#3230 Married To Medicine S12E11: The Couples Runneth Over

0:00Ben Mandelker: What happens when there's so much that crap ends? Hello and welcome to Watch What Crappens, a podcast about all that crap on Bravo we love to talk about. I'm Ben Mandelker. Joining me by Married to Medicine, but Change Medicine to Podcasting co-host, it's Ronnie Karam. Hi, Ronnie. How are you?

0:37Ronnie Karam: Well, hello.

0:38Ben Mandelker: How is everything going today? It's great. Ronnie and I just had a couples trip, basically, because we just went to Miami. And we went for the South Beach Wine and Food Festival. Thanks for having us. Thanks for everyone who showed up to that. I guess probably we have Amazon live coming up later today and maybe we'll chat about some of the things that happened at the festival on Amazon live while we also tell everyone about cool stuff that we've found. So that check that out on Amazon. Also the crappies are at the end of this week. We are in the final, final stretch. Come join us. If you can find a ticket, you'll go to watch a crappies.com and there's a ticket link there.

1:17Ben Mandelker: There are still a few tickets left. And then also we are streaming them. the show. It's on Kizwi Street. It'll be a live stream, but it'll be available for two weeks. So if you don't get a ticket or you just live in a whole other different part of the world, go check it out. It's going to be great. It'll be so much fun. Okay. We've got a lot of guests. We've got a lot of fun and a lot of love. And if you're coming in person, there is a Patreon party. So be sure to sign up by going to our Patreon. There's a pinned post. It's an exclusive party that Patreon is throwing. They're throwing it. There's going to be like drinks and everything.

1:49Ben Mandelker: It's actually going to be really awesome. so go check that out we have Traders episodes we're coming down Traders finale later this week also Night Before the Crappies is the Traders finale we're doing bonus episodes on Patreon that's Traders and Ronnie just wrote another fabulous newsletter that is free to all, it just lives on Patreon don't even have to be a member to access it and what else is there? Ad free I mean video, it's really a whole experience there's so much going on right now is there anything that we haven't mentioned is there any love we have to give to someone Is there someone we're supposed to say hello to?

2:22Ben Mandelker: What are we supposed to do?

2:23Ronnie Karam: I thought you got it all. I think you got it all, everybody.

2:26Ben Mandelker: It's so fun. A lot of stuff happening here this week.

2:28Ronnie Karam: Yeah. Yes. So this is Married to Medicine, Season 12, Episode 11. And it's called What Happens in Jamaica? Stays in Jamaica. Okay, it's time for that to die, that phrase. What happens in Vegas? Stays in Vegas.

2:43Ben Mandelker: What happens in my house? Just stop. What happens in Bahrain? Stays in Bahrain. I agree I this was you know what this episode was a transition episode you know we had a trip the women just went on a trip and they just got back last episode and now they're packing to go on their big trip the couple's trip today so this was an episode where they were like hey we need to fill out our episode order so let's we're going to do the hallowed tradition on the show They sometimes do this when they have to fill out where like we're going to have something small happen on screen and we'll do a round robin with all the couples and react to it.

3:28Ben Mandelker: It's like Toya picks up an M &M and then they all have to comment on like M &M's. My favorite is a blue M &M. I remember in college I used to love M &M's. You did not love M &M's. I never read M &M's. Daddy, you love M &M's. What are you talking about? It just goes on and on. But, you know, that's just sometimes the nature of the beast. Sometimes that's just what happens on reality TV, you know?

3:48Ronnie Karam: Yeah, well, here we are with that transitional episode, okay? What was this movie called that she was in? What movie? She was Angel. She's in a movie. Oh, Sin. I thought it said Sinster. And I was like, oh, is that a play on Sinister? Yeah, or Sinister. Sinister the movie.

4:11Ben Mandelker: Well, I think it said Sinister at the end, but it looked like it said Sin in the beginning. I'm not sure. Is it a Tubi movie? I'm looking for it right now. Sin. Sin. I don't know, but basically Contessa is, you see the episode opens up, Contessa's giving her son driving lessons, which, you know, seems like it could have led to an accident, but luckily they were in a big empty parking lot, so good job there. Brandy's at work. Mimi, um, Mimi has made coasters of herself for Steve, and Angel has arrived at her movie premiere, because Angel not only is she - Mimi's like, This is not just Mimi.

4:48Ronnie Karam: This is Coaster Mimi. Coaster Mimi. This is Coaster Mimi, y 'all. Okay, this is the Mimi that is not going to get a ring on your table. There's no ring on the table, Mimi. You better watch out.

4:59Ben Mandelker: So, yeah, I love that Angel has a movie premiere. Angel, our resident nurse, she's like, oh, but I'm also going to be, I'm also the star of a movie. She is a multi-hyphenate. So she says, tonight is my movie premiere. I'm so excited. I've been in the entertainment business for years. like ever since I was in nursing school. So that, you know, that's how I paid my tradition, my tuition by doing music videos and movies and modeling, which I love. I love this for Angel that she's so pretty that it's the movies that are paying for her nursing. Normally it's like the day job is paying so that way you can follow your dream of going into the movies or like modeling or anything like that or fashion.

5:36Ben Mandelker: But she's like, oh yeah, I just do modeling and movies that way I could just to fund my real passion. It's like, you're so pretty. Yeah. How do you do that?

5:48Ronnie Karam: Sandra Bullock's like, I really just did all of this so I can get to dentist school. I mean, that's. I know. So she's like, you know, it just becomes you get to a place where you just become that phase and you become in demand. And it's only up from here. So we're at this big movie premiere and the ladies are arriving and telling her congrats and stuff. So they sit on a couch and this producer guy, Lindell, comes over and he's like, ladies, you are impeccable, gorgeous, dope. Whoever did your hair, Contessa. Wow. Fucking phenomenal. Amazing hair.

6:24Ben Mandelker: Amazing. Contessa's like, whoa, hello. That's the executive producer. Is he single? And Angel's like, I don't know. And Simone goes, speaking of single, I'm not going to let you have your banter, Contessa. It is that time of the year for the couple's trips. Cecil and I are continuing to work in our relationship And we're not going to be hosting The couples trip this year Oh geez

6:49Ronnie Karam: So when has the rule been that you have to be in a good relationship To host the couples trip I don't think that that's a rule Is it?

6:57Ben Mandelker: I don't think I've always felt like this couples trip is So chaotic And it's never good for the couples All they do is play like game show games And they don't actually have any growth Ever and I always say this is unlicensed beachside therapy every single year and this is the first, now they actually have it's not the first year but this, the first Mimi is now a full-fledged cast member and they have an actual therapist who could like run this thing and they're still not going to give it to her.

7:26Ronnie Karam: Yeah, I think that this year Toya came in and she was like, I want more money and they're like no Toya, she's like, we've been doing this show for 12 years now and I deserve or 11 years now and I deserve more money. They're like, no Toya okay then what could you give me okay we'll let you host the med ball and the couple's trip okay

7:45Ben Mandelker: sold so simone is like we are gonna give it to toya and eugene toya and eugene are the are in the best place in their marriage and mimi's like there's a they're supposed to be uplifting each other i don't see that toya and eugene it's like well also it would be the funniest for us to see

8:03Ronnie Karam: Toya do this so yeah it'll it's funny putting Toya in a leadership position because she feels like she has to be nice to Heavenly in those situations because she's the leader and it is funny to watch when Toya like has to deal with Heavenly like the med ball stuff is really funny how she's just trying to stay calm with Heavenly and Heavenly just keeps poking at her and poking

8:22Ben Mandelker: at her okay whenever they give Toya a leadership position it's hilarious because she never knows what she's doing but she likes to sort of like have that cock on her walk like I'm the one I've in charge here. I'm going to tell you what to do. And it's just always a hilarious disaster.

8:35Ronnie Karam: Well, I feel like if Toya, you know, did have a job and stuff. I mean, I know this is a job, but you know what I mean? Like if she was in the workforce workforce, I feel like she would be the leader of everything because sometimes that's all you need is that attitude. Like, you know, you act like the boss and they just keep giving you promotions and shit. She does suffer fools.

8:54Ben Mandelker: I mean, I do agree. I mean, I actually admire that in Toya because that's actually not something that I have, which is that she's like, this needs to get done. I'm going to do it. And I'm going to talk to the person who needs to, who needs to do it. And otherwise I will do it. And so she will just be like, this needs to get done, but it's also hilarious because it's Toya. So she, she's also like a little bit of a disaster.

9:17Ronnie Karam: Yeah. So she's talking to Eugene at home and she's like, okay, so update. So, so more to see, so I've been having to trip, you know, they've been having to try in the air. So we get to do the couple strips. Okay. So she was like, you know, you and Eugene do it. So, you know, she said we, she saw us grow become better that was funny but you know she asked me to take over the trip so i was like okay cool so you can bring one green egg and mimi's back at the the movie premiere

9:45Ben Mandelker: mimi's like simone uh let me ask you this do you consider toya safe like a safe friend and simone's like i do yes she's like well because my interactions with her have been kind of off as well. And Mimi says, if you're hosting a couple's trip, you perhaps need to be the glue of the group. It's giving a no from me.

10:03Ronnie Karam: I would prefer more safety. Okay. I need more safety. I am coaster Mimi today. Okay. Let's keep the rings off the marriages.

10:12Ben Mandelker: And I am putting my hat in the ring to be glue Mimi on the trip. I will be glue Mimi. Just call me Elmers.

10:18Ronnie Karam: When you're saying you're passing the baton to this couple, I mean, it makes me feel uncertain about the toxicity we're going to have. Okay. And Angel's like, I mean, there's just a level of respect, you know, and boundaries. And as far as friends, I mean, I don't want crazy negative energy with Toya.

10:35Ben Mandelker: Well, unfortunately that's, there's no other option when it comes to Toya, no matter what capacity she has on a couple strip, you're just going to get crazy negative energy.

10:42Ronnie Karam: You're lucky she's even going to let you come because any other year she would have been like, she's Seagull. She can't come up the couple strip because that's what she tries. And that's one of Toria's big steps. I think they were like, okay, you can host this, but you can't people keep people off for being single because she's like, well, I don't know what we're going to do with the people who will stick a little friend group. You know, as much as I think it's silly for people to want to come on a couple's trip by themselves. I mean, it just makes it very hard for the couples to have to the baby and cater to them.

11:09Ronnie Karam: You know, I'm not going to fight that fight. I'm not going to do it. I'm going to let the single come and they, the people, the people People could be pathetic if they want. It's basically their attitude.

11:18Ben Mandelker: Since when are the couples having to baby and cater to the single people? I feel like it's the single people who have to baby and cater to the couples.

11:26Ronnie Karam: It's the other way around. The single people have to comfort you guys because you're all ragging on each other's marriages the whole time.

11:33Ben Mandelker: Yeah. It's the single people who get stuck in the crossfire, who get recruited to solve arguments to different sides and everything. I see this as someone who's in a couple. I'm just saying like the single people are the ones who I think have it worse when you're I feel like it's worse for single people to be around a bunch of couples than for couples to be around single people.

11:48Ronnie Karam: Yes, preach. Yeah, do you remember when Tori wouldn't let Quad go on the couple's trip because she was single? She's like, you can't call Baldy or you're single. She's like, how dare you? How dare you use that against me when you know what I went through with Dr. Gregory?

12:05Ben Mandelker: And then Eugene goes, yeah, I mean, the single people can come and listen and you might learn some lessons for later. I'm like I think the only lesson you'll get from this is stay single.

12:14Ronnie Karam: No shit. I think we already learned our lesson from you as a couple. And I love that they're the couple that everybody's holding up. When we saw their party. Her Louis Vuitton party or whatever the fuck that thing was. Her like. What was it? She's like luxury. Yeah. She's like her luxury party where she just ragged. They got into a screaming match in front of everybody. Nice. Yeah. Yeah.

12:34Ben Mandelker: Great. Great lessons to take from you guys. Yeah.

12:37Ronnie Karam: It's time for a commercial.

12:38Ben Mandelker: It's time for a Crappins commercial So Toya's like I absolutely have learned my lesson I'm not as lonely than any conversation About Angel and her dating life And if you come with a snowman Okay You can come with a snowman Wait what?

12:55Ronnie Karam: No she's saying you can come with a snowman And I'm not going to say anything She's like you're not going to get that out of me Not on this couple's trip Toya she wasn't mad at you commenting on our relationship She was mad at you blowing up the relationship she was in.

13:11Ben Mandelker: Toya would actually, there's no way Toya's not commenting on a snowman who comes on this trip. So you're about to snow? Really? I don't think you're snow. Let me hold up this torch. You're gonna melt?

13:22Ronnie Karam: How you gonna come on this trip to Jamaica when you're a snowman? What are you, stupid? She's like

13:28Ben Mandelker: questioning Olaf.

13:29Ronnie Karam: Like, are you sure that guy even exists? I'm not gonna take this from a man with a carol for a nose.

13:38Ben Mandelker: You be quiet and learn some lessons from me and Eugene.

13:42Ronnie Karam: Does it smell bad in here? I'm sorry. Your nose is a carrot. You don't know. Stupid carrot nose. She's never allowed to go the whole trip.

13:49Ben Mandelker: I'm not taking fashion advice for someone whose idea of a shirt is three pebbles in his chest.

13:54Ronnie Karam: What are you going to hit me now? You got arms of a stick.

13:58Ben Mandelker: Literal stick arms. Why don't you go to the gym?

14:05Ben Mandelker: Just shaming this guy. She's a terrible host. You're shaming this snowman.

14:10Ronnie Karam: So Tori is like, okay, Eugene, can we do it? Are you okay with it? He's like, hold on. I'm thinking through it. Okay, we can do it. I'm off for 17 days. Okay, but I want to turn up. I'm telling you that right now. We're going to turn up. So now we go back to the other party, and Contessa is like, oh, my God, there's just so many unresolved issues. I wish we could have worked them out on my trip.

14:32Ben Mandelker: They're like, shut up, Contessa. Your trip is over. and they're like yeah that would have been great if we could have done that but now it's time to start the movie so they all go inside to the theater and it's like mimi goes i'm down for

14:44Ronnie Karam: a meaningful dialogue whoa no pun intended you're about to go sit and watch a tubie movie

14:50Ben Mandelker: did you just did you find out if it actually is uh yeah to be it is yeah um so they go to this movie theater and um they're all watching and contessa promptly falls asleep and to be fair it those look like very comfortable chairs and also to be fair she is a doctor she probably

15:09Ronnie Karam: works a lot and to be fair probably was not a very good movie but also to be fair you are in someone else's movie you can pretend to stay awake you know put some popcorn in your eye do something

15:24Ben Mandelker: like i think contessa just revealed herself to be a movie sleeper she's probably the person who's like you say hey condessa you want to watch the show with me oh my god i love this show let's like like oh let's have a whole night we'll invite everyone over and we're all going to watch old episodes of sex in the city and everyone comes over and she falls asleep within five minutes like okay well it's condessa she can't stay awake through her show you know she's that type she revealed herself yeah um the movies so anyway and then they're like see her sleeping and they're like Contessa and even what's her face Angel sees it and then the lights come up at the end and Angel's like did you guys like the movie and Contessa was like loved it loved you in it you were fantastic so now it's after so now it's after the movies and it's time to start packing for the big trip so we're at Simone's house and Simone is like so I took this dress on the girls trip and I didn't wear it so I'm gonna take it again to Jamaica do you think it's a yes or a no and Cecil's like yeah that's nice I'm just excited we don't have to plan this shit she's like yeah it's bittersweet actually and he's like yeah do you think they'll have enough luggage for Steve to get all that Louis over to Jamaica I'm gonna put some Louis shit on cause me and Steve are gonna be twins yeah God Steve he loves Louis Vuitton

16:51Ronnie Karam: You can't afford Louie, and I'm sick of this entire family relying on me. It's like, okay, Jesus, save it for the trip. Save it for the trip. So we go over to Coaster Mimi's house, and she's like, wow, got some gold sandals. God love the sandals, Steve. And he's like, no, these are, she's like, unk sandals? He's like, these are not unk sandals. We do sneakers here. Okay, I'm doing sneakers. Okay, concentrate on your coasters.

17:16Ben Mandelker: And she goes, yeah. So then we go over to Quad and King and they're packing and King is like, what are you thinking about these? And Quad's like, babe, we are not going to Europe with those short shorts. We are not going to Europe. You know damn well they don't wear booty shorts in Jamaica. He's like, I'm going to pack the shorts.

17:37Ronnie Karam: You're packing too much to wear those shorts. So now we go over to Brandy packing and he's only going to get to come one day because he has to go to work or something and or take care of the kids because I don't have child care. To which I say, show production, get some child care. They just need some chain smoking producers around there. Have them do it.

18:01Ben Mandelker: Yeah. So it's only be one day. And on top of that, like her kids starting school. So she's like, I'm going to come for a little bit and I'm going to leave. I'm like, so this is why Brandy is not a full-time cast member. I thought she was a full-time cast member. And then I realized that she's not in the opening credits. But, oh, well. So she's going to come for a little bit. And then she's going to leave. So now we go to Toya's house. And Toya is like, so what are you thinking about? Pack thinking of this trip to Ulujun. And he's like, well, bathing suit wise, I bought some stuff. She's like, yeah, that's cool.

18:30Ben Mandelker: He's like, what? I don't know what you just said. But yellow is your favorite color, right?

18:36Ronnie Karam: She's like, how many bathing suits are you going to bring? How many are you going to bring? He's like, three. Okay, good, because I want them to know that we're doing this trip right. And I don't want a husband with less than three bathing suits. It's like, okay. So he's like, okay, so we're going to have fun, but I think we need to establish some rules. So I think that if people get disrespectful, then they should get a timeout. And she's like, I love you. You could do that. You could be that person to give them a timeout. Look, you give them a little bit of power, and now they're going to be handing timeouts at a married-to-medicine trip.

19:11Ronnie Karam: What the hell do you think we're watching? I'm not watching this to watch you guys have respectful conversations. Get out of here with your timeout.

19:17Ben Mandelker: You're in a timeout. I'm about to say that these rules apply to Toya as well because you may need to. Yeah, no kidding.

19:25Ronnie Karam: You should put those bathing suits in timeout, okay? I love you, Eugene, but I don't want to see you in one bathing suit. Get rid of this.

19:35Ben Mandelker: So then, um, then they're, they're packing a couple of cards and everything. And now they all leave Atlanta and it's time to arrive in Montego Bay, Jamaica. And Toya's like, on a toy vacation, we only get a Mercedes. That's right. It's a Mercedes with air conditioning. And I didn't want the people just riding anything. You know, Simone will put us in something that might stop on the side of the road, but I didn't want that to happen. And we have a flashback to when they were all on a party bus on a previous couple's vacation in the Caribbean. and the bus broke down in 2019. Toria's still holding on to that from like six years ago.

20:10Ben Mandelker: She's like, the million.

20:11Ronnie Karam: Simone has a worse reputation on these trips. Last time it was like showing the boat that Simone got them on their trip. Like Simone just never wins in these flashbacks, that's for sure. So she's like, I'm a travel agent, but without a fee though. Because every couple has called me with some travel issue. Like Mimi and Steve, their flight was canceled. Scott's not even clear to the doctor to be here. And then there's Angel, there's Randy, there's Heavenly, there's David, there's Quad, there's King. So many people. I got to do so many flights.

20:38Ben Mandelker: There's a lot that's going into this. Like, we just did this festival down in Miami. And I was like, wow, this took a lot of coordination. You got Guy Fieri and Ja Rule there. But I think, like, the couple strip is actually more. There's a lot of people. So then it's like, yeah, let's go to a separate flight and everyone else. I'm like, I'm just not even sure to say anything about Colonel because he's got a golf strip or whatever. deals. So Curtis is all the way up in Michigan doing golfing. So everyone's just, this is like an amazing race.

21:09Ronnie Karam: And in the van or bus or whatever, Tori is like, where's your husband Jackie? And she's like, well, my husband is, um, go get her Jackie, go get her Jackie. Cecil's like, get her, get her. And she's like, well, I've got to, you know, I've got to tell you Curtis and I split up. She's like, again? Fuck again? Jesus Christ. Who was he fucking on the blog this time? She's like, I'm just kidding. Just wanted to lead to some lighthearted affair jokes. But Curtis is busy. He's on a business golf trip in Canada. And when you add golf to a trip, it's like, are we really golfing? And then when you add business to golf, I say, Curtis has a business.

21:49Ronnie Karam: There's a lot of confusion happening with this trip. I thought Curtis was like a phys ed teacher. Am I wrong? I thought he retired from being a teacher. Remember? Didn't he have a retirement party?

22:03Ben Mandelker: I really don't remember. You know, I used to love Curtis. And then when he cheated on Dr. Jackie, he was dead to me and continues to be dead to me.

22:10Ronnie Karam: I still hate PT cruisers because of that. Oh, so it says Curtis Berry, husband of Dr. Jackie, has not publicly announced his full retirement. He currently works as a head boys basketball coach at Mount Vernon Presbyterian. I thought he retired. What in the world is happening to my history on this show? What is happening?

22:32Ben Mandelker: He retired from being faithful to Dr. Jackie.

22:37Ronnie Karam: So wait, you get to go on, you get to be a head boys coach for basketball and go on golf trips in Canada? Like, wait a second.

22:46Ben Mandelker: That's like us going on tour, but being like, hello, everyone. Welcome to sexy unique podcast. Like, wait, you have to, I feel like if you go on that, a business trip for that is basketball. Don't you like stay with your thing, right?

22:58Ronnie Karam: we are so um and now uh they're kind of giving her shit and then we go to the rest of the crew arriving to jamaica and king's like i was bored here kingston i was nine or ten when i came to the u.s and he we see pictures of him as a kid he's cute and his family and he loves you know he's talking about how much he loves jamaica and um she's uh quad's like oh i need some rum and he's like uh you do not get rum she's like oh the rum does not need to hit me ever again on this trip please don't let the rum do what it did to me last time he's by the way if you missed the trip from last year it was amazing yeah i did watch that even though i didn't watch

23:40Ben Mandelker: all of last season i did watch their trip and it was pretty wild yeah uh and king's like no rum on this trip king always is like kind of like smirking at his own jokes he's like he wants to let out like a really big laugh because he like loves his joke but he like holds it in so he's always like like burps he burps his laugh without no rum remember yeah on the rum

24:02Ronnie Karam: so then we go over to the other bus and simone's talking about how she doesn't want to be separated and cecil's like i mean she wants to be separated from me jackie simone was like i'm not giving up that delta seat because they said simone do you want to go on frontier with curtis because i guess I don't know what happened, but he got stuck on Frontier and they were like, hey, we have another seat if you want to switch over. And she was like, hell no, I'm not switching over. I am a Diamond Medallion status member. He didn't do that work. I did that work. He can go on Frontier.

24:37Ben Mandelker: Yeah. Yeah. If he wants our sons to have a new, you know, Land Rover, he can go on Frontier because I'm keeping my seat on Delta. Okay. So then Toya, they all arrive and they all sort of gather at their, they're at a place called Secrets St. James. Secrets. Nothing is better. Nothing's better for a couple's trip about sharing than staying at a place called Secrets. So Toya's like, okay, but Toya, we'll get some room. We'll put together something to start up a percussion ride. And then Eugene's like, okay, well, you know how we do the Pledge of Allegiance? We're going to do a pledge of friendship.

25:20Ronnie Karam: Oh, my God.

25:22Ben Mandelker: Get the Cynthia Bailey out of here talking about. We, the friends and couples embarking on this special trip, pledge to foster an atmosphere of kindness, respect, and camaraderie.

25:35Ronnie Karam: Oh, Lord Jesus, Father God, please, no. No, we're not done. We're not done. Come on, Eugene. Give us the pledge. He's like, okay, any instances of pettiness, meanness, or disruptive behavior will be met with the consequence of having to go to your room for a cool-off period. Oh, my God. Yes, send us to our room. Please, just start a fight right now, Daddy. Let's just go to our room. It's the only way we're going to get to our room. So Quad then announces, tonight, tonight, we have a plan.

26:06Ben Mandelker: We planned a night. We're going to a club at Pier 1. Which is the name of a club. But of course, anyone in America is like, what? Pier 1.

26:15Ronnie Karam: We're going to party at the only place that refuses to stop selling Papazahn chairs. 2026. Who is buying all those Papazahn chairs? Every time I go into Pier 1, they're like, Papazahn? No. Who the hell is still buying these? I don't see them in anyone's home.

26:34Ben Mandelker: If you're looking for a rattan accessory, congratulations. Congratulations. We are partying with the best of them at Pier 1 tonight. Commercials. Here comes one right now.

26:50Ronnie Karam: So now they go to their rooms and they get notes and gifts from Toya and Eugene. And they're just little pillows that are like, be kind. Hang in there. Okay. Talking stick. And Quad says, I think we need this vacation.

27:06Ben Mandelker: We've been going through so much. We've been ignoring our interior designs at Pier 1. You know what I mean? And he's like, you mean the ups and downs with IVF? No, it's because you overcooked something in the microwave, king. Of course, it's the ups and downs with IVF.

27:21Ronnie Karam: Yeah, so she's like, you know, we were the couple that was doing it 15 times a week. And with IVF, it makes it difficult. And she's trying to make it sexy, but it's hard. So they really need this couple's trip. They want to rekindle love, the softness, the tenderness. And I want to get through one day where he's not taking food off of my plate.

27:44Ben Mandelker: Good luck. So she says, I just want to be in the moment. He goes, you want to be an airhead for the weekend? What did you just say? Airhead. It was funny. Airhead.

27:57Ronnie Karam: I will never be an airhead. I'm going to use the restroom and change into this robe. You rethink your airhead comment. She's like, uh-oh, you got to poop. That means you got to poop. You're doing the poop walk. She's like, no, this is the poop walk. And she does like a poop walk. It's like when you're holding your butt together, but you're trying to walk like this. That's not pooping.

28:15Ben Mandelker: No, that's a poop walk if you're being an airhead, which you're going to be this weekend. Weekend airhead. We're the poop.

28:23Ronnie Karam: So now Cecil and Simone go to the beach. And she's like, do you miss those times when we had to bring the boys on spring break to Jamaica and different places? And he's like, nope.

28:34Ben Mandelker: I do not. I'm surprised the boys didn't pop up. Like, hey, mom and dad.

28:39Ronnie Karam: Dad brought us in a suitcase. He said you'd buy us a car in Jamaica. Can you buy us a hotel room here? Thanks. He's like, can we just stop calling this a couple's trip and just call it an all-inclusive trip now? Because it's husbands, it's girlfriends, it's boyfriends, side pieces. Oh, geez. Stop making rules for everybody else. Just because you two have decided to be miserable in eternity doesn't mean the rest of us have to. Also, don't call it an all-inclusive trip because that's going to imply that Toya and Eugene are paying for everything.

29:14Ben Mandelker: Yeah, it's an all-inclusive for you because you're married to Simone. Yeah, exactly. Everything's an all-inclusive trip for Cecil.

29:21Ronnie Karam: Yeah. Simone's bringing her assistant, so everybody else should be able to bring their boyfriends. Yeah, so then Cecil's joking like, I got a side piece in there.

29:30Ben Mandelker: You want me to bring my side piece down? She's like, I am going to stab you. Can I bring my side piece? He's like, yeah, let's get it all out. So then Heavenly goes to Jackie's room. And Jackie's like, what are you knocking on my door so loudly for? Well, I wanted to make sure you were okay in here because, like, your man is not here yet. And no woman should be ever in a room without a man. It's not safe.

29:52Ronnie Karam: He just called. He's stuck. Apparently, he was on a car called a penis, and it ran into a vagina that he had seen in an ad on a blog. But he'll be here. I'm sure he'll be here. Oh, he called you and he's stuck? He's stuck in Canada. Canada vagina, to be specific. Oh, okay. That's all right, Jackie. So they're talking, and Jackie's like, we need to talk. So he's like, uh-oh, nothing serious, Jackie. Nothing serious now. The med gala, heavenly. And she's like, okay, please do not talk to me about no goddamn Met Gala, okay? I told you I would do anything y 'all want me to. You want me to get PR? Y 'all disrespected me.

30:31Ronnie Karam: And you know what? She is just so disrespectful. Joy is so disrespectful to me, Jackie. I will not take it for another second.

30:40Ben Mandelker: Okay, Heavenly. Okay, calm down. Calm down. Who made her the chair? Who did that to Jackie? I don't believe this at all. Why would you be the chair? I didn't do shit. I did not do shit. And Jackie's like, okay. We all said last year at the end of the Met Gala, You're going to let Toya do it so she can understand how hard it is. And it would also be very funny just how we have her running this trip. We're just setting Toya up to double fail at the end of the season now. So come on, just get with it. No, but she fucked up the whole thing.

31:06Ronnie Karam: So Jackie's like, Well, I admit that I'm not perfect, but I also admit that I'm not chunky. And I think that that closely makes me perfect. So now I shouldn't have made Toya CFO is the point because this is my baby. and we're down to the wire with this med gala. And I know everybody in America is wondering, how glamorous will the med gala be this year? Everybody's dying to know what everybody's wearing. Who's who is going to be there. Now, I just, I don't know. We just, we need to plan to go in a different direction. So she's like, listen, our names are on this, so we have to make an effort. And Heavenly's like, my name isn't on shit.

31:44Ronnie Karam: You all found it in. I mean, what do you want me to do? Just tell me what you want me to do, Jackie.

31:48Ben Mandelker: Well, we need you to rally everyone together Quad, Simone, Heavenly, Jackie Toya, and we can pull it off How many people do we all need there? I'm sorry, did I forget to say What? Okay, well how many people do you need there? And she's like, a hundred tickets Okay, and how many of you sold? Eight And those are our tickets

32:14Ronnie Karam: Yeah, so so far Not going great So now they are getting ready to go out and Angel is calling her man. And she's like, should I go? Should I go party or should I do my homework? Because I have homework due in the morning. I don't know. Should I go party or should I do my homework? And then 10 hours later, Toria goes to Brandy's room and they're talking. Oh, no. Well, they go to a party first. Sorry. Missed a big part. They go to Pier 1 and they're all dancing on Papa's on chairs and stuff.

32:44Ben Mandelker: Wicker and fake plans. They're like, party! And then 10 hours later, we're like, uh-oh, what happened? We're about to find out the big scandal that happened at Pier 1. So Brandy's like, wow, I woke up this morning and I was like, what did we do last night? Oh, it was loud. I was like, wow, I love all these cool little wicker baskets that you could put plants in or magazines. God, I got so drunk off of the possibilities.

33:13Ronnie Karam: Yeah, and King Quad had fun, too. and King's like, Thoya was on the couch. Eugene was dancing. Eugene was doing poop dance. Pier 1 was lit, baby. I love the smell of vanilla candles mixed with potpourri.

33:29Ben Mandelker: Last night, that was amazing. And Cecil's like, yeah, it was really good. Service was great. Yeah, people are super nice here. Are we really doing a round robin about Pier 1 right now? Yes, we are.

33:42Ronnie Karam: I love it. I love Simone. Everyone else is like, I'm so hungover that was a fucking party and Simone's like I love the service she's leaving a genuine Yelp review

33:51Ben Mandelker: food was quite good I enjoyed the calamari

33:55Ronnie Karam: so Quad is curling her hair and you know she's doing one strand at a time as you do and King's like okay well I'm waiting for you as usual okay I'm over here making my hair look like curly fries so please give me a moment

34:10Ben Mandelker: and he's like well we're just giving back to the kids I don't think we have to look like are going on the runway and quad's like i always want to look decent but it's been like a lot trying to put this medical mission together because we have the kids and they're ready to go and like we have book bags and we're back to school and we have to give away high gym products yes the medical mission is definitely different this year than any other year in the past well yeah because it's we're gonna be like doing community service and connecting with the kids and motivating i'm like it's what it is like literally every single year but like it's good you guys are the only ones on bravo actually doing community service so i guess i can't i know i like that they do that every year with their group trips like it is really nice that they like it's like a priority at like every single year they're like we like take a moment out of our show to do

34:56Ronnie Karam: community service which is really impressive yeah so king's like uh he taught he says that he's got his cousin dr green there and they're basically going to be filling people up with supplies and stuff that they can't normally get easily around there so they go to van they get in vans and go the event and Toria's like well I told Angel and Brandy they're here single so they gotta rotate amongst the couples and then at the end of the night you get nothing for nothing but they're gonna stay like what they learned from you know what they learned from us and what we could do better okay they told they've already given us one note they said Eugene more bathing suits I told you Eugene told you

35:33Ben Mandelker: what are they gonna tell me that's like a broke bitch telling me how to get some money

35:41Ronnie Karam: and brandy's like well i can learn from any everybody you can tell me stuff and so toy is like uh heavenly can you participate i can i can participate because i really want you to have at least check well i'm gonna pay for the med gala so that's what i'm gonna do i'm participating in that that's more than you've ever done well since you all brought up the med gala

36:02Ben Mandelker: well i'll take it from here because we were thinking i was telling brandy i was like where do they fit in the scenario as at least the med gala because what do you all think well they make a lot of money and they're ready and brandy is like i mean here's the thing okay you guys haven't discussed anything with us so i know nothing about this med gala and jackie's like well we've had two previous med galas that were so successful that we've only sold eight this time around and this year we felt like toya would make a great cheer person for year three and uh we just we just really want to have some laughs no we didn't think that we didn't think that we thought it would

36:35Ronnie Karam: teacher a lesson. That's why we made Toya the leader. It's like, I don't need to be taught a lesson because the one thing I do well is plan parties, okay? Oh, this is not a party. That's a big difference, Toya. It's a big difference. I love it. Heavenly is just like, okay, let's just go for Toya this entire time because Toya is actually trying. She's like, Heavenly, will you participate? Will you be a part of this today? And Heavenly is not having any of Toya. So Heavenly is like,

36:59Ben Mandelker: The first few years of the Med Gala, Toya was so difficult and we wanted to teach her a lesson. And how hard it is to put on an event, especially how difficult she is and eugene is like um uh he's saying oh there's some wine around he's like by the way don't forget last year at the med gala where'd the wine come from because people drank that wine okay we made a contribution we gave some bottles of wine heavily's like yeah they drank it because that's all that there was they didn't they didn't want that it's garbage garbage

37:25Ronnie Karam: wine and they got that wine free from some vendor you know to publicize it on the show and they're acting like, oh, we bought all this wine. You did not buy it. You brought it. That's different. And Heavenly's like, y 'all should be ashamed. You better apologize and say, you know what? We were wrong. We were wrong. Just say that. And Eugene's like, we're never going to apologize. And Toria says, Eugene, Eugene, hold on. I don't want to interrupt. I don't want energy going up in this place. It's my trip, okay? And we're going to be around kids, and we can't be vile around kids. We can only be vile around our own kids, not other people's kids.

38:01Ben Mandelker: That's not bad energy And Toria's like Let's leave it here on this bus And so then Damon starts saying Guys let's do this And Toria's like Let's leave it on the bus He's like guys let's say a prayer And Toria's like Okay let me get off the bus And Toria My man is speaking

38:15Ronnie Karam: God damn God damn it My man is trying to say a prayer God damn it Then my man pray to God damn

38:21Ben Mandelker: Let daddy pray

38:25Ronnie Karam: So funny I love having literally using the Lord's name in vain

38:29Ben Mandelker: To get a prayer set So funny. Everyone must be silent because daddy's talking.

38:33Ronnie Karam: Yes. And Toria's like, your man started talking when I was speaking, though. And if he disrespects me, he's going to get zero from me. Oh, he's not disrespecting you, Toria. I'm disrespecting you. Daddy's just trying to say a prayer. Well, he was talking while I talked, though.

38:47Ben Mandelker: Oh, daddy, I'm delicate. I just don't want to hear any more arguing, guys. I can say what he needs to say, damn it. Let him say what he wants to say. Daddy, you have the floor to do.

38:59Ronnie Karam: all right daddy go ahead and say your prayer daddy everybody's listening to prayer god damn it so toy's like okay okay uh the name of jesus thank you thank you lord for bringing us here thank you for letting ujian have three bathing suits even though i thought he only had two i'm very thankful because now our trip doesn't look stupid okay amen no we don't want you to pray

39:20Ben Mandelker: we want for the free damon will you please pray you talk you talk too much toy yeah daddy will Will you say the prayer, daddy?

39:28Ronnie Karam: I can't even think. Okay, everybody, let's say a prayer. Name of Jesus, we thank you. We thank you for bringing. God damn it, Toya. I want my husband to say the prayer.

39:40Ben Mandelker: Here's to you, here's to me, but we never disagree. If we do, fuck you, here's to me. Toya, that's not a prayer. That's a choice.

39:48Ronnie Karam: So now Curtis has arrived, and so they meet. They do this mission, which is basically talking to a bunch of kids, and we meet the cousin, Dr. Green. And she's basically like we're giving them feminine products and hygiene products because there's a lot of poverty. And, you know, basically we're trying to help people out. So then Toya is asking Quad where she is because Quad is late. And she's like, where were you? I thought there was all the bus behind this. I was like, I don't want to leave them. And she's like, no, it's fine. It's fine. Do you want to eat my hair? Do you want to dip my hair into ketchup?

40:27Ronnie Karam: Then I've done well. Thank you, Toya.

40:30Ben Mandelker: Hey, guys. Arrowhead incoming. So then they do their community service, which is very lovely. And they're handing out supplies. And they're also educating. Each one of them gives a little speech. Steve is like, I'm from the NFL. And they're like, cool. And Mimi's like, I make coasters. They're like, cool. and then um they're handing out speeches and heavenly is like i'm dr heavenly comes and i'm a dentist and a lot of people will tell you you can't do this you can't do that the only thing you can't do is talk while daddy's trying to pray okay everyone people want to tell you you can't be

41:04Ronnie Karam: a wife you can't be a mother you can't be a doctor now i'm not saying you can do all that at the same goddamn time okay but i'm saying damn it's and now everybody damn it's not a word because the The kids are like, oh, no, damn, it's not a bad word. Now, let me tell you, what else you can't do is tell somebody that they can't say damn. Who are you to tell me that you sit your little ass down, you bony little kid?

41:27Ben Mandelker: Your mama says damn.

41:32Ronnie Karam: She yells at the kids. So then now they're all feeling good because they're helping, you know. So Heavenly goes up to Toya and she's like, Toya, can I say one thing? Now, you're wrong and shit, but you can be wrong. You know what I'm saying, but I want to talk to you about it. And she's like, well, you yell. But, you know, y 'all were yelling, too. Now, I'm not trying to disrespect you, Toya. I'm just coming over here trying to use my nice heavenly voice. Look how I'm talking right now. You don't want to be your friend, Toya.

41:57Ben Mandelker: Come on, Toya. Let me take it up another octave. We can't get to her yelling. You talk so much. You talk so much, Toya. She's like, ugh, I'll throw the ball back. No, but I'm just saying, I want to tell you, I don't want everyone to make you think I'm disrespecting your husband, and I don't want to say any bad blood ever, even though you're a shitty, shitty leader. I don't want to be mad with you. She's like, oh, it's fine.

42:18Ronnie Karam: We're good. Don't worry about it. It's like Heavenly's apology means nothing because like later in the day or in five minutes, she's going to do it all over again. So whatever. So now they go have a barbecue outside and Eugene talks about how important it is to show these kids that black doctors can make something of themselves. And then Damon, you know, It's kind of the same thing they do every year, basically. And Damon's like, well, if you're meant to do something, it seems it keeps falling in place. With Heavenly doing the political stuff, I'm not interested in her doing that. But if you feel it lead to something, then just keep going.

42:58Ronnie Karam: And it just sort of came. And now I'm like, you know what? Okay, I'll support you 100%. Because I didn't think she would be in politics. But then everywhere she went, people were begging her, Heavenly, please save the country. please heavenly we beg of you and so that's where we're at yeah i mean because you gotta support her

43:16Ben Mandelker: regardless like in regards to her fertility it's like it's your treatment it's your goal it's your vision i'm gonna like ride with you it's a sacrifice on my end but you know while you're going through the tough times i'll just make fun of you a little bit on the side isn't it your child

43:29Ronnie Karam: too sir why is he acting like he's doing her the biggest favor on earth he's making me crazy with this fertility thing and then he's saying i mean would it be reciprocated i mean that's where we

43:40Ben Mandelker: racial appreciation, would it be reciprocated? And that's now he tells us. Yeah, she'll support you while you get eggs implanted and go through all the shots. Yeah, he's like, I'm supporting you so much, but where's my support in this? Well, she's the one who's going to give all the shots and all the hormones. She won't even let me steal food off her plate, anymore. The highs, the lows, the uncertainty, it's taking a toll on the relationship in general. So I don't think it's a healthy journey for both of us right now. I mean, she's an airhead, right? Remember when I called her an airhead? That was so funny.

44:10Ben Mandelker: I don't know if I could have a baby with someone who does poop walk. And then denies it.

44:16Ronnie Karam: Or denied it, supplied it, right? Okay. Well, I've got a very inspiring story, everybody. Before I met Heavenly, I sat on a rock at a lake and I prayed to God. And I said, dear God, if I'm not supposed to do this, show me a sign. But nothing happened. I sat there for three hours and I kept sitting there. First, a rescue boat came by and I said, no, it's okay. And then a frog fell on my head and I said, poor frog. And I put it back in the water. Then my car got stolen. Yep. Nothing happened. Usually people say, God, if you want me to do this, send me a sign to do it. They don't say, God, send me a sign not to do it.

44:57Ben Mandelker: God's like, is your question about like, are you not supposed to sit on this rock? or what is, I need some more specifics about what you're not supposed to be doing right now. Because right now you probably shouldn't sit on that rock. I'm going to drop a frog on your head so you get the message.

45:14Ronnie Karam: So Eugene's like, well, speaking of partnerships, I'm glad you and Quad are helping us put this on because we couldn't have done it without you. And he's like, I wasn't going to leave you. Come on, man. I'm not going to leave you hanging. Come on. So Tori is like, Steve, maybe, that's all. I just want to say thank you. Everybody did awesome. You know, we're doing so great. Oh, it was our first night. We're having such a good couples trip. I'm doing such a good job. Cut to next week. Ah, goddammit, your marriage sucks. No, your marriage sucks. No, your marriage sucks. Shut up, Doya.

45:41Ben Mandelker: Dun, dun, dun. We'll see what happens. Because now next week is when. Now it's going to kick into gear. This was our transitional episode where they did the nice things. And they packed. And they were happy and kind. And next week, we'll get into the shit. So that's something to look forward to. Thank you all for being here. and we will catch you on the next episode of Watch What Crappens. Bye, everyone. Watch What Crappens would like to thank its premium sponsors. Ain't no thing like Alison King. It's always a party on Alison Block. Our way is the Amber way. It's the Foster and the Furious. It's Amanda Foster.

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