#3162 RHOSLC S617 Reunion 1 Part Two: Luxe Tag Teams and Lively Lashings

0:20Hi everyone, welcome back. This is part 2 of a two-part recap. If you're wondering where part one was, well, go check in the feed and be sure to subscribe. That way you always get your episodes. But enough of that. Let's get right back into the episode. So Andy is like, OK, well, as anyone who's ever watched Whitney tried to do a wordle would say, we're not going to solve this. So just stop talking. All right. We've got a lot of comments from people about your smoky eye in the interview. Lisa, you want to talk about that? Oh, yeah. yeah okay so i mean it's like much lighter than everything okay so like i'm in the glam chair and i'm like not paying attention anything at all and like i love my makeup artist and she's amazing and kind and sweet and everything to me and like you know she just like messed up you know well is she here with you today no has she worked with you again yes she's worked with me again um i sent her to a work camp in cambodia um and i think she's doing really great i've seen a lot of a lot of workers with smoky eyes.

1:25And I mean, it basically looks like, you know, workers doing a tribute to the Heather Gay black eye moment in season two. Love you, girl. Season three or season four. I mean, I don't really remember the seasons. I'm reverse tippy hedron. So Lisa, Mary's like, well, why was your eye like that? She goes, well, I mean, I probably cried in the confessional. And like one of my lashes probably came off. And then it probably was one of those exploding lashes that had an ink sack in it. So it exploded all over my eye And no one noticed Because I saw that the rest of my face was so pretty They were distracted So it was like an honest mistake Yeah, you know what?

2:01I went for a look and it didn't land It just didn't land, sorry Okay, well, Beverly from Hills says Angie, are you trolling Lisa with your Arby's And Codeego partnerships? What is Codeego? I don't know what Codeego is But whatever the Arby's is It's probably not called Codeego Oh, is it Kodobo, maybe? Is it a Kodobo partnership? I don't remember what he said. Could it be Kodigo, Kodobo? Any partnership that you have. Are you trolling Lisa? Are you trolling Lisa with your Dingo Stole My Baby partnership? And she's like, no, not at all. I've had some really amazing brand opportunities that came to me.

2:44He's like, oh, that seems like a slight troll. It seems like a slight troll. It's not a troll. If you get like a – the fast food company may be trolling Wendy's, but if Arby's comes up and says we want to put you in a commercial, you're going to be like, sorry, I can't do that. That's like trolling Lisa. It's like, no, give me that bag and I will announce that we have the meats, okay? And by the way, that is also a direct message to Arby's. If you need me to do some SponCon, I will because I enjoy my Arby's. And I'm very upset that the Arby's on Sunset Boulevard has been demolished and the sign is nowhere to be seen.

3:19That was an iconic sign. I mean, not for the sign being gone. I missed that sign, too. But that place needed to be demolished. That bubbly meat is disgusting. And Wendy's, I'm here for you. Arby's, Mr. Arby, please don't listen to my podcast partner. I will do your SponCon. No, I think you should get an Arby's and I should take a Wendy's. No, even better yet, you know who I'll fight to the death for? Whataburger. That's who I will go to the map for. They're amazing. And I will fight for you, Whataburger. Call me. All the fast food. Honestly, I'm not going to lie. I'll do it all. Give it to me.

3:53Put it in my veins. Yeah, Arby's is the only one I find completely revolting. But the other ones I'll do. So I like the word pretending we have a chance. Yes. No one's listening. Let's just keep weighing our options here. You have no options.

4:11Angie's like, well, I could see why you would think that. But they're not going to come to me based off my line. Like, you do French fries, I do French fries I mean, why wouldn't I do it? Why wouldn't I do it? I am Greek And Andy says, well, what was your reaction to the Arby's ad? And Lisa's like, I didn't even see it You know, I just found out, like, last night Like, it was so funny Like, last night I found out Because, like, people have all benefited from my wins So, that's exciting for them You know what? Good for you You're welcome Uh, not really, but thank you, though I am Greek Lisa's such a liar, I just found out last night Come on.

4:47No, she knows. Wait, we can do brand campaigns because of you? What? So you're the one who's been exploiting my vagina all this time? I mean, if I were a credit card, I'd probably sue you for identity theft. It's like wanting to skid me and be me. Why don't you just try to be me? I mean, why don't you take off one of your eyelashes right now and blame your makeup person? Just be me. Just do it, Snakey. Okay, okay, so everything everyone does is on your back? Is that what you're saying? No, but like when you're copying everything I do, I mean, what do you want me to say? Wow, wow, wow. So, okay, well, do you want to skin me and be me when you did something with a brand that I've been partners with for 30 years and you've got your own product?

5:34Did you want to be NGK with Kerastase? I don't even have any idea what you use. You know what I mean? Like, I've never even heard it come out of your mouth. Like, I'm the one who said Kerastase, so it came out of my mouth, so I got it. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. You know, I'm sorry that Kerastase is a bigger company now because of me. You know who I just read a sorry letter to you? Kerastase. I was like, I'm so sorry that you're richer now. You're welcome. Billy. Lisa, I'm the one who gave you Kerastase for the first time. It's like, yes, she brings bags of Kerastase to every event, just like the Pioneers did.

6:09Oh, tag team. Tag team. They're tag-saving. I don't know about Kerastos. I know about Kerastos because of Angie. And I know that's where you got it from. I know where you got it from. I mean, that's the only place it could have come from. It's from a place called Sephora. That's where it's from. That's where I got it from. I don't know what you people... I love that they're acting like only Angie has known what Kerastos is. It could have only come from Angie Katsunemis. The original Kerastos influencer. That's why this show is so funny. It's like, Lisa, you think that your success, everybody's success is off your back no because the only reason anybody of us knows what a hair product is is because of angie so angie everything is off of your back that's right it's also the only show that can go from a fight about um a lie about a miscarriage to i said carastas first um so welcome back everybody okay now we're gonna have um we've had a hundred episodes and a roster of famous fans like Rihanna, Julia Roberts, John Oliver, who crashed and burned when he said Meredith and Marks is wrong about everything a couple weeks ago and has been quoted in the halls of Congress.

7:22So let's go through the receipts proof time. Shut the fuck up with the receipts proof time. Just shut up with that. I've had it. I've had it with it. I've had it. It's done. It's over. Ha ha ha. Okay, great clip package. What a journey. I mean, this show has become such a huge part of pop culture and landscape. I mean, it's got to be wild to know that Julia Roberts has opinions about your show that she'll tell me because we're of the same celebrity class, but won't tell you because you are still reality stars. So I have to say during this big clip that they showed, they were showing all their best moments and their great reads and almost everyone had one, but Bronwyn didn't have one.

8:05I mean, they just had Bronwyn being like, oh, my God, like, I like your dress. Like, and there's a reason. He has good reads. I mean, Bronwyn has, I'm just, I can't remember. Bronwyn doesn't have any, like, iconic lines from the show, does she? I can't think of any. She had something that was really good. Like, she's had some great clapbacks, you know, like, she's had some, I mean, at the very least, they could have had her reading the line about one foot in the grave and one on a banana peel. I mean, like, she's. That wasn't hers. We all know Bronwyn can clap back really well. I just can't remember her clapbacks.

8:41But I look at the editors or anyone who makes gifts. What a coincidence. But I'm sure it's happened. I don't know. Bronwyn is – I mean she had that black credit card moment earlier in the season. That was a good one. Oh, no, that was last year. That was last year. She had that moment with the black credit card at the – what's it called? The Breakfast at Tiffany's party. she had like she remember she kind of like put Heather oh you know what about that thing she also had that great moment at Palm in Palm Springs where she like she read Heather not Heather she read Lisa in the pool I just don't remember it's just it's like my brain is mush but it was a really good moment that was in all the trailers he's dismissed taste us taste us taco Taco.

9:33Taco. Okay, we got to work on this now. Okay, we're going to be at our time. All right. Okay. What a journey. And Mary's like, wow, what a pinch me moment. Julia Roberts, that's like huge. Even though I don't approve of her playing a hooker that time. She wanted to dress. I didn't even know that movie was about being a hooker. So my husband told me. Inbred woman. So did you ever think you would make it to season six, Meredith? She's like, no, I thought my maximum would be five years. then maybe that would have been a good idea.

10:08Okay, well, you know, Whitney, how do you look back at this experience? Well, when I started this show, I promised myself and I promised Justin that if I was going to do this, I would, um, uh, line. You'd be vulnerable, stupid. Just say you'd be vulnerable. I'd be vulnerable and stupid. And dumb. That's stupid. God. And then I would say something that would be so stupid. And then I would share. I said, you know what? When I signed that contract, I looked at that bottle of Hershey syrup. I said, you're coming with me to stardom. Get on the floor. I remember promising Justin that I would stand up for my vagina being exploited.

10:53And I did it. I said, I'm going to be real. More real than anyone else has been. because I'm a real housewife and I'm the realest of the real.

11:09Mary, when you started, I feel like you were defined by your unconventional relationship with your grandfather. And what's interesting now is that I would say of everything, like it's kind of at the bottom of the paragraph. I mean, no one even cares that you're married to an old man anymore. It turns out Bronwyn's husband's fupa has taken over. Would you like to thank Bronwyn's husband, Todd? Go ahead. Just say thank you right now, Mary. Go ahead. Well, I don't know. I kind of felt like I wasn't part of the group, and they didn't include me in the beginning. And I mean Meredith did. I mean Meredith did.

11:43But like now I just feel like I see good in all of them. I see beauty in all of them. And I just want them to be able to take accountability and grow and evolve. And I feel like if I could say two words to help, I will. And I just – I kind of fell in love with them. I don't know. Yeah. I don't know what's come over me. You told me that I couldn't be on this show anymore until I pretended to be nice to everybody. So I'm doing it. What the fuck do you want from me? I am glad that she gave Meredith credit for being the only person nice to her because that's true. And you are a Judas. So Andy's like, well, that's nice.

12:16So Lisa, do you consider yourself after being on this show for six years? Yeah, I mean, it's basically 12 because Lisa performs in dog years. It's amazing. Like I just won best decade in television. Thank you. Yeah. Thank you. But anyway, yeah, I do. I'm 100 % misunderstood by viewers. They just don't get it. Like they don't, they're not like bilingual enough to understand like fabulous. Yeah. Like the trees get me, but like no one else. And like when Pink came out with that album called Misunderstood, I was like, oh my God, why is my face not on that album? Because that's me right now. I'm basically Pink.

12:55Yeah. Yeah. You know what? Delusional. that's like a common theme that like people use that don't understand me because I'm not delusional. I'm like very grounded. Like I'm a very hard worker. I love my family. I love my workers who love my family. I love my workers who like are making this, um, this, this part of my new home that like lets me touch the ground. It's called the floor. Everybody's going to want them, Andy. Everybody's going to want them. You guys, delusion isn't just a river in Egypt. So like think about that a little bit. Yeah. It's also a link and the Adirondacks. Thank you. Thank you.

13:36Okay, guys. I know you've all been waiting for a monologue and here it is. Sisterhood, get ready because here it comes. I feel this rush of, I don't know, affection and pride and I love that girl so much from season one. That was really, really hard, you know. I knew what they were saying about me, which was, we love Heather Gay. She's so great. And that girl is gone. And I knew what people were saying. And I took it on the chin. I took it on my old chin and I got a new chin. So what do you think about that, America? What do you think about it? And I didn't care because it was an opportunity of a lifetime.

14:09And even though I was at my lowest physically and emotionally and financially, but not fashionably, I just was going to let the opportunity, I wasn't going to let it pass me by just like the opportunity was to not wear a bolero jacket to a wedding. I was going to make sure that I took it and do whatever I could with it. And even if it meant I'd become a three-time New York Times bestselling author, I would have to do it. And I did. Regardless of people saying I didn't deserve to be there, I rose. I came through. Me, Heather Gay, did the brave thing of taking on a role on Real Housewives. Wow, you're really going to win the Pulitzer for that one.

14:50Jesus. I like that she was talking. I mean, like, it's crazy that she's like, you know, I was at such a low point. I know what people were saying about me. And I have to assume that what she's meaning is that she was, like, fat shamed or body shamed or whatever. But, like, also at that time, people loved Heather Gay. They were like, she's great. She's the star of the show. She's so wonderful. She's, like, an every woman. You know, like, we all – she's, like, a great Greek chorus. so it's like she actually it makes me actually a little sad if if like she wasn't able to take away those those comments that were said about her at that time because now actually the audience has a very large part of the audience has turned against her and it makes me kind of sad if she doesn't realize how actually she was beloved back then and like it feels like she's lost her way a little bit yeah um yeah i feel so sad um so and he's like okay well we're gonna leave it here Here's to 100 more episodes By the way How about 1 ,000 more God I don't know It hurts my butthole I've got children Okay let's take a break We're back Okay ting ting ting I have an announcement Brittany's joined us On the reunion stage Brittany And she's like Brittany's teeth come out And they're like I'm so happy to be here Andy And he goes I know you are She's like I mean and I came with my emotional support bear look everyone I brought a little build-a-bear so Andy's like Does it speak oh my god.

16:23Thank you for asking me look here's the message. I Really do love you birdie and I always will no matter what happens. Oh, yeah Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Especially no matter what happens on the show. I just came into another woman. I think there's a tag team happening on that bear, by the way. I see Paris. I see France. I'm in a hooker's underpants. Yeah. He's such a joker.

17:00Print it. Send it to Britney Print it in the mirror So Andy's like He'll love you no matter what happens On the show She's like well I don't know what that means I mean I guess so Let's just skip that second part But that's okay he does love me He loves me Okay let's move on So this season we had an Avengers style Merging of Bravo Multiverse With a historic crossover Below deck

17:34So we see flashbacks to that whole trip. And then Andy's like, okay, first of all, what was it like being on another show's turf? And, you know, they're all like, what was the other show? Below Deck. Not familiar. Is that some sort of home renovation show about adding decks to your house and then living below that deck? I'm not familiar with this other TV show. Andy, we didn't even know we were on another show. We don't even notice cameras anymore. We don't even notice production crews. Like we were just on a trip. Wink, wink. Okay, well, are you worried about what the reverse point of view will reveal?

18:16You know, they're like, why would we worry about what the service are doing? Heather and Angie are the only people watching that show. Everybody else is there. I don't watch that. Mary's like well I think maybe Heather and Whitney might have something to worry about especially with the cucumber situation when they're being unchaste and we see flashbacks to stupid cucumber the cucumber thing I'm already I was done with it when it initially happened because it's like why do we have to pretend like we don't know who the cucumber belongs to you know whose luggage that is you know whose room you're in why do we have to go with a stupid game and it's gonna come back next season on below deck I'm not happy about it.

18:50So, um, Heather's like, Oh, we had a good time in our room. Don't even see the cameras around me. And Brittany, you sure had fun flirting with the deckhands. What are you doing that to make Jared jealous or what? And she's like, um, it's so sad, but true. Like I didn't even know I was flirting until I watched it guys. And then I was like, Oh my gosh. So my daughter called, I just put it on silent. And I just can I just say that Heather was probably the biggest flirt. Heather was the biggest flirt. Heather, you were bigger than me. No, you disagree. You were. That's outrageous. You mean? Well, that's that's crazy.

19:29All you were riding on. What? No, I was just saying that, like, just because I grabbed on to the hunky torso of Captain Jason just to make sure I didn't drown. And by falling off the jet ski doesn't mean I'm a flirt. Did I whisper sweet nothings into his ear? Did I remind him that I was a three-time New York Times best-selling novelist and my next one would be about a torrid love affair with a lady and a captain who fuck on a charter? Maybe, but I wasn't flirting with him. Yeah, but you were riding on his back. And she goes, well, that's what you do. That's part of water skiing. That's essential.

20:04That's just technique. Okay, Heather, what is the final word on you and Captain Jason? Well, apparently the world had large bandwidth for what the phrase fucked around means. Because like, okay, we hung out like every day. We went to the clubs. We danced. We had sex. His penis went into my vagina. But like, I don't understand why people think that we actually had some sort of intercourse. He did me from behind. We didn't mean we've actually literally fucked around. Cut to the clip of Heather being like, oh, God, we've already fucked around. There was nothing there. I don't know how people got that impression.

20:42It's crazy. So, you know, this morning I woke up and Captain Jason was inside of me. And I said, it is going to be so hilarious watching people think that we had sex today. Isn't that hilarious? God. Guys, by the way, do I have anything in my teeth that may be left over of his chest hair that I was gnawing on this morning? So you didn't kiss? And she goes, no. And we were very clear about that, Andy. when we were kissing. We were very, very clear about it. I said, well, that's not how you're kissing. I just don't know how people got that impression, Andy. Meredith's like, wow, it doesn't seem very clear to me.

21:23Yeah, even Todd's fupa raised like a little tent. It wasn't clear to me either. Talk to you, Meredith. Good job. Good job. Listen, you guys, you don't think that I would scream from the rooftops if I landed Captain Jason You don't think I would yell, despite everything I'm saying, we had long sessions of sex. I had sex with the hot captain from Bravo. Even in a theoretical situation where it sounds like I'm saying I didn't have sex. Trust that I had sex with him. You don't think I would yell that out loud? You did, Heather. You went on national TV and basically said you fucked around with Captain Jason.

22:03Yes, you did. You did scream it from the rooftops. so it was just unfortunately for you stolen valor it was like stolen stolen dick value valor all right well hashtag stolen valor says on twitter bronwyn just because a case is sealed doesn't mean a person can't talk about it you just don't want to and we know that you can be liberal with the truth so what do you say to that bronwyn i like that we know that you can be liberal with the truth. She's like, oh, well, okay. Okay. Okay. I just want to remind everyone that I have long hair now. Okay. So look, the case being sealed does not mean that I'm part from talking about it if I was the one who asked for it to be sealed, but I was not the one who asked for it to be sealed.

22:47And so I've learned with my husband and my daughter that I have to be very careful about how I bring other people's business into this group. So I will not talk about their sealed portion of this case because I've been requested, even though it's not required, but it wasn't me who required the sealing of the case of the Ziploc, seal things in, you can take your sandwiches, they'll still be fresh two days later. And that's all I'm saying about it. And I think that that was very forthright. That was very forthright. That was really good. So outside of the sealed case and the eviction, were there other cases filed against you?

23:22Oh, good question. Good question. Okay, yes, yes, yes, Okay, there was something that happened in my workplace, and the case was fully dismissed against the person it was about, who wasn't me. And it was years ago. Listen, Andy, I just got my citizenship this year. You think America is just letting anyone in here? I mean, we all know. Okay, you could not get into America if you had a problem with the law. Unless I was running for the presidency, of course. I mean, I love America. It was sealed! It was sealed! Commercials. Here comes one right now.

23:56whisper whisper whisper Meredith hi Meredith whisper okay they weren't getting a reaction out of you until now but now I'm done whisper and then Andy's like um hey Meredith have you heard about other lawsuits or charges what are you guys whispering over there well I haven't tracked any of this okay I heard there were multiple multiple situations but I didn't pay that much attention I'm It's so hard to say, okay, but it seemed like you were just whispering right now during this whole thing. And I'm wondering, would you like to share with the class? Well, it wasn't about Broadway. And actually, it was something that needed to be noted in case we need to go back there at some point in time.

24:37So it was more like I put a sticky note on Lisa's forehead in the form of my whisper. That's what I did. She's my tag team partner. Is this some sort of a tag team thing like Jason did with my boobs? Because I'm just saying this seems like a tag team thing. Would you say it's a tag team thing? No, no. Do we look like we're running around the set playing tag? I don't think so. We don't need to tag team. We don't need to. Yeah, well, just saying that we might need to go back to, I mean, that seemed a little tag team-y to me. It seemed like that to me. You said I was tag team-y. We as a group may need to go back to the point.

25:13You said tag team-y. I just wanted to say it sounds like what's good for the goose might be good for the gander, even though that's usually a phrase that refers to men and women. But whatever, who cares, this is Salt Lake City I'll say whatever I want to I fuck the gander, I fuck the gander Who is saying I fuck the gander, that is insane You know, I'm sick of these allegations And I'm gonna go back to my DJ set Starting with the song Whoop, there it is Hey, that's my tag team Oh, I didn't realize That was their name I mean, you know what It seems like you recruited a whole team So why are you allowed to have a whole team But we're not allowed to have a tag team What's that about?

25:52I'm not supposed to speak to my friends, I guess. Well, well, okay. Well, we know I'm not supposed to speak or feel. We know that already. Nobody wants Meredith Marks to have a feeling. So I guess I'll just sit over here and feel nothing. Okay. Hey, everyone, if someone wants to shove me out into the cold, that's fine, because I apparently don't feel anything anyway. And if I wanted to do, I wouldn't be allowed to. So sure, send me off to Antarctica and I'll do some scientific discoveries for you because apparently I'm not allowed to feel anything. Yeah, you should. Don't use your voice, Meredith.

26:25They don't like it when you use your voice. Apparently I'm not allowed to use my voice. Apparently I could have made a deal with Ursula and it would have been fine. There would be no movie because I would lose my voice and no one would care about what would happen next. And Heather goes, don't worry. She won't use her voice. Dun, dun, dun. Heather, you don't have to do the dun, dun, dun. We take care of it in post. I didn't even do the dun dun dun I don't know why people are accusing me Of fucking Jason and the dun dun duns That is crazy And we're back My son lost his tooth No one cares Nobody cares The tooth will set you free Okay welcome back I'm Andy Cohen and here with the Glorious Real Housewives of Salt Lake City Do you all have your teeth Or at least some veneers in great I don't want to cry again.

27:18All right, Lisa once and for all Did you leak information about Bronwyn's pass to the press? That's ridiculous. That's ridiculous. That's so stupid That's so ridiculous. I mean whatever our well, okay. Well, I I don't What no no I was Tag teaming by saying the last syllable of my tag team partners words. Excuse me Am I not allowed to say syllables anymore? Is that what it is? Stop using your voice. Stop using your voice. They hate it. Okay, well, I don't think that Lisa leaked. I don't think she leaked it because leak is a very specific word. But I do think that she does make sure that the stories get traction about us when we fight with her.

28:01That's a lie. That's a lie. Okay, there's like some dumb stuff that comes up like on Twitter. Like I can read. Okay, I was an early reader. So that makes me really good at reading tweets. So if people were wondering, can Lisa read tweets? The truth is, if Twitter had been around years ago, I would have been able to read tweets before you guys. So I'm like an early reader. I started reading it like three and a half. Yeah. Like I started reading it three and a half years old. It was crazy. Like I was reading in the womb. I read my mom's belly button. Someday you're going to be able to read statements that are about 140 characters.

28:38and I was like, wow, I can do that because I'm three and a half years old and I can read already. My mother's belly button was a retweet button. I kept kicking it. I'm sorry. You know what? I'm sorry. Do you know what it's like to wait decades for technology to catch up with your reading skills? It's so hard. But, you know, the thing that was troubling for me is that I was on Twitter before we went on the trip and it wasn't really everywhere and I know we all got tagged in it, but then while we were on the boat somebody from the boat spoke to a media outlet and said Bronwyn was late because of those Twitter allegations.

29:11And you know what? That could have been somebody on the boat who knew I was late because of that. And that's what really pushed the story huge was that I came supposedly late to the gas trip because of all of this. And who did that from the boat? Who did that from the boat? That could have been anybody. That could have been production. And you did come to the boat late because of those allegations. You said it yourself. So who cares? The allegations were out there. And you just said they were already on Twitter. Don't come to the boat late next time because you saw what happened when Lisa didn't even go to the camping trip.

29:41And you also did tell your husband Lisa had something to do with those rumors. You saw it. We saw it on camera. You did it on camera. We saw it on the television, Bronwyn. Stop lying. Yeah, she did accusative of the leaks. Sorry to break it to you, but no one was thinking about you or what was going on with you. I was having the time of my la, la taco. You're really into the taco thing, Meredith. I'm so hungry. I'm sorry. What, am I not allowed to have a taco? I guess we all know Meredith Marks isn't allowed to have an opinion or a taco. Okay. There's the word life. Instead of your quiet and starving to death, is my stomach allowed to speak?

30:21It's growling right now. Be quiet, stomach. You're not allowed to feel things. Okay. Okay. Okay. Well, the only person I argued with on the boat was really you and Brittany. And I don't think it was Brittany. I don't think she's smart enough to understand how to use a telephone. Cut to Brittany combing her hair with a telephone. Somewhere that's free. You think I'm doing all this crazy stuff while I'm running a lounge and being a mom? Do you know how hard it is being a mom with a lounge? It's so difficult. I'm running a lounge. Do you know someone's got to fluff pillows? I'm just a mother. I'm a mother.

30:57A mother with a lounge. I don't have time for this. And I was like it's not crazy It's the click of a button Well you would know And Lisa's like it is crazy And I don't have an arsenal on anyone I don't give a fuck like whatever I'm a mother with a lounge Oh really then why do you have six attorneys Lisa Then why do you have cyber security If you're not leaking things Why would you Why do you go the distance Lisa Why do you go the distance If you're not leaking things to page six Because I love Hercules That's why, okay? I'm sorry, okay? When you've got a lot of lounges, you need a lot of lawyers.

31:34You need to have lawyers to have lounges, right? Isn't that what Karen Huger says? In order to lose lawyers, you've got to lose lounges, right? Am I doing it right? You know what? Like, this is so ridiculous. Do you guys even know what businesses I do? Because I'm like federally regulated. There. I'm federally regulated. The Department of Interior Lounges checks my lounges every single day. You know what? They come and they grade my lounge. Like it gets between an A, B, or a C. That's it. It's federally regulated, okay? So I'm sorry you guys can't deal with that. Yeah, it's very scary. I have to send a report to Vince McMahon every single week, making sure that my lounge is clean.

32:15Otherwise, I get barred, which is okay, because I actually also have bars. So when you get barred in the lounge industry, you just turn your lounge into a bar. It works out actually pretty well. I don't even understand your business, Lisa Barlow. What is Lux Marketing? And how do you make money? I just don't understand it. I mean, you're an event planner. You're an event promoter. What are you? You don't know what Lisa does now. I mean, come on, Heather. Okay. Let me break it down for you the way we break down a high top when a big party comes in. Okay? Are you ready to listen? Are you ready to listen?

32:46Are you ready to listen, Heather? Yeah, what do you do? What do you even do? I don't even understand it. I mean, what do parties need plans? That doesn't even make any sense. If you're right at Lothan, we incubate brands, okay, until they become full-sized chickens. And I own companies, and I incubate the companies, and then I create a company with Bella Twins. Yeah, the Bella Twins. It's called NNB, which stands for not a Bella, because I'm not a Bella, but it's my company. And then we sold it. We sold it like two or three years ago to like the Bella Triplets. Haven't heard of them? Well, that's too bad, because we know about them, and we sold it to them.

33:23yeah it used to be the Bella Triplets but then I killed one to make the business stronger and then we sold the business and it exited beautifully sorry triplet sorry you just didn't make it into the branding but I'm a brilliant brander that's what I do Heather what do you do Heather she's like um I mean look at my face it says everything that I do I'm a walking resume what do you do it's like Bella Twins that's all and Meredith's like I was at multiple events from that three actually, but one we pretended never happened. Okay, we got rid of that one. Well, I went to an event for that, but I heard you're not friends with any of them anymore.

33:57Oh, okay, so now you do know what she does, but the Bella Twins hate her. Oh, okay, so we're on to that. God forbid. She's like, no, I'm still talking. Yeah, you know what? Are you going to listen? I'm going to tell you the same thing I told the triplet before she was axed. Are you going to listen? No? Okay, bye. Goodbye. Good luck. Go see if you can join Hampson or something because you're done here. I just, Lisa gets so mad. She's like, you've been to events with Daniel Radcliffe and the Bella Twins, and now you don't know what the fuck it is. Get out of here. I invited you to my Daniel Radcliffe event.

34:31You met Harry Potter through me, and you're going to pretend you don't know what I'm doing for a living? Whatever. Shut up, Heather. And she's like, well, I mean, I know that you sold tequila. Maybe you did that. And she's like, oh, really? Are you really that disgusting that you're going to question? son, have I make my money when you've been invited to events with Harry Potter? Like, seriously? How could you do that? And Bronwyn's like, why is it disgusting to ask her a question? Mm-hmm. Says Bronwyn, who every time someone asks her a question, well, I actually think that, like, for you to ask that question is, like, incredibly rude because, like, I'm here and I'm, like, dealing, I've got my head in a fupa every single night and you don't even understand that.

35:14I can't believe you're even asking me anything when we have a truce and I have it sealed and it's sealed and I'm a lawyer and Tom cheated but he didn't cheat. I got the necklace. I didn't get the necklace. I never said I got the necklace. I did say I got the necklace.

35:28The head full of bullshit explodes all over the stage. And by the way, you're tag teaming right now. What'd you say? By the way, you're tag teaming right now. Yeah, so, you know, Heather's like, but does anyone know? Does anyone know what Lux Marketing does? Does anyone know? I'm like, to be fair, Lisa Barlow has been documented on Bravo many years ago, marketing, because Lily Galecci called up Lisa Barlow and asked Lisa Barlow to help her with her bathing suits. And that's on camera. And that clip is out there. I've seen it with my eyes. So Lisa has been working. She does work. So do you ever see that clip?

36:08Yes, of course. We recapped that clip. Just want to make sure. Just want to make sure. Yes, yes. So Lisa's like... I'm with you. I just don't want to. I'm just being quiet because I don't want to go too hard standing for Lisa's business when I'm I honestly I don't know I looked it up I can't tell Fresh Wolf the domain is for sale um you know that stuff is true I don't really know what she I mean I she's a she explains it now and I kind of get it better but I just the whole I don't want to stand up for someone's business on Housewives because we've seen how that goes before so I've just I don't want to do that but I will say you you know, Heather, who's like, I'm all about women empowerment and women business.

36:46Like her suggesting that Lisa just is getting money fraudulently from, what is she suggesting? I guess I'm trying to figure out what she's suggesting. Like we never know where it was down with you. Like she called her a risky friend earlier. Like, who are you? What are you? I don't get it. I think she's trying to insinuate that she's a crook. She's got all these things out against her of people that she owes money to. And Lisa's just a big fraud and her business is bullshit. Nobody even knows what she does. And she's got some Jen Shaw type fraud going on, I think is what Heather's insinuating.

37:17So, um, I don't know. So, but I do like that. She asked the question cause it leads to a really good, uh, Lisa moment. So Lisa's like, I don't know. You should, you know what? I don't know. You should. And you know what, Andy, was that kind and friendly or was that a full accusation? Was it an accusation? Andy, was it an accusation? Um, well, uh, well, it was not an accusation. It was a question. It was not a question. It was an attack. Yeah, it was an attack. It was an attack. And you know what? I do big things with big people. That's it. Like, I would even do things with Todd because he's so big.

37:54And you know what? Guess what? I'm a big fucking deal. And what do you do? What do you do, Bronwyn? What do you do? Because Todd says that you just spend his money. Like, he sat there in Palm Springs and said she's spending my money on a play. So what about that? And Bronwyn just stays quiet because that's true. like brown when coming for someone about their job is hilarious like okay thanks for the pride flag the pride flag i got in the mail but like you're not allowed to be having this conversation until you get a fucking job so um and just to circle back the reason why i had to brought up like what lisa does for work is because when they were accusing lisa of leaking the stuff to the media then lisa's like no i've got too much stuff going on okay i've got like jobs i've got stuff to do at which point then the the discussion just pivots away from that to like okay well then let's see the lie in this they're just just trying to they just always want to debunk lisa at all times and the reason why is because lisa's really easy to debunk it's you know she makes because lisa lisa's one of those like even if she's telling the truth even when she is telling the truth it sounds like she's not because she's she just gets so defensive i think she did a pretty good job at this reunion of of she did a better job than usual i think because usually she's just flying off the handle and this time i think she kind of had a handle on like at least answering people's questions kind of uh while she was fighting back so um she's like yeah that was an attack and um todd said that about you so it shuts problem one up and then andy's like well heather we saw a lot of posts on social media saying you were gaslighting lisa calling your friend one minute and then accusing her of being the source and everything the next minute and she was yes but what i was saying is that she is my friend and she is the source.

39:33She's my sister and my daughter. So Andy's like, okay, well, what do you attribute the shift in your point of view to honor? It's like, look, I'm not friends with people who are perfect. I'm not friends with people that are actually even moral representations of what I aspire to. I'm friends with people who I'm friends with, and she's my friend, and she's been my friend, and we have history. So now Heather's gets to pull out the whole like essentially i'm a ride or die that's what this card is essentially saying like despite everything she is to me i'm she still matters to me right like it's bullshit you can't attack me and she goes she's absolutely still my friend she's not a good friend but she's an important friend which what does that mean like she's not a good what does it mean to be an important friend but not a good friend like it doesn't make any sense because oh there's a terrible fucking friend she is a terrible friend and for her to sit up here and like say what friendship is like oh she's a horrible friend i came for all season i just assume i just um insinuated that her that her business is fake and that everything she does is fault and that she's a criminal um but it's because i love her andy i love her and i'm a good friend of people what are you two you're not a good friend to anybody you are not a good friend of fucking anybody up there except possibly whitney because she does everything that you say but everyone else up there you've completely fucked over whatever i'm over these false accusations and these labels.

40:52I am not the source. I am not the source. So then Andy's like, well, Angie, you've known Lisa for a long time. What do you think? So Angie is like, time for the prop. So she pulls out the scroll that Meredith gave her for her anniversary. And she's like, all right, you asked, and I have known Lisa, and I thought she was my friend. And then I found out that she was trolling me, or should I say, scrolling me. Get it? It's a pun, because I'm holding a scroll. Yeah, and it's the scroll that Meredith gave her as a gift for her anniversary. And I love that she's like pulling out the scroll to use as a weapon against Meredith's friend.

41:29Dun, dun, dun. Yeah, she was trolling me. And then she says she's not the source. But if you open that and you can pass it down and you open your phone, the person trolling me has the same phone number that Lisa has. And Lisa just blinks in that guilty way. She's like, um, um, um, oh, yeah. What you want is talk about the pictures you have on your phone, man. You want to talk about the pictures you have on your phone? And it's a cliffhanger. We'll have to see what's on that scroll. I mean, in the history of big reveals like this on reunions, it turns out like it'll have like the same area code and that's it.

42:07And Andy would be like, but this is just the same Utah area code, but it could be her. You just look. I believe that she totally caught Lisa Trollinger. like the way they caught Jax when they did like a reverse lookup or whatever on Twitter and found Jax's number of people. Yeah. I think that they're, I think that they'll probably prove that it was Lisa. That's my, that will be quite fascinating, but I'm just saying I'm so used to a lot of these cliffhanger reveals revealing absolutely nothing. So yeah, I'm also the messiest when it comes to this. I mean, you had Angie Harrington who was had all those burners and was trolling people.

42:42And her husband was the account that was coming for Jen Sean. We found all that stuff out in that season, which I'm sure Heather had nothing to do with at all. So I always think this is funny when they come at each other with burner accounts, as if they don't all have armies of burner accounts. But still, yeah, I think Lisa's guilty on that one. My guess is Lisa's guilty. But yeah, what a fun time. What a bunch of loony tunes, this show. My gosh, even the ones that make me crazy, I'm just so happy. Like Heather makes me fucking crazy at this point, but I'm so happy she's on the show because they're so ridiculous.

43:13it makes the whole season of heather worth it just to see that dress honestly well she don't i mean you know we we get mad at her for producing and i i do get mad at her for producing but i also think that she's so smart and you know she she really she does know how to keep it keep it moving you know well we can get mad at her with for producing but then not also think her for producing a good show because i know if we're sitting here saying the show is so good and then we're like mad that she's producing i think it's just you know i think ultimately when people get mad at heather for producing it's because she doesn't she doesn't always kill it like there are times where you're like what stop producing in this moment like let this be an authentic moment like in this in the in the season finale there was a really nice moment that was happening with meredith and heather kind of just took a sledgehammer to it and it just felt like why like can you like just like it doesn't have to be like this you know yeah there's one argument that's like well someone needs that person who's moving the show along and gossiping about everybody and being a bad friend to everybody just to keep the show running.

44:16I don't think that that person is needed. I don't think that that's true about Housewives. I think that person is a disruptor. And sometimes that can be fun. You know, someone takes a piece of gossip and it becomes a fight. But I don't think Housewives need to be built on constant attacks. And I think that that's actually what killed the season, you know, is just them constantly attacking the people that they don't like. It's bad weather and it's just fucking obnoxious. Like, you've hired a bunch of crazy people. Just let them be crazy. Like, we don't all need, Heather needs to have enough confidence in the cast that they can do things themselves without her trying to ruin their lives every season and then calling herself a good friend.

44:51This is the unfortunate trajectory that all these housewives shows or all reality shows seem to go on, which is that when they find success, you have the great seasons, but inevitably people become self-aware of the success and rather than just continuing to be themselves, they just try to replicate what worked in the past because they feel like they know what the audience wants and then this is where we get into situations like Real Housewives of Beverly Hills where it's just kind of Dullsville I'm not saying this show is in danger of that but I also know like Real Housewives of Potomac had that dreadful was it season eight like even the best shows can have a precipitous plummet if people go from sharing their lives to presenting what they think will be entertaining for us and closing themselves off they're still pretty raw on this show but i feel like heather is in danger of poisoning the situation i think like i think you have to be really really careful you have to follow the roni path which uh it was ultimately like they knew what their job was which was just to be themselves and say fuck it we're going to throw ourselves into it and like let's keep any self-production let's like let's just keep that to the side.

46:02We're flagging it now, which means there's still time to do something about it. Yeah. Well, it's been good so far. I'm excited to see where the rest of the season reunions go. We've got two more of them, so we'll see you for the next one, everybody. Thanks so much for being here. We'll talk to you next time. Bye. Watch What Crappens would like to thank its premium sponsors. Ain't no thing like Alison King. It's always a party on Alison Block. Our way is the Amberway. It's the Foster and the Furious, it's Amanda Foster. It's Always Automatic with Ashley Otto. Put your hands together for Carly Clapp.

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