to be a good look if he's not around. I mean, not that it's ever mattered to him that it's not a good look to wear dockers that are made out of spandex that are three sizes too low for you. What are you, the wrapping on a potato dockers? Why is Kyle so shitty? She's being so shitty right now. So here she is being, Dorit is saying, PK is making my life hell. He's out of control. And Kyle's like, oh, well, because he's saying you're out of control. So, and Kyle's kind of acting like maybe we should rethink this because he says you're out of control.

34:44So maybe you're the one who's out of control. That's like the implication here. Or the implication is you're going nuts or whatever. And Kyle is, she's already kind of asserted to some degree that she's being a good friend because she's going to be, it's a good friend confronts someone with a hard truth, which is very funny. because when that mirror is held up to Kyle, she is not happy about it whatsoever. But like, I just think this is the second in a row where Kyle has really not been a girl's girl about this. She has reluctantly cut off, you know, contact with PK, which I don't even believe that she has.

35:15No, I don't either. And now like she's just sort of, she still just finds ways to stick up for him in little, just like, if you want to do it privately, fine. But when you're with your girlfriend, like you should just be like all about team Dorit right now I firmly believe that and not try to be like well but PK says that you're kind of being the crazy one so well you're you're you asked like why is she doing that I think the reason that she's doing that is because she 100 % believes what PK is saying I think that she's seen their relationship and I think that in her opinion Dorit is crazy Dorit acted crazy in her relationship with PK she drove him away and you know that whole season when pk is like all i'm trying to do is do something romantic for you babe and all you care about is your glam and you'll you know when he did the pretty woman thing with um welcome yeah uh that whole season where he was just such a victim because you know dorit only wants the money and that's all she cares about and i think that kyle firmly believes that i think she thinks dorit's an asshole dorit's crazy and now you know which is true pk was right to leave and um i think that i don't know whether that's a valid opinion or not because i'm not close enough to that really obviously i just watch it on tv but i totally 100 agree with you that kyle is a terrible friend and like she said last year she's not really even friends with like she knows to read from cup being a couple and being on the show but she doesn't even go hiking with to read so i think she's like no pk's funnier i like pk so i i think you're right and i think that, you know, I do think it sounds like Kyle really does think that Dorit is too much because the thing is, as Kyle has issues with Dorit and her own relationship with Dorit.

37:01And so she can't help but side with PK on some of these issues. But that being said, if you feel that way, if you do feel like Dorit may be the one who's more at fault for the relationship falling apart, then like, don't get so upset when people accuse you of being a bad girlfriend or anything like that and i mean admittedly like kyle did say well i'm really not that good friends with her so but it's like she can't just stay pick the lane and stick with it it's like you either do the honestly guys i'm friends with dorit but we were never really that close which by the way it was a lie because obviously they were close but like if you don't really if you think that dorit is the one who's at fault here and so then stop pretending like you want to be the girl's girl for her yeah she's now caught up with this image that she has where people don't think she's a girl's girl anymore so now she's got to prove that she's a girl's girl yeah when she's really like not her heart's not in it yeah agreed and i do think it's from kyle's past relationship with dorit that she's she's taking pk's side because from what kyle said in the past when she had a problem with it's like dorit takes these little things and she's making this huge thing and she won't stop harping on it and she's trying to like ruin my reputation kyle's reputation you know she's like trying to ruin me over these stupid little things and making me look bad and none of it's true like she's exaggerating everything so i think she's taking that and saying okay well she's doing that to pk too you know and my opinion is that kyle and pk are both dicks so that's that's what that's what dorit has been reacting to but yeah i think that kyle's not really on dorit's side but she's i think you're right she's just playing it for the audience you know and you can't have it both pathways, Kyle, unfortunately.

38:41So Dorit is saying, you know, he doesn't even want to see the kids. It's like he's gone for a month and then he flies in town without telling everybody and just just like, OK, well, I want the kids. But, you know, they have a schedule and they have school and they have, you know, God knows what they have after school. I mean, they're Dorit's kids. So, you know, I'm sure it's like ballet, tap, jazz, piano, violin, cello, you know, I'm sure it's nothing to do with like financial EQ. Financial IQ. But you know, she was like, you can't just drop in whatever you want. Right. So Kyle's asking what the plan is for next steps with this situation.

39:23And she's like, well, I've been trying to do mediation for months. And he keeps pushing it and pushing it and pushing it. Little jabs, little jabs. And Kyle's like, um, so you're saying you won't even do mediation? Have you asked Andy Cohen? Can he do it for you? Because I mean, like, you can't like fight that battle alone. And she's like, yes, but if PK and I can't come to some sort of agreement, we're going to have to go to court. And if we go to court, things become public and ugly and it's war. And I don't think PK wants that. And I know I definitely don't want that at all. So she is basically saying, like, like maybe I need to speak to Mo, which probably, by the way, Dorit probably wanted to just go directly to Mo first.

40:02but she knows she wouldn't be allowed to do that because Kyle would bite her head off even though Kyle has no problem sending memes and hanging out with PK. So Dorit probably had to go through this whole rigmarole of asking Kyle to do it first, knowing Kyle would never do it until Kyle would come back being like, um, could you do it instead? Because I don't want to be in this situation. So now Dorit is saying that she's floating this idea that maybe I need to be the one to speak to Mo because if there's anything that Mo can say, maybe I actually need to tell Mo the truth and the reality which by the way this is not going to work either because he's going to be either stoned or he's just going to be focused on his phone and it's going to be bros before hoes so good luck with that tweet yeah he's just going to be like uh huh okay uh huh I'll take the shrimp scampi okay okay this was fun I have to go to Coachella now I gotta go I gotta go see a sick set with Post Malone and Addison Rae so can we wrap this up yeah so now Dorit's gonna go speak with Mo good luck with that so now we go to Rachel guess what Rachel's doing it's another Rachel and her son Kai is seen can't wait she's picking her kid up from camp she's like oh my god being late is like my worst nightmare because like with my mom I was always like the last kid I was like always waiting you know it's so hard being like a 5 year old in a caftan in flip flops waiting for your mom to show up like statement necklaces are much heavier when you're a child It was hard.

41:30God, I love this backstory on her. Her mom was late. So she said, Kai, Kai, yes. Oh my God, here I am. I'm here. I'm on time, Kai. Am I the last one here? Oh my God. I'm like reliving my mom's trauma. Oh my God, Kai. So he gets in the car and she's like, tell me everything. This is like the longest we've gone without talking. Like, how was it? How was camp? He's like, yeah, camp was good. I moisturized every day, like every day and night.

41:59he's like trying to get that summer glow up mom yeah the juggles and the struggle is real because like i'm a mom and like people ask me all the time like how do you balance it like how do you and i'm like i fucking don't i don't have a nanny i'm like hands-on but i'm also like a ceo i don't know if you've been to home goods but i have pillows they're made out of fur they're right behind me actually you can see them in my office look faux fur rachel zoe pillows they're amazing like you know what that style is called dead it's just called dead do you know how hard that is to balance i don't balance i fall down mentally physically i don't fall down that's why i wear flip-flops i love flip-flops what are we talking about i have a son his name is kaius you want to meet him he moisturizes by the way his father's a real son of a bitch don't say i told you kaius do you moisturize oh my god someone called the funeral home.

42:51I just died. You know what's so funny? I almost called King Jordan and now he grew up to be a moisturizer. I'm like so proud. You know, all I want, all, you know, I always thought like I was gonna have one child and I'd be like a girl, a girl, and then I'd die. I named the girl bananas because the girl would be bananas that would have a girl that I want a girl that I have a girl. And then, you know, all I want to do is like dress my daughter, you know, like baby couture and then just like have her moisturize herself. But you know what? We make plans and the universe laughs and then the universe moisturizes.

43:18So here I am. You know what we're going to do? Watch me balance this. Okay, check this out. I'm in the kitchen. There's like bananas in front of me, like literal bananas. There's Rachel's old pillows behind me. I've got a son, a son who moisturizes. Now watch this balancing act. Kai, let's call it Sky Sky. Oh my God. How does she do it all? Like seriously, literally how? She's a CEO. She's a moisturizer. And she's got a kid. And she's going to call someone named Sky. Sky. Sky. How's it in Hampton Sky? Do they have moisturizer there? What kind of moisturizer are they using? Are you using your moisturizer, Sky?

43:55Sky. Sky, Sky. Sky, Sky. The name's so nice, I named it twice. Sky, Sky. So he's like, I'm chilling. You know, my friend just got like a Razor-like bike. So that's really cool. She goes, it's not an e-bike, is it? Because like literal death. That's like literal death. Okay, Sky, Sky. Literal death. Sky, Sky. I don't want you doing that because you're going to end up in the ground ground. Okay? Hey, Sky, Sky, please stop it. Sky, Sky. So Sky, Sky wants a razor. Does that mean we have to call you Sky Razor? Oh my God, nothing is everything. Seriously, Sky, I die. I die for that. And he's like, yeah, well, it's an e-bike and like it's small.

44:29It's just like Kaya says, oh my God. Kaya says it's small, but his is moisturized. Is yours moisturized? If yours isn't moisturized, I can't, I can't, I can't juggle that. I can't juggle it at all. I can't balance and juggle it. She's like, I'm not doing the ER with you again. Like if you even say ER in this group, Kyle Richards won't shut up. Okay. And like she had another face back then. It's so rough to talk about. Like it's so hard to talk about a period in my life of my friend's life where she was wearing scrubs every day. I mean, it's disgusting. Please don't take me back there, Sky Sky.

45:00You were hospitalized once. You can't be hospitalized again. Okay, please. And so we see pictures of him in the hospital after being on an e-bike. And he's like, whatever, mom. I'm a man. Yeah. Fuck yeah. I'm a dude. Yeah. Flavor town. I'm going to Flavortown, Piaz. Suck it, mom. He's got theory. Yeah. Literally Flavortown. Like I die for Flavortown. Like I never thought I needed to go there, but like I'm there. And you know what they serve there? Bananas. Because that's what it is. Don't get me wrong. Having boys is the most exhausting thing ever. But I mean, I wouldn't trade it for anything, except for like maybe an extra thing of moisturizer.

45:36I would do it for that. And then I would give the moisturizer back. I'd be like, I want my boys. I die for my boys. Take this moisturizer. I want my boys. Sky, sky, not to drive the backpack. Please, please, please. It's like, oh my God. I'd like to exchange this Louboutin for one sky and one chi. Please, thank you very much. Yeah, so she's like, oh my God, I didn't even hear anything past e-bike. What else did he say? You know what? They see me as their like real princess. Like they're so protective, even if I'm like screaming at them to get their dirty socks off the table or to stop like leaving crumbs all over the place because they eat with their mouths open or for those times they come downstairs and like you haven't even moisturized.

46:15They're still like, they treat me like they're princess. They like lift me up. That's what they do. And like they hold me when I don't even realize I need holding. Rachel, you always need holding. You always look like you're about to fall over.

46:27She is like, she is like a Jenga puzzle 95 % of the way through. Like about one little brick. About one little brick. She's got one brick left. He has one brick left. So now Jennifer and Sutton are on their way to Kathy Hilton's. So who's coming to Kathy Hilton's party tonight? And it's going to be them and Amanda. And she's like, oh, Amanda. I'm sure that Kathy's going to enjoy Amanda. You know that she once had a reality show called Beverly Hills Bum Makeovers. I don't know. That's neither here nor there. but Amanda doesn't need a little help. I like Amanda because it's still episode four or five or so.

47:17So we're about to turn the corner on her but for right now I like her and I think she can be shy and reserved but she seems smart and she's younger. I like that. Okay, Sutton needs to start drinking again because she's lying. She's lying. Never in the history of Sutton has she ever said she likes someone And one of the reasons why is because she's younger. That does not work with Sutton. Sutton Brown or Sutton Strack. She's like, I like that. She's pretty. She's young and pretty. And she has so much potential. And she's in a healthy marriage. I like that about her. I just love that. I'm not lying Sutton.

47:51God, I love that. And the way she's saying it with her evil cat eyes, you know, she just gets this mean glint in her eyes. And she's got that glint in her eyes when she's talking. She's like, wow, look at her. So young. Got a fresh perspective on things. I just can't wait to talk to Amanda and find out all the different ways she's been triggered or traumatized. I cannot wait to be called a gaslighter for the first time. Yay youth. Yay youth. Elbow dancing. Elbow dancing. Elbow dancing. Ticky tocky elbow dancing. Can't wait. Tick tock. So we go to Kathy Hilton's house and the staff is there and Kathy is overseeing everything.

48:30And there's like all sorts of food. Kathy is She's like hi so I was thinking We could put some bee pollen on all the food You know me when I get on a kick A good old bee pollen kick And chef Dave is like oh yeah put some bee pollen On there fucking bitch I had a vision And she just destroyed it But Kathy is like you know She's like this is the super I'm telling you guys This is the super food of the year I'm telling you right now you know the bees are like Um hello We've been talking about honey and pollen for a long ass time Our lives are literally built around pollen, and now you're suddenly, quote, unquote, discovering it, Kathy Hilton.

49:06I don't think so, honey. Yeah, she's like the new superfood. Pollen, people. It's pollen. So Carol, who I love, truck driver Carol's like, all right, Kathy. She's like stalking up there. What do we got? What are we thinking, Kath? What do we want to change around? She's like, well, I see these little honey jars, and that's cute, but don't we have blue ribbon to put on them instead of the red ribbon? Can we do that? Could you maybe switch it to blue ribbon? She's like, got it. Blue ribbon. God damn it, Chef David. Do you want to die young? Get out here and change this motherfucking ribbon, David.

49:41What are you working for, amateurs? You're working for Kathy fucking Hilton. Anything else, doll? Anything else? I don't know. You know, I really don't like that bees have stingers because it really, they really don't come off as soft as you really want them to. All right, David, get down here and pull the stingers off the motherfucking bees, David. All right, this is an amateur hour. God damn it. For the entire time, Carol is wearing one of those Ralph the Wren teddy bear sweaters to soften her image. I know. That's what I love about her. So Kathy's like, yeah, well, when I lived in New York, I used to work at the Waldorf.

50:20I was a waitress and Rick was a bartender. So I saw the most beautiful parties. Oh, gosh, it was like art. I want my parties to be an experience which is why the next time I see red ribbon someone's going to get hung with it I know Kathy's saying that she wants her parties to be an experience it wasn't an experience with the red ribbon but then once it turned into blue ribbon I was like whoa transported totally different life so Jennifer and Sutton arrive and Jennifer's like hello how are you nice to meet you Charmed, charmed, charmed I'm sure charmed, hello, hello And Everyone's showing up And son's like, guess what?

51:05I got you a candle from the one place you haven't been to this summer Marrakesh And, you know Kathy was like Just like, okay, thanks very much Marrakesh candle And we see that Kathy was in Naples, Italy And Dallas, Texas this summer Well, I should have Wrapped up my Smells like St. Lucia candle.

51:32Sparkling water for Sutton. Look at that. Another fabulous day with Mrs. Brown. This should be fun. So Jennifer's like, let's open as many bottles as we can tonight because maybe Amanda will want some Cabernet. And Kathy's like, oh, I'm excited to meet her, which is a first probably of anyone ever saying that about Amanda. so Jennifer's like well I met her briefly and she came into my party and I had a party oh you missed it oh yeah I heard about your party and then we see a flashback to the homeliest homeliest nude models we've seen on Bravo in quite some time again this show sometimes could take some notes from Married to Medicine they really they know how to do the nude model game yes they've got the good supplier for the strippers for sure Yeah.

52:24And Kathy's like, I would have been so embarrassed with penises showing. Well, some people were going to flee. So then Amanda comes and she's like, wow, are you talking about the penis party? Yeah. Oh, hello. I'm Kathy. Hello. God, you look extremely. Are you on sale? You look extremely tacky. Extremely tacky. I'm going to say that right. She just looks at her like, oh, you're tacky. I don't know this girl just reads tacky Kathy gives Amanda so many nasty looks in this scene it's hilarious Kathy's patented like disapproval look is she'll be like eating something at her plate and then she'll sort of like have her head down but she moves her eyes up to look at you and it's like when Kathy gives you that look it's like oh you've got like five more seconds to prove yourself that you're like worthy of her time and then it's like done forever she glares She does glare.

53:21She'll be like, look at me, just innocent Kathy. Laser eyes. So the producer asks Amanda, so this is your first time meeting Kathy. Have you heard of Kathy? She's like, I mean, she's Kathy fucking Hilton. Yeah, I've heard of her. Well, have you ever felt like a fish out of water in these fancy Beverly Hills situations? And she's like, no, I feel like I belong in any room I want to be in. okay we'll say that when you uh eventually have a court case um do you feel like you belong in this courtroom yeah so so caviar is for caviar and um it's gluten-free a gluten-free there's some gluten-free crackers or whatever or blinis and amanda's like oh my god so i have to be gluten-free and caviar and cucumber slices is my favorite way i have caviar every day actually guys sorry i actually like buy it like i'll go to the store and they'll go to the caviar store and i'll just like buy it.

54:16Yeah. I like have a problem biting my nails. And so I'll actually like put caviar under my nails so that when I buy my nails, like I get caviar, like literally every second of the day, you guys, I'm totally a caviar person too. By the way, did I mention I'm gluten-free because I am gluten-free, even though this was just offered to me as a gluten-free thing, I need to stress that I am gluten-free. So I don't know what it's like sitting with your gluten, but I know what it's like having cucumbers with my cat, which I have all the time. And there's like this weird moment. So she, she gets her caviar with the cucumbers and she just talks about, she's like, yeah, I had to figure that out.

54:50I had to figure out caviar and cucumbers when I realized I was allergic to gluten. And so then it was so hard. I tried eating caviar with so many different things. Popsicles didn't work. Tires didn't work. It was a real R and D process for her. And so then it goes over, it goes over to Sutton and she takes one. She goes, well, I'll just do the normal way. And then it cuts to Amanda and it goes like, Amanda's so angry that her view is being viewed as the non-normal, the abnormal way. Abnormal. So Carol comes over. She's like, sorry to interrupt this gap fest, but dinner's ready to go, ladies. So head down to the summer dining room.

55:30We're going to be ladies today, everybody. Sunday, Sunday, Sunday. There will be food. well i've never stayed at a house this long it's crazy it's been 18 years and amanda goes yeah that's a long time when i bought kyle's house i thought yeah it's just like such a great house i just thought i was gonna renovate it and give it what it needed which is like everything am i right he's so tacky but you know now that we're getting attached to it i mean i've made really beautiful decisions you know amic sent me a black card and so i covered it in glitter and photographed I laughed it and had it blown up to wall size.

56:04And now it's like in my hallway. It's like crazy. Black card. That's right. By the way, black cards are gluten free. I ate caviar off of one the other day. I did chip a tooth. But luckily I had the tooth replaced with caviar.

56:19Kathy gives, when she says that she's made some really beautiful decisions on Kyle's house, Kathy gives her first really nasty looks. like it's like what's yours so something goes i'm starting to notice that amanda might be the kind of person to one up or measure up she's got to make it known i have that too i do that too oh i have that too that is correct but also look at the person who's asked you're kissing it's carl richards like that's literally her her yes that's her entire like persona is walking to a party being like where'd you get that you got that where'd you get that watch you have that watch oh my god let me look at your watch look at your watch i'm getting that watch i'm getting the watch the house that amanda is talking about renovating had kathy hilton stolen floors and erica jane stolen pink neon and lisa vanderpump's stolen uh pink thing in the back swing in the back i mean you're right yeah she was like dismantling all of the one-ups that kyle had done it's like a one-upper coming for a one-upper so it's really good yeah and um so then we see a montage of of Amanda being an asshole.

57:28So we now see them walking in 30 minutes earlier and Jennifer's like, oh, this is Carol is Cathy's right hand woman. And Cathy goes, left hand, right hand. And Amanda goes, I have one of those, yeah. Both metaphorically. And I also have like a left hand and a right hand. So you can say like, I'm a big hand person. Yeah. And then 10 minutes earlier, Jennifer's like, I love eating outside. Yeah. I think we eat most meals outside during the summer at my house. Yeah, both houses. I have two houses and like 10 cars. Sometimes we'll eat outside in a car. Does that count being outside? Because the car is not in the garage of one of the two houses.

58:05It's like a Jaguar. No, we'll be in like a Rolls Royce. Yeah, we'll be in a Rolls Royce that's outside. Or sometimes we'll eat outside in a car in front of like, I'm going to build another house inside my other house so I can be outside two houses at the same time. And that house, I'm going to make beautiful choices with that house too. Just want to say. Yeah. and so now we come back and Kathy's like sometimes when people talk a lot I just I tune out I tune out but she's not tuning out she's listening to every little thing and Amanda's just going on and on she's like yeah now that Kyle's house is almost done I'm like I'm sure we're selling this house it was just so ugly like the memories are traumatic so but you know like we're gonna get rid of it but I'm like I just made this so amazing like we just finished the tennis courts last week do you have those I do I have like and pickleball you can play pickleball on them too, which is you can ice skate on them, which is crazy.

58:55You can land planes on my tennis courts. It's like a, it's like a helipad spaceship landing tennis court pickleball. Ice skating rink. We invited John McEnroe over and we said, sit in this putty. And we made a mold of his butt. That way every chair that's around the tennis court perfectly fits John McEnroe. So that way if John McEnroe ever gets cloned and all of his clones come to see us walk the tennis, they're very comfortable. So they're all grossed out with her because she's ridiculous. And she's bragging to some of the richest people in memory. So they're like, you're gross. And so dinner arrives and Kathy's like, it's organic.

59:33So, yeah, I love organic things. Like I'm allergic to non-organic things. So thanks. So there, you know, Jennifer's saying, well, I thought that maybe Kyle would be here for dinner. And Kathy was like, well, she couldn't make it. And yeah. so jennifer's like well you know with kyle kyle obviously because you know you bought her house and i was like yeah we're we're friendly just from like running into each other i just like run into her a little faster than she runs just just saying and like you know like just like knowing each other from like from like the purchase and everything like at the glenn center or you know glenn that's where you find glenn's you know she remember she had glenn i got two glenn's actually and jennifer's like well i'm i'm just really interested to see where somebody who's like coming in and like seeing and meeting and like what did you think about dorit jennifer is just like i want you to trip right now so i'm gonna ask you about every single person in the cast and we're gonna we're gonna we're gonna mind you for information and use it against you so i'm going to stick my foot out and wait for you to trip over it and see if you fall is what I'm doing.

1:00:43So what did you think about Dorit? And she's like, well, I mean, the first time I met her, and she's like in total distress. So like, what am I going to say? You know? And then we see a flashback to Dorit being like, Jigga, who's Jigga anymore? Walking around with the weight of the world on his shoulders saying, I want Florida, please take me to Grandma and Grandpa, Florida. Do you know what that's like for me? and so that's that was that lunch that we saw and then uh but then amanda says we're back to present she's like so i thought about her a lot and then like when i got to have lunch with her i was like so happy to talk to her and like hear the whole situation and be there for her and i just i've just been thinking about i've just been trying to like manifest something for her like i don't know like a snickers bar i think it's gonna happen soon guys um and then but then she says but I was happy to talk about it with her and I started wondering like is like her talking to everyone going to affect her divorce in some kind of negative way and then she says that after having lunch with that lunch that we saw with Boz and Dorit she thought she was like oh god PK such a douchebag like fuck you know fuck PK team Dorit and then she went and had lunch with Kyle and we knew it because exactly what she said is exactly what Kyle said like I'm wondering is this or is her talking bad gonna affect her divorce which is exactly kyle right so then we see kyle telling her like her saying stuff about how he's parenting uh that worries me i mean last year she would say things that would come out and he'd get upset so like that makes me nervous i mean like she accused of being a goddamn alcoholic which she doesn't say but that's what kyle did in her first season so i think it's so funny that kyle's like so up her own ass about it so she's like oh my god like she was adding fuel to the fire?

1:02:34What was she doing? She goes, yeah, yeah, she's adding fuel to the fire. Well, last year she did say that he's like a raging alcoholic. And Amanda's like, yeah, and he didn't like that at all. Well, who would? I mean. Who would? But we see that clip of Dorit saying, he's like a fully blown alcoholic. He's gonna, just like explode any moment. Like, get off the volcano because the pyroclastic flow of alcoholism is coming down the mountainside. and if his alcoholism was was a gas tank it would be full full alcoholic 100 % alcoholic right if it was a rotten tomato score it would be a hundred percent rotten alcoholic so then we go to uh the bravo's hot mic podcast with alex baskin and pk is like i mean dorit's lack of understanding about sobriety is not her fault she hasn't invested in it There's no fully blown alcoholic.

1:03:32You're either an alcoholic or you're not. So it was emotionally difficult for me to watch it. I'm sorry. I like, yeah, he's right. It's like you're alcoholic or not. Like there's no, but like Dorit was just like emphasizing, like this is like a, this is a situation. This is like a full blown situation. That's how I took it. And he's going to like kind of discredit her for everything because she was, you know, emphasizing something. I don't know. I feel like PK was being slippery in that moment. Well, it's also incorrect. I mean, there are different degrees. You've got the Meredith situation on Salt Lake City where it's like, is this a thing where it's a problem?

1:04:10And then you've got the Dorinda where it's like, oh, that's a full-blown alcoholic. That is some committed alcoholism. So, I mean, there are different. And also, PK, just shut up, PK. Just shut up. But I do like when they show clips from the Alex Baskin podcast because I love Alex Baskin's face. No matter who he's interviewing, this is his face. i know he's disgusted by it he's just like he smelled a fart it's like they he's like can i have a podcast studio that just smells like fart so i can get into character every day because he could be interviewing like i don't know bet midler and he'd be like but also what's funny is that like i feel like last season pk his whole thing was just like you know his whole thing was like i'm an alcoholic i'm sober now this is my journey i'm sober but But like, but he's like, really, he does, really does not like, I guess, you know, I take it back.

1:05:07Even if you are like, you know, embracing that this is the new chapter in your life and like acknowledging that you have an issue they have to deal with. It's still not nice to have to hear someone say, well, there's a full blown alcoholic. So, you know, I was about to like, be like, but you said you were an alcoholic. So she's allowed to say it. But then I was like, no, I understand. I understand if you're going through it. But if you're in recovery, you don't really want to hear someone just like taking out their forks and knives and like really going to town on it. So I will give PK that reluctantly.

1:05:39But I also feel like in the case of that podcast, he was still kind of like using that as a get out of jail card free. Like nothing, nothing that that Dorit says, none of her complaints are even valid because, look, she called me a full blown alcoholic. And that's not even a thing that you can say about someone. So therefore, all this evidence is dismissed. And that was the vibe I got off of him, and I did not appreciate that.

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