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Discussion about Stacy's personality and her reflections during the reunion.
Analyzing the humorous and entertaining aspects of Stacy's QVC clips.
“So, Andy's like, all right, well, why am I so obsessed with watching your old QVC videos?”
The cast discusses Stacy's recent recognition in Vanity Fair and her reactions.
“Because I have seen them and, like, I just think that they're, like, I think they're very entertaining.”
Exploration of the accusations against Stacy regarding her authenticity on the show.
“Everyone who knows her will probably be in jail.”
Discussion around Giselle and Stacy's accents and personal identities.
“but I just thought she was looking for something to pin on me, and that's when she found that I have an English accent, and it clearly triggers you, because you married up and you're trying to be prim and proper.”
Delving into the ongoing controversy regarding TJ and the dynamics with the cast.
“T-shirts are available at happyeddy.com.”
Discussion about truth and deception among the cast members.
“It's rather just that you got caught out and you said something wasn't true.”
Exploring how gossip affects personal relationships and family.
“She had, it took her four extra hours to pile her hair into the shape of a freebie.”
Debating the nuances of dating history and social acquaintance.
“I think you can also go on a date with someone.”
Examining business motivations and accusations of dishonesty.
“So Tia's like, so for me, I literally walked away and I was like, my heart was racing.”
Discussing the significance of cultural names in branding.
“And so we see that where she was like, no, I'm definitely not going to do that.”
Analyzing the accusations and victim mentality among cast members.
“So now they're talking about what bullshit is that, you know, what bullshit that is.”
Delving into the allegations and the absence of concrete evidence.
“Well, that's an interesting thought, Wendy.”
Discussing reactions to accusations and the need for accountability.
“My biggest fear is to go to jail because of a victim complex.”
Stacey discusses her approach to improving trust and relationships.
“But they weren't like signed legal documents.”
Angel shares updates about her life and new home developments.
“Liquid IV, keeping you alive and perky all day long.”
Exploring themes of friendship and perceived betrayal among cast members.
“I made the choice after they kind of kicked me out for being off key in my Roberta Flack song.”
Analyzing conflicts and communication breakdown between cast members.
“And she's like, um, I've apologized to Angel before, but I would like to apologize again.”
Explore the power dynamics and emotional interactions among the group members.
“You know, because like, you know, that's why I say when I watch it back.”
A discussion on the implications of calling someone a 'catfish' and its context.
“it's okay it's safe you can talk you're saying go ahead Angel you have the floor you can talk you're in a safe space now I'm talking now.”
Examining Angel's reactions and her challenges in dealing with the group.
“So she knows that's Angel, but she's saying, like, who is this person?”
Analyzing the conflict and misunderstandings between Angel and Wendy.
“Well, I think you're definitely right about like the catfish thing specifically.”
A deep dive into the nature of apologies and justifications in the reunion.
“She's like, do you want me to apologize or not?”
Angel reflects on the group's perception and their interactions during the season.
“But definitely she was coming for Angel in that moment.”
Discussing Ashley's humor and its impact on her relationships this season.
“the show Angel's like I think we were a joy and a pleasure to be around I'm like, okay, okay.”
Explore the shift in Ashley's demeanor and the group's reactions.
“And you're like, well, I thought it was just like some little joke.”
Wendy defends her accomplishments against accusations from Ashley.
“So we come back and she says, how do you view me?”

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0:21well hello and welcome to watch walker app it's this is part two of a two-part recap if you're like hey wait a minute i didn't hear part one guys it's because we put out a lot of recaps go back and listen to part one okay it's before this one bye enjoy the show so now let's uh talk about the qvc queen stacy rice stacy give me an honest smile she's like hello indy stacy's frozen crazy smile this entire reunion was hilarious just so great so great well it's been a better year for the qvc queen despite the fact that some of her fellow housewives haven't been buying what she's been selling oh that was all right that was a pretty good pun i'm gonna give it to the reunion team because normally it's something like when you're on qvc some of the women don't want to see anymore you know so i was like i think the not buying what you're selling i'm gonna give some some could do's to that one yeah i mean he's like well do it all through all the accusations of lying stacy will rise watch so we see and stacy's just like i love it she's like oh my god it's my clip he's referenced me being a liar five times in one paragraph i love it i'm glad to be here thank you so much for having me here so we see her clip package and i was cracking up through the whole clip package because you know during the season while it's happening every week it's like enough about this but seeing it all in a clip package i just was cracking up that they're calling her out on every single lie which turned out to mostly be true i think uh that she was lying in any case but she's such a good housewife she's just such a perfect like specimen for this show Like, this is what we want in our Real Housewives.
2:15Take note, Roni. So, Andy's like, all right, well, why am I so obsessed with watching your old QVC videos? She's like, are you? Yes. And then we see more of her, you know, QVC things like, wow, I feel like this is the pink of a woman. Walk into that holiday party and be unforgettable. And she's like wearing a smock. Look, this is a great Gallup outfit. wear this and that your next black tie event it's just like yeah it's just like a sack and i can't i can't stress enough like how talented she is at just even keeping a smile on her face because the clothes they have her in are just terrible i mean they do look like dish rags they look like dollar store dish rags that don't ever sop anything up you know like you wet the counters down and then you just move the water around on the counters they are terrible they're sewn terribly the colors are terrible.
3:08I've not seen her wear one decent thing on there and every single time she acts like she's going to the Oscars. She's like look at this. You want to feel like a real woman? Put on this piece of fabric. And then of course the famous earring one that you bring up all the time. Talk about length. Talk about drama. Talk about stones. It really just tickles me every time. So Andy does that line and he's like, Kiana do you think you could doze off to the soothing sounds of Stacy's videos. Did you just doze off while I was talking? She's like, um, no, not for me, actually. Because I have seen them and, like, I just think that they're, like, I think they're very entertaining.
3:48It's like, wow, well, that's great from here, Kierna, entertaining. That's a concept you should look into. And anyway... You could learn a lot from those QVC clips, Kierna. I like that Kierna was going to be shady, because he's like, did you doze off? Was it soothing or whatever? She's like, that's a no for me, Andy. But she knows that the world is on Stacy's side, so she course corrects yes she's like they are entertaining yeah i think they actually all are being a bit careful because they do know that everyone loves stacy and andy's like well stacy you made it onto vanity fair's best performances of 2025 ladies round of applause it's like begrudging clapping around it's like like why does this get to be in vanity fair and she's like they literally tried to take her down all season and she got on vanity fair she's just sitting there cracking up like next to Leonardo DiCaprio, you know?
4:37He's so great. I love when, like, she goes, God is good. Won't he do it? That's a Lala Kent quote. Just kidding. So Wendy's, like, all the time. He's like, well, how did that make you feel when you saw that? She's, like, incredibly humbled and grateful. Giselle, what was your reaction? Giselle, why are you grabbing a little towel in your hands and twisting it so much? What's happening over there? why are you holding a Barbie whose head you're ripping off? She's like, well, Andy, Potomac has gotten some drama, and you know, people were in jail. Sorry, sorry, Wendy. People will be in jail. Sorry, Wendy.
5:18Everyone who knows her will probably be in jail. Sorry, Wendy. Scary. Sorry about that, Wendy. So scared. I'm scared. Actually. My biggest fear. But, you know, we had Wendy, we have Karen, and it was just like, oh, well, here's a positive thing, so that's good. So congratulations for that. That was a very diplomatic response from Giselle. And he's like, well, Stacey, do you consider what you do on the show to be a performance? Because one could say that is exactly what these ladies take issue with in the first one. And now they're like, yeah, fuck this bitch, fuck this bitch, she's a performer.
5:51Like they were waiting. Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding. Well, I think that's one of the most beautiful things about my QVC videos coming to light is that you're able to see that I was always the same person. I think it's very clear. And Ashley's like, but you were performing! Cameron's like, it was a job! She's like, indeed. But I think you can see that you can see my personality. My genuine joy of being alive, wearing rayon. I think you can see that runs through me when you see those videos.
6:29Well, I would say that I sat in front of Stacy on a plane coming back from one of the cast trips and I could hear somebody speak and I didn't even know it was her because her voice was completely different. Imagine, she's like here's what she said. She said Brittany, why would you ever say those things about my husband and this stupid movie I'm waiting for to end. I'm just going to go to sleep now before I shake Brittany's chair. Imagine she's just behind Meredith the entire time. Yeah, we just see a clip. We just see a clip of the plane scene. How dare Darling, princess, my husband was on sex.
7:02It's a totally different voice that you use, Stacy. Well, you would know about different voices. You're the queen of accents, aren't you? So you could call it. It's like, oh, can I say something about this accent thing? I do feel that Stacy has a QVC voice, but I just thought she was looking for something to pin on me, and that's when she found that I have an English accent, and it clearly triggers you, because you married up and you're trying to be prim and proper. And I'm actually a person with a British accent. So, ooh, can't marry into that, can you, sweetie? Well, no, I didn't marry up. And it's not about your English accent.
7:41It's about how it doesn't ring true when you talk. And Angel's like, this is kind of a silly argument. I mean, that's her accent and you'll get to know me. And Giselle's like, well, Stacey, when did you hear her speak differently? She's like, well, in the same way that she's heard me speak differently in a private conversation. She's been married to a man from Chicago for years. So I think what Stacey's trying to say is that, well, first of all, if her conspiracy theory is that Tia does not have a British accent, that's hilarious. But I'm assuming basically that Tia has picked up some Americanisms and some Chicago-isms.
8:13But I think what Tia's trying to say about Stacey is the voice that you're hearing now, this like QVC voice, this is not her real voice. And the real Stacey has a much more like It's like the baby from Roger Rabbit right? When you hear her really talk she's like what? You want me to do QVC again? You better give me the big fucking bucks this time I ain't wearing Rayon for free. Alright I'm huge now. I'm in Vanity Fair. Get it together you motherfuckers. Yeah like she has like an authentic voice that was like always the voice of her life and then like then she goes on TV and she's like hi I'm Stacey Rush and she's like this isn't who you are you're saying this is who you are but I know your voice is not like this at all.
8:54So it's kind of a funny argument. But especially, I just love that Stacey's retort is like, you don't have a British accent. It's like, not a very strong, not a very strong counter. But I didn't love Tia being like, oh, well, you married up, so. I don't like that. Seemed kind of gross. Like, mm-hmm, it's on these shows, so what can I say? What can I say? Yeah, she's like, well, I've also got American children. You might notice because one of them makes out with mirrors. Only Americans do that. You're just exposing your ignorance and it's funny because you talk about how many countries you've been to and you're always counting it out.
9:31And then we see a clip of Tia and Stacey being at lunch and Stacey saying, I've been to Nigeria. Yes. So, um, I just thought, I don't know why that was so funny. I feel like the editors were like, we need to save this clip. It'll just make Roddy laugh. I've been to Nigeria. So then Tia is like, Well, that's clearly a thing for you. You think it's an accomplishment. But if you were really that traveled and worldly, basically saying like, Oh, for those of us in the traveling class, it's nothing to be like, Oh, I've been to Nigeria. Like, whatever. I call that Tuesday. Stacey's like, I do think that traveling the world is an accomplishment.
10:12Absolutely. Yes, but you're new to this. Clearly, it's a new thing for you. Clearly. Tia trying to pull rank on this. It's time for a commercial It's time for a crappin's commercial So Giselle's like Well I have an accent too Okay So he says I want to go back in time for a moment To when your integrity came into question Oh surely that was day one Andy Princess Yuma Exactly one year ago We sat on this stage TJ was claiming that you paid him to be on the show with him. And Wendy's like, bring Eddie out. Bring Eddie out. T-shirts are available at happyeddy.com. So, yeah, I know. Seriously, I was like, oh my god.
11:01Still trying to make bring Eddie out happen. I'm like, look at Wendy. You can't get Wendy out. She'll still be here trying to sell merch. She doesn't care. Seriously. Yeah, so then we see flashbacks to last year, et cetera, and all the TJ stuff, and all that stuff. So then we, and now we dive into like, did TJ just... This is also very her, this is also a very Stacey answer because he goes, so you still deny those quays about TJ? And she goes, I still stand my truth. Okay. So yes or no? Yeah, that's not really an answer. Sandy's like, well, did Dino meet TJ when you were on QVC with him? She's like, well, of course.
11:47and was TJ any reason for your breakup with Timo? She's like, no, not at all. I just needed to have a storyline for last season. Okay, well, who was the one who actually filed for divorce? I was. And so we see now on screen, you know, the divorce filing or whatever, or at least, I don't know, is this supposed to be proof? There's a lot of back and forth this season over, like whether or not this was a real divorce filing or a fake one. Yeah, they were saying, oh, she just got that online. somewhere. She went to like legal zoom and printed this shit out. And I can't tell the difference. I mean, what do I know?
12:23And then Andy's like, Wendy and Tia, you seem to be the only people who got to have conversations with Timo. So Ryan from Atlanta said, Stacy, you claim that Timo came to Potomac and pony's event because of your relationship with Wendy, but yet he didn't attend the couple's dinner with Wendy Eddie. So Tia and her husband, because Wendy and Eddie, so make it make sense, girl. I can't even make it make sense, and I'm reading it off of a card. Thank you, Ryan from Atlanta. Please write better questions. I mean, what the hell is this? Well, he knows how hurt I was by Wendy and Eddie in the moment for being the messengers of such a painful moment.
13:00So I did not go to dinner, not only because he was not in town, but because of last season. It's like, okay. So, well, regarding him not being in town, it seemed like rolling the tape proved that the timeline was not what you said it was. because well looking back at the episodes it all looks like a bunch of mumbo jumbo and I think what's important to understand is that my husband travels twice a week if not eight or nine times to Germany and sometimes internationally one time he even spends an entire week circumnavigating the entire globe five times he just wasn't in town so I didn't want him to meet Wendy and Eddie just yet and if I invited you to meet my family and I said to you he's uncomfortable why would you go back I can repeat that right to the person.
13:43But you didn't. You didn't say that. I mean, she did. But she also lied in the same thing. And that's the thing with Stacy, you know? There's like little kernels in there. And she's like, it's just so bizarre to me. It's so bizarre to me that you wanted to make Teemo uncomfortable. It's like, oh, well, the straw that broke the camel's back for me. It's rather just that you got caught out and you said something wasn't true. And you tried to make it out that I lied on you. And the minute that you got caught out, you lied on me. zoo who's lying on who lie lie lie well you did not come to meet Timo and Arabella to gently get to know us you came to clock in and gather information to take back to your master and everyone's like uh we did not use this language and Ashley's like um that's a strong word and Tia's like my master yes she was reporting back to her master I said what I said and they're like uh so Giselle's like well you report back to your master and that would be Wendy.
14:38And Wendy's like, I'm nobody's master. Can we stop saying the word master so much? This is really making me uncomfortable. Just I was like, that's crazy, yeah. Well, Wyatt had been crossed and I think that context is very important. I was so uncomfortable because I had heard what you guys had gone to repeat about Monique to her ex-husband and that affected her family. She had, it took her four extra hours to pile her hair into the shape of a freebie. that day. It was very, very upsetting there. And here's another thing for me. And by the way, we see a flashback of Kierna saying that it was like that Cookie told her that Stacey told Chris about this whole thing.
15:21So Tia's like, here's another thing for me. I said to you, do you know Chris Samuels? And you said to me, I do not know that man. And then you said to me, I would never discuss that man's family with him. And I've only seen him socially. But then we see a flashback of her saying that but then we also see the late night thing of where um stacy says she and timo saw other people and chris was one of those people i it's weird because when in that conversation with the security camera whatever i thought i could have sworn that stacy was saying that she just knew chris and chris was someone that she knew i didn't realize that she had said that like like chris was one of the people that she went on a date with but maybe i just remembered it incorrectly yeah I remembered it being that yeah that she said that what's the big deal so like I went on a date with Chris or whatever yeah and it still is not a big deal because they are she doesn't know she didn't know what's her face at that time Monique yeah but then she should have just said that like so I went on a couple of dates with him who cares instead of being like no what I don't know him okay well I mean I know him socially okay well I dated him it's just typical Stacy but I also think I'm not even going to try anymore.
16:33I think you can also go on a date with someone. You go on one or two dates and nothing happens. And then you're just like, yeah, I know this person socially. We're friends. We don't really have much of a relationship. But yeah, she should have just copped up to it and put it to bed. I think the biggest defense, the best defense here would be like, you guys are blaming me when you've got a whole ass cookie over there. Has anybody been reading up on what cookie does? Yeah. And what cookie's guilty of? Come on now. No one should trust anything that comes out of cookies. That's correct. So Tia's like, so for me, I literally walked away and I was like, my heart was racing.
17:06And I thought, if somebody can hold your hand and lie like that, I was really bothered. More bothered than I was seeing that they never replaced that old shitty banist in my father's old home. Disgusting. How could they keep that thing? Do not know it'd be on television. Okay, well, maple syrup from Isn't Really Better Than Mrs. Butterworth, find it out in the comments, says, Stacy, it seems like you had way more smoke for Tia at the Shio launch than you did for Ashley. And Ashley acted way worse to you all season. And then we see the flashback of that. And Tia's saying, can you just shut up? You're not going to tell me to shut up.
17:46Get your ass out of my event. Take your things toodle do. Do you regret kicking Tia out? She's like, no, I don't. All right, well, Joanna from Fabric said at last year's reunion, you were adamant about not opening your own cannabis line. And so we see that where she was like, no, I'm definitely not going to do that. Well, then you just turned around this season and launched your own cannabis cannabis line. Can you admit the gears were in motion to open up the business last year? Well, I can admit that I held many meetings with many business endeavors and it wasn't a done deal. That's what I can admit.
18:24Then why didn't you just say that? Well, I wanted to get back into it because I didn't owe you that, Giselle. I didn't owe that to you. But I said Stacy's coming in competition for Happy Eddie. And I told you the truth, that I did not have a cannabis line at that moment. And you were like, absolutely not to know cannabis. Absolutely not. When you asked me, it was absolutely not. But then as soon as we started the season, you were like, I'm starting a cannabis line. It's just like, why wouldn't you just say I'm in the meetings or something about it? She goes, well, and Angel was like, I'm not sure why she even cares about this.
18:56You'll get to know me. And Stacey's like, because I absolutely did not have a cannabis line when you asked me. Like, oh, OK.
19:06So now they're talking about what bullshit is that, you know, what bullshit that is. And Angel's like, I'm not sure why she cares because I absolutely did not have a cannabis line when you asked me. Like, whatever, whatever. And so they're like, OK, so Wendy, did Stacey have pure intentions in naming her company with a Nigerian word? And Wendy's like, yes, she knew what she was doing. Come on. I'm honoring my Nigerian heritage. I've been there before. Well, I was going to name it 10 ,000 miles, which is what I got last time I went to Nigeria. It was just too long of a name. Oh, wow. You think it's so special?
19:41You've been on a airplane. Oui, oui. So Wendy says, when Andy asks about like the name Shia, Wendy's like, yeah, she knew what she was doing. I'm honoring my Nigerian heritage. And she's like, the Nigerians want the name back, please. So Wendy says, I think it was a way for Stacey to get back at Eddie and I for doing the TJ thing. Well, that's an interesting thought, Wendy. And you're probably absolutely correct. Okay. Yeah, that was her way, I think. I think that's a good theory. that she was like, fuck these people. They fucked with me. I'm going to steal their stupid weed business. Well, an ass from Tasia says, Giselle, Ashley, and Kierna, none of Stacey's alleged lies are about you or affect you in any way, so why are you so pressed?
20:27And Stacey's like, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, Andy. You stole my ding-a-ding-a-ding-a-ding. I already did a ding-a-ding-a-ding. I didn't even hear it. She stole my invisible bell right out of my hands. What? No, my ding-ding is from Nigeria. Hi, Heritage there. Oh, welcome to the club. So Giselle says, just be clear. So we were shown this information. Did you not expect us just to not talk about it? Well, I just don't think that you treated me fairly, especially being women who've been with men who've humiliated you both. And Ashley's like, oh, my God, this is such a victim complex. My biggest fear is to go to jail because of a victim complex.
21:08TJ humiliated you, why? And she's like, yes, and you should have shown me some empathy and some compassion. And you just believe this. For what, Stacey? For what? The man got on and talked to Eddie. He said you paid him. And then it so happened that Ashley and I were in L.A. and we see a paperwork. It just so happens we were at a restaurant and somebody brought paperwork right up to our table. So we're not supposed to bring it up. It was just a coincidence. Oh, talk about lying. You two are so full of it. You and Ashley just happened upon this famous actress at a restaurant who just happened to have papers to show you.
21:41And yet nothing's ever like shown up in the public sphere. Right. None of these papers. None of the. Yes. The papers were. Well, they did. Yeah. Remember, we looked at the papers. And I quote unquote. And we made a big mistake about it because we couldn't do. We couldn't do dates. Right. Yes. I still don't believe it. Whatever. I'm a denier. Kiernan is like. But they weren't like signed legal documents. You know what I mean? It was like from someone's home printer. That thing, yeah. That said, I, Stacey Rush, agree to pay TJ half of my income for the rest of eternity. I know. But then TJ, in terms of like TJ just going to get his money back, all that stuff just never surfaced.
22:20And TJ was like, I've got the receipts. That never surfaced. Like nothing showed up. So it's really dubious. So Tia's like, do you not see from the other side? It cannot be that you're the victim all the time. At some point, you have to realize that there are things that you're doing that are making people react to you a certain way. You lied. It's like, all right, well, Stacy, it's clear that you have a road ahead of you to get some of these. Oh, Angel, sorry, I shouldn't mention roads. I know you're still traumatized by Colorado. Okay, let's give her a moment to stop trembling. Stacy, how will you improve your relationships and regain trust?
22:54I'm looking up to see if TJ ever sees her. I don't see that he did. Well, you look that up. I have to know. I will continue. Stacey goes, well, looking ahead, I just need to be more direct and say exactly how I feel instead of sort of just beating around the bush because I think it can be misconstrued. And Ash is like, or dishonest. So I'd like to I'd like to work from that. If there is a next season for me, wink. She crosses her fingers and gives the camera a wink. I hope you have room for the cover of Vanity Fair magazine. And Andy's like, well, Stacy, sometimes when a housewife is gassed up by the fans, it goes to their head and it affects how they behave the next season.
23:33Are you worried that that could happen to you? That's my way of saying, don't get too excited, bitch. Never, Andy. Never. Okay, well, we're going to put a pin in all things Stacy, but now we're going to get back to it a little bit. You're going to still get in trouble, Missy. Okay. Now we're going to break for lunch. And so Stacy's like, wouldn't a liquid IV be so good right now? Do you like those, Ashley? She's like, they taste bad. I got a vitamin D shot in my butt and everything. Stacy's like, mm-hmm, well, I'm actually doing a paid read right now. So just play along if you don't mind. Liquid IV, keeping you alive and perky all day long.
24:18So a producer counts down and we're back. Welcome back. Well, Angel, Angel came into this season boring and she left the season somehow even more boring. So come on, what's going on with that? So we see an Angel package. And when I wake up, I'm not sure how many hours have passed. I'm like, why is it dark outside? Angel, where are you currently living? Is it on Earth? Get it, Earth Angel. Ha, ha, ha. Andy, we're back and forth to Colorado still. And we've purchased our Potomac home. And we're currently meeting, undergoing renovations with the same home designer that we did for our Colorado home.
24:58And I'm super excited to make this one home. And Ashley's like, oh, is it 30 acres? I said, no, no, it has a few. And if you lived in the Potomac area, you'd actually know what I'm talking about. See, acres are different in Potomac. So you would understand if you lived here. I chose not to live in Potomac. I made the choice after they kind of kicked me out for being off key in my Roberta Flack song. So whatever. Oh, okay, Ashley. Sure. Well, did Tia help you with the sale? And she's like, no, Tia didn't help me. I didn't come on the show to look for clients. I came on the show to look for friends.
25:30Thank you. No, she didn't. Thank you. She didn't come on the show to look for friends because you made that perfectly clear. And we see flashbacks of Ashley accusing Angel of attempting to move. Basically, she came on the show to become famous. And she's like, well, no, I wasn't the one to have a kiki corner every five seconds when the whole eviction thing happened. Giselle, Wendy, and Ashley met up to talk shit about me. There was constant whiplash about not belonging in this group and belonging in this group. Wendy's like, but how come you haven't checked Tia then? Because Tia's the one that told Giselle to say, guess what, you know about all that stuff.
26:03She was very upset with me, very, very upset. Well, Tia, you told me she got kicked out. And she's like, um, I've apologized to Angel before, but I would like to apologize again. And she's like, well, me and Tia spoke about it. And I told Tia that regardless of the way that she delivered it to Giselle, it wasn't her place to tell Giselle what was going on with me. Because if I wanted her to know, I would have told Giselle myself. Okay, all right, I'm bored, Isabella. a hole from New Orleans wants you to know people are saying Bobby's the hottest Real Housewives of Potomac husband minus the eating with his mouth open scenes how do you feel about that I agree and thank you for the compliment and you will get to know me all right do the other ladies agree who here thinks that Bobby is hotter than the men that they are married to who's gonna go on the record so of course they're like no no what that's crazy no and so Wendy's like I like I love me some Eddie chocolate.
27:05I like white chocolate. And Wendy's like, yeah, you do like white chocolate. Yeah, yeah. What type of chocolate do you like, Andy? He's like, ah, the blacker, the berry, the sweeter, the juice. And they're all like, woo. They love that. I know that's white, Andy. And he's like, you ladies are making me blush. So Karen and Angel, you two have known each other for 20 years, huh? And Angel's like, okay, well, Angel, before you even answer, I want you to clear up the chin check debacle. It seemed like your tone about it changed from the shopping moment to the preemies. Was it a chin check or was it not a chin check?
27:44What's a chin check? Come on, guys. Chin check. Well, I thought to myself, is it worth it to drag this thing out? The answer was no. I'm like, thank you. America says thank you. And Wendy's like, but don't you understand? Do you understand how I could feel some type of way about you changing your energy? and Kierna's like, well, can I see something for Wendy's? You know, because like, you know, that's why I say when I watch it back. I can understand. But they start talking over each other because Kierna's trying to jump in and explain herself. And so Angel's like, oh, oh, sorry, go ahead. And they're like, oh, Angel, look at her.
28:18She's controlled by Kierna. Yeah. Like, look at her getting so upset. God, Kierna's so controlling. but then Kirna is also feeling that pressure from the ladies because they're like wait wait a minute I was talking to Angel and she's like well I'm talking now Kirna she does have to kind of assert her dominance but it's because she's trying to impress those ladies too but then they all start acting like child therapists because Wendy's like come on Angel it's okay babe you can speak it's okay it's safe you can talk you're saying go ahead Angel you have the floor you can talk you're in a safe space now I'm talking now.
28:56Well, what kind of relationship is this? She controls her. Look at that control. Keanu's like, what I wanted to say to Angel, just before we skip over that, is like, I want to just make sure that I apologize to you because I used that word. And Angel's like, yes. And we have talked about it extensively. And Stacey's like, well, so have we. And Angel goes, well, and I know how she feels. And I will say to your point, you know, watching it back, I could see how you would think that I was changing my energy in an effort to, I don't know, appease my friend. And Wendy's like, acquiesce a little bit.
29:27She's like, yeah. For the guise. For the guise. Okay, so once you had the chin check under control, another C word caught you off guard. How dare you? Not that one. Oh, okay, yes. Catfish. Okay, great. Giselle, what was your intention of bringing up that Photoshop? She's like, okay, yeah. Now, normally there's new girls at the beginning of the season. And I brought Dia, so I knew her. And I didn't know Angel at all. And one of those blog sites posted this new girl, you know, girls around the group. And I said to production, I said, well, when am I going to meet this person? And they said, you have.
30:03It's Angel. And I said, no. Oh, no. Well, I believe Giselle said that. I believe Giselle said it in a shady way because the picture on the blog had a most likely had a caption that said, you know, Tia. And I forget Tia's last name. I always forget Tia's last name. And Angel Massey. Right. So like Angel is there. So she knows that's Angel, but she's saying, like, who is this person? Because this person, this is not the same person as Angel, right? And so Angel's like, you were being shady, Giselle. God forbid, Angel. God forbid Giselle Bryant acts shady on The Real Housewives of Potomac. You know, it's been around for 10 years.
30:40You knew what you were getting involved in. Like, you cannot be shocked. Andy's like, well, you all use Facetune, right? And they're like, oh, God, hell yes. Thank God for Facetune. Jesus, we love Facetune. I'd pay an extra tax for Facetune, Andy. I love it. And Giselle's like, yes, but, you know, I did make the catfish comment, not Wendy. And Wendy's like, yeah, who made the comment? I made the comment. Okay, well, just to be queer. And Giselle's like, yeah, you know, I wasn't trying to be shady. I just didn't know who you were. And then you continued to talk about it. Oh, my God. No, you did.
31:10You guys were coming in here with your little bitty storylines, the chin check, and the, oh, my God, she uses a filter. They were such stupid things that you guys kept harping on this whole season. And you broke her. I mean Angel you know she's a newbie And she's not very strong but man Angel Didn't do herself any favors cause then she Got offended and then she just kept Being like but I'm still hurt about You calling me a cat Face it's like oh I think Angel They did bring it up but They started to bring it up More when they saw That this was a sore point For Angel cause Angel Angel is the one who I felt like kept on Reopening it first it was like Like everything was fine.
31:51And then the next day, it's not fine. And then they talk about it. And then she's still upset. And then she's now upset at Wendy. And she's now saying that like, okay, now my real issues with Wendy. And Wendy owes me an apology. So at a certain point, they're like, okay, we're going to start fucking with this girl. Because she cannot take a joke. And she doesn't shut up about it. So now we're going to roast her for it. Well, I think you're definitely right about like the catfish thing specifically. But I think they had kept coming for Angel really for no reason from the beginning and trying to upset her.
32:19that they finally got her. And once she was, it's like that, you know, on these shows, once they finally are like, now I'm upset enough to fight with people, it's always over the wrong part, you know? It's like, I may have missed that chance to get them back earlier, demand respect earlier, so I'm gonna get it now during the catfish moment. And then it turned into like, oh, that I used to be a TV news journalist and I relied on my look. So you calling me a catfish, that really, you knew what you were doing. You were bringing women everywhere down. and just I was like um you look like a catfish I didn't even mean you look like a different woman I meant you look like an actual catfish I think just like the rule of these shows is that when you come on especially to one of the shadier franchises um you just have to you just have to punch punch the bully back as you always say you gotta you gotta sort of like give him a boop on the nose that's what Bronwyn did she came in Heather tried to sort of like you know sort of be like I'm the queen bee around here.
33:18And Bronwyn in her first season was like, nope. And I'm going to clap back at you left and right with strength and authority. And, uh, and she sort of like earned her respect in that way. And Angel doesn't really do it. She's sort of Angel responds actually the way a mature adult would respond, which is be like, um, no, that's not the case. And we're not going to talk about it. And we're just going to keep on moving on. And they're like, wow. Like it comes from a place that's, it reads as fear, I think to the other women. So they just are going to keep on needling. I'm not saying any of that is good.
33:46It's like not good to be in an environment like that. But I think that's why they kept on fucking with Angel because she didn't, did not really stand up for herself. I think in her mind, she was being like really strong and being like, I'm clapping back. But in reality, the way she was clapping back was just letting them know, oh, there's fresh blood here and we can pray on it very easily. Like when Tia, when Ashley started with Tia earlier in the season and Tia was like, Ashley, keep up. Like, it was like, boom. Okay. Tia has just like established, like you, you can't fuck with me, Ashley. Try, you may try to, but you're not going to keep up.
34:23Commercials. Here comes one right now. So Angel's continuing on about this, about how Giselle joked about it the whole season and it felt like she was hazing her. And Giselle's like, I wasn't. And Angel says, okay, well, I'll also say this. And Giselle goes, it wasn't that deep. She goes, well, I want to say this, though. Can I say this? It wasn't deep. It wasn't deep. She's like, do you want me to apologize or not? Okay, okay, okay. Okay, all right. Well, in the melee of everything that was happening, I heard the ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, catfish. That's what I heard. And then we see the clip where Wendy's like, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.
35:00And Giselle's like, catfish. So she's like, so it all went together in my head. There. So I apologize. eyes. Wendy goes, Angel, I hear you, but you were hell bent on saying that I said it. And all I did was laugh. And you came into this group with a plan and even, even said it yourself. You looked at Giselle like a big sister. You didn't want to have any smoke for Giselle, but you had all the smoke for me. Even when people were looking at you in the face and saying it was not Wendy, you still did not redirect your energy. And Angel's like, yeah, but you're still making fun of her. Like you're still cackling at the, at the girl being mean to her at lunch.
35:32Like that's not much better you may not have actually said catfish but it's not like you're some innocent in this whole thing you were being a dick too i like that wendy's always like i was the innocent party yeah how dare you you wanted to cover no you were being an asshole too come on well let's not forget it all came down to that brunch i mean there was already kind of like angel came into the season having met wendy and was like hmm don't really know this woman like how didn't have the best impression of her in college but you know i'm willing to look past it and then that brunch happens where Angel's basically saying like, yeah, this whole chin check thing, didn't love it, but we're all good now.
36:05Everything is fine. And Wendy is like, um, what the hell? Because you had a different story before and why are you doing that? And so she sort of put Angel on the spot and Angel was like, why are you coming for me? And then that kind of like soured their relationship. But Wendy's acting like, oh, I was always open arms to you. Like, I was like, no, Wendy, you took the first chance that you could to kind of like, you know, to haze Angel. Wendy plays from the Heather Gay playbook a little bit where she fucks with people and then she's like, I've been a good friend to you. I'm like, what? Not really.
36:37It wasn't the worst offense, which she did. No, it wasn't. It wasn't a super mean thing. She doesn't need to be. But definitely she was coming for Angel in that moment. There's no doubt about it. It definitely felt like a hazing moment. And Angel just flopped as usual. But now Wendy's like, what? I've been so nice to you. You know? So, yeah, you know, in life and on Housewives, it's not really what people do. You can't control what people do to you. You can only control how you react. Right. And I think the sign of true, great, real housewives are how they react. Sometimes it's crazy. Sometimes it's like with sarcasm or humor or whatever it is.
37:17But those reactions are what's good. That's what makes a good housewife. And Angel's reactions are just bad. Like, it doesn't even matter who is right and who is wrong. Giselle, of course, is wrong. Wendy, of course, was wrong. But your reactions were boring. Yeah. And that's the biggest sin, man. So Angel goes, you know, I had that energy based off of interactions that we had. And there was just a lot more dip on my chip in reaction to you. And Wendy goes, well, thank you for owning that you had extra dip on your chip. I like that expression. That little extra dip on my chip. Well, so do I. Okay, Angel.
37:55Robin from Batman's ass said, Angel, can you explain what you meant when you referred to Wendy as having an asshole lips and a Forrest Whitaker eyes? And Wendy's like, please, please do. So Angel goes, yes, that was very harsh. And Wendy goes, in deep detail, please explain. So we see the flashback of her making fun of Wendy to her sister. And she goes, it was harsh. I was referring to the facial expression that she makes, that he makes and that she makes and how they're similar. because, you know, Wendy, when you're skeptical, you make this face and Angel kind of makes a generic like boop, boop, boop face, like a concentrating face.
38:30And she goes, and that's what I was referring to. That was a very Forrest Whitaker face. He's like, but you talked about how you don't like people talking about your aesthetic. And so for you to talk about my physical aesthetic, I think is wrong. I mean, this castibra, I mean, if I called you James Earl Jones, would that be wrong?
38:56so well i mean if i made an expression like him and that's the person you chose and that would be up to you if you were just talking about facial expressions which i was totally just talking about facial expressions angel there's no way stacy's like r.i.p let him rest in peace god rest his soul i do apologize for saying that because that was below the belt it's just not who I am and that's the end of it and you will get to know who I am if I'm asked back but either way you are accepted or you don't I love that when someone apologizes accepted or don't that's my apology I'm like thanks that made me feel good yeah
39:33alright well Kiarna and Angel watching back can you understand why some on the internet gave you the nicknames madness and sadness the show Angel's like I think we were a joy and a pleasure to be around I'm like, okay, okay. That's not what the fan said. Yeah, but here's what it is, Andy. I will say this. Looking back, like when I actually took time to watch it, I did seem a little bit upset. And to be honest, 85 % of the group I got along with very, very well. And let me just, you know, it was just me and Angel on an island. And, you know, that hurt. It wasn't true. Okay, Ashley. So what about bringing catfish to the potluck?
40:12And Ashley's like, oh, it wasn't that deep. And Ashley's like, I mean, if someone calls me a catfish, so what? who cares? And Angel says, but girl, you know, it bothered me and you were just being nasty and petty and that's it. Oh, it was funny. No, it wasn't. It was nasty and petty. Well, you should learn to laugh and just learn to laugh. It's good for the soul. So Angel's like, well, I think that you should laugh at yourself, Ashley, because you've done a bunch of things that have been pretty embarrassing. If you ask me, she's like, well, learn to laugh. And I wish that she had said, what are they?
40:40Cause I would have liked to hear it, but Angel didn't, Angel didn't really get to read. Well, she got the chance. She just, you know. You can lead. Flopped. You can lead. Sorry to say that. Yeah, it's just, you know, she got up to the library door and she just didn't take that step in. Which is sad. Yeah. Sad for that library. So, Ashley is asked, Ashley is told he's got a stack of questions for her about how messy she is. And she's like, Lazy Lobon Tams Relay. Alright. well bounty from man said ashley we usually love your messiness but something felt different this year you were mean and not right nasty at times she's like um to whom can we elaborate i'm like did you not just hear angel pleading for you to stop making fun of her being a catfish so angel's like um hello to me to stacy to me it's a wendy after filming went down and we see footage of ashley on stage doing one of her shows being like Cause then when is in the pen, Lord have mercy.
41:44So Andy asked if she regrets saying that. And she goes, well, I mean, when I saw Wendy's mugshot and she was smiling, like you're literally laughing in the photo. It's like not real. I made a joke. Like I felt like it was a joke. So I made a joke. I just didn't think it was like that real. Ashley, you just got up here and said your biggest fear in all of life is to go to jail. And then you see someone who was living out your greatest fear. And you're like, well, I thought it was just like some little joke. No big deal. Yeah, she's an asshole. And Ashley, I agree with the question. Ashley has been a lot more sinister than usual.
42:15She's always got kind of a fun edge to her. And this season, you see like a lot of the looks she's giving and they're just not. She's mean. I agree. Like she's veered over into the meaner category. It's less fun. And she's like, well, I apologize for that. But, you know, when I saw her mugshot and she was smiling, I just thought, I mean, she's laughing. So, you know, it's not real. And I made a joke. I mean, Wendy, it felt like a joke. So for me to make a joke like that, you know, you've made jokes about people. And she's like, not anyone that has been locked up. Even when Karen was, I was probably one of the only people that did not do that.
42:51Yeah. And Ashley again says, I didn't know the severity of your situation. Which, again, just doesn't ring true from someone who has made a claim that going to jail is her biggest fear in life. But somehow she doesn't understand the severity of the situation. So Wendy's like, well, I think I would believe that except for the fact that I got additional information that says it wasn't necessarily that you saw my mugshot. It was a hidden vendetta that you've always had against me. And that's why you said that. Okay, then elaborate. What are you talking about? Why were there no questions asked about that?
43:21She's like, I got additional information. From who? Say it. Spill it. Well, it's not about a hidden vendetta. I mean, let's revisit. When you first came into the group, you came with like this air of like looking down. Like you were just better than everyone else in the room. And then we see Wendy's flashbacks. I have four degrees, four degrees. I'm not stupid. I have four degrees. So we come back and she says, how do you view me? How you view me has nothing to do with me, but everything to do with you. Well, I don't feel if I, you know, I don't feel if I, my accomplishments. Well, that's because you don't have me.
43:52So. That was pretty great. Because you don't have any. And she's like, bullshit, bullshit, bitch, bullshit. Okay. Well, she's right. she does have a couple of times and Ashley comes back very well. Yeah. She goes, she comes back and she's like, well, at least I have one social security number. That's an accomplishment. Everyone's like, Oh wow. And that's where it says to be continued. So, so funny, such a good reunion episode. We'll see where this goes. It's going to be a good reunion because we still have to dive in further with Wendy. We have Karen coming up and just all sorts of other silliness.
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