#3181 RHOBH S15E06 Part Two: Comparative Literature 101

0:22Hi everyone, welcome back. This is part 2 of a two-part recap. if you're wondering where part one was well go check in the feed and be sure to subscribe so that way you always get your episodes but enough of that let's get right back into the episode so she's like thank you wow look at that well this is bulgari this is chanel this one is so tacky i love how tacky jennifer tilly is i what like it's amazing how i find it gross with amanda but i find it uh hilarious with jennifer i don't care she's like that's what well you'll never guess who made this chanel it's a one of a kind i guess the thing is it feels like with jennifer it feels like she puts some effort into researching this stuff learning about it sourcing it getting it owning it like it has it has like the pedigree of like someone who is a collector and an enthusiast as opposed to someone like amanda who's like i saw something that was expensive and I bought it and I put it on and I'm wearing it and I'm telling you about it, right?

1:24Like there's a sense with Jennifer of like pride and joy. This artistry. Curated this. There really is. There really is. And in a way that also is what makes Rachel Zoe when she does go shopping. It is more fun to watch than like someone else going shopping because for her, it really is kind of like, this is her get down and this is her quote unquote art, right? So I think that's how Jennifer pulls it off. fashion as opposed to some lady from Oklahoma with a fanny pack walking in and just buying something that says LV all over it. That's what it is. Las Vegas? That's where I'm having my egg houses.

2:02Did you use the agency? I'll put six eggs on the double zero. Wish me luck. Does that count as eight eggs then? Double zero? Get it. Yeah, it's a real life bet. So Sutton's like, well, after spending some time with Amanda, I have some reservations because Amanda's coming in. She's like, hi, how are you, everybody? She's kind of doing Kyle's like, hi, how are you? Kind of thing to everybody. And Sutton does not like this girl. She's like, I have some reservations. Really? Because you didn't have reservations when you were planning that trip. Airport, restaurant, forcer. And I think she is much more calculated than I thought.

2:42I squint, I squint, I squint, I squint. but also says the woman who's like actively always trying to become kyle richard's bestie and she's complaining about someone being uh calculated and that's like kyle's the queen of that okay so then of course now here we have arrived at the let's see what everyone is wearing section so like like look at my kelly bag look at my kelly bag look at my mini kelly bag and um you know it's so funny ronnie i don't i'm sure you were looking for this too but um we guested on Amy O'Dell's podcast Back Row, which will be coming out soon. And Amy O'Dell is a fashion writer.

3:20And we talked about fashion on The Real Housewives. And one thing that Amy informed us of, which of course we didn't know, because as we've mentioned before, we're not fashion gays, is that you're not supposed to have your nice Hermes bags unclasped and unbuckled. So now I noticed. and these bags were all flopping all over the place all of every single one of them it's it is funny because she's like why are their bags always open and i was like i don't i mean i never really thought about it but yeah i noticed the same thing in this scene like every bag is just falling open flopped open and i was like now i can't not see it and so funny to me big floppy open hermes bags and dorit bought an 11 000 mini kelly and she's like i bought it for me birthday Because I just signed a Libra deal.

4:11That's book in French or Spanish. Who knows? Who knows, really? Probably both. Dorit, you have$5 to your name, and you spent the first money from your advance on an$11 ,000 purse? Girl, you got to start worrying about them kids. Come on now. I know. I know. By the way, of course, I got paranoid that I was misstating something, So I Googled, are Hermes bags supposed to be open? And the first thing that comes up is something on Reddit, which is a shot of Bethany Frankel, of all people, holding a bag. And someone says, I just need to know other people's opinions here as I will never be able to own an Hermes bag.

4:57So I have no idea. But is the clasp open like a look? Are they difficult to lock shut? Because I see so many celebs posing with them open. It drives me nuts. and apparently they are very difficult to open and close and that's yeah that's what amy was telling us on the show that they're notoriously difficult to open and that that's why people did it remember because i was like well why that pisses me off about expensive things it's like oh wow here's your fifteen thousand dollar bag good luck closing it like you're fifteen thousand dollars it should be like electronic it should be hooked to my brain where i say close my purse and and it closes.

5:32Like, why are things more terrible when they're more expensive and more of a pain in the ass? You know, I just don't get that. I would like to try to open one and close it and then I will be the final judge on how hard it is because I mean, I can see it being stubborn, but I would also like to, I would like to source an Hermes bag and be like, I'm going to open this, please. Thank you. Yeah, go get yourself an 11 grand bag. I'm just going to touch it and see how it goes. but you know what it makes me think of it makes me think of something that I actually think of all the time almost every single day which is the shot from a few years ago when Dorit filled a teapot from the snout from the spout not the snout from the spout instead of the top remember when she did that?

6:22and I was like why are you doing that? from the spout instead of the top what do you mean? like she was putting the water into the little tiny hole instead of the big hole yeah she had the front oh do you remember that okay and here that's funny here's why here's why i think that's because there are times when i am refilling my my uh my tea kettle and i you know the the spout is open and sometimes you think I could just angle this whole thing. So I just refill it right like that, like Dorit does. But I'm like, that's so lazy. The least I can do is close that spout and open the top part and fill it up from there.

7:07Like that's, it's, that's all I have to do. And so when I think of the Hermes bags with like Dorit and Bethany, just leaving them dangling open, I was like, you can't do the simplest thing just to close them up. Well, apparently it's not simple because Because there's entire articles written about it and now multiple podcasts talking about it. So it just speaks to a pattern of behavior with Dorit. First, the tea kettle, then the Hermes bags. But I like that Dorit has seeped into your personal life like that over the years, too. Like, it's been a thing that's been going on for years. And I love that for Dorit because she's talking about how impactful her book is.

7:42Like, you didn't even need to write a book. You've affected Ben's life to this point just from filling a tea kettle. I mean, I can't believe you don't remember the tea kettle moment. There's actually a thread.

7:57I just did a search for Dorit tea kettle to show you a picture. And there is a thread on Reddit. There's a picture of Dorit filling the tea kettle from the spout. And the headline is, was Dorit ever likable? Like, this is such an obnoxious way to fill a tea kettle. but the truth is that a lot of people when she did that a lot of people admitted that that's how they fill their tea kettles as well and then it became like a thing like how do you fill your tea kettle let's vote we're putting up a poll um yeah i really i took this to a weird place interesting interesting stuff so sentence like uh she's proud of dorit i guess or she's pretending to be because she's like new setting because she's had a therapy session with reba so she's He's like, well, you know, I think when you get divorced, it's important to have ownership in your life that's not connected to a man.

8:48That's really amazing. And it's important. It's important. So congratulations to Dorate. It's important to have ownership of something that's not connected to a man but is about a man instead, unburdened on shelves in April. So then everyone's going, book, deal, book, deal, book, deal, book, deal. you know it's so nice to get support from these ladies like finalmente that means at last in some language i'm not sure um so file me nails as soon as possible they're getting really really long i think probably who cares so they come back to the party and natalie is uh the first one to sit with the tarot card reader and um the tarot card reader is like wow um someone needs a blanket oh my god how did you know i'm a psychic babe i'm psychic someone get her a blanket okay oh my god look at this card there's a man on it and natalie's like who is this is this boyfriend is do i need a boyfriend he looks like an artist oh my god well it's so funny because he looks like he's from brooklyn i mean come on this is crazy you're reading my mind i'm like natalie you're giving her all the answers like let's ixnay on the ooze clay okay yeah um and also i like that they're looking at the actual card they're like oh my god in this card he looks like an artist it's like it's the drawing on the card so um they laugh and then uh erica is asking to read she's like so did you choose a co-author again how about that who's gonna write the book and she's like i did it's a mother daughter do what mother daughter i don't know what he's saying it's a mother and a daughter all right yeah so amanda's like oh like a ghostwriter she's well a co-author ghostwriter sure whatever whichever term you'd like and she goes um yeah well i just sat down and wrote yeah i just like sat down and wrote my book so well it's more for time you know all the things i do let me list them you see how long it's taking and amanda's like well i just like wrote my book so i mean who doesn't just write their book yeah you know what i mean like you know what i did i like sat down and i wrote that's crazy someone said you want to write a book i was like sure so i wrote the book like she just keeps going and going she goes so yeah dorita's like well you know i have a ghostwriter it's more for time and amanda goes well i just wrote my book oh well you must have had a lot of time i was like okay the season has come to life at long last that was such a great line when she said you must have had a lot of time oh i love that prickly dorit moment and so erica's like i'm happy for you that you wrote a book all by yourself i did not i use brian moyland and dorit definitely will not because she's an idiot let's face it she can barely count to three without getting distracted but uh if dorit wrote it herself it would never come out let's let's be honest okay so for someone who claims to be an author she sure doesn't know how to read the room it's time for a commercial it's time for a crappin's commercial guys guys guys um is that food over there i think i need something to eat guys let's uh i want to talk about hats over there come on uh it's two times let's let's like let's chill out everyone yeah everyone let's get food okay so amanda's like okay well tell me about this co-author thing kyle because like it didn't even occur to me to not just sit down and write a book.

12:28I mean, my God. She's like, I think it depends on the writing style. Yeah, because I mean, I guess I'm a writer then because like a big part of my job is like writing before I wrote the book. Oh my God, Amanda, congratulations. But if only people who could actually write, wrote biographies, there would be nothing in that section. It would be like five books. Writing is, you know, something that people work at to get good at. And people like Dorit are not that. So if you ever want to know their story, you're either going to have to go to Instagram, you know, to look at all their pictures or you're going to have to have them tell that story to somebody who can form a sentence.

13:06But also her marveling at the idea of a ghostwriter is, first of all, it's a lie. She knows what a ghostwriter is, but it's obviously she's trying to flex. But like you're 30 something, whatever, you know what a ghostwriter is. You know what it's there for. You have a book. You've heard of it. You were probably offered one when you wrote your book. Like, let's not be an idiot here. okay also your books are extended bullshit pamphlets on manifestation which is just like copied from 90 million other pop psychology bullshit books that have come out before you it's not like you're writing grapes of wrath let's calm down over there i've seen your website font okay albert so she's basically like yeah it never even occurred to me to like just like not sit down and write my book i mean i guess i'm a writer like a big part of my job was just like writing before I wrote the book.

13:52Like I was a writer and that's why it never occurred to me. They're just like, fuck this girl. So Erica, Rachel and Dorit are now huddled in a corner talking about Amanda. And Erica's like, oh, I wrote my book. I wrote my book. Like, okay, well, you had a lot of time on your hands. Remember when I said that before? I'm saying it again now because it was such a good diss. Diss, diss, you've been dissed by Dorit. But like, why are we one upping our mediocrity achievements? You know, it's like, wow. Like I wrote a book that no one's going to read. No, I actually wrote a book that no one's going to read.

14:24Like who cares? Like who reads? Yeah, I'm like a New York Times bestselling author. Yeah, and I'm like a two-time New York Times bestselling author. Like why are we one-upping? Why is she one-upping so many people? Okay, how many times are you a bestselling author, Kyle? I don't tell anyone. I just told you guys after you said you wrote one time. I said I was a two-time bestselling author. I'm like whatever. I hate those words. So they're all high-fiving Rachel. and she's like um like amanda like are you okay like what like isn't there something in your brain that like blocks you from saying something like that like you don't need to put someone else down to lift yourself up well you on bravo yes you do actually that that is true um so now sudden joins i mean literally like almost the entire cast is standing in a tiny pack in the corner gossiping about amanda which is so funny and rachel is like oh my god isn't this the oh my god look look like Look at this caviar.

15:19Look at this caviar. Isn't this the best way to eat caviar? It's Roe caviar. It's Roe caviar. Yeah, we put Roe over here and then we put Wade over there and then we just spend the dinner watching them fight. Did you know that this caviar is like a bestselling author? Didn't even have to brag about it. It's crazy. When I opened this caviar, I told it, congratulations, I'm a two-time bestselling author, but good job. I die. I die. You know, like, as in, like, I don't like what she said about the book, okay? As the new girl in town, like, that's fucking bold. But, like, tell me what she said about you.

15:52Tell me. Tell me. So I goes, okay, well, Amanda thinks, Dorit, that you're talking too much about the divorce. And that it might come back to bite you. She said that. She said it. She said it. She has a lot of time on her hands. And Dorit's son's like, mm-hmm. And then she said she's worried about you talking too much about PK being a, oh, God, I hate this word. Alcoholic. There, I said it. Okay, I said it. And so we see a flashback of Amanda being like, yeah, like, oh, no, Amanda, when she was with Doreen, saying, oh, yeah, I'm praying for you, Doreen, after everything you told me. I hope you get good sleep, you know, and I hope you have good vibes.

16:30And her being like, oh, thank you, Amanda, dearie. Oh, that is kind. That is kind of you. I had lunch with Amanda several weeks back. No fish sandwich, I'd like to add. And she never expressed any single word about any of those concerns. So it's pretty odd that now she has a different opinion when my back is turned. Very odd indeed. And so then we come back to the party and she's like, for the record, I didn't out PK. He did that by being a flagrant, insane, over the top, poster boy, poster child for alcoholism. Full blown. I didn't out him. I would never, ever, ever discuss it without his approval.

17:10I specifically said, PK, I'm going to call you a full blown. the e-week on television. He loved it. He loved the idea. Absolutely loved it. PK, if you don't want me to call you a full-blown alcoholic, you have the next three seconds to respond to this email. Three, two, one. I will take that as a yes. That's okay. See? I approved. I got approval. So, Kathy finally comes. Yeah. Kathy finally comes and Jennifer is sitting down for her reading and they pull a card for her. And she's like oh my god This card has not come out the entire time It's one of my favorites Is it Chanel?

17:52No It's a picture It's called the Empress See look it's an Empress Isn't that nice She's pregnant And she's sitting cross-legged in the grass And Jennifer's like oh well maybe she had one too many pizzas Not pregnant with possibility of course I'm not pregnant I can tell you that much I am hungry though Is there pizza here? This lady has told me I'm about to eat one Well, look at this Oh my god, here's another one And it's a lady on this card who's blonde What do you think about that, Jennifer? This one looks like my friend Satin She's wearing pink and holding a cake Just like Satin oh does she have one where she's holding the head of uh the decapitated head of an assistant who didn't bring her the proper round ice cubes and is now shit talking her in gay bars

18:54so jennifer says that like sutton is her very good friend of 18 years and the psychic is like do you feel like you know is she is she someone you feel like you can lean on a little bit and jennifer's like she sort of does this prayer hands like yes it's so true and then meanwhile Don't you think that the psychic, I was getting the vibe that the psychic was like, oh, here's a blonde lady. She's like, oh, yeah, Saturn. Whoa, and Saturn's like, she's wonderful. She's been my friend of 18 years. I felt like this lady was like, this blonde lady's about to come for you. Jennifer was just like, no, we're friends.

19:29Everything's great with Saturn. So Saturn, meanwhile, has interesting things to talk about. She's like, guys, did you see when we were on the plane? And Bo's is peanuts went everywhere. And Kathy's like, what? Peanuts. Oh, peanuts. I thought you said penis. Where's Bo's anyway? And Amanda's like, oh, her egg retrieval was Wednesday. It's funny because it's just like she when I got my egg retrieval, it was on a Tuesday. So it's just like one day earlier in the week. I don't know. It's a little bit better. Better day in the week. Satin, I had my cards done and the cards came up. It looked like you.

20:06and she was wearing a pink dress and holding a cake. And I said, this is Sutton. And then the card said, shut up. The card was kind of mean to me, but, you know, I take it because the card was going through a very hard time and I support the card. So where's the cake? Do you have a cake? Please have a cake. Why don't you have a cake, Sutton? So Sutton's basically like, can we talk? So they go over to talk. She goes, okay, so I have to talk to you about this because my feelings are super hurt. I talked to Kyle and Kyle told me that you said I'm always the one stirring up trouble. And that's why Garcelle doesn't want to be friends with me.

20:43And we, by the way, we see a flashback to this in about a second where Jennifer does not say any of those words. She doesn't say that at all. What are you talking about? Kyle didn't even say that. I mean, Kyle, Kyle was an asshole for running straight to you to tell to tell on Jennifer. But Kyle told it at least somewhat truly. Sutton's just making stuff up. She's like, well, Sutton, I didn't say that. Well, that's why Garcelle didn't want to be friends with me, really. No, I didn't say that. And so we see Jennifer saying she doesn't like to be snapped at for no reason. And all of her friends give Sutton a pass because she's so fragile.

21:19But it's just too much. And that's one of the reasons Garcelle left, because it's always all about Sutton. So Jennifer's like, well, I felt like I needed to leave the room because I felt like, why am I here if I can't speak? and i was venting a little bit and i don't remember exactly what i said but um i maybe it was similar to what i was feeling and if i had it all to do over i would say where's the cake you were holding the cake in the card and basically jennifer says that like after garcelle left she started to re-examine her own relationship with sutton and um you know she sort of had this feeling of like, you know, like I would never speak to Sutton in the way that Sutton spoke to me.

22:06And so it was like really unfair that she spoke to me in that way, which is a very fair feeling to have. So Sutton's like, well, it just took me back to the past. It took me from Brown to Strack. And because I've just been really hard, I'm trying so hard not to be so reactive. I just, I don't want us to mess up. Okay. Yeah. Um, listen, Sutton, I, I really appreciate that you're trying really hard not to be so reactive, but like, that's why you're on this show. Please be reactive. That's what I need from you, Sutton. I need you to be reactive at all times because that's my pleasure zone. Well, and also Sutton, you were reactive in that moment.

22:43You were rude. You were shitty. You snapped at everybody, but you snapped at your best friend and upset her. And she's being honest with you and telling you that now, and you're still not apologizing. You're forgiving her. Like, what the fuck? Come on, man. You are in the wrong. Apologize to your friend. And, you know, and sure, Jennifer wasn't wrong about talking about it. But Jennifer is apologizing. And Sutton's just like, okay, you're forgiven. Let's just let that go now. I'm like, oh, no, no, no, no. Sutton should be nicer to Jennifer. Yeah, Sutton needs to get her shit together because that's not cool.

23:15So Sutton's saying, I have started to do work on myself. But in Sedona, I snapped at Jennifer. And I should not have done that. And I need to take a minute to breathe. Or as my mama would tell me, count to five. Yeah, that's right. That's what you pay thousands of dollars for, for therapy. Count to five. So poor Jennifer, she's choked up. Like she clearly is, you know, she's uncomfortable with confrontation, clearly. And they love each other. They hug. And Jennifer's like, I'm really sorry. And I'm going to do better. But because I want to be a ride or die. She's like, well, we are that. Mainly, you know, we're best friends.

23:55So come on, come on. So they go. I like that Jennifer called it. I want us to be a ride and die. That's what we're going to be. We're going to ride together and we're going to die together. She's like, we are. Come on, baby movie star. Come on. You're not going to get an apology from me. But come on. I like to see tears. That was fun. So we go back to Dorit's reading. And Dorit's like, oh, for someone who needs a ghostwriter, I'm sure getting a reading, Amanda. And so she's like, don't be afraid. Tell me everything. Anything. even if it's bad or what have you. Pinky, full-blown, is there a card for Pringles?

24:36So the psychic gathers her tarot cards and a card just flops out by accident and it's like, I don't know, you did tarot, right? I don't know, was that the death card or the swords card or whatever it was? It was like the seven of swords or something like sticking out of a brain. And this was like the only drawing we've seen that's not like some chick lit, like beach reed cover. and it's just like an open brain with like seven knives stabbing down into it. She's like, oh, oh my good. What does that mean? All the swords sticking out of the head? I believe this is the noise roughly that was coming out of her eyeballs in that moment.

25:12Come ladies. Welcome.

25:18I'm now officially getting the impression that this lady doesn't know what the fuck she's doing because every time she picks a card, She's like, um, this is a blonde lady. So there's a blonde lady. There's a blonde lady. Oh, look, there's a man on the cart. I see a man coming into your life. She's really bad. And this one, there's swords sticking out of the head. And she goes, um, well, it's, I guess, an ending, like a heart ending. Yeah, there's knives sticking in the brain, lady. But also like a lot of like, that's still pretty generic. I have to say later in the evening when we have the Valley Persian style, there's a psychic on there who does some very good work.

25:55Like she's giving specific details about choreography from childhood. And this lady is like, meals you've eaten within the past seven days. Haven't you? I did. How did you know that? So you digest food.

26:14So now it's time for dinner. Everybody gathers around the table and Rachel's like, Oh my God, speech time. Wow. Hot girl summer. Am I right? It better be started. Like, thank God I keep like 600 candles on hand because like otherwise. Death. Okay. Enjoy your food. Like I'll enjoy watching you eat it. By the way, I'm missing bows right now, but she did call me and give me permission to share the news, which is. She was upgraded to presidential suite. Yeah. Great news in Vegas. Great news. She spent a lot. She's got like eggs happening and she also got three of the Audrey 2 Monster on the Little Shop of Horrors machine and won like$100.

26:54So it was pretty cool. They're like, ooh, yay, yay for Boz. She has a yard long right now with margarita. She's having a great time. So she got, we do have an update, which is that Boz was able to get two eggs and they'll be tested for growth. Commercials, here comes one right now. so now the women are like talking and serving themselves and everything and they're learning about um natalie's talking to amanda and natalie's like so where are you from amanda's like i'm from oklahoma but i moved to montecito in 2017 because i'm the money queen and i basically like wrote so many books up there because i'm like really talented so yeah you're welcome for knowing me yeah so um amanda's like don't forget i need a reading and she's like yeah i had a feeling you might say that she's like what are you psychic psychic so amanda's like yeah i've been to psychics i've been to energy healers i've been to intuitive guide um like yeah i've stolen everything from them i'm amanda francis i'm like woo woo shit everybody knows that everybody knows i'm amanda francis so uh oh god angie pulls a card that's like next to it's a woman near a money tree and amanda's like motherfucking money tree like talk to me about this money queen you know about the money queen that's me that's me so angie's like you are a manifester times 100 do people say that to you a lot she's like um i write books i write books on manifesting for a living like i wrote a book called rich as fuck that's so hilarious and so angie's like oh my god this is amazing i'm so psychic and she goes so are you a medium as well and she goes um i mean sometimes but I can't really control it but if you tell me exactly what you want me to say I could do that so do you feel anything on me?

28:47she goes no I can't she goes that's okay my child died so then she tells her that this is the anniversary of her child's death and she was hoping this was a moment that the child would come through and she's like uh okay can we just go back to the cards the poor lady is like uh and she's like she's like hey wait a minute you stole that from my mother i was impressed that angie the psychic did not try to like bullshit her way through being a medium she was like uh yeah you know what i'm on camera i'm just gonna say no i'm not feeling anything but this was actually quite sad because well of course the day is inherently sad for amanda and the and everything about it is sad but it is sad when she you know she considering that she's really into all the woo shit she's talked about how eddie is constantly having these moments where where he feels zion and she never feels it never never feels zion and she's like really trying to have these moments to feel zion and she can't get there and i was like that's so sad that's like really really really like heartbreaking so then back at the dinner table um kyle's like so did you talk to jennifer a sentence?

30:02What happened? Did you talk? Fucking Kyle. My God, give it a rest. Jesus. She didn't remember saying it. Kyle's, oh, so you think I made it up? She's like, no, not necessarily, but we can talk about it in front of y 'all. I was kind of gutted, and my breath was taken away. Jennifer's like, well, we're making a mountain out of a molehill, actually. Which I don't, you know. She's visibly uncomfortable. Are you calling me a mole? Are you saying I'm a mole? Am I a little rodents that what you're trying to say she's like well i just i remember things but like i don't remember what they were but like because i'm always very protective of you in our friendship it wasn't me being like oh what a bitch right you know and so kathy's like what's going on down there is it about bo's penis nothing's going on carl was asking us about a thing and then it got quiet and then people started coming up am i making things worse i don't even know And Erica's like, no, you're not making things worse.

31:00Oh, God, somebody did something in this goddamn party where all the dicks were supposed to paint. Jesus Christ. And Rico, speaking of context about things flowing out of moods, because I think you're going to be fine, Jennifer, whatever. So now. I'm putting a button on your fight. Your fight is done now. That was nice. I want to get your take, Amanda On the discussion Of my divorce Because I heard you had concerns About the way I've been speaking About the father of my children So Well Kyle and I spoke a little bit About how it could make your situation harder With the custody, so that's basically it Kyle's like, yeah, when did you hear this By the way, when did you hear this Can we get mad at someone else and of course she's like I heard it from Sutton so Sutton's like what?

31:54Huh? What? Huh? And Amanda's like um what day was this by the way? Well do you think it because it doesn't matter what day it was if it came out of your mouth would it be different on a Tuesday than it would be on a full blown day kohoolik day?

32:15Amanda's like can I be really really honest? Zion died three days three years ago and i'm just hanging on by a thread and everyone's like and then kathy goes is that your dog she goes my son and then it cuts the commercial and i was like oh my

32:34is that your dog oh my god oh my god so we come back and she's like no that's canaan's twin and everybody's like oh my god holy shit and um rachel's like oh my god i had no idea and something's like oh my god no what how did nobody know and so everybody looks distraught i mean like completely mortified you know and they don't know what to say and so there's a big long pause and dorit just goes wow i'm sorry you know that it landed on a day like this maybe we'll have the conversation again right now but i'm just curious because having an opinion as someone who doesn't know me in my situation or me husband and actually said to me that you thought about me and you prayed for me and she goes um yeah but that was all true i have been thinking about you because you're going through a hard time and i think that day i mean dorit just doesn't give it up i was cringing my bottle i was like i was like oh my god she's like so she's like i think i agreed with kyle i don't remember having very many strong feelings about it other than agreeing with you kyle which was great i love that she actually did this because you know kyle kyle was happy to have amanda you know take all the heat and so it's like us she's like um um i don't really recall like i I don't really recall.

34:05And so we see a flashback of one week earlier and Kyle and Amanda are talking about the divorce. And Kyle's like, she's clearly very upset. Cuckoo cuckoo. Am I right? I mean, PK says, like, he's actually been an angel. And Dorit is like, crazy. And Amanda is like, yeah, but bringing it all to her friends over and over, is that very wise? And Kyle's like, it worries me. So we see that, like, Kyle was just as guilty as Amanda in this situation. Kyle was more guilty because she was the one bringing it up. Amanda was just commenting on what Kyle was saying. Right. Right. As far as I can. So anyway, Dorit's like, oh, do you think you hijacked Kyle's thoughts?

34:39Who has known me for 10 years and made it your own thoughts? Is that maybe what you did? And Kyle's just like, oh, it's just like looking away doing that kind of like awkward. Amanda's like, um, so do you think it's fair to bring this to me when I just shared what I'm going through today? Like, this is a hard day. My kid died. And she goes, well, listen, you can see that. I'm like, oh, no, Dorit, no. you're doing it again yeah yeah i mean like it's once this once this card has been played you it's kind of like you know this is like saying we're postponing the game there's thunderstorms this baseball game has been postponed until tuesday you know like listen and from the other side you can you know from the other side of course there is the argument like bringing up your child's death in like a petty argument on housewives to like as a blocker is maybe not that tasteful okay and then saying like my kid died okay you know everyone deals with things in their own way but the fact is even if you think it's a card and someone shouldn't be playing that card and it's not fair etc etc it is still a card you don't fuck with that is the card that's that that's one of you just don't do it like what's wrong with you a hundred percent a hundred percent um so i mean i have to i'm i will when amanda said it i 100 believe this is something that is consuming her i also felt a little cringy because the cynic in me felt like she was trying to kind of say stop in this conversation right um but like you said whether what for whatever reason that it came up it is like it is a hard stop at that point yeah um i'm gonna drive this scar through the wall.

36:26She is really just like, listen, you can say that just, yeah, you're not very kind. Says Amanda, I'm not trying to be anything other than conversational. And if you're not ready to have this conversation, it's fine. I respect your wishes 100%. And she's like, um, yeah, I was saying it could make a custody hearing more complicated. Oh, so we can have the conversation because I'm happy to. I'm like, oh, no. Oh, my God. Just stop, please. She's like, I just want to go home. Okay. so then we should have the conversation another time. How about in about 30 seconds? Okay, I'll count down. And then are you ready then?

37:02That's what I'm hearing. And Amanda's like, no, no. So Amanda gets up. Now Amanda's like crying. She's totally distraught. And she's like, thank you, Rachel. You're a wonderful hostess. Rachel's like, I'm sorry. I'm sorry I didn't know. And Amanda's like, I just want to go home and hold Eddie and like talk about what today is. So she goes out and Kyle, of course, follows her. And Reed's like, well, that's great timing. She didn't say anything at all. so amanda like i'm not the bad one you're the bad one for not warning me that you were going to be pulling that card on me today oh my gosh so awkward so she to read says that amanda shared at jennifer tilly's party that she had lost a baby but they didn't know it was today and if she had known she wouldn't have said anything to her yeah but she did say and you just kept going you dummy yeah i don't believe that for a second you 100 would have so um amanda's at the like at the front door about to leave and kyle's like oh i hate seeing you leave like this before you get into a fight with sutton oh my god and amanda's like i just should be with my family right now then kathy joins she's like hi honey everyone feels really really really bad and amanda's like only one person should feel bad street so kyle they're all like consoling her so kathy's like wait a second we're gonna fix this so she goes back and she's like i'm gonna get to read hold Hold on.

38:15Three, get over here. So Amanda's saying she came at me accusatory with a very attacking style of energy. And the second I explained what was going on, that should have ended it, which I mean, good point. So at the dinner table, Erica's like, oh, God, I mean, I knew about the kid, but geez, I didn't know it was today. So they're feeling bad. And then Kathy is like, listen, she's like, I think you should go in there and talk to her. She's like, listen to me, Kathy. I respect this, the anniversary of her son's death, and I don't need to have any conversation with her. She goes, just go and be the bigger person.

38:48We're not forgiving anything. Just go ahead and do it. I mean, we're talking about a death of a child and possibly a dog. I wasn't really sure. I didn't hear the whole thing. I wasn't following. I really zoned out after I asked that question. I just kept thinking about my own dogs. God, I love those. I love my dogs. So Dorit walks out To see Amanda And she hugs her And she's like And she tries to wipe away a tear And Dorit's like Amanda I'm so sorry you're going through this Right as I was trying to ask you a very important question And I didn't know Obviously you didn't say anything And as a mother I can't think of anything worse in my life Just so you know But again just a reminder You didn't say anything Don't touch me right now please Just please don't touch me right now Okay, well, it was a nice gesture.

39:37I think a lot of people would have been very complimented to be touched by a future best-selling author. But if you want to be unburdened on bookshelves in April by my finger, then that's fine. But, like I told you, my kid died, and you kept going, like, really strong. So. Well, which I said I respect. And you continued the conversation. Yeah, because I was trying to get what you were saying, though. Okay, but I don't want to have the conversation right now. I want to respect the fact that you don't want to have the conversation. I would like to have a conversation about how you don't want to have a conversation, but you don't want to have a conversation about how I want to have a conversation about how you don't want to have a conversation.

40:13Do you understand? Yeah, but like you very, I don't think it's true because you wanted to go at it out there after I told you what I was going through and you did keep going. So like if someone told me their kid died, I definitely would have just like given them a hug. So. And she's like, well, okay, well, I apologize that I didn't, but I just came out here right now to give you a hug. So why don't you go and good night, Amanda? Yeah. And so they're like, okay, bye. And she leaves and Rachel just looks around. She's like, oh my God, fuck. Wow. And at the end. Wow. It was definitely, it was so cringeworthy, but I also love that.

40:51Like I love a cringeworthy moment on one of these shows and made me happy. Made me excited. By the way, you know that moment I also really enjoyed that I feel like we totally missed? there was one moment where Sutton was eating caviar and she got on herself and she's like, no, I've got caviar all over me and I don't have a cocktail party. Rachel, you don't even have cocktail napkins. I loved her mini meltdown about the cocktail napkin to Rachel Zoe. That was great. But I do. I do. I do. Where are the cocktail napkins? Where's me? Where's me? Get me. Trash party is this in the first place. Anyway, I just wanted to put that out there because I loved that moment.

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