#3207 RHOBH S15E08 Part Two: Can’t Have Your Cake and Dorit It Too

0:20Hi everyone, welcome back. This is part 2 of a two-part recap. If you're wondering where part one was, well, go check in the feed and be sure to subscribe. So that way you always get your episodes. But enough of that. Let's get right back into the episode. So it's like, yes, and then you're judged and you shouldn't be breaking. Like, oh, my God, it's going to come back and bite you in the oars. Yeah, but you know what? Fuck you. Yeah, that's what I say. Yes. Fuck you. That's great. Wait, me. What did I do? Wait, what did I do? No, it's just repeating what you said. Oh, okay. Because I was about to break.

0:54And I don't do that often. I'm like, I'm vulnerable. I'm really vulnerable at this, like, little table out by the sidewalk. It's like a lot. Well, then why are we worried about the judgment? God forbid, you actually don't hold together everything every fucking two seconds. Yes. Yes, you don't have to. You don't have to tell me. I know that. I live it. It's what I always allow. You know, it's hard enough to go through a separation, divorce, grief, and hold it together. And I had to put on a brave face for my daughter while I grieved for her father. That's right, Amanda. My card is coming soon. you just wait, talk about your child one more time, I'm gonna bring out the big guns.

1:28But for me, a lot of the outlet was having my friends who would not judge me, who allowed me to cry, who allowed me to scream, and who also gave me the grace to be able to do it in a way that was comfortable for me. So Kyle's like, it's just like one step forward, two steps back. It's like, right now, like, I just can't deal. Like, God, am I DJ SkyCat now? Am I right, guys? So she's saying, like, I'm trying to help my friend, and she's in a negative place, and I just can't do this with Dorit. Like if she's going to act like this and I just can't do it, I need to see her change. And so now the waiters come over with the birthday cakes because let's not forget, this is a double birthday party for Erica and Dorit.

2:07So Jennifer's like, oh, wait, wait, wait. Put it back in the kitchen. Put it back in the kitchen. The girls aren't here yet. And I was like, no, I want to eat. She's like, oh, okay, well, I'll get her. This was so mean. See, this is Dorit's birthday, and Kyle's like, no. She's basically saying she went outside to have a moment, so she doesn't get to be there for her own cake to be, like, for the candles to come out. Like, I just thought that was, like, this is why Kyle's not a girl's girl, you know? Look, she, like, would not make, she would not let the cakes wait for the birthday girl to come back.

2:46Yeah. And so Erica's like, well, I hated this night, to be honest. It was annoying. I was looking cute. So outside Jennifer comes And she's like well hello it's me Your human tortilla warmer Listen this is probably the wrong time But Kyle brought out the cakes And she wants you to come blow out your cake And Rachel's like yeah no I mean I love everybody at the table But no I mean cake's disgusting anyway Who does that You know what I'm doing Today I'm breaking and I'm saying fuck you cake There I said it Yeah. It's like I'm having, I'm already having my own cake. It's a cake of vulnerability. Because I'm like so vulnerable right now.

3:26And I'm like breaking in the cake. I'm a cake breaker. So meanwhile inside they just sing without Dorit in there. And then everybody leaves. Everybody starts leaving. And Rachel's still crying outside. She's like, I wanted a hot girl summer. And I'm not getting it. What we learned later what this really means is. I decided to roll the dice and not spend the summer in the Hamptons or in Europe. I decided to stay here in LA and it's not working out very well for me. I know, I love when she expands on her drama. She's like, oh my god. I'm not in the Hamptons right now. It's really hard. Eating at some restaurant in the valley and crying by the ballet stand, this is not hot girl summer for me.

4:10Where's this grubbin'? So now we go to Dorit's house. It's another day and And she is working on her book and she has her laptop on the sofa in front of her. This is how we know she's not really writing. Because who writes their book by leaning over on their laptop on the sofa? She's like, here's the story of my life. One time I came into the kitchen and there were too few Pringles than what I had remembered. And I thought, gee, that's not going to be a problem. But later on I would realize it was a harbinger. I was having terrible happening in my marriage. It was very like improv, bad improv scene of somebody trying to write.

4:48She's just like sitting with her computer doing this with her hands. It's like, dear, dear people listening, reader, dear reader, it's me, Dorit, or as you might know me, Dorit. I remember as a little girl in Francistan thinking about all the dreams I had of coming to a miracle land. And Dorit, just be quiet. You ain't writing this book. It was like sucks in the city I couldn't help but wonder When we go through a divorce Are we divorcing the man or the man divorcing us Like that's not a very deep thought I knew a man named Mr. Big I tried to make him Mr. Les Big But he wouldn't let go of the jeeps Now we just call him Mr.

5:34Diabetes He broke up with me on a post-it A post-it diabetes It was very terrible

5:45So then we go to Bo's house And her daughter is getting her driver's license Or she just got it So they're all wearing t-shirts The family is there Family and friends They've all got t-shirts with a driver's license on it And they're like oh my god You guess what You get a t-shirt And you also get a Maserati So she's gotten her first car for her kid $110 ,000 Holy shit Lael sounds like a great kid. Lael is probably one of the best kids on this show right now, let's be honest. But we start our children off with a Honda Civic, okay? What is going on with this Maserati? Okay, this$110 ,000 Maserati.

6:27You need the equivalent of a bumper car for your child's first car. I don't care how responsible your child is, that car needs to be able to be wrecked, okay? $110 ,000? Oh, my God. Good luck getting an oil change on that thing. The first time she makes a right turn on to Melrose, there is going to be a ding and a dent. I'm going to say that right now. You're going to go get your oil change. It's going to cost you an arm and a leg, literally. Literally. Okay. Speaking of legs, Amanda is at home on a Pilates machine, and her kids keep wandering up to her. She's like, hi, sweet thing. Hi, Kenan.

7:05Hi. I'm doing, Mom is doing Pilates. Hi, sweet thing. I was like, oh my God, get me away from this lady right now. So then we show up at a horror movie set. I'm not really sure what this place is supposed to be, but it's a wedding venue for Kyle's kid. Yikes. It's, what are you guys doing? I would not want to go there. It looks scary. It's felt very rustic. In fact, Kyle says, oh my God, this is super rustic. So Kyle and Jen, who's like her friend or assistant, come up. Her friend, if you will. friend ploy to meet this lady chloe who is like a creative director and the and there's nicole who's a wedding planner and chloe's like welcome it's a special place we're just saying you don't even feel like you're in la at all i mean who wants to be in la right just full of disgusting fake stupid people clinging on to their childhood successes of being on stupid shows like little house in the prairie am i right and carl's like um uh okay that's what she loves about it though So, well, the scenery is beautiful.

8:05It's like at the top of the hills. I mean, it's very gorgeous around there. But the actual place is like this rustic kind of cabin thing. And then they go inside and there's just like scarves thrown over things as decorate, you know, like hippie scarves thrown. What is this place? How could you be looking at the China you were looking at and then having this be the wedding place? This looks like a Manson. Speaking of cults, this looks like a Manson family set. Like, don't get out, run. Yeah. So Kyle's like, well, she was going to get married in Aspen, but it was like too complicated for a multitude of reasons.

8:42Basically, Bravo was like, we're not going to pay to move everyone there to film the wedding. So she wanted something with this vibe. So, you know, rustic and ranch vibes kind of like, I guess what's the word I would use? Poor, poor vibes. So like that you did a really good job with that. And Chloe's like, we have alpacas. Oh, great. Multiple animals shitting. That's great. That's great for a wedding. pooping alpacas. Don't they spit at you too? Although I love an alpaca. I'll say I do love an alpaca, but I love more a home goods alpaca, you know, like the stuffed ones or the statue ones or the lamps, the lamp.

9:15I think the real ones, they spit at you or something. They do. I have a picture of one spitting at my friend, Jane. Uh, basically, um, I went with, uh, Michelle Collins, Michelle Collins and I, and Jane, we went up to my friend's place and my friend had had like a little alpaca farm and so i took a picture with the alpaca and then michelle took a picture of the alpaca and i'm like jane take a picture of the alpaca and jane was like i don't want to take a picture of the alpaca like go take a picture so jane's like okay fine so jane went up to the alpaca and just as i snapped the picture of the alpaca spat in her face and you literally see her hair being blown back it was like i got the exact shot of jane getting spat on by the alpaca in her face.

9:59Well, may Kyle be so lucky to get that picture at this wedding. It's time for a commercial. It's time for a Crappens commercial. So they're kind of looking at it, and the daughter comes. Alexia comes. It's like, hey, mom, that's a play. It's a really cool play. And they're making fun of her for sending her invites out via paperless post. And Kyle's like, oh, my God, Kathy won't even know what that is. like she's not even gonna see the invitation yeah that's crazy so I guess he walks up Bravo's favorite what's the equivalent of like a photo bomber but like with TV shows TV bomber teeth bomber Mauricio this is not gonna be the last time you'll see me here on Bravo today get ready for the valley Persian style oh my god this is amazing I love it oh we're gonna be partying all night in this room it's just gonna be me with a bunch of bracelets and a necklace and an earring DJing and hanging out with hot girls right guys hey guess what I've got news not only am I going to be on Bravo 18 times this week but I'm a DJ now so line up ladies line up get ready I love DJing yeah well now dad's taking DJ lessons so that's great he's taking DJ lessons I can't I didn't even know DJ lessons were a thing don't you have a YouTube God.

11:22DJ lessons in LA must just be a bunch of 50 year old dudes with really bright teeth. Like yeah. Hey, match that beat baby. Yeah. I love to hear some Rob Thomas and Santana guys. Here we go. I want to do some Buffet but mix with Charlie X whatever. Let's do it. Here's some Trio Lipa along with a remix of Dave Matthews. So get ready, everyone. Ants Marching. Remix. Mauricio Remix. So it's really awkward. And he's like, well, you know, I'm a guy. I've got some time on my hands. So I was like, why not take up a new hobby? You know, I was taking up new hobbies last year, but they were all so young that Kyle got mad at me for dating them.

12:12So what are you going to do? I was like, we already have enough rumors about you going through midlife crisis. Do you have to add fuel to the fire? I mean, his DJ name is going to be Momentum. And she laughs, but I'm like, is she making fun of him? Or is he really going to be called Momentum? I know. I believe it. I know. I actually believe it. Yeah. So they look at the venue. I really don't care about this wedding. So I'm going to skip through it. So if there's anything you want to talk about, go for it. I'll support you. Nope. Just that Mauricio was there. That was it. Mauricio's the DJ. I think we extracted the juice from that fruit.

12:48Okay, so we're at Kathy's house now, and Kathy is, good Lord, I mean, she's being waxed over. She's being immoliated. She's getting all the fluids sucked out of her and re-put back in with other fluids. Her face looks complete. I don't know if it's been scrubbed. I don't know. It's very smooth. Her lips are pulled so far back that she looks crazy. And the little, these little frown line things are going like this. They're making like a mustache. And I'm just saying all that to point out that I fucking love this woman. And she needs to always stay on the TV. I know. She's great. So Rachel comes over.

13:31She's like, honey, I'm home and I'm vulnerable. And Kathy's like, oh my God, are you going to get a drip or a shot? No, I'll do a shot. Like I don't do drips. I don't have good veins. My veins broke. They're just broke. My veins are crying right now. Now, Kathy's like a very unique person. In some ways, she like reminds me of my mother. It's just as sweet and supportive. Like I can't, like I can't. Like I remember a dinner party being like, where's Kathy? And she was like on the table. And like one of the girls was like, she's at the caviar. Remember like a few days ago, she like ate the caviar that I put out.

14:03Like, was that like not the most funniest story? Like, oh my God, wait, hold on. Let me call my son. Hey Kai, Kathy Hilton came over. I put out caviar and then she ate it. I know, hilarious. She got a little bit on her dress. I mean, icon. Like, would anyone but Kathy Hilton get caviar on the dress? Like, seriously. Dead. I'm deader than that fish egg. So dead. And then, like, we served dinner afterwards, and she's like, I can't even eat dinner because I ate so much caviar. I was like, iconic. Dead. Hilarious. So Kathy's like, I was really worried about you the other night. Yeah, it was interesting.

14:38Like, basically, I saw Page Six. I saw US Weekly. I was even on Netflix. like I turned on Netflix and they were like have you watched Rachel Zoe getting divorced I mean what the fuck Kathy like I can't look what's happening like in my mind I'm like I'm doing this as meditation Kathy intentionally intentionality quietly like so it doesn't happen and my kids don't have to hear I mean even though my kids wake up and I'm like good morning kids your father fucking sucks get out of bed I just don't want Caius and Sky to find out I'm like really upset. So then the nurse comes in to administer shots and everything, which is, sorry, sorry, I just have bad vans.

15:17Bad vans. Just pass it along. Just let everyone know. Richelzell's got bad vans. We're doing Niagin today. Niagin IV. I have to look that up. What does that do? I don't know, because I can't get it. It's got bad vans. But honestly, Kathy, while Ronnie looks this up, let me tell you something. I just was, like, not myself to begin with. And then I was, like, down at the end at the table, like with the stupid people, you know? And like, that was weird. And Dorit's like getting judged for breaking up this group. And I think it was just like a breaking point for me because I need to know that I'm like not being judged because I can't be judged.

15:51You know, some people have judged me for my bad veins. It's bananas. I like have no veins, like seriously. I don't even know if I have any blood. So I don't want to be judged. And Kathy's like, I think what I'm hearing is that you want some support. It's like, yeah. I want support. So what I'm saying is like, guys, you judging me? Are you judging me right now? Like, am I not safe to speak freely here? Nothing had to do with you, Rachel. None of this had to do with you. And she's on like her second day now. She's like, I cannot. These bitches are judging me, Kathy. I don't think it's that we don't want or value other people's opinions.

16:28I just think everyone in this group, whether they agree or not with how she's handling it, they just need to be like here and they just need to hold her and cheer for her. I wish I could do that, but I have bad veins, which means my arms basically don't work. They're just like two floppy ropes. Kathy, like, what I'm saying is, like, I really miss my family right now. It's like, you want to borrow Kim? No, please. Hey, you're my name. Hey, Rachel. Do you know, sometimes I get in the car and Carly Simon comes on and I just weep because when she says you're so vain, I'm like, no. I have bad veins.

17:04Hey, why is the coat rack talking about Carly Simon? All right, Kim, go back to your box. She doesn't want to. I'll tell you what's coming around again, Michael Myers. See you in the next Halloween. Oh, wow. Didn't even understand that. You know, Kathy, maybe you'll understand. You know, I'm always in the Hamptons all summer and in Europe. In the Hamptons and Europe at the same time. Half of me is in one place, half is in the other. It's somehow an optical illusion. My body is in the Hamptons, but my veins are in Europe. but like obviously working on like in la this summer and by working and shooting this tv show with stupid people it's just like new for me like it's weird like it just feels like everyone left and i'm just stuck here and like the lame table and i'm just like i'm broken breaking in la do you think it's affecting your mental health because it is like actually like i need to like laugh i mean that's what you do in the hamptons i need to like be in the hamptons i need to like laugh and you know like i mean i know and have a hot girl summer yeah i mean look it's not the south of france but like it's as close as we're gonna get right now and like meanwhile like what are we doing here it's like the street that has no names like people are even here in the summer like this is crazy i feel like i'm in purgatory kathy help me did you know there's like a thing called the hollywood bowl and it happens like all night during the summer and there's like traffic like it's crazy this city in the summer i've never even seen it before i'm not i mean we bowl here in the summer i can't why is everyone lining up to go bowling in hollywood silly so then we go to boz's and um we have ben's favorite what's happening with ivf guys so boz is doing her scene we just saw this on married to medicine with quad and um she's doing her scene where she finds out how many eggs she got how many eggs built houses or whatever it's called and And the eggs did not build houses, which is really sad.

18:56This really bugs me, though, this storyline. And it's because I really like Bo's a lot. And I hate her saying things like she said here where she's like, but what about Keely? How am I going to keep Keely? I just it bugs me. That's that's my thing. Like it really I hate that there's the sense of like, oh, if I can't provide a baby for Keely, like, where do we go from here? I was like, no, no. Like, that's OK. Like, you know, obviously you want to have this idea of what you want to have for your future. But like if he can't love you without a baby, then maybe. I think it's fair for somebody to want a baby.

19:35You know, like if Keely wants a baby, that's totally fair. But don't date a 50 year old person and then pressure them into having a baby or you're out of there. Fuck you. You waited forever, too. It's not like you, you know, it's not like you made this decision in the right time either. So fuck off. And I don't like seeing her talk like that, you know, getting so almost insecure. And I also don't like the whole I'm having a baby for a man kind of thing. Like, this will fix it. It just it's giving me icky vibes. Well, I don't think there's anything wrong where, like, if you love someone and you know this is something that would make them happy, that you want to do something because you love, you know, that's I think actually one of the weird things about love is that you actually want to do things for other people, you know.

20:17but what I don't like is the doubt that like if I can't do this then like you know what might happen it's like that should not be the issue here and that that's that to me is very sad well I think having kids you know and she I guess she wants to have kids too I guess but it just seems like she wants to have kids for the guy and I just I want that's how it's better for her yeah it's coming off that way maybe there's maybe she can clarify on the reunion or something but it's coming off like like she's doing it purely for him and that if she doesn't do it for him then their relationship may not survive and i think that's that's shitty but now we go over to jade in pevly hills well it didn't work by the way it didn't it the baby the uh eggs weren't i don't know what they call it they weren't like they didn't yeah they weren't viable and so she's like well you know um she cries and which is heartbreaking and then she's like you know I mean I'm almost 50 and we've got to think about kind of the reality of this you know and I don't know that I'm really ready to go and he's like oh no let's talk about that later as we go through the process again okay we're going to be going through round two and I just didn't like that like I don't like it I'm like stop yeah we'll think about it while you're going through the next round that's his answer it's like taking a toll on her emotionally and physically it's a lot and she's gonna do all the she has to do all the hard work here he has to just sit there yeah so uh now we go to this restaurant where um rachel and sutton and dorit arrive and rachel's like guys do i look like i slept one hour because i did i slept one hour i kept getting woken up in the middle of the night with my veins they were they were trying to fight someone because They're bad.

22:04They're bad fans. No, you don't. First of all, where did you go? And Sutton's like, oh, she's telling Sutton, like, where did you go, Sutton? And Sutton goes, where did I go? What are you talking about? And then we see a flashback of Dorit saying, well, I've heard it said behind your back. You're judging me. And she says, you know, Sutton's the one who told me Amanda was talking behind my back. And she's the one that started the shit show. And then she didn't even say anything at the dinner. And Sutton's like, well, you know what? But, like, let me tell you what she said about you. She's concerned that you're talking too much about the divorce and that it might come back to bite you.

22:42So Dorit's like, but instead of calling Amanda out for lying, she was radio silent. And, you know, Sutton's like, but you're very strong and you fight your own battles well. And honestly, I was just trying to count to 135 before I got my next beverage, okay? So I really wasn't listening to what anyone else was saying. Yes, but I didn't want you to fight my battles. Not at all, son. Not at all. Which I'm saying to your face when behind your back, I'm saying she should have fought me battles. And Rachel's like, right, right. Well, she had an opinion and she said her opinion. And that's that. And so then we see a flashback to the, you know, did she say he's a raging alcoholic or didn't she?

23:29and Amanda's saying, well, I mean, if it's true, she can say that. She goes, but maybe you shouldn't say that about the father of your children. Well, I thought that that was clear that she had an opinion. Well, was it a loud and strong opinion? Because she basically is playing down like, Dorit, you're taking this too far. This was nothing though. This was like a nothing thought. Yeah, well, she had her own opinion about it because they were talking about Amanda, obviously, Amanda and Kyle. And Rachel's like, yeah, but I have to say, it was pretty fucking ballsy to punt it to Kyle last night. I'm like, it wasn't that ballsy.

24:02It was like a pretty, pretty obvious thing to do. I think that's like what you do. Like when you're taking, you're taking, getting shit for stuff that style Kyle started. So, I mean, like Kyle do with it. Yeah. I mean, I think it was pretty ballsy to like, kind of go against Kyle and be like, Kyle did it. That's your only friend on the show. And Rachel's like, well, I mean like when you do not own something, like all it does is enrage the other person and what i'm gonna do this is where she says like what i would do is just say sorry i don't know you and i should have kept my thoughts to myself and then boom it's done mm-hmm son's like i agree i cannot stand when people do not own things like do you know there are people that lease their houses instead of buy their houses disgusting no that's not what that means son okay it's different if someone owns it and apologize it's like great fine okay because you took it on the chin where do you go from there let's like literally nowhere you can go.

24:53It's like you're trying to go somewhere. It's like walls, walls everywhere because there's nowhere left to go because you've been like, you own it now and now you're trapped, trapped in walls and you're broken and you realize the walls are your closet and there's Chanel and then you're happy. It's great. Commercials. Here comes one right now.

25:15Meanwhile, Kyle and Amanda are hiking at Tree People and this looks scary. Have you ever gone hiking here? no, I have not. I'm not hiked. I was looking at that. I was like, I was like, where is this place? I think they've gone here on the show several times though. It looks terrifying. It's like you, you're on this path, but then on both sides of you, it's just a very steep drop. You know, it's like, there's only the road. And I got scary because I'm a clumsy person. So safe, Ronnie. That was scary. Of course I would never get that high anyway. Who are we kidding? So, um, you know, They're talking about the perfect weather and Carl's like, oh, yeah, and you did really a beautiful job on the house, by the way.

25:57That's why I sobbed in the other room and cried that you turned Portia's desk into a bar. Great job. Yeah, the way you got rid of my iconic checkerboard floor that I sold from Kris Jenner and my sister, like, that was really great. Like, I'm totally happy. I'm really happy right now. It's really wonderful. Samantha's like, yeah, because my life is so peaceful. Like with my family, these friendships are the only thing that's like not really peaceful right now. I generally believe that Dorit and I could easily clear the air around this. But now I don't know what the fuck to think. Like she doesn't want resolve.

26:29She doesn't want to understand. She doesn't want to see where each other's coming from. She doesn't want to know about how I woke up every 30 minutes with my heart beating fast because I was having a physiological reaction to the way she was accosting me at a dinner party, which I'd never experienced before in my life. And Kyle's like, yeah, I was annoyed with that whole thing. You know, Amanda's not, she didn't show up for the second half of the after show filming. Because you know how they film one chunk of it and then they film another chunk in the second half of the season. She just stopped showing up.

26:57So they replaced her, which is a sign. You know, everyone's like, who did she quit? Did she quit mid-season? Nobody knows. But Kyle's like, yeah, that was stressful. I was annoyed. And she's like, yeah, the energy she was directing at me. Like she switched it to you and then switched it back to me. I mean, that's like nuts. well my frustration with dorit is like boz could say the exact same thing that i said and she would have a completely different reaction than she does if i say it and we do see a flashback of kyle being like you know saying about the florida thing like just go to florida and like you'll deal with it and then dorit's like you don't understand and then boz is like well go to florida and then you'll deal with it thank you no because the difference was kyle was like if he wants to go to florida and stay in a hotel then he can do that you know and then your kids can go with the parents or whatever.

27:44And Dorit got mad and Bo said, no, let him do whatever he wants, but make him, if he doesn't want to let the kids go to Florida, then make him be the bearer of bad news. So her point was like, you don't have to be the bad guy in this. You do whatever you want to. Don't tell the kids anything. And if someone is going to disappoint the kids, let it be PK. Well, either way, even if they did say the exact same thing, it would be totally justified for Dorit to be okay with what Boz says because Boz is coming from a place of like genuine support and so it's in the larger context of that relationship whereas with Kyle you don't really know if she's supporting and it's just like you're going to be on edge because Kyle has squandered whatever social capital she has with Dorit and so therefore everything's going to be taken with a grain of salt with her.

28:32Amanda's saying I mean you told me you experienced him as a good father so like I could see how you'd be conflicted. Yeah well she's not the wife in that relationship. So what the fuck does she know? You've experienced him as a good father. Did PK raise Kyle? Yeah. Well, regardless of what I know or don't know and all that, like I still stand by the fact that it's smart just to not put the stuff out there, which I think like she's so angry. She like just doesn't even care because to read is completely blindsided to any help or advice that I want to offer her as a friend right now. And I don't know if there's a way to get back on track until she's in a better place.

29:05And I don't think she's open to that. And I think she's too angry right now with everything so kyle is casting dorit as the unreasonable angry hysterical person and dorit is angry for sure but kyle also is just completely taking like her responsibility of the responsibility she's taking her own responsibility of the situation out of the situation not even making any sense but the point is that like kyle's acting like this is just all on dorit like she's just crazy and not not reasonable when it's more like kyle you're you're basically rendezvousing with the other side and it's making to read furious and you just don't even see what your role is in this entire situation it's amanda doesn't either because she's like oh my god we had so much fun talking about empowerment at lunch and now she doesn't like me like what the hell so then we go back to the other lunch and to read it's like all i've heard about is her business i've heard i haven't heard anything about her past her bringing her coat i would like to know more about that this cult okay that sounds fun and rachel's like yeah that was insane i just want you to know i was not armed for that like i was armed for fashion but not armed for cults which is really it's when i say i'm not armed for something it means a lot to me because i've got bad veins in those arms okay yeah i wasn't armed for it and i'm basically an arm with a head on top of it still it's not armed well it's okay to talk about it's on our website so we can gossip away you guys you guys like am i an idiot like isn't a cult something that you don't like actually want to say that you're a part of like who brags about that on a blog like what she's like ew gross you're in a cult who brags about don't talk about that gross culty person you dirty post cult gross i think maybe she survived the cult and so she's trying to say like look i survived the cult So maybe that's it.

30:55Doreen's like, well, she claims to be very open and transparent. Yeah, that's why she wrote about the cult in the blog. But the term cult, like, think about it. Just say it. Cult. Cult. It's gross. It's really just like two letters away down the alphabet from being a very offensive word. Isn't that what, like, grows in old milk? Ew. Ew. And who talks about milk these days? This is nothing. So not into dairy. It's gross. Daryl cult. and said like yeah it's not a good thing cult look i just said it sounded like a curse word and dream's like well something is amiss and i would like to know and understand the mundo because it's not what you see it's what you eat at the end of the day you get nothing for nothing at the end of the day you get arms for arms and that's what they say for the life of the armless that's it ew cults just thought about it again this is a process of gonna like this process of gonna roll out like who she really is and I think like we have the right to ask those questions like let's see who the fuck she is like here's a question have you ever left LA in the summer do you voluntarily stay here in the summer if you don't have to shoot a show are you gross like that is LA your cult ew gross get away what do you think that we can do to make her feel more open and tell us stuff like how'd she end up in a cult cult and had you escape from the cult because i'd like to know that listen it's boring being sober i need something to watch okay i can do that i can i can tell her i have no issues with that i'm like really good about like broaching cult stuff even though i think it's so gross okay but how do we make her feel more included without actually like including her because i don't want to go to lunch with her or anything but i want her to feel included how do we do that gross no i don't want to include her like hold on one second i'm having allergic reaction to like including her and her cult yeah so she's like well i do want the story of your business because that's exciting like yourself made great awesome but like that could be a deflection like maybe she identifies herself as her business and that's really bad because like people have businesses but then like sometimes like their business is their whole personality i'm like your business is called rachel zo and it's i'm like literally called the rachel zo project like literally um let's go back to us talking guys the real friends so amanda say something all i can do is share my truth right like i thought i was vulnerable and authentic for me to say that i've never left the dinner party crying before like isn't that the most vulnerable thing you could say is that you've never cried at a dinner party no it was accusatory no it was vulnerable you know like some people share really vulnerable parts about their childhood for me it was sharing that I'd never left a party crying before that was like deep and like honestly brave of me to share that and I woke up throughout the night did you hear about this my heart was beating every 30 seconds I was like turns out I was just blinking but those blinks were like micro naps and I was heart racing all throughout them yeah and like it's like she's trying to dig up dirt on me but like there's no dirt because it's like a cult like I'm not hiding that like why would I hide anything in my life it's on my blog and Kyle's like um yeah you need to tell me about the cult at some point.

34:12That would be fun. Okay, well, you want to talk about it right now? No. Okay, so, you know, like, looking at Amanda, like, she doesn't exactly like, scream cult member, but, I mean, I don't get what Dorit's trying to come for Amanda for. Like, what does she gain from this? Kyle, what do you gain from being friends with Amanda, you dummy? Like, that's the point you've gotten yourself to on the show, where you're only friends with the person that everyone hates. For good reason, you don't like her either. Amanda does not speak does not scream cult member, but she does sort of scream cult leader.

34:45I don't know. So Kyle is like, yeah, it's crazy. So Amanda's like, but to her, this isn't a bad version of herself. This is open and honest. The Regis feels open and honest right now. So back to the restaurant. I need to be able to be open and honest. I need support from my friends right now. I'm in a place where I don't want to hold it inside. And then I have to go through this without the support. And Rachel's like, it's so poisonous. It's like poison. Well, I came to this year and I really believed that me and Coyle were going to rebuild our friendship. But her actions and her words are telling me something totally different.

35:21And trust me, I know words now. I'm an author. You might have seen the garden scene earlier today where I said, dear diary, and talked to my readers. Now, until she starts showing up As an actual friend Who supports me I cannot continue to play this game A fake fucking thing, didn't I? I'm doomed, I'm doomed I have protected Coyle For years I have protected Coyle at all costs Even when I felt the most betrayed The most hurt Where her and I had no friendship Or whatsoever I still protected her I bought her a helmet I went to Dick's Sporting Good Got her a helmet And I said Do you have one that has the size of someone who has a very stupid looking head and they got it for her and I brought it to her so she's protected.

36:05That's what I did for her. Well, I don't think that you think that she thinks that she's like protecting you. So like, I don't you just don't trust her. You just don't. Like, you don't trust her. It's like me, not really trusting arms. Like, arms have vans. Vans are bad. Vans are in cults. And that's how we end the episode. so fun and funny thank you all for being here do go vote for the crappies come join us in person virtually whatever you want to do sign up on patreon do all the things and we'll catch you on the next episode bye everyone bye watch what crappins would like to thank it's premium sponsors ain't no thing like alison king it's always a party on alison block our way is the amber way It's the Foster and the Furious.

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