#3193 RHOBH S15E07 Part One: Haunting of Shrill House

0:20Well, hello, and welcome to Watch What Crapens. I'm going to make our faces bigger. What do you think of that? I'm Ronnie. That's Ben over there. Hi, Ben. Hi. Hi. How are you? Great, guys. Great. It's another day. Another glorious day. And this one's a good one because it's a Friday. We love a Friday. My God, Ronnie. I know you hate when I do this. Who just died? Come on, man. It's not a good one. Oh, no. Don't do this to me. It just appeared. oh that's the worst possible thing for the day ronnie don't tell me i don't want to know katherine o 'hara oh my gosh oh my god where did that come from oh my god how did that happen to us literally what happened how did she pass away i don't know it just broke right now i just got like a million text messages and it's like we're within the same 12 months as diane keaton it's just not allowed it's not allowed what a trash that's terrible i know well let's well r.i.p to a great comedic actress yeah seriously today in her honor that is for sure that is for sure sorry Sorry, sorry to...

1:41I know. God, way to start the show, Ben. Jeez. Sorry, everyone. Come to the crappies next week. Come to the crappies this month, everybody. Tickets are on sale. Live voting will begin this week. Okay, that was Beverly Hills. Bye. Okay, I'm going to pretend I did not hear that and move along. Welcome to the show, everybody. Today is Beverly Hills Day. Tickets are on sale for the Golden Crappies on February 27th. We have confirmed our guest list, and it's really good. You're going to want to be there, so be there. That's in Hollywood. Get your tickets at WatchWhatCrappens.com. Also, live streaming tickets will be going on sale this week, February 4th, and that is the same day that voting begins for round one of the Golden Crappies.

2:30You're going to find information about that stuff on WatchWhatCrappens.com or Instagram. We're also changing our Amazon live days. Well, it's the same day. It's Monday, but it's going to be at 1.30 p.m. So it's a nice early day for those of you into doing your home shopping the daytime. So we're going to be doing it now. So join us for that starting this week. And we have a special guest on Crappy Hour this week coming up, Miss Crystal Kang-Ming Kang from Real Housewives of Beverly Hills and her own glorious podcast. will be here with us Monday night. So join us for that at 5.30 Pacific time to talk to her.

3:09She's a good one. She's a good actor. And how appropriate to announce that today when Crystal herself had her triumphant return to Beverly Hills last night in the form of a flashback and a comeback. But still. And Kyle talking shit about her. But, you know, she was... And like the butt of derision. But still. So we'll get her right when she's fired up to talk shit about Kyle Richards, which is my favorite pastime. So we are so excited to talk to her. So join us for that. Today is Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. Also, the Valley Persian style. Also, the trainers. It's a crazy day over here in our world.

3:48So let's get to that. There's so much to talk about. There's so much to talk about, about all these shows. Well, less about the Valley Persian style, but whatever. But I have to tell you something before we even start talking about these shows. So my friend has been telling me, there's a show you have to watch. It's so good. And I was like, I don't want to watch it. It doesn't sound good to me. I don't know why it didn't sound good to me. I didn't want to watch it. So I was telling her, she said, what have you been watching? I said, well, I was trying to watch that members only Palm Beach show, but it really does kind of feel disgusting.

4:15I started episode three and I was like, Ooh, maybe later, you know, maybe I wasn't in the mood. And she said, what's it about? And I was telling her it's about this girl who got the girl, she's 70, but this woman who is kind of new to Palm Beach and she wants to, you know, get in with the rich ladies and And she wants to be in Mar-a-Lago, which is like so bizarre to me. But, you know, they're all crazy. I don't get any of it, but it's hilarious. And she said, that's the exact same plot of the show that I'm watching that I'm telling you you have to watch. And I'm just not saying the name of the show because I felt so stupid that I wouldn't watch this show.

4:47It's Palm Royale. Have you seen that show? It is so fucking funny. I love it. It is made for gay people. I've never seen it. I heard the first season was not good. I wanted to watch the first season and everyone was basically like, yeah, it's like everyone wanted to really like it, but they didn't like it. But then everyone said season two is like what season one should have been all along. That's what I've heard. I keep hearing it wasn't that good. I tried it. It wasn't that good. And I was like, well, I don't want to see Kristen Wiig fail because I love Kristen Wiig. And of course, it's a show with all these fabulous actresses.

5:23You know, I mean, every actress in it is top tier. and so I didn't want to not like something like that so I just didn't watch it but man I started watching it I think I just watched three episodes what a show it's so fucking good it's like so those of you who don't want to watch members only Palm Beach because of the politics or whatever I don't blame you watch this one it's so good it's the same plot but with you know more talented comedians so check out great great for those of you who haven't heard it's on its third year I'm just hearing about it but you know that's how I roll I don't know if anyone's heard of this.

5:58I just started watching this show. It stars Bonnie Franklin. It's called One Day at a Time. And like, honestly, this is it. This is it. This is it. This is life. The one you got. Let's go and have a ball by talking about the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. Yeah, I wasn't really a One Day at a Time fan. I'm not going to lie. I thought that show sucked. My cousin, you know, my cousin was a cast member on that show. at some point, believe it or not. Well, it's okay. It's okay. It's distant cousin. Awkward. I haven't spoken to him since I was like, it's like 1985. Well, I wouldn't speak to him either because that show sucked.

6:34You should tell him. Don't shame him for being on Monday at a time. Don't shame him. I think he was like, he played, before Schneider was around, he was like, he was the character. I don't know. I think I've mentioned him before on the podcast. His name is Richard Masser. And he was in the in the he was in the movie licensed to drive he's been around he's been around but like i haven't i haven't um uh like literally the last time i saw him was at his mom's funeral in 1986 and i have a distinct memory of this because i remember going to the funeral and this is when mad max beyond thunderdome was like in theaters and we didn't have cable growing up and went to the shiva afterwards and like for some reason mtv was on and like the music video for we don't need Another Hero was on and I was like wow and I just remember Richard Masser and Tina Turner and me all in the same room we don't need another hero we don't need to find a way what a morning song this is a crazy morning song RIP his mom Claire wow Claire Masser.

7:48Okay. Alright, let's get to it. Real Housewives of Beverly Hills, season 15, episode 7, headlines and heartbreak.

8:00Also, I want to say about Beverly Hills, for some reason all day long, you know what I kept on saying? The quote that was going through my head all day long yesterday was, Who is Adrienne Maloof in this world? She's no one. I don't know. I just kept on saying it to myself. We were saying that the other day. We were saying that the other day when we were out together having drinks about somebody. We were talking shit about somebody and we were like, oh, who is so-and-so in this world? Like even just saying that about Adrian Maloof, who I have no personal beef with, I mean, it just made me feel good.

8:31I was like, who is she? She's no one, you know? Felt great. Just made you feel better today. Who is she in this world? She's no one. Who's Adrian Maloof in this world? well um we open with kind of that mentality where rachel comes to erica's house and tries to pretend it's amazing she's like oh my god this is so beautiful i've never seen such a good looking broom closet so does this lead into your house or this is this is like great where's the rest I love it thank you for showing me the garage wow so this is where you what keep umbrellas yeah is this like the pre-show experience is this like when you go to a restaurant and they like sit you at the bar and give you some apps and then they bring you to your table where's the table part of your house I love it like I'm so sorry but I'm not great at weekend dressing like during the day I can't do the daytime fuck the day like what's the day even dead I'm dead I'm like a vampire I only do nighttime.

9:35Like I can do night. I can do a bathrobe. Like that's what I can do. I can do night and a bathrobe. You wear bathrobes in the day. That's what you do. You wear a bathrobe over a crop top and some flowy pants or something. Memo to self, maybe don't hire Rachel Zoe as a stylist. It's like, hey, I've got to go to a function. I've got to go to a luncheon. I die. It's going to be a bathrobe. Sorry. Until the night that the sun goes down, I can't dress you. I can't do weekend. Weekend daytime. No, I don't even know. I die. I literally don't. So Erica's like, yeah, I don't know how to do anything. I can do costume and I can do sweats.

10:08That's me, relatable Erica. So Rachel's like, I just love Erica. I love her energy. And I just like gravitate towards people that have like things in them that I don't have. For instance, massive lawsuits about plane crashes. She has a fearlessness about her. Not a lot of talent, but fearlessness. And I just love that she's just like fucking real, with that whole alias that she has. She just keeps it fucking real. Erika Jayne, real. Okay. We're going to go with that? All right. So, Erika, would they go out to the cabana? I just had this redone by someone from television. Now, can we talk about last night?

10:52Let's talk about it. Erika, what? Oh, and she's like, Erika, what the fuck? I did not see that coming. check you out. I didn't see it coming either. I mean, I wasn't really looking. Where were we? What was last night? I don't care about these bitches. I was drunk. I was blackout drunk. No, because there was a blackout, remember? It was a joke. Oh my God. But seriously, I didn't see it coming because the lights were out. Oh my God, second chicken around. I'm like dead. I don't know what to wear for weekend like daytime, but I can like make a lot of jokes. I feel terrible. Like, I don't know what Dorita's going to do with like Amanda, but I know what we can do with Amanda, which is like talk some shit about her right now.

11:29And by the way, I really, this is a side of Rachel I'm really enjoying. I'm liking her. Well, it's a mean side. She's basically high school mean girling right now, but it's like a funny side to me because Rachel's just been nice all season. She's like, yeah, oh my God, I die. Look at that kaleidoscope. It's like shapes. It's like amazing. And now she's like, this fucking bitch. Can we talk about her? Can we ice her out of Hollywood now? I'm ready. I'm like, there we go. Thank you. The signs of life on the show, part two. Last week I was perking up And this week I was like Talking shit about people Let's do it Yeah She's showing up to work It's time for a commercial It's time for a crappin's commercial And Erica's like Yeah I don't know what she's I don't know what Dorit's gonna do with Amanda She's like yeah I mean like what the fuck That was crazy Like oh my god And then she's like Oh my god It's the anniversary of her son's death And I was like literally dark Like I went dark Like where's the lights Oh my god am I even wearing a bathrobe right now?

12:30I don't even know what I'm wearing. Like, what, what is this? Like, am I supposed to eat in the dark and think this is romantic and give you $500 a dinner? Like, what is this? Why is it dark? Turn on the lights. I want to see who I'm dating. What were we talking about? Like chef Leo, like it's so dark. Like, where's your salad? I can't see anything. Like I went dark. Everything went dark. It was just like blackness. It was like, are people even still here? Am I talking in the dark? Is it like the food store tastes better? Cause I couldn't even see it. Cause it was just like so dark. So Erica's like, well, I mean, how could we have known about the anniversary of her son's death?

12:59I mean, Amanda's given us a lot of information about her business and her accolades, but nothing this personal. Which is, you know, I mean, Erica has a point, especially because Erica has famously given us so much about her life over the years. That time we saw a brief flicker of her son. the time we saw the two people who work for her who are I guess her friends and none of her other friends the time she ate that piece of cake at that restaurant with Tom and then they met like the sheriff of like whatever that they had paid off to help them you know like keep fucking people over oh there was a time last week where she cleared a cobweb off a chair so that was really like yeah she sprayed down her car in short shorts yeah Yeah.

13:46Yeah. She knows a thing or two about really revealing the personal side of your self. So Erica's like, can I just say something? I'm sorry, Rachel. Rachel said that. That's me. I'm saying something. Can I say something? Hey, me. Can I say something? Yeah, me. You can do it. Okay, great. Does it bother you that when you're in like a very tight space and someone who's being just like loud on like a call? It's like, it's like, have you ever been in an elevator? Have you ever been like one of those tiny elevators that like one of the first elevators ever made where it's so small? And then like someone gets in and then they're like on the phone and you're like, but we're in an elevator, you know?

14:20Have you ever been in a well, like just like in a well, like standing there and you're like, why are my feet wet? Because I'm in a well. And then someone gets on a call and you're like, we're in a well. You know, sometimes when I think about Ocean Gate, I'm like, wouldn't it have been terrible if like right before that happened, someone was on the phone? Just awful. Have you ever heard of a person in a coffin making a phone call? That would be so annoying. Like what? remember phone booths like what a terrible concept you're just like in a small space with the phone small space making a call she goes yes it's annoying it's real fucking annoying and so we see the uh car ride in sedona where amanda is sitting between these two like okay yeah so like quickbooks you understand it's like quickbooks it like does our taxes and i want you to call quickbooks right away and tell them that i will not handle this and i will not take a phone call um it's a printer working the printer better be working office office do we have pens in the office paper clips paper clips paper clips i'm rich it was so insufferable she's like i mean amanda's awful like she is so awful like i see her and i'm like you are the worst but i am so so entertained by the other women being so annoyed by her but it is starting to teeter into that that place of like okay now i'm getting annoyed at her too but she is she's like but i don't know she sucks yeah she sucks so but it is funny because she's the one there i think the casting was like okay everyone just sees i mean it's kind of like low energy beverly hills has been showing low energy what we really need to energize these women is someone to hate so let's get if if sutton's gonna only drink five drinks a day now we need to get somebody in here who's just going to be hateable for these women and just let them beat up on somebody for the whole season and enter Amanda.

16:17I think they saw Amanda breaking Kyle's floors on Instagram and they were like, hire her. She'll make Kyle crazy. Do it. Absolutely. So Rachel's like, yeah. She was like loud as fuck in that car. Yeah, it feels performative. Like, oh, look at me. I have a great business. I'm so successful. We know that. Also coming from Erica. I mean, Erica spent her first. I mean, everyone forgets what I don't think everyone forgets, but we forget sometimes what Erica started the show as like, I'm rich as fuck. I can do anything I want. I've got private jets. I've got a huge ass. I'm talking about her money nonstop.

16:55I mean, she was 20 times as bad as Amanda. She really was. And her whole thing wasn't manifesting. It was like, yeah, fucking some old man trimming over his balls. What the fuck do I care? I've got a plane. I got a church in my house, bitch. so erica can stop it with the performative because please seriously she's literally a performer so erica's like oh well she wrote a book she's successful that's her business yeah godspeed i like don't love the name money queen but like that's like not for me to judge even though i just am basically judging it right now it's not for me to judge if that's the name of her business so like women supporting women that's like what i do but like stupid theme stupid name stupid the top of your brand.

17:33Yeah. Like sometimes people like perceive me as being over the top. Like, I mean, look at me. I'm just like nuts. Right. Like I'm totally crazy. You look at me and you see like a high speed chase. I'm like, I'm crazy. Did you hear the part about like the only thing I know how to wear during the day is like a robe nuts. So like, I'm quiet about my work and my business and my accomplishments and whatever I've achieved in my life. I mean, you're wearing my clothes and you're sitting on my pillows. So what do I need to even say about it? I'm like so quiet about like my business. Like in fact, I don't even like saying the word business.

18:07Like when I say business, I go business because it's like, I'm so quiet about it, which is why everyone got a gift bag with like Rachel's old products last week because it was like a quiet gift bag. Like if you, you probably couldn't even hear them. Like they don't even make noise when you squish them. They're like, not like, cause it's a quiet business. Yeah. She's like an airline attendant from the sixties, this girl. And Erica just looks at her and like, the sixties, I wasn't, I wasn't live in the sixties. What the fuck are you talking about? It takes her a minute to get it. And she goes, yeah, you know what I mean?

18:35Like, hi, I'm a pen. I'm a flight attendant. Like, I've got the demeanor of like, okay, like, how should I respond to this? Like, what should my reaction to this be? I'm like trying to meet your needs. Like, do you want pretzels? Do you want peanuts? Do you want coffee? Tea? I'm rich. So then we go to Canyon Creative Studio interior design store. and Kyle enters, you know, like in jeans or something, but they're doing the slow motion where she's like, she's like, yes, someone's going to a furniture store in Beverly Hills, couches and couches for girls, couches, couches for girls. Yeah, Kyle is like, she's got these big jean shorts.

19:23They're like puffy and they are, they're long. And so then Amanda comes in and she's wearing this sundress and crimped hair and everything. And she's like, hi. She's like, oh, okay. So are you looking for anything specific to destroy my home with? No, it's for like Newport, actually. Like actually everything's like done other than the theater. Wait, wait, do you guys want to hear about the theater? No, this is from my Beverly Hills home. Sometimes it's hard to remember with all their homes. Oh my God, let's do a flashback of us looking at the theater, guys. Come on, let's go back to that. I'm sorry, did I mispronounce it?

19:55I meant to say theater. So yeah, we're doing my theater. And so we see them in their home theater and she's like, I don't want theater chairs. I want couches. Like I want a couch here and then I want a couch there. I don't want chairs, Eddie. I want those like lovesack posts in the front. You know, the ones that cost$4 ,500 ,000. Put them in the front so that way no one wants to sit on them. Yeah. And Eddie's like, yeah, you better listen to her. She's about five minutes away from cutting a bitch.

20:25Thanks, Eddie. I really appreciated you standing up for me. like that. I manifested that. I went on Justin Martindale's podcast. I think it'll come out in a couple weeks, but I recorded it yesterday with him. He's so funny, and he was talking about Eddie, and he really verbalized something that I didn't say because a lot of times you get in trouble. He doesn't give a fuck about getting in trouble, I'll tell you that. But sometimes we get in trouble for saying things like, that guy's probably gay. You're not supposed to say that. I get that. It's like basic manners. I don't know that he's gay or not, but he does definitely do things like in that first scene where he's like i don't think they know you because like in one more second you're gonna cut a bitch or he'll be like reader for filth girl you know we were dying laughing about that and how she's like yeah you know i met my husband in west hollywood like i was crossing santa monica boulevard going from like one gay bar to the other gay bar and then the husband i manifested was right there saying read a bitch girl you know so like we're in love we got married now i support him and i pay for everything that is really funny if you think about it oh my god so kyle's like so um how is everything do you want to talk shit about dorit i will let you do that right now if you'd like i am a shell of my former self like a really little wealthy shell what are you those little russian dolls that keep coming apart and there's another one inside because you were a shell before how many shells are you you're just like you know when you make a three egg omelet and then you sort of like you crack the first egg and you sort of put it down for a moment you crack the second egg and sort of nest it in the other one that's what she is she's just a bunch of old omelet shells i actually saw a video on the internets of somebody cracking an egg and then it said once in a lifetime experience and then they cracked the second egg but there was another full eggshell inside with another egg.

22:21How does that happen? What kind of steroids are you taking to be double egging it? That's crazy. And they ate the egg. They cooked it. They ate it. Did they eat it like Rob on the Traders? I'm telling you. Just stuffing it in his mouth. We'll get to that everyone. Isn't that just a sign of being a traitor? The love of hard-boiled eggs. It's so bizarre how it happens every season on that show. It's so bizarre. What I was going to say is I once saw a video on YouTube of people, they were like, they cracked, for some reason they like cracked open an egg and there was like two yolks in it. And then they cracked open another one.

23:03It was two yolks. And they went through like their entire thing of eggs and each egg had a double yolk in it. And they were like losing their minds. I mean, it was crazy. That stayed with me. That stayed with me for like 10 or 12 years, everyone. We both have egg trauma today. I always think about that. Like, can you imagine all those double yolks? Double yolks. It's something. I'm a shell of my food. We're doing something to our food supply. Okay, guys? Something is happening out there. We need to discuss it. Something's happening. She's like, yeah, I'm a shell. So, like, Rachel's party took a toll on me.

23:38Like, I woke up every 30 minutes all night long with my heart. My heart was, like, pounding. And that says to me that my body experienced that interaction as a physiological threat. Oh, God. Please stop. No, it means that you had too much salt. It means you're on a housewife show and someone tried to start a fight with you at dinner. Okay? If you're going to be like physiological threat, you're a physiological threat. Just go. I mean, my God. It's like the person our first week at work, they've already had a cold three times and just keep calling in sick. Like, you can't just get mad at me because I have a cold.

24:11That's against the rules. No, I don't want a weak person living here. Okay? Survival of the fittest. You are a bad apple. You will no longer be working at Applebee's. Go. This is my favorite version of Kyle Richards. When Kyle is less concerned about protecting her image and more thinking to herself, am I really going to have to shoot a full season with this cuckoo right here? Kyle is like, she's nodding supportively and like pursing her lips and her eyes are bulging like, are we getting this on camera? Yeah. And Kyle doesn't even like Dorit. So she's ready for this girl to come for Drees. She's just like, oh, God, I have to hang out with this person to get to the means to my end or whatever.

24:54Like, this is the means to my end. You know, like, oh, God. And Amanda's like, I, like, couldn't sleep. Like, I don't have emotional breakdowns truly ever. But it was like every 15 minutes, heart racing, headache, fever, sweats. My temperature was up. It was you had the flu. You have the flu. The only thing that calmed me down was my husband singing, is there life after love? I mean, seriously, you know, I'm like a really grounded person. I like to keep my wits about me. So thank you for complimenting me and saying that I stayed cool and calm and collected because yeah. And Kyle goes, yeah, I don't really get upset.

25:34So, you know, if I, if I get upset, no, she goes, yeah, I'm, I don't stay calm and collected. Cause like, if I get upset, I can, it's hard for me to keep my wits about me. So like, I mean, you were very composed. You were very composed. Like Dorit was acting in a way that felt aggressive and like there was an attack energy. This is not how classy women behave. I expected remorse from Dorit at the very least. And I heard crickets. And what people don't know is that like crickets are a very aggressive insect. And I just felt very attacked. And I just would like to draw a boundary against the crickets because I could not sleep thinking about those crickets.

26:18yeah you know like she disrespected me and she respect disrespected my son on the anniversary of his death oh she did not call like your son fat or something come on now she's like taking this too much she's taking this too far now Dorit was wrong last week when someone says there's there's as we said last week if somebody says you know what my son died this is the anniversary of my son's death whether or not you thinking they're whether or not you think they're using that as a card. They did use the card. You cannot keep playing once the stopper has been used. It's just tacky. Dorit should have known better.

26:50So Dorit was 100 % wrong, but Amanda is going to completely use her son's death to get, you know, to make points, and that's disgusting. If anyone's disrespecting your son right now, it's you. Like, this is like verging on gross now. Stop. She is going to, but what's funny is that later in the episode, Bo's is basically like, well, I've got that card too, and I've got the husband card as well. So good luck, bitch.

27:17Bose became a national. I mean, Bose was already pretty beloved, I think, on this show, especially, you know, here in this house. We already love Bose. But this, I mean, I'm getting a Bose poster from my bedroom now because I was like, holy shit. Like just to lay it out like that and be like, no, she's using it. And that's it. Like, she shouldn't do that. That's disrespectful. Who does that? You know, I was like, yes. Yes. President. President Bose. I'm excited because I feel like Bose has not done enough this season and it's not even her fault I just feel like the show hasn't given her enough except for the you know the IVF storyline I was on LaKendra Tooks' show earlier this week it'll be coming out sometime soon and we were talking about this and I was like I really don't like when Bravo saddles someone a relatively newbie like a sophomore, sophomore season person with the IVF storyline.

28:14Uh, because obviously it's a very relatable storyline. Lots of millions of people go through this journey. So I know that's why Bravo puts it in there. But the truth is if we were, if we really have to like get down to brass tacks of what the IVF storyline is on Bravo, it's usually watching someone, um, do shots or not do shots take shots and then maybe they might cry or maybe they'll self-type but like it wasn't good for megan king edmunds it wasn't good for candace it hasn't been very compelling for bows quads doing it right now and it's she's only getting away with it because usually after she takes a shot she's like why oh king but like it's just i i'm i'm afraid i was like bows i feel like was such a good, had such a good first year.

29:01She's such a good addition. And now like they're sort of putting her in the slot of like trying to have a baby taking my shot. And I just am like, there's nothing wrong with that. I think it's just, I don't think it's compelling television. Yeah. I don't think anyone on this show has the most groundbreaking personal storylines. I mean, Kyle's got her thing with Mo. I guess that's kind of, Dorit has her divorce. You know, there's kind of that stuff, But I don't think this cast really shines with the group work and the arguments. Because no one really has a story. So I forgive her for that. I think she's been pretty good in all the group scenes and calling everything out.

29:39And I think it's exactly what this group needs. It's kind of taking the Garcelle role because that's what Garcelle did. She would call stuff out. But I just feel like I would like her to center her a little bit more. I guess that's more of what it is. I feel like sometimes the people who are in the IVF storylines just wind up on the side. and their whole thing is they're in the bathroom giving themselves, administering their own shots. But meanwhile, we're stuck with endless scenes of Kyle Richards moping around. And I just, you know. Maybe show the Jimmy Fallon show, you know, like making that and coming up with the ideas to do that or whatever she's doing, you know, like her.

30:17Yeah. I'm not saying that there's nothing going on in Bose's life. I'm just saying I wish the show gave her more to do on her solo scenes. And again, it's not to take away. I'm not being like, oh, stupid IVF, who cares? Because millions of people go through it. They identify with it. But I just am not sure for me. And maybe it may be, you know, I'm speaking through the lens of a guy who doesn't really deal with this stuff. But for me, it's just not terribly compelling. Well, thanks for ruining the Bose just became a national hero day, Ben. No, I'm saying she is a national hero. And this is and like the show should lean into this.

30:50What's going on here? Holiday canceled. Everybody go back to work. She's been on the sidelines for all these episodes. And finally she is like, has a really good episode today. And it's like, we should, the show should have been trying to find these moments for her all season long. It's what I'm saying. It's actually a very pro Bose moment. Pros Bono. So anyway, back to Kyle and Kyle is like, well, I do wish that once you said that, you know, she would have liked to have said, let's, I wish when Dorit said, you know, we can talk about it another day. hey, I wish you would have said that, that you don't want to talk about this.

31:28Because, well, those are words that should just stop anyone in their tracks, right? Like, shouldn't that have happened? And we see - Yes, that's true. They should have stopped, but still. Yeah. Like - Yes. And Dorit, it is funny watching it back how Dorit is like, I'm so sorry that you're going through that. And it's a terrible thing. And I will stop talking about it right this instant. But as I do stop in the silence that remains, perhaps you can think about why you have an opinion about someone who's going through a divorce who you don't really know very well. And maybe you should address that about why you have these things to say about me and BK.

32:06Thank you very much. Yeah. And Carl's like, well, I mean, like, obviously I can understand like Amanda being like super sensitive, but like anyone in her shoes would be sensitive. I just don't think Dorit meant it like Amanda thinks she did. I mean, Dorit didn't know that information, but the point is that she found out the information and she kept going, Kyle. But, yeah, nice try. And Kyle says, well, does it bother you the way that she addressed it? Or does it bother you like most that once you told her it was the anniversary of the baby passing? Yes, Kyle. Yes, that's what she's saying. And she's like, no, what bothers me the most is that she thinks it's appropriate to verbally accost someone with an accusation and aggression instead of asking them a question.

32:45I mean, it would have been highly inappropriate if it was the anniversary of Zion's death or not. And it's a whole other thing that I told her that I couldn't gather my thoughts. And, you know, she goes off and stuff like that. But, you know, coming at you with aggression, she really didn't come at you with aggression. She was like, I heard you were talking shit about me. And you were nice to me before, so why are you talking shit about me now? I think in Housewives world, that's not really aggression. But it's not. and Amanda has something else to say that's pretty devastating, which is, I will not go to dinner parties feeling emotionally unsafe.

33:24Okay, well, everyone, we got to stop production. Let's make sure she feels emotionally safe before we shoot the next scene. This is very important. So then this is where Kyle goes, I mean, it's giving Crystal Mink off, and we see a flashback of Crystal being like, I was violated. The word violation means it's an abuser, privacy, and distribution. I'm like, how dare you? I'm sorry. I know that was a whole thing back then. Amanda Francis is not Crystal. Okay. Like, I'm sorry. That was rude. Crystal is so much better than Amanda. I'm not even saying this because Crystal is coming on the show on Monday.

33:57Like Crystal was like head and shoulders better than Amanda. Amanda is like truly the stereotype of like the aging millennial, but like, and Crystal is an aging millennial as well, but like, or elder, elder millennial, not aging millennial. she's a decrepit old millennial but um okay well crappy hours just us on uh no just kidding i know um you know i think what kyle is saying is like it's that it's because the old the older cast it looks at these younger ones they can't deal with it it's like i'm emotionally unsafe i can't like i was violated you know so i got i definitely got what she was like definitely got what she was saying here like oh god here we go like you don't feel safe at work okay honey right amanda is more of the stereotype that like when people talk about the millennials because this is the big thing over the past like seven or eight years about how millennials sort of talk and how they draw boundaries and like i can't be i can't do this at work and gen zers do this as well and like yes crystal dipped into that language or dipped into that sort of you know that that that that approach.

35:08But Amanda is the true stereotype here when she's like, I won't have my cortisol spike and my nervous system dysregulated because she can't speak to me like an adult. God, it's amazing. You know what? And let me tell you something. If you get cortisol spikes and you get dysregulated nervous systems because of a conversation at dinner, I literally don't want to buy your book on how to be better. You know what I mean? Like you're a self-help person and you're this fucking weak willed. Like, I don't need to take any lessons from you, but thanks. Love the font on your shitty website and love the black card art in your house.

35:46Like, I'm not taking your class. Commercials. Here comes one right now. So, Kyle's like, yeah, she's going to, like, have to get thicker skin to be in this group. She goes, you know, I mean, you have boundaries and that's good. She goes, well, I'm going to have to set a goddamn boundary, but that's okay. because it wouldn't be the first time I set a boundary in my life. That's for sure. Amanda, boundary queen. Oh, my God. Write it down, Siri. Write down, boundary queen. Write it down. Manifesting that, this Birkin bitch. I just had a cortisol spike, but like a good kind because it's like creative.

36:22So now upbeat music and Bose and her car show, Bose and her friend, I'm sorry, and her car, they show up at a restaurant. So Bose is there with - What is - Is Michael the only one allowed to have a friend that's a car? Okay. Kit's not the only friendly car. Hello, car. The car is actually just Nico. Nico transforms into a car. He's a car all this time. Nico, get into your car form. Take me to Beverly Hills. Pulling around the car, Bose. I'll be right there. Stay tight.

37:00They should update my rider with Nico playing the car. Nico as Kit. Hey, your car is here. By the way, there's an omelette in the front seat. I don't want an omelette, Nico. Sorry, sorry. Just put it in the back seat. I'll take care of it later.

37:21I like your version of it. You like it? My Bobby McFerrin remix.

37:29God damn, that was a good number. That was a banging number. Now that it's back in my head. It's going to be there the whole episode. There's a banging number. So Boze and her friend come, and it's dark. So they arrive at Cantina Frida, and Boze is like, I love this place. I think it's Mexican, but with like a little mix. I'm like, it's Mexican. Like, you can see around. So Boze is like, Summer is my sister from another mister. We did cheerleading together, and she swam, and I did track. And we would cheer each other on at each other's meets. It was great. and we see a really cute picture of the two of them from 1993 and then Kyle and Dorit show up and everything and Boz is saying how she and Summer have been friends ever since high school and Summer is actually from Oklahoma and she visits Boz in LA once a year and Boz is like yes when I moved to Colorado Springs from Ghana it was a huge culture shock I went from this vibrant sunny spicy culture to landing in a cold place that served hot dogs and had people talking about at a hat store called Kimisabi's.

38:33It was a very stark place, if you know what I mean. She sort of like points at her skin. She points at her skin. It's like, you get it? It was stark. Very stark. I cracked up when she goes, yeah, I got off the plane and a place, hot, sold hot dogs. It's like the disgust, the disgust of a hot dog. It's also so funny in the same week or like where Angel has just been like, ladies, welcome to Colorado. This is the most luxurious, beautiful place in the entire world. And then Bo's is like, it's boring and they sell hot dogs here. Two very different perspectives on the state. There were a lot of Gretchen's.

39:16There were some Annette's, some Gwen's, and definitely a summer. Definitely. Her disdain for Colorado Springs is hilarious.

39:27And you know who over Summer is. It's like she's gathered people around like, oh, my God, I know a real housewife in Beverly. Summer. She's like, damn it. Wow. She really hated you, huh, Summer? OK, well, everybody, the show's over. Let's go home. Let's go home. All right. Well, Summer, here's the treat. This is Summer because everyone shows up and a lot of air. Oh, sorry. I didn't realize this girl was named Summer. There was definitely a summer. This one I liked. Never mind. I take back everything I just said about Summers.

40:02So, Boze is like, Dorit, you should talk to Summer over here. She's been to a tough divorce as well. Look, she's got cutouts on. Always the first sign. I'm sorry, but are there tortas here? Can I have a fish torta? That's sandwich. They're so hard to find anywhere you go. Fish sandwiches.

40:23So Summer's like, I was a stay-at-home mom, and my ex was able to get temporary full custody of our kids for over two years it took to get to trial. So I get it, girl. Did he eat chips in bed? No. You don't understand what it's like, Zuma? Well, her ex is a lawyer. Military. Jag. You, how dare you marry my son? I never approve that. No, Jag, not Jagger. You've married a car.

40:54No, Jack. Oh, the TV show. Congratulations. Oh, no, no. Summer's like, yeah. So I went from seeing my kids all the time to just every weekend, every two weeks. And it literally almost killed me. Oh my God. That's terrible. I'm not going to ask you any more questions. You're too plain.

41:17So Kyle and Doreen, you guys are both going through bad times, right? And Kyle's like, aw. Well, our situations are different. You and Mo are friends, right, Kyle? I mean, luckily, in your situation, when you first saw some pictures of Mo, did it ever cross your mind that you wanted to foil? She's like, um, yeah, I wanted to file a report for more hats from Kemosabe. I love hats, guys. Half summer, you know about hats. You've ever heard about a hat? They're great. You should put one on your head. I can shop anywhere. And Bo's like, well, why didn't you file that if you wanted to? She goes, well, it's like a very, very big decision.

41:54And it's scary. It's not just me. You know, I'm thinking of everybody, you know. And when I was in Aspen recently, I just, I felt invisible. And, you know, then I thought, well, it's time. Maybe you'll see me if I divorce him. But then I come back and it's like, oh, it's easier like this. You know, we're good friends. And I know he loves me and we get along. So you felt invisible to him, Kyle? You felt invisible, Kyle? Are you here? Did Kyle go to the bathroom? I'm right here. Oh, I get where he's coming from. I can't lie. I get where he's coming from. Yeah. So Kyle says that they travel as a family and even though they travel as a family, they have separate rooms and it's all nice.

42:30And they do the activity for the day, yada, yada, yada. But like sometimes she'll like come in to the kitchen for breakfast and he'll be there. And he's like not really paying attention to her because he'll be drinking his coffee and checking his phone. I'm like, yeah, he's on Tinder right now. He's not paying attention to you whatsoever. And I don't think he has been paying attention to you. Have you noticed that anytime Mauricio talks to Kyle, he always looks like he's trying desperately to pass some sort of like eye exam. He's always like, oh, he's always squinting. He's always shocked that she's bringing stuff up on TV.

43:07I think it's like they have some agreement that she's not going to bring stuff up on TV and then she brings it up. And he's always like, oh, he gives her this look like, what are you doing right now, Kyle? Like he did that the whole last season when she's like, um, Mauricio, I'm really hurting this marriage. And be like, uh, he just like, look confused. Like, oh, we just talked 15 minutes ago and you didn't have a problem. And now you do. He's just always completely shocked by everything that she says. I just feel very uncomfortable with tears. Yes. I think that he's, his face always looks like he's about to say, uh, is that a C?

43:42No, it's an F. It's an F. It's an F. It's a C. Uh, He looks like Kathy Hilton playing Wheel of Fortune whenever Kyle starts talking. Like, uh. Yeah, you know, but on the other hand, Kyle, you did leave that man. And now you're like coming into the kitchen and expecting all this adoration at breakfast. Why? You're roommates and the man is swiping his phone. Who doesn't get on their phone and start swiping while they're drinking their coffee first thing in the morning? That's just what life is. I'm not making good eye contact in the morning. I'll tell you that much. and um this is kyle's biggest you know this is her insecurity is being invisible right she was raised in the shadows of kim richards who was a large child star while kyle was on the show about the maid who was a ghost and she has kathy hilton i mean these are facts how dare you she was also on little house kyle was on little house but kim was on a little bit bigger house okay and you have kathy who is like the wealthy one and kyle has been yearning she yearns to be the apex but then when she gets the apex she doesn't know what to do with herself and so she finds someone else to sort of like be with and then she pushes them away i mean this is just it's her cycle so now she is uh this is the worst thing in the world is for her to be to be like invisible and she's feeling that from from uh yeah and i think it's the it's what she you know i think it's what we figured in the beginning was that kyle left mo and she had an affair with this woman did all this stuff and kind of an attempt to get attention from mo and it backfired and he was like oh okay you're leaving me okay i'm gonna date a 20 year old or whatever and she was like wait a minute you're supposed to beg for me you're supposed to be begging okay so you want to come back to the house okay maybe i'll consider letting you come back oh no it's okay i got an apartment what do you even have towels I don't need them what do you mean you don't need towels you know Kyle's just like going she's spinning out because she thought that he was going to be like begging her back and he's really acting like he just finished the last day of school he's like party yeah kimosabi I hang out at kimosabi now for breakfast okay it's just where I go you never know who you're gonna meet I saw Giselle there hey Giselle hey

46:04so boom wait i just want to say something that made show down to earth had 106 episodes are you kidding me are you kidding me i thought that was a one season wonder that is a full-on that is like four years that's a four-year-old tv show that had that could get into syndication i take it all back great work kyle you made it i think that's a year away from syndication right Didn't the rule used to be five years? I think it was five years and 100 episodes. So maybe just short of syndication, which is why it does not remain in our national consciousness. They're like, well, you would have made syndication in two weeks, but you were canceled.

46:43Sorry. But Kim was just delivered a pile of money for no reason. Okay, everybody. Thanks for the work. We'll see you later. Oh, I just got a note for Kyle. It says, Laura Ingalls hates you. Please do not come back to set. Sorry, it's a bad day for you. It's a bad day for you. It's not going so well for the Little House and the Prairie alums at the moment, but, you know, whatever. So Dorit is - What else happened to - Who else is in trouble for Little House? Well, there's the Melissa Gilbert situation with Timothy Busfield. Oh, her husband. Weren't we just talking about Timothy Busfield? Were we?

47:22I don't know. I don't remember. I don't think so. Honestly, I don't know what life is anymore. So Dorit says, can I ask you something, honey? That's when, that's by the way, this is when it's always bad. The combination of honey and then she goes friend to friend. Like, uh-oh. Friend to friend. We can ask. Friend to friend. Friends who enjoy honey to other friends who enjoy honey. Honey friends. Do you think in the back of your mind, the reason why you wouldn't file is because you thought maybe there's a chance the two of you would reconcile? Do you ever think that maybe? Oh, it's me. It's me.

47:58here look at me who said reconcile it's me mauricio right here at dinner and they're like oh my god it's mauricio the mauricio well well look who's here we were just talking about you i was just talking to you in my mind my inner voice i told you maurice i just found fish sandwiches they're called tortoise here ah yes i think i recognize some people here hi ladies hi giselle maricio giselle's not here sorry i'm just kind of it's kind of my thing it's just to walk into places and recognize people now hey everyone this is the end of part one of this recap for part two keep an eye on your podcast feed it is coming up in just a moment thanks so much for listening catch you on the second half Watch what crappens would like to thank its premium sponsors Ain't no thing like Alison King It's always a party on Alison Block Our way is the Amber way It's the Foster and the Furious It's Amanda Foster It's always automatic with Ashley Otto Put your hands together for Carly Clapp Get on the right foot with Chrissy Offutt She's not just a Sheila, she's a Daniela Etchles We never miss her call, it's Diane Call Sunday in the Park with Dylan Clark Big yay, it's Emily Gauthier Erin McNicholas, she don't miss no trick-a-less Hava Nagila Weber You'll never hide from Heidi Eleanor Jones I go, you go, we all go for Hugo Jamie, she has no less name-y Sip some scotch with Jessica Trotch She's our favorite streamer, Caroline Peacock Kristen the Piston Anderson Get a bee in your bonnet with Lacey B K-sura-sura, whatever we'll be with Lauren Sillsby She gets an A from us, it's Lindsay D Let's give a kisserino to Lisa Lino Fresh as a daisy, it's Maisie McHenry Aren't you glad it's Marianne Arns?

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