#3218 RHOP S10E17 Part 1: Reunion 1 - Don’t Be Jailous

0:21Hello and welcome to Watch What Crabbens. I'm Ronnie and that's Ben over there. Hello Ben. Hi, how's it going? I'm doing okay. It was really rough. I'm going through the worst time in my life right now. Dr. Wendy. Dr. Wendy's post-prison scene. I can't. Everybody, welcome to Real Housewives of Potomac Day. If you want this as a video recap, that's on our Patreon, as well as ad-free listening bonus episodes on the traders and our newsletter. The newsletter is free every week. Also, tonight is crappy hour. We're having guest Elizabeth Day from the How to Fail pod. She's amazing, hilarious, and British.

1:01So really smart. Really smart, at least sounding. So she is going to be with us tonight at 530 Pacific time, which is every other Monday. We're also going to do a special crappy hour next week, next weekend, live in Florida at the South Beach Food and Wine Festival. Why did they ask us to do that? We don't know, but we're so excited that we get to go do it. They're having a podcast day on the 21st. And we're going to be one of the podcasts. So come see us. It's like 2.15 p.m., okay? That's it. You can watch us pig out on things. So it's going to be super fun. And then, of course, the Golden Crappies, which has just sold out.

1:39So that's sold out. But what's not sold out on February 27th are live streaming tickets. So go grab your live streaming tickets over at WatchWhatCrappens.com and join us for the fun. Now, two things. one is that um the replay of the show is gonna be available for two weeks afterwards so like you'll have time if you can't like get into your seat uh for the live live moments you can still watch it the next day or whatever especially if you're on the east coast and that's late for you um and second of all the nominations just came out this morning they were just finally you guys voted for about two weeks and uh we took the top um the top of each category and those are the nominees is there were some nominees that were separated by like literally seven votes.

2:24So if it seemed like it, basically it was within 30 or 40 votes, we called that a tie and put it up there. So some categories, most of them have five nominees. Some have six. Some go even higher. But just a sneak preview of what is on the ballot, which you can get at watchacrappens.com or it's the link in our bio for any social media. So we have announced today who is nominated for best Bravo show of the year. That's Real Housewives of Salt Lake City, Real Housewives of Miami, The Valley, Next Gen New York City, Summer House and Married to Medicine. Wow. This was wild. I was so surprised that Next Gen New York City snuck up in there.

3:08It was like over some other really big behemoths. so that was a really cool category to see and married medicine too i mean married to medicine is not always on that list so it was cool to see people come out and vote for that yes you know married to medicine still going strong 10 years still going strong 12 years in whatever how many ever years in decade in they're still decade yeah i think it's 12 years i think it's 12 years at this point um some other ones bravo liberty of the year jennifer tilly stacy Rush, Paige DeSorbo, Kristen Doty, Gabby Windy, technically not a Bravo Liberty, but we all loved her on the traders from last season and Zach Wickham from the Valley and Rob Roush from the traders.

3:49I can't believe Rob made it in there, but he was right up in the mix there. So that's going to be a real interesting category. And then the fun thing is, and then we have a ton, We're not going through every category, but notably, we added in two more categories after round one finished. Because why not? It's our show. We decided we wanted to. So the first new category that you can vote on is Best Travel Drama. So here are the nominees on Best Travel Drama. Stephanie oversees private plane logistics on Miami. Meredith Marks has unconfirmed emotional reaction on flight while watching Crazy Rich Asians, Salt Lake City.

4:28the season finale roaming around in Colorado, Potomac Lisa Hoxian arrives two hours late to a sprinter van and finally Kristen Doty acting chaotically while Luke tried to propose to her on a boat that is best travel drama and what's the other one we're going to talk about? the other new one is Most Slanders you want to read those nominees? Most Slanders Adriana accuses Marisol of having dry wrinkly knees on Real Housewives of Miami I mean, Lisa Barlow accuses Bronwyn of sucking gout-afflicted dick on Salt Lake City. Also Salt Lake City, Lisa Barlow claims Todd farts while making out with a friend.

5:06The former fatty drama on Real Housewives of Orange County. And Giselle accusing Angel of being a catfish on this year's show, Real Housewives of Patomia. So lots of crazy stuff. And of course, I ran numbers because I like to act like this is a real, real award show. Real Housewives of Salt Lake City earned 15 nominations. The Valley had 11. Miami had 10. Summer House got nine. And Next Gen, New York City had eight. And it goes on from there. But those are the top five vote getters. And in terms of individuals, the person who had the most nominations was Adriana DeMora. She got five nominations.

5:48But she actually did not get nominated for Bravo Liberty of the Year, for which she was a contender in round one. but she wound up with, uh, with five and then with number, with four nominations, Lisa Barlow and three Zach Wickham. So, and everyone else had like one or two. So there you go. Yeah. There you go. Wow. Something to be proud of. You're a real train wreck. If you lead in nominations on this show, that's for sure. Seriously. Well, Haitian mortician really earned Adriana. That sort of wound up in a lot of different categories. So she, uh, and it was a combination of Haitian morticians and Marisol's dry wrinkly knees.

6:23She was just sort of in the mix of some really amazing fights this year yeah um and always every year and she always kind of gets the shaft anyway so it's fitting that she has the most nominations but doesn't get bravo liberty of the year it's just it's just how it rolls guys life it's not fair is it um but go vote um you can find the links at watch what crappens.com everybody all right so today big episode of potomac you know i felt like potomac had been gone a long time because they They were off last week. And then before that, we just got the Karen interview one. So it's been a minute. And I miss them.

6:57And it was so good to have them back for their reunion part one. Well, they got lost. They were still driving around in Colorado. So we needed a few weeks before we could get the reunion ready. Yeah. They were still trying to find somewhere to clean their butts or whatever they keep saying on this show. But, yeah, it's reunion part one. And we opened with a dun-dun-dun. Birds tweeting. But like cawing, you know, it's like, oh, it's like sad bird cause and deer just hiding, you know, the deer like, oh, and it's Potomac in a dramatic time because Wendy and Eddie have been arrested. Yes, and we see a whole montage, which the montage doesn't really say what it's about, but it's basically stating, oh, here in 2020, we meet Dr.

7:45Wendy. And back then she was very concerned about being known as Dr. Wendy. You call me Dr. Wendy. I have four degrees. I have four degrees. I'm Dr. Wendy to you. But then it's like 2021 new boobs and she cares about glamour and money and things like this. And she's being corrupted. And that's basically what this montage is showing of like she came in as an academic and now fast forward to 2025 and she has gone to jail. Yeah, they wanted to make this a very sad scene for and it kind of was in a lot of ways because, you know, she has kids and stuff like that. So there was some sadness there. but come on man I want to see like the new columns in her house being repossessed while she's sitting on the couch I want to see movers I want to see movers in that I want to see Flo from Progressive just walking around they're like I'm taking this back okay I'll be taking that back come take that ring right off her finger a lot of people are speculating is that the ring is that the ring that Wendy's in trouble for I hope that Wendy is not dumb enough to be wearing that same ring that she was in trouble for on the show.

8:54She's trying to get pity in the scene that she's trying to get pity. So I don't think it was the ring, but I don't know. Am I an insurance adjuster? Not just a man in a fuzzy sweater. Yeah, I get it. So we have a very somber scene of Eddie and Wendy sitting in the living room. And Wendy's like, I'm here, baby. I feel like I'm in a constant nightmare. Like the house doesn't even feel the same. I have to weep, but I'm not hungry. and like, I just have no desire for appetite. No, nothing. I don't know. I don't know. Like you called it. Her voice was like this soft little whisper. I was like, what is happening here?

9:30I don't have any desire for appetite. I can't even eat. It's called the GLP-1. Okay. Be thankful. Be thankful. Be thankful that we've got them. You know how many non-starving children there are in the world because they don't have access to GLP-1s. they the the two of them both also looked physically different i was like that when they were when they were spent that night in jail did they get some work done i know they looked really good actually yeah they looked especially eddie i mean eddie looked really bad in his photo as we get to later but he in his prison photo but um he looks great here i was like wow did they moisturize you in jail like what happened you got like a great facial they look they look fantastic so whatever they're doing in jail over there because karen came out looking pretty good too So whatever is happening in jail over there, I mean, do you think they get better jail because that's where all our taxes go?

10:22Sure. Let's start that conspiracy theory. It sounds good to me. The Potomac jail. It's gorgeous. They get food catered by the Tally Ho restaurant. It's time for a commercial. It's time for a Crappin's commercial. So Eddie is like, yeah, I just it didn't feel real. It just felt like that day was a prank. And part of me was like, imagine if Andy Cohen comes bursting through the door like, you just got punked. Reboot coming to Bravo in 2027. That would be Bravo's punked, like the most heartless punks in the world. I sent you to prison and terrified your children. I know. Bravo would 100 % do that.

11:04So Wendy is like, never in my wildest dreams did I think it would lead to us being taken away in handcuffs. It's so crazy. It feels like a bad dream. so it's interesting because they basically say nothing in this scene of like i can't believe we were falsely accused they're just like it just feels like a bad dream bad dream when we were arrested for our fraud here i thought we would do i think the dream is that you commit fraud and you don't get arrested yeah that's that's and you're a public figure yeah so it's a bad it's a bad dream you know i mean of course they're they're upset they got arrested they went to jail it sucks yeah I would be too.

11:41But, you know, they are very good at turning it to where it's like, but it's where the victim's here. No, no, you know, no. Sorry. It seems like the evidence is pretty strong. Yeah, so they're talking about how they heard Cameron in the background. And she's talking about how it's not fair because Cameron's so innocent. And, you know, when she told her that she was going to go spend the night with her auntie, Cameron was just so excited just to hear her voice. And, you know, she was worried about the kids. And then she goes, and do you think this is going to affect all marriage? And, wow, throw the gauntlet early.

12:19Like, geez. Seriously. he's like I mean it has impact and I think it's going to impact us because I just know that after this incident I'm not the same person and I hope that I'll be okay with you because I'm not the same I don't think I'll ever be the same well I feel like you probably won't ever be a professor again that's for sure if that if that counts I would you think that she was a priming for a I'm divorcing Eddie Eddie drew me into this mess and I am divorcing him and yada yada yada the Teresa Giudice path of leaving Joe Giudice? Well, the Teresa path was a little bit easier because Teresa is literally, like people will like poke her to get into a house.

13:02Like she's a ding dong, you know? Yeah. But Wendy and Eddie have all those emails, you know, and she has all the DBAs, not DBAs. What am I trying to say? The aliases and social security numbers and stuff like that. So it's not going to be as easy for her, I don't think, to get out of there. But, yeah, I do think she's kind of probably laying down that foundation. Yeah. Like, I'm leaving you because I trusted you in this thing. And he might even be okay with it if it means, you know, one of them is out to be with the kids and stuff. There's so much white-collar crime. I don't know that they're really going to go to jail.

13:39Do you go to jail for white-collar crime? Do people still go to jail for that? Yeah, you do. And especially like if you're a public persona and like there's other social elements that go into it. You know, I think if they were honestly, I think if they probably were like a wealthy white couple from Connecticut, they would get like a slap on the wrist. But I think that the system is unfortunately doesn't, you know, works against people like Wendy and Eddie. So I think it's going to be I think it's going to be hard for them. Yeah, this is you know, this is an interesting one because they did wrong.

14:13I mean, most of us have read the emails and seen what they're accused of and what they most likely did or did or did. And part of it is just it was so stupid. The crime was so stupid. As we talked about earlier, like just the faking, the robbery was just done so poorly. I mean, come on. Be trickier, you know? Like make a better scene. And so as a gay who loves theater. As a gay. You know, as a gay. As a theater gay. As someone who really likes a theatrical experience, I was just like the theater was bad. It was bad theater. And you need to go to jail for that. Now, as far as robbing insurance companies, I mean, insurance companies are kind of a big evil.

14:50And I don't know that anybody's really rooting for the insurance company. So it's kind of a tricky one. You know, Eddie and Wendy goes up and down, in my opinion, depending on the season, as most Bravo cast members do. But I do still like Wendy, and I don't want her to go to jail. That's what I'm saying. I don't want her to go to jail. I don't want either of them to go to jail. But I mean, okay. ask people here who had their houses burned down how good the insurance is to you yeah that's right that's right although progressive does have a new funny commercial two really funny commercials out right now so i'll i'll take my wrath out on like i don't know someone else the uh the liberty emu i don't like that thing but you know yeah rob liberty rob liberty the liberty commercials are really bad like across the board like the emu is not doing it for me i think it's like just a sad attempt to try to like follow in the footsteps of the geico and like the aflac duck and it's just like you're too late on that front and then the other type of the other brand they have where they're just like people sitting on a bench in front of statue of liberty those are actually even the worst of the worst progressive is like the gold standard flow is hilarious i love the one that they're in right now where they go to like have you seen this one where they go to the improv show they've been showing it throughout the whole olympics where there's like an improv troop that's like on stage and they're like okay uh give us a word they're like they're like life insurance or something like that like uh okay well how about something else like how about the fact that with progressive you can and they're like the improvers are like what the i like laugh at that one every time and then they have a new one out that's where she comes from stephanie courtney and she's the grounding that's what i was telling dom i was like this i was like dom this commercial must be very special to her because she came in the ground like som's like great thanks um I'm like, guys, it's emotional.

16:33She's back to her roots. And then I have another one where there's like a lady who, they say she's passive progressive instead of passive aggressive. And there's like a lady who's just like totally passive aggressive to her friends, the whole commercial. I was like, yes. So they're really doing it for me right now with their content. Totally. So if Wendy and Eddie robbed Flo, you'd be pissed. But if they robbed the emu, you're okay. Totally. Okay. No, but getting back to that, though, I do think like, I mean, you know, if you commit a crime, you should do the time, you know, like you should deal with the punishment.

17:09However, I would be really upset if their punishment were like some like egregious, like 10 years, 15 years in prison when there are people who will literally take on other people's lives who in some cases haven't even been charged. so i think that like in this case like this i'm kind of like like you know you should be you should be punished i don't think you should ever be able to break the law even if it's like sticking it to like a you know you know the insurance agencies or insurance companies but um i would like i i don't i don't think that they should be like incarcerated for like years and years and years and years but i don't know well my favorite thing is when people get in trouble for doing something especially illegal.

17:52And then they say things like this. God's got us. That's why we made it this far. Girl, God does not have you. Otherwise that robbery would have looked decent. God would have knocked some stuff over in your house while you were gone to make it look like a robbery. God does not have you in this. Yeah, that's, I think if God had you in this, you would have for sure found a better way. That's not God's job to make it okay after you, after you committed fraud. You wound up on the real housewives there's no there's just no world in which someone winds up on the real housewives and you say yeah god's got them no i don't think so i think god gives up on you the second you enter the real housewives universe god was like checking something on the stove and then like turned around and like you were gone you're like whoa where'd they go god's like listen i can't save anybody in housewives because i need to root for them all equally okay they're i They're my TV.

18:46I can't pick favorites here. You're all fucked. I'll catch you on the flip side. So it's three months later. And now it's 5.30 a.m. And it's pre-show. And everybody's arriving. And the music goes from Wendy being like, oh, my God. I don't think I'm ever going to be able to speak to you again. I don't know if our marriage is going to last. And it's like, bam, bam, bam. Bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam. It's all happy again. It's like, okay. Gel segments over. Bring out the sequence. We're in New York for the reunion. Well, it's also such a pivot because it's like the scene where they're on their sofa and they're there.

19:20They've gone through this traumatic experience of being arrested and going to jail. And when he's just in sweat, it's like this is this is me in my most raw state. Like, I don't have glam. It's like, I'm just, oh, my God, I'm a changed person. And now I'm in sweats. Just kidding. I'm in a ball gown for the reunion. It's just sort of like this moment of like I'm raw to here I am as glamorous as possible. Yeah. Just the nature of the show. It's not an indictment on Wendy, although I shouldn't even say the word indictment. But yeah, so now we're backstage and things are happening. Ashley's very excited because she sees Karen's name on a dressing room.

19:55She's like, oh my gosh, you really going to be here? And people start coming to the stage. Giselle's in there first. And Andy warns her. Well, Andy warns Giselle, like, you're going to be sitting next to Wendy. And she's like, oh, am I supposed to hold her hand? And Giselle does not want anything to do with anyone who's been arrested. Unless it's Karen. Hey there, Giselle. What are you looking forward to today? She's like, I'm looking forward to, you know, Wendy's State of the Union address. And Ashley's like, I would just be here as in nine. It just needs to come to habit. And then more people are arriving and everyone is very red.

20:38I mean, usually they have like a color palette that they get to pick from, you know, it's like red ish. But man, they're all in the exact same color red today. And Stacey says, oh, thank you. I look like it's a Niger. It's a Nigerian designer today. Thank you. Thank you very much. And she's like, I think it's the same one that I wore last year. And we see that last year when Ashley had that thing with sort of like the horns coming up over out of her chest. It's just kind of, it's like the same designer and kind of the same look. It's like, oh, same dress, huh? Yeah, same designer. And Stacey's like, I haven't even sat down yet, taking a breath in before you're coming for me.

21:18Why are you looking at it through a negative lens? Jeez. So then everybody's just saying hi, and they're making jokes about having running water. Because I was like, you smell good, Tia. She goes, yes, I had running water today, so thank you. And you just see what's her buns on the couch like. I do not appreciate your running water joke. I'm Angel and I've come to play. Now, since they shot this, Angel's been doing interview after interview, which God bless all these podcasts. You want to interview Angel. But she's on a lot of them. And I've seen a bunch of clips from them. And she's promising.

21:54Oh, you'll see a different side of me at this reunion. I am coming for these ladies. So I'm excited to see. You're going to get to know me. You will get to know me. I've got the fire of an outdoor grill burning for these ladies. A fire burning that could have cooked the outdoor salmon that they were going to eat on the day we all got lost. Oh, I'm coming for you, ladies. I'm coming for you. So Wendy shows up and like, wow, wow, love your hair. Okay, feathers. so um now it's time to start the reunion hey everyone i'm andy cohen and welcome to the real house i'm so sorry to stop you i just wanted to say before we stop this i didn't think of it until you had already started talking and that's how i roll okay i'm an interrupter sorry you only got to know um but this whole wendy you know i know that the stuff they're going through isn't great but i love that wendy can use it to her advantage and you have to give her credit for that the first scene was pretty well played you know i thought it was a load of bullshit but i think a lot of people probably bought it and then this thing where she comes in last and makes the grand entrance and then you know it's like right before filming goes so everybody's kind of on their seat and she gets the diva entrance and then she gets the first seat i was like wow she's really working this you know people are going to start getting in trouble and going to jail on purpose because she's like getting the best edit now.

23:20People are jealous. Wow, look at that jailhouse glow she's got. Why does her skin look so good? I'm going to go to jail. We should look at the numbers next year and see if stats are up. Just like women who look really good going to jail. Yeah. Glamorous people. We'll have to see if Pew Research is covering that topic. Gallup's not busy. Gallup is not busy. Gallup has some extra time. So Andy is like, well, it's hard to believe it's been a decade since we introduced the world to the quiet little enclave of Potomac, Maryland. And what a ride it has been. You may have noticed the equestrian theme.

24:00That's because you ladies hosted an inordinate number of horse theme events this season. And by the way, there's this like sculpture of a horse sticking its head into the reunion set. Like it's at like it's at like a stable. they cut to that thing so many times during this reunion it's like are they just going to ask it a question already like how many times do we have to see his face it's all like hmm start some drama yeah well we've got two OGs on the stage Ashley Giselle did either one of you get new boobs either one of you come on come on guys the horse got new boobs I'd like to introduce the horse your new boobs look great horse I have children then horse's new boobs wow okay what do you have to say to that god is with you okay did the horse commit a crime i don't know what's going on there um so he's like did you ever imagine that this the show would turn into what it is and jazelle's like absolutely not but i knew that i would be friends with ashley you know because the second i knew her i knew she was special oh okay are we gonna forget are we gonna forget how you treated ashley in the beginning you were like that aura i don't hang out with sluts yeah it only took you eight seasons to start to be sort of friendly to ashley i actually had to audition to be your henchman for like eight years until you were nice to her she's like i always knew i always knew what was it like for you two shooting this season without karen giselle's like it was tough and now she goes it felt foreign like she's such an integral part of it.

25:42Yes. I love to argue with Karen and punch down. You know, it's fun when you see that old drunkard sitting by the bar and knowing that she's going to say something stupid if you just poke the bear just a little bit. Ha! But she wasn't there, so not as fun. Well, Karen wasn't on the season, but you know, she is here today. That's why we put a full bar on the stage. Hope it's not tempting. It's like, God, you guys are so insensitive. And by the way, just so you know, before Karen comes out, we're going to need to put a ring of maxi pads on the sofa. Thank you very much. So he does his usual. I love that Andy never changes this because, you know, it could be done with more grace, you know, but he never changes it.

26:25He doesn't care. He's just like, hi, Tia. Hi, Giselle. Hi, Angel. Okay, get through it. What is this, kindergarten? I know. Get through it. Seriously. So. I wish kindergarten was like that. Hey Angel did you get new boobs Hey did you get some work done You don't look the same as you did last year Angel Tia you are season 10 newbies What were your expectations Coming on to the show And Angel's like well my expectations Was just to come in meet a new group Of ladies and maybe gain some friends out of it And how did that go I already know The answer and I'm already gonna say Ha ha Well you know it was definitely a rough landing but I had some fun in the process.

27:10I'm like, you had fun in the process. Did that not make it onto the show? Because as far as I could tell, you were crying every episode and complaining that people weren't getting to know the real you. Well, I'm glad you're not nervous. Well, my chest is a little tight. It's your dress. It's your dress. My God, these ladies have, and they do it, I think on most of the housewife shows, but they've got such big boobs, you know, And then their dresses are just like so tight. How do you breathe? How do you breathe? Why are you doing that to yourself? It looks like it hurts. It's like a Leanne rhyme song.

27:50How do you breathe in that dress? I want you, Nur. So Tia, what were your expectations? Well, you know, I moved to the DMV in COVID. So for me, I was really eager to make some friends and meet new people. Otherwise, I'm stuck at home with my husband, whatever his name is, sitting there boringly, letting the children spill Kool-Aid on the floor. I don't like it. I think I accomplished that. I made new friends. Oh, and you, Stacey, it's your second season. Did you experience a sophomore slump or a season two glow up? She's like, oh, a little bit of both. I had a rough season, but I do appreciate the ways that I've grown and glone with my girl, Wendy.

28:35Glone. Oh, good. Glone is a word, Andy. It's glone. It's a word. You know, you take the good with the bad. You know, take the good, take the bad, take them both. And there you have a stunning set of earrings. And he's like, glone? It's a word. I made it up. Well, you started as a friend, but you've been holding a flute for the last two seasons, and housewives are expected to share more about their personal lives. By the way, I'm talking to Kiernan now, if anybody cares. And you were a friend, now you're a housewife, and you have to share more. So how has that adjustment been for you? Just ask her, you know, what is it like having to pay rent on a fake condo you were pretending to have your, you know, girl power season on?

29:19Just ask her. we kind of broke through the glass ceiling of incest on Vanderpump Rules so that's my question of can you dump Greg and just marry your hot brother we'd like to see more of him I just have a question we've been talking about incest on this network quite a bit would it be incest if I fucked your brother

29:43I think that last year I kind of warmed up to me a bit and so like this year I just sort of settled in I'm just like, I'm going to do it a little bit more. Okay, great. We'll talk to you in about four more hours. Okay. Wendy, how are you? Oh, I'm so good. I'm so good, Andy. He's like, well, you've been on this show half its life. And God, almost as long as you'll probably be in prison. How would you compare the Wendy who started on the show to the Wendy today? She's like, well, the Wendy who started on this show was so unsure of herself, Andy. I had just given birth to Cameron maybe two months before we picked up cameras.

30:20And to see my first season and to go through the transformation, the literal transformation, it has been empowering in a different way. To just look at myself and see all the different parts. Amazing. Wow, that's great. Which is my code for saying, I wasn't listening. Wendy, the elephant in the room is that there are some serious things happening in your world. On October 9th, you and your husband, Eddie, were arrested. You're facing 16 counts of alleged fraud. What can you tell us about what's happening in the case? Well, I can say the investigation is still ongoing, Andy. And I can say that we've had a court appearance.

30:58And, you know, it's been a very trying time for my family. It's been a very trying time. Please, no photographs. Please, no photographs. Oh, those are cameras for the reunion. But still, but still, have some respect. I love that what she can tell us is that the investigation is still going on. I'm like, yeah, we know. it's like what can you tell us like can you do not say what happened tell us so what's she supposed to say well i called myself pam oliver got a few social security numbers and just robbed andy i did as much robbing as i possibly could and the fuckers caught me yeah yeah honestly i just want to we all just want to hear her excuse of like well here's what happened that day so andy so andy asks like how's the how are the children handling it and like cameron is young and doesn't realize but carter is older and he basically he knew something was up because he suddenly had to spend the night at like his mom and sisters and then he basically he went on his phone and he saw it all and and he didn't tell anyone so he went to sleep with this weighing on him which was so sad actually and then the next day they picked him up from school pretending like nothing is wrong and then he started to cry essentially and they they held him and now they're very open and transparent with him.

32:11It's actually a very heartbreaking story. I feel really terrible for the kids. I mean, we're sitting here joking about this, but those poor kids are like, they have to deal with this in the news every day. It's very sad. I was just impressed that Wendy took a nap because she said that when the police came, she was actually taking a nap. And I was impressed because during her wife swap episode, she was like, this woman takes naps. Who does that? You can't take a nap as a mother. I never take a nap. I'm a mother, a mother who doesn't nap. Like that was her big, that was one of her big things in that episode.

32:39Like, I cannot believe I've met a mother that naps. And she learned something, you know, so maybe they do take things from each other on Wife Swap. You know, she's like, I learned to nap. Thank you, Wife Swap lady. So Wendy has this whole monologue about how difficult it was and it was very emotional and her poor son having to go through it, but now they tell her son, anytime they have their court thing, they tell the son, they loop him in, they keep it very transparent and it's like a very nice moment. And Giselle goes, so was the nap the reason why the wig was a little you know to the side you know she's like baby she's going baby well it was to the side it was twisted a little bit that wig was wigging baby she's like okay Giselle it was a nap wig it was the nap wig she said it wasn't my nap wig that was my professor wig Like, that wasn't your professor wig.

33:37No, no, no. He's like, so how do you explain your shit eating grin in that photo? That was terrifying. People are making smile posters from it. And she's like, well, you know, listen, the guy was taking my picture. You know, he was very nice. He was very nice to me, Andy. He was like, give me another look. Give me another look. You know, I was crying. He was trying to make me feel better. So, you know, we made it feel like a modeling shoe. He handed me a cardboard box and said, pretend it's a burgundy stole. So it was a fun day. I don't know if I believe this. I feel like they do like one shot.

34:11You know, I have not been in this position yet, but I sort of get the feeling like it's the, they're like, okay, you're going to take your, we're going to get one shot and move on. We've got a lot of people to process. You never know when you're going to get a Housewives fan. You don't know where they're going to appear, you know, and you don't know when it's going to be helpful. No one has been able to reach the highs of Countess Luanne de Lisep's with her mugshot. Because that mugshot that Countess Luanne has, that is such perfection. The way she's sort of looking down, so she's sad, but she's smiling like, they're going to try to fucking get me.

34:44You'll never be able to keep me down. You know, like there's that rise smile. She has an evil look in hers. She's like, try it again, copper. Try it again. They put me in handcuffs once. Ask them how that went. It's just so good That little hint of a smile Looking dead on like you'll never get me I mean when you compare it to like This weather is crazy by the way It is raining really hard Yeah it's raining so freaking hard This is Los Angeles what's going on It's very rainy It's very dark It's a very dark and rainy night A dark and stormy night It's cozy I enjoy it It is yeah It's lovely Commercials Here comes one right now I'm looking at the various Real Housewives mugshots to see sort of where.

35:31Sonia has a decent one. Who? Sonia. One of the listeners gave me coasters, and all the coasters are a different Housewives mugshot. They're so good. And so from what I remember, I think Sonia is really good. I'm going to look her up right now. Sonia Morgan mugshot. Teresa has an okay one. Sonya's is good. She looks like a Roman statue. She's just like smiling. She's just looking straight ahead, but she looks great. Like her skin looks good. She's like gazing off a little bit. Tinsley has a scary one. Tinsley Mortimer. Tinsley's is crazy. I'll show people on the On Demand so they can see these headshots I'm looking at.

36:12Tinsley has like the eyebrows. Jules Weinstein. Also, hers is not great. Oh, Anakin Honez has one. Jeez, really? It just, it goes so, it goes so deep. Portia. I think Tinsley's are crazy and she's got those 90s eyebrows that are like really thin and like pointing up in different directions. They're like, look over there. Look over there. Don't arrest me. Look over there. You know, there's some housewives who we still have never really been able to see. Like we never saw Shannon's. We never saw, um, uh, what's her face? We didn't see Karen's, did we? Did we ever see Jen Shaw's? Let's see. Yeah, we saw Jen Shaw's, I think.

36:59Jen Shaw mugshot. Did Karen have one? Well, I don't see a mugshot for Jen, but I do see a jailhouse picture of her. And she looks really cute. She's got little buns on her head and glasses. Kim Richards has like a hat. Yeah. All right. It's a nice selection. um huger mugshot yeah there's no karen huger mugshot what a disappointment what a disappointment guys yeah yeah but when he's definitely iconic it's craziness okay so wendy basically says this guy was trying to cheer her up and stacy's like she's like well did you get to choose your shot yes in jail i'm sure you get to like you get to look at the the proofs and be like i'll ask like that one.

37:46I'm like, no, you never know. I feel like it's just the tally-ho guy that works everywhere. You know, he's probably like, girl, welcome. Can't get you breakfast today, but I can get you a decent mugshot. Can I get a different turn around? Turn around. Give me a smile. Give me what those kids call Riz. Do you regret smiling? She's like, well, I don't regret anything because at the end of the day, you get nothing for nothing. I think we have all been through things And you try to smile through the pain No matter how heavy it is I'm like you can try to smile through the pain But like let's not have a crazy smile though Let's not do a smile poster Like you just mentioned Let's just do a prom photo smile Hers was pretty crazy And she doesn't look like she was crying at all Actually I'm going to show this again Because now I don't believe her Because this doesn't look like a crying photo Or maybe she's just a prettier cry crier than me because when i cry my eyes are all puffed up and like i look i look like somebody beat me up you know um yeah she looks cute okay why am i obsessing over mugshot photos i need to stop it so um jazelle's like um did you pop a happy eddie before he went in there because he looked high as fuck and she's like no and andy's like okay because that wasn't speculation it was happy eddie and she's like let me tell you something i was not looking high as the kite Now, Eddie, on the other hand, he was he was fog on.

39:10But, you know, I mean, he was just sleeping, too. You know, he was sleeping in his cell. He was taking a nap and they tapped him and said, come take your picture. You know, that's why he looked a little bit off. I don't believe it for a second. I think they both run Happy Eddie. And I think they are saying they're obviously she's going to cover and say we weren't on Happy Eddie because that's bad for the brand to be like, you know, oh, Happy Eddie linked with two people going to jail. So I think they were 100 percent both very high. Well, then I think it was a marketing mistake. because first of all, it's weed.

39:40It's not like, oh, it's not like this respectable. It's not like it has that much respect in the first place. I think they should have been like, yes, we looked happy as fuck because we were high on Happy Eddie. Listen, if you feel like you're going through the worst time in your life and still want to be happy, that's why they call it Happy Eddie. I was in jail. I was still happy. And that's how good the brand is. Dink. Yeah. So Andy's asking because she says she spent the full night. and so or stacy asks about that and she's like what was that like oh man i just need to prepare arabella in case something like this happens like it was very scary and giselle's like i thought you were in and out like i didn't know you even stayed the night so wendy's saying yes there were people in the jail cell with her and she had to sleep in a communal room and it was hard you know she's like because they controlled the lights and which i never knew about jail which i'm like i feel like that's pretty standard like jail concept there and she's like you completely lose your autonomy because you wake up and when they tell you when when you wake up when the lights are on and then you go to sleep when they tell you because the lights are off so hard lessons for wendy about the lighting in jail basically we find out that wendy's an easy sleeper because it's like your first night in jail and the lights go off and you're like i know you can't just sleep anywhere she did not use the bathroom I had no choice but to sleep so she's like yeah and they ask her how she peed and she's like there was a bathroom but I held it I did not use the bathroom and Andy's like well Karen made a wreath of tampons or maxi pads Andy Jesus sorry I have children that would take a lot of tampons so Giselle's like well I remember talking to you Wendy when Karen went in and you were like I can't believe she woke up in jail I can't believe what she's going through.

41:31And you went through it. And you're talking about it like it's a day in the park with the tulips. Like, are you okay? Are you okay? She's like, no, I'm not okay. But I will be okay. Are you terrified? Give us more. Give us more. Not much happened on this season. We only have three more hours to talk about Stacy's breath. And she's like, I was terrified. But my faith is worth killing me. I'd like to say something. You know, my number one fear in life is going to jail. And it is like literally the most terrifying thing to me. And so to now be in a group with two ladies and I know I've been to jail, like it just feels like a little terrifying to me.

42:09Like, wow. Like if those two idiots can be in jail, what's going to happen to me? Oh, my God. The real victim here, Ashley Darby. I'm so glad you could make my jailhouse story about you, Ashley. Thank you very much. Also, how is that the most terrifying thought you can have? You fucked Michael for 10 years. I know, seriously, talk about being in jail You've got pretty thick skin, I'd say So Wendy's like, well, I want to move on You know, okay, well, let's move on We're going to talk about this a little bit later Sorry, Wendy, sorry I guess we're going to have to do it later I just want people to look at the difference In how Wendy is treated and how Karen was treated And maybe it's because Wendy's was not drunk driving.

42:58Because I think drunk driving, obviously, you're putting innocent people at risk when you do that. And this is just insurance companies. So maybe that's why. But they are babying Wendy a lot more. Now, granted, Karen didn't show up to her reunion either. But Wendy was not kind about Karen when she she's trying to rewrite it tonight. Like I never said anything bad about Cowan, but I watched I watched that reunion. part of me feels like with wendy like it's the evidence is all it's a really it's a tough case it's just right there and there's young kids involved and it's just kind of like yeah i think they must know she's she's she's probably gonna get thrown in jail or something some they i don't know there's like a sense of like but with karen there's something so fun about just like poking through Karen's bullshit.

43:48Like it is a sport for Giselle. It is like her favorite thing in the world to do. She just said she was sad that she couldn't do it for this season. And so they're like, and on top of that, it's been something that they've been observing for many years. They've been observing Karen's drinking problems and Karen's been denying, denying, denying. So it's like, they finally reached the final level of like, of like, Hey, we, we reached the boss fight. This is it. We're going to prove we're going to win this game. And we're going to prove that karen is a drunk you know well that's true yeah i think that's gotten away with it so many times this was like her fourth time so i think yeah they were like okay let's come on guys there's something like really sad about wendy's situation there's like a real sense of a fall from grace like this is someone who is an accomplished academic very very smart who goes and does talking head stuff on cable news and just to see that maybe fame or the pressures of fame or being on the show or whatever the financial pressures were just from supporting a whole large family that it sort of led down this path is like, it's sad actually.

44:57I mean, Karen's situation is obviously also very sad, but Wendy's is like, it's one of those things where like, oh, Wendy, you were supposed to sort of be the best of us You know, like we were a professor. The rest of us are like you've done so many amazing things in your life. And like, oh, no. Karen had kind of already fallen from grace before she came on the show somehow. Not that anything really bad happened or she did anything bad, but she had that kind of like, like just trying to hold it together. Right. The whole time. Grace is the name of her barstool, by the way.

45:31So, yeah, Ashley, this has really affected Ashley, guys, because she's scared of jail. We can't undersell the fact that she received such nasty looks from Wendy and some of the women when she was like, that's so scary. This is my number one fear is going to jail and to think that it's happened to them. Oh, my God. Oh, wow. So terrifying. Shut up, Ashley. Yeah. Congratulations. You've reached the end of part one of a two part recap. For part two, go look for the recap that says part two. See you over there, suckers.

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