#3223 Summer House S10E3: That Thing You Dune

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2:59Apology Dune! Where the only apology is... Oh, gosh. Apology Dune. Yeah, so this is... I loved this episode of Summer House. I was really into it. To me, it had the perfect blend of riveting real-life personal drama. This is a couple that is falling apart and we're watching it and watching them not be able to communicate. Mainly Kyle. Kyle not be able to communicate. Yeah. Is fascinating. I was going to say Amanda's communicating pretty well. It's like, what do you need from me? Stop drinking and going out. I just don't understand what you need. And then, but also like when Summer House is kind of like firing on all cylinders, when they have like a good cast, you know, you really feel it because all the cutaways are funny.

3:50All their little jokes are funny. I find that like I have a parasocial thing where I feel like I'm in the house and they like they crack a joke amongst each other. And I giggle along as if I was like sitting there with them. Like, oh, my God, guys, you're so funny. So I was really I was really in it. It's really feeling. Well, that's cute. I never feel like I'm part of that house because it's a house where people take off their shirts and that would never happen. So to me, that's I was like, I'm like, no, I would never I would never be there. It's like another world to me. It's a whole group of people who's just very comfortable being shirtless at all times.

4:20So I don't really understand them. It's like a zoo to me. It's like watching a zoo. But I still really like it. I would never fit in. I feel like I wouldn't be gay enough for the girls to want a pal with me, and I wouldn't be bro enough for the guys to want to bro out with me. So I would just be sort of in the middle there, sort of hunched over the counter, offering to make people chicken or something. That'd be Carl. I walk like Carl. I walk like Carl. Carl and I have the same gait. But yeah, I love it. So let's start up. Last week, we had a cliffhanger, which is that Kyle stormed off from the table and a chair fell over.

5:02And now we're still there. The chair is still on the ground. Everyone is still eating. And he's now stormed off to the front door. And for those of you who don't remember, it's because Kyle tried to give a public apology to the dinner table after every scene this year has been him and Amanda fighting and ruining kind of everybody's weekend. He decided to kind of ruin a dinner by giving an apology. I mean, it's not ruining it to give it an apology, but, you know, like it's making another dinner about himself, you know. So then he storms out making it about himself again. And, you know, I really like Kyle, but he's a damn mess.

5:36He is a mess. And the thing is this, the reason why he stormed out was because Amanda was just like looking at him with a smile like, oh, of course you're going to do this whole big thing. And then Sierra's laughing. And, you know, Kyle really does throw a temper tantrum when he's trying to have a sincere moment and people giggle, literally have a giggly squad moment. And the truth is that like you did wrong. And so you just have to take it on the chin. So if you're apologizing, but you can't deal with the shit that people give you, then was your apology even sincere? Because I think if you're really apologetic, you're saying, yeah, I get it.

6:14I deserve that. I was a dick. You deserve to laugh at my face. Like, I feel like you really, you're supposed to fall on your sword. Like an apology. That's what it is. And the fact that he's not like that, he's like, wait, you're ruining my big moment. It really highlights the fact that was this sincere or was this just a big moment you're trying to have for the cameras and you're ruining your, and they're ruining his delivery of it. Yeah. I mean, it was rude for them to laugh and stuff and mock him during his, um, you know, his speech or whatever, but I mean, yeah, have a better attitude. Also, you were in trouble because you were drunk and went too far and now you're drunkenly trying to give a speech and then drunkenly storming off.

6:50So yeah, you know, a point, you know, your point is definitely taken. So, um, the rest of the group just keeps eating cause they're used to Kyle. So they're like, Hmm, spaghetti, delicious. Also, I love when young people cook, They're like, I cooked. You made spaghetti. I know. It's like, that's what we do. It's like the worst dad meal, you know? That's like fraternity, like when I was in my frat. Like, guys, we're going to make dinner tonight. And it was either a giant pot of boiled hot dogs or it was just like generic spaghetti and raggedy. Yeah. That is definitely dad's weekend for sure. So now they just keep eating.

7:29And Jesse's like, well, we're off to a hot start, huh? Carl's like, yeah, that lasted about two minutes. That's hilarious. So Amanda's like, he just doesn't need to address the whole table. And Jesse's like, yeah, I mean, he's said so many worse things with way less apologies. Also, he could have apologized to me instead of the whole table. I mean, the problem is with me. Why is he apologizing to the whole table? Where's my apology? so mia's like mia whispers to sierra what happened mia's like what the fuck is going on i was looking at sierra like bitch do you do this every summer but everyone's just like acting like it was normal like people just kept on eating i'm like why are they eating which is made spaghetti okay it's a it's a lame dish but everyone's gonna eat it i've never passed up a spaghetti mia's learning very quickly that this is just what happens on a reality show because in normal life It's like, whoa, someone just stormed off from the table and knocked over a chair.

8:29That's when we normally stop doing everything and be like, what's going on? I don't know. But everyone's just like, whatever. I was raised in that kind of household. We just keep eating. Pass the Parmesan. Listen, I don't get a break from doing the dishes just because someone had a fit and left the table. So I'm going to eat my food. I'm going to eat it. So Kyle is on the porch now. And now there's little chairs on the porch so he can sit there. And he's like kicking Amazon packages over because he's really, really mad. And he's like, I can't imagine just laughing at someone or trying to address a group of friends when he does that.

9:03And Jesse's like, hey, Carl, I think this one's on you, brother. I think you got to go get him. He's like, oh, yeah, I'm going to go check on him. Sorry, I was just carbo-loading before I have to run my 18 miles tomorrow. Oh, marathon. I'm in the mix, guys. One second. Whatever. Just slam the door and let him pout. But he doesn't have to make it a thing. And, like, here he is making it a thing. I'm like, geez, you have to do it right in front of the ring cam, too. Because, of course, Kyle's. Kyle has a fit like me. You know, I still want the attention. I'll go off to myself by myself. But, man, if there is a ring cam there, I'll do it in front of the ring cam.

9:35Because I want you to have to see it later. You know? If I'm going to yell at someone in their home, I'm going to walk right outside the threshold so that I can be on the ring cam. They can always remember me telling them off. And then ring cam will be like, we've found your missing dog. Look at our technology being used for missing dogs It's like Kyle Coates Goes out to the whole neighborhood It's like someone is having a fit in your neighborhood I'm like and another thing Some vault queen is waving his finger So Carl comes out Don't sweat it He's like no man I'm fucking done dude I've stood up for her Non-stop over the years I can't win I literally can't win I can't even apologize without being fucking crucified and being laughed at it, like rubs off on Amanda.

10:21She's just given up. It's like, for once, could Sierra just maybe, maybe just be like a friend to both of us? She's never gone to bat for me. Neither has my wife, by the way. I'm literally all alone. Okay, there's a lot to unpack on this rant because a lot of it is very self-serving and wrong. First of all, Sierra's under no obligation to go to bat for you. There was never any moment where Sierra was considered a closer friend to you than Amanda or as equal friend. She's always been the girl's friend. so like there's no way there's no reason why she should go to bat view also because you're doing the wrong things here at a certain point you have to look around and be like if everyone's telling me this thing maybe i have to look at myself and that and if and the everyone includes sierra so there is that also the um i can't even apologize without being fucking crucified it's like well what have you been doing that's causing people to crucify you where is the accountability there do you ever think to yourself wow i must have really fucked up because people don't even want to hear my apology like where is that introspection yeah i mean this is just a really long way of saying you know she wants me to quit drinking and we're not going to quit drinking then that's it because that's their whole fight is that he's out drinking he's out getting wasted all the time and he doesn't want to hear it he's not going to change it he wants any other answer other than you're drunk all the time that's it he's not going to get that answer and so he's not going to be happy you know and i get it if i want to still go out and drink and party and someone's telling me I drink too much.

11:41They can suck my dick. It's up to me to say when I'm an alcoholic. Now, the problem is he's married and he's got a lot of rumors that he's cheating all the time. Yeah. Sleeping with people. I mean, you know, she's on the right to be pissed. So if he wants to live his life, he's going to just have to be divorced and go live his life, you know, and find some other party animal and just be that weird couple in the hot tub. That's like wasting on vacation trying to fuck another couple. You know, like the SNL couple is like. my lover but just be that you know you're just not built for the rest of this well the thing is what's interesting too about this monologue is that he's kind of implying that if it weren't for the rest of the house and if it weren't for sierra and then maybe there's even a deeper implication that sierra is almost a ringleader of this that a man he and amanda would be fine because he's saying that like they're laughing at me and now it's rubbing off on amanda and this is how she's acting and da da da da da it's like no like you can't blame the house for this situation you can't blame sierra for affecting amanda it's like it's like he's sort of trying to whip up narratives and it's like really sad well yeah because his problem for the past few years and that's you know same thing where giggly squad came from which you mentioned earlier is that the girls openly laugh at him and mock him because he acts like such a baby and amanda's usually trying to stick up for him and be like guys don't make one of my you know and now she's not she's just openly laughing with them yeah he's like what the hell they're they're getting to amanda it's like no i mean amanda's just not sticking up for you like she used to but the reason that people are laughing at you it's the same they always have because you get drunk and act like a toddler it's time for a commercial it's time for a crappin's commercial do you think that amanda and hannah are going to become friends again once this divorce or separation or whatever it is well i guess they're only separated so they could get back together amanda and kyle but if it if it does wind up in divorce do you think amanda and hannah will be friends again this is i know the least pressing question of 2026 but it is i was gonna say i'm trying to like not answer i don't care as much anymore because that's rude like who wants to hear that do you think this and then you're just like i don't care but like honestly i i don't do you guys think that amanda's going to go to Jamba Juice more now that she's separated from Kyle?

14:04Do you guys think that she's going to try to reinvent the Radio Shack brand? Just other questions about what Amanda might do now. There's so many things I don't care about. How many calories are in matcha? I don't care. I'm drinking that. Drinking that green weird shit. Who cares? So, Jesse, says, by the way, guys, he gave a really nice apology earlier to the boys. I thought it was really nice. And then we see a flashback to Kyle holding court with the men and being like, I apologize to you guys. I got really drunk and I said things I regret. It was a great revise. The men do like a group hug.

14:50And so he went out of his way to have a moment with the guys. So it's also kind of funny that he felt he needed to do another public one since he already sort of had a public apology. because he's being the victim he knows he's wrong and he's going to everybody to be a victim that's what people who are wrong do you know it's like we just saw it on below deck last night ben on below deck it's like you you're you're talking down to someone and being an asshole even though she you know granted she wasn't great either but you're being an asshole you're called out for being an asshole so what do you do you start sobbing and talking about how you're the victim because you got dumped once like that's just typical so kyle's doing that he's going to all the guy he's not he's going to everybody but his wife notice he's going to the guys so the guys will be like oh kyle you didn't do anything wrong your wife's a bitch you know which is what he wanted from that which he didn't really get so i was kind of proud of the guys they were just like uh you want a hug or something like why are you crying gross but yeah that's that's what he does so then amanda is back at the table asking my question where's my nice apology you went to everybody else but me so now we go back to carl and kyle and kyle's like i just wanted to get it like it's a type of dinner so we can have fun at the house and it's not every day it's spaghetti oh well i think we can still accomplish that for instance if everyone would be interested in running for 17 miles tomorrow i think that would be very fun from the house but look bro oh i know you're upset i get it i saw the smiling and laughing i thought it was weird too and but i think there's like a way to like i don't know like not give a fuck about that like i don't know like can i just like give you some pretty pat advice that way we'll come back to the table like what's it gonna take bro as now we know how they put these chairs out here whoever owns this house must have a really mean wife who's having to sit out here and talk about the packages hey i'm gonna say something to you that i've seen said to many cats hanging from a branch hang in there hang in there yeah well you hang in there i just had to order amazon in one hour so i'd have someone to complain to i can't wait till he gets here i'm gonna apologize so then uh carl comes back to the table and he was like how pissed is he well he feels like you're totally like fuck you kyle energy and he doesn't really know exactly like where that's coming from a little bit but i just think that he's like incredibly sensitive at the moment some might even say he's feeling a little soft Wes is like oh come on he's okay he's fine no no I mean I don't think this is the same as it usually is he's like yeah he's fine and Jesse's like yeah Wes has seen worse trust me Wes has seen worse from Sierra than Kyle ever has that's true but also I wonder if there's going to be like a generation divide that's going to start to rip open where Kyle is like the the cranky old man of the group and the rest of them are just like the young young whippersnappers who like to dress like preppy Harry Potter every now and then.

17:43So now Kyle is huffing and puffing around the room. I mean, there already is that, isn't there? But they also get along. You're DJing. Okay, Grandpa, don't forget your diaper. But I feel like it's going to start to get bigger and bigger. So back at the table, Levi is like, you know, it's hard for me to go back to normal conversations right now. I'm not going to lie. This is cray cray. Oh, yeah. Let's go back to a normal conversation. Whose pants do you think are the whitest in this house? Say whoever you want. No pressure. How tight is too tight? What do you think of brick and mortar? Go ahead.

18:27If you could run a marathon or if you could run 30 miles, which would you do? Because guess what? 30 miles is actually longer. She's like, Ben, definitely Ben. Of course, it's Ben. And Ben's like, oh, God. Ben's, you know, blushing. I'm uncomfortable being flirted with. I was raised with religion, so therefore I'm uncomfortable being incredibly hot. And he's like, I'm sweating. I don't know what to do. Because Mia says, yeah, Ben's the only right answer. Sorry, everybody else at the table. But Ben is clearly hotter than everybody at this table. Ben does seem kind of out of place at this table.

19:02I mean, he's hot, but he doesn't really say anything. What do you think Ben's thing is? Do you think they just brought Ben on to kind of make Kyle mad and possibly cheat with Amanda and then run away with Amanda and then have a storyline on the city where he's with Amanda? Yes. I think you summed that up very nicely. I think that's it. He's hot. Was I leading the witness? He's hot. And they're going to just see what might shake. And maybe they probably heard or they probably saw stories of him like frolicking with Kyle and Amanda. We're like, ooh, tell us more about this guy. That's what I have to imagine.

19:34but for right now he doesn't have a huge amount of personality he's just attractive so Amanda's like me and Sierra and that's enough that's enough

19:46Amanda's like Amanda and Sierra thank you so much for dinner and Amanda thank you for the entertainment I mean and you guys are welcome for the entertainment I brought the dramatics so now they're done with dinner and they're bringing stuff inside and Kyle it's weird because Kyle had this whole storm out but he never had a moment I thought he was going to have a moment where he'd come back to the table and be like, hey guys, sorry about that. I just had to process. I'm just like really going through a hard time. But instead he just goes, transitions into being a DJ. And they pull out all these live-size cutouts and they make club send it into like a cutout space.

20:19It looks like a blockbuster. It does. You know, like with live-size cutouts of everybody. It's like, oh my God, it's The Rock. Listening to me DJ. Yeah, I think Kyle avoided going back to the table because it was only carbs. We know how Kyle feels about carbs. Unless it's three in the morning and he's shit-faced. Then he loves them. But any other time, he's like, you're going to ask me to sit down and have spaghetti? No, I'm having a temper tantrum. So Wes is like, whoa, it's really cool in here. I was like, yeah, I got these cutouts in here because this way our club always has people in it. I mean, aside from Danielle over here, like cut to Danielle at the window and be like, hey, guys, send it.

20:56Looking for the D. So Sierra's looking at West and she goes, are those my sunglasses? Are you wearing my sunglasses? Take my sunglasses off your sweaty fucking forehead. She like rips them off his face. And I don't know if anybody else got chills, but it was a moment that will haunt West forever, which we find out later. West was really bothered by that. I didn't even clock that as being something horrible. But West is like, dun, dun, dun, and like really seeped in. So Kyle gets on the mic. He's like, all right, I need you guys to move your bodies. So they do. Everybody dances. And then we go to Ben, Amanda, Sierra, Bailey in the kitchen.

21:38And Bailey's asking Ben if he needs help cleaning. And he's like, oh, sure. Loading the dishwasher, sure. Come on. Oh, wait a minute. Not in that dress, young lady. You look way too nice to help with dishes. Please. Let me. The gentleman. Let me do that for you. And Sierra just turns to Amanda and goes, somebody fuck him. Somebody please. He's too hot. Do it. Someone's got to do it. Yeah, well, somebody better, Bailey. She's like, somebody better fuck that guy. Sierra says, well, one of the four of us. I mean, there's four of us here. Someone's got to do it. They're like, all four? What? All four of us should do it.

22:14I mean, even if I was married, I'd be like, you have to understand. He needs to be fucked. Okay? He would eat this wheat green. so uh carl and kj make an agreement that they're gonna go uh running in the morning and they seal it with a fist bump because why not be have an insufferable moment and then um everyone goes to the kitchen and west starts talking to amanda and he's like hey um i was thinking that the knights are like uh they're going really good and then sierra will just like she'll just like sneak in one of those like really fucking those things that's just like really fucking hurts my feelings like sunglasses on my sweaty forehead yeah flashback to get my sunglasses off your sweaty fucking forehead he's like oh i just don't know if we're friends or like if we're flirting or if like she hates me i don't fucking know like she could be joking and i could just like i don't know maybe i'm being a wiener or she could mean it i'll never know because like we don't talk about anything so i just have to like feel the vibe out and i'll never know oh god west with his innocent little i'm just a little boy and like you pointed out his harry potter suit that he's wearing like a prep school a prep school like pinstripe shirt with like a a very prep school tie and these glasses it's like a very effective modern preppy look i know modern preppy is in but like this is like this is taking it too far yeah and i just i'm not buying it i don't think he's hateable i don't think west is hateable and he's really kind of overcompensating for it last year.

23:42Last year you did a stupid thing. You got called out for it. I know it hurt your feelings all year, but you're making Sierra sound like a terrorist. It's like, I don't know. Can we negotiate? I'm just a nice little boy. Not buying it. So Amanda tells him, you're still on probation. And now it's time to get a car to go to Common Ground. Our favorite new place, Common Ground. Hey, guys. I'm going to get a car. I'll be the one to do it because I'm downstairs and I'm in the mix. I'm in the mix, everyone. I'm going to get a car. Thank God I wasn't upstairs because I might not have heard that they're getting a car to go to Common Ground.

24:25Common Ground. Well, so I can get an Uber Black, an Uber XL, Uber X, or Uber in the mix. That's the one I'm going to select. We're taking that one. It's a dollar more, but it's worth it. uh sierra and jesse are in bed talking and he's like um i want you to know i just held in a fart for you it's like um thanks she's like am i supposed to say thank you he goes yeah because now i've got a tummy ache so like answer one of the answers to what would jesse solomon do the answer is hold in a fart so then we go to west and kyle and um they're they're like joking around with Lindsay's cutout and everything.

25:06And then Carl's making it look like it's giving Carl a handjob. Yeah. And then Bailey asks Ben if he's going to go out and he's like, probably. And you know, I'll see where the wind may take us. Oh my God, don't look at me. I'm so embarrassed to be hot and talking about wind. Oh my God, he just said he's going to wait to see where the wind takes us. He's a fucking poet. He is just so deep. So then... My bra just unsnapped itself. Hey, me all. Thanks so much for the cooking. It was really delicious. And I just want you to know that I appreciate you making this food fresh instead of using a mix.

25:45That's where I am. I'm in it. Hey, man, you can come out of this to come and ground. It's like, no, I'm going to bed by yourself. Yeah. I go to bed by myself every night, Kyle. I don't have a husband. He's ever home. Oh, okay. Sorry. I mean, speak about us. Okay. look fine i didn't mean to speak about it i didn't mean to get drunk and i'm sorry for talking about our sex life i'm sorry for talking about the cleanliness of our apartment i'm sorry for talking about you behind your back okay there there there's your apology thank you thank you but all of a sudden i mean i tried to talk to you about it multiple times last week no you didn't kyle you're such a liar you didn't try to talk to me at all why well like what you do is you complain and you pout so you're not like welled off no you're not like high tired and every excuse she's like kyle i I don't smoke until the dogs go out for their last walk at night after 10 p.m.

26:36And you have all day to talk to me. Do not blame me for getting high after 10.30 p.m. That's like first thing in the morning. What's the hell? So I have conversations then. I just work in the day. You know, they're tired. And they still talk. It's like, Kyle, oh, my God. The earliest I ever get high is 10.30, Kyle. Well, okay, listen, if you're in a marriage where you have to, like, justify when you're smoking your dupe, it's time to go. Yeah. You should never have to justify that. Good as go. And also his response, adults work during the day, is first of all so fucking condescending. But also when he's like, oh, but they're tired afterwards.

27:15So then why is it that, like, if he only wants to talk to her after 1030, isn't that after 1030 when a lot of also adults feel very tired? I don't understand what the issue is here. I mean, it doesn't make sense. Like you can have a conversation at 8 o 'clock. And the fact that you've been splitting hairs over, you know, 8 o 'clock versus 1030 is ridiculous. If there's something that's a real issue, you carve out the time no matter what. Or you stay in for one night and have this conversation. They have this conversation so many times and it just never goes anywhere because he's not going to change it.

27:49It's the same thing. And I feel like we have the same conversation over and over because they have the same conversation over and over. and now we're forced to do it. And now I'm like, are we getting divorced? Like, what is even happening? Common ground. Guys, remember to find some common ground. But Kyle's like, oh, man, I see I'm just trying to apologize to you and you fucking make it into a fight. Okay, Kyle, the fight is you go out and get wasted too much and don't pay attention to your wife, okay, and don't talk to her about things. So now what are you doing? You're going out wasted with your friends and not being with your wife to talk.

28:21Right. What are you not understanding, Kyle? It's very on the nose. It's crazy. Also, I was watching this on YouTube TV, and this entire part of the conversation was cut off for some reason. So I'm really glad that we were able to get to the bottom of it for me. I can understand how the scene ended. So now they all go out to common ground hole, and they're partying and having fun times. And then Mia's boyfriend, Scott, calls her, and they're FaceTiming. And she says that Scott's her boyfriend. They met through mutual friends. He owns a restaurant in New York and LA and now in Miami. And he's the hardest working man that she knows.

28:58She loves that about him and makes him insane. And then they're like, but does he travel a lot? And she's like, oh my God, don't get him in trouble. Don't make me call him and get into a fight with him. Don't strike a chord right now, okay? I'm like, you better be quiet because otherwise the producers are going to sense blood in the water and they're going to destroy your relationship right now. They're going to force you to bring him onto the show and he's not going to want to. He's going to have to make work sacrifices and it's going to cause a strain. we've been down this path before be careful mia be careful i'm getting danielle vibes only because that's right that chef yeah that's what i'm saying but he's never home um yeah so i worry but they do seem like a good couple and we can tell when they're talking because he's like what are you doing she's like nothing what are you doing he's like nothing i'm gonna watch netflix and she's like don't you watch our show without me that's a good couple right there oh 100 and he's like no I'm going to watch mission impossible.

29:49And she was like, good. I don't want to fucking watch that. I literally don't care about mission impossible. You watch that. Yeah. They'll be together forever. So then we go to Sierra knocking on Amanda's door and checking on her. And she's like, man, moments like this is like, I just don't forget about it. Like I act like I do, but I'm just like, well, it makes me nervous. Like, how are you going to treat our children? And that's a really good point. Sierra's Sierra says, well, like if they don't see it from your point of view, are you just going to like storm out of the room? Yeah. And like slam your hand on the dinner table.

30:17and she's saying, you know, I'm not saying, Sierra says, I'm not saying Kyle's a bad guy, but you do deserve better. And Amanda's like, yeah, you're right. I don't know. Sometimes I just, I don't know if I'd be good enough for someone else. And Sierra's like, what? Amanda, why do you think that? And she's like, I don't know. So Sierra starts crying. I feel like Sierra's such a good girlfriend. She did this to Paige last year also when Paige was talking about her issues and Sierra started to cry on her behalf. I think she's so empathetic to her friends and I think that's wonderful. And she's saying, you know, you're so special and you're so kind and you love so fiercely and you are so loyal and then they hug.

30:52I think Kyle's going to love having kids because he's not going to be the only one in the house with a bottle in his hand constantly. He's going to be like, see, it's okay for them. What's good for the goose is good for the gander. I can totally see Kyle being a suburban dad. I can see him being the one who has like a baby strapped to his front and his back at the same time and he's doing all the things. He's got the grill and he's doing all the suburban dad stuff. But I can also see Kyle being one of those guys who gets competitive with his children in terms of like, you know, there's a there's an issue where when a baby comes along, the husbands feel very jealous about the attention.

31:27And I can imagine Kyle being like, why is it OK if the baby poops his diapers? But if I like, oh, I make a spill, suddenly I'm a bad guy. Like I can imagine having those arguments. Oh, so the baby's allowed to pee in the pool, but I'm not. Thanks, Amanda. Yeah, I guess it wouldn't be jealousy. I guess it's jealousy. I don't know, but whatever it is, I can imagine Kyle having false equations with the babies all the time. I think the babies are going to be jealous of Kyle. They're going to be like in kindergarten. They're going to be like, why do I look older than my father? How does he not age?

31:58That's true. Kyle, the ageless beauty. The kids are going to be asking for some of his stem cells. Yeah. So Sierra wants to save Amanda from this, but Amanda can only save herself. Okay. And now everybody comes home. And Romano's like, whoa, I was next door because I live in the Hamptons, also part of the year. And I heard you crying. And I just want you to say, you're worth more than you're giving yourself credit for, okay? Boy. Listen, I'm coming here to tell you. And listen, this was hard for me to get over here, okay? Because let's face it. I live on the other side of the freeway, okay? I live on a nicer side of town than you.

32:34That's it. But I came to the slums to tell you, you deserve better. Ageless by Romano. I'm ageless. And this wisdom is ageless. Okay. So Sierra is just like, if you ever need to talk, just like, let me know. And Sierra says, if I could shake Amanda and get her to step out of her body and look at herself from my point of view and everyone else's point of view, I feel like we could find her. Yeah. A new husband in a year. I was like, damn. That's harsh. Might be true. That's also pretty confident for someone who dates in New York. Like to be like, oh, yeah, you can just find another husband in a year.

33:13Because I feel like this whole show is about how it's so hard dating in New York. But you know what? Amanda's a catch. And I think she could probably find something pretty easily. Well, and your whole life shouldn't be predicated on that anyway. But she's, yeah, obviously Amanda's a catch. Commercials. Here comes one right now. So they all come home. Everybody goes to the pool. And they're making noise. And Amanda's like, ah. And then the next morning, Carl and KJ are going for their run. Oh, I guess we're going to find some common ground together. Really love that place. Love that place. Oh, I'll race you to common ground.

33:57So Carl goes up to Amanda. She's in bed. And he's like, hey, Amanda, I'm going to go for a run. OK, I'll be back. And she's like, OK. That's it? I mean, I assume you'll be coming back, right? He's like, yeah, God. Can't even get love from my wife when I'm about to leave for a run. Just go. Yeah, just go. So then Bailey and Levi are in bed. And Bailey's like, what are your thoughts on the last night's dinner? And Levi's like, dude, this is clearly complicated. I don't know if this is me speaking or the concussion from the goat hoof that I have. But this is me last night. Left, right, left, right.

34:32You know, she starts doing like a tennis match face. And Bailey's like, I just don't feel like it's all that confusing. I was in a relationship where I was always screaming in the front yard and we were always storming away from meals. And so I've been there. But I feel like they're both like, oh, it's a big fuck you every single time. And I'm just like, well, this isn't productive at all. And unless you have a sweet green, there's no point of even fighting. I like that the sweet green wasn't a one-time thing because she says they were always leaving restaurants fighting. Don't fight during your meals.

35:01I mean, really putting a new definition on fast casual, right? They were like, how many Panera breads and sweet greens and cavas did they make a total scene out of? Exactly. Can one salad place be peaceful? I know. Well, I do see myself in a band and it's very challenging to watch. I can't even deal with that again. Like, I mean, that kind of passion. Look at it. Look at that passion. I need sweet in a relationship. I need green in a relationship. Ben could be that person. Could be, maybe, possibly. No. Ben's not that person. Oh, are you? I hear you talking about me. I'm so modest. So then Carl and KJ, we ran to common ground.

35:44And then we ran back. We're back, everyone. We're back. And Ben, Amanda, and Carl are in the kitchen. And Carl's like, so my cardboard cutout kind of freaks me out a little bit. It's like a little scary. A little scary. I wish someone could hug me. Harder. Harder. Hug me. And Amanda's like. I did a double take when I saw Lindsay. I was like, oh, my God. It's not her. I head under the couch. I started calling Lil. I was like, I'm sorry. It's been a long time, but please, please hug me. Hug me, Lil. Hug me. I just started making a sandwich out of real insert hole. So Amanda's like, well, I kind of want to put one outside of Wes's door.

36:20Imagine waking up to this. So then she takes the cut out of Ben, and she actually winds up putting it outside of what's-her-face's, Bailey's door. So then Jesse and Sierra are in her room, and Sierra's like, hey you want to help me pick out my outfit okay i've got a blue number and then there's this one or there's this skirt are you holding in another fart maybe but like hey is that top gonna cover those boobs she's like don't worry about that i've got that under control he's like yeah because i'm pretty partial towards the bright colors you know i also like the size of the top with being so small on a potential nip slip so then amanda puts the cut out of ben outside the door and bailey and And Levi are coming out of their room and like, oh, my God.

37:05He's like, oh, my God. I almost peed. I love him. He's the one. Get him. They do bring the cutout inside. She's like, well, this is as close as I'll probably get. So it'll have to do. Now we go back to Sierra and Jesse and Mia's with them now. And Sierra's like, did you meet anyone at Common Ground? Just keep saying Common Ground. Jesse's like, oh, I'm not with the girl I've been talking to. But, you know, I just don't like I need more. I need more there. You need a spark. I need a spark. So Mia asks him what his type is. And he's like, historically, you know, I need nice, normal girlies. I'm open to a relationship.

37:41I'm just trying not to look for it, you know, but I've been single for a while. And so she asks how long it's here. I was like, oh, my God, like a year, please. And he's like, no, come on. I mean, I was with Lexi for eight weeks. That wasn't a real relationship. Come on. Oh, Lexi and her mother and her sister at home right now are like, how dare he? like putting on like a ton of lip liner I love that they keep on showing that clip of him when on the first weekend like two days after he met her he goes I love her I mean I think I mean I love her so I literally love her like really don't you think it's a little soon he's like she's nice she's pretty like I literally love her

38:26it's just such a funny thing so sierra is like okay i'm just making that you know that you've only been single for years yeah but my last girlfriend was in 2019 so she said you know what i think would be actually good for you try dating someone the complete opposite of what you think your type is try dating someone who's a little more fiery someone who's gonna talk back and have an opinion a very strong opinion i'm like sierra it sounds like you're kind of describing yourself no offense yeah that's what she says She's like, yeah, I mean, I'm basically giving characteristics of myself. He likes that I don't let him get away with anything.

39:01And he likes a girl telling him what to do. So find a girl that's like that. That's, you know, maybe me, maybe not me. Whatever. She kind of hints and winks at the audience. Am I in love with Wester Jesse? Am I audience? Am I? I know who I'm going to hook up with. Ben. God, he's handsome. Not my usual type because he's a man. But you know what? Let's go for it. Oh my God, don't talk about me. I'm so modest. No. So it's going to be a beach day, which means Kyle is packing speaker. And Jesse's doing pushups off the side of the car. He's like, oh, I need to get Jack for the beach. And then they're taking coolers over to the sand.

39:43And then there's like frolicking, et cetera. And putting on suntan lotion. And then at one point we see Levi. Levi's like, oh my God, look at those three divas. and they're matching swimsuits and they're just like these three girls who are doing like a TikTok thing where they're like all at the sand and they're like lifting up sand and showering themselves in the sand. It was so stupid. Now Amanda and Sierra are on the beach chairs and Amanda's like, I don't like how much fun the boys are having. They're getting along. Like, what can we do to start drama between them? So Kyle and KJ. Well, by the way, Sierra goes, they'll never fight each other, which I think was a foreshadowing because we know that Carl and Kyle have a fight.

40:23later this season with blood. And it's ugly. It's an ugly one. We couldn't find common ground. Let's just say that. Kyle and KJ are watching the other guys, and Kyle's like, God, I'm impressed with these guys. I mean, I just don't have energy. I mean, we already got our exercise, KJ, because we were running. Remember that? He's like, yeah. I'm going to go pound it Celsius. I was like, whoa, whoa, whoa, what? Wow. So you're allowed to talk about other beverages. Was Celsius also the beverage that Craig was backing? I thought so. Or was it the one that Hannah was backing back in the day? I feel like somebody backed that and they got in trouble.

41:03Wow. Wow. So Kyle and Cage are sitting in chairs and Cage is like, damn, I'm just trying to run another night like last night. You know? Wow. You know? And Kyle's like, oh, fuck no. What? You said fuck no. Kyle, I'm sorry. Interrupting. Craig Conover faced conflict with Kyle Cook for partnering with Spritz Society. Spritz, of course, the Spritz fight. Okay, I'm going to look up Hannah. Okay, go ahead. I'll interrupt you again. Well, Kyle basically says he's not going to stay in. He's going to be home by midnight. And KJ says, I want to be one of those lads this summer, like one of the boys, you know, because they don't catch feelings.

41:39And like Wes and Jesse will be out at the club, like 10 girls around him just like chilling. Like, I wish I could just be like that. Because I know traditionally it's not usual for a guy my age to think that being single is a challenge. But for me it is. Shout out to all the lover boys. I'm like, sir, you're not contractually allowed to say that unless you have a deal with my boy. That is trademarked. Even Kyle's not saying that anymore. Yeah, seriously. KJ seems so sweet. I don't know that I believe him yet because he's a new guy on Summer House. So the jury is still out. I'm buying it so far.

42:12He seems adorable. But his whole like right when I get on TV and now is the time I don't want a relationship. I don't know. But so far he seems really nice and I do like him. Hannah Berner got in trouble with Kyle because she was doing a Truly ad. So Celsius wasn't even there, guys. But Celsius has seeped into our brains somehow. Maybe Kyle wants to be bought by Celsius. So he's going to start saying nice things about them. Like, oh, I love Celsius. Let's get Celsius up big so they want to buy Blubber Boy. Fahrenheit's like.

42:44Our drink is only accepted in a few countries. Everyone else wants Celsius. Celsius thinks they're so standard.

42:57So KJ is going to take advantage of summer. Now we see West feeding Kyle a little snack, snackaroonie. And Kyle is like, I feel like this is reminiscent of our relationship. What, me feeding you stuff? Or how are you feeling? Or hey, are you okay? You feel okay? What's Sierra mean to you too? He's like, no. The only reason I want to address everyone was because I can have a whole house. And it felt like a bit like it was an elephant in the room. You know what I'm saying? Oh, God. Please don't apologize for the apologizing now. It's like every day is not about you, Kyle. And should I go apologize to the little group because I apologized yesterday and made it awkward because I had everybody apology for the other day?

43:38Yeah. He's like, well, it's like almost like an overcorrection. kind of like when Sierra ripped the sunglasses off my face. And then it was like, it was like, you're overcorrecting. And then Sierra was like laughing, made you like fucking crash out, bro. And I think that like you made it like by making it like a grand gesture. You're like making a public apology. And that's like a bigger gesture for a man. I think she just wants it like intimate. And then it's like, it's big. So it's like a fucking shit storm. So it's like, it's like a lot, you know, I'm scared. So I should do it over the speakers is what you're saying.

44:11I'm going to do it in the middle of my next DJ show The Gump So now Jesse does Like does the dirty dancing lift With Sierra Sierra runs up to Jesse and he like lifts her up Etc. So Kyle's like I'm doing it for Kyle So Kyle Goes and runs up to Carl And Carl cannot do it And they just collapse I do not work my upper body So Kyle's like man Is there any way I could take you to our favorite place? The Apology Dune? Come on, let's go. And then we see a flashback to Apology Dune. And most of them are Kyle, let's face it. One of them is Maya and Lindsay. And then we see Kyle and Paige and then Jesse and Sierra.

44:54But I think a lot of these have been Kyle. Yeah, the editors do a nice job of trying to spread the Dune around. But we know that there were more than just three summers, three apologies at this Dune. it's been 10 years of apologies at that dune and almost all of them have been kyle kyle and amanda mainly so um kyle and they go to the they go to apology dune because like all right right here so this is usually where i confess my feelings and i know i tried last night i know i came out like oh so i'm not a justification or excuse but like i really do think that we need to like work on our communication she's like yeah well i've asked you questions and i try to check in And he was like, no, but I want to feel like we're on the same page.

45:36Notice how part of working on communication is that when you respond like that, I just ignore it completely and just keep talking about what I was going to say in the first place. That's good communication right there, Amanda. Yeah, but like I try to check on you, Kyle. But I want to feel like we're on the same page. Oh, God, why did I just say page? She was mean to me, too. I want to feel that way, too, but I'm not going to do things for you when you're not doing things for me. Like, I need you to get your drinking under control, Kyle, and you're fully aware of that. Well, I only drink when I'm social.

46:05So I'm a very social person. So you're mad at me for being social now? What am I in trouble for being social? God. That's a problem for me, Kyle. I don't want to babysit you. I don't want people to feel like they have to keep an eye on you. I need to know that, like, my husband's responsible enough to go out on his own and come back. Yeah, but last night I went out, I was, like, the least fucked up person that was there, I think. Pretty sure. But the weekend before you weren't, Kyle. Yeah, but I was in a horrible place. What don't you understand? I told you going into the summer, if we can't literally physically get our shit together, like we literally can't grab the poop out of the toilet physically with our hands.

46:46I'm going to have a mental breakdown. And what did I do? I had a mental breakdown. Okay, here we go. So now it's her fault you drink because you warned her. You warned her if you don't, if you're not nice to me, even though I don't really deserve it, I'm going to have a mental breakdown, which leads to me drinking. Kyle, it's another thing. Oh, you only drink when you're social. Oh, no. Now you drink when you're social and when you're having mental breakdowns. And Amanda's causing you to have a mental breakdown. So you're giving yourself a lot of reasons there. And I hate, you know, I really do believe it's someone's own choice when they call themselves an alcoholic.

47:21You know, a lot of people are alcoholics and they're called functioning alcoholics and they get through life fine. So you live your life how you want. But you're involving someone else. And when you have to sit there and make excuses through entire conversations, and then when that excuse doesn't work, come up with another excuse. And then you're blaming the other person for yourself drinking. Girl, you're in trouble. You know, last week I was saying, you know, Amanda, we've always been saying like one of her fatal flaws is that it seems like she's always wanted to change somewhat like change Kyle.

47:52And like part of being in a relationship and marrying someone is accepting them for who they are. And I do still believe that. I do also think it's reasonable to ask your partner to not drink as much. I think that is a reasonable ask. I do too. Especially when they're out fucking people and making out with people and all over, you know, social media getting caught. Yeah. It's not changing who Kyle is to cut back on the drinking. There is a way for him to drink and party and be responsible. But I think she's shown him a lot of grace with this whole thing. And like, it's just, it's not an over ask.

48:27It's not, that does not fall in the category of trying to change who he is or what he likes, what he wants. I mean, I still do think that like she, she has for many years been hoping that he will stop being the social person that he is. And that's not who he is. And so I think she will always find a problem with that, not problem, but she will always, she won't get what she wants from that pursuit. But I do think it's reasonable to ask him to not drink as much because he can still be social and not drink as much um and it's not going very well yeah it's not like policing somebody for having a couple of drinks you know yeah like sometimes somebody gets sober in a relationship and it's like well why don't you get sober i'm sober when you're drinking and that's shoving it in my i mean that's that's a different story you know but getting shit faced so bad that you're falling asleep and not coming home till six in the morning and not remembering who you make out with and stuff like that which is all those are all real kyle storylines yeah that's when it's bad so she's like well so now i mental breakdowns are an excuse so everything i've put off with the in the in the off season too and he's like what you put up with amanda she's like you're drinking and the rumors and the coming home late and don't oh god me well i only i only want to talk if we can make progress so if we can't make right you won't tell me well you're upset i'm upset about your drinking all right so you're not going to tell me you're just not going to tell me it's your drinking kyle okay just be quiet about it i guess i'm not going to get Amanda's not going to talk to me about it or everything.

49:56Apparently we can't have good communication. So Amanda's like, but she's like, she says, you don't like hearing what my issue is. You shut down every time I tell you that my issue is with you drinking and you put a wall up. And she really has kind of just, no pun intended, distilled it down to this. It really is just about drinking for her now. Before it was a lot of stuff. It was like, you know, this, da, da, da, da. Now she's just like, I just want you to stop drinking. At this point, all the other things I don't even care about anymore. I just want you to stop drinking as much. And so he's like, you're so laser focused on this because that's where my anger stems from.

50:33And you get upset when I tell you. He goes, Amanda, the second we got engaged, you started saying no to everything. Well, then why did you go through the wedding then? They shouldn't have. And everybody said it at that time, too, because that time it was the same thing. It's like, Kyle. Well, it was also that he was working all the time. But I think the problem with the working all the time was that his work was drinking. His work was going to these lover boy parties and it was the same thing. He's just added DJing into the mix. So he has another excuse to keep doing it because it's always been him and Carl were going, you know, traveling the country and going to all these parties that they were setting up for lover boy and getting shit faced with the fans.

51:11And that was the problem then. So it was like working too much. So then he found another excuse to kind of keep doing it. But it's always been the same thing. And so that is why I think that it is kind of valid to say, like, I mean, you did marry him knowing exactly who he was. And I think all of us do that. I mean, I didn't get married, but, you know, we've all been with people where we're like, you know, this is just I can change him. You know, this is just temporary. But, yeah, it doesn't work. So he's all upset. And he's like, oh, Sonia, you're just you're going to you know what? You just want to talk about my drinking?

51:43You don't even ask me. Here's what I have a problem with Compatibility, chemistry, intimacy I don't know, common interest Common ground, we're going to common ground We're taking the car, we're running You know, it's been like days, weeks, months Where you don't ask me a single question You've been out of town for six months You just said it yourself I also hate this, like you don't ask me a single question Like I just can't believe that Yeah, she does ask you a single question When are you going to stop drinking? When are you home? Where are you? I don't know who I'm married anymore. I can't even remember.

52:20Probably because I'm drinking. Hey, is that what you're coming to talk about? You know what, Amanda? You're driving me to drink. You're driving me to drink. So now it's her fault again. First of all, that's such, like, that's so bad to say that. Because also, like, you're in charge of your own things. Also, if someone is driving to drink, then you have a drinking problem. You're not drinking for the right reasons then. If you're dealing with the stress in your relationship by drinking, then that means you have a bad relationship with alcohol in that moment, sir. So sorry, but that's the truth.

52:51And she's just like, I also just love how he's like, oh, like he's sort of make it seem like her complaint about the drinking is just some trivial, easy thing. She's just going to lob out there for the cameras when he's like, I got all these issues. And like, oh, okay. You just want to say for drinking. I'm like, drinking is not nothing. like drinking like if it was just drinking that would be enough for there to be a crisis if there was if there was a situation going on it's not like just it's not like saying oh okay the issue is that i don't wash the rugs enough it's like okay well that seems like a petty thing that amanda's bringing up but drinking is not a petty issue if it's if it's causing this much strife yeah but nobody's gonna listen to that until they're ready you can't just tell somebody you're an alcoholic and then they're like oh i am an alcoholic i'm gonna change it's just not how it works.

53:38I've never known it to work like that. It doesn't, people don't believe it until they come upon that decision for themselves. And frankly, when he does, that's his storyline and he's not going to give it to her right now.

53:51I'm not even saying he's an alcoholic. What I'm saying is that like, he's doesn't sound like he's using alcohol in a healthy way. No, I'm saying he's probably an alcoholic and that's why he's like this. I mean, I don't care. I mean, I think he is because he's got everything he's saying, all the evasiveness and all the freaking out and all the trying to blame it on her and blame it on everything and refusing to talk about it. I mean, that is a serious sign of addiction. And he's not going to be able to do that until he does it. And you can't stay with somebody if you're not willing to deal with it because they're not going to change.

54:22That's just how it is. So she's got to get out of there. So while he's saying he has all these issues with her, she's just clarified it down to drinking. She's just like, she just can keep it really simple and keep it down to one thing. And he's just kind of like, oh, fine. You just want to say is that he's basically saying that she's being reductive. And it's like, yeah, but like, that's your reductive down to something pretty big. So this is a, the conversation does not end well. And everyone's watching, by the way, they're all set. They're all sat like in a semicircle watching Apology Dune.

54:55And everyone's watching like, oh God, this is bad. This is good. Cause you know, the body language is terrible. Kyle's doing the thing where he's like, he's doing the thing with a hand chop into a palm, you know, and Amanda's shaking her head. Kyle's like, you know what? How about maybe get some curiosity, drive, intention, personality, fucking make it about my drinking. Give me a fucking break. I'm like, you're being so shitty to Amanda right now. On TV, ugh. That's just, oh my God. It's just, it's hard to watch. And it's also annoying because it's yet another episode. It's the fourth episode now.

55:29that is all about them and their stupid fight that they've been having 10 years. You know, Kyle is a drunk. Amanda has always known that Kyle is a drunk. And this is like, what are you doing? Just stop. Enough. And stop making us deal with it every episode. And I feel like the cast feels like that, too. Because they're just like, oh, Jesus Christ. They're just watching it like, oh, God, another fucking... It's the whole season of this, you know? So he's still... Now he's yelling at a producer, like, I'm not going to do it. I'm sitting here. I'm being labeled a fucking alcoholic on national television because like somehow that's all our problems.

56:01You know, I find I'm not going to go out. I'm not going to DJ me. What else do you want me to quit? The alcohol. What are you not hearing? I know. It's like she really has spelled it out so clearly. She says it like over and over and over again. He just won't hear it. You're drunk. And the problem, the other problem that they they're going to get a divorce. So they're not going to get to this problem is that when he finally says, OK, I'll stop drinking. And then he completely changes because that's someone that you don't even know. That person, that sober person, you don't even know that person.

56:34And you've never even had an argument probably with that person. And from everything they've said on this show, when Kyle is sober during the week, well, used to be, when he was sober during the week, he was very serious and humorless. Remember? Right. That was like his whole thing. We talked to him years ago, back when we were first starting, we had him on. And he was like that. He was like, duh. So what do you guys think? And he'd be like, well, the like, he's just a different person. He's very boring. I mean, he's like very like low. I know you shouldn't say that to somebody because that's a that's a of people to quit drinking.

57:05You know, they're boring, you know, so I know I get that that's terrible. But when you're relying on alcohol or drugs or something to give you a personality, it's not real anyway. So but yeah, he's a different person. So that's like you're now you're going to be married to someone that you don't even know, which is like boring, stern, Kyle. He's also in like a double toxic situation. One is the base level toxicity of reality TV, where you do feel the pressure to be really fun, entertaining, et cetera. And then also he is in the pressure cooker of being an entrepreneur. And he's not a tech bro, but I feel like he's tech bro adjacent.

57:42He's in this circle of people doing startups and trying to get them going and trying to sell them. And that's really, really hard. And the third one, aging. just general like pretty boy aging you know it's like oh shit you know everybody else is married and everybody else is like having kids and i still want to be out partying and i'm now i'm partying with 25 year olds like i'm 20 year olds when i go to all these bars across the country and like but that's all i want to do and like am i aging out and you know yeah so he's basically in a crucible you know what let's just throw in some residual stress from the traders he probably has that lingering around they probably got rid of one of his favorite beverages at you know Yeah, that's number four.

58:24Let's not forget number five. Hannah did ads for Truly. And I'm sure that that's called. Uh-huh. Bird Dogs. Bird Dogs seems to actually be doing pretty well. I think he like got out of his stake with that company. Catbird, Catdog, whatever it was called. Bird Dogs. I think, was it called Bird Dogs? I think it was. Where he's like, are you guys sick of wearing underwear? You don't have to anymore. Because these kind of have underwear in them. So you could just move your balls around. And then the commercials were him like moving his balls around. And be like, yeah, it's better. yeah people forget there was a life before lover boy on the show um so west is watching him and he's like he's such a fucking baby sometimes my god it says west who spent all of last season pouting how's a pout god and then i know west he's still walking around this season like am i still grounded tiptoe god and carl goes whoa looks like carl's having another hard time again I was like, you think, Carl?

59:20Thanks. Welcome to the beach. So Amanda now starts talking to this producer. And she's like, I've done this for years. I've had this conversation every single summer. It's the same shit. Like, why am I even going to do things for you that you would ask for when you can't do the one thing I'm asking for? Why am I going to show you respect when I don't get a return? And then people are like, Levi's like, Sierra, I think she might be crying. You should speak to her. And Sierra's like, well, she's talking to Trish, the producer. So she's like, basically can't go over to Amanda while she's talking to Trish.

59:45So they just have to watch Amanda crying over there. And she goes, well, look at that boy. He's so cute. And he's like, where? Where's her cute boy? She goes, the bird. I'm talking about the bird. Ben Totter. Check out this guy. Ben Totter. It's official. So now Kyle, the producers get them to go talk to each other again. So they come back and say, I'm sorry, man. You know, we've gotten this far and I love you. It just makes me so sad and depressed. which means i need a drink so blame blame this situation she's like same guy all same i'm hurt every day like i feel like i'm going crazy i keep telling you what my problem is and then you ask me what you need from me it's like well you know i'm just like a social person so like the second we get married the second we get engaged she goes but i didn't think a social person meant cheating kyle and there it is and now it's back so i mean that's the thing kyle cheating on amanda ultimately poisoned this relationship justifiably.

1:00:49And they tried to work through it and everything, but the moment that he's getting wasted and the moment he's staying over at people's places, all that hard work comes undone. It's all coming rushing back. And it's just adding more shit to the toilet. And he's still doing it. And we knew it when it happened then. I think everybody who was, it's not like we're psychic, but I think everybody who was watching knew it back then too. the problem wasn't even that you cheat once and you get caught and then you apologize and you move on the problem was he cheated and then he said i didn't i don't remember i didn't cheat i don't remember that's not that doesn't count and that's how he got off on that one and so that's a real problem because he's getting himself constantly in the situation where he doesn't remember he's like i'm too wasted so i didn't remember so it doesn't count so yeah and she's getting all these dms and what does he say i don't i don't know i don't remember i don't remember any of that she's like i'm getting dms like every day kyle like what the fuck is it every day i mean does everybody is everybody else's boyfriend having this problem where they're getting dms every time they go out i don't think so like something's going she's like not even and she says she's not even bringing up the dms anymore she so she holds on to that herself which i can't imagine is very easy i mean that's that's really hard to just be getting dm over dm after dm after dm about how your husband was seen in this place or that place with this girl and amanda's like you know the producer says do you think that he's cheated on you and she goes um i don't know i'd like to think not but he has in the past and i know there have been plenty of rumors about it so who knows only kyle and like you just you can see she has thrown in the white flag is up she's thrown in the towel she's just she's checked out she's checked out she's like you know what only kyle knows i'm sick of it.

1:02:38You can tell she can't even be bothered to even speculate anymore. I'm breaking up of this relationship. I'm sick of talking about it. It's been like, I feel like I've talked about this for four straight solid hours and I'm just tired of it. You guys, you made bad decisions. Get over it. Now get out. Please, get out. Save yourselves. So they apologized to each other and say they still love each other, blah, blah, blah. KJ falls off his chair and now they go home. And so now it's 5.29 p.m. Almost common ground time. In the mix. So Ben and West are sitting in the, they're standing by the car. They're not going inside.

1:03:12And they're like, should we get chips? Snacks? But they're in the back. Should we get them? I don't know. I mean, just like weirdos. What are you fuckers doing? You're so weird. You're just standing by the car. Are they vampires? You need to be invited in. So Ben's like, Christian, I'm going to be ordering some sushi. Oh my God. Somebody fuck him immediately. What a gentleman. Oh my God. I hope they have a, I'm so embarrassed in modest role. If there's dinner to be had, I'll be in attendance. This is my favorite time of year. I love the summer. Kyle and I need space. You know, I don't want to fight with my husband in front of everyone, you know.

1:03:51So we just need space from each other, basically. So she's going to do something and Kyle's going to go with the other side of the house. And Bailey, Levi, and Amanda are getting ready. And Bailey's like, if I saw a woman wearing this bow on her shirt like I'm wearing right now, Would you be like, oh, my God, did you see that girl with the giant bow? And Jesse's like, I mean, that is bigger than your average bow. It's a pretty big bow. It is. It's huge. It's an enormous, enormous bowl. It is. It looks like a big cauliflower on the front of her shoes. I, they say wear a bra. I said, I'll wear a brassicas.

1:04:26So Sierra then is, Sierra, the cars come. Sierra goes running through the house to get a sip of a martini and they leave. And then, uh, so the group is into some stay and have sushi. Some go out to have dinner at Calissa. One of our favorite stops, almost as good as Julan. So, uh, then other people are getting ready and Bailey is like, um, is it me? And is it me and you since we already got ready? Like I'll just sit on the couch with you right now. Hey, Bailey, let's have a conversation about ourselves. Okay. Because the perfect weather, do this. You know what? Here's something about me. I will definitely move back to Arizona at some point in my life.

1:05:00Like if I, if I were to have kids, I'm going to move back there. My number one goal in life is to have a child, move back to Arizona, and turn my hair into red and yellow stripes. I love ketchup and mustard hair. I'm putting it out there. I love it. It's a great hairstyle. No one in New York seems to get it, and I just can't wait to be free. I'm moving to Tempe, and I'm getting red and yellow highlights. Yeah. He's like, wow, small world. My mom's in Chandler right now. She's like, oh, I love Chandler. I love Chandler. Also from Friends. and I also didn't know your mom lived there. That is crazy.

1:05:34And your dad's in Kansas City, right? Tell me about your dad. Do you have trauma? He's like, I do. He's a player. My dad's a player. She's like, um, because he's in sports? Well, yeah, I mean, he played for the Pirates, but also he's just a player. She's like, oh, oh, so you're saying a double entendre, but also I'm trying to remember what team he played for because that's also important. So let's just get all the bases covered. That's also a sports reference. she's basically like yes america i'm not an idiot i understood i he has that actually happened to be a professional player so i just wanted to ask the questions i'm not dumb okay just like yeah like my mom just wasn't gonna like deal with that shit like i don't know like i haven't talked to him probably five or six years that's a really long time yeah i mean like it was just kind of like a pattern with him because i was always like i didn't have a dad i remember being in kindergarten and people being like where's your dad and i was like my mom said i don't have a dad and god's my dad like they really like i really said that thought that was crazy and then he like showed up the bunch of gifts and i was like what and he had a hummer h1 i was like who is this my mom's like that's your dad i was like whoa geez what a way to find out god and so the dad doesn't ever reach out and when kj texts he doesn't text back yikes yeah also i felt really old that now our uh stories of dad abandoned our family now involve an h1 i'm like wow that was like the that's like 2004 2005 like i'm really old now we're older than the dads i know like the stories were always like and then showed up in a station wagon in the pontiac you know i was watching dukes of hazard my dad came up on a horse i was watching three's company and janet had just slammed the door and then dad showed up and now it's like and then i had to press pause on the the beta man the Flo Rida or something.

1:07:25Like I hadn't seen my dad. And then a horse drove up and he gave me a gift of cheesecloth. And I thought, God, who is this person? I know. I just can't deal. I can't deal with modern flashbacks. I know. We're so old now that the dads, even if we're talking about the dads, I'd be like, well, you know, he's an asshole, but he's young. So I forgive. You know, you got to find some forgiveness.

1:07:48He's just a baby. I was like, please get rid of the H1s in our traumatic flashbacks. Thank you. He is talking about how, you know, he doesn't have a dad and how he was around all women growing up. And so he's used to communicating with women and talking about his feelings and stuff. And it's kind of to his detriment because people are like, girls are like, gross. It's like they don't want that. So he's going to learn to, you know, kind of be a player, I guess. or make an effort to not be like that. He's going to reprogram. Okay. And Bailey's like, Oh, I'm someone who wears my heart on my sleeves too, or on my chest when I'm feeling very cauliflower.

1:08:30And it's hard to like gauge who can handle it and who can't, but there's going to be a woman who's tired of the same old guy. And they're going to be really into that part of you. It's not me. I'm sorry. There will be somebody I'm sure. Probably not in this house, but somewhere.

1:08:47um uh i i like this pattern that every episode someone has to sit down with kj and like pours their heart out to him um because that's well he pours his heart out to them right yeah that's like there's always like a one-on-one with kj now um yeah he's very in touch with his feelings and i can see how people are like because if you're this open with your feelings and i'm not saying it's bad to be open with your feelings maybe i am saying that because sometimes Like right in the beginning, I'm like, this is too much. Because, you know, like after the second date, the real tears start coming. You know, I feel like there's a lot of sensitivity there.

1:09:23Yeah. But I did think it was also funny that she's like, wow, this is amazing. You know what? Someday there will be a girl who will have dealt with so many guys who don't communicate. And she'll meet you and she'll be like, ah, finally a guy who's open with his feelings. I can't wait to put him in the friend zone. Okay now it is Amanda, Carl, Jesse And Levi they're at the dinner cruise So they go out and Sierra's like Oh my god this is like our first Hamptons Dinner out I'm not yawning you're yawning Why is everybody yawning Amanda Amanda really can't be out Yeah she's I mean we We can't forget that Amanda's a bit of a drip too So Levi's like well Bailey had to listen to a podcast to sleep sometime.

1:10:10She's listening to a Buddhist podcast. Jesse's like, is she Buddhist? He's like, yeah. He's like, oh, his mind is blown by that. Actually, my mind is. I would not have pegged Bailey to be a Buddhist, but it's more fun watching Jesse's mind get blown because when his mind gets blown, it really shows all over his face. Like his eyes go in different directions. That frown sort of sags. He just like looks lost at sea. Like his entire worldview has been reshaped and collapsed. in front of him. Sierra says, oh, yeah, I dated a Buddhist once, but he didn't have a couch, so I fucking dumped him. What the fuck?

1:10:47It was like a monk. The monk's like, yeah, I don't know. How many people just pretend they're Buddhist because they're poor? I'm really into Buddhism right now. It's like, you just can't afford a couch. Just say you can't afford a couch, okay? You don't need to carry around a little boulder ding. For Christ's sake. Fuck you on the floor. You don't have to go through this whole rock deodorant bullshit. Sierra goes, yeah, I would like to find a Christian husband. And Jesse's like, what? Or spiritual. He's like, I believe in God. Oh, I mean, I don't need to marry a Jewish girl. What? Sorry, Jesse, you are no longer in the running to be Sierra's next top husband.

1:11:27And now at the house, Mia comes down really dressed up for some reason. Because aren't they just staying home, this crew? But she dresses really nice. No, no, they're going to go out. Oh, they're going out to a party. okay that's right so um she comes down she's uh in a bright yellow thing and everyone's like oh my god you're out then she's like okay give me more okay let's play a game guys i'm new and the producers told me to do this and so i said yes because i've been here five minutes so let's play a game you have two minutes to ask any questions you want of each other now this is actually a game i liked yeah very like just simple to the point and not like trying you don't have people like clutching their pearls performatively to be like, what?

1:12:06When was the last time we got a blowjob in a steakhouse parking lot? So Kyle's like, all right, all right. Here we go. I'm ready to start. Okay, Mia, is Scott the one? He is. Will we meet Scott? Well, he's opening his door in Miami, so he's like back and forth. So I hope so, but I think you guys will really like him. Does he think you're the one? He does. Do you let him go out? Does he drink too much and you complain about it? I feel like they're trying to get me at, and she's, like, not. She's unflappable on this. Did you immediately stop wanting to go out the second that you married him? Yeah, like, is it, like, compatible?

1:12:44Do you ever ask him a single question for the past six months? Whoops, time's up, time's up. Okay, so, Wes, you're next. What are your intentions this summer? He's like, well, last summer, Sierra was, like, really upset with me. And then I was, like, afraid. And then I didn't want to come off, you know. You want to make out with her again? What are you trying to say? We only got two minutes. Um, I'm, I'm, um, so the alarm basically goes off and like, okay. All right, Kyle, you're up. So all right, coil. What's the thing that terrifies you the most? Well, uh, my biggest fear would be to not start a family before my parents pass, which is why every night that I could be at home, having sex with my wife and having kids.

1:13:30I instead go out and get drunk. All right. Next question, please. Kyle, what did you and Amanda talk about in the sound? Well, I tried to apologize and we have all these issues and she just reduced it down to like drinking. And I was like, I mean, I felt kind of paralyzed. And when I'm paralyzed, I drink. And then we got to the restaurant and Jesse's asking Amanda if she's squashed everything with Kyle. And she's like, no, I just think that he's struggling and he's dealing with things, whether he wants to admit it or not. Basically, I think assuming stress, et cetera. And Jesse's like, I hate to see you guys like this.

1:14:05I mean, so I really hope that we can get to a better place. And she's like, yeah, I hope so. I mean, last summer I thought we were making so much progress and just feels like once summer ends and once there's no cameras around, there's like no evidence or proof. He just goes back to the same old ways because he's not being held accountable by Bravo, essentially, in America. Yeah and she's like why can't you just stay consistent I mean he is consistent He really is So then we go back to the house and Now it's Kyle's turn and so It's still his turn I guess So they're like what do you need to do to make Amanda Completely happy he's like um let me change And I struggle with that because you know I am Who I am you know That's it

1:14:48We're a drag queen And who I am needs no excuses All right, I have a question here. Could you see yourself sacrificing some DJ time to spend more time at home? He's like, well, keep in mind, I've only been DJing for a year. And we've had issues for a lot. I was like, and Wes goes, answer the question. And Bailey's like, yeah, would you sacrifice time for her? Uh, well, I mean, if it means DJing less. Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding. The alarm goes off. It's like, oh, thank God. But he's just hedging so badly. He's basically saying he's not going to sacrifice time for her. And I'm sorry to repeat this, but when he's like, yeah, but I've only been DJing for a year and our problems have been this whole time.

1:15:30Yeah, but before you were DJing, you were doing the Loverboy parties where you were still out all night. It's the same issue. You're just making it. You're just giving it a new spin, sir. I think if you love someone, you do make those sacrifices. I mean, you know what? Everyone knows I love board games. If I had my way, not it's not even had my way, but like my dream schedule, I would play board games every single night of the week for hours on end, hours and hours and hours on end. And, you know, but you don't do that, you know, because it's like important to carve out time and to make time for the person that you love.

1:16:05Like it's important for me to spend time with Dom as well, you know, and like you make sacrifices, right? And it's not to make Dom sound like he's like a second fiddle of board games. But the point is you find balance in your life just the way you also find balance for friends. You find it's like, yes, there's this thing that I do that I love. I have a hobby that I love that brings me so much joy. But it's you. But there are other people who are more important who bring you joy. And you just have to find that you find the time for them. It can't just be solely about you and your hobbies or your drinking or your DJing is what I'm trying to say.

1:16:48Yeah. Well, it's really rough to ask an alcoholic to have balance is what I'm saying. But he's talking about, yes, of course. I'm just making a joke. But in terms of like. I'm just saying literally. but in terms of like uh of uh like cutting back on djing no i know it's like kyle you can cut back if there's someone that you love in your life that it's important for you and for them that you spend time with them then you do it and it's like a no-brainer it should be a no-brainer okay so now um it's a commercial break and now they're going to go out so kyle is djing while they pregame. And God bless you.

1:17:31You do that for a living, but you're pressing play. Please just get something else. So now we go to 1229 a.m. And Amanda, Jesse, Levi, and Carl are coming home. And they're all going to bed. But it's 305 a.m. And the rest of them are partying. So they come home all wasted. And Sierra's like, um, West and Ben, are you making out? And she shuts the door on them. and then everyone else just makes food and Wes is flirting with Sierra now and she's kind of flirting back and she tells us, you know, he's like kind of on probation and I'm like the strictest probation officer of all time, but he got goats.

1:18:09So. Yeah, it's really good. Really helps. So she's being nice to him and then Wes and Jesse are in the room and Wes is like that was like the best night I've had with Sierra in like a thousand years. Like, oh my God, that was like so good. And Jesse's like, I love that like you judge the fun of the night based off of how nice her was to you he's like yeah you would feel the same way it's like yeah i'm sure and then kyle and amanda are in bed so you know they're gonna have a lovely and warm conversation he's like hey i miss you i hope i can sleep i think i got some i i got some anxiety i think so she just kind of she's kind of listening to him this time Right.

1:18:50And so she's like, well, you know, you know, the drinking probably doesn't help your anxiety, Kyle, because I didn't even drink that much. Kyle, you just had a fight today about being a drunk and you're coming home drunk. Like, come on, man. So he's like, I don't understand you. I don't know what you want. I can't I can't go over it again. I'm exhausted. So he's I don't know how this guy is complicated. so he's just finally like okay let's go to bed then she's like okay and it ends good god

1:19:27you just fast forward well it's just them saying the same shit over and over like when is he gonna understand I don't want him to drink when is he gonna understand I don't know what she wants they go to bed it's not we should find here's what we should do We should recap another show when it comes time to discuss their relationship. So instead of discussing why he doesn't realize what he should be doing, we could be like, okay, we'll use this moment to discuss what happened over on Pluribus or something. Yes. Pluribus. Okay, everyone. Thank you so much. And then Christian Wig finally got invited into the country club.

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