#3197 Married To Medicine S12E09 + Karen Huger Interview: MiraMarred Intentions and Huger Hubris Part Two

0:21Hi everyone, welcome back. This is part 2 of a two-part recap. If you're wondering where part 1 was, well go check in the feed and be sure to subscribe. so that way you always get your episodes. But enough of that, let's get right back into the episode. The neighbors are gonna know I'm in town. Because she's saying how she gets mad. Her voice gets elevated. Well, I saw the county jail and we don't want to go there because no one mourns the wicked. Am I right? So you got my bail money. And it's like a whole joke about how they always say that. And Simone explains that whenever they go somewhere, they always say you have my bail money.

0:59That's hilarious. You have to be there, guys. But the way Simone says it is like, yeah, we always promise that we'll bail each other out of jail. Jackie doesn't need to be bailed out of jail. You're the one. So then we go back to Contessa and she's like, okay, you need to pick a room, but they're all taken. And Heavenly's like, oh, I'll just sleep with Quad in that balcony room. And so they talk about how they need to go take baths. And Mimi's like, because we still have Dolphin on us. and dolphin cannot arrive with nighttime Mimi. I'm telling you that right now. Daytime dolphin does not work with nighttime Mimi.

1:33Okay. So they're like, okay, we're going to shower. There's also gnats everywhere. There's gnats. That's the other plot is someone brought gnats to the house. I think it was the dolphins. I mean. I think it was the dolphins too. I love a dolphin, but you know that dolphin smell. The gnats are just like, oh, I smell some dolphin. Let's go to that house. Because they're all still covered in dolphin juice, I guess. I mean, I don't know. You know that gnats love dolphin. They're like, oh, yeah. This is why I moved to Miramar. That sweet dolphin access. So then Toya checks in with Simone. And Simone's like, it was good.

2:08It was really good. It was just peaceful. No. Did Heavenly speak to me? I can't understand what you're saying, Toya. You have to speak more clearly, Toya. Okay. I'm assuming you asked if Heavenly talked to me. And the answer is absolutely not. She's like, well, what the hell? Because you just said you don't feel safe here, but you're standing at the house with the person you don't feel comfortable with. What's that about? Well, Toya, since when do people on these shows leave homes because they're uncomfortable? The whole show is built on uncomfortability. But Toya is really just anti-heavenly.

2:47She's just anti no matter what. And so she's mad that she's not staying in it. They're all mad that she's not staying in a hotel. and then Quad is in the room catching Heavenly up and she's like you were the topic of conversation last night now did she push you or not because she said that she said that she did not push you and she goes well she did this let me show you exactly what she did and then she shows her that Simone supposedly bumped her like body bumped her and then like flew her hand at her which didn't flung the hands no it did not happen yeah Simone removed her hand And from Heavenly's hand from her shoulder and walked away.

3:27And I mean, Simone was not happy. So maybe Heavenly took it as an aggressive moment, but it was, she just simply removed the hand. Heavenly's like, well, I took a picture and she was like, this kid, your motherfucking hand of me. And that's what she did. And even if I was upset, like don't do all that. But then I was uncalled for and it was unnecessary and I don't like it. Did she own any part of it? And I was like, well, what I want you to understand is campaign manager to candidate. that she never said she never pushed you. Well, I'm telling you what happened. I mean, you may call it a push, but like you call it whatever you want.

3:59But like the energy was evil for the lack of a better record. Evil Simone, it was on the end. But you know, I was just being a nice girl. And Quad's like, so can you guys be in the same room? And she's like, yeah, but don't, you know, do all of that, whatever you want to call it. So Quad's like, well, this is definitely a different picture than how Simone explained it. They were all there. I don't understand how nobody saw any of this happen. This was a group scene and a group party. And they're all, I mean, look, Heavenly, they were taking a picture, right? They had just gotten into an argument.

4:30Then someone was like, oh, I want to take your picture. So Heavenly gathered to take the picture and came up and put her arm around Simone. Simone removed her arm and said, I don't want to talk to you. And then it became a screaming and yelling match between the both of them. So, yeah, there was no abuse here. But everyone's pretending they didn't see it. so I guess they can just stay out of this fight because nobody wants to be in the middle of this. No, no, they don't. So Simone is with Toya in the room. Simone's like on her laptop in bed and she's like, if I'm going to get out of this bed, what I'm not going to do is sit in the presence of someone who is lying on me.

5:06And Toya's like, well, you know, you have to do it because you know what Eugene says? He says, heavenly is perfect for the candidacy because all she does is lie. High five. So now it's time to check in with the men because let's see what's happening. And so we go to Steve. The real reason everybody watches this show, to see what Eugene thinks about life. Men loafing about. So we go to Steve first and he is watching his kids as they fight. And he's like, oh, wasn't she back? And then here's what I was amused by. We cut to Eugene and he's there with his kids. and they're at some sort of crafting thing where they are like they're doing something with thread with like these guns the threading guns and easels it's like a very crafty moment and i thought it was so funny that like this is what eugene and the boys were doing with toy out of the house they're doing this like little wholesome threading activity that i don't know was it rug making what were they doing ronnie i was so amused by this i have no idea because they were like ropes you know It looked like stapling, like some kind of staple thread.

6:17I mean, I don't know. I kind of wanted to do it. I'll tell you, were they like patterns that they bought? And then they were going over there. They were like making race cars. Because one was pretty good. Like one was a car. Yeah, so I'm guessing there were pre-made patterns. And then the other one was just some kind of shape. I don't know, but I thought it was really funny. It just was like, because I feel like everything we know about Eugene and the boys is that they're all adorable nerds in the best way. Meaning that it seems like Eugene gets the boys together they watch Marvel movies and they play video games together and so it was funny that they just decided to do this analog crafting experience while Toyo was out of town.

6:55Like guys guess what? We're gonna make race cars out of rope. Alright? Get in the car. That's nice. You making your mama rug? It says gather a bitch. That's nice. She's gonna love that. our note taker says it's a rug making place. I wasn't, I just wasn't sure, but they didn't look like rugs, but they like placemats or. I don't know. I'm going to need some, I need some, someone's going to help someone. Please help. Please. I don't know. So, um, he's like, guys, we need to have a very serious talk. You know, I work a lot and you guys need to learn things from me and you're, you're going to learn everything from their mother.

7:30And they just laugh at him. And he's like, yeah, this is what you're learning from me. Rugs. Rugs. Glad I could be here. sending rope into fabric via some sort of weird gun and but the rope was like coming from the ceiling it was like a whole thing it was like a whole elaborate thing i'm so intrigued um so then we go over to cecil with his boys and he's like okay i've been read the riot act by your mother and so now i'm gonna have a father scene where i stand up for your mother so he's like guys you know you need to be nicer to your mother because she supports you i think he's drunk I'm just going to say right now, he's slurring and I think he's drunk.

8:12Not that I really blame him, but I don't think we've ever seen a scene with Cecil without a drink in his hand this season. And he seems drunk right now. Like the last scene, it was in the daytime and he's like sitting in bed with a full like yard of beer in his hand. So I think Cecil's just committing at this point. Yeah. I'm sorry, Ronnie. I figured it out. I think the place I went to was called Tuft House and I just sent you a link. there's a place in los angeles where we can go do this and um it is it is rug making it's a technique called tufting and apparently it's a thing and you go in and you you tuft so there you go everyone anyone who's banging their head on the steering wheel tufting tufting is the is the activity oh and there's even a link for date night guys if you have found your mate this is how to know date night will you join me um i broke him up i broke up with him when he took me to tufting on our first date i feel like i am going to propose this to dom like dom do you want to dom will be like we don't need a random homemade rug which is actually a fair point what do you do with this thing once you make it some i love a rug i've got rugs everywhere i'd love to make a rug although these don't look like the sturdiest drugs they look beyond shitty i don't know that I trust myself.

9:30So Cecil is giving a speech to the boys and he's like, you guys need to appreciate your boys, right? Your mom, because she spends all this money and we want to retire. Like, has she ever told you that this is why she's stressed? Because she wants us to retire? And they're like, no. Okay. Well, glad we had this talk. Do you have any beers in your fridge? Then we go over to Mimi checking in with Steve and he's having a rough day with Stevie. And he didn't get, he, they moved too slow. So he didn't get to regular summer camp. So now he's stuck having daddy camp and he's like, please kill me. This is making me crazy.

10:08I've got the kid at the office. Please, please come back. Come back soon. Anytime soon. And she's like, well, today I went swimming with dolphins. I wish you were there to join me. Would you have done that? He's like, no, no way. So then now it's time for the ladies to all sit down for dinner. and uh she contests is like chef can you introduce yourself and this guy comes out he's like hey my name is chef christopher holbrook i've been chef of the year down here for the past 10 years that's right miramar beaches own celebrity chef chef christopher holbrook okay i call these wu-tang chicken chicken wings because there's so many ingredients in these chicken wings it's like i brought the whole clan and put it in the bowl i was like i don't know if i love this this speech right now i know it's his bit but i don't know i don't know if i love some of the wording in it i like can we can we not do this you're not hungry for clan chicken no that doesn't sound good to you no i felt like this was inappropriate um but i think they all just sort of smiled and were like okay we see you're trying to make a joke here um you can move on yeah please go now i'm sorry i asked your name because he didn't even he wasn't even going to go into the whole spiel he was just like hey y 'all here's some here's some uh appetizers she goes could you just introduce yourself to everybody instead of just dropping off the food and then he went into this monologue so contessa you did this you did this there was and like you just look at this guy and you're like this i just i'm like if if the analogy is i'm naming this after wu-tang because there's so many ingredients it's like i've got a clan of ingredients i mean isn't there like a could you I just feel like there's another pop culture metaphor out there that can sort of convey the same thing without just sounding so off.

12:00Just not the strongest. Yeah. Also, are they spicy, Wu-Tang? I mean, I know they've got a lot of members, but I don't know. There were a lot of questions. There were a lot of questions. Is one of those wings old and dirty? That's what I want to know. It's time for a commercial. It's time for a Crappens commercial

12:26So, um, Quod's like, where are you from? Your accent is ridiculous And he's like, well, I'm actually born in Atlanta And I was on the South I'm a Southside boy You better watch out, I'm gonna get you Southside boy, you better watch it Better watch your step Okay, you can go now, you can go now, sir You can go, you can go, you can go thank you for the food so they just brushed that one off and uh quad's like let's start with a prayer who wants to say grace simone do you want to say a prayer just no not say a prayer

13:11and so like okay thank you toya that was really beautiful Thank you for making this nourishment for our body and taking out all the impurities. You're literally drinking a martini right now. So they're talking about the house. And Contessa's like, am I a good hostess? Do you guys like the house? And they're like, yeah, everything's nice. And so they're not going to make small talk. So Contessa's like, okay, Heavenly, why didn't you get on the plane yesterday? Let's talk about it. And she's like, well, there was a lot going on and I needed to get my headspace together. and it was not, you know, I just didn't want to come with the wrong energy.

13:49No. So is that, so it's not just that you don't want to be in the same plane as Simone, says Contessa. Or the same house, or the same tufting place. Go ahead, say it. I just didn't want any negative energy. That's it, I just want a house of energy. Well, I expressed through the group that you didn't feel safe being around me. No, what I said was I'm done. I'm not coming, okay? and I said that you were very aggressive and I think I used the word unhinged. I was like a lot and I didn't want to come without energy and I said you pushed me and that's the line that happened because you pushed me. You pushed me, Simone.

14:22You pushed me. She's like, I did not push you. She goes, well, I was touched. And she goes, yes, because you touched me and I took your hand. No, she said, you get your motherfucking hands off of me. She's like, no, I was there with movement. There was movement. No, I don't want to have an argument because I was there as well and I felt the energy. And she's like, well, I didn't shove you. You put your arm. She goes, no, you did like this. And then she does like the swing of the arm again. And she goes, no, your arm wasn't there. It was around my neck, by the way. Well, you and I were there. You and I were there.

14:54She goes, and I took it. And I said, get your hands off of me. And so, you know, Simone is making it sound a lot, maybe like very like ginger. But either way, Heavenly is full of shit. Do you think Heavenly is just flat out lying? Or do you think Heavenly remembers it as being more dramatic? I think she just remembers it incorrectly I don't think she's lying She is lying but I don't think that she's intentionally lying I think that in her mind Based on the stuff in her life I think it's like an unexpected movement I don't know I think that somehow she really believes this So somewhere in the middle But it's definitely more towards Simone's side Because Simone's like Well you touched me and then I very gingerly Took your hand and I said please Do not touch me It's like, you definitely took that hand off, but not in a way.

15:45There was no pushing. There was none of that. Yeah, agreed. So, Hamlin's like, no, you didn't do that. You said, get your motherfucking hands off me. That's what you did, Simone. Simone's like, no, I didn't. It's on camera, baby. Well, who wants the footage? And I think you'll see it a little differently. And I think they sort of are looking at the producers to be like, you'll bring out the footage now so we can watch it at the table, right? Right? No one does anything. so um but of course the producers show us the clip yeah they show us again so heavenly is just like no you were fucking unhinged period now heavenly if you came in here without the like physical aggressive component and just said listen you come for me at the beginning of this thing at this party we're supposed to be friends you come up to me with toya who you know hates me and you're like well toya sent me notes from your thing and then you start telling me off about my thing and i'm i don't need to be lectured by you and then you go off on me in public and it was embarrassing and unhinged.

16:38Okay, if she did that, she would have had a different argument. But, you know, Heavenly takes it to this other level, and she's always going off on people in public, so I guess she wouldn't have a leg to stand on with that one either. But, yeah, you can't just say someone beat you in a party, girl. Come on. Yeah. So, Simone is basically like, I'm not gonna eat anymore. I've lost my appetite. And Heavenly's like, well, she was screaming and going all over the place. Did you not see it? Did you guys all not see it? Were you not there? Am I making this up? And Tori's like, oh, I'm gonna get some red wine.

17:07I'm going to go. No, no, everyone, hold on. Hold on. Listen, listen, listen. No, don't leave the table. Don't leave the table. But they're like, no, we're going to go. So Simone goes in one area. Heavenly goes to another area. And they've gone to their own different corners. Yeah. And Simone's like, she's doing exactly what I thought she would. She's a lying, low, down bitch. I understand. But that's what you need to say. That's what you need to say. I want you to come back to the table and very calmly say that she's a lying low down bitch. That's what we need to make this all better. And she's like, no.

17:43So then Heavenly on her side is like, well, I've said everything I can say. You all won't hear today. I like that. Heavenly was like, did anybody see this? This was a group scene. Anybody? And nobody would say anything. Yeah. And Cadessa's like, no, we want to hear you now that you're here. we heard you say your intention was you know just not come and it was not for her to not come and toy's like oh what about ruling her as a physician and making it look like she's aggressive like when you make comments like that that's not good and heavenly's like well she was aggressive she was very aggressive well so are you this is aggressive and mimi's like toy i'm gonna ask you not to interject and toy's like i'm not interjecting i'm asking a question while someone else is talking that's not interjecting that's that's toy ejecting and that's allowed you're the interjector mimi's like um where was this energy yesterday you know when when uh simone got to say her side of the story and heavenly's like oh god don't worry about it tory is just trying to piss me off that's what tory does and she's like well the one question i want answered is if you had an issue with your friend simone why didn't you she goes oh is she my friend is she my friend okay then if that wasn't your friend then why did you put your hands on there in the first place i didn't put my hands on her yes you did but you put your hands on her to take a picture so just say that like i was mad at her but i still wanted to be in the picture so what's the big deal it's yeah it was not putting the hands it was not like capital p putting the hands on this right it was a hey come in let's take a photo together yeah um this is why isn't it the whole thing that keanu reads whenever he takes a picture with someone his hand he always looks like he's has his hands on their shoulders but his hands are always like four inches off of them.

19:25He like just does not touch people because he knows that it can be, he watches married to medicine. He watches married to medicine. Yeah. So I was like, you put your hands on her. It's like, so she just randomly pushed you. She ran up. I pushed you. I'm just like, okay, well she didn't push her and heavenly did not quote unquote, put her hands on her like that. They were taking a photo and Simone was like, I don't want to be in this photo with you. And it was nothing more than that. And it's crazy that it's become such a big thing. Yeah. And so Mimi's like, well, I mean, they were both asked to take a picture.

19:58Yeah. And then she moved the hand off her. And she was like, you know what? I'm going back to my room. Thank you. Thank you. I'm going to my room with the balcony. So Tori's like, well, she just said it's not a friend. And Quad's like, don't yell at me. Like, lick me out of it. So Mimi talks to Heavenly. And she's like, well, you know, we didn't hear Heavenly as we did Simone yesterday. And that's not fair. and heavenly is like yeah you know i don't feel like i deserve this like i don't understand why she's so angry with me and brandy goes well do you understand now that the implications when you use certain words like hostile but it was hostile oh it's like okay so you don't understand so um simone is saying i understand that i also need to give grace like god gives me every day and i am I'm not ready.

20:49I'm not ready. Okay. Well, let me just remind you that no good deed goes unpunished. And what Heavenly needs here right now is the heart of Simone. Can you give her that heart? Please. All anybody needs is the heart of Simone. Take it away, Simone. Take it away. New York, L.A., the Sunset Strip, the heart of rock and roll. Also, Simone. so Simone is like she's not gonna get it she didn't come wanting it and she's not gonna get it

21:26okay I'll do it where's Heavenly so she goes off to go find Heavenly and everything and Quad's like well sometimes we try to speed up people's processes because it's something we want right now but we do have to allow people to kind of take their time I mean even between you and I so I get it. Whoever I'm talking to. Oh, it's just plants. But either way plants were on good page now. And now Jackie is talking to heavenly and she's like, what I need my friend to hear is that I've got two great friends that I love. And as long as you're mine, I'm hurt right now. And Emily's like, but I'm hurt. I'm the one who's hurt.

22:07You have to hear me. Are you willing to just say as a friend, I hurt you. You don't have to go back and say you hurt me you know in a relationship somebody's gonna be the bad person wicked if you will oh i can do it jackie i can do it i can do it i can do it jackie and mimi's like but you're gonna do it from here your heart let me tap tap your heart so you remember exactly what i'm talking about this is oh is that a tin man reference no i get that that's what we know is that a scarecrow i'm so confused i don't know who did what in that movie it's okay you don't have to worry about it just speak from your heart you can do that i mean everyone keeps saying she's going through so much but i'm going through so much too i'm going to a lot i know i don't know so jackie they're getting very emotional because obviously she's talking about the fact that she has no idea where her son is and she's having a strained relationship with him and jackie's jackie senses like breakthrough moments so she's like on her knees and she's like her voice is cracking she's like we're all built different and they're strong people need strong people and there's a divide fine transformation that's taking place inside of you and you need to walk in it.

23:13Stop. Walk in here to find transformation. So you'll talk to her. You'll say you're sorry and mean it from your heart. And I don't want to make light of the fact that you're hurting, Heavenly. Do I not know that knowing where your baby is has got to be one of the most painful things? So you'll talk to her. Yes, Jackie. Thank goodness.

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23:45uh so yeah heavenly agrees to do it so uh quad is like yeah she's hurt too and they're both she's she they're both hurt and they're both trying to be tough oh you gotta hand it to these people i mean the fact that they are on year nine they've been doing this for so long especially these ogs have been doing it for so long they've been having the same fight now for 10 years and they're every time is like the first time like oh my god will simone talk to heavenly will heavenly apologize to simone they're still like so hurt like this has never happened before it really it's it really is true so uh toyot comes in oh heavenly you've got tears i didn't know you had those things inside of you.

24:31And Contessa's like, okay, all these delicate flowers are falling apart in Florida. I love it. I'm such a good host. My hosting dreams have come true. So Jack is like, you gotta say something. Okay, but not right now. Even though you're very emotional and raw, let's save it for tomorrow because otherwise we have nothing to shoot. So we'll go to sleep and you'll put on your bathing suit and tomorrow you'll discuss it. That sounds like a great idea. Yeah, they're like, let's go in the pool. And Contessa says, yeah, let's go in the pool. I have another game. Like, oh, God. Contessa games. Here we go.

25:04And Simone's like, no, I don't want to play a game if I'm not in a good mood, and I don't want to be fake. And Toya's like, I'd not ask you to be fake. Hit her. Hit her. Hit her right there. You're not helping, Toya. And Brandy's like, they don't want to talk. So they decide that they're going to play a game. So Heavenly goes and changes to pajamas, I think. And so now they don't get in their bathing suits. They instead decide not to get in their pajamas and play a balloon game. So this is where they play their balloon game. So she brings out all these inflated balloons and Mimi's like, does she have a helium tank in her room?

25:40Like... Where did they come from? So they all have these balloons and they're going to read questions like who is the person who's like this or who's the person who's like that? And whoever's... It's called Petty Plop. Petty Plop. Petty Plop. Petty Plop. It was a Justin Timberlake song and they are going to pop balloons. So this is, I think this is game number two so far for Contessa. It's like she, she's making up for lost time. She has a whole thing about being a hostess for this trip and she takes it very seriously. And she has loaded up this trip with as many games as possible, much to, much to our chagrin.

26:23Yeah. So they, they read clues and whoever people think it is, they have to pop their balloon. So Brandy goes, this one says, breaks the sound barrier. Pop Simone's balloon. I got one. I have one. It's the first to jump to bat, but as soon as things get heated, plays the victim. And so, Heavenly pops Simone's. And she goes, she goes over there with her pin, and she gets right in Simone's face. She goes, you bitch! Pops it right in her face.

26:53So, Contessa's like, Simone, don't let her get away with that. What do you got, Simone? What do you got, Simone? like it's the only friend not to support her girlfriend's political endeavor that's me so oh no that's her question and so then she pops toyas toyas balloon and everything and then toyas like you know what these balloons they were blocking the view for you bitch anyway whatever okay i've got one dress is the best in the group and toys like well i'm not gonna pop myself i'm like good because i don't know if that's worth the pop there toy but i like that toy is guilty in so many of the questions that she's almost out of balloons she's like well i guess you guys could at least see my beautiful face now um and so treats their friends like their patients and they say me me and then uh never uses her voice to defend her friends even when someone did the wrong and quads like jackie jackie they're talking about you baby they're talking about you toyo pops all of jackie's balloons i love that the women just keep on laughing you know if this through Beverly Hills, it would be like, I just don't understand why she would do that.

27:56I actually am really supportive. And so the fact that she popped my balloon makes me wonder, were we ever friends? Well, yeah, and also the moment where Heavenly and Simone, who were in a huge fight, goes up to Simone's face and pops a balloon right in her face. And Simone just laughs. So Quad's like, those will make enough to have the friend group. And Simone's like, oh, that's Quad.

28:23And so that was fine. Yeah, and Contessa's like, wait, who's gonna help me clean up these balloons? Well, next time think of a better game, because it's gonna be you. Am I helping you, Balloon Queen? No. Yeah. Next day, people wake up and Heavenly Quads are like, Heavenly, what verse do you have today? And Heavenly is like, well, I've been reading the book of Ephesians, and Ephesians tell you who you are. And you're not dealing with people, and dealing with the spirits and the principalities, because you cannot come into this campaign being weak and you cannot come into this campaign being polite and I cannot talk to Jackie this shit because it's got to work if I'm going to be good if I'm going to win this thing for daddy.

29:01So, Quaz, wait a minute, baby. You've got the Bible open. Yes, that's what Ephesians is. So then Contessa is checking everybody and, you know, being a hostess and stuff. And she's like, there are drinks on the table if anybody would like to get a refill. Okay, here's the thing. You ask each other a question. if the person tells you an answer you don't believe, you throw the coffee in their face. Okay? Breakfast game. Contessa literally does rounds here. She comes by to everyone's room on her laptop and is like, what could I be doing better as a host? What do you need? What would make the situation more fun for you?

29:36I'm like, this is a bit much for a vacation. I don't think you actually have to do that. I do not want to have to answer a questionnaire about my experience on this stupid Airbnb Dolphin Miramar Beach situation. So Contessa checks in with Simone and she's like, would you be okay if Heavenly is able to say what she needs to say to the group? And she's like, she can say whatever she wants. She goes, okay. Okay, everyone. Well, we're all out here by the pool and we're chilling. We had a great night. Remember the games? That was so much fun. You're never going to see balloons the same, am I right?

30:06Okay. So let's just let Heavenly get to talk uninterrupted. And when she says, and I'm done, then you guys can ask questions. Okay. don't forget it's when she says and i'm done okay go ahead evilly okay here we go okay all right well can you guys all gather around gather around okay come in closer come in closer this is kind of my thing this year i have people coming closer okay so here we go is everyone ready for my thing and simone's like um are you okay if i take notes i don't give a fuck what you do okay everyone so first and foremost i'm running for a campaign it's very serious for me when i came to the room i thought i had an amazing lunch and so i came off this high end angel's events and then what first year was like oh we have this list for you of shit that you did wrong so she starts going into all the things that like her feeling of like going into this into angel's show and she felt like she was confronted right away it put her in a bad mood and she's like she was like oh my god this is crazy and then in my mind like it was too much and then she says that then Simone touched her and she was like well I can't go on a trip with all you hoes I'm not going so I just extrapolated myself from the group and she says you know I knew the words I needed to use to make it happen basically like she's like I I got myself into this fight so that way I wouldn't have to come on to this trip and she's like and that's why I said that Simone was unhinged and then Toya of course is like can I say something Can I say something?

31:35No, you cannot, Toya. Heavenly's like, yeah, I want to say something. She's like, okay, I'm going to go home then because I don't want this to turn into something bad. And so they're like, oh my god, just let her finish her monologue. And Toya's like, stop egging it all. This bitch is not the... Come on, you guys. And Contessa's like, come on, let's just let her go. And Heavenly's like, why do you gotta be a bitch, Toya? Okay, let's not do that. don't do that Toya and Angel's like can we allow Heavenly to finish please no I'm good I'm good thank you very much so Heavenly gets up and she's like whatever like I can't get to the bottom of this if we've got Toya in the way she's too messy she's always interjecting and I don't want to deal with that so Toya's like oh you're doing too much Heavenly she's the energy's not right here and I don't want to go to that place but you did the energy though you did the energy and Toya just quiet there please my god she never shuts up and she's getting shit-faced again which they point out throughout the episode that tory is just always drinking a lot and tory is like i could do whatever i want it's my vacation yeah but you know like let other people have their own fights you have an f right and the contest is like look tory be quiet because it'll go faster if we don't interrupt well there's no way in the world that you would have thought that we were okay because every single time we got together you're bringing up my husband and you were yelling at me and you were talking about terrible tax losses and mimi's like um excuse me okay um i think we're going on a tangent i'm not devaluing what you're saying toya even though i do think it is incredibly stupid and minimal but i'm not devaluing it because i'm just giving it its actual value which is unnecessary don't need to hear it okay it's i'm giving it full value okay but we're we're getting off topic well you're not acknowledging what i'm saying because you're not in the fight this isn't about you it's not about you and Eugene for Christ's sake.

33:31Yeah. She's like, okay, well, this is not, we're going to deal with those two first. Okay. So Heavenly's like, Simone, Simone, Simone, Simone, Simone, Simone. And while Mimi's trying to settle down Toya, Heavenly goes over to Simone. She's like, Simone, I'm not trying to touch you or anything. I just want you to hear me. Can you hear me? Can you hear me? She's like, last night. Well, I don't think that you do hear me because you're saying I'm on a tangent. You just hear Toya in the background.

33:59Mimi basically gets in the pool to join Toya it's good she sort of occupies Toya dangles some attention to Toya so that way Simone and Heavenly can talk and Simone's like you're saying that I slapped you away and Heavenly's like well I felt like you hit me she's like but that's fine that you felt that way and I felt like I was being violated and when you use that language that is defaming to my character of all the people here I have been close to you and you continue to drag me and I do not feel like you're my friend and she's like but i understand your feelings and i was going through things that i shouldn't have said anything but i never meant to hurt you simone i swear i swear i was wrong i did wrong simone i i was in a bad place and i did wrong and i'm sorry and you gotta believe that when you say we're not friends i hurt my feelings because that's wrong and i consider you a friend i really do simone i really do a very aggressive volatile bitch of a friend i used to believe that before this and now i don't so heavenly's basically saying she's like upset she's telling us that she'd be really upset if their friendship really did end over something like this that was not intentional i'm like well it sounded pretty intentional when you when you declared that you weren't coming on the trip yeah that's an intentional choice i mean it's good that some that she because she changes tactics right she's like okay obviously this is not working tory's not going to shut the fuck up and Simone is not going to give an inch so I'm going to go into plan B which is just profusely apologizing so she completely changes she's contrite but it's also heavenly and we've seen this a million times on the other hand Simone was kind of fucking with heavenly and she was teaming up with Toya and I think what isn't being said here is you've got Toya constantly coming for heavenly and they're all and I'm not saying that that's all Toya's fault because it's heavenly they're pretty equal in that but when she's trying to be friends with simone and tell her all this stuff and then simone teams up with toya to be like oh you're unprofessional and your political career is a joke or whatever in heavenly's mind then that's that's the betrayal but she's not being she's not able to really verbalize that to simone and so she never really gets any kind of point across yeah so simone is like saying that she's shown us year after year like the apology like she can kiss that because it's like we can be cordial we can have fun but i have eyes on you because it's like it's always the same thing from her that's what she's essentially saying and uh she but then she also tells heavenly that there's she's like there's never been a fight that we have not been able to come back from but when you drag me in some shit i'm not fucking with you i swear to god i swear to god i swear to God.

36:38That wasn't my intention, but just take my word for it, please. Take my word for Simone. Yeah, and that's pretty much that. So they're going to kind of make up, but Simone is like, yeah, I don't trust her. So we'll see. Who knows? We'll see. Yeah, fun episode. And we will be back with the season premiere of Below Deck Down Under, and it is already Real Housewives of Salt Lake City time on that show. I thought we'd have a couple weeks before we were right back in the Salt Lake City. Yeah, to get to know the new people, etc. Yeah, I thought I was going to have time to chill from the reunion, you know.

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