#3247 Southern Hospitality S4E01: Weiner Takes All

0:00Ben Mandelker: What happens when there's so much that crap ends? Hello and welcome to Watch What Crap Ends, a podcast about all that crap on Bravo we just love to talk about, okay? I'm Ben Mandelker and joining me for the grand opening of the new season of Southern Hospitality is Mr. Ronnie Karam. Hi, Ronnie. How are you doing?

0:40Ronnie Karam: I don't know how the heck that happened, but I'm back. I'm back.

0:44Ben Mandelker: He is back, everyone. We are so excited because Southern Hospitality had a tremendous premiere. And if you're listening, chances are most of you watch the show. If you didn't, you really should watch it. It's so good. um before we get into that uh we wrote a newsletter that just came out a bonus newsletter you guys know we've just recently launched a newsletter feature or relaunched one here at crappins it lives on patreon everyone has access to it you don't have to be a patreon member but obviously we love our patreon members all uh but you know all the more but um we did a newsletter about the crappies and what our experience was with it leading up to it etc there's behind the scenes photos.

1:27Ben Mandelker: There's video from rehearsal, all sorts of really cool stuff. So go check that out if you want to know more about that experience. And honestly, be sure to watch that replay. It's not going to be around much longer. And once it's gone, it's gone. It was really a tremendous show. We had more guests than we've ever had before. And we had guests from all walks of life. We had a Backstreet Boys, Backstreet Boy guys. And we also had like people from the world of Bravo and all our podcasting friends. And again, a debt of gratitude to everyone who showed up for us on stage, who helped us put on this show.

1:59Ben Mandelker: It was such an undertaking and we love seeing everyone. And it was great. All our podcast friends, we have to cycle them in and out every year. So this year's batch that we put up on stage, it was great to see some familiar faces again. But anyway, enough about that. The point is go to watchrockwhackens.com and you will get access to all that, but definitely check that out. Also, bonus episodes. We got two this week and they're both free. These are free bonus episodes. The first one is Rob has a podcast crossover where we talk about traders and Survivor. Second one, we're recording right after this.

2:35Ben Mandelker: I'm so excited about it, but I don't want to jinx it. I don't want to jinx any cancellations. So you guys just stay tuned. So that's coming up. And then all the usual stuff, Crap is on Demand video, blah, blah, blah.

2:46Ronnie Karam: I'm excited about it as well.

2:48Ben Mandelker: Ronnie is excited too, but I never want to speak for you. I never want to speak for you. What did you just say?

2:54Ronnie Karam: Just in case anyone's wondering.

2:56Ben Mandelker: Just in case anyone's wondering.

2:57Ronnie Karam: Just because you say, I'm excited. Well, I mean, I'm excited.

3:00Ben Mandelker: Ronnie is not excited. Why wasn't Ronnie excited?

3:03Ronnie Karam: Why was Ronnie pissed off? Ronnie hates it. So and so coming on, because then it makes me sound like an asshole. No, no. I'm just sitting here reading my texts while you do your speech. Well, I do.

3:12Ben Mandelker: I never. Listen, you're not. Look, you're not monolith. Okay. Uh, but for real, we actually are both excited for it, but you know what else? Let's talk about Southern hospitality because this show is so good. And I feel like we always kind of, when it's on, we are like, the show is so good. And when it's off, it gets, it just sort of gets overshadowed by bigger shows like summer house or the Valley or Salt Lake city or Miami, these big flashy shows, but Southern hospitality is doing the work. We have not had a season premiere like this in quite some time. It was like every single inch of this hour was filled with like drama.

3:52Ben Mandelker: You know, there was not, there were not any filler scenes here. It was like everything. It felt like it was bursting with activity. What did you think? Ronnie?

4:01Ronnie Karam: Loved it. Absolutely loved it. I texted you when I was watching it. Like, this is so good. I mean, it really, it really just starts off. And I feel like a lot of times people think we're being like Andy when Andy's always like, oh, my God, this season of Beverly Hills is amazing. As the kids would say off the chain. And then it's a terrible season. We don't lie to you. OK, we only say that we only gush when shit really is good and we want you to watch. And this shit was really, really good. There's a lot of people to be mad at. There's a lot of everybody is kind of a fuck up on the show. And they're all trying to get out of their fuck uppery in different ways.

4:37Ronnie Karam: And it's just so funny to watch it to me. And also they're all still working at the restaurant, which is crazy. Yeah.

4:43Ben Mandelker: I think like one thing that's like really great with the show is the fact that since they're in Charleston, they kind of can't cash in their fame the same way that the kids of Vanderpump rules can by living in Los Angeles. You know, I kind of feel like they are still stuck being waiters. Like we're in LA, they can go off and do cool LA things and ascend in that way. but like they're just like selling hot dogs and in from a cart in charleston like that's still just where they are and i think that's that's what keeps them pure for us yeah um well i mean the internet's global you know they still got their their uh influencing and stuff like that

5:26Ronnie Karam: but i guess what you're saying their pool their pool is smaller maybe so whatever whatever is keeping them down i say great because during vanderpump rules the old season i would say we need some kind of a trust fund where they could only earn a certain money amount of money a year and then the rest of the money they earned had to be put in a trust fund so they would always be forced to work at the restaurant and then once they were done then they can get their money you know and so it couldn't ruin them until later um but it looks like we don't need that for this show because they're all still ruined i would say maybe the only one who's like kind of getting out of that is maddie who's like oh my god i was just touring the whole country as a dj

6:07Ben Mandelker: I know that she was the only I agree she was the only one who sort of has been able to break the Charleston loop and I was trying to look at her tour because um I I want to see where she went I've gotta find I'm gonna pull up her touring poster because she definitely makes it sound like she went to like Ibiza and Coachella and she may very well have I just didn't look at the poster

6:27Ronnie Karam: probably like I probably did you say I mean she was on the she was on a Las Vegas building last year. I forgot.

6:33Ben Mandelker: But I also feel like she may have been doing like I don't know like some town in like Nebraska which by the way a gig is a gig. Well she probably does.

6:46Ronnie Karam: I mean we do. Who cares you know. I don't judge your money by the town it comes from that's for sure.

6:52Ben Mandelker: No it's only because on Bravo like I feel like I'm a little judger about those things but I wouldn't.

6:57Ronnie Karam: I'm judging about DJing in general because I think some people have like a super, like they have a super talent for it, you know, and they're really good and they're really creative and they do really cool mixes and creative things. But I think for a big part of it, it's not that it's just people pressing play and then fading up and down into the next song and just kind of picking playlists and stuff and not doing anything creative with it. So I've never really seen her. So I don't know what side of that she lands on, but when they, when she was saying, oh yeah, I've been touring and they show the tour poster of all the different DJs.

7:29Ronnie Karam: I thought, How long can DJing last? Because I don't think a lot of people put that much creativity into it. It's like you're really just going there to listen to somebody press play.

7:41Ben Mandelker: Yeah, I'm looking at her tour right now. She did the Maddie and Tay Love and Light tour. She did London. London, Kentucky, I should articulate. You bastard. dude. I was in Paris, Texas. Okay. So she went to Alabaster, Alabama, Yandotin, Mississippi, Cumberland, Maryland, Port Riley, Kansas, Fort Moore, Georgia, Arnold's Park, Iowa, Lamar, Colorado, Buckeye, Arizona, Marion, Illinois, Worcester, Worcester, mass okay morgantown west virginia i don't know yeah i don't know i don't i don't know i don't

8:30Ronnie Karam: know geography so to me i just see a lot of places that you went so good for you okay so we start

8:36Ben Mandelker: make that money make that money dj matteries it doesn't matter where you go make that money

8:41Ronnie Karam: so we start with a um super dramatic five months ago in new york at the reunion i hear something happened last night with maddie well uh he came to a hotel room yeah we had to tell maddie the truth that trevor trevor never cheated with sammy and the brad made it all up don't don't don't now we're in the present day and brad's like at the reunion i was exposed for lying about maddie's ex-boyfriend cheating on her back to the reunion i don't know it's real anymore

9:18Ben Mandelker: it's like it's that was like i had forgotten about literally all of this shit and it was cracking me up like maddie's maddie's existential crisis on the watch what happened stage she's like i don't know what's real anymore she was like in the matrix she was just completely gone and lost and confused it was her brain shattering in half it was wonderful

9:45Ronnie Karam: last night to deflect off yourself i mean she's like no no no not at all no no not at all not at all deflecting us ourselves um yes it was but who cares i mean that's so wrong that's so wrong you lied to this girl about her boyfriend cheating she dumped the girl ended up with joe And now she's like, was Trevor my guy? Like, was that the one? And by the way, Joe knew this too.

10:11Ben Mandelker: Yeah, I have to say that is so fucked up. You fucked up, Joe. You fucked up, Joe. They all knew.

10:17Ronnie Karam: And so now we're like, okay, well, who are we going to be mad at this season? Because they all knew. So they're all guilty.

10:24Ben Mandelker: And the funny thing was at the reunion, the thing was like, well, yeah, we did do this crazy, cruel intentions manipulation to you. But we all knew all this time. And the fact that she brought up to you last night meant that she was trying to use you as a pawn. I was like, but, but this is so fucked up.

10:42Ronnie Karam: This is so fucked up. So Brad is like, well, Emmy 100 % deflected so that Will didn't have to answer for his own cheating allegations, which is true. But Will didn't show up anyway. So he's not going to answer because he wasn't at that reunion. He was like, bye. Yeah. And then we go flashback to last. Well, I think he's still at school, right? Oh, flashback to last summer at the finale party. And TJ's like, um, I know who you were cheating on her with. The one that took you to prom, or the one that you took to prom. And Brad's saying, uh, people are saying this girl stayed in your fucking apartment, bro.

11:17Ben Mandelker: And he's like, well, it's backstage, but he's not in here because... And he's like, his mental health can't take it. His mental health was fine when he came up the elevator, and his mental health was okay to go to the photo booth. It was okay to go to the dressing room, but he cannot go any farther into the studio Andy he cannot do it by the way that is also why he took

11:37Ronnie Karam: the handicap parking out front it is a disability you guys it is a disability so Brad's like I

11:44Ben Mandelker: thought there was room for Emmy and me to rebuild a friendship and then we see then we see at the reunion Emmy's saying I don't know where I am with DJ and Brad I I miss them and Andy's like well That's a wrap. Wow. I don't even know who these kids were. I thought I was giving an after school tour and taking a picture and they can go back off to class. But apparently I'm supposed to take a reunion.

12:05Ronnie Karam: But I will take the wrap to go because I've got children. I'm a dad. So then back to present. Brad saying, well, after the reunion, we went back to the hotel. TJ pipes in. Yeah. Brad and I were going up the elevator. And as soon as we get off the elevator door, we hear a loud voice coming through the wall. And it becomes more and more clear that this is Emmy talking. Girl, you heard that in the lobby and you know it. Emmy like, oh my God, can you believe these motherfuckers?

12:39Ben Mandelker: TJ's like, she's in her room with Will and they're on the phone with her mom. And they're drinking a beverage. I could hear the beverage. Yeah, I could hear it. And also, she was like eating the mint that they left on her pillow. I heard it. I heard it. It's very loud. So she was on the phone with her mom. And then Molly tells us, and the meme's room was right next to mine, and I could hear everything she was saying. Anyone in that zip code would have heard what she was saying. Then Brad's like, I have some notes. I wrote down some notes. We definitely played them. I fed Maddie that information to make anything Brad say not reliable.

13:16Ronnie Karam: That's funny and everything, but why don't you just record it? I can imagine Brad just trying to write really fast on his iPhone. You're right at the door anyway. Just record this. There's a little typewriter.

13:26Ben Mandelker: He's like, can we have a typewriter on level nine, please? Okay.

13:31Ronnie Karam: She said, they believed everything that I said out there about Will's mental health. She said it so many times to make sure that you couldn't get in trouble for not showing up because it's a disability. Then I mentioned that you took the handicap space. I think that was a good detail. And then they just all started laughing together like this. I could hear their heads They were all thrown back And she said fuck TJ fuck Brad They're dead to me Which apparently we weren't dead Because we were standing right outside her door While Brad was taking notes furiously

14:04Ben Mandelker: And then Brad goes It cuts so deep that I sent her a text And I said lower your fucking voice You're dead to me too bitch Don't think we didn't hear everything that you just said But what she did next I don't think any of us would have predicted. She fluffed her pillow. I was outraged.

14:26Ronnie Karam: None of us would have predicted. She gave birth. And the next thing we heard was a loud scream thumping on the door. And then the door broke down and an alien ran through the hallway, crashed through the elevator and killed a service worker. I was like, damn, you're right. I never would have guessed that.

14:43Ben Mandelker: I did not guess that. Next thing that happened, you never would have guessed. She went to CVS and bought some tear-proof mascara Never would have expected that from Emmy

14:56Ronnie Karam: Then something completely unpredictable happened She said, Gorbachev, tear down that wall And then started marching around the hallways And telling everyone she was Ronald Reagan It's crazy

15:07Ben Mandelker: And then sparks came out of her chest And she started singing Baby, you're a firework

15:15Ronnie Karam: Then she fucked the Prime Minister of Canada right there in the hallway.

15:19Ben Mandelker: And then the alien came back and said, no, he's mine. And then killed the prime minister of Canada. He ate Justin Trudeau's head off.

15:29Ronnie Karam: Sorry, Canada.

15:31Ben Mandelker: He was mad, that alien. And then he said, take that. Mother.

15:40Ronnie Karam: So we see the text. Or we see six months later. And clips of upcoming this season or whatever. And then I'm going to skip that part. Yeah.

15:51Ben Mandelker: Yeah, we can skip coming up this season because it's, we're going to get to it. Okay, so it starts with Emmy.

15:55Ronnie Karam: She's like, since New York, I do not talk to TJ and Brad at all. And it's sad. And TJ was just like, you know, like my gay best friend. And, you know, Brad was like a big brother to me. And like, definitely I miss him. But it's like, show your true colors, motherfuckers.

16:11Ben Mandelker: So Maddie comes in. She's like, hi, hi. For the past few months, I haven't been around Republic because I've been on a 40 show plus tour, multiple cities a week. And it was a lot. I am over airports, suitcases, buses, and I am so excited to be back in Charleston because it's like my comfy little sweatshirt.

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18:56Ronnie Karam: So, Michael starts the pre-shift meeting, and he's robotic as ever. He's like, happy Thursday, everybody. Shout out to Justin. So this past weekend, he had his first sale. So let's give Justin a round of applause for that. Other than that, any tables coming in I should know about? Anybody else? Anybody else? I'm really, really, I'm moving a doll's mouth with my hand, but nobody can see my lips moving.

19:21Ben Mandelker: I am going to stare at the staff without blinking. I mean, for the past six months, Joe has barely been here. And if I had a dollar for every time Joe didn't show up to work because he's been busy following Maddie on tour, I'd have a real tennis bracelet on as opposed to the cubic zirconia pause for laughter. Joke. Joke. It's a funny Michaels.

19:43Ronnie Karam: New funny Michaels this season, as you can see. Been working on that. So, all right. Let's get set up for tonight, everybody. Hip hop. Tip top. Got time to lean. Got time to clean. Et cetera. Et cetera.

19:55Ben Mandelker: Hey, hey, Brad. Are you serving tonight? are you hosting tonight? And Brad's like, I'm serving baby. And, um, he, he's like, uh, doing this thing that cuts limes into wedges. He keeps on like pushing it down. He looks like he's on one of those old time. He trained things where those two guys on a train track, they're pushing up and down, up and down, up and down to go down the tracks, but he's just doing it by himself. Just think about it guys. That's a really funny image. If you're really thinking, but with limes,

20:22Ronnie Karam: professional kitchens, really, you do step back in time in most of them. Cause they don't have microwaves or anything like that. It's like manual contraptions. They still have to figure out like the manual contraption way to get things done. The onion one is the best one where you just get an onion, you shove it in there, you slam it down. Boom, it's done.

20:41Ben Mandelker: It's so good. It brings a tear to your eye. Get it. So then TJ is like, wow, you're so good at that, Brad. The way you can like slice the limes with that lime contraption. He's like, yeah, I just pretend I'm on one of those old timey trains. Yeah, that's such a good way to do it. He was like, by the way, I've got a lot of experience doing this. Today I went on a long walk and I listened to that podcast again. And it got me fucking fired up. And for a moment, Ronnie, I kid you not, I thought, was it maybe our podcast? Of course, it was Nick Files.

21:10Ronnie Karam: I was so jealous. I want to be on there. We need to start some shit. I know.

21:15Ben Mandelker: Let's start shit with, okay, Maddie, get mad that I shaded your tour because that was really dick of me. and I know it was really dick of me, but get mad at me anyway and then we can be in a flashback. No, you can't plan it.

21:26Ronnie Karam: We just have to naturally do it. This has to be natural then, okay? Damn it. Just naturally be an asshole and hope that somebody gets mad.

21:34Ben Mandelker: How about this? Maddie, remember how I said on this podcast earlier after BravoCon that we met your mom and she was like the best and she was so nice? Your mom sucks. Okay, Ronnie, we're on the show now.

21:45Ronnie Karam: No, you're trying too hard. Although I did hook up with Maddie's mom. She was hot. I deny nothing.

21:52Ben Mandelker: I regret nothing. Remember how nice Maddie was to us at BravoCon? Well, it was a lie. She sucked. She's a cut fitness. Oh my god. I hope she's fired up now. So fired up that she has to have a flashback to us.

22:05Ronnie Karam: So we see a clip from the Vial Files from four months ago. Vial? Vial. Vial. I say vial, but I guess it's vial. Because it makes sense. Vial Files, right? But now they say Vial. I thought it was Nick Vial, but now they say Vial.

22:19Ben Mandelker: I just go like this. I just go, wow. The Nick bow.

22:22Ronnie Karam: Nick bow. Nick bow. Nick bow. It's like Sheena announcing it. Welcome to Nick bow. So four months ago, and Nick's like, you said evil. Do you actually think that any of your castmates are actually evil? And Will's like, yeah. I think Brad enjoys inflicting pain on others. And Emmy's like, yeah. He's so good at lying. He's like so good at lying that he forgot the truth.

22:44Ben Mandelker: Wow. So Brad's like, because I looked into seeing if Will cheated or not. I'm the villain in Emmy's story. And I think the thing that hurts the most is that this is coming from someone that I called a close friend. This is someone that I really, really loved and cared for. So for her to paint me out to be something that I'm not is like excruciating.

23:06Ronnie Karam: Something you're not, you also did it with the other with Maddie. What are you talking about somebody that you're not? It's two relationships in one year that you were coming for. One was a lie. Will's probably not a lie. I mean, Will's cheating.

23:19Ben Mandelker: Will, yeah. Will's always going to cheat on me. Brad doesn't lie. He limes. Crunch, crunch, crunch, crunch, crunch. Lime crunches. So then Brad is like, it's infuriating. Like, I'm at work and I have to like keep it PC and sit in the same room and then serve with her on top of it. It's exhausting.

23:39Ronnie Karam: So they start setting up and Brad and Emmy just ignore each other. And then Jordan, a bartender, is getting into the mix. she's new and she's like if you talk to emmy tj and she's like no and i am good because hearing her through the wall at that hotel like running her mouth and then going on that podcast i'm like you didn't have to do all that you did not have to do all that but you did because emmy went on that podcast and she talked about the night that me and joe shared a moment and and we see the flashback to joe being like well i remember that like i slept in your bed and she was sitting there insinuating that i took advantage of joe when he was drunk and passed out which is completely the opposite of what happened that night and emmy knows it yeah and by the way i love that they keep on saying that podcast instead of just thinking i guess they can't say it or they

24:26Ben Mandelker: just don't want to name it so then we have a flashback to when joe and and tj had that conversation about like the blurred lines in their relationship and just specifically yeah oh sorry yeah he says i was drunk and i touched you so then tj goes it's hard to grasp the fact that one of my best friends went on a public stage basically calling me a predator. How would you feel if your best friend did that? It sucks because I feel like the hole's deeper now. Jordan's like, wow. Does that sound predatory?

25:03Ben Mandelker: She's like, honestly, I just got here. I don't know what you guys are talking about. I'm not part of your cast. I'm just trying to serve actual drinks to these people.

25:10Ronnie Karam: So Michael's passes. He's like, okay, work, work, work, everybody. it is time to work everybody needs to get to work lean clean okay i don't want to go through the whole saying every single time okay let's get to it people so the doors open and all of the dress

25:25Ben Mandelker: barn shoppers of charleston start filing it leva is like you guys are the best looking staff in the country like thanks leva and then um emmy and maddie are like putting the sign together in the back, you know, cause like what's tonight's sign gonna be? What's Maddie, what's the sign gonna say? She goes, okay, wait. I kind of like need help because this girl, she needs the sign. She's single and she wants something. So like maybe astrology. How about meet me in the stars? Like, oh my God, Maddie, you're a genius. Like you, like no one does a sign like DJ Maddie Reese.

26:03Ronnie Karam: Might I suggest he's gonna cheat on you anyway? Cause you're in Charleston. Just be, just, can I, can I promote? honesty and signs.

26:11Ben Mandelker: Wait a second. She loves the stars. Okay. She loves astrology. How about this for the sun in space? No one can hear you scream like, Whoa, Maddie, that got real dark. Sorry. Sorry. It's been a tough year for me. I don't know who to trust.

26:25Ronnie Karam: Now we see another flashback to the reunion. Brad saying, I'm going to do something that will has been unable to do. I'm going to take accountability, Maddie. And I'm sorry, Maddie. And so Brad's like, we're good. and Maddie's like Brad and I are not good at all. I mean since the reunion he hasn't tried to reach out to make amends. I don't even think he understands the magnitude of how much this hurt me.

26:49Ben Mandelker: Yeah because Brad's whole thing is like yeah I felt really bad about lying and destroying their relationship but like you know I said sorry and we see that like by the way at the reunion he's like by the way I'm sorry about that. That was his apology. So here comes the sign like space yeah to infinity and beyond happy birthday and they walk through and molly walks up to the front of the club and she's like oh we realize molly is no longer working here and she comes up and she's got like in front of all these girls like her backup dancer she's like hey everyone hi molly i'm back and this guy jostin's like hey i didn't think you were coming she's like i brought the girls i'm not just talking about my boobs check out these foxes behind me so then lake sees her and was like oh my god why is this happening and we're like whoa what what happened with molly why is she working there why is lake upset and justin just lets him in he's like hi

27:45Ronnie Karam: i'm dirty justin i'm new on the cast and i could use a good grooming get over there ladies you're all in no cover i don't think i was gonna like that i don't think she's gonna like it so then And Molly is telling us, yeah, if you would have asked me a year ago, my life is where it is right now. I would cry and I would laugh. I no longer work at Republic because I knew personal stuff about Michaels and he used bullshit reasons to get me fired. I was like personal things about Michaels. I didn't know there were personal things about Michaels. I didn't even know he was a person. I mean, I thought he just I'm so glad.

28:23Ronnie Karam: I'm so glad to know he's so robotic. Michael has a person. michaels has a personal life yes tell me everything he does sort of feel like an ai rendering of a

28:34Ben Mandelker: southern charm southern hospitality character so mike so lake is like michaels and michael's like girl why are you not at the door come on i'm a manager business and lake's like guess who just walked in molly fucking more and michael's like okay well i really i don't really have anything to say i don't really care all i have to say is her check better clear thank you for coming and supporting local business and michaels is like molly and i's friendship was fine up until her firing and then all of a sudden she's like going around talking shit about me saying that i cheated on my ex-boyfriend and this and that and the third and she got fired because she sucked at her job and i somehow have something to do with it like no yeah well i've never been written up and i've

29:19Ronnie Karam: never even had one comment made to me about anything bad and michaels is like girl i don't have that much power and like says i don't like the way that she treated you he's like well i'm just trying to finish the schedule so sorry i do not care so i'll see you out there in a second so whatever so he just wants to avoid it but um now molly wants to talk to lake so um she's like yeah lake was telling people that i ignored her outside of republic the other day so we're gonna have a

29:49Ben Mandelker: talk about it let's get to the bottom of an ignore fight so like it's like okay molly here's what happened i was like at the front door working and then like she like walks by and like doesn't even acknowledge me and this is like that third time that this happens and maddie's like oh my god i think there's a miscommunication happening and i feel like you should just like go up to molly and be like what's our beef and like it's like well like why would i be friends with somebody that talk shit about my best friend. You know, because between Michaels and Molly, obviously I'm choosing Michaels. I mean, Molly was my girl.

30:25Ben Mandelker: Remember last year when we went shopping together? Together?

30:31Ronnie Karam: And then we see them shopping together. It's like, oh my god, they went to Gwen's together and now they don't speak? What is even happening in this world?

30:39Ben Mandelker: Even after they tried on matching red dresses, wow, 2026 takes no prisoners.

30:45Ronnie Karam: Yeah, so Leva sees Molly and And she's like, Molly, I know shit got a little difficult over here for you, but like, I wouldn't sweat it. You have so much potential. I mean, you obviously you're successful at whatever it is you're doing, which is mostly just wandering around the front of my club. As anybody can attest to as you've passed by it every single day, waiting for cameras to start rolling. So good for you. Just keep on doing that. Molly's like, yeah, still part of the family. I was like, yeah, I didn't say that. But, you know, now that you did. Great. Let's hug. please don't sue me thanks

31:20Ben Mandelker: by the way I just want to point out we're like 10 minutes into the show and we still have not seen the Cloris Leachman waitress and I'm going to need her show up very soon

31:28Ronnie Karam: she needs to still be on this cast or I'm going to riot it'll be a one person riot out there bring back Cloris Leachman bring back Cloris Leachman

31:38Ben Mandelker: and we also need the CEO

31:39Ronnie Karam: what are we going to put on the side today guys

31:42Ben Mandelker: and we need Leah's CEO so then Leva says Molly has a full-time day job as an event planner and she was just switching shifts a lot and eventually that's just gonna combust but there's no bad blood although you know the kids always make it dramatic so then cut to um uh then we see oh yeah Allie from Vanderpump Rules is at the front door and we saw a bunch of cameos later we saw Taylor from Southern Charm we saw other Rod from from Southern Charm so like really wow I'm really mad at all the stars yeah

32:15Ronnie Karam: huge huge night for stars wait it's that girl who dated James that time oh my gosh that lady who was trying to sell Capri Suns the dumb chef that time that guy who ate salad yeah I didn't recognize that one who was that one

32:36Ben Mandelker: exactly he was trying to date Olivia a few seasons ago he was sort of like unremarkable

32:41Ronnie Karam: oh yeah Yeah, yeah, yeah. Wasn't he the guy who's like, I got you gluten-free bread? She's like, oh my God, that is so romantic.

32:48Ben Mandelker: That is correct. So Molly is like, hey, can I pull you for a chat? Like, she really does the whole British accent. And Lake's like, I'm at work. She's like, well, okay. Well, obviously me and Michaels have had a falling out. And I think that there's a lot of, I don't know if it's miscommunication. I don't know if it's like shit talking. I don't know what it is. So I wanted to obviously come to you directly. And Molly's like, I mean, Lake is like, but you haven't talked to me. I'm not done. I'm talking to you now. Okay.

33:16Ronnie Karam: Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Getting a little spicy there, aren't we, Molly? And Mike's like, yeah, but you walked by here twice and you didn't even acknowledge me or Michael. She goes, this is not high school and I did not ignore you, even if you thought that I did. So if you're crying over that, then you need to go back to kindergarten where kindergartners go to school because it's kindergarten because I did absolutely nothing wrong to you and I didn't even think about it the next day. So do you want to do you want to free roll up little wah wah little wah wah baby wah wah?

33:47Ben Mandelker: Lake Lake I need you we're at work okay come on are you good come on Lake what's going on over there?

33:54Ronnie Karam: She was screaming at me so Michaels was like oh my god I know Molly did not come in here with good intentions like baby we should make you wait in general admission because you're a commoner now a commoner. I mean, I've seen the rest of the people in this club. They're all commoners. I don't care what you people try to tell me. You can shoot them from any angle you want. That is an Anheuser-Busch hat that I see in the background. So stop it.

34:20Ben Mandelker: Yeah. So Michaels comes back out of the restaurant and he goes right up to Molly's face and she's right in the front of the line. He goes, listen, you do not come in here and disrespect my staff. If you're going to act like that, I will ban you. Okay. Do you understand me? You will get banned. Walk away.

34:37Ronnie Karam: walk away walk away i will grab the cops you better walk away walk away thank you have a good night i'm not fucking around i do not play michael's no bad look it's bad bad you're in a woman's face and you're at work like what the fuck what are you doing and honestly like it's

34:58Ben Mandelker: not like molly's so great and i i have traditionally really adored lake but like molly wasn't screaming Molly was just being you know bratty she was just had base level brattiness that's it so and the only one really screaming was Michael's like get away go away so then he comes back inside and he's like I'm not fucking around and love is like are you okay he's like I'm not I'm not what's going on sweetie Molly was screaming in like space outside the door and I just like went up to her and I just had to say something. And she's like, shut up. Yeah. And I said, walk away. I will ban your ass. You do not get to come in here and disrespect my staff.

35:39Ronnie Karam: So outside, Molly is telling Brad, oh my God, Michaels just came up to me and threatened to ban me. And he said he's going to call the fucking cops. I mean, oh my God. So inside, Michaels is still going off. He's like, I don't even care who you are. I'm going to yell at them. They will get banned. They will get banned.

35:56Ben Mandelker: And Brad's like, are you okay, Molly? She's like, no, like I'm seriously traumatized now. I'm like, okay.

36:05Ronnie Karam: He's like, well, you know why he's coming at you like that, right? And so she's like, yeah, well, Michaels is coming out and screaming at me is 100 % abuse of power. It was the same reason I was fired. Like it was 110%, which is now up 10 % from the previous 100 % citation I just made. A personal vendetta from Michaels against me.

36:27Ben Mandelker: Wow. It was 100 % abuse of power. And honestly, if you have to really, like, 10 % above that, it was also a vendetta.

36:36Ronnie Karam: Even more so.

36:38Ben Mandelker: If you look at abuse of power, imagine just a 10 % larger situation than that, and that was the vendetta.

36:43Ronnie Karam: So then Leva has Michaels into the office, and isn't her office, like, down the street or something? I remember her being like, I'm remodeling my office, and it's a block away, or something like that. So anyway, he has to trudge over there. and she's like, okay. He's like, oh my God, like you used to work here. Like if you're gonna come in here, and she goes, just take a deep breath and sit down, please. I have no emotional capacity. Please just sit down. And he's like, well, I mean, she didn't tell me the exact words, but like you talk shit about me and my ex. Like you're not gonna sit here and be like dragging me through the mud.

37:15Ronnie Karam: Like that's not okay. Like I don't like to let my emotions get the best of me. I don't even know that I have them. But this month is like pent up emotions since my ex and I broke up because he was like my first relationship. and the breakup it wasn't even that bad but like we broke up and molly was good friends with him and like she just chose to be on his side love is like okay i know that molly has not been good to

37:37Ben Mandelker: you as a friend as of late but we're not in the business of banning so make sure that you're running the business in the way that are do you need a hug are you okay i got some michael's

37:48Ronnie Karam: like do you need a hug she's like and he's covering his mouth and he starts going

38:01Ronnie Karam: i just do not feel comfortable i don't want to be uncomfortable in one place that i can't oh my god sit down relax just sit down take a breath okay like listen your emotions are valid i know you were close but it's something like okay but you need to stop listen i'm gonna be very frank okay you cannot have this job if you can't manage your temper like don't fuck up your job just because you let someone pull you off your cool and then he immediately he's like completely dried and he was like okay it's the most reset right this is crazy

38:42Ben Mandelker: you're correct yes okay command alt delete she was high she was like she's like why are you

38:51Ronnie Karam: Wiping down the couch. Because I have time to lean, so I have time to clean. Happy to be here.

38:57Ben Mandelker: Well, now it's a new day. And we are at Matty's house. Joe! Joe Bradley! You slept on my side of the bed! He's like, this is my side. No, it's not! No, it is, because the charger. So the charger's always my side.

39:12Ronnie Karam: He's like, this is my house, so I sleep on the side with the charger. The fuck, Joe? You really fucked up, Joe. So now we go to Brad's and he's doing a cold plunge. He's got like one of the, I guess, like a budget cold plunge. I didn't even know you could get these because I've only seen them where people have like a full thing in their house. Of course, on Bravo. I don't know anyone in real life who does this nonsense, but on Bravo, they're very into the cold plunge. So he gets into like this little tiny tub. What does that do for you, a cold plunge? Have you ever done one?

39:45Ben Mandelker: No, but I think what it's supposed to do is the cold. I think like, I believe as someone who does not follow this closely, I think it's like the blood, the blood flow is going to like get really increased. Like the blood is going to rush to the inflamed areas. And that's, you know, the more blood that comes through, the more.

40:03Ronnie Karam: Reduce inflammation, alleviate sore muscles, boost mood and improve circulation. I mean, okay. It's not worth it. I say not worth it. I say no. I'm like, no.

40:16Ben Mandelker: I'm not gonna put myself into a giant garbage can full of ice cold water and like I will just I will let the inflammation go down on its own right yeah dear blood don't circulate because I'm not doing that so he is doing that and now in a similar in a parallel in a scene of parallelism Emmy is also in water but she is floating in a sensory deprivation chamber and the camera is like attached to the inside of this giant egg and And so when like then Maddie's like, hey, hey, can I come in and join you? I'm like, it's supposed to be sensory deprivation, Maddie. And she's like, yeah, I'm coming in.

40:52Ben Mandelker: I'm coming into the sensory deprivation chamber. It's like, okay, okay.

40:55Ronnie Karam: It's like, what is this even for? And then he's like, oh my God, taking salt baths calms all your senses. Look at me. I'm so fucking calm right now. I can't even take it. The water's like wiggling, coming over the edges.

41:08Ben Mandelker: And then they like get in and then like Maddie tastes the salt water. It's like, ugh, disgusting. It's like, oh, my God. This is like literally salt water. It tastes like drugs. Gross. Really leaning into the sensory deprivation of this all. You're screaming and you're tasting the water in the sense. You're not supposed to taste things. Sensory deprivation.

41:29Ronnie Karam: I mean, it's like, oh, my God. It totally is supposed to calm your senses, which is hilarious, considering we couldn't have more overstimulating lives. I mean, waiters, am I right?

41:41Ben Mandelker: my skin is feeling so soft stop feeling things that's another sense you're engaging

41:46Ronnie Karam: so emmy is saying that you know she's she thinks it works but then she gets back into traffic and she's like come on god fuck you get it get the fuck out of my way die she's like so i don't i don't know that this really works it's like i'm just gaslighting myself so then um maddie says that um joe would want her to go to sweat houses with her when they were dating and she would always invite her friends because he didn't want him to get creepy.

42:11Ben Mandelker: Yeah.

42:12Ronnie Karam: I mean, it's like, I'm going to marry that man. You know, I wouldn't be around him alone. Cause I thought he was a creep. That's the man I want to have my children.

42:20Ben Mandelker: So how are you and Joe and everything like that? It's just really good. It's just like, he's like ready to get a house and get married and have kids. I'm just like marriage scares the shit out of me. The fact that people around me are even considering getting married, like, Oh my God, it gives me so much anxiety. and he's like but like i'm getting married it's like ew gross oh oh sorry did i say that part out loud no i mean i'm so happy for you because i know that's something you've always wanted you've always had like a really low bar for what you want in life yeah like it's just like not what i want

42:50Ronnie Karam: yeah like you're getting married to someone that's going to continue to live like they're young and fuck around anyway and that's what makes it fun you know but most people don't look at marriage like that emmy she's like oh oh i guess that's a good point man so um she's like yeah i'm still getting married bitches after countless attempts to like sabotage my relationship so suck it bitches here's my ring here's my ring he liked it so he should have put a ring on it and he did i've got a diamond self-worth i've got self-worth around my ring finger bitches

43:22Ben Mandelker: um and then we see uh we see like yeah we see all these flashbacks of everyone trying to like trying to you know undermine them so emmy is like can we look at history repeating itself and what Brad and TJ do. They make up fake cheating rumors and ruin our lives for game. They did it to me and they did it to you. And Maddie's like, yeah, like I went through hell after New York. She's like, I know. And we see the reunion again where Maddie is losing her mind. And she goes, it made me like physically sick. I started dealing with crippling anxiety. I was sitting in the hospital, not knowing what the fuck is wrong with me.

43:57Ronnie Karam: Yeah, I feel like if I worked hard to build myself up so I could let go of this resentment towards TJ and Brad, Like, it's been a lot to let go of the resentment. P.S. I haven't let go of anything. Spoiler alert. So she's like, you know, at least you told me the truth and took accountability on me. And then, you know, you and Will made amends towards me. You know, I mean, nobody makes a charcuterie tray like you. Am I right? But they haven't done anything. They haven't made ham into a rose and put it on a wooden tray. Nothing.

44:26Ben Mandelker: Thank you for seeing my art. Well, you know what? Will and I knew about it. And we weren't, you know, we were, I just want to say we were never involved in this lying scheme. And then flashback to two years ago of me being totally involved and saying, well, you know what? History repeats itself. And Trevor's been a cheater once. Like it's very expected that he would cheat again. Yeah.

44:45Ronnie Karam: She's like, I mean, it was like Brad and TJ. I mean, they were the ones that were like involved in it. You know what I mean? She's like, yeah. Like I feel like TJ and Brad are like calculated. Like they have whiteboards and like string attaching pictures and shit like that. Like I know you're not like smart enough for that. No offense. And he's like, yeah, like I'm a fucking idiot. I'm too stupid to be evil.

45:05Ben Mandelker: All I can do is make my bed really nice and do a charcuterie board, okay? The rest is for lawyers like Will.

45:11Ronnie Karam: So now it's boys night, guys. The boy's like, oh, my God, look, everybody, we're boys. And they're like complimenting each other's hair. And, you know, Joe's like, I want a bigger hair. So, like, my brain could look bigger. And they're like, you're wearing a bump-it. What are you doing?

45:28Ben Mandelker: It's a pompadour. he's got johnny weir hair i know he does and joe's tj is like yeah i mean you got to bump it in he's like you mean a pompadour and tj goes snooki but i don't know i don't know why he says snooki

45:42Ronnie Karam: snooki he says are you like snooki because snooki had to bump it yeah she had that's right bump it

45:47Ben Mandelker: thing so joe joe's like uh i almost want to do this and he starts playing with his bangs he's just like i love it i love you did i say that part out loud oops so joe is like yeah this place is pretty nice and they wind up basically going to a speakeasy like a secret poker room so the bros get going to this poker room bradley joins tj's tj's already there tj and joe uh michaels and the new guy what's his name justin so they all are in there and justin is like whoa oh check out those guns i'm bradley and bradley's like yeah i know i'm as wide as a mobile home let's go

46:22Ronnie Karam: So Michael's is like, whoa, guys, I need a good day. Like, I've had a really shitty week. Yeah, screaming in a girl's face. Yeah, you can't scream in a girl's face. Bradley's like, and I'm Bradley. And I'm telling you, you cannot scream in a girl's face. And he's like, I know. TJ's like, well, I feel a lot of the anger, too, was like you and Molly's issues and not just like the actual situation. He goes, yeah. Yeah. We have a lot to discuss, you know, things that are bothering me. And Justin's like, yeah, stop yelling at people in front of Republic. So they all laugh and give him shit. Boys night, boys night.

46:54Ronnie Karam: Are we here for a boys night? Hey, are you straight TJ for boys night? Which feels like it could be offensive.

47:03Ben Mandelker: And Michael definitely has a look on his face like, I don't like that. But they all are like laughing. And so Joe's like, yeah, are you straight? And Justin's like, we're going to find out. They're like, boys night, boys night. Joe's like, the fucking gay are the better, right? wait. And TJ's like, oh my God, stop it. And Justin goes, so now we find out about Justin. He's like, hey, I'm Justin. I have a love a bit of history with Charleston. Used to live down in Charleston in 2019. I did my time in Boston, LA and Sydney, Australia. Took a lot of photos where I looked really hot, but now here I am just unkempt and messy in Charleston.

47:35Ben Mandelker: I was at a crossroads in my life. I was in a relationship, a relationship that went South. So I said, fuck it, I'll go South too. And I got in contact with TJ, my old friend. And I was like, do you guys have any of that salsa in store. Turns out I was not calling Trader Joe's. I actually just called TJ and he said, come on, be in the show. And I said,

47:52Ronnie Karam: sure, here I am. So I got some abs and here I am. New abs and a new haircut. Sir, you need to groom. You look dirty. You look dirty. You look unkempt. You look terrible. And then they show pictures of him when he was like modeling for JCPenney or whatever. And he looks very cute. So I know it's there somewhere.

48:09Ben Mandelker: Yeah, he's so hot in all his photos. But then on the show, he's just like totally unkempt and and messy. I'm like, fix yourself. Um, just cause we see your potential. So, uh, they're, they really like it and they like him and everything. And Brad's like, yeah, Justin's different than your typical Charleston guy. He's a little dirty. Looks like he hasn't showered in a day or two. I was like, well, that was the same as that guy last year, Austin. He also looked a bit unshowered and he would go into the woods and like chop wood and eat meat. So. Oh yeah. What happened to that guy? I don't know. And then the year before that there was, um, Oz Austin, Austin, whatever.

48:48Ben Mandelker: O'Sheen. And he was also pretty dirty and gross. So I guess this is just like a dirt bag category that they have open.

48:54Ronnie Karam: Every year they just cycle in a new dirt bag. So Michaels is like, well, I mean, Justin's attractive, you know, like he would go from a Charleston 8 to a 10 if he groomed. And they're like, well, if he's a Charleston 8, what do you, he's like, baby, I'm in an 11.

49:10Ben Mandelker: That's like 110 % out of a scale of 1 to 10. Just one point it out literally it is commercials here comes one right now so justin's like well guys you want to

49:25Ronnie Karam: hear something so funny so i'd like reveal to my mom like really personal about myself so i'm sitting there crying and i'm like mom i have to tell you something and she's like justin we all know you're gay he's like oh my god how long have you been sitting on that mom i'm not even gay

49:39Ben Mandelker: they all start cracking up joe said then joe relates and he goes my dad said the same thing like when i was four i would like play dress up with like girls in preschool and my dad was like oh shit he might be gay but like i was like no i i like chicks but then when i was really good at artwork my dad's like all right he might be gay then and then i was like no i just i like chicks and then one time he caught me having sex with a guy and he's like okay i'm pretty sure you're gay and i was like no bro i i love women so it's just hilarious my journey

50:09Ronnie Karam: my dad thought he was gay just because he caught me giving a blowjob to one of my friends those those crazed dads am i right that's they never get it he's just like see i didn't start the

50:20Ben Mandelker: rumor joe's dad did brad's like i thought this was boys night guys come on all this gay talk all right i got a toast for us okay is that door lock okay here's here's the toast okay and like yeah okay let's start the toast he goes okay but and they're like yeah okay do the toast fart boy and he's like yeah what can i say i'm a gassy guy i get my protein in and then we have

50:42Ronnie Karam: a heart montage protein farts they show him like going up to the fridge in the restaurant and then opening the fridge door for him to fart into do you guys do you guys have a food a food inspector

50:54Ben Mandelker: over there you guys are in the hospitality business it's in the title of your show this is not right i was like i woken up rat maddie with like my farts being loud you know like when i think it's

51:05Ronnie Karam: like gonna be like a sneaky one my dad called me and he was like molly's uh uh what's her buns maddie said you have really loud farts are you gay it's like dad stop calling me

51:17Ben Mandelker: you know she came up to me at work and she was like joe's been eating so much it smells so bad and i'm like joe you gotta stop doing that or else you'll be banned sorry i'm not allowed to

51:26Ronnie Karam: yell at you anymore sorry so they're like how are you and maddie and joe says um we're good dude we had a really hard year though look honestly like it's boys night i don't want to get into it but like like guys like i want to move past everything and brad's like whoa whoa time out time out what do you mean get past it joe's like well like it's just like i've been with maddie like what i've been through with her this year like she's having like mental breakdowns like that group text that you guys had like it like traumatized her like she's had much she's had it much harder than you think no i know that this is year four i think and um like she's been having nervous breakdowns every year but like this year has been like worse because of you guys so what do you think about it

52:08Ben Mandelker: yeah i want you guys to make amends and take accountability for it and brad's like whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa have we not made amends don't you remember the reunion where i was like hey by the way so sorry about that any who does she not remember that did she not remember me shrugging and going sorry you gotta admit it was kind of funny in retrospect she doesn't remember me saying

52:31Ronnie Karam: that so bradley's like um i thought we were good um maddie grabbed me and said hey i want to stop talking about the whole trevor thing and i want to drop it completely let's move on we've texted I mean, I texted her congrats on 11 years of sobriety. I mean, I thought we were good, you know? So I don't know.

52:52Ben Mandelker: That broke her and her mental health. She's been to like eight different therapist offices. Admittedly, those were DJ gigs, but she still was in the therapist's office. Brad's like, I understand that. And I'm not downplaying her health. I'm not downplaying her health whatsoever, whatsoever. And Joe's like, but when did it all happen? Right after the reunion? He's like, yeah, when Emmy and Will showed her everything. And TJ goes, those motherfuckers had printouts. Yeah.

53:18Ronnie Karam: Those motherfuckers showed you text messages the night before the reunion. And what have we done? Nothing. Nothing. What could we even do? What could we even do? I did vacuum, actually. He's like, well, okay, a lot. You want to see the nasty things Will said about you? I can show you right now. Or does it need to be printed? Do I have to stop by a FedEx Kinko for this to be decent evidence?

53:40Ben Mandelker: I don't give a fuck about Will. We're talking about our friendship. He's like, neither do I. But the point is, I didn't go behind anyone's back except to vacuum a spot that was left a little bit dirty. God, I love to vacuum. Joe's like, stop the flooding. I don't understand why Joe is only coming after Brad and myself and not also Will and Emmy.

53:57Ronnie Karam: Yeah. And Brad's like, yeah, I mean, if she's having mental health issues, then why does Emmy get a pass? When she used mental health as an excuse to get Will out of the reunion, if they care so much about mental health, what about that one? Nailed them! nailed him on that one and um so we see another clip from the vocal and nick's like why didn't you just go to the reunion will's like because it was going to be a bloodbath what so it's not about mental health after all i think the point is it was gonna be a bloodbath and he did not

54:31Ben Mandelker: have the mental capacity to deal with that not to give excuses for will because i still think he should have gone to the reunion i think he pussied out of that one um and i do think that he cheated but it is funny that brad and teacher are like just because we made up an entire rumor that played on a national tv that broke up a relationship that you were pretty happy with

54:50Ronnie Karam: you're mad at us get over it god yeah i bought you a sprite i thought we were good so brad's like what do i need to do to make madison reese happy he's like well i would love you to respect me guys like maybe go up to her and make things right okay well now we go to

55:10Ben Mandelker: michael's working out i'm working out at the park and look and here comes molly molly let's have a conversation and molly's like oh my god it's like seeing an ex yeah sore subject why would you say that she's like yeah so uh yeah nice to see you y 'all thanks for accepting my olive branch she's like, yeah, I just, I think I'm just like really like hurt by you. You know, an old best friend screamed at my face. Do you remember that when you had your 125 % vendetta? Yeah. The percentage went up. It's called interests.

55:41Ronnie Karam: He's like, um, I'm sorry. Like, I want you to know, like, I felt terrible about it after like, um, I've literally never like felt so blacked out. And like, I was like, how did we get to this point? Hold on.

55:55Ronnie Karam: How did we get to this point? I had to let that out. she's like i mean the preston situation i'm not saying you fuck someone else but there were definitely lines that were crossed he's like um yeah but he can say the same for himself and so she says that michael michaels i keep wanting to call him michaels that michaels became famous and then suddenly was getting ass all over the place people were throwing themselves at you and um it's common knowledge that michaels was asking other dudes to make out at the restaurant and inviting people to come hang out with him at the wee hours of the morning.

56:28Ronnie Karam: So he's saying, well, yeah, we broke up. We were going to try and fix things. And I told myself, I'm single. So you're hot as fuck. So like, come on, let's go. So I started texting new people, following guys on Insta. And he was doing the same. But she probably left all of that out and didn't tell you that part.

56:47Ben Mandelker: I've moved on. And it's clear as day that he's moved on too, like everybody else should too. and like that one day I screamed at you like that's how I felt in the moment which by the way that's my favorite thing when people do that like it's okay that I screamed and was awful to you because that's how I felt in that moment

57:03Ronnie Karam: that was the past me

57:05Ben Mandelker: that me died I was being honest to myself I always kept it professional especially when I screamed at you in front of our club and told you I was going to call the police on you because you said something to Link but my patience and my peace is being tested it's so hard right now because for months i continually heard like oh molly said this about you oh molly said that about you and guess what my new phrase molly said this that and the third you don't even want to know about the third because i heard that you were saying the third

57:35Ronnie Karam: about me and molly's like well yeah okay i'll take accountability because i talked mad shit on you so sorry and he's like well i'm in shock that she apologized but like we used to be like best friends like i would literally like trim her nose hairs i would trim this nose here that nose here

57:54Ben Mandelker: and the third and producer's like wait you trimmed her nose hair he's like yeah i've got the video if you want to see it's like no thank you we actually do have limits on this show and that is one of them so molly's like moving into the bigger beast of being fired i was like completely blindsided it was like really hurtful he's like i know that you thought it was my fault but like i don't have authority to hire or fire people okay i'm just like a hot person for the tv show and that's it

58:19Ronnie Karam: and she goes but you knew that it was coming okay but even if he did that's very different than you saying he got me fired because i was talking about him cheating on his boyfriend you know and michael's is like no i didn't like you didn't i didn't find out till the morning of she goes yeah but that's not what i've heard around town but i guess i'll have to take michael's word

58:37Ben Mandelker: for it i don't think that michael's got molly fired and i'm not saying that he did this or not but like there is still a possibility that he was poisoning what the waters if he was angry at her if he was like like yeah molly she's just like not great she's like not getting along with people i don't really love her she doesn't really have a good attitude these days he could have been saying those things i'm not saying that he actually did but he's actually like oh i have no influence

59:01Ronnie Karam: love had just said that it was because she was working too much at her other job so yeah i mean

59:06Ben Mandelker: i believe leva on this one believe it or not because if there were a real issue level was like totally chill with her she's like oh hey good to see you again so i think it is like Like Leva says, I'm just saying Michael's asking, what? I would have no influence.

59:18Ronnie Karam: Although Leva did say that, but then they've also said that Joe never shows up to work anymore either. And he's still got his job. So who knows? Yeah. How about that? So then he goes, Molly's like, okay, I'll unblock you. And he's like, oh my God, you blocked me. God, you're petty, bro. It's even more of a diss that you didn't even notice that you were blocked. Yeah, that's the thing. two hours until sir wiener's one year anniversary party the amount of growth sir wiener's has had

59:51Ben Mandelker: it's been insane to see that wiener grow it was just so small it looked like it was just one size and now it has really it has really grown and it's it's just been a it's been a hard journey but that wiener is now at its full length one has to believe we do footlongs now it just evolved

1:00:08Ronnie Karam: into what it is now, a hot dog company with a merch brand. A hot dog company with a merch brand. It's been on top shows. Yeah, go ahead.

1:00:17Ben Mandelker: It's been on Eater Magazine, even though I think it's just a website, not a magazine, but that's okay. I like printouts and magazines, and I never imagined a revenge business named after my ex's penis would become a huge empire.

1:00:28Ronnie Karam: Because it sure wasn't a huge wiener. So he puts a cardboard cutout of Mia holding a hot dog because mia can't be here today because she's in hawaii with that hot boyfriend troy so good for

1:00:42Ben Mandelker: her mia loves a late start to a season she does she was wasn't she in hawaii last year too last year she was like you know she was off um doing like a beauty pageant i feel like she

1:00:54Ronnie Karam: in hawaii right i thought it was so i thought she was like doing miss america or something in hawaii Maybe it was.

1:01:01Ben Mandelker: I don't remember. So that's set up. Grace Lily shows up and she's going to be a vendor. She's setting up a little tent with crystals. She goes, since leaving Republic, it's taken some time for me to like get back on my feet. And you're literally sitting down this entire scene, by the way. You're not even on your feet.

1:01:21Ronnie Karam: It's like, yeah, you know, I did this. We see a clip. Sorry. She's like, I did an ayahuasca ceremony and I saw Bob Marley.

1:01:31Ben Mandelker: And I told him, I was like, I love you, Bob. Like I'm always going to spread the message of cha.

1:01:38Ronnie Karam: Oh, my gosh. I didn't see that one coming. Just coughing my face off. Did you do ayahuasca just now? Yeah, I've been doing ayahuasca over here. So now Grace Lilly has really decided to be responsible and settle down and get a real job, guys. So here she is. She's like, yeah, I decided to do like tarot cards because they've been a thing for me for some time now. So, yeah, look, I was doing it for my cat. We see a clip of her doing tarot cards for her cat. Fucking Grace Lily. The least surprising news of this year was Grace Lily like getting pulled over for driving on crack or whatever the hell happened over there.

1:02:14Ronnie Karam: I mean, God bless her heart.

1:02:16Ben Mandelker: Yeah, God bless her. I hope she's okay. So now she's doing it. She's setting up her thing. She's like, this looks good. And she sets up crystals. And TJ's like, I love it. I mean, I don't know what any of it means, but it's great. And I'm glad you set up a tent in the middle of my hot dog event. That's wonderful. We just wanted to come and enjoy.

1:02:32Ronnie Karam: I just had this minister that was doing my nails before I came here. And he was telling me that I shouldn't do it because it's a sin in the Bible. And the producer's like, wait, your minister was doing your nails? He goes, no, it's not my minister. It was just a minister at a nail salon. But I want TJ to sparkle. That's what I want. A minister at a nail salon.

1:02:52Ben Mandelker: You said the minister was doing your nails. You said it. No, it was just a minister at a nail salon. Honestly, it wasn't even a minister. I think it was just some girl from next door. Anyway, I want TJ to sparkle, and I think he wants me to sparkle, so we're just going to shine together.

1:03:10Ronnie Karam: So she shuffles her deck, and she's like, okay, guys, looks like we're going to have some good luck today. Okay, well, here's your$100, you fucking weirdo. I know.

1:03:21Ben Mandelker: hot dogs and a reading.

1:03:23Ronnie Karam: If any of your friends come to you in their 30s or late 20s and say, guys, I found my purpose. I'm going to be a tarot card reader. They're in trouble. Get them help. Help them. It's a cry for help.

1:03:36Ben Mandelker: So now we see Maddie and Joe and they're driving on the way to this event and Maddie's going through it and Joe's like, what's wrong? She's like, uh, Joe, I'm trying my best to control my anger problems, but, and I'm just like literally praying to the gods that I'm professional tonight like do you know how hard it is to serve hot dogs when you're angry at someone oh i was

1:03:56Ronnie Karam: looking in the serving hot dogs professional manual and just like brushing up on all the rules because like it's super important in the hot dog delegation to be super professional

1:04:05Ben Mandelker: whenever you've got a dog in your hand after joe told me that brad and tj were being so combative and refused to apologize at boys night i want to cut their dicks off put it between the buns and serve it, period. Oh God, hot dog rage coming through.

1:04:21Ronnie Karam: You're working, Matty. You're working. Hot dogs. Respect the hot dog.

1:04:27Ben Mandelker: I'm trying to resolve my resentment towards TJ and Brad and Mia, but it's hard not to be like fucking angry because like I just hope I don't pop the fuck off at the hot dog event.

1:04:39Ronnie Karam: So Leva comes into the event. She's like, wow, it's like a vibe in here. You've got like baby teas. Wow, like I want one. I won't lie like I was skeptical about TJ's hot dog idea like I'm so proud that he's come into a success but like who knew hot dogs would be so good for business he did that's who TJ knew

1:05:00Ben Mandelker: he's like well we have the debut of a new hot dog today which is the flaming hot Cheetos and wiener sauce so it's going to be we see that it's called the cheater wiener because it's like the idea is that you can cheat on your diet as Cheetos So Cheater, it's the Cheater Wiener. But some people see something a little more in that name.

1:05:22Ronnie Karam: It's the Will Wiener. So Maddie comes in, she says, oh my God, what the fuck? A Cheater Wiener? Are you serious? Yeah.

1:05:33Ben Mandelker: It's about cheating on your diet. Love is like, that's hilarious. But backstage, Maddie is like, they're fucking bullies coming up with like a wiener about cheating. that's like so wrong like why can't you learn how to stay out of your fuck out of fucking grown folks business god oh cheater wiener i mean it's like listen it speaks more about like how interesting

1:05:56Ronnie Karam: their lives are okay like if this is what they're still hyper fixating on i mean like wait like i mean well i'm just whatever like i don't even care like it's not even bothering me like whatever

1:06:06Ben Mandelker: yeah everything's fine like i'm totally not bothered by this wiener whatsoever everything's fine. Everything's fine. Everything's fine. Everything's fine. Maddie's like, TJ has named every single one of his hot dogs after someone in this group. So who in this group is the cheater then? Other than Will.

1:06:22Ronnie Karam: Yeah, they're getting married. You guys can't do that. Like, that's not funny. Okay. So I mean, he's like, yeah, it's middle school, whatever. They attack my relationship. They attack me, but they're not going to control me. I'm Emmy. I'm like totally in control. Look, look at me. I'm so in control right now. You guys are not going to see the losing her mind anymore. I'm in control of myself now.

1:06:44Ben Mandelker: This tiny hot dog with a flag in it that says cheater is not going to control me. That's for sure, everyone. I am fully unbothered by a tiny hot dog, guys. They are totally right. This little flag that says cheater in the hot dog is destroying them. And they're like, uh-uh. I'm fine. I'm so unbothered. I don't care about this hot dog that says cheater on it. No way.

1:07:08Ronnie Karam: so then um we go to lake getting her cards read by grace and grace goes oh my god did something hit you out of the blue recently did it hurt oh my gosh lake's like um uh i don't yeah maybe yeah

1:07:26Ben Mandelker: something did and then we have a flashback to um her and molly having a heated conversation because that's what got her out of the blue grace goes well i think there's an apology coming through It's an apology Mainly from a minister at a nail salon They're probably going to apologize to you soon So get ready for that

1:07:45Ronnie Karam: So Joe sees the guys Justin and Brad They're talking about the doozy of a boys night they had And Brad's like yeah Doozy is the way to describe it So I'm going to talk to Maddie And Joe's like oh my god thank you that would be great Like 9 therapies I can't afford a 9th I cannot afford a 9th therapist So we see that Maddie is going to be working so it'll have to wait for a little bit. And then it just cuts to Grace going, never stressed, I was blessed. It's in the card. You got two hot, you got a two of hot dogs and a three of buns. You're compatible with yourself.

1:08:24Ben Mandelker: So then we see Brad has a girlfriend named Julia. Oh, Brad and Julia. Who was those Ocean's Loving? Oh, I'm Carl Radke with a commentary. And Brad's like, my playboy days are now behind me because I found a girl that makes me the happiest guy in the world. Julia and I have been together almost a year and I met her when we worked at the same gym. And the second I saw her, I knew that this girl and I really wanted to be with. I mean, ironically, I have to thank Emmy. So yeah, guys, his playboy days are gone. He's definitely not going to cheat. This is totally, totally firm relationship. That's on terra firma.

1:09:02Ronnie Karam: Totally different now. So Emmy is like, oh, my God, I can't believe I have to work this. What a pain in the ass. Like, you're not going to catch me carrying that tray. You want me to carry napkins or something? And Maddie's like, okay, you can carry my napkins. So they start walking around. And then Taylor comes in. And she's like, oh, my God, I'm so proud of you. It's like, stop looking around for the cameras, Taylor. You're not on here.

1:09:25Ben Mandelker: Yeah, seriously. So TJ is like, okay, everyone. First round is going to come out in a second. Here come the hot dogs. who's excited to try the debut of the cheater wiener. So here comes Maddie. She's got like this little tray of wieners. She's like one of those 1920s nightclub cigarette waitresses with the trays, except she has hot dogs. She's like, okay, everyone, it's a cheater wiener. I fucking hate wieners. They're gross. They're stupid. It probably has salmonella. Do anyone want to get sick tomorrow and have a cheater wiener? Have a wiener.

1:09:59Ronnie Karam: So funny. And the guests don't even notice. They're like, sure, we'll have one. That sounds great. Oh, my God. These are delicious. Someone says, what kind are they? She goes, oh, my God. This is flaming hot Cheetos with poison and wiener sauce. Probably boogers on it, too. It's disgusting. And the guest is like, looks yummy. She goes, it's not.

1:10:20Ben Mandelker: She's like, sorry. Yeah, I never knew that this would be my job. Gross. It's just not that good, guys. Don't try it. And TJ's watching like, ew, ew. Oh, my God. I can't believe she would do that to my hot dog.

1:10:31Ronnie Karam: Yeah. So Maddie's like, here, you want a hot dog? It's not very good.

1:10:38Ronnie Karam: She's sabotaging it. And they make Mia's cardboard cutout talk. It's like, Maddie, this is not the new information. Please. It's like the memory. She's like, it is to me. I found out last night. But I'm saying she did this last night on purpose. It's stopping Matt at the boys. And then she just takes me his cardboard cutout and kicks it to the ground. Yeah, that showed Mia. And we just hear someone go, well, guess our beta blocker's not working.

1:11:08Ben Mandelker: Are you guys gonna have a wiener? Come on, guys. Eat the last of the shit dogs that I'm carrying around. You know what?

1:11:15Ronnie Karam: Call out of work if you have such a problem working the event. I mean, have diarrhea or something. Like, fucking Christ. I will after I eat one of these wieners.

1:11:23Ben Mandelker: Maddie's trying to make this day about herself, but Maddie's not ruining my event. She's only making herself look bad. Everyone knows the wieners suck.

1:11:30Ronnie Karam: Sorry Ben, go ahead, I thought you were done

1:11:33Ben Mandelker: Don't make me call the cops Remember when Michael said that to you, Molly? Wasn't that so funny? So then Grace is now reading Julia and Brad's cards She's like, okay, you know what this card is? This is the sex card Look, there's a picture of O'Sheen on it Being naked in Tulum Isn't that amazing?

1:11:53Ronnie Karam: Now, as someone who used to read these in high school I do not remember there being a sex card But I love this She's like, why is the sex card? Yeah, look at it. So good. So Brad's like, well, what does that mean? She goes, it means y 'all are fucking.

1:12:11Ben Mandelker: Sorry, I'm new with this. So now love is like.

1:12:15Ronnie Karam: Grace Lily reading cards is absolutely the best thing that's happened to Grace Lily. I changed my mind. She's so funny. My God, this one is a drive-thru. You're going to go through a drive-thru later. You better tell me to do it.

1:12:28Ben Mandelker: You lost your spoon, by the way It's going to fall off the table at the restaurant So just get ready for that moment

1:12:34Ronnie Karam: I sense some confusion What is a spork? I agree with you, is it a spoon or a fork?

1:12:39Ben Mandelker: Nobody knows Oh, guess what? There's a spork card, everything's solved

1:12:46Ronnie Karam: So Leva congratulates TJ on one year And he's like, well, thank you You know, it's crazy, it's been one year Please buy merch so I'm not broke Next year, we're going to be a brick and mortar Oh, brick and mortar. Oh, it's catching on like wildfire. Started here first. Started here.

1:13:03Ben Mandelker: Wow. Brick and mortar. Hot dog, brick and mortar. So Molly's like, oh my God. And so TJ is like, guys, there's going to be an after party. You want to come to the after party? Come to the after party. Come to the after party. It's going to be fun. There'll be a wet t-shirt contest. Kidding. And so everyone's like, yeah, I'm going to be there. I'm going to be there. Yeah, yeah. So Joe's like, hey, Maddie, I think we should go to the after party. She's like, no, Joe, I'm not going. Why would I want to go to this after party, okay? I'm already barely surviving being near those wieners. He's like, because all of our friends are going.

1:13:30Ben Mandelker: Like, listen to me. Let's get closure. Give them an opportunity to apologize and make amends. No, Joe. If they want to talk to me, here I am. They can talk to me now. Hey, hey, hey, listen. No, I'm here. I'm not going to beg for an apology or beg for accountability. That's stupid, Joe.

1:13:46Ronnie Karam: So, Emmy got a cute hot dog drawing of her and Maddie. She's like, I mean, our hot dog thing's ready. So, that's cool. Joe's like, see, it's not a total loss. We just got free art.

1:13:56Ben Mandelker: I love that they are so mad at TJ and they're so mad at this event. Stupid cheater hot dog. Stupid. But we can get a hot dog caricature. So that's pretty cool. Let's get our hot dog.

1:14:05Ronnie Karam: Let's get our hot dog art.

1:14:08Ben Mandelker: They're still not above getting a free service.

1:14:10Ronnie Karam: Yeah, so TJ's like, I know you didn't want to work, but I appreciate you coming. So Maddie's like, I mean, we're happy to support you, but there's a lot of times where we were around each other and there was so much opportunity to tell me about things that you conspired with Brad and me about? And Brad's like, what? She goes, how am I involved? Just the knowledge of knowing? She goes, I'm like in the group chat, like the knowledge of knowing and not saying. Okay, you're mad, but Joe was also in that group chat. I think that everyone's forgetting this.

1:14:39Ben Mandelker: Yeah, so Maddie's like, okay, so I wasn't friends with Emmy. Remember? She was the fucking bitch last year. I wasn't friends with her. And then TJ, we were friends, and we hung out. And same with you, Brad. We were all friends. I'm just confused why it's coming up again because I thought that we diminished that, which is not maybe the right use of diminish, but I'm going to use it anyway.

1:14:59Ronnie Karam: I'm a hot dog seller. And Jeff's like, well, because we haven't talked and she's gone through fucking hell this year, you guys. Like, it's been terrible. It's been terrible. Like, she actually woke up this morning thinking she was supposed to be sleeping on the side of the charger.

1:15:15Ben Mandelker: Literally everything's upside down. Yeah. And like my phone has been like at 33 % and it's like stressing me the fuck out because of what Joe did last night. But like, when did we talk to diminish anything? We never talked about that. Okay. After the reunion, we were all out. Okay. And Brad's like, wait a second. Hey, everyone. I heard my name. Yeah. Well, Brad, she's bringing up what happened last year. Oh, really? I didn't even know you were upset with me. Like, this is new to me.

1:15:41Ronnie Karam: So she's like, okay, you were accountable. That was great. But like, then you're like really combative towards Joe at boys night. And like you asked him about having a bump it. Like, are you serious? He's a man. If he wants to wear a bump it, that's up to him. And Brad's like, he wants me to give you another apology. What the fuck? Yeah, but you both had apologies. You both had opportunities to tell me. And you need to wait until there's a bunch of dicks and buns to tell me. I mean, that's just not cool. And this would be different if you came to me and you came to me. But instead, Emmy came to me.

1:16:08Ronnie Karam: And Brad's like, oh, my God, stop yelling. Why are you yelling? And now Julia, Brad's boyfriend, comes up. She goes, what is the issue? because when after the reunion, like literally, you like walked up to Brett and Maddie's like, oh my God, could you date someone who could learn their lines? What the fuck?

1:16:29Ben Mandelker: Are you kidding? This girl wasn't even born yet when I was dating Trevor. Like she wasn't even born. Like I think she had her first period when I was dating Trevor. It's rare that you see Bravo stars like making fun of someone for being too young. Normally it goes the other way. Like, what are you, old? So she's like, yeah, you walked up with Bradley and you said let's squash the beef. That never happened. Yes, you did. You're lying. You're lying. You're lying. You're lying. You're lying. You're lying. That never happened.

1:16:54Ronnie Karam: And Julia's like, but then how come when you saw us then you were gonna act all friendly then? She's like, bitch, I found out about this shit four hours before the reunion now. So TJ's like, well, you still showed up.

1:17:09Ben Mandelker: Yeah, bitch, so did you. Guys, guys, guys, this conversation's like getting a little heated. Brad's like, You're not making any sense. You backtrack everything you're saying. Yeah, you do. You spin and deflect instead of being like, I fucked up. I did something wrong, okay? Because you fucked up, Brad. You fucked up.

1:17:26Ronnie Karam: So then TJ's like, oh, really? Well, baby, I could ruin your fucking gear if I showed you the mean shit they said about you in the group chat. She's like, do it then because we weren't even in a good place, but we were in a good place. What are you not understanding? Like, you guys were my friends, but they weren't my friends.

1:17:43Ben Mandelker: Were we? I don't know if we were ever in a good place babe You lie you lie You can go fuck yourself you lie And then Joe's like Hey Maddie Maddie calm down

1:17:54Ronnie Karam: She's like I'm gonna kick your ass Joe's like no no babe No babe I'll let you sleep

1:17:59Ben Mandelker: With the charger tonight on the charger side Come on come on calm down babe come on come on Maddie no Maddie Reese no

1:18:07Ronnie Karam: And that's that That was a good one

1:18:09Ben Mandelker: Oh it was great So wonderful

1:18:13Ronnie Karam: yeah you know a lot of times it's like oh my god why are you still fighting about last season stuff but the last season stuff was really good and it just dropped at the reunion so yeah love it and they're so good at just like holding off for five months they're like yeah we'll fight about it in

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