#3169 RHOP S10E15 Part One: Kemo Sobby

0:20Well, hello and welcome to Watch What Crap It. I'm Ronnie, and that is Ben over there. Hello, Ben. Hi, how's it going? Good. What are you doing? How's your Monday going so far? Welcome back to Los Angeles. Thank you. It feels wonderful to be back here. I'm just really enjoying the warm air and the LA of it all. Feels great to be back. How's your Monday going? Good so far. Don't ruin it. Just kidding. It's going good. Had a great weekend. It was my friend Suna's birthday, so that was fun. Did that. Watched a lot of Bravo. Watched a lot of other stuff. You finally watched Heated Rivalry. How do you feel about that?

1:01I finished Heated Rivalry. Well, you know, I'm a total Scott Hunter convert. That episode number three, wow. I was like, oh, my God, I love it. I loved episode three. I thought the rest of it was pretty boring. I'm not going to lie. Everyone was like, it gets so much better in episode five and episode six. I was like, I am dying a slow death watching this. I'm not going to lie. Every time Scott Hunter was on the screen, I was like, yes, the show is amazing. And then when he'd leave, I'd be like, okay. I tried. I don't know. I mean, I thought there were some really sweet moments. And I appreciated the evolution of their relationship over the course of the show.

1:41And what was so funny is the guy who plays Ilya, I then saw him do an interview with Seth Meyers. and then like in real life he's like oh my god we had so much fun doing the show and it was like really fun and like oh my god we like we didn't even know how to skate we're like i was like this is the same guy and i was like that guy is give him an emmy he did a great job he's apparently doesn't even speak russian natively so i was very impressed i think i think for me the issue just was that you know uh poor hudson williams like bless his heart i just felt like kind of felt like he dragged the show down i'm not gonna lie i have to say it i mean i felt i just felt like i just i i know he was playing he was playing a boring you know robot person i know which i know that very well bless his heart i mean i know that uh apparently in the books his character is actually on the spectrum and is supposed to have some issues with emotional resolution or whatever but i felt like um no i didn't know that yeah i don't know i don't know if that really think they might have mentioned that that would have made that would have that would have kind of brought it home probably it was it was i i felt like you know i thought it made more sense but not in a mean way but like just the way he was acting like it seems like like if you told me that that's what he was going for i would say oh yeah i get it he did a good job you know i mean I think he did a good job.

3:13He was, I just, I thought of him as like repressed, you know, just repressed and shy, which I think he did a good job. I mean, listen, you're going to, you're going to get like a sports nerd. I mean, I don't know what the reality of that is. You know what I mean? So I don't know how real, how charismatic I expected him to be. I loved it though. I just loved it. So you just shut your God down. It was sweet. Here's something I'll say is I love that. It's like so many women into gay sex. Now it cracks me up. My niece, my niece, she is 17. She just turned 17. She's like, oh my God, Uncle, I'm so into heated rivalry in the books.

3:44I was like, oh my God. If it's like that on TV, what are the books? I mean, the books must be just pure porn. And I was like, well, enjoy the butt sex. I mean, what the hell? I wonder if the books also describe the sexual activities where it's something like Ilya moves out of the bed just so the sheet happens to cover his groin. I mean, every single thing, the amount of the way that they would move to not show any nudity was hilarious to me. But I do love. Well, I mean, I get that. And that's how I move in my house, too. Even for myself. I'm like walking. I'm like, oh, there's a mirror coming up.

4:20There's suddenly a plant in front of me. I love what the show did for us, guys, though. I think it's great. I love I love that. It's, you know, for some people, it's like normalizing us. I think that's very important. I think this is very important. and um i again i loved the scott hunter stuff i just um i don't know i i mean it was normalizing yeah exactly but like that like when you say oh my god my niece is you know you know watching gay sex it's not some freak show you know and so um you know i i did think that they were i think the show got better as it went along but i i also felt like yeah that yeah i i i struggled a little bit i i can't lie um i know this will get me a certain amount of heat i think that dumois sassed off about the show and then the show's creator was like very unhappy with her i'm not saying that i have any sort of i'm bracing for for backlash um i uh i i i accept it i accept it I hope Giselle doesn't hear about this because she is not very happy someone you don't want backlash from is Miss Giselle Jesus so let's get into some Real Housewives of Potomac season 10 episode 15 the rocky road to gay butt sex and hockey the rocky road to sisterhood it is the Colorado trip we're back with Angel Angel colossal colossal failure Colossal failure Oh my gosh This week we open and It got even worse Spoiler alert I almost felt bad for her honestly in this episode I did feel bad for her I felt on the one hand That Giselle's Fury was Justified but also felt like At a certain point you've got to Like this woman is apologizing And you can see she's mortified Like at some point you've just gotta like you know let it out and then just you you got to move on Giselle I don't know I felt I felt this is the first time I actually felt bad for Angel all the other times this season I felt like this is Angel making her own you know making her own bed but this time I think Angel made her bed and didn't realize the room had no running water and and I just I felt a little bad for her I'm not gonna lie yeah I feel bad for Angel a lot I mean the the last episode actually was when I stopped feeling as bad for her because those guys at the party and the whole way that they treated all the ladies, that really pissed me off.

7:00Like I did not like that. And I feel like she was a part of that. So I didn't like that. But I was back to feeling bad. I mean, Giselle, just kick her while she's down. Why don't you? My God, it's like enough is enough with her. It was great seeing Quad kind of let Giselle have it. And she didn't let her have it, but she was just honest with her on Watch What Happens Live. And I loved it. And I love that Miss Kwan. She's still live. But you know what? We'll talk about that on Crappy Hour tonight, which is happening at 5.30 Pacific time, 8.30 East Coast time. By the way, we also have Amazon Live today, and that's going to be at 4 o 'clock West Coast, 7 o 'clock East Coast.

7:42Come join us. I know many of you have the day off today. Happy Martin Luther King Day, by the way. Yes. And so come join us. if you're not normally able to join us, come join us today. Sorry, a little plug. A little plug, because I, sorry, I talked so much about heated rivalry. Heated rivalry. We forgot about our heated shilling for ourselves. Yeah. I feel bad now, by the way. I literally feel bad that I singled out Hudson Williams. He seems so sweet. And I singled him out for Dragon Show. Oh, he's fine. He was hanging out with Ricky Martin all weekend. I just saw it in the trades. Okay, good.

8:16Okay, I don't feel bad anymore. You know, sometimes it's like, it feels like we have to have gay solidarity sometimes. And I'm like, oh, gosh. Like, am I being self-loathing? Am I being a self-loathing gay? I did think there were some very sweet scenes. For fuck's sake, we are on to Potomac. You do not need to stop the hordes of the heated rivalry people. You're allowed to think some shit is boring. Okay? You're allowed. But it was boring. This is America. We pay taxes and we are allowed to think gay things are boring just as much as we think straight things are boring. Okay, good. Okay, good.

8:48Being gay does not absolve you of boringness. But I love all of you. Call me. He did a driver recast. Love you. If you need like a chunky, insecure person storyline, call me. Okay. So we are Colorado. Day two. Back to the truck with Angel, Kay, and Tia. They were in this truck a lot. We could have had an entire season of people just driving in the truck because everything's an hour and a half away from each other. So, you know, like just car conversations with Angel. So Angel's like, okay, you know, everybody is talking about doing a sleepover, but I needed to check with Bobby first because, you know, he's watching.

9:22I mean, yes, dads watch their kids. I watch my kids. It's not like I said he's babysitting the kids because we see a flashback of Monique being like, watching your kids. He's a father. You should. Now, if he had said I have to babysit the kids, that's something. But I think him saying, like, listen, I've been with these damn kids all day. No. I don't want to or get me some help or whatever. It would be a different thing. But she's like, you know, I'm just saying he's watching the kids. What's the big deal? You know, and commenting on it is you're crossing boundaries and you don't know me like that.

9:56And he's like, oh, yes. Well, there's someone with a decent bedroom. Let me just say, let's not do that. Oh, I love hot water. Yeah, I think it's okay to check in with your spouse, your significant other, to make sure, be like, hey, I'm going to be doing this thing. I just want to get a temperature check because you don't want them to ever feel like you're just taking them for granted. You're just going to go off and do your own thing. But Angel, the way she sort of carries herself is that it always seems like she's a little afraid of disappointing Bobby. Or she's a little afraid of it all falling apart.

10:37Whether that's true or not, hard to say, but that's the way she is at least that's the vibe she's giving out so like when monique said like oh like that's that's what a dad does a dad will take care of the kids like that's what dads do and angel's like oh she puts her hand up like don't don't push it don't push it it's like whoa okay fine i mean yeah maybe it's a little bit of an overstep for for monique to say that i think monique is also testing angel to see if angel has the same reaction that monique would have had a few years ago but I don't know. It's a little bit of a gray area for me on this front.

11:10Yeah, well also there's an argument that you're at work, so your husband will be watching your children because this is your job. It's not your job to go home at five. This is a cast trip and you're hosting the cast trip. You will be coming to the pajama party. So your husband will be watching the kids. But I think they have a good read on her saying, look, I don't know if I want to be around you people you're all mean to me and make me cry so i'll see how it goes tomorrow and then i will use my husband as an excuse because listen marriage is not easy you have to wake up next to somebody after they've been farting at you all night long you know getting up in the middle of the night to pee coming back into bed rust ruffling all the blankets you know bringing the cold air back into the bed you know you have to put up with a lot when you're married i'm guessing and um you know you should be able to use that person as a human shield that's what i'm saying so if she wants to use bobby in that way that is her god-given right and that's that's what's happening here i think that she has just given herself the opportunity to have an escape valve um i think also um like not only is this her work but they are promoting her wonderland you know business by coming up there so she's the one who's putting their brand on tv every single week on this show so if Bobby can't you know look after the kids for one night I think that's disappointing personally but I think you're right I think it's about something larger than that I think it's that she just wants to have the opportunity to get away from this group if the if yeah go well in Aspen because we saw Bobby and he was like well do you want to go like go ahead she's also so this whole like will Bobby let me is all bullshit because he's like okay but if you don't want to go, then don't go.

12:58Like, what do you want me to say? Do what you want. It's time for a commercial. It's time for a Crappens commercial.

13:08She's also a no person. She is always going to be the person where if you say, hey, do you want to go get dinner on Thursday? She'll say, I think I'm busy, but let me get back to you. She's always going to come at you with a no, and then she'll revise to a yes because she never wants to be booked. She never wants to be programmed or locked down. You know, I know people like that. It drives me nuts personally as, as someone who likes to make plans. It's also, it feels actually kind of disrespectful after a while. Just say yes to me, you know, but I think I kind of get the vibe from Angel that that's just what she does.

13:41She's never going to commit until she feels comfortable or she's like too afraid to commit like right away. Maybe because she is a slow processor. We've seen she's a slow processor by the fact that she, someone will say something to her and then like a week later she'll be mad about it but um i think that's just the way she operates she likes to give herself like some buffer space to think about it before she actually commits to something yeah um but then she loses me saying things like this if i let them in on my relationship with bobby which is sparkling and wonderful they better consider it a privilege oh shut up just be quiet wow you know consider me the less privilege i don't need to be i don't need the privilege keep it we don't all need to have the privileged in this life yeah i don't need it so now um we go to the other car with stacy and jazzy or another car and stacy's like when you have kids you have two beautiful blessings in your boys you're gonna learn that's like the easiest excuse you know you use them as an excuse or you use them as something that you resent for not having the career that you could have had if you hadn't had them it's all right as mothers jazzy's like yeah i know i'm i'm the one who sets up the babysitters in our realm okay realms a bit of a strange jazzy's like oh i totally get it i call the babysitters it's rough do you know how rough it is scheduling babysitters to take care of children i do it all the time totally get it i'm a five minute wag okay i've been so stacy's like yeah i just don't know if i believe this about bobby and jazzy's like i'm not believing it.

15:17She said she would have to talk to Bobby. No, you have to talk to yourself and feel like you are coming. And it's so funny because Jazzy, Oseel, if you feel like coming, it's funny that Jazzy's like, what the hell? Her vibe is like, what the hell with Angel right now? When Jazzy's the one who also then narked on the other conversation with Monique to Angel. So Jazzy's definitely playing both sides of the fence here and she has not been clocked for it yet. So now the other car with Giselle, Monique, Wendy, and Ashley. And Monique's like okay well look i'm just making assumptions i'm not saying her husband is a seven foot tall person that french presses her to death every night in bed but these athletes you know they make their money and then you know they're like i'm providing now you do everything else and i didn't speak on her marriage i was only speaking on her only her my concern was for angel and just because i know the weight of that pun intended it was a lot of weight it's a lot of wait and i know where that took me i'm still expanding like something that was vacuum packed i feel like a pillow that was squashed and vacuum packed and sent across the country and is still needing air to expand that is how i feel like a casper mattress that just arrived in this box and now you've taken it out and people are looking at me being like i can't believe a mattress fit in this box but it's just me expanding um i feel like a seahorse in a capsule that was put into water and is now expanding.

16:45I feel like an air mattress that someone's sleeping on, but you're watching the footage in reverse.

16:53You can only make mattress references. Sorry, everyone. I like how many mattress... I love how many mattress references you have just in your back pocket. I'm just seeing so many flashes of your life. Like, whoa! Just running the hell out of the way the second you cut that. we've all been there with the internet mattress you know it's like wow how'd they do this and you open it and suddenly it's like boom it's like pops out at you and expands all over you it is very exciting that moment um it's also very like bulky and strange and a lot has terrifying it's terrifying if you think about it it's actually one of the scariest moments of my life um but um monique is i like that monique is saying you know she's saying like basically my experience with Chris was that like everything revolved around him and you know I had to be careful like he makes all the money and then I had to sort of like cater to all his needs now I don't know why she would think that about Bobby just because they went to their house last night and Bobby didn't say hello and didn't stand up and didn't encourage his guests to stand up and didn't broker any sort of friendly relations between the guests and the women I don't know why she would ever get the sense that everything revolves around Bobby what a strange idea yeah Yeah, you know, the guys were rude, but I do have a thought on that.

18:10Just that in a way that was him showing solidarity with his wife. I think he's heard so much about these ladies being mean to his wife and just treating her like crap. And she's cried so much over it that he's like, fuck all of you. I think it was incredibly rude and a stupid move on his part because it just makes him look horrible, you know. But I think that he was like, I think that that was showing more solidarity than Chris ever showed. you know pass it yeah i think that he was like oh no like and i have to say that chris bassett never showed solidarity but i mean she's saying like i have to do everything but in my relationship i had to do everything you know the husband's like in his own world where i think in this one you're seeing the husband actively stand up for his wife and be like okay i'm not gonna be nice to you people you've been horrible to my wife like that's kind of how i took it because why else would they have acted like that i mean they were just that's i mean that's that's what i think as well but i also think that's like shitty because i think oh i do too what you have yeah i'm not saying that i'm not saying that you know like that neither of neither of us like obviously condone it and i think it's very clear that he's like trying to have some sort of like protest but i think it's like what are you doing you should be trying to set your wife up for success and this is not gonna not gonna be it what you do is you're friendly and then you talk shit afterwards instead of just stand there and and be rude and then you're gonna you know what that's gonna do is get all the people who don't like Angel just angrier.

19:37Angel, or not angrier, but like, you know, more like... Judgemental. Like you're adding fuel to their fire. You're going to fuel the shade. Instead of being nice and contrasting, you know, you show a contrast. Like, we're nice, we're kind, we're opening, and they're still doing nothing but coming over here and starting drama with my wife. Instead of giving them ammo. Like, oh, see, we said your husband was an asshole, and then here he is being an asshole. Yeah. Or it's not even that you act nice. So that way they see that you're actually nice. What you do is you just act normal to show that you're totally unbothered by them and that they mean nothing to you.

20:13I think that's what you do. But like, you don't, when, if you're thinking I'm going to show them that they mean nothing to us by literally not standing up for them, it's like, well, okay, well you're clearly bothered and you're being, you're doing the most right now by doing the least. So like, yeah, I thought that was such a, such a, like a a terrible manifestation of disliking these women like that was just so wrong um so monique's like well yeah monique's like well you know in the past i overextended myself and i did too much and then that caused me to lash out at the people that didn't deserve it the most and then as an example of someone who didn't deserve it we see 2017 of giselle being in her kitchen in monique's kitchen going, oh, here comes the talker.

20:59Giselle was so fucking rude in this episode. She was so rude when Monique came on the show. She was rude to her for no reason. It was Giselle. She's been doing this for years, you know? And so she was being rude to her in her own home. And Monique comes over and she's like, oh, I can't stop talking, right? Don't be disrespectful in my home. And Giselle says, you're aggressive. And she's like, I'm not being aggressive. And she's like, and it's not a good look. And by the way, Giselle got kicked out that day. And my only point in going over all this again is to say that maybe you lashed out at people who didn't deserve it.

21:28Giselle was not one of those people. Giselle, as I recalled, did deserve it. So please don't go back on that, editors. And then we also saw the famous umbrella scene with Robin and all that. And then, of course, we saw Monique and Candace actually at the hoedown or wherever they were. And this was the preceding the drag or whatever, drag me, drag me, whatever. Oh, drag you pregnant and all. Drag me, Monique. who dragged me so monique is like i just don't i don't i don't know what her situation is but a lot of what i'm seeing is oddly familiar you know and i said that so clearly so apparently so wendy tells me that the whole conversation got back to angel already and we see earlier today that wendy has told monique you know like yeah uh angel knows everything that we said in that car and they're like so jazzy jazzy said it and and monique is upset because she's like i would have have liked to been the one to tell this to Angel.

22:23Yeah, so now Angel in her car is like, they don't know my husband and they don't know our marriage and they haven't spent time with us. All they know is that he doesn't know how to stand up sometimes. And I'm not going to answer. And Kierna's like, yeah, I don't even think that's a conversation. She goes, well, anyways, we're going to have a great day today. It's a new day. Everything's going to be great. Let's start this with some positivity. I'm taking the ladies in a private jet to Aspen. We're going to go to Kimo Sabe. I'm giving them a taste of things that I love to do in Colorado that make me happy.

22:57Well, I hope you're ready to have trauma attached to all of these experiences because, yes, this is not going to be a good day. Yeah, it's going to be rough. Okay. Nothing good comes out of Kimo Sabe's on Bravo and nothing good seems to come out of private planes on Bravo anymore. So buckle up. commercials here comes one right now

23:26and then so we go back to the car with Giselle and Ashley Monique and Wendy and Wendy is like well I wonder what Stacey and Jazzy are talking about and so I was like nothing and then we go over to them and Stacey's like well I'm trying to convince Timo to buy me a chicken coop and Jazzy's like you want a chicken coop yes you know so I can get fresh eggs for Arabella And she's like, yeah, I hear that dogs eat the chicken coops. She's like, dogs eat chickens. The most shocking thing she's ever heard. It's like reconsidering dogs, chickens. So Giselle and Giselle's car. She's like, oh, come on, Angel.

24:06We were rooting for you. Angel told us we were going to stay at her house. Number one. She had no intentions of us staying there. She didn't have intentions of us staying at a house altogether. Okay, but you're supposed to be Miss Colorado and you, you got us. You got ins in every pocket. So what happened? And Giselle's just going off about how bad this was. And even in her 20s when she didn't have any money, she did not live like this. She was at least able to shit shower and shave. Yeah, Giselle's really on one about this. I mean, I get it. Like you have no running water. It's and you're on TV.

24:38So you can't shower. You're afraid you're not going to look your best. You feel like, you know, you can get judged. It's part by all the Bravo people. So I get it, the frustration. And you're also elder statesman of the show and yada, yada, yada. And she's already annoyed. She's annoyed that Angel is going on about the catfish thing. She's annoyed that they're separated and that some people, the cool people, get to go to the nice house. There's that too, that she didn't get picked for the nice house. Because you know that despite the fact that she's had a pretty bad relationship with Angel all season, she's still expected to be put in the nicer house if there was an option.

25:10so she's just absolutely furious about this whole situation meanwhile angel's like oh it's gonna be a great day today we're gonna turn it around today guys cut back to giselle death death to angel death to angel so we go to the airport and um they we see the falcon 900 the jet it's eight thousand dollars per hour you guys it's a big deal so the other ladies come and um they're like okay pj and everyone says hi and gets on the plane and all that good stuff and um uh ashley's like well we made it not that you guys cared don't smell me i didn't get the shower because you know we didn't have any water and jazzy's like oh god she goes well for angels just like well good morning ladies i just want to say by saying I'm sorry about your accommodations and Giselle's like too late boo boo she is heckling too late too late let me finish no no no no no no no let's not hear her out let's not hear her out let's hear me out what's the number that comes after one too late after one after seven two eight just add an L in there it'll make much more sense when he's like, no one even said, are you guys okay?

26:35No one said, is the water back? No one even fake pretended to care. And say, hey, we can send an Uber, and if you want, we can send it to you guys, and you can come take a shower at my house. I mean, that's what a host would say. That's what a host would say. They'd also say, we'll be back in two and two. Two and two. We haven't heard jack shit from you. Absolutely no way on a trip with all these ladies. I would leave them high and dry with no water to wipe our ass, to brush our teeth, to do a goddamn thing. This is fucked up. To flush a toilet, to flush a toilet. Wendy. First of all, let me apologize.

27:09This is really, really bad. Oh, my God. This is when we find out it got even worse. Oh, my gosh. Yeah, they couldn't flush and everything. And so Angel's like, well, let me apologize again. I mean, Angel is basically the, she's the store manager. She's like, this is the, I'd like to speak with the manager moment. And Angel just has to be like, well, let me be the first to apologize. We can give you store credit at the Airbnb. Here's the coupon. Can we give you a free dessert? What can we do? No, you by no means. You cannot apologize. You couldn't even text. I'm sorry. And she's like, okay, maybe I should have reached out and asked them what they were doing.

27:51But I jumped into fixing mode. Okay, like I heard things were broken and I wanted to rectify the situation. So she's like, I've been up since the crack of dawn working on a solution. And Giselle's like, so have we. So have we. Our solution? Digging holes in the backyard, pooping. And Ashley tries to jump in. She's like, you didn't call anybody? Nobody? You didn't text anybody? She's like, no, you didn't. You're too busy. And you didn't either, Kierna. You're too busy. Purassa. So now Kierna's going to get some on the side here. And Kierna's like, no, no, no. I'm on my own ass. Let's start there.

28:27I am on my own ass. I don't take photos of the landscape for my new picture frame. Kierna also not really improving. No, I'm my own ass. Let's start there. Okay. So Tia's like, well, I was just, I just thought I was just trying to process what she was saying. Leave me out of it. And just, I was like, she's not saying shit. And Tia's like, well, they were upset with me. And rightly so. I mean, I woke up, I see Angel panicking, she's crying. And that was my immediate need. And, you know, did I take for granted that I had water to shower in and also had water coming out of tears eyes that I could have showered in?

29:04Would the other ladies have nothing? Sure. But I was in the middle of an ex-Benedict on the patio watching sprinklers, sprinklers go. I just didn't have time to think about the ladies. Sorry. When I saw the tears just streaming down Angel's face, I just went into panic mode. I just wanted to help her. later I found out those weren't tears, it was just the water left over from the shower that she had taken a third of the morning, actually so, you understand why I was distracted I was worried about the ladies I said, let's all sit in the hot tub and talk about it we'll take showers and drink gallons of water we were very lucky we had a professional come to the house to show us how to shave our legs, so we all took turns doing it multiple times and Angel's like, well, okay I should have called you guys But as soon as I was made aware of the problem, I began to try and find you guys a new house.

29:58And Giselle's like, well, Angel, I'm sorry, sweetie. I'm sorry, sweetie. Speech is over. And she's like, or accommodations at the Four Seasons. And Giselle goes, don't you think I did that? I told all the girls, pack your shit. What we're not doing is standing in the projects because of Angel. This is not the projects. Yes, it is. Yes, it is. Well, the heat was at 90 degrees all throughout the house. Oh, no, sorry. Ashley's like, the heat was at 90 degrees all throughout the house. And then Wendy's like, yes, Monique woke up and her face was swollen. And Stacey goes, her face was double the size.

30:33A big, giant face. Look at her face now. Now imagine it twice the size. Now imagine it looking ugly and ridiculous. That was her. And Monique's laughing. She's like, shut up, my God. And Stacey's like, girl, you were looking crazy. I was trying to support you, but you were scaring me. You were like the monster under Arabella's bed. Well, last night, ladies, I found out that there were issues with the water pressure. And the issues were as well. And while you guys were at my house, we sent an electrician over to that house. And we also sent the property manager over to that house to make sure all was well.

31:07And I was informed that the water pressure was back up and that there weren't any issues with the well or the septic. So, okay. So she at least did something right. But Giselle's like, okay, well, even if there was no water issues, you hadn't checked on us, and our asses are here because of you, and you are a horrible host. You're a horrible host. So she thought, I mean, she sends the property manager over, and they're like, nothing's wrong. She's like, okay, nothing's wrong, and went to bed. And meanwhile, it's like turning into an oven in there, and then the water completely goes out to the point they can't even flush.

31:42I mean, this is really bad. I would love to find this Airbnb. I would love to see if there's reviews on it. Like we've never seen in any, in the history of the Real Housewives, such a bad Airbnb. We've never seen these sort of issues before. So Kierna's saying that she's like, you know, I've been on a lot of these cast trips before. Okay, I've been in bunk beds. I've had to share a bathroom and we see clips of like not amazing accommodations. And she's like, these ladies have been in the group longer than me and this is not their first rodeo. Like things happen. I get that's an issue, but we've had issues before.

32:14where she's kind of like, these people need to relax. And normally I would actually be like, she's kind of right. But with that, no running water, I think is a big deal. I think that's worthy of frustration. I also think though, at a certain point, Angel, I don't think Angel's BSing them. I don't think she's being elusive. I think she is genuinely mortified. I think this is not how she wants, you know, like her brand as the Wonderland, you know, co-owner to look like they run a trip. That's a whole other level where it's like she's supposed to be a vacation specialist and this is not great. And I kind of think that that's where Giselle is also going hard at her because she's like, this is what you do.

32:55So I think like Giselle is like ready to just take her down in any way and also take down her brand. You know, but the thing with Giselle is you're sitting on a private plane that this lady is chartered. That's the other thing. $8 ,000 an hour and you won't stop. Like, I understand, you know, the being pissed, but Angel didn't know your heat was on and couldn't turn off. She didn't know that everything broke back down. But their point of you could have called us to make sure is also valid. That's a good point. Like, you can't really stand up for Angel here. It's just that Giselle won't stop. Like, she's getting worse and worse.

33:29Like, this is fueling her to get worse, you know. And so she just keeps going. And Angel's like, well, you know, I have found you alternate accommodations. expectations and stacy's like i feel like we should go where giselle's going and when he's like i'm going where giselle goes and so she's like well where are we going and she goes you know ladies i'm a four seasons girl and i've called my four seasons people and that is where we'll be going and stacy's like oh my god the four seasons i don't have to pay for that right i don't have very much money i'm not going to deny it have you seen my outfits on the qvc do you think that maybe one of angel's things is that she doesn't like being wrong or she doesn't like being imperfect because like I can imagine a world where Angel's whole thing is that she's saying, I didn't text because I was trying to solve it.

34:19And do you think that in her mind, she's saying, I don't want to text them and check in and things are bad. I don't have a solution for them. I want to check and be like, this is what the new plan is. I'm so sorry. And like, it's sort of kind of dovetails with how she treats Bobby in a certain way of like, I don't want to disappoint him. I want to make sure I do everything right. Um, and I want to know a full, the full picture before I do something. Um, I sort of get the sense that, that maybe that's how she's operating. And that's actually to her detriment because people don't want her to be like perfect.

34:55They want her just to be present. And like, they feel like she's very guarded and they feel like she's not giving her full self. And maybe, maybe that's what's going on with this group with her. Maybe. but why would she, she's probably afraid to call them. I mean, who does she have on her side over there? Literally nobody like they, no one likes her. So I'm sure she doesn't want to call and be like, Hey, how are you doing? And then be like, this sucks. You suck. Everything sucks. I'll call the, I'll call the property manager and make sure it's okay. And then I'll try and deal with them tomorrow.

35:27You know, I think is in her mind. I don't think she knew that it turned into the hell that it turned into. And then she mentioned earlier, she's like, you know, and then I was thinking like the Four Seasons, there's an alternate place. And Giselle's like, I called the Four Seasons. You know, so I don't know if she knew that Giselle had already called the Four Seasons or if she was going to call the Four Seasons for them or if that was what she had arranged or what was going on. But yeah, I think she was just like, well, shit, I don't want to call Giselle. I'll just trust the property manager. She wanted to have all, yeah, I think she just wanted to have all her tools ready.

36:01That way when she did reach out to Giselle, she could be like, I've got this all lined up. So that way there wouldn't be an issue. But in the process of doing that, she actually made it worse, unfortunately. So they're all going to go to Four Seasons, as we all knew, because we saw that video of the cast at the Four Seasons earlier or last year.

36:20And so Angel is, she's done. She is, they've just kind of like destroyed her. You know what? but now they're going to go forward. Now they're going to move forward on this plane and go up to Aspen. Yeah, and Angel tries again, you know, because Giselle's like, this is the worst in 10 years. We have been on some bad trips but this is the Colorado your number one. And Angel's like, okay, well, it's going to be a great time in Aspen though. So once again, everybody, and Giselle goes, yeah, because of us, not because of you. Giselle's like, oh God. Oh God. and angel says well we're on this jet because of me and giselle goes well i would rather have running water than a jet she goes so like i was saying it's like well being able to wash my ass is more important than a jet honey she's like okay well listen my intention was never for you to have a poor experience i just don't want you guys to have a bad time on my watch so too late and stacy's like we already did well i hope we can have a great day ladies and karen goes can we toast and stacy goes okay what do you mean can we toast what are you saying nobody wants to toast karen is like well i'm just like trying to really champion because like i know this trip means a lot to angel and i just felt like angel was taking a lot of accountability and i just wanted to be a good time and i apologize you ladies for like not reaching out to y 'all so on behalf of the fact i am your friend and jazzy's like okay how about we chose to giselle and ashley's like there is no checking in i mean they are so mad and they're still going and but jazzy's like no toast to Giselle for getting us four seasons accommodations.

37:56Thank you, Giselle for finding us four seasons. And they all cheers. And Angel is just like, damn, damn, that was rough. I mean, the poor thing. I mean, it's been a long time since I feel like we've seen someone get really raked over the coals like that on one of these shows. Like, but that wasn't just like, oh, it was a fight. Oh, that was a, that was a trash. Yeah. Because normally when someone, when there is like a clash on the show, someone has like, like, I'm right. No, I'm right. But in that case, Angel knew she was wrong. So it wasn't like a clash. It was just a pending over and taking it.

38:31And it was bad for her. I felt bad. So now we see footage from Ashley's film. We're flying over the Rocky Mountains. And Jazzy tells us that for 11 years she was a flight attendant. So she's done some domestic, international. She's been to a lot of places. OK, she's a low key professional tripper, guys. So Giselle is saying, yeah, Stacey was sharing that she was bonding with me and Ashley. And, you know, we're in this Colorado air. We're in high elevation. So my eyes are super dry. And she says that she took her contacts out and she put them on her plate on the side. She's like, yeah, I didn't want to put them in my napkin.

39:14I mean, it was a proper napkin. I don't want to take my contacts out and put them on the table. I mean, who does that? So I put them on the side of my plate. Let's just say my poop was seeing better this morning. My poop was seeing better. She ate her contacts. She ate her contacts. Hence the 2020 booty hole. So they land in Aspen and Angel's like, welcome to Aspen, everyone. I hope the flight wasn't too bumpy for everyone. Too late. Too late. Okay, Giselle. It wasn't that bumpy, though. Too late. It was very bumpy. It's bumpier when you're not clean. We're going in sprinter vans right away. I would sprint away from this vacation To a private whiskey lounge Oh can I wash my ass with whiskey We already have some food picked out And then we'll go right ahead to Kimo Sabe More like Kimo too late Cause I'm not washed Okay Giselle that one doesn't even make sense Too late I already said it Okay Too late Too late Sabe loser Okay guys let's have an amazing day So they get off and Angel's just trying to recover.

40:22She's like, okay, well, every celebrity hits Aspen. It's just so fun. There are so many celebrities here. Rihanna, Kevin Costner, Kylie Jenner. Everyone comes to Aspen to play an angel. Too late. Too late. Too late. Well, it is funny because that one republic, I think, is from Colorado and I wonder if they go to Aspen and maybe they sing their seminal song, it's too late to apologize. It's too late. Wow, I don't know how I pulled a One Republic reference there. You did it. I don't know. Sometimes weird times, right? So they're in Aspen, and it's nice. They go to a place called Stranahan's Whiskey Lodge, and they all sit down.

41:10They're going to have some whiskey. They have everything. They have a strange bar menu. They have whiskey. They have vodka. They don't have beer. They don't have wine. They don't have tequila. And Ashi is like, what? She's like losing her mind by the strange selection. And so I was like, yeah, because everywhere they go on this trip is something they can't have, you know, I was like, okay, welcome to this fancy restaurant where you can only have what we're telling you to have. It's like, what the hell? Can I have water? It's a whiskey lodge. It's a whiskey lodge. I think it's like, okay, if a place is called a whiskey lodge, that it's going to be primarily whiskey drinks, you know, but Ashley is like, but Ashley doesn't seem too mad.

41:44Cause then she starts talking about like, well, you know, once whiskey gets holding the girls, we all go crazy. So we get flashbacks that came in islands where we see Karen drunk on whiskey, doing that thing like, I know how to, you need to know how to control your man's kiss. Do it like this. Just this thing with her tongue and everyone just is like, oh, Karen, too much, too much. For the most part, these whiskey flashbacks of like, oh, look at the ladies getting crazy on whiskey was Robin. We got a lot of Robin being, you know, because Robin really does change when she gets some whiskey. um so uh ashley's like i should have brought my flask so they're making small talk and monica's like oh so is this somewhere where you and bobby come and she's like no no we we go like the opera ski areas like we go to this hotel called little now it's pretty famous i don't know if you've ever heard of it it's a small hotel that was she was on give me a break yeah it's a it's a it's a her mother hotel was raised in the wilderness and didn't know about human civilization or didn't have any language.

42:46And this is the smaller hotel version of that one. Little Nell.

42:54It's a great, great little hotel. Hard to understand it, but, you know, give it some time and it'll make sense of it. So Stacey's like, well, are you guys skiers? She's like, no, not me and Bobby, but we're not good at that at all, you know? And she goes, well, guys, again, I just want to say, I know that you're not willing to accept my apology, but once again, I am so sorry for the accommodations. Okay, Giselle, you can say it. Three, two, one. Too late. Too late. Thank you. But I take full responsibility and I wanted it to turn out differently. And so they order a drink and stuff starts, drinks and stuff starts coming out.

43:35And Wendy's like, whoa, these are some Aspen deviled eggs. Are they different than regular eggs? And Stacey's like, there's quail eggs on top. Look at that. Talk about yolks. Talk about whites. Talk about mayonnaise. Talk about mustard. It's a deviled egg. Oh, yeah. Well, they don't taste like your aunties, deviled eggs, you know. And so Monique's like, so Jazzy, did you tell Angel the conversation that I had in the car with you all? She's like, yeah. Because why? She's like, because I was concerned. concerned and when he's like oh she was concerned about everything that happened when we said you know we want to have a sleepover and you had stated that you needed to talk to bobby about it that's what happened so and then monique says so basically i noticed certain similarities between you and i and my concern was that like i don't want you to get to a point where you explode but like sometimes when you're doing so much and even your partner is contributing sometimes it's like still not enough and then you like get in girl circles and you're hard and you're defensive and you're ready to attack and defend because of like of what you're really already experiencing the house that they may not be privy to and if you've not been vulnerable in that way i know what it took for me to get to the moment of awakening i just don't want to see you in that position so angel's like okay so you're wondering if that's also my lived experience because i'm gonna say lived experience a lot for the rest of the episode going forward is that what you're saying my lived experience i think that monique doesn't know anything about my marriage my husband pampers me to the nth degree by not getting me things and paying our rent in Potomac.

45:07And this is a depleted woman that you see here. This is a fulfilled woman who's very afraid to ask her husband if he'll babysit the kids for a night. So I think she should leave me out of it. I have abundance and happiness. This is a woman who sits on an air conditioner while people are meditating. Does that seem like a scared person to you? And Angel's like, okay, no, that was just me saying I'm going to check in with him. You know, it's like a respect thing because they're his children, right? And they're my children, but I still use the verb watch. Okay? Know what I mean? Because that is a verb.

45:41He needs to watch the children. That's a thing that people do. And Jazzy's like, well, I mean, I told you that was concerning for me too. And he is like, well, that's what I use with Rob when he's watching the kids. What are you supposed to call it?

45:57He's tolerating the children. I'm sorry, but I'm going out tonight. But could you tolerate the children? Thank you. Well, I use the word watch loosely because the last time that Rob watched the children, 65 teenagers showed up at our house and someone threw up red things on the carpet. So I don't know how well he is watching the children, but that's the word we use. The only way he got to watch the children that night was the next day over a police cam video after the police were called to my home for child drunkenness. I had one swinging off a fan. I had one vomiting on the ground. I had my son making out with the mirror.

46:37Jazzy is saying, you know, this was all concerning because the prior conversation where Monique shared her experience and she was wondering if the correlation could be also what she went through. And then Jazzy goes, as a wag myself, there are a lot of wags that have kind of lost who they are and the idea of becoming a wife. I, of course, am not one of those. I haven't lost myself in it. I just now use interesting language to describe the timelines of my husband because I'm a wag and I need to protect him. But anyway, I haven't lost myself in the wag pursuit. I've not lost myself. In fact, any man that had children on me during our relationship would totally be fine, even if he wasn't a sports star.

47:16I've not lost myself at all. Where am I? Where am I right now? And Giselle's like, so you knew you were coming to Colorado. Why couldn't you have child care taken care of? So this is not even a conversation. And she's like, I do have child care. I have our babysitter until nine o 'clock and we have her there tonight. And since we must know the babysitter schedule, I need to discuss with my husband what I'm doing instead. And Wendy's like, well, the bigger issue is Jazzy. You know, Monique said multiple times, I want to have this conversation. And you did it for her. And she's like, at the end of the day, you get nothing for nothing.

47:48And that's the life of a wag. she goes angel's my friend which is funny because she was sort of talking shit about angel earlier in the car so giselle is like yes but like when did when did you all become so close because in nevis i didn't see it and jazz he's like well angel has called me since i met her and when he goes off camera she's like yeah she goes and that is the issue like you can't call off camera so as if giselle does not call up you know the veterans and be like this is the plan now let's go after the newbie make her trip hella yeah and jazzy's like well angel wanted me in her house and she just got tia by default and she goes excuse me how dare you it's like it's true where did that come from and angel says well i wanted k tia and jazzy in my house yes i did and i wasn't able to have a third accommodation like i thought so tia's like oh well i'm sure she thought you wanted she wanted you there but if she did she would be there and i wouldn't so i don't know how that's default I think she made a choice, a choice that you lost.

48:50Sorry. I feel like they said, would you like Jazzy in your home? She wagged her head. No. Do you feel like this was code that the producers were like, no, you're going to take Tia because we need to like create drama? Like there's Tia's like, I don't know, like see what sort of rift can come out of the fact that Tia gets chosen as not with the rest of the group. But like, we don't want you to have one of the friend of's. We will keep the friend of's in the other house. Like something, I feel like she was speaking code about production when she described that, like the third accommodation, like couldn't happen.

49:23And she's like, well, I wanted a third accommodation, but Bobby unfortunately took that room for another man cave. He needed six man caves yesterday. Unfortunately, Bobby invited four men to the house who took up the rooms that you guys would have been able to have. So yeah, so Jazzy had to stay in the Broke Down Palace. Yeah. And so Jazzy's like, babe, use your brain. She goes, sorry. She goes, it was by default. It was by default. And Jazzy says that she's talked to Angel several times on the phone. And she never knew that her and Tia were that close. So when she saw her with Kay and Tia, she thought it had to be by default.

50:03Like maybe Kay advocated for Tia. So it's not what default means. No, it's not what default means at all. and he's like where did you pop out from with that narrative if angel wanted you in a home surely you would be there no on are you there no but guess who is there she is i don't know why that was so funny to me that she said that in that way hello there this is a two-part recap okay this is the end of part one so thank you so much for listening to this. Just come back a little later for part two. Watch what crappens would like to thank its premium sponsors. Ain't no thing like Alison King.

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