#3185 Married To Medicine S12E08: The Miramar Has Two Faces

0:20Hello and welcome to Watch What Crap Inns, a podcast about all the crap on Bravo that we just love to talk about. I'm Ben Mandelker and joining me today on this ostentious, I was trying to say, I started saying ostentatious, but I meant to say ostensible day, a spacious day. Ronnie Karam. Hi, Ronnie. How are you? Hi. How are you? Really? Just right out the gates. Happy birthday. Still our birthday for the podcast. We turned 14 yesterday. so happy birthday to us thanks everyone who has listened and supported us for 14 years and helped us grow from this random side project with bad audio and indie music at the start of it and grow it into what it is today so we really appreciate you and we would still basically the same pretty much the same let's be honest 14 years later still having audio issues do we get to call this gay years that we've been together because we're gay.

1:24And so gay marriage is longer. It's like dog years, right? When you've been married for 14 years, that means we've been married for 98 years and gay years. Yeah, but we are gay, but I don't know if this is a gay podcast. It's about Bravo. Based on the fact that we're never included on any sort of list about gay podcasts. Well, you don't need to be on a list to have a dick in your mouth, Ben. We're a closeted gay podcast.

1:55you're not gay until another gay calls you gay. So that's right. Who cares? Why are you paying attention to gay lists? I just think it's really funny. I just think it's very funny that like, this is a way to start worrying about gay lists. Oh man. We are the Colton Underwoods of podcasting right now. rejected by the gays. So today we are talking about married to medicine. And before we do that, if you're listening to this in time, we are going to be on Amazon live to talk about some cool things that we've purchased. And on top of that, we have ad free on our Patreon, which is pretty groovy. And on top of that, we have a new newsletter.

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3:18So come back for that. Check our socials and all that good stuff for that. Obviously, it'll be announced in the newsletter, too. We're really pushing that one. Yeah. Yeah, sign up. Have fun. Today, it's time for Marriage Medicine. It is our mid-season girls' trip to beautiful, scenic Miramar, Florida. So, Miramar Beach. I think I've heard of Miramar Beach, but I don't inherently know where Miramar Beach is. It's giving panhandle vibes, especially because a contest at one point says that it's close to, did you say Pensacola, where she learned how to pilot a helicopter? It's like reminding me of like Destin, Florida.

3:58It's giving me those vibes. You want to drill down a little bit. Destin's nice, right? I think Destin is quote unquote nice. I don't know if it's like nice, nice. I think it's like nice. Well, this is in Broward County. Okay. Really? So it's in the Miami metropolitan area. Okay. So I completely got this wrong. I don't know why I got panhandle vibes. And I know it's a good place because there's a seminal hard rock hotel and casino there. Oh, pretty good. Wait, no. Wow. Okay. Come through Miramar beach. Just random attacks on Miramar over there. I don't know. I'm sorry. I just was, Listen, to say it's in the panhandle is not an attack.

4:44I just said, wait, no, Ronnie, you lie. I did? What? I looked it up on the internet. Okay, first of all, I looked it up on the internet as well. And guess where it is? The panhandle. It's actually right next to Dustin. Not only is it next to Dustin, but when you do a search on Google Maps for Miramar Beach, it says Miramar Beach, and then it says Ben & Jerry's. It really highlights that there's a Ben & Jerry's in Miramar Beach. there's also an Auntie Annie's and a DQ wow they really are they're really pushing look it's like the only things that they showed Miramar Beach on Google Maps are that there's an Auntie Annie's a DQ oh I guess because it's Miramar Beach I mean I like it you've just made me want to visit there they've got all my favorite things there why wouldn't I want to go there sounds amazing to me I'm not dissing it it's sounding better and better the more I talk about it Look, and it's also across the bay from a place called Niceville.

5:43Oh, we wouldn't be allowed there. But I like that there, so there must be like a Miramar Beach and a Miramar, Florida. Because Miramar, Florida is a neighborhood in Miami. Oh, okay. It's a suburb of Miami, it says. Well, let me tell you something. It looks like it's across a bay or a body of water from Niceville. and also highlighted just north of Niceville is Maddie Kelly Art Center. So, you know, a lot of, and Turkey Creek. Maddie Kelly is like, I did commercials in the 80s. Trust me, bring your kids to learn here. Smile big, kids. One hour air conditioning and heating. Why are these the things that Google Maps has decided to highlight in the region?

6:29One hour air conditioning really paid for that spot. They're like, listen, Dairy Queen's in it. We're paying for this, too. Start a GoFundMe. I don't care what you do. Get us on there. Google suggestions. All right, let's get started with this. I really don't care about Miramar. I'm enjoying the regional sights and sounds. They've got a Dairy Queen. That's all I need to know, okay? Okay, we're going to Miramar. So we go over to Quads, and King's like, why does it always seem like you're packing? She's like, because I always am packing, King. And this one's for the girls trip, Kingy. Little Kingy.

7:08And he's like, why are you packing your grandmother's dress? And she goes, your grandmother wore dresses like this. It's like this little tiny short dress that's all boobs. I know my meemaw wasn't like at the height of fashion, but whose grandma dresses like that? This looks like a granny dress to you. It's a flirty little dress. He goes, who are you going to flirt with? Oh, that's true. Nobody. Where's my habits? So then we go to Toya's house and she's saying, let's wrestle around these ladies. As if Toya is not the one causing. You just kicked the entire cast out of your house two weeks ago.

7:49So and Eugene's like, maybe you should pack some oxytocin. She's like, what? How do I get them to take it? Like what? You want me to be on drugs with my friends? He's like, it's a natural hormone. so that you feel happy feelings towards the person. Okay? She's like... He's like, how do you think I've stayed in this marriage? We have so much oxytocin upstairs. Then Contessa is... Contessa. Contessa. Miramar, Florida. Miramar Beach. Miramar, Florida. Miramar. Hi, Miramar. So she's asking Scott if he's going to help her pack, and he's like, what? Why do you have that big-ass suitcase? How long are you going to be gone?

8:30And she's like, for three days. So, like, you know, I have a big suitcase because I'm a lady. And he's like, she asked, do you like this bikini? And he's like, you look like a granny panty. You're such a hater. You're such a hater, Scott. What's up with the guys who keep on shading all the women for their old lady clothes? So weird. And why are you listening to Scott? He's wearing fucking sunglasses in his bedroom. What's happening to Scott? Don't forget Scott is an R &B music star. That's right. With a movie theater. So she's like, will you tell me what happened? I actually just forgot that Scott was an R &B superstar until I talked about it right now.

9:15I forgot. It was an unlocked memory. That's what happened on our Crappen's birthday. I got that unlocked memory. Yeah. So many wonderful unlocked memories about Scott singing his songs. so Contessa tells Scott that like everyone left this the Scrubs fashion show in a bad place or like they all were fighting she says that Toy got into it with Angel Simone got into it with Heavenly and also Contessa got into it or Simone got into it again with Quad and Scott's like oh man they've been bumping heads for quite a bit lately she's like yeah for years anyway Scott thanks for filming that scene with me you really were a great contribution to it and um you can go now we'll go to simone's and um she's packing as well it's a packing scene it's like i don't even know how i feel about going on a trip because me and quad are at it again and cecil's like yeah i mean i i figured you weren't gonna go after i saw what happened at that glamorous scrubs event and she says well i mean and who told you i was looking up a van i don't give a damn about looking up your cars girl i made it as a joke last year when you said i'm a find outologist but it was literally a joke find outologists

10:36she said i said it to heavenly quad needs to leave me alone before i look up the vin number on her car but i never looked up the vin number and even if i did so what am i not allowed to use the internet with this group of friends yeah am i not allowed to find out when your registrations do so cecil is like is heavenly egging on an issue with you and quad because it no it seems like actually you were in a good place but now this person's just gassing you up like oh shit Simone's like right now you know what else I think is some fucking shit Heavenly is trying to act like I'm having all these marital problems just because I said I want to have a divorce and I would be so much happy without you in my life Cecil and it's always three against one I don't know why she thinks I'm having marital problems it is I have no idea where she got that you've literally said every episode while sobbing that you're about to leave cecil what and cecil's like well we don't know what's going on in anybody's house here's what we do know it's the first thing in the morning i don't have a job and i'm watching you pack as i drink a yard of beer in bed you don't know what's going on in anyone's house we don't know if they have a basement bar that a husband stands out all day long pretending like he's in the shining waiting for jack nicholson to come by so simone is like yeah so stop fucking with mine stop fucking with my house unless you want me to put my real thoughts out there and he's like don't don't do that don't do that leave me alone now we go over to heavenly and she's like daddy did you see how simone acted a damn fool daddy could you believe that you would do that to me it's just me innocent heavenly with innocent in having divorced daddy was like could we could go in fight not fighting i mean the way she did all of this i mean i think miserable people do miserable things daddy don't you i think there's something going on with her but i cannot be her punching bag just because her marriage is terrible her husband is probably having a beer in bed right now and that's nobody's business but hers he's like i didn't like what she said i didn't like it at all oh are you mad daddy you didn't act like they were you were mad i couldn't tell you were mad daddy i was furious i was furious look this is my furious face oh daddy daddy oh you're really furious right now daddy while they're trying to trigger me daddy and i don't feel like i've done anything to simone i've been like a really good friend i really don't think so daddy so why do you don't think i should go do you you think i shouldn't go to the strip do you think so daddy because i don't really want to go on the trip but like if i don't have to go on the trip i won't go on the trip daddy yeah she did she She slipped so quickly.

13:29She's literally putting clothes in there. He's like, I can't believe you're even going to go on a trip. Oh, you don't think I should go on the trip? Oh, well, maybe I'm. You're right. You're right, Daddy. I didn't say anything. Yep, you're right saying I shouldn't go on the trip. Go on the trip. No, you're right saying I shouldn't go on the trip. I will absolutely not go on that trip. I'm not fucking going on this trip. I don't even know why I'm packing. I'm not going. I'm not going. I'm not going to go, Daddy. I'm not going to go. We don't want to go. Do we want to go? We don't want to go, Daddy.

13:56There we are. We're not going to go. She's basically like Colin. My precious, my daddy. Yeah, she's like, I'm not going to put myself in a bad situation with Simone. I don't want to slap the shit out of somebody. So I'm just going to stay here. I'm going to stay here because I'm an adult, an adult in politics. It's time for a commercial. It's time for a Crappens commercial. show. So now the other ladies arrive at the airport and they're excited like Miramar, Miramar. So Contessa tells us that she just, she picked Miramar beach, Florida. So that way they can relax, put a little sand between their toes, maybe go to the Ben and Jerry's, hit up the Auntie Anne's afterwards, DQ, who knows?

14:40And they can repair some of those relationships. So Angel's like, well, you know, I invited everyone to my nice event and I was just very disappointed with everyone's behavior. You're everyone. And Quad's like, I apologize. I can apologize. I am so, so sorry. I apologize, too, that I did not bring Quad's smog check records to the event. That was my bad. So Simone and Quad joke around and hug each other. So they're fine. And Contessa's like, oh, no, Heavenly, where's Heavenly? I thought we were all going to be on the same flight. She never mentioned anything. Well, Brandy, do you know? and Contessa is saying, well, you know, Simone, you're the reason she's not here.

15:25So listen, we're just going to focus on who is here and we're not going to focus on who's not here. We're not going to focus on that person who is heavenly, who is not here and she's choosing not to come here. So we're not going to focus on that. So Simone says that she heard that heavenly called her aggressive, unhinged, hostile. She's saying that Simone pushed her at Angel's event and that she doesn't feel safe coming on the girls trip. And Simone says, I could kick my own ass for trusting heavenly again. Once a snake, always a fucking snake. So now they go to Florida and they head over to their rental and they're not really sure at first.

16:09And Quad's like, so what made you select this area? Tess, we're close now. So I'll call you Tess. And she's like, Well, this is actually where I went to flight school in Pensacola. So there you go. I learned that the ladies don't know this, but I was in the Navy and I learned how to fly. I was in the best shape of my life. I was running. I was swimming. Scott wasn't wearing sunglasses inside. It was a different world. It's a different world back then. I could do literally everything that I wanted. I was incredibly accomplished and my pedigree was amazing. And then I met Scott and now I'm here.

16:50We have a movie theater that he has a little, a little director slate on the door that says now playing. And I pretend to laugh every time he points to the fact that we'll be watching another stupid movie. So Toya gets on Jackie and she's like, where's your friend that she's going to stay home. Then she's your friend. And Jackie's like, well, I don't know. I don't, I don't really know what's going on with that. I'm not going to be pulled into this. Well, she might come or she might not come. What do you say, Jackie? She's like, I don't know, Toya. Is she that upset? Tell us, leader of Oz. Tell us.

17:23What's going on with her? Jackie's like, I don't know. So they're like, well, have you talked to her? She's like, well, not about this situation. But what I'm waiting to do is have a conversation with everybody. Because, Simone, you were on a 10. She's like, all of your people were on a 10, too. So don't talk to me about 10. and don't talk to me about heavenly and her shit because once you start claiming some shit I didn't do there's no coming back I'm going to 12 so get ready and she's basically like look we're doctors we're licensed professionals and if you put out information on TV that I was violent or acting a certain sort of way I could lose my that affects my reputation and my medical career so Simone is not playing at all with heavenly's insinuation that Simone was physical or or doing something out you know like i know but i like that i like that simone's like that could affect my reputation i am a medical professional i wish they had just cut to the scene where they're like screaming in each other's face and had to be dragged apart physically by the other ladies like okay i'm sure that looks great i'm sure that looks great for i know right for your profession right like this we have 12 years of this show like how are you talking about worrying about your reputation.

18:39I think your reputation's fine. Yeah. Reality TV just in general is not going to be good for any professional's reputation. Yeah. Except for somehow Dr. Jackie. So Contessa, they get to the rental. It's really nice. And then they're going to go look, choose rooms and everything. And she, Contessa says that Angel and Brandy are going to have to share a room because they're newbies and it's a rite of passage. Angel's like, this is some bullshit where's the ritz carlton and uh no one's happy like the two of them are not happy about it which is funny because it's like they're like we are medical professionals and we work so hard and now we have to share a room together why are you doing this to us yeah so they pull straws for everybody else i like that contest is like okay everybody else can pull straws the newbies you're fucked but everybody else can pull straws um so they're paranoid and now is the run to find the room and meanwhile every uh the younger ladies are checking out their room and it's bunk beds and there's like two bunk beds and a full-size bed and they're like oh geez and we even have to share a bathroom what the hell angel tells us i grew up in in a household with five girls and we only had one bathroom and that was hell contessa you're about to traumatize me.

20:00I thought she was going to say, you know what? That's okay. So I know how to deal with this. It's no big deal. She's like, fuck that shit. I'm never doing it again. I'm not going back. I'm going to go back. Yeah. You shouldn't mention that to anybody because now it's on your resume and people are like, well, she can deal with it. She has five sisters, you know? Yeah, she knows. So Angel and Brandy are settling into their room and Angel goes, so you've got good energy. Okay. We've got good energy, right? You've got good energy. And Brandy's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm fine. And she goes, cause I have to have great energy around me, especially when I go to sleep.

20:31Okay. Can we make sure energy is as good as possible at sleepy time? Because the vibes got to be good for me. Cause that's the only way I can roll. And Randy's like, uh, okay, this is a bit much. Yeah. She's like, um, I mean, I'm, I'm going to move on, but there's like things I can't get over talking about the fighting last week. And she goes, Oh, okay. So you've got bad energy. And she goes, um, me as a person, I don't have bad energy. Right. She goes, okay, well, good. So tell me what you're working with so I can just know who I'm with there because I need you to have good energy because if you're not going to have good energy.

21:04And she's like, what do you even mean? She goes, I'm asking you what you've got so I can know how to roll. And she's like, if all else fails, my energy doesn't work for you, then Quad's door is always open. So now they start fighting over literally nothing. It's so funny. Yes. And Brandy is like, oh, really? okay ladies ladies if somebody came to you and said what's your energy going to be if your energy is good then we're going to be good in this room is that okay and angel goes uh oh no brandy says that and angel's like yeah but you were bringing energy into the room and she goes okay well then bring it down here to the group then wait i'd like to add something you brought the energy by saying that angel's like no i need to know who i'm in a room with because when i go to sleep i need to have good energy.

21:50And Toya's like, well, just apologize to your roommate. She goes, no, because she basically said, if I don't like her energy, then you're welcome to go by quad.

22:00It's like talking to the principal, right? So Brandy is like, well, that's after you said all that. Okay. Do you need a repeat? Do you need their playback? Okay. Do you have energy for their playback? Well, you check yourself because that's very aggressive. She's like, well, I don't know who you think you're talking to. And everyone's like, Mimi's like, okay, okay, everyone. okay okay okay and was like let's reset reset on the energy fight we not compelling enough to take up this much air time so angel's like okay well however you feel or however you took it that wasn't my approach and tori goes uh approach or intent because words are very important and this is somebody who knows what oxyclin is i think it's not a drug uh this is someone who's used oxyclean on her laundry, which makes me in a good mood, apparently.

22:48When Toya is giving you grammar lessons, you're in trouble. Yes. Angel's like, well, however you want to say it, that's however she can receive it. Contessa's like, Toya, you're not... Like I say in so many situations, Toya, you're not helping. So Angel's like, well, whatever you do, understand what I'm saying. However I delivered it, that wasn't my intent. That wasn't the way I wanted to come. And if I offended you, I apologize. They're like, can we just get into our bathing suits? We don't want to be part of this energy fight with the newbies. So now they go have like drinks and dinner by the pool and they're hanging out and Contessa's like, OK, I wanted to update you.

23:25I gave Heavenly a call and she did not answer. So I don't know why she's not here. I hope her family is OK. Nobody has been arrested five years ago and she's just finding out today. If that is something that tends to happen over there. Well, I know why she's not here. It's a moment we'll tell you, though. Uh-huh. She's saying she doesn't want to be around me for safety. Me, a doctor. Oh, well, she told me that you pushed her. And that's what she told me. That's what she told the people. I did not push her. I just said, take your arm off of me and do not touch me and use a windmill motion to get said arm off of me.

24:13wait so you didn't say get your motherfucking hands off of me no i didn't and brandy's like well even if she did that's not assault and she goes no i said get your hand off me do not touch me i'm not doing this fake shit with you des is like well i did see that situation and you were like no i don't want to be fake and i had to take that as an act of aggression between the two of them at all and quad's like Well, Simone can go for bad, but she's not that goddamn bad. She's not going to bust a grape in a food fight. This is my favorite thing. I love this. She won't bust a grape in a food fight.

24:56This is Simone we're talking about. She's like, I'm a chihuahua, a chihuahua who could look up VIN numbers, but I'm not going to bust a grape. she's not gonna bust an egg on easter sunday but just heavenly i think she was feeling bombarded and she was not feeling heard so it frustrated her and she was just out of it at that time and here's the thing she has to learn to not be that way and i say that as her campaign manager i mean look this is heavenly this is heavenly's bad for not showing up here because when you don't show up after something like this You let everybody else on the cast reframe it to however they want to.

25:40And that's what they're doing right now. Because this is a total reframe. First of all, Heavenly did start it by trying to start shit with Simone about the VIN number. You know, between Simone and Quad. Heavenly did start it. But Simone did also go to a 10 and was screaming and yelling and had to be pulled away by the other ladies in a very glamorous Scrubs fashion show. So let's all respect the fashion show of Scrubs, okay? We all know what work went into that. And so Simone was acting all kinds of crazy in that. But now they can reframe it to where it's like Simone was just being calm and rational.

26:19And Heavenly is trying to make her sound like a monster. They were all being so extra. It was basically a VIN fight. They were being so extra. because Simone was being extra that Heavenly spread this gossip. I think Heavenly was being extra in her denial. Heavenly could have been like, oh, I said it as a joke, whatever. Or why didn't Simone just say I said it as a joke and Heavenly, whatever. And then Quad was like, you're going to look up my van. I mean, like they just were, they really like took it to an extra place. Thank God. I mean, I enjoyed it. Thank God. I mean, it could be 10 years from now.

26:56And you can tell me, do you remember that time when there was a Scrubs fashion show and it was space themed and they got in a fight about a VIN number? I will still laugh. I will always laugh. That has an enduring legacy. So Simone is saying, look, we're two professionals in this community. Be a stand-up woman. Be a woman of character and address it. Address it right then. And Condessa is like, that's right. And by the way, if Heavenly does come, we can see that emotions were high and then emotions are high. And we know this memory can sometimes be a problem. And Simone's like, yes. She's like, I'm saying this because I would love it if this weren't a permanent rift in our friendship or your relationship.

27:41It's almost like, oh, it's permanent. It's very permanent. But if your group can't be honest with you, then nobody's going to be honest with you, right, Simone? So I hope you felt heard because you were heard. Okay, Simone. Okay, Contessa. You want a hug? You want a hug? I got some. No, I do not need a hug. I got some oxybenadone. Get your fucking hands off me. I do not need a hug. I got some Oaxacan food in me. It makes me feel nice to friends. Okay, guys, let's change the climate a little bit today. Okay, let's all empty our gas tanks into the pool. Okay. the mood is not what i want it to be so let's play some games let's play some truth or dare guys okay let's get in the pool let's do that so they get in the pool and uh they start playing truth or dare which i know is your favorite i know um contessa starts with a pretty broad question okay everyone tell us a funny sex story okay that's just just anything just tell us any sort of sex story let's let's get this game rolling.

28:44I was like, thanks for the specificity there, Contessa. So then Angel's like, oh my god, I have a story. I've got a story. Okay, does everyone have good energy for my story? I need good energy. Okay. Alright. So I went to the store and I went, I bought some spray for your mouth, you know, numbing spray. You know, so you can take it deeper. And I tried, so I sprayed my throat, right? And then it went numb. And I'm just like, oh my god, oh my god. And this shit was so numb, I thought I was gonna die. I'm running around. I was like, I can't swallow. I can't swallow. I couldn't even bless the man.

29:11My throat was numb. Turns out it was poison. I wish that you had been able to go through that with that blowjob just to hear what happened to the guy's dick with all the numbing throat spray on it. Like, what? I've never heard of that. It's like having a wiener so big that you needed to, like, numb your throat with throat spray. That's crazy. Yeah. She was gagged and gooped. so um now they're asking about sexy positions and so brandy's like she's she gets up and shows the ladies a position and quad's like yes show me the how to get those twins baby and so she does she's like doing like a sex move where she like squats down on it and then like flips herself backwards presumably with said wiener still inside of her and they're like wow that was amazing does it's like well thank you for sharing um but brandy goes brandy goes no you get it in and then you flip and then you keep it in and you just let it marinate there and that's how you get twin you let it marinate what is she talking about cooking chicken breasts or is she talking about sex so smold's like well i'm not doing any dares so contesta says well when was when was the last time you initiated sex?

30:33And she goes, um, we were in Greece in April and I gave head. I mean, I did the whole thing. Santorini was everything. Yeah, Greece will bring it out in you. I didn't even have to use Greece. And Brandy's like, well, what is it about Greece that, like, made you feel this way? And she's saying it was, like, really romantic. So, and Contessa's like, okay, Mimi, whisper your favorite dirty phrase into someone's ear. Which, I don't know, this felt like so slumber party-ish. So now Mimi's telling Brandy, are we giving booty or nah? I guess that's her sexy face. So sexy. So Quad's like, I could be very seductive.

31:13Do you dare me? Somebody dare me. And so Quad tells Toya, she's like, do you want to take a shower? And this is the second time of the night we hear how sexy it is to get clean and then get dirty again. Because we heard it on Potomac earlier in the evening. It's a big, big night for showers on Bravo. Big. That's right. So Quad's like, Contessa, what does your initiation look like? She goes, well, you know, fellatio. You know, I do that a little bit more frequently. You know, I don't really like it, but it's not my favorite thing. You know, my favorite thing is, I think, pursuing my dreams of flying and things like that.

31:51But settling and giving Scott Blowjobs, that's also kind of fun, I guess. What did she go back to school for? I forgot. Remember when she went back to school? Oh, when she went, I think she went back to school for, it was a specific type of medicine, like public health, maybe? Was it public health? Yeah, something like that, because she wanted to go to, didn't she want to go to Washington and work? She wanted to be like the health advisor or something. What did Contessa go back to school for? I mean, it's neither here nor that. It has nothing to do with the scene. I just remember. Public health.

32:27Oh, my God. How did I remember that? Yeah, you're so good. That is good. She went back to school to earn a Master of Science degree in public health from Meharry Medical College. Yeah. So anyway, blood drops. So she goes, I guess I need some spray, guys. Sorry, that was a sidetrack. I was just curious. So now everybody's waking up and calling their families. And then they gather to discuss the day and contest. It's like, you guys, should we chill? Do you guys want to go somewhere? Should we hang out at the house? What should we do? Do you want to chill? And she's like, well, let's eat. So how about some of us go to dolphin experience and then some people go to lunch.

33:07And so. Sure. Okay. Which one would you do, Ronnie? Dolphins, of course. Yeah. Dolphins. Of course. You know, I love dolphins. Yeah. I love dolphins. So Condessa, she's got these Jeeps that are called Mokes. And they're just like cute Jeeps. You know, that sort of, I love an adorable Jeep where you feel like you could just like fall out at any moment and die. God, it's so cute. Yeah, I know. I love the safety. I love the safety features on them with no doors or ceiling. They go slower than all the other cars. They are powered by your feet, Flintstones style. They're just so cute. Yeah, they really are.

33:53So Simone asks if she's talked to Heavenly. And Contessa's like, well, she responded to my text and she said it was Damon's birthday. And that's why she didn't come. And she didn't mention you at all. Although she did send a photo of Damon with his furious face. And it was this. It blinked one time. And Brandy's like, so she's not coming. She goes, I don't know. But the question is, did she overreact to something or was it intentional to actually try to get you in trouble? Or did it just get escalated? What happened? And Mimi's like, well, my opinion as daytime Mimi is that I don't think she was afraid of Simone actually hurting her.

34:37Maybe she was afraid of how she was going to respond and maybe what that could be. Simone says, use your words. Randy's like, we're all medical professionals with very good energy, I'd like to also add. And I feel like that should mean something. So you know how much your license and your livelihood, your practice and all that really means. And Candessa's like, and what's my question? My question is that. So Brandy tells us, I'm into the group. And every single event that we've had has involved conflict with Heavenly. Someone that goes to extremes is not someone that I trust as a person. So now they're teeing up a Brandy and Heavenly rift, which was already brewing because Brandy has declared that she was not ready to endorse Heavenly's political run.

35:19So Toya is now, Toya, Angel, Jackie, and Quad, They go to lunch and they're in the mocks. And Jackie is driving crazy, apparently. She's driving very fast to the point where her hat almost blows off. And Angel is stressed out. And Quad's like, oh, look, there's a little baby right there. Isn't that funny how when you want something, you see it all the time? The rare sight of a baby in the world. It's been years since there's been one seen on TV. It was a world of adults until I wanted a baby, and now they're everywhere I go. I couldn't even get into this mook without saying, what, we're taking a baby to the store?

36:02Did anyone notice that A.B. Grant's baby, baby was playing on the mook when we got in? It's one thing if you're like, oh, I never heard of that kind of roofing before. I never heard of that kind of shingle, and then all of a sudden you see that type of shingle on all the houses. But like, I think a baby is a pretty big, it's a pretty big category for, I notice babies everywhere. Yeah, there are babies everywhere. I was thinking of planting a tree in my house and now there's trees everywhere I look. I was thinking about this emotional wall I sometimes have and I looked. It's almost like every room I go into has not just one, not just two, but up to four walls.

36:40It's insane what you notice the moment you highlight it. That's called your reticular activating system. So if you buy a red car, you see a bunch of red cars. For example, one morning I told Curtis that he was being an ass. And then for the next five years, he couldn't stop searching for ass online. It's kind of like how once you notice that Cynthia Erivo wears those cool glasses and Wicked, you just start seeing them everywhere on TV. so quad uh tells them all that she tells us that she hasn't told everyone about what's going on with her idf journey because it's a lot and she wants to tell everyone once they're all together um she doesn't want to say it multiple times which means that she'll be having a speech at some point on this vacation so now we get to the dolphins and um everyone's like nervous around the dolphins because they're you know big animals and they're like is it gonna attack me and the dolphins are there and they're they're playing and then we cut to the other woman who are at lunch and toria's like you know it's gonna be difficult for simone being around heavenly sorry i'm just already laughing at how funny it'll be for the rest of us god it'll be great but she said last night she can be in the same room as her and she's like well but she didn't beat it though so they're talking about how how rough the event was the other night and angel's like yeah i mean i don't really get that and toy goes yeah but what were you talking about with me though angel like what were you talking about with me i mean because you said like what kind of friend are you what did that mean and she goes well when my friend came around to the family reunion and you said hey she's been asking me to hook her up with men who are you i mean that's not what you do undermine another man while he's sitting right there it's very disrespectful you should undermine men on national television behind their backs come on but also like it was i was surprised that that was her angle on it like i can't believe you would undermine a man that way it's like how about you can't believe that she would put your business out there while you're on a date you know like i think toya for sure can be annoyed it's like you just asked me to hook you up with someone but you actually you have someone why are you wasting my time And I think you can say that to Angel privately, but while Angel's on her date with this other guy, just be like, oh, you haven't, you have a, this is nice.

38:59How nice for you, Angel. We should talk by the way, or something like that if you're really displeased with her. But like, you don't have to like undermine the date. You can still be dissatisfied with her and express it later. Yeah. And she's like, but you confused me because you would say that you wanted to settle down and then you asked to find the Woody Buddy. And now I'm blindsided. at the family reunion, you bring this guy and he says he knows you for years and I was like, she's either willing to fuck up my situation with my husband's best friend. I mean, that was my family. You put my family on the...

39:30Toya. Here Toya goes. I'm just like, whatever. By the way, I'm sure Eugene's best friend, if he's been Eugene's best friend for a long time, he's dealt with a lot of her antics, Toya. I'm sure this is not the thing. This is not the straw that's going to break the camel's back. I'm sure this guy will be so upset that he got set up with a drop dead gorgeous registered nurse and oh he'll be so he'll be so upset by that and also even if you did set him up and she was dating somebody else she's allowed to date multiple people at one time yeah and there's that too it's not like you say oh wow i got a doctor so uh you're you're marrying him right it's not like an arranged marriage you know yeah so she's like yeah Eugene's best friend would have been so disappointed in me I'm like I'm sure that bridge has already been crossed but because I couldn't bring someone to whatever but um you know but that being said she does she does actually have a point that it is annoying that you asked me to go out of your way to do something that is unnecessary I know because she was just making like a little comment like oh my god if you know any man hook me up I'm single girls it's not coming to her like Toya please please find me a man.

40:43I'm desperate. It was like some comment on like, yeah, you got someone who's almost joking. Yeah. Yeah. I think that Toya you're allowed to have like, like low level annoyance. Like, um, you said you were like, you needed help, but you've got a guy. Like, why are you, why are you like acting one way? But I don't think it's, I don't think it's at the point where you need to be like, Oh my God, Eugene's best friend would never have forgiven me. It's like, you're being dramatic now. Toyo's like, well, she's mad that I blew up a spot, but she's willing to fuck up my spot. And Angel's like, you're funny.

41:17If you ever want to have a friendship with me, I don't want you to ever do that, ever. And Toyo's like, I'm going to let you go. I'm going to get to know you before I make any moves going forward. So there you go. No more access to Eugene's friends. Yeah, she's like, okay, well, I see how you are with the bed. I got it. She goes, yeah, don't do that. It's very disrespectful. so she stands her ground with toya which i thought was good you know and she's she says that that's bad girl code and it's very tasteless and tacky and that's probably why she has bad situations in the friend group because she doesn't know how to be a friend and angel's like and i don't need your help i'm good i'm amazing and toy's like i could tell this not dating and dating ruin people's families because you're going to try and date somebody in my family or so then quad's just bored she's like so are we good why are we still talking about this commercials here comes one right now so now heavenly comes and by the way this is the saddest lunch ever they're at like maybe a hotel or something i don't know where they are but it looks like kind of a hyatt place It looks like kind of a, you know, low to mid-range hotel.

42:32And there's nobody there. And the waiter's just like, hi, it's Wendy. Do you guys want to move inside? She'll, thank you, baby. Thank you, baby. I would have preferred to have actually gone to the DQ. Like, just go to the DQ at this point. Yeah, they must not have looked at the same Google Maps that we looked at. Yeah, seriously. Remember when we went to DQ in San Diego and that was super sad mall? Yeah. Hell yeah. That was fun. I also like the DQ and the sad mall in Burbank. I love a sad mall DQ. I love a sad mall, to be honest. You know what the saddest mall was? There was that one in Houston we went to.

43:08Ooh, that was so sad. The saddest of all. That was a weird mall. Houston mall. Yeah, like reincarpenning. Yeah, it was pretty bizarre. And then we went to the restaurant after, and it had a big, huge, lit billboard outside with different prayers on it. Yeah. Oh. Good queso. I like the queso. Yeah, and they're like, we caught this board today. anybody want to eat this boar? We just caught it. We were like, not really. I ordered it, didn't I? You actually did. You had the roadkill special, whatever it was. We just ran this over and cooked it up. Who wants it? You're like, me. I'm like, excuse me, can I have the boar charcuterie while I watch your Fox News scrolling on the wall?

43:47Can I have a baked potato? I love dolphins. You know what's so funny about the dolphins in this episode? I was looking at them because the women were sort of lined up and dolphins came over to them they were so cute and they're there but you really only see the top of the dolphin's head and their snout i was like they look so much like the alien and aliens i wonder if like dolphins were part of the inspiration for for that like the xenomorph art right did did they you know i think dolphins look like and it's someone i don't really even like i think it's the guy from stranger things um david guy david the one who kind of went nuts or whatever yeah yeah guy the guy um the one that lily tomlin lily tomlin wrote all the songs about yeah your fraternity brother harbour yeah david harbour yeah i think he looks like a dolphin i can see like a really drunk scraggly dolphin who bowls yeah there was a girl in my high school who um looked like a dolphin i felt like and i would i would call her dolphin probably not to her face i would just refer to her as dolphin and um yeah some people just look like dolphins that's just the way it is so heavenly comes into this sad lunch and she's like yo loud as hell i could hear you all the way all the way outside and they're like oh hi and it's awkward and she's like uh listen i just left the airport uh hi miss toya and toya's like uh you know you got to be careful when you touch people okay we got an issue okay so what are you gonna touch people now she's like i'm not gonna touch you because you're gonna say i'm being aggressive so heavenly's like oh is everybody doing good how's everyone doing it's like we are doing good uh we actually had a really good night yesterday and we had a lot of fun and i honestly didn't think you were gonna come right oh and heavenly's like well i need a little bit of a mental break for a second so i spent some time with my man because his birthday is actually tonight so i spent some time with daddy and we did some things last night and we were really good everything's really good.

45:48Well, what kind of things did you do exactly? They did some married things, Jackie. You don't have to ask questions about every little thing. So Heavenly, the producer asks her why she came after all, and she's like, well, Simone was saying a lot about me that I wasn't there, and Quad called me and said, listen, bitch, this is what's going down, so I came to set the record straight. Well, if I'd have known you were coming, I'd have gotten you a hat. I don't know why that's so funny to me. Like, oh, shucks, missed out on a hat from Toya. Evelyn's like, where'd you get that from? She's like, no, that was a lie.

46:25I didn't have a hat in the first place. Hat joke. Or as I call it, hat trick. Evelyn's like, okay, well, then where's the hat? There is no hat. Wait a second. So you're saying there's no hat? You know I'm trying to run for office. You're supposed to get me a hat if I'm running for office. So the other ladies at the dolphin thing, they were too scared of the dolphins. Dolphins are nice. Stop screaming around the dolphins, okay? You're in the dolphin's home. It's like walking into somebody's home and then just start screaming at the top of your lungs. They're dolphins. Be nice to them. It's also like you basically abducted the dolphins and you're keeping them in captivity and then you're going to be scared of them.

47:02You're the one that's screaming. The dolphin is in jail. The dolphin is being forced to do tricks by these two nitwits who are like, look at us. We can raise our hand and now watch the dolphin walks backwards on its tail. all for a little fish like you are you're holding them hostage okay and then now you're now you're the one screaming it's like going to visit a prison and just screaming at all the prisoners like you're terrified you're in their home yeah exactly although i feel like maybe one of the dolphins is just like honestly i know that we're captive but i just love entertaining yeah it's like the kid coming out to entertain parents friends at a dinner party yeah it's like You open the cage door and he wouldn't even leave.

47:44He'd be like, showtime's at eight. What are you talking about? But I like that they're screaming. They're like, oh my God, these dolphins, they could kill me. They're so big. They could eat me. And then the dolphin opens its mouth to smile and their teeth are like this big. They're like teeny tiny little teeth. The dolphins just got this huge smile. Those dolphins were fucking cute, man. I want to hug it all. They were so cute. I love the dolphins. So now the dolphin girls are heading back. and not to be confused with the girl you went to school with bless her heart she's probably listening to this somewhere just being like god well happy fucking anniversary to you bitch she'll never know who she is oh she knows she has no idea I don't think you walk through life with a dolphin face and don't know that you have a at some point somebody's been like you look like a fucking dolphin

48:33people are monsters is that the worst thing to look like though by the way someone said if you're a dolphin it's not i mean if you're a dolphin it's so cute but if you're not a dolphin it's a pretty bad thing to look like who wants to be told they look like a dolphin what animal do people want to be compared to i guess no one wants to be compared to any animal but people say i actually often walk like a penguin and i've accepted that really yeah i've never seen that i'll watch next time you want because my hand sticks out to the right i don't know why when i walk i like i sort of like waddle in a weird way i sort of teeter totter and my hand sticks out.

49:09And so I look like a little penguin. Um, and that's just, that's just my lot in life. I have penguin characteristics. This other girl has nothing characteristics. I don't think I've been compared to an animal. Well, my sister, one time when the movie Beethoven came out about the dog, my sister said, I looked like Beethoven. No, no, you're not giving Beethoven energy. I don't think so. I don't know. Maybe I think it was time accessible i don't know it's like a cute dog i i accepted it yeah it's a slobber girl she's out of my will but anyway that's neither here nor there dolphin girl so contessa's like oh i wonder what everyone else is doing they're probably just relaxing and like yeah maybe they had fun too and so now they're talking about how they're going to take some hoe baths and just wash the good parts no no contessa's saying she's going to do that contessa's like we don't really need to take showers right just to do a hoe bath and they're like uh we need showers we were just in water with dolphins we are showering you're in dolphin dolphin pee water okay there will be a shower contessa so now tory is like i think they had more fun than us and so heavenly comes in and she's like hey hey everybody and then i'm like she sees me and she goes oh my god maybe no one

50:30She does her like really nice voice for the new girls. Someone goes, well, I see y 'all brought the trash back. And Troy goes, well, are you going to be okay with the trash? Because Candessa, your friend is here and it's not okay. And Candessa's like, who's my friend? She goes, the one in the orange. Oh, you mean? Yes. How can't you try to see? We're trying to be shady. You got it. Like the part, the fun of being shady is you have to understand the shady reference. Okay. Someone's like, she passed by me without even saying hello. This is not going to go well. Why do you care about her saying hello?

51:04You hate her right now. Yeah. The producer asks Toya if she anticipates a shitstorm. Oh, yeah, there's absolutely a shitstorm approaching. Because let me tell you something. Something was undercooked at lunch. But also, I think there's going to be fighting with the girls. And let me just tell you about this shitstorm. Okay, let me go up to the green screen, and I'm going to do a weather lady thing. So she gets up in front of, like, a map, and it's like, here comes Hurricane Heavenly. It's Category 4 right now, and we're anticipating Hurricane Heavenly going to Category 5 once in its landfall. We are inviting everyone to shelter in place for the incoming disaster.

51:38It's going to be a shit storm. I like that Toria, even in front of a green screen, really not having to do anything, still looks like she would have no idea how to do the weather. She's like, and then there, there's a storm. And then there, there's Heavenly. And then there, I don't know. What am I pointing at? Am I supposed to point here? Am I supposed to point there? What am I supposed to do? Just put your arm up, Toya. Okay. There's a shit storm. I don't know. Could we get Eugene in here to do this part? It was a pretty cute episode, but I will tell you this. When Heavenly said she's not going to go on that trip, I audibly gasped and cried.

52:15I started crying. and then when she wasn't on the trip and they started playing that like truth or dare oh my god how do you get blowjobs I was like fuck this show this show needs heavenly I think they just proved to us how much this show needs heavenly because it came back to life the second she came back on I was like oh thank god the show is saved you and the dolphins whenever they any of these shows whenever I say let's play a game it's like okay this is my cue to get a snack from the kitchen because when I get back in 10 minutes you'll still be playing the game yeah um i uh i love heavenly i felt the same way when quad wasn't on the show i was like oh no yeah no no no no no i'm not we need them all on this one i've been on an i've been on up and down with quad i quad was like my all-time favorite for a while and then at a certain point she started to annoy me because i felt like i think it was during like the sister circle times it just seemed like she her heart wasn't in it and she was just sort of like doing like she showed up late or she It just felt like she also had like a lot of stuff off camera that like was the focus, especially the whole Mariah fight.

53:18It was this giant fight that went on for three years about something that happened at STK off camera. And that was like very frustrating for me. But I was foolish to ever sort of become anti-Quad because the truth is that Quad is a legend. Yeah, but Quad did go right up to that edge where she got too wrapped up in herself or something. And it started not working for the show. And then it became miserable. and then when she came back she changed she changed it i think she's you know she like i think the energy around is like fantastic she did yeah you realize like you and that happens with with with bravo stars i was gonna say housewives this is not a housewife show but it happens where sometimes the success you know they start to feel like they are bigger than the show and they go and then they they they lose sight of it and you know i will always stand that that's that is something that happened to Nene.

54:09Nene is Queen of Bravo. One of the all time best, if not the best housewife there ever was. But she lost, I think she lost her way and I'm actually really happy that I feel like she's going to come back to us. Because now everyone these days is like, oh my God, Nene was the best. How could Bravo ever get rid of her? You have to remember those late Nene seasons were not great. But then we see what the show's like without Nene and it's like, oh no, no, no, no, we need Nene. You know, there's just some things you can't make a chocolate chip cookie without the chips. You need them. That's the important part of it's in the title.

54:44You need it. And I think that your flour, these are essential ingredients of these shows, man. I mean, absolutely. So my quad, I need my Simone, I need my Toya, my Jackie. I think they're all really important to this. They are really, they are really good. And I like the newbies, quite frankly. I actually really like Brandy, even though she's done very little. There's like an energy about her that I just really enjoy. um i think they're okay i mean they're they're so much younger and different it's like a different it's like two different shows going on at once you know like when they're having their fight about the energy in the room and like i see like i like them because i think that they're making an effort and i like them for the most part but they're nowhere near the quality of the ogs i mean even in the first season when you first saw that i mean it was so it was so crazy right from the get-go with Mariah even, which by the way, Mariah is not one of the required ingredients, but Mariah was good in her time.

55:41She had her good years too. I always enjoyed Carrie because she was always like, this is absolutely crazy. I think she's going to be on Watcher Happens Live soon. Did I see that somewhere? These new girls, they're fine and they're not, they seem nice and I like them. They seem like nice people, but they're nowhere near the kind of star quality that the rest of the cast had from the get-go. That's true. That's very true. They don't have that star quality. But, like, yeah, this show has had some odd casting choices. Like, I never understood why Lisa Marie Cloud was ever on the show. Like, that's just not someone who's compelling on TV.

56:15She had some good years, too. I mean, or there were some good years with her on it. I was going to say, I mean, she definitely turned it up. Like, in the beginning, she just was like, hi, I'm Lisa Marie Cloud. And then she went nuts. But still, she never compared to the original cast, either. I agree with that. But, I mean, Heavenly was a great find. Oh, my gosh, yeah. I was like Buffy. Keep shopping. That's why you just keep shopping, you know? Yeah. I'm sad that they didn't bring Buffy back. I thought she was one of the great additions to the show. I didn't love Buffy so much. I wasn't too – I liked – she was fine when she was on, but I wasn't sad when she was axed.

56:56Yeah. Well, anywho, that was a fun little assessment of reminiscing. yeah well it's fun it's been on 12 years that's crazy and it's an anniversary we've covered every episode of this show that's nuts you know this this is one of the ones that we've actually covered well i mean no we haven't because we've taken seasons where we haven't but we've watched it's one it's been around as long as us you know it's not one like orange county that or new york that's had a history before we even got there so i don't always feel more protective and so much of the main cast is still there really the only ones that aren't there are just carrie and mariah and everyone else is still chugging along on the show, which is very impressive.

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