#3237 The Valley Persian Style S1E09: Woosah in the Sky With Trymonds

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0:07Ben Mandelker: Who cares what happens when there's so much that crappens? Who cares what happens when there's so much that crappens?

0:20Ronnie Karam: Well, hello and welcome to Watch What Crappens! I'm Ronnie and that's Ben over there. Hello, Ben.

0:26Ben Mandelker: Hi, Ronnie. How's it going?

0:28Ronnie Karam: good how are you do you have fun at the golden crappies i i cannot actually express to you how much fun i had friday night like i feel like every year it just gets bigger and better

0:44Ben Mandelker: and i just have to say thank you first of all to you ronnie for being an amazing partner through it because it's too much so much work it's like two months of insane stress and coordination i go crazy and i feel like i enter a fun house and i'm just like and i feel like everything is i just like lose my mind i just try to be chill for two months but i but i just you know it's like to to have all that and leading up to that moment um is wonderful but really the fact that everyone came like that that you all in the audience you all came and you packed it you got into all those seats and you stayed we had a long show we did the we committed a party foul we committed the the award show party foul we went long this year but i think it's honestly ronnie every year what are you talking about no but this but here's the thing though normally i know the two of us when we're up there that we have a moment where we sort of like nudge each other like we should probably hurry this up i think we really didn't do that because i think we were actually having so much fun i think we For us, it was so much fun.

1:48Ben Mandelker: The guests were amazing to everyone who showed up for us. Thank you to literally all those people. We had, I think, the biggest guest roster of all time from AJ McLean from the Backstreet Boys, Ariana from Love Island, Katie Janela, Crystal Kung Minkoff, all of our podcast friends, so many people. The entire cast of Vanderpump Rules showed up. We weren't even expecting that. It was just such a fun thing that, I don't know, I've been on a high ever since. I mean, enough about me. What about you, Ronnie? How are you feeling?

2:19Ronnie Karam: Oh, my gosh. It was so fun. And then it went from that just straight back to Texas. I'm back in Texas now. So and then watching a million Bravo shows, it's just like never it never stops. And it's been so much fun. I had a great time. I'm sorry for wrecking everybody's ears with that keytar. Maybe I'll learn to play it before I pull it out next time. My niece was like, uncle, like learn how to play it before. She's like, that needs a little work. I mean, good call. But it was fun. And it's just a big toy for a big baby. And I just had so much fun. And your New York song was so good. And the music, Jake, and then Katie and Walter.

2:54Ronnie Karam: I mean, everybody was just so good. Our friend Colleen, she flew into town. She made us all these desserts with our faces on it. Like there were all these cake pops with our face. We had M &Ms with our faces on it. I mean, it was just so much fun. My friends all made T-shirts for my birthday this year. And they all wore them. And they just have my big face on them. They say Ronnie. i mean it was just such a nice time i had such a good time so glad it's over i'm already terrified

3:20Ben Mandelker: for next year you know i've already got the oh shit now what but i know but that being said um i know i already feel that way but also kind of perfect because this week we have so many shows to recap and we're actually doing two guest spots which are very exciting and i will say that they are traders related and um it's like a crazy workload but now but in the wake of the of the crappies i'm like whatever this is nothing i just am so happy i'm not memorizing lyrics i'm not trying to like coordinate with a million people i want to say by the way also before we get into you know the valley two things that really needed to be shouted out first of all kizwe like i thank you kizwe for capturing this show uh that replay if you missed it because obviously we're on the west coast and started like eight o 'clock that's late for a lot of people if you missed it that replay is still available uh through the end of next week i think through the 13th so we really recommend you watching it um because the the video quality was amazing i was like oh my god we are this looks like tv um so it's really good it's really great you can capture you can relive it you can see sort of the details you may have missed if you're in the audience so definitely check it out crappies.kizwe.com and also shout out to patreon because patreon hosted a full-on party, a pre-party on the roof of this venue.

4:43Ben Mandelker: And we went up there and it was so amazing. There was like, first of all, they got it catered by something about her, which was great. And I had to say, I'm not, I have no skin in the game. I don't need to promote something about her, but I swear to God, I had a chicken salad sandwich that night. I stole it from the party and it like, it like brought me to tears. It was so good. And we, there's a photo booth. So really thank you for Patreon for setting that all up. And thank you to everyone, our Patreon backers who actually, you know, who came. And I hope you guys all had fun at that party.

5:16Ronnie Karam: Yeah, I mean, I almost felt guilty because everything has been so great. And then I came home last night and I was looking through X Twitter. I still call it Twitter. I don't care. And I was like going between Bravo videos, which are kind of sad because, you know, Robert Cosby Jr. died, which is just so just fucking terrible. We haven't really talked about it on the show because what do you say? You know, it's just so sad. So I was reading stuff about that. And I was reading just random Bravo news. And some of it's really fun and funny. And then war videos, just war, just bombing videos, every other video.

5:49Ronnie Karam: And I'm like, what the fuck kind of timeline are we listening? I mean, I'm going between like, is Kenya Moore getting evicted to like a bomb? And then, you know, what's Mary Cosby thinking to another bomb? And then you have to like search like on the bomb videos, like Grok, is this real? You know, you have to look at the comment under that says, Grok, is this real? Because now people are just putting out a bunch of fake videos. So you can't even tell. It's like Dubai is being blown up. And it's like, is Dubai being blown up? No, it's not being. Well, it was going to be blown up. And then all the war technology.

6:18Ronnie Karam: I'm like, I didn't even know they had all this. It looks like watching a video game. The world has gone fucking crazy. There was a mass shooting here in Austin while I was away this weekend at some bar my niece goes to all the time. I mean, it's just like nuts. And then I'm like, we had such a great time, too. It's like so much good and so much shit at the same time. So I don't know what to tell you. You know, the world is going to shit. But just for a little while, let's pretend it's not. And talk. Yeah, exactly.

6:47Ben Mandelker: Welcome to 2026 has been a nightmare. But like at the same time, it's like that's why I'm actually so grateful for like honestly Bravo, but also our community like to be able to just to convene. and for like two hours, two and a half hours, two hours, 40 minutes. 10 hours. 10 hours. 45 hours. For that moment, like we can push out the pain of everything that is happening out there. Like it's not like, I would not say that one should live their lives by sticking their head in the sand like an ostrich. Like you can't do that in life, but you're allowed to do it for like a little bit every day. I think you're allowed to have a moment where you tune out the stuff that's so depressing and just find a little bit of peace and joy and find your fellow people.

7:40Ben Mandelker: And I really am grateful for that. And so, you know, really thanks for everyone for showing up either in person or virtually.

7:49Ronnie Karam: Yeah. I mean, don't stick your head in the sand. Stick it in the glitter. Am I right? All right. Let's get on with it. And so today is Monday, March 2nd. We are doing, we're starting with what we skipped last week, which is the Valley Persian Style season finale, episode nine, Handle with Skin Care is what it's called. Oh, that's good.

8:10Ben Mandelker: That's good. I like that.

8:11Ronnie Karam: I know. Yeah. I, my title is much more clumsy. It's like, what is it? I don't know what your title is. My title is something like Something in the Sky with Wyman's. I mean, it's terrible. But so they only made it to nine episodes, which I guess they just didn't have enough content. And then the content they did have is like still yelling at Sky. You guys get over it. You guys are all monsters on the show, especially Reza and Gigi. You guys are monsters. You got another show. And now you're calling someone else a monster. No. Sky, you're amazing television. I hope you're on here for 20 years. And if this show doesn't last, I hope you're on 10 other shows.

8:52Ronnie Karam: I love you. Yeah. And I love watching you go after these two and give no fucks. She still gave no fucks by the end.

8:58Ben Mandelker: She gave no fucks. She was great. And I like Tanene as well. I actually really like her.

9:03Ronnie Karam: Tanene's all right, but she's definitely a sleep pillow. I think she's one of those pillows that you sleep on so your face doesn't get wrinkled. It's like one of those soft, smooth, silky pillow. Like she's very nice. She's very luxurious. But God, hello. Is there anybody in there? I don't even know if there's any life force in that person. She's just like, and then I got really upset because, I mean, wake up. You're on TV.

9:28Ben Mandelker: But I think that she's funny and she's snarking. I like that. And I like that as she, I feel like the relationship with her and Sky is interesting and fascinating. And I'm intrigued to see how they're able to kind of like deal with it. Less so, Gigi. I honestly like someone on Twitter said that what was so interesting about this show is that it was actually the newbies were more fascinating than the veterans. I don't know if that's totally true. I think MJ was MJ and Tommy. That stuff was all very interesting. I actually think Reza was fine. Like Reza, he just sort of was actually more of on the sideline than I would have expected for this show.

10:06Ben Mandelker: I think Gigi Doe is like stuck in the rut of 2017. 2017 and she's just like this worked back then me i'm unstable and my love life is a mess and america will love it it's like no it's like it's not interesting to watch this person who's totally inept at everything trying to buy a 14 million dollar house or whatever that she'll never be able to afford and trying to go into some like fly-by-night business but um everything else though about the show is great so very happy with it well i think even the gg stuff was kind of

10:39Ronnie Karam: fascinating on its own because it's an LA story. You know, it's like, how is this person ever going to make it? This person should be in jail or at least banned from the public in some way, house arrest at the very least. She abuses people. She's terrible. She, you know, assaults people. She makes no effort in life. She fails at everything. And all she does is like, fuck ugly dudes to like get her name on businesses. And it's gross, but she, she succeeds. that i think is a very la story i mean it ends with her succeeding it ends with her kind of winning her season so it's like well you know welcome to la babe i guess failing upwards

11:20Ben Mandelker: okay well let's get into it um we see a recap of the whole season and now we land at natasha and amir's house where they are uh natasha is waxing hair out of his nose which is as thrilling

11:33Ronnie Karam: as it sounds and then we go to resin adam's house have you ever done that i've been intrigued i feel

11:38Ben Mandelker: like i'm not quite there yet where i need to wax i can still just pluck but have you i got a kit

11:43Ronnie Karam: i got it on one of our amazon lives every other monday at 1 30 p.m pacific time oh yeah yeah i got i got a kit to wax my nose and my ears but i'm just too scared i'm terrified it doesn't sound good um so i was wondering if you've done it you know i'm lebanese so that's just a rite of passage it's like i'm a 50 year old lebanese man it's time but i just can't make myself do it so then we go to resident adam's and adam um has kind of um this thing on his head it's like a bungee cord thing on his head and he's i don't know swinging himself around by the head what in

12:22Ben Mandelker: the 1952 jack lalane was this this was like this was like when you see that like people in like black and white footage with like those like those big like rubber or like leather straps

12:34Ronnie Karam: around their stomach or like this those are back to the shakers i've seen those people are on the thing where they you shake your fat a lot and i guess the fat wants to leave or something i'll

12:45Ben Mandelker: try i don't know maybe it's the energy i i like that stuff the the idea of a passive passive weight loss but um yeah he has this like his head is like in some sort of disc and he's like twirling around and say it's good for my neck or something like it made no sense

13:08Ben Mandelker: and then reza just gets on one of those like tracks what what are those what do you call those things again where you like you lie on it and then it goes backwards and then your feet

13:16Ronnie Karam: are above your head and you know now that i've tried my dad has one of those for his back and you hang upside down like a vampire those are really fun i forget what those are called but

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15:46Ronnie Karam: and plan purchased we go to uh tannin and greg's house and they're setting up for her party because she's launching skin by tannin farm to face organic oil farm to face i actually think that's i please

16:03Ben Mandelker: do not if someone says this is farm to face what i'm thinking is like goat shit i'm like you're putting goat shit on my face like just saying like freshly harvested natural ingredients but farm to face is i just think of like manure i think of chicken feet i don't let me to me like for some reason farm to table sounds delicious farm to face i'm just thinking the worst things

16:25Ronnie Karam: i'm putting on my face yeah also you're all y 'all's faces look crazy just call it farm to fable because you do look kind of like a children's book character at this point all of you so um she's like i was very close to harm to face by the way i just want to say yeah harm to face yeah um so um she's like yeah this party's a big deal because it's the launch of a new business so i'm kind of terrified and her guy greg is like hey what about the house guy situation is that stressing you out she's like yeah because mer said something about how she said to her that she was not going to come say hi to me at that party i am so mad how she was going to not say hi to me, but then she did say hi to me.

17:09Ben Mandelker: Well, I saw Bombshed today, and they said they're going to be at the event. Well, maybe she'll come and say hi to us at our house. I don't know. I mean, it's my business launch. I want a good vibe. I want positivity. I just want people who want to be there.

17:26Ben Mandelker: At this point, like, so that point with what MJ told me about Sky, I really don't care if they come or not. I'm going to say this right now. I guarantee that most people actually really don't want to be there. Like, oh, wow, I get to go to a skincare launch event at my friend's house. Oh, my God.

17:39Ronnie Karam: You guys going to that big face oil launch party at Taunting's? In Taunting's backyard? Can't wait. It's the event of the century.

17:48Ben Mandelker: Can't wait to go to that face oil party that smells like a farm. Can't wait.

17:53Ronnie Karam: Can't wait for that goat shit on the face party. I do love Bombshod, though. I think Bombshod is the standout of the season. I like saying his name.

18:04Ben Mandelker: I'll be at like the supermarket and I'll be like Bombshod I can just say his name in my head I just like saying it has a nice name to it Bombshod

18:13Ronnie Karam: So Greg gets another gift for Tanin Greg is basically cheating Can we just call it like it is? I mean how many gifts is he going to bring this season? That man is cheating on you So it's a shadow box She's got a product in it And she's like wow Greg has really been an angel supporting me He's made so much effort towards communication and romance too and he's like yeah she made a profit passion project i just love her they love each other okay so now mj comes to meet reza at a place called on the 30 and um she's like okay so the open house he's like oh my god the open house like you did so much i'm so proud of you that was like so impressive there was so much going on but you know what like when tommy came like adam was like tommy's here but then i felt like as soon as i walked outside he was ready to leave and i don't want to say it hurt my feelings but that's like the closest emotion i came up like i just wanted a fist bump reza you were trying to sue him and get him thrown in jail at a restraining order against him what do you expect he said you guys will talk after the

19:23Ben Mandelker: season is over you are not getting a fist bump okay it's not gonna happen so mj's like tommy doesn't want to put himself in a position emotionally because what if he gets hurt again what if he gets disappointed what if he gets humiliated oh i'm sorry we're so we're concerned about tommy getting humiliated while he's sitting there farting and burping on camera for an entire

19:47Ronnie Karam: season tommy is humiliating every i'm humiliated every time tommy comes on tv yeah yeah but what about you what about you being a single married person at every event because you're not sparkling the way you used to sparkle he's not there because you have a restraining order against him even if you got it taken away why are you acting like it's so crazy that her you are the reason her husband's not at these events i mean tommy's also the reason all right we have to mention that every time tommy's at fault for what tommy did okay yeah but for resident just speak oh my feelings You're a monster, okay?

20:24Ben Mandelker: I'm starting to get a little concerned for my friend. She had her twilight open and her husband didn't even show up. I'm not really hearing her say anything positive about Tommy and I'm worried for her. Now that all this like sweeping under the rug is starting to accumulate a lot of dust. So MJ says that she's like fighting for this marriage and you know, I know you didn't bring up divorce but you know, I looked at my kid, you know, I was the exact same age as my kid when my parents split up and you know she's like there's no way i'm gonna that like i'm gonna be

20:55Ronnie Karam: another statistic in my family tree to the detriment of your happiness like i don't know why tommy doesn't want to hang out with me when every time i'm with you i'm trying to tell you to divorce him i just don't get it so mj is like you're crossing the line she says you know of

21:15Ben Mandelker: course i want to like work and improve things and you know i feel like we're so far apart but you know the love is there nobody knows what's best for me it's very very easy to judge from the outside but look i have to respect my husband i have to draw the line so i feel like mj is doing kind of like a perfunctory like hey i'm on camera standing up for tommy so maybe this will get him to shut up and shoot with me at last yeah and she's like well i'm trying to make my marriage

21:44Ronnie Karam: better but i don't want to be judged while i'm doing it and he's like judged i'm just telling you to leave him i'm not judging your marriage i'm just saying it's over okay do you complain when the do you do you say that the credits at the end of the golden girls are judging the golden girls no they're rolling because the show is over like bury them okay it's like done no more cheesecake

22:07Ben Mandelker: in the kitchen okay i'm very serious i'm gonna play the little invisible piano in front of me okay fingers tapping on the table i've had hesitation to open up to you because i don't want to get burned in trusting you and the last thing i want to do is give tommy something to hold on to to be like i fucking told you you can't trust him and so i was like well i thought i was coming to a friend and i thought we were at a place in our relationship where we trusted each other let me give myself some grace in navigating my relationship fine i'll never say one more thing

22:50Ronnie Karam: about your terrible marriage it's over already like whatever so um that's the end of that one so now we're in the car with sky and her family and uh they're like where are we going on vacation these this summer and she's like um we're gonna go visit the air one in greece or the air one in Bora Bora, I'm not really sure.

23:10Ben Mandelker: Although, to be fair, Bora Bora is what I call the valley. Oh, what a Bora Bora. So then Gigi goes to a salt cave with Reza Jax, which is, as you may remember from various Real Housewives, apparently this is like in every city. There's some strip mall in the suburbs where next to a Joe's Pizza and some GameStop, right in the middle there's like a come sit in the back room with salt on the walls and on the floor so they go to that and it's and reza jacks is like it's been a long couple of weeks lots of drama so i thought this would be a neat place to show gold nessa like how come how do i how i calm down because you know she needs that a lot sometimes yeah so he lays in the sand and she's walking on

24:00Ronnie Karam: his back and stuff and say oh my god did you just get hard he's like no so she's like i'm just such a man eater in my natural state of being and he's just an appetizer for me me intimately conessa

24:19Ben Mandelker: dangerous and i'm sexy too the danger turns into sexy if you don't control it or maybe it's the

24:28Ronnie Karam: other way around i'm so bad so he's like oh my god i'm so stressed from trying to make this friend group work and she's like but sky like kept fucking with everybody at the fucking table and my friend tan tan yeah you know that's what i call her because we're like this we're intimate we're intimately gg my friend tan tan genuinely was fucking hurt you don't hurt fucking tan tan

24:53Ben Mandelker: sky has been saying so many bad things about me about my friends about the valley she pissed me off she's pissing off my friends she's pissing off vineland boulevard i don't like the bitch

25:08Ronnie Karam: she says that she went under the she went below the belt which i'm not really sure she went below the belt but i guess by saying the guy sucks this guy like i don't like going to circus liquors wow don't say that about the valley don't be clownist so um she's like i can taste the salt he's like yeah and it's coming from you because you're salty bing season two

25:36Ben Mandelker: i know and by the way no also let's not overlook gg once again reminding us that she's a bad girl She's like, I hope she doesn't talk shit about me because we don't want Loch Nessa to come back. I just got out of juvie and I learned some things. I'm trying to be good, but I can be really bad. Watch out.

26:00Ronnie Karam: Don't interrupt it. This comma girl. She's on a rampage.

26:05Ben Mandelker: That's right. I can put on a leather jacket and choose some gum. Scare you real good. Okay.

26:13Ronnie Karam: So now Tommy and MJ go to therapy and he's wearing a button up shirt and a tie and glasses. So he's really making an effort, you know, physically to show that he's not. Well, this is how you know he's wrong, by the way, because if he feels like he already has to like dress up for the first time we've ever seen him dress up since his wedding just to impress the therapist, then, you know, you're in the wrong a bit.

26:35Ben Mandelker: Right. So they go to the the office of Dr. Waspivan Wasperson. I love this lady. she comes in all glammed up she looks like she reminds me of like deborah rush uh wonderful character actress deborah rush if you know where you know her if you don't well wake her up she's great and uh she comes in she's like hello i'm dr marshall and so mj's like well we were just talking about tommy's anger issues so i'm glad that we can get started let's not forget yeah yeah i mean let's get into what's wrong with me it's me it's all me i'm like taylor swift i'm I'm the problem. It's me. Okay, let's do it.

27:11Ronnie Karam: What's this going to be? One of those therapies. You got to punch a pillow and shit. Like, what am I going to do? Like pick a booger out of my nose, make it do a shape and tell you what picture I see. This is a bunch of bullshit. I mean, of course we're going to talk about me. Of course we're not going to talk about her. It's all me. I'm wearing a button up shirt. Who the fuck wants to talk about me? And he's going off already. And this lady, I mean, I think that they're probably in therapy in Calabasas or something. It's probably local because she looks so snotty and she looks like she's just judging Tommy from the second he walks in.

27:44Ronnie Karam: And rightly so, because he's acting like an idiot from the very start of it. And then he gives us his sob story, which is a legit sad story. But he's like, I got no problem with therapy. You know, my mom died at 13. No, dad, trust me. I've been going to therapy for a very long time. I don't know that that's true. I mean, the other stuff I get, but you don't come off as someone who's gone to therapy for a long time. Did he mean Dave and Busters?

28:10Ben Mandelker: I think he had a mistake there. I've been going to therapy for a long time. You know, I love playing the ski ball in therapy. No, he obviously has a very traumatic backstory, and it's actually very heartbreaking. And for people who did not watch Oz of Sunset, he goes into it more there. And it's like, it's very emotional. And he's definitely a man with a, like, he has turbulent emotions and they're very raw. And I think that's actually what's very appealing about him is that you see him grapple with this stuff and you feel like he's trying to do the right thing. But he's also kind of just like, kind of like broken in many ways.

28:45Ben Mandelker: So Dr. Marshall's like, okay, well, tell me what brings you in here today. I've got another appointment about 25 minutes. So let's wrap this up. Okay. Yeah.

28:55Ronnie Karam: I scheduled you right before lunch. Not that I'm going to eat it, but I do still like to stare at a sandwich in a magazine. So please, let's get through this. But another red flag is Tom. He's telling us all this stuff. And he's like, you know, I've been to therapy, but a lot of the therapists that we've dealt with suck. They suck. Yeah, because they all tell you that you're yelling, Tom. Yes. You know? And Tommy's like, well, that means all the therapists suck. No, they don't. You know? It's like yelling at the ref. So he's like, marriage, right? That's what brings us here. And MJ's like, we've been married for seven years, and those were years that were rough.

29:31Ronnie Karam: And I would express dissatisfaction in the connection. He's like, oh, wow, guys, I'm not perfect. It's just so many critiques. Jeez. It's like, what are you, Paula Abdul? It's like, I can't even make dinner without her saying it's a little pitchy dog. I mean, come on.

29:49Ben Mandelker: And then we see a montage of MJ being like, can you tuck in your shirt? can you like try to eat that food over your plate? Do you need a napkin for the ketchup on your stomach? Could you please poop in the toilet? So Dr. Marshall's like, well, you know, whenever couples fight about, you know, whatever they fight about, it's usually downstream of something deeper that propels the criticism, which in your case I think is, MJ, it's unmet needs and disappointment or longing for something more, maybe a husband who doesn't talk like a cartoon character from the 1950s, right? What the fuck? Am I hitting something here?

30:26Ronnie Karam: Unmet needs? Disappointment? What the fuck? Like, I don't do any of that. You know what I mean? What are we... What is this a joke? What are you, Seinfeld? It's Seinfeld, everybody. Unmet needs. Come on.

30:40Ben Mandelker: Hold on. Just writing this down to laugh about with my other therapist friends at lunch in a second. Okay. I just... I got that. Thank you. This is how she feels, though.

30:49Ronnie Karam: All right. All right. Okay. That's how we feel. Okay, cool.

30:52Ben Mandelker: Okay, well, we're just talking about how both of you feel right.

30:57Ronnie Karam: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I got it. I got it. Guess what?

30:59Ben Mandelker: Another sucky therapist back here.

31:03Ronnie Karam: Hold on, hold on. I'm writing a Yelp review right now. This therapist sucks. This therapist is trash. What the fuck is an unmet mean? Unmet mean. Bullshit. It's a bunch of bullshit. She's like, okay. Now, you know, can we, he's, oh, she's saying part of being a couple, is having friends together and social events together. So you being around her friends is something that I would really work on. He's like, oh God, that's ridiculous. You know how many parties I've been to where she's abandoned me the second that we walked in there? And especially like, I don't like being around people where I got nothing in common with.

31:37Ronnie Karam: Well, you know, I'm sorry, but we can't all be at NASCAR every day.

31:43Ben Mandelker: Yeah. I think that also, like if it's a work event, I think that, you know, part of bringing like your your significant other to a work event is you have them as like an island to go back to if things are weird or awkward but you also know like their role also is their their support i think they're supposed to support you either by being next to you or just by being in the room so that way if you can go off and go solo and do your networking or whatever but you always know you can go back to them and like tommy for him to be like wow i've always been abandoned at a party well i mean sir like sometimes she just has to work i mean i know not all parties are work parties but i sort of get the sense that he's talking about these things with the shots of

32:25Ronnie Karam: sunset yeah but i mean tommy who is tommy gonna feel you know that he has stuff in common with

32:35Ben Mandelker: yeah also like make friends so nobody talk to people talk to yeah you have to make an effort

32:40Ronnie Karam: you don't know if you're gonna have anything in common unless you like make an effort all you have to do is really sit there and smile. Most people just want to see how you're reacting to them. They don't give a shit about you or what's going on in your life. So if you can just sit in a room and smile and say, what do you do? Then you're fine. That's all 90 % of this shit is. But he doesn't want to make the effort. And this poor doctor is like, but can you see how it's maybe the same cycle? MJ, you present a need for being in a partnership. Tommy, you think about when you're minimized or diminished or asked to not, you know, burp out Taylor Swift songs.

33:18Ronnie Karam: And then MJ, you know, you get upset because you're alone. But Tommy, you get upset and then you leave her alone. Do you understand? And he's like, oh, whatever. Whatever, man. Okay, this is me. All right. We're sitting here talking like, oh, hey, Tommy, what are you going to do to fix this? Huh? What are you going to do? Like, what am I, a pep oils guy? What are you coming in for an oil change? This isn't my fucking job. Fuck you guys.

33:43Ben Mandelker: And I love this moment where he's like, oh, it feels like I've got a, oh, wow, like MJ's got everything figured out, but I've got to work on my anger. Oh, wow, I'm the one that's got issues. I'm the one that's got the problem. And she just looks at him and goes, I think you do need to work on your anger. I just love, she's like, yeah, that's exactly right. He's screaming.

34:00Ronnie Karam: He's screaming at the, he's, I mean, I know we do his voice like that all the time, but he's literally, oh, yeah, like, yeah, Tommy got a fucking anger issue. Yeah, that's what you're coming for. call him he's got this she's like yeah you she's got her finger on the button under her desk like

34:17Ben Mandelker: but she's just also giving them that like waspy stare like sir you should be so lucky that you get to sit on the sofa but when she says you do have to work on that asshole uh i love that because i almost feel like yeah yeah he was almost like looking for a no no no no no we you both have to work on things and she was like no you have to work on your anger i was like yes yes she was

34:41Ronnie Karam: giving him that look like someone's about to like spray her uh windshield wiper at a stoplight you know she's just like 100 please don't okay yeah well i don't have cash so you realize we are not sitting in the outfield of a mets game right now okay work on your anger well yeah but you know what i don't get angry for no reason because there's very few compliments there's one thing you know i don't get caught with my compliments like oh for fuck's sake tommy you put the lid down congratulations here's your blue fucking ribbon so then he's like you know when my mom died i moved in with my grandparents and they would fight and they would say terrible things to each other and all they did was talk negative and they and and i didn't like it so i left yeah but you're doing the same thing like do you not see what you're like do you hear yourself right right dude i mean

35:28Ben Mandelker: it's always shocking but this is a very human thing which is that people like they are scarred by their upbringings and and i feel like on some level they're thinking i never want to repeat that while they are actively repeating it so tommy is saying how we lived on the street and and that's she goes and he says that's how i feel a lot of the time that she speaks to me like that she's like oh you feel criticized is that is that how you feel it's hard to tell because you're screaming all the time and um she's like yeah that sounds really terrible you had to live on the street and not even here in calabasas i mean living on the street in calabasas beautiful

36:02Ronnie Karam: right you had to live on the street in queens oh my god so she's like yeah he's like you know every time he's like i was living on the street and when i feel when she speaks to me that way i feel and she says criticize and he's like yes that's it and she's like yeah that sounds horrible living on the street but you know of course you're going to feel unimportant and disposable but like you still have to do stuff you know and she's talking about what it means to be triggered and getting reactivated over and over again and uh he's like yeah i don't doubt it and so i'm just putting her hand on his knee um and she's talking about how heartbreaking it is to hear how he grew up because she knows this you know and she's like and it's a shitty cycle um but at the same time like as adults it's our job to not do that you know and it's not easy i mean listen i'm spending my entire adult life not becoming my mother so i'm a red wig away you know but i think that like

37:04Ben Mandelker: i think what's so sad for tommy if i can read between the lines and i don't really know the full story of him and his treatment etc but when he says every therapist i see is so sucky you get the sense that he's trying to work on this even that's why he says i'm okay with therapy he's trying to work on it but like the fact that every therapist is sucky makes me feel like he just can't hear some tough truths he probably needs to hear and so he's still sort of stuck i don't know that's just my my inference as a viewer watching it it's obviously a little reckless to do that with people's but also it's tv so who cares but um i kind of get the sense that people have been trying to get through to him and he just he can't hear and he thinks he's he thinks he's open but i don't

37:50Ronnie Karam: know if he really is open he's stubborn and he wants everything to be easy for him and handed to him you know like it's very easy for him to just kind of marry somebody who's on tv and then just kind of live off of them you know which is what he's doing and then any kind anytime there's a problem it's them and it's not him and he's just going to be stubborn and he's going to yell and He's going to argue and he's going to end up alone. And that's what he fucking gets, you know? So he doesn't have to make the changes if he doesn't want to, but it's not anyone else's responsibility to put up with that shit forever, you know?

38:22Ronnie Karam: Well said. This Dr. Marshall is so funny. She goes, okay, here's going to be my final advice because I will never see you two again. You, Tommy, you need to get some trauma-informed therapy, okay? It doesn't have to be forever. Just like kind of raise your consciousness level, okay?

38:42Ben Mandelker: So my specialty are women whose husbands have cheated on them. And I think this is just really against my brand. So why don't you see some trauma-informed therapy? Thanks so much. God, no kidding.

38:56Ronnie Karam: She's like, you're a crash test dummy. So maybe get therapy for that. So MJ's like, yeah, you know, I feel like my partner needs to step up. So here we are. So now we go to Natasha and Amir holding hands. They're driving and they are going to the graveyard.

39:14Ben Mandelker: I'm just going to say I find, I've said before, I find this storyline to be actually very fascinating. I find it to be actually very emotional. It's a little boring though to me. I mean, I'm like, it's weird to be something so fascinating but also kind of boring. I mean, basically, they go to the gravestone. Like this is the big thing that they've been working towards. they go to the cemetery she comes face to face with it there's crying I'm getting choked I'm not getting choked up right now but I was like oh my god this is very emotional but there really isn't much more to say about it literally nothing funny happens here it's just two people going to a gravestone yeah here comes one right now

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40:20Ronnie Karam: So then we go back to MJ and Tommy's house and they're setting up for their podcast. And she's like, wow, so I wanted to tell you, I met with Reza and then next thing I know, he's giving me relationship advice. And then he came at me like, well you don't think your husband not coming around isn't being supportive and you know and that was a line that was crossed okay i know that you're supposed to tell your spouse everything but if you're trying to get your spouse to go hang around your friends this is not the way to do it

40:49Ben Mandelker: yeah what are you doing i think this was like mj's weird way of demonstrating that she has tommy's back and that she's not going to throw him to the wolves by tricking him into go into like shooting the tv show and then they got everyone comes after him like she's gonna have his back i think that's what she's trying to do but i don't see how this is helpful towards rebuilding

41:09Ronnie Karam: his relationship with reza yeah this is not a good move so it's like you know what last last time uh things with me and reza got so bad that you got infuriated went to his home you know destroyed property and then um wasn't you know you were in court and had to go to jail and stuff so you know what i'm gonna do to fix this i'm gonna tell you the shit that reza was talking about you like what are you doing what are you doing stop it so then we go to reza and adam talking about it and reza's like it made me feel so sad like you can't even tell anybody they're in a dead end relationship anymore and i'd just like to remind everybody again that reza um dumped Adam went on their wedding trip with his friends and left Adam at home and then married Adam in a surprise wedding at a restaurant where Adam didn't get to invite his friends so just for everyone sitting there listening to Reza talk about his personal or his perfect relationship this fucking guy so Adam's like well who knows maybe she was having a bad day and she'll be able to pull you to the side and be like i'm so sorry i snapped at you but there was no mint at the supermarket to make tabooly uh did my memory serve me correctly did adam's tabooly not make an appearance in the season finale of the show he wore it as a shirt oh you're right it was an interpretation i actually loved adam's shirt it was very cute i have actually like adam I have that like 70s clip art or 60s clip art as a picture in my house.

42:50Ronnie Karam: I love it.

42:51Ben Mandelker: I actually am like happy for Adam. I feel like he's so happy in the, like, since they moved to the valley, you know, remember they used to live in Atwater Village and it was like their sad home with where the assault happened with Tommy. But now that they live in the valley, Adam just putters around. He makes tabbouleh. He waters plants. He rotates around in some archaic fitness contraption. He's living his best life. I'm really happy for him. Except for the tantric yoga. We don't have to have that again. but everything else adam's you know living like an idealized tame gay life yeah yeah he's living

43:20Ronnie Karam: the tame gay life he was born to live so then we go to sky and bombshad and um she's showing him different outfits and she's like honestly is there any way we can just skip this party and not go and he's like i don't want to skip the party i want to go to it i'm not i want to support tanin and she came out with a really good moisturizer for dogs but i'm not really comfortable coming

43:43Ben Mandelker: he's like i got you you got me yeah disgusting you don't have me he's like i'm just gonna say straight out hey listen i'm here to support tannin and we'll just have this conversation another time another place hashtag bomb shot hashtag bomb shot advice she's like yeah you

44:04Ronnie Karam: think they're gonna let you just walk away from a conversation uh you know how they are and he's well they can't force you to talk and she's like oh really have you met them before okay you one leaves the other one comes back the other one comes the other one leaves then the other one comes back she's so right too and he's like but you let them it's like what is she supposed to do stand there with a baseball bat and she's like but they're growing fungus from every angle

44:29Ben Mandelker: these people i love this bitch she's so mean and cold and she's so right like it cannot be emphasized enough the fact that they put someone on the valley who hates the valley is just tremendous said bombshell's like don't let them you think you think you and tanin are ever going to be friends again she's we are friends but you know in a very different compartment cheap fungus growing compartment you know where they grow the mushrooms when they sell them the

44:57Ronnie Karam: supermarket that's what to mean is yeah so she says that she still considers turning a friend and so she's going to go support her even though she hates everybody there and she's like but you know the only way i'm coming is if you put this on and she gives him a red light mask and he's like get out of here you're not gonna put this on me see i know how to say no next thing you know

45:16Ben Mandelker: he's in the mask it's like oh i know fungus fungus now it's time for the big skincare launch and people start to show up. Gigi shows up with Dennis. He's in like this blue and white shirt. And Vida is there. I love that Vida just sort of putters around in the background of the group scenes. They just are like, I guess we have to invite Vida. She's so funny. She's just... She's worth it. I'm so glad they have her in every scene.

45:41Ronnie Karam: I know. Tony's like, hi, can I get you something to drink? No, I don't drink. So can I get you something else? Champagne.

45:54Ben Mandelker: one thing i'm gonna say is that um over the weekend so we did the the show at the fonda theater the ad which was great thank you to the fonda theater but um they had this amazing video wall normally when we do the crappies we have like a screen we do this sort of like a visual presentation the background of the nominees and everything and this venue had the had an enormous beautiful high res video wall and made everything look very glamorous but what was funny was that when we put the nominees up their faces were so big and i'll tell you having like a 25 foot tall vita face right behind you that was an image she was nominated for mother of the year and like that that bright red lip it was like boom that was the funniest thing just looking up behind and saying like giant Vita.

46:47Ben Mandelker: It's a striking visual for me.

46:50Ronnie Karam: So MJ gets there and she's telling Reza Jax that things are awkward with Reza. What does she do? And then look who's here. It's me. I don't want things to get weird. Can we talk for a second? Listen, I only have about 10 minutes to talk about your shit done relationship, okay? And then she's like, yeah, okay. so he's like i'm not happy with the way things went down and honestly my intention didn't translate and i feel like we took 20 steps back i felt the same way and i just feel like we've

47:24Ben Mandelker: worked way too hard and i can't have that conversation with you about my husband that's okay the thought of us going back to six years ago was literally like just unimaginable to me because that was when I wasn't able to see baby Shams. So they hug and he's like, I love Mers very much and I feel compassion. And if you want to keep sweeping things under the rug, that's okay. I love you. And no matter what you decide, I'm going to be here for you, despite your terrible decisions and repressed feelings about your own failing marriage.

47:58Ronnie Karam: Oh, the rezo support. It's just, it's like a warm hug. um so adam is wearing his valley girl diamonds necklace because you're my best friend gg i got you a necklace that says tea for tabooly

48:13Ben Mandelker: then dennis and gg sit down to have a very important business meeting okay dennis we gotta figure out what's next for us he's like yeah so i like the way things that go on with both businesses yeah me too what are those businesses again ah it's like well i got great news my boy dan wants to give you a billboard on the vegas strip let's just throw money at the

48:35Ronnie Karam: vegas strip that'll solve everything right gg stop it stop it sales are gonna go through the roof when you're driving to vegas you're gonna see intimately gg and think wow i could have that woman's head up my ass if i just gave over 20 and then don't forget about valley girl Wow, dildos and diamonds. I've really made it, Dennis.

48:58Ben Mandelker: Well, the good news about Valley Girl is that we've got the diamonds. They're great quality. Nothing shady about this operation whatsoever. And now we've just got to handle the website, the marketing. Probably have to get a permit from the city, start an LLC, maybe register with, get some distribution. You know, just minor little things. And by the way, I found two houses that I think would be good for you. Would be really good. They're in a gated community where I live. And that's where you're really close, over 4 ,000 square feet. So he's basically like, I found houses for you where, I don't know.

49:28Ben Mandelker: This guy is so shady. He just finds, he found houses. And I don't know. I don't trust anything about this.

49:35Ronnie Karam: Yeah, I don't either. And he's like, you know, it's on the higher side, but I'm still going to chip in. She's like, wow, I really won. So yeah, Gigi, she's got businesses handed to her and now a house. So, you know, there you go. She won. So then we go to Vida and she goes up to Reza and Reza and she goes, Reza? I want you to meet somebody whose name is Reza. And then Amir is asking, so they're all like, oh, my God, is Sky coming? And Adam's like, they're on Persian Standard Time. P.S.T.

50:07Ben Mandelker: Yeah. And they're like, oh, look at you, Adam. Adopting Reza's. Do you have that card, Adam? Do you have that card?

50:15Ronnie Karam: It's called code switching, bitches. don't be such a white girl that is so white girl of you bitches be like i'm lead i did it

50:28Ben Mandelker: so greg is like greg is saying no if it's if sky doesn't come it'll be really fucked up and tanin's like no it's not i mean after what mj said i think i'm like i just don't know what to say and natasha is like what did she say she's like you're not saying hi to her and she goes she'll come say hi to me and who talks like that that's what mj told me i'm hoping she said it in some other better way so it's a good old-fashioned you're not going to say hi to her fight so stupid but you guys did say hi to each other tawny come on we need to fight about this i'm gonna fight

51:03Ronnie Karam: with her because she said she wasn't gonna say hi to me before she said hi to me what so um this is their big fight and then uh sky and bombshot finally arrive and everyone's like oh my god oh my god sky bomb shutter here what are we gonna do and um like basically the ogs like rez mj and

51:23Ben Mandelker: gg are like oh how are we gonna go like ambush sky we're gonna ambush sky because they're gonna you know this is what they do this is what their group does so uh they come in and janine's like hi and sky's like how's it going it's like good how are you i'm good you look fabulous thanks so do you i mean what a bitch am i right sky is such a fucking bitch saying hi how's it going you look fabulous

51:46Ronnie Karam: and then everyone's in the corner pointing well she was late I'm gonna tell her about it and then Natasha's like wow it's so nice seeing you guys talking and this guy's like oh you're funny why wouldn't we not talk this crazy so you know this guy's saying oh nice job great party and Tony says well I've got to say like there's an elephant in the room is it dry we could moisturize it with your moisturizer

52:15Ben Mandelker: like lubiderm commercials you know they do like the alligator you could do elephant so she's like no i just i feel like from our last conversation i felt like we ended it on a good note as much as we could and i think there's a lot to get over but when i was at mj's party she said you said something like oh well she she'll come and say hi to me this guy's like well she said why did i go say hi i said of course i'm not gonna say hi when she's sitting with a bunch of people i don't even talk to and then it like cuts to basically the rest of the cast like staring at them like look at her

52:50Ronnie Karam: look at the exact same thing standing in a line against a wall staring at her getting ready to take turns to go get her and uh she's like yes you know i said when she comes around i will definitely say hi that is how the conversation was she goes okay well that's very different than what she told me but do not take anybody's word come to me and ask me and i will tell you exactly what happened i won't see you very well because i will be squinting like this i will tell you what

53:19Ben Mandelker: happened which will always be something like i said something while i was wishing i was at ero one this guy turns like well this is me doing it i'm asking you now well because these people they love to sit down and twist and turn and this is how they live their life and i can't i can't you You know, so then Reza Natasha and Gigi are I guess with an earshot because Reza's like sky saying to tanning that we like to twist things around She also said that Natasha you're a bitch Gigi you're on hinge and that I am actually secretly straight How could you even say that I twist things around?

53:53Ronnie Karam: They twist things around they who's they? Us, but what are we twisting? What are we twisting? I'll tell you what I'm gonna twist her head right off of her neck that's stupid are you gonna say something to her i'm gonna have to say something well it's all our fault somebody needs to say something so um sky is like oh my god look these hyenas are waiting

54:16Ben Mandelker: to jump by the way the hyenas just look around please they are like they say such simple things

54:22Ronnie Karam: and then they create such something completely different look at these stupid people over here

54:27Ben Mandelker: my goodness like it cuts to them and they're like foaming at the mouth and like pawing at the ground And I'm like, so it's like, okay, well, instead of instead of going at to each other, which is what I would expect from us, you know, I want us to fight for us and for to have a fucking conversation after and be like, bitch, that wasn't cool. And I'll be like, fuck you. And then we can just move on. It's like, I agree 100 percent with you. And we can even have that moment outside of the valley. Maybe we can talk about that. Maybe in West Hollywood. New Erewhon opened this weekend.

55:00Ronnie Karam: My favorite part of this is me saying, bitch, can I just say this? Okay, well, that would work. Okay, you know, from the bottom of my heart, I'm not even being sarcastic. I love you. You know I love you. Now we cry. Let us cry. Oh, I'm going to cry.

55:13Ben Mandelker: I love that Skye evidently says I love you sarcastically enough that she goes, I'm not even being sarcastic this time when I say I love you.

55:22Ronnie Karam: Oh, I love you. I have to do that. because when I'm being sincere with people, they just look at me and I'm like, no, I'm not kidding.

55:30Ben Mandelker: I do feel like that was a big first guy to be like, just going to say, I'm not being sarcastic. I love you. I felt like that was really sincere of her.

55:39Ronnie Karam: Yeah. So they call each other idiots and then hug. And so now they see a light at the end of the tunnel. So they're happy. And Taneen's like, you know, you're my little sister, even though you're older, bitch. See, it's already working. um so they're making jokes and then we go to bombshot and amir and natasha and natasha's like oh my god they're hugging and reza's like oh really well i could hear her talking shit about smj and tanin wasn't defending us let's get her too i know he's like oh like i can't believe this

56:12Ben Mandelker: group would be accused of twisting things as reza like they're just reconciling and really all they said all that what's her face said was like no this is what i said i didn't want to go over there because all those people don't like me and i don't like them so i was gonna say how do you after you were there like oh wow tannin wasn't defending us wow i wonder why you're being accused of twisting

56:32Ronnie Karam: things around exactly so tannin tells them you know she sky apologized and she started the conversation and then mj goes to who to me oh so um amir's like she didn't bring up anyone else well she did bring them up and not in a good way you know she said they're gonna come attack me she did say that oh really she said who's gonna come attack her what i'm gonna kill her

57:04Ben Mandelker: she just wants to bark and talk about my friends and i'm tired of it so if you think you're gonna you're good at being tough let me show you what tough is i was like wow you're actually doing

57:16Ronnie Karam: our impersonation of you that's just sad she's really she's literally she's literally acting

57:23Ben Mandelker: like a 1985 bully in like punky brewster hey kid if you want to be part of our group you have to drink this glass of raw egg and ketchup okay i'm like okay let's relax gg so tony gives a speech

57:40Ronnie Karam: and thanks everyone for coming and then um they start taking pictures and stuff so someone asked sky to take a picture and right behind sky is gigi reza and reza jacks and gigi's like can i put something on accident and reza's like yeah do it do it do it but it'll be an accident though and uh reza's like no come here and he tries to pull her away but she's like what would happen if i put it on her and he's like please don't do it and she does she just throws it on her she throws a drink all over she acts like whoops and throws a drink all over sky even though this

58:13Ben Mandelker: was she does this because not from any sort of firsthand beef that she was in it's because someone told her there's some that she was talking shit i mean there was a moment before where mj came up to uh to sky and goes are you guys talking shit about us and sky just goes oh fuck off so like there is some like firsthand hostility but like gg it's not your fight in the sense that like like you you didn't interact with sky about this so you just threw booze on her and like you know if someone did that to gg she would be like oh wow you really started it now it was such a stupid thing it was also really what we know what it was was a desperate attempt to have a reality show moment to get into the trailer to do something with the season finale she was just being a reality star in that moment and it just was kind of sad well they've pinned their whole season on fighting

59:05Ronnie Karam: with sky and sky's like i'm not fighting with these idiots like i'm not giving them that and so she didn't get to have the fight you know she had this fight planned in her head where she was going to throw wine all over her at the end of it and she didn't get the fight so she just threw

59:17Ben Mandelker: the wine anyway you know yeah that's basically exactly it right i wish that sky had called the

59:24Ronnie Karam: police because that's assault we've learned yeah because we've seen a lot of drinks thrown on these shows so now we know that is assault okay yeah and just normally i wouldn't say that on a housewife show or anything but on this gg's a monster and she already has come up on her physically before and gg needs to be cut at the quick it's ridiculous she's like it and gg's like an

59:44Ben Mandelker: uninteresting monster that's the problem like sky is like a fun campy arch monster whereas gg is just like again it seems like she's just trying to like be something that she saw out of archie or whatever and just is like uh it just feels lame it doesn't feel authentic i mean she's

1:00:01Ronnie Karam: even named luck nessa and that's the most boring monster of all time like what does that monster even do it just like kind of swims and people see it occasionally yeah it like never even attacks anyone it's like not even scary it's like it's not it's just like hey guys um i know you haven't seen me for a couple hundred years i am still here i'm selling anal dildos now with my face on it

1:00:21Ben Mandelker: okay oh my god look at that monster oh no oh no they see me okay i gotta go away now i gotta go it's basically adam adam is the loch ness monster um ow gg i was just trying to take a photo of you

1:00:35Ronnie Karam: for the national inquirer so she's in she's furious and she's like get this fucking idiot out of my set right now get out of here get out of here gg and adam's just sitting there you know adam's a little shithead too that's why i'm not happy never mind i take it all back gardening and his, you know, stupid gardening and his happy life and his head machine. He's a little asshole, too. And he's sitting there, like, smirking like it's so funny. And Gigi's like, what? There's no problem over here. No, I'm being serious. You get out or I'm calling the police and I'm being serious. Get her out. And Adam's like, you mess with my best friend, Gigi.

1:01:12Ronnie Karam: You don't mess with Persian chicks. Am I right, girlfriend? One Persian chick to another. And meanwhile,

1:01:21Ben Mandelker: bombshot who's like i will have your back no matter what he's like just off in a corner just like laughing with the guys and they're like what happened does bot they're like bombshot has no clue he has no idea bombshell's like so this guy's inside and she's like screaming she's like this girl is psycho psycho and um they are like then you know they're just they're just trying to calm her down and gg's like fuck her fuck her so greg goes up to bombshot and he's like um hey do you know what's going on with your wife he's like no what's happened is she having a lovely time today like um she just went crazy which by the way she didn't just go crazy gg threw a drink at her

1:02:01Ronnie Karam: yeah i know i like how they all repeat these stories so bombshot goes in and she's like she threw a drink at me from the back and he's like oh she's an animal an animal and then to gg and adam adam's like um i think she left i don't see her they're laughing and um in front tannin is like guys i can't have my day in like this what are what are people going to think of tannin

1:02:24Ben Mandelker: moisturizer and sky's like babe i'm sorry i was not doing anything it's just i know you weren't you know i will never put on a show okay and if i do it's not going to be in the valley it'll be in like you know century city right and so it's like obviously i think i'm more medical nessa because Sky didn't do anything to trigger this. And I don't really know what to do. I just, I'm just trying to bring some peace to the situation. And if not peace, at least some oil to put on your animals.

1:02:53Ronnie Karam: Yeah. And Tanin's like, come on, bombshot. And he's like, no, I'm not going to leave my wife. And she's like, you tell her to leave. Sky's like, you tell her to leave right now. So Reza's like, oh my God, what happened? What happened? Oh, he's so excited. And Gigi, so Tanin asked Gigi what happened. And she's like, well, I was standing like this. And then, you know, she got too close to my proximity because she wanted to take pictures. And I said, you know what? Should I throw my drink? And then Adam said, yes, you should, Persian girlfriend. And I said, okay, whoops. And then, whoops, the drink went all over her.

1:03:28Ronnie Karam: I regret nothing. I did it.

1:03:33Ben Mandelker: Tanene's like, Adam, he goes, I never said that. What? I did it. Okay. Put me back in jail. Put me in lockup. Take me away from General Pop, okay? Because I'm dangerous. Don't make sure I don't get a shiv in my hand because I'm going to cut a bitch. Be careful of Gigi.

1:03:53Ronnie Karam: I don't know what happened after the wine flu. I mean, what gravity does is up to John Mayer and the Earth, okay?

1:04:01Ben Mandelker: Yeah, God, I'm such a bad girl that when I'm threatening someone, I invoke John Mayer.

1:04:10Ronnie Karam: rock and roll bitches uh so greg's like can we just not do that she's like but i'm not touching anybody look at me not touching anybody and they make her promise she goes okay i promise so now sky is talking to tani and tani is like oh i told her she cannot ever throw wine again

1:04:29Ben Mandelker: oh wow great way to stand up for your friend no sure gg gg is known for being for being a rule follower so i'm really glad that tinian added that rule to their group dynamic but kick her out

1:04:41Ronnie Karam: how do you just go up and be like please don't throw wine on anyone else get her the fuck out

1:04:46Ben Mandelker: of here what an asshole so amir has to talk to gg like gg's one of his kids he's like if you were her what would you do oh you can't say that because i would never ever have been that pretentious if I were her.

1:05:01Ronnie Karam: Oh, really, lady who's insisting on a five-bedroom house with no job? You fucking crazy person. So then Resajax gives a speech about celebrating Taunin. And then Sky tells us, look at this group. There's going to be a lot of people who don't like me or who hate my guts. But guess what? I don't care.

1:05:27Ben Mandelker: I did hear that the Hailey Bieber smoothie at Erewhon has been discontinued and I'm wondering if Sky is okay so Reza Jack says in Persian culture dancing is a sure way to get everybody to forget about their bullshit their grudges and bring them together to be present life has ups and downs so fuck it so they start dancing and everything and now it's another day

1:05:51Ronnie Karam: Other cultures danced. So we go to, yeah, the next day. And Greg comes to Tani's room. And he misses her. And she's like, well, you could sometimes sleep here. And then we go to Adam and Reza's. And they're getting a couple's massage. I mean, these two are just doing shit that I never want to see them do on this show. It's like, how many things can you guys do that I just don't need to see on my TV? Then we go to Natasha and Amir's. they're playing with the kids and still talking about should we have another kid

1:06:25Ben Mandelker: reza jacks is playing with his dog he goes i'm open to a long-term relationship doesn't mean that i've locked up my thingy you know you think i'm celibate are you crazy and he does that thing where he like lowers his chin but looks at you from the top of his eyeballs like okay and then cooking class sky and bombshadow and cooking class and sky's like you know it's not just about me and him it's about our kids and we're very dedicated he's like yes and of course there are challenges and of course there's ups and downs and you know by the way how many times can they say that there are ups and downs in this episode i just realized we've said that phrase like 15 times over the

1:06:58Ronnie Karam: course of the past hour so like it's ending guys talk about ups and downs so i'm teaching my children how to cook and also how to call the bartender when they are supposed to

1:07:11Ben Mandelker: now at gg's house um they're moving into her new house adult life is hard and it's always gonna be hard and i'm okay with it because i've done hard time

1:07:24Ronnie Karam: well we're grown now i don't know we may not be popping bottles but we're still popping up bitches and mj's like yeah the more we live the more we go on different paths but i forgot what i was saying

1:07:40Ben Mandelker: and then and then at mj and tommy's house the whole family's there with vita it's like a sitcom ending they're like oh wow look at this everything worked out real well and there's a caterpillar wow look at that caterpillar the caterpillar's like sir you have anger issues why you shut the

1:07:55Ronnie Karam: up you caterpillar and then we see a text on the screen that says october 17th mercedes files for divorce a month later she moved out tommy moved into a new place less than a mile away the therapist has closed the shop changed her name and moved to a different town dun dun dun uh can i say i

1:08:16Ben Mandelker: actually this is a case where i'm like we're not gonna pick up the cameras i mean mj and tommy have been like that's a long-standing bravo relationship i would have liked uh they couldn't

1:08:26Ronnie Karam: even make it to 10 episodes they're not gonna pick up cameras for an extra episode you mean to tack on to the end of this one or something yeah i'm like it just felt like they just just

1:08:35Ben Mandelker: they're like oh and by the way they're divorced like wait what well maybe that trend is finally

1:08:41Ronnie Karam: over the picking the cameras back up for the most obvious turn of events they just don't have the budget for it i'm sure that i think that's what that means but um yeah it was a it was a really

1:08:51Ben Mandelker: good season i felt like um i felt like it was i wish it was on at like a different time of the year you know we had a big bravo drought over the summer and i think this would have been a perfect thing to have on over the summer just because um i felt like there's a lot of stuff happening in this first quarter on bravo and just like i think honestly again traders sucked up so much space so i would like bravo to bring this show back and just put on a different time of the year when we can kind of give it the love it deserves yeah get on it bravo all right everybody thanks

1:09:21Ronnie Karam: so much for being here we will talk to you next time bye Bye.

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