#3175 RHOSLC S617 Reunion 2 Part 1: Scrolls, Trolls, and Flyingmobiles

0:21Well, hello and welcome to Watch What's Crappens. I'm Ronnie. That's Ben over there. Hello, Ben. Hi, Ronnie. How's it going? Good. Hi, everybody. Welcome to Salt Lake City Day. Nice toxic episode for you guys. So welcome. Please join us on February 27th for the Golden Crappies. They will be live in Los Angeles in Hollywood. Might have heard of it. Pretty big town. And it's going to be a good time. We've started inviting all of the guests and all of that. And it's turning out to be a really, really amazing, fun musical night. So please join us for that. You can get tickets at WatchWhatCrapins.com.

1:04Also, if you want videos, hi, we're on video right now. And you can get those as well as our Traders bonus episodes and ad-free listening over at our Patreon, which is Patreon.com slash WatchWhatCrapins. Also, tomorrow, we are going to be on the Jeff Lewis Show on Sirius 6M. So join us over there. We're in the second hour at 10 a.m. with Jeff et al. And we're going to be on TV because they're shooting it for their TV show. They are tomorrow? Really? Yeah. So I'm going to start a fight with Ben about something. I'm not sure what it's going to be. Oh, man. But that means that's a put together a nice outfit.

1:41You always put together a nice outfit. I always feel like I do. I always feel like I do. And then what happens is we always take the group photo and I look cray cray. and then also they always put me in this one seat like there's always there's the ronnie seat and the ben seat but like the ben seat is the one that like the camera gets from the side and i'm always hunched over i'm always i'm literally just like striking nona over her pot whenever they get an angle of me i feel like i always look crazy always you don't and i'm not giving up my seat oh um i just wanted to show people uh while we're talking about outfits so i wasn't really paying attention today and who cares i live alone whatever um i'm dying alone just kidding um no i'm not kidding i'm just kidding about crying about it but i just passed myself because i had to go get a sweater to put on you need to look at my outfit i look like a five-year-old that you let dress themselves to go to school this is let's see okay he's wearing a green jacket with flowers which is nice and then like a bright green kind of like pga masters blazer green like or miniature golf turf green pant and then like a pink shirt i think it actually is stylish i look insane i just caught myself in the mirror what in the world rondel i'm i've just become an old lady over here and i'm you know what i'm i'm fine with it um so anyway let's get to it oh i'm wearing my installing no i'm not i'm wearing a nike training club t-shirt because i used to go to like a boot thing that I hated, but I kept on going to it because the whole thing was at the end of boot camp, they would give someone a t-shirt if they did a good job.

3:23Like, and like every week I was like, I hate this. I fucking want the t-shirt. I deserve the t-shirt. And I did it for like two years and I finally got the t-shirt because it was like the last day. So they gave like a bunch of people t-shirts. So I got the pity, like, Hey, you came, you came for a long enough time. You eventually got the t-shirt t-shirt, but I still treasure it because I put in the blood sweat the literal blood sweat and tears to get this t-shirt that one day that one it's amazing like how's that like how little of a carrot i need to have dangled in front of me to do certain things he'll do anything you want for a free t-shirt noted noted are you heading to the turret after this ronnie what is happening with this this is a new hoodie i love this hoodie I got it from like some Facebook ad or something.

4:12It's really pretty, but it's got also a nice fuzzy. I'm just very cold, you know? I'm a very, I'm cold hearted and I'm cold headed. So that's it. I feel like you need a little lantern. I mean, you're like.

4:28My butthole is bleeding and my nose fell off. Island is gloomy as fuck. I love that song on the traders. It's just so depressing. I know it really is So speaking of depressing Why don't we move in Truly To the real housewives of Salt Lake City What is happening to Salt Lake City I mean look Salt Lake City is always toxic But it's usually like fun toxic I mean this was kind of fun But it was just It's getting kind of ick I think It's getting a little too much Like they need to bring back in the fun You know I'm telling you I'm telling you I feel like I've been a little bit of a canary in the coal mine this season.

5:11I love me Salt Lake City. It's still the best one out there. But I'm like, I'm seeing some things that could be an issue. And now we're at the reunion. And it's like a little bit like people are a little unhappy. It is getting a little toxic. It's too much. They're going to have to make some changes. I think they have to make changes for next season. We don't need to reboot by any means. No, no. No, no. Just like, I just want to say, don't be complacent, Bravo. Don't be complacent. And the rumors are all that two cast members have left. The big rumor is that Whitney has been fired. Now, I'm not saying that there were any visual signs that Whitney has been demoted.

5:48But the fact that she spent most of the episode with a giant Winter Olympics box over her head was a pretty bad sign. It's not a great sign. Did you see that? That was the funniest thing. It was the funniest. because I had seen like before I watched the episode, people were already posting about it on social media. But then when I sat down and watched the episode, because I didn't watch off the screen or I watched off of, off the TV. And it's like the entire reunion, every time they cut to Whitney, there's just a box right over her face. Oh, I took a picture of it. I'll put it up on the screen while you talk.

6:22Cause it's just for anyone who's pretty funny notice it. It was truly just like the most amazing, most hilarious thing. One thing that's crazy to me is how, Facebook gets away with just posting lies. You know, there's so many lie stories on there that I don't know why anybody even reads that, including me. Like, what am I even doing on there? What am I, 90 anyway? Why am I on Facebook every day? But I am. And I read, there's all these fake stories. There's like the view, Whoopi Goldberg gets told off by a conservative. And then you read the comments, like this never happened, you know? And all the Housewives news is just false, false news.

6:57And people believe it, including sometimes me. I forget that I'm just reading complete lies. But one of them that's going around today is that Bronwyn has left the show. Some of them are that she was fired, and some of them is that she left on her own. I don't believe that Bronwyn's leaving. Do you? I just don't believe it. Not for one second. Not for one second. I don't think she's fired, for sure. 100 % not fired. Like, why would she quit? The only way she would quit would be to protect Todd. I think the theory is that they reconcile on Todd as like, it's either me or the show. I think she's choosing the show.

7:37I think it's the show for Baldwin. Yeah, she'd choose the show over Walter Matthau for sure. But I don't know. I don't believe it. I don't know that I believe the Whitney thing either. I don't believe anything, and I don't know why. People were saying someone's not coming back. One of the blinds said yesterday, someone's not coming back, and it's not who you think. So my thing is Heather. Are they going to finally get rid of Heather? I mean, she's not on the road trip. I don't know if they're going to get... I think they just did a whole show. I don't think that they don't... I think that they keep Heather.

8:07I'm going to say that right now. I would think so. That's a long shot for them to get right. I think Whitney is... Well, some people are saying there's a chance it could be Meredith. Meredith, I would expect, though, because that's been rumored all season, that she walked off and she wouldn't film and blah, blah, blah, blah. Meredith's out of here. well there's a really big conspiracy theory that this is just a conspiracy theory that I heard is that there was footage of her on the plane but like she because it was non-consensual she was like threatening to sue or something like that that's someone's conspiracy theory and like and so as a result maybe she might get demoted because it's like because it's like she's being like that whatever so since when is in flight entertainment band.

8:55I'm so sick of it. Yeah, my entertainment. I know, exactly. I mean, come on. It's either like watch Meredith have a meltdown or watch a dog movie, you know, like the art of racing in the rain once again, you know. Does everyone want to see the picture of Whitney? I've got two pictures. Yeah, I mean, we're not going to recap a show today, so you might as well show us a picture. We're 10 minutes in. Here is the group picture. here's the picture is that true and it's is that really what it was like i took this picture i took this picture come on that's my come on wait ron so you haven't seen you didn't notice this way no i watched the screener this is hilarious it looks like they put a bag over her head a bag of chips over her head it's literally look and then here is here is the close-up i mean people if you're not on craps on demand i'm so sorry i'm not this is not a ploy to get you to sign up but i do have to say this is one of the funniest images of 2020 like right now with the world going crazy with our country making preposterous demands to take over greenland with you know ice like invading minnesota and being terrible like what i need right now is Whitney with essentially a bag on her head on TV in front of a little bowl, cake dome of baklava.

10:24Baklava. I mean, it just happened. And the thing is, when they do the other side, the other side of the reunion, it sort of covers Bronwyn's head, but when it's on this side, it completely covers Whitney. And it was the whole night. It wasn't just like, oh, there was a shooting shot. a whole night every time they cut to the shot there was that is so funny can we post this yeah i'll send it to um this is hilarious i actually got i may have posted it last night but i'm gonna send it to caitlin and i'll be like hey do something yeah put that on the stories that shit's hilarious i mean that that really is like it looks like they put it back over her head it's perfectly centered on her shoulders i mean that is just gold they hate her okay so that's good so that's some good news um i met um someone who worked on salt lake city this week i went to a birthday party and I don't want to say her name because I don't want to get her in trouble.

11:13She didn't tell me anything really juicy, you know, because she knows I will come on here and tell tattletale. But a producer on the show, really, really nice and sweet and funny. And oh, my God, I was just like fangirling over her. I was like, oh, my God, you create art. You are an artist. You create art. I was like losing my mind. It's like I met Adele. I was like, sing about bread. Sing about how bread broke up with you. okay so anyway hi to her okay so let's start with this reunion it's going to be 20 hours long today you guys it's just the kind of day we're having today just use your fast forward buttons if you need to but today we are picking up where we left off Angie has just pulled out her prop her scroll this is a big one because this was given to her as a gift by Meredith and she's now using it against Meredith's tag team with Lisa so it's pretty big it's a pretty big stab it's a pretty biggest stab in the gut if you ask me yes so angie is like this is the presentation but you ask okay i have known lisa i thought she was my friend and then i found out she was trolling me because i am greek and she says she's not the source but if you open up the scroll you can pass it down and open up your phone the person trolling me has the same phone number that lisa has so she passes it down and lisa oh my god oh my god i'm so glad we're doing this i'm so glad because now I get to bring out my phone.

12:39Oh, I'm sorry. Hold on. Ben, I'll text you back in a minute. I'll text you back in a minute. Hold on. I've got Matt on the other text line. Hey, Matt, tell Ben I'll text him back in a minute. Text him back. Yeah, I'm glad we're doing this because I'm so glad. Yeah, yeah. It's time for a commercial. It's time for a Crappens commercial. By the way, we actually, there's one little less piece of housekeeping to do before we get really into this, which is that we did get a message from John Barlow. And he informed us that indeed freshwolf.com is up for sale. It is true. The rumors are true. But then he said, aha, but our website is freshwolf.co.

13:24And it is alive and well. So a correction from John Barlow himself. Yeah, but also a lesson, a lesson to us all not to buy a.co. because honestly yes why what who even came up with that and what was my response to john i said that's great john you should buy freshwolf.com because it's up for sale right now i know dot co it actually like i feel like dot co is a trap is a trap domain right because everyone is just gonna assume they see the co they just assume they assume the m is there and so they just it's You know who else assumes it? You know, the search bar or whatever, the address bar. It's like, do you want.com?

14:07Yes, I do, because that's sensical. Okay, it makes sense. So Lisa is like already, she knew this was coming, I guess. So she pulls out her phone. Andy's looking over the scroll. Okay, this is a private account saying I liked Angie up until I saw her flip-flop. And Lisa's like, that's not me. That's not me. I don't even say things like flip-flop. It's not me. I know that's 100 % not me. Okay. And he's like, well, yeah. Well, what I'm looking at is an account that someone, that is Lisa's phone number, that it's not my phone number. How dare you? That it's not. My phone number is.co. Yeah. My phone number is 713-555.co.

14:53And Andy's like, yeah, but like this is posting comments that are negative about you, Angie. And you're saying this is attached to Lisa's number. Okay. So Lisa, is this your number? Well, it depends. I think that's Ben Affleck's number. And I only know that because we're very good friends. Sorry, not sorry. She's like, that's not how you even look it up. That's not even how you look it up on Twitter. You're so stupid. And Whitney's like, tell him why, tell him why we figured this out because the winter Olympics are coming Friday, February 26th to Peacock NBC.

15:31So, he's like, no, no, no, that's not me. You're lying. You're lying. I'm not done. You're lying. It's a joke, Andy. It's a joke. It's a joke, Andy. It's your phone number. It's your phone number. It's a prop flop. Prop flop. Hey, that was a prop flop. Prop flop.

15:56And she's like, it's okay. You did it. So, and he's like, okay. Okay. Bezos. He who holds the scroll gets the talk. Okay. First question to the scroll. Are those new boobs? This scroll has boobs. How cool. So what you're saying this proves is this link was sent to this number, which is Lisa's number. And we see this iPhone alert that says, you know, And we're sending in a recovery. I guess it was like the recovery thing, right? Which has been used. This is how Jax was caught with his fake account on Vanderpump Rules. They say, I lost the password to this account. And then they say, okay, we're going to send this phone number or email or whatever.

16:41But don't you enter in the phone number that you want the retrieval from, right? like I don't think if you lose you can't like if you forgot the password I don't think it says okay we're texting it to this number does it? Should we try it? Yeah we should try it. Yeah try something random. Find like some horrible well I guess it doesn't have to be horrible we could just find anybody we want just to find the president. No. Not doing that. Ben's going to be swatted. I want Ben to be swatted in the middle of the street. No. How about Sonia Morgan? Okay. Yeah. Look up Sonia Morgan. Okay. How do I do this?

17:25Wait, do I have to sign out to do this? Yeah. Just go use a different browser that you're not signed into. I'll just do, I'll do a private window. I'm your private window. And I always enter on Twitter, even though, by the way, even though it always goes to X, I always enter on Twitter as protests. Okay. Sign in. Okay. Okay, enter in phone, email, or username. Okay, is it Sonia? I didn't even look. Sonia Morgan's username is. It's Sonia T. Morgan. Sonia T. Morgan. Forgot password. Okay. Forgot password. Okay, find your X account. Okay, enter in your email, phone number, or username associated with the account to change your password.

18:09So, Sonia T. Morgan. Is this illegal what we're doing? We're not trying to actually get this. No, it's not illegal. Confirm your email. Oh, they probably. Oh, see, this is where this is where it's. So what does it say? Well, it's saying confirm your email. Verify your identity by entering the email address associated with your X account. OK. I don't know. Sonya's email account. Yeah, because then wouldn't it just email the account? I don't know that we're going to prove anything here today. But Lisa is basically saying what you're saying. Yeah, it's terrible. But Lisa is saying, you know, what you're saying, basically.

18:44No, you enter the phone number. Right. She's like yelling that. And they're all yelling at each other. And Angie's like, I've watched this account for two years and I was defending Lisa everywhere and shitting on everybody. And then she was mad at me. And I started to see it say things about me, trying to put a narrative about me. And then it was Electra's birthday and it was before I had a ton of followers so I could see who watched my stories. So Candace watches my stories. And then two minutes later, Lisa's like, happy birthday to Electra. And Lisa never looked at my posts, but Candace looked at my posts.

19:19So, Candace Story. So, the smoking guns are really smoking right now. And so, Andy is like, okay, Lisa, would you like to explain yourself? Do you know Candace Story? Are you Candace Story? And why could you not have come up with a better name for Candace Story? Because we already have reality volunteers. Come on, try a little bit. Okay, Andy. It's like, it's not me because that's not even my phone number. attached to the account like they put my phone number in and then they just said reset password or whatever and like that's like not how it works though yeah and um and he's like no that's not what we did yes because my phone number is not attached to that that's not even my account that's stupid he's like but you changed uh and angie says you changed it after i told you about it and she's like no i did not you are crazy she's like no i'm not i am greek you're fucking crazy you're non-greek crazy and she's like no you're crazy and so they're just yelling at each other and andy's trying to shut them up but they're just yelling back and forth and forth you're crazy no you're crazy no you're crazy no you're crazy i'm greek i am greek domas domas tzatziki tzatziki phone number's been affleck baklava it's a sisterhood of baklava i'm not lying by the way and so heather's like then why why is your phone number attached i just want to say i'm so sorry i'm going back to trying to hack into Sonia Morgan's account because it occurred to me, if we enter in Sonia T.

20:46Morgan username, and then if we say confirm your email, what happens if I enter in watchwhatcrappens at gmail.com, which is our public email, if I enter that, will it say we have no email associated with that or will it say, okay, if that is the email, you'll get one. So I'm pressing next. It says incorrect. please try again oh ronnie you see but was it on twitter or instagram or twitter this was twitter so this was the story the point of the story is that like if you try to look if you try to log it try to do the confirmation email and the email is incorrect it says no try again okay but what but isn't this instagram that they're talking about because they're talking about stories.

21:40Do I have to go to Instagram? I want to do this. Okay. Should I hack into who? Okay. Who are we going to go? Who on Instagram? Let's keep with Sonia. Let's keep with Sonia. Okay. Instagram.com. Okay. We're doing this. Okay. Phone number or username. Okay. Is she Sonia T. Morgan? Doesn't matter. Honestly, it doesn't matter. You can enter in gobbledygook. Okay. Forgot password. Forgot password. Okay. Oh yeah. It was Instagram. Okay. I'm going to say Sonia T. Morgan. But here's the thing. It says send login link. So it just automatically sends a link to that account name. So it doesn't have the phone number.

22:22It doesn't do the thing where like, well, it says enter in your email, phone, or username, and we'll send you a link to get back to your account. So basically Instagram, what it does to protect Sonia is you say, this is my username, and then Instagram sends that person's registered email or phone number of can't log in link. That's what happens. So it works on Twitter, it does not work on Instagram. So it's looking like it's vindicating Lisa, basically. Is that what you're saying? On Instagram, I think it's a vindication. On Twitter, maybe not. I'm actually surprised. I thought Lisa was going to be 100 % guilty of this.

23:01I mean, it sounds real. we need to know how they actually did this you know i'm we're just trying to put the piece we're like forensic um uh criminologists who are trying to put together this case i know that's not an official term but we're on we're like doing csi social media hacking division and uh it would be great if they just told us what they did and then we could yeah it would be it would be great but they didn't but you know i mean this does sound like what lisa is saying that you put you're the when you put your phone number in there and then it sends you the whatever so i guess for now in this in this little science fair project she's vindicated but even if she's not and she is guilty like what did what were these horrible tweets because the first one we saw the only one we really see evidence of is that she calls angie a flip-flopper so i don't think that that's that bad but i guess it's that you're putting on a wig and pretending to be somebody else right you're like friends you're in the same friend circle like you shouldn't be doing this especially after the monica situation so if she is creating like a finsta to just sort of you know shit on angie like that's really not cool at all okay um so angie's like well we accepted it and moved on and she's like no it's not me i'm not lying i'm not lying and heather's like why is your phone number attached then she's like it's not it's not you're dumb and so brahman was like um well you're acting like you're above it but you're not about it lisa you're not okay okay yeah well You can sit on this couch and say to me, to my face, all six of them, that you are not Candace Story.

24:36I don't think so. I'm not Candace Story, okay? That's not me. I'm not Candace Story. They knew intimate details only you knew about me, about Angie, about Meredith. What are the intimate details? What are the intimate details then? Post them. Because you guys are saying a lot without proof. The only proof we've seen so far is flip-flopper. So show me these intimate details then. I want to see them. And Lisa's like no No you're making it up I mean listen you're not going to get another Receipts, proof, timeline, screenshots You're not going to get that Because it's not here So whatever Okay well I'd like to move Can we move on a little bit I'm going to move forward guys It's not me I showed you the stuff I showed it to you it's not me Moving forward Move on to it not being me then Because I'm going to show you it's not me I'm going to show you with proof And then you're going to owe me an apology You're going to owe me an apology We're going to go forward Let's go forward until you've tried to prove things Stupid You're done You owe us an apology Because we've stayed your friend And we've all moved on from it And we've known about it for years So you owe us an apology Lisa Barlow Lisa you just said that was your phone number You guys treat me like shed You treat me like shed It's exhausting.

25:58I'm so sick of that. Stop. I would not accuse you if I didn't know in my soul. In my soul. Oh, man. I could be home on Grindr right now. Oh, man. I love how they're going. I know it in my soul. In my soul, Lisa. So Andy is just now, he's just like staring at the baklava on the table. Like, what am I doing here? How many more reunions do I have to host? What is my retirement plan? Why can't it be New Year's every single night? I just want to get wasted. And you're just staring off into space and you hear the music. It's just like, what the world needs now. Now. And so everybody's just yelling. They do not stop.

26:46They, Heather and Lisa and just yelling over each other. And finally Andy gets up and walks off the stage and Mary's like, no, Andy, I'm wearing elbow length gloves. Please, Andy. This is not. This is actually not. It's not. It's not. Andy, please come back. Oh, come back, Andy. I don't want to see you. And he's like, okay, guys, but come on, guys. So he comes back and he's like very upset. And Heather just laughs and she's like, we're sorry, Daddy, Andy. And they're like, it's not funny, Heather. I'm mad at Heather for laughing. Yeah. So Andy's like, okay, moving forward. Heather, you said I watch what happens live.

27:27You said that you have the receipts proof screenshots of Lisa leaking information. Was that what Angie revealed? Well, that was absolutely part of it. The other part was the, you know, the con win fraud port of it all. You know, it sees the wordplay there. Okay. You know what? Do you want to talk about what you said on Red Rocks and the pictures you have on your phone? Yeah. Talk about the Red Rocks. Okay. She's like, what? you mean rolling thunder fuck you want to go there you want to talk about rolling thunder fuck what are these people talking about i have first every time i hear receipts proof timeline it's just like it's like a megan trainer song coming on the radio i just throw things at it and tell it to leave me alone and i just start screaming to heaven i never asked for this why is this every day of my life why is the song still playing why get her out of my ears that's what happens every time i hear receipts proof time so congrats you've made it to megan trainer level with me okay first of all second of all the conwin fraud port of it all you guys never even got the nickname right when you were accusing her of that in the first place it was not the nickname you accused her of using was not the nickname that she used on the social media and third they've been calling Bronwyn Conwyn for like ever since she's been on this show.

28:46I read Reddit. Yeah. So, um, okay. So who now, now that I've got that off my chest, who is rolling thunder fuck. And once you come out and you say something and say, when you come out with something and say red rocks and rolling thunder fuck, you need to explain yourself. You can't just leave that on the table and expect me to be able to sleep at night. Yeah. These, this all just sounds like bars in like, like, Arizona Rolling Thunder We're going to Rolling Thunderfucks tonight Lisa and you can't come you're not our real friend It's like Lake Havasu I feel like you guys we're gonna go to Lake Havasu then afterwards we're gonna Rolling Thunderfucks Okay it's so good It's so good it's karaoke night I just feel like I see Katie and Lala going there So Heather's like everyone on the couch knows Who Rolling Thunderfuck is Meredith can explain it You can ask Lisa, too.

29:42And Meredith's like, well, they're alluding to a photograph of me with someone that I dated when Seth and I were separated. His name was Roland Thunderonimo Fakakala. And they call him Roland Thunderfox, which I find to be very disrespectful. For someone to disrespect the Fakakala name is beyond disgusting. The family invented delivery focaccia Where it's not delivery, it's focaccia That was the original slogan until it was stolen By the DiGiorno's It's a Jewish focaccia that doesn't use yeast Called focaccia And I do not appreciate that You coming after my culture I feel like my focaccia has been singled out So So, focaccia, focaccia.

30:37There. Look at that. There. Look at that. Finally, okay. I invented this focaccia when I was feeling a bit focaccia during our separation. And I made it with Roland Thunderopolis Focacolo. Whatever his name was, I said. It was too many syllables for me to remember, to be honest. But I'm hoping that we settle on a final saying of his name and we can go forward from there. Thank you. okay but my question is why is that even such a big bomb to drop the red rocks i mean why is that a big bomb and lisa's like because why do you still have the photos on your fucking phone though if you're her friend huh that was three years ago um okay so heather had gathered these pictures on her phone to out meredith for cheating on the show and was trying to get everybody to basically what i'm cobbling together here and so andy's like so what's the big deal i mean meredith just said she and Seth were dating people when they were split up.

31:36It's the dumbest thing. I mean, keep going. It's a bad luck for everybody but me and Mr. Focaccia who makes delicious products. It's a deal that didn't work out and that's okay. So Andy is like, alright, let's pick it up after the break. Okay, all this focaccia talk is making me hungry. I'm going. Bye, everyone. Commercials. Here comes one right now.

32:04so now it's lunch break and so Heather and Whitney are eating together and Heather's like right out of the gate Meredith just sat there on the couch says not a word in Lisa's defense like just sit there and hopefully you'll eventually get it Meredith says nothing in Lisa's defense because that's their dynamic Meredith doesn't have to Lisa says a lot and I think Meredith would defend Lisa when she wants to but even if she doesn't that's between them that's for Lisa to get upset about But this is classic Heather. Now she wants to turn Lisa against Meredith because Heather is mad at Meredith. But too bad because you've annoyed Lisa this season.

32:42So she's not going to do what you want. And also, do you not remember the entire first hour of the reunion that you were screaming? Tag team. You're tag teaming. You do. All you do is stand up for each other. You tag team each other. Now, two seconds later, Heather's like, oh, my God, they're horrible people. Meredith won't even stand up for Lisa. Make up your mind, Heather. Like true. Oh, my God. That's so annoying. that's so annoying i can't take it anymore heather is just too much she's too much and i get that she's you know i get what she's doing like she's she thinks she's just making drama for the show but it's like it's she is trying too hard like at least follow your own rules you make stupid rules everybody else has to follow to be a good friend or do whatever in your book and you don't even follow your own damn rules i actually really do worry that heather is the one who may be really hurting this season.

33:31I've actually kind of like refrained from really leaning into that. I feel like, you know, I, you know, I have, I have, you know, we've talked about how it seems like Heather is self-producing a lot and that's something that the audience feels, but like really looking at this cast, I don't think the audience at large has too much of an issue with Meredith or Lisa. People, sometimes people hate Lisa because like, she's like villain, but I don't think anyone's like, oh, this season's bad because of Lisa. By the way, it's not a bad season. I'm They're not saying that about Bronwyn or whatever. I do think that like what's coming across is Heather.

34:05It seems like she makes these pivots that it feels like what is, whether this is true or not intention over impact, what's coming over to us is a sense that Heather, Heather is making these, these pivots to have big moments on the show. Like she's trying to have big Salt Lake city moments and it's not coming across as authentic. And the audience is picking up on that. and therefore we're getting pushback on things like the whole thing that we're about to get into with this airplane so when we watched that episode where they went to vaulters and they spent like 40 minutes the episode having a confrontation i loved that episode i thought that was amazing i thought it was amazing that we had this this sort of up and down kind of very funny confrontation about the airplane thing and i was shocked that when i went on to social media later that night A lot of people were like, oh, enough about the airplane.

34:59I'm sick of the airplane. I don't want to hear about the airplane. I think that people would not have had that reaction if they had not felt like on some level they were being manipulated by Heather Gay. I think if they felt like it was an organic interrogation, which it may very well have been, but the fact that it felt a bit like it was a manipulation for the sake of the TV show, people pick up on that and they don't like it and they don't want to be subjected to it too long. So I think it's a real problem that they have to start dealing with. Yeah, because if you look at all of it, it's pretty much Heather controlling the whole season, which is what they get mad at people for doing.

35:36You know, it's like the Lisa Vanderpump and the blah, blah, blah, blah. It's constant, like, just forcing stuff to happen instead of letting stuff just happen. I mean, you've got Lisa, Meredith, Whitney. You've got all these crazy people on this cast. It can just happen by itself. You don't have to force it, you know? And it's just, it makes me fucking crazy about her. So then we go to Angie Bromwin and Mary talking in a dressing room. And Angie's like, Lisa's being strange today. I mean, wow, she's being mean, which, I mean, that part doesn't surprise me. But it's more than just that. I mean, she's, and Bromwin's like, well, I think she's trying to stay calm, which is absolutely disgusting.

36:11And she keeps saying words, speaking over her. And, you know, when she's notorious for speaking over people. So it's like she got over herself a little. She got herself a little like, this is how I'm going to handle myself today. And I'm going to just be calm. And I'm going to stick to it no matter what. and we have to destroy it. I'm like, okay, so now you're mad that she's too calm. Like, you people, I can't. So then we go to Meredith and Lisa, and Lisa's like, how do you think today's going so far? And Meredith's like, well, I think you're doing great, and I think you're holding your own. I think your screaming has been wonderful.

36:41Next segment, why don't you blink a lot? I think blinking is really effective. What was your favorite part? What was your favorite part of me? Do you want an autograph? You know what? We should get screenshots from your favorite part, and you could post it on your social. You should do that. Thank you so much for watching me on the reunion. I appreciate your support, Meredith. I can't point to anything specific that you've done really well. I think your elbow looks great today. So that was a big win. Thank you so much. Thank you so much. Blake said the same thing. Okay, but here's the thing. Now we're going to have to talk about the plane ride.

37:17And I think we just have to be prepared to back each other because we both know the truth And you can't argue with the facts And the facts are They don't serve peanuts on the airplane Because Heather gets a pussy now And she can't be around peanuts Let's just hammer on that Hammer on that The facts And we'll get ducks in a row Yeah At this point I actually Well okay So Crazy Rich Asians Is about crazy rich Asians And a girl wants to marry a boy And in the end They get into some planes And they fly into enemy territory They play dominoes And one of them gets shot down. And then they get rescued by the other one.

37:55And then they get out of there. And everyone's green. And Goose's son is happy again. Crazy rich Asians. Okay, let's do this. And then E.T. goes back in a bicycle. Okay, we've got it. We've got it. And when they leave Asia, the dinosaurs are left there by themselves. And they will do no more harm to anyone. Crazy rich Asians. And by the time Richard Gere marries her, she's not a hooker anymore. Okay, we've got it. Send it to print. Yeah, send it to print. But I do have to say, it would be very important for me to share to the women that I was very emotional watching the movie. Right. Because at the moment of the wedding when she took the ring and threw it in the volcano and destroyed it once and for all, and the world was saved, I got a little swept up in emotion.

38:46No, wait, wait, wait. You went too far. That's Real Housewives of Potomac. That's Real Housewives of Potomac. Come back. Come back to the five and dime, Meredith Dean. Meredith Dean. Okay, so we come back to the set, and Meredith is just staring at something. And Mary's like, what? What are you looking at? She's like, is that cheese real? That's the way that she's staring at it. You're not really going to beat the bento allegations this way. She's just like, I don't know if the cheese is real. She has intense feta suspicion I don't know about that That doesn't look like authentic feta cheese I don't think I can't tell if it's real or plastic Lisa says according to these notes It's probably sprayed I thought she said it's probably suede And I went into a whole tailspin Of like is there now like suede fake food?

39:43Maybe there is Yeah suede feta don't get water on it It's really fashionable Welcome back. Welcome back to the Real Housewives of Salt Lake City reunion. I'm exhausted. I'm Andy Cohen, and I have children. Okay, let's talk about Mary's Faith Temple Pentecostal Church, sponsored by TLC. Mary, let's look at great clips of Mary being adorable and not ripping off poor people this season. Here we go! So clips of Mary giving, like, at our church, Mary with her son, Mary giving everyone sage advice, et cetera. All right, Mary, I loved hearing you preach. Did anyone ever get injured by that exposed nail in your pew?

40:29I've been curious all season. Well, Andy, anyone who did is no longer in the church and is now buried someplace. We're not talking about that right now, Andy. But so she talks about her son and she says the reason why he got put in jail is he went over to his wife or now ex-wife's house and she had filed a restraining order against him. And he still went back anyway. And like he basically got thrown in jail because of that. He was saying that he was going back because he felt that he was saving the girl from the parents. And Mary is like delusional. That's crazy. I don't even know why I thought that.

41:09This has been going on for a long time. There was stories that the son was, I don't think arrested, but there was like a warrant out for Mary or something. Remember last year or a couple of years ago because this girl was underage and ran away from home apparently and moved into Mary's house. And so the parents were trying to get the kid back. And it was crazy. And I guess that's why Robert married her so that she could legally not be. I mean, I don't know. I'm just putting things together. I don't know the truth. But putting all this together, it's just nuts. This whole story about Robert is crazy.

41:45So he went over. It's kind of stalking. I mean, they had a restraining order. He kept going anyway. He got thrown in jail. Then we find out they tased him. And she's crying, which, you know, it's always sad to see someone crying over stuff like this. But the story is also nuts. And she's crying. And then she's like, but I'm happy. You know, I'm in a good place. I'm like, I don't think you are, but I wouldn't blame you if you're not. Because this is sad and crazy. So she goes through this whole thing. And he's like, so are you talking to him? She goes, oh, yeah, I talk to him every day. And he's like, do you go visit him?

42:22She goes, no, I'm not going to the jail. Gross. But I won't even go to a Circle K. You think I'm going to go to a jail? No. But basically she's like, I don't want to see my child in that way. I think it's too much for her to see him behind the glass, like incarcerated. But they have conversations that he speaks to her every day. And, you know, she's preaching to him and trying to get him through it and stuff. And she's really hoping that he will be scared straight. And Robert Sr. hasn't visited yet, but like he talked to him on the phone. And basically Robert Jr. asked for some books and everything.

42:57So, and then, and then, um, uh, Barry's like, well, Heather, maybe I'll send him your book. He said he just wants to read, read, read. He also said he needs a better toilet. So you have a stack of your books. Okay. You can carve a hole. Maybe it's better toilet paper, Heather. Uh, yeah. How many free books? And she goes, I'll send him my book. I'll send it to him. That's easy. I mean, there's a chapter in it about you. He'll love it. Just ask him to put it on his jail socials. That would be great. That would be great. Uh, nobody wants your book and nobody wants it in jail. Okay. so mary's like wow okay and so andy says did you read heather's book and she's like uh no no did any but is it is it real is that a thing that really happened they gave heather a book like yes mary she had a book and there's a chapter about you and she goes oh she's like that's nice yeah i was i was sorry to hear about by the way your mom's passing do you have any regrets and she's like no um but they've been uh you know estranged for 20 years So she's like, whatever.

43:57And then Andy's like, by the way, there's a documentary series coming out that says it's examining your church. And we have a write in. The Mrs. Mandelker says, why does that guy with the talking head have such a bad shirt? They keep showing him over and over again the documentary. Mary, can you comment on that? Can you comment on this woman's disapproval of her son's shirt in the documentary? Well, let me tell you, nothing in that was true except that statement from the mom. Just kidding. I didn't think your shirt was bad. I liked your shirt in that. You tell Mrs. Mandelker this is not the time.

44:34This is the time for parades, okay? This is a Ben parade. So she's like, oh, when he says, yeah, and I know that your sister is participating. And the trailer alleges that your kink is money and that your congregation sees you as a god. Anything you want to say to that? And she turns to Whitney and she goes, you're the one who said that. And we see a flashback to 2021 when Whitney's like, Meredith, Mary's congregation believes her to be god. And so Mary's like, and it hurt me. It definitely hurt me. But, you know, I've been through a lot. So just add it to the pile of things that hurt me, Andy.

45:12Just add it to the pile. well i'm sorry about how they did not play the clip mary gets away with so fucking much with this new improved personality and i love the new improved personality i i even like the old personality i think she's been funny the whole time she's been on this show i root for mary but to just they're kind of white washing this whole thing or like watering it down i guess it's a better turn because they could have showed the clip of mary yelling at the congregation being like, and I didn't get anything from, I didn't get enough for my birthday. What are you, a bunch of poor people?

45:46I don't want to be around a bunch of poor people yelling at her congregation. I mean, just videos like that are damning enough. They could have at least played some stuff like that. She's getting off too easy, I think. So Andy is like, well, it's ironic because fans of the show on Phantom, you're like, leave her alone. We don't want this. I mean, that had to be gratifying for you. And Mary's like, yeah, felt good. thankful for that but uh they'll see the truth okay lisa and whitney any comments about the cult rumor resurfacing about mary's church do you want to revive this right now because we had to pretend like we were past it but now let's get back into it and whitney's like no no i stand for on the side of i'm glad to see people standing up for mary and supporting her i feel bad that they're doing this work i'm sorry whitney i can't hear you from behind that logo can you move your head, just a little bit to the left, sort of a little muffled sounding behind there.

46:39I'm sorry, can you hear me now? Winter Olympics! Coming soon! Peacock! Lisa's like, well, here's my opinion. Told you so. And you know what? It's old news. I wish it weren't coming out now, because I've already said it. It's like, why are you copying my storylines? That's what I have to say to TLC. Stop copying me. Stop it. So Andy's basically like, why has this stuck? Why has this this messaging stuck and mary's like well i think it's because you know the policies and the rules and the different things that our church does and they're not used to pentecostal churches in utah and they're not used to black churches in utah and i just think they just like they have just no idea they're just confused they're not used to seeing preachers scream at people for more expensive purses on their birthday i mean fucking stupid country get over it and addy's like well coffee is love on twitter said mary was right about meredith not sticking up for lisa on the Okay, so we're done with all the church stuff.

47:34Yeah, that was crazy. I mean, she got off easy on that one. So good for her, I guess. Mary was right about Meredith not sticking up for Lisa on the yacht trip. Meredith, what's your version of sticking up for your friend? And she's like, well, listen, I mean, I'm her friend, so I never read the suit. I just heard from her about it. So I couldn't really compare what they were saying about the suit because I didn't know anything about the suit. Yeah, Meredith and I are great friends And I just don't think like I mean, now you are Now you are Wait, what did you say? I said, now you're good friends No, we were always good friends And we had a fallout for like a minute Oh really?

48:17Like when you called her a whore And you said that she slept with half of New York Okay, do you want to go through the list Of like everything everybody's called Meredith Or are you just going to like fix it on mine? Because I'm like a motherfucking sick of hearing the same goddamn thing on repeat. Okay, I'm done. I'm done. Do not say goddamn to me. Do not say goddamn to me. I normally don't, especially when I'm like near Ben and Blake. I would never say things like that. But like, I'm like so frustrated. I'm so frustrated. Wait, sorry. Frustrated. However the fuck you say that word. It's not a hard word to say.

48:51This is not like, we're not asking you to say like, you know, pneumonococcus or something like, we're not asking you to say focaccia. It's frustrating. It's frustrating. Well, I mean, it was pretty significant. I mean, it took you two years to be able to come back together. I'm here to Cyclone was also four years ago, and we've moved on. So why isn't everybody else moving on? Well, because I have to say, as a viewer with children, it permeates my thoughts that when I watch the two of you, that the two of you were able to get to the other side about it. and I'm trying to give a nice spin to be like, isn't that great?

49:32But what I'm really saying is, what the hell is wrong with you that you could forgive such a thing? The funny part is, is that everybody is sitting here repeatedly calling me a grudge holder, but no one can understand why I'm not holding a grudge. Now, how does that make any sense, Andy? That's what's really hypocritical. And Mary's like, well, it's just hard to understand. Yeah, well, I moved on from things, too. Yeah, I moved on. Like, one time, they opened up a new Wendy's. So I started going to that one. And I was like, sorry, old Wendy's. I have to move on from the one on Route 16. And now I'm at the one on Route 17.

50:13So I move on. It's not that hard. I'm a mover on her, Andy, and that's just the truth. All right, then why was I criticized that I was a grudge holder when I was upset? Well, I think that it's great that you've moved on. But I marvel at it. Okay. But, Andy, aren't you the one constantly saying, guys, we need to leave here with a resolution. We can't just leave here fighting. And so now it's four years later. Why do we have to fight about the she's a whore in New York thing again? Like, why? And so Mary is like, well, I mean, it is great, I guess. And Lisa's like, well, Lisa, why are you obsessed when, wait, Lisa, were you surprised when Mary took your side?

50:52And she's like, and Mary says, Lisa doesn't care. Lisa's all about Lisa and that's it. She probably doesn't even know what you're talking about right now. It just cuts to Lisa blinking. She's like, uh, uh. Angie starts laughing. She's like, she doesn't even look like she does. She does no idea. And Lisa's like, no, I know. I'm marveling at what you're saying right now because Andy just said the word Marvel. So I'm saying Marvel. And I don't want to denigrate the word Marvel, but it is a bit of a denigration. So I'm just like marveling right now. Like, can I marvel? Like, it's just like a big Marvel moment.

51:26Like, I feel like I'm part of like the Marvel Cinematic Universe because like I'm marveling so much right now. Well, Andy asked you a question. Can you answer the question? And she's like, um, yeah, well, answer it. She's like, I don't need you to tell me what to do and how to do it, Mary. Okay, well, then I need you to answer the question. I mean, that's why we're Mary. First of all, what is Mary so upset with Lisa about? Did they have a fight that I didn't hear this season? Why is she coming to this reunion pounding so hard on Lisa? You know, Mary, it just, the smallest thing, you know, you never know what's going to get, like, what the bee is going to be that's going to get under her bonnet.

52:02So she's just like, she's just not feeling Lisa right now today. So Lisa's like, I'm being thoughtful and pragmatic about what I'm saying. And you should be happy because I'm thoughtful and pragmatic about what I'm saying. And like, I'm like kind of marveling at my own thoughtfulness and pragmatism. It's just like a lot to marvel at. Well, I'm not happy about anything when it comes to you, Lisa. She's like, oh, you know what? This is so out of the left field. It's so frustrating. Like, this is wild. It's wild, Mary. It's wild, Mary. And Andy says, well, did you even know that Mary took your side?

52:35First of all, Mary wasn't necessarily taking her side as much as she was coming for Meredith. Lisa was just kind of a prop in that. But Lisa's like, yes, you know what? I do know that Mary took my side. And I was so grateful. And I explained that to Mary. And you know what? Mary and I have had like numerous conversations over five years where I've apologized. Okay. And she doesn't move forward. She's the one who keeps taking us back. It's just, no, you don't move forward. I mean, you're the one who sat there with Whitney and said my church was a cult. Mary, you're not moving forward. That was four years ago, five years ago.

53:08It's like, did you forget that? That you went after me and had Cameron on the show? Did you forget that Cameron repurposed his house, mortgaged his house or whatever for your church? like and didn't you there's a lot in that documentary that I just wish somebody was there to bring up because I feel crazy bringing it up but like Cameron the guy that you allegedly had an affair with you're like you fucked your grandpa for that church why are we acting like this is all normal I can't if you're going to bring it all up again then everybody needs to talk about it well she's like you're the worst person when it comes to forgiving and you remember everything and you dwell on it and you get mad and then you tell it to the press and you tell it to people and you're at BravoCon and you're talking about Bronwyn You're talking about negative.

53:50You live in the negative train, okay? There's a train with a dining car, and it's called the negative train, and they have no food. And I'm just trying to help you out. And she's like, I don't need your help. I don't need your help. And how is it trying to help her out coming for her all the reunion? I don't get this logic. She's like, well, you do need some help. She's like, well, not yours. Well, you need someone's help because you're dark. You're very dark, Lisa. You married your grandfather to steal a church from your mother, okay? Who are you calling dark? Hey, everyone. This is the end of part one of this recap.

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