#3249 RHOBH S15E12: Florence and the Meh-chine

0:26Ben Mandelker: Ben Mandelker How are you, Ronnie? What's new?

0:32Ronnie Karam: Blair, nothing. What are you up to?

0:35Ben Mandelker: Not much. I didn't give you your normal adjectives, so I'm going to say the joyous and happy Ronnie. I could not have chosen two more generic adjectives.

0:48Ronnie Karam: It's better to just leave it than to struggle.

0:50Ben Mandelker: I'm like, guys, let me think about some really basic adjectives.

0:53Ronnie Karam: Let me try to think of something nice to say about Ronnie. I was trying to come up with interesting adjectives and then I wound up on the most basic You will all be crushed under the weight. Don't worry about it. I'm here with this bitch Ronnie Okay, this horrible human bitch Ronnie can't stop binging on Girl Scout cookies because he bought 13 boxes or something Oh, by the way, thank you that to that Girl Scout I'm getting fatter and I'm loving every second of it. Thank you thin mints. Also I wanted to show people I was talking on the Southern Charm recap about shopping at Temu and how they sent me the wrong shirt.

1:30Ronnie Karam: So I had to actually show you the shirt. I pulled it out of the trash can and here it is.

1:35Ben Mandelker: Wow. Slamming bush and pounding tush. Yeah. That is not your Chateau Marmont t-shirt that you claim to have ordered, but I did get the Chateau Marmont t-shirt

1:46Ronnie Karam: too. So I'm hoping this one is not, you know, I also bought a beautiful butterfly shirt and that That one hasn't come. So I'm hoping it's not. This hasn't come instead of my beautiful butterfly shirt.

1:57Ben Mandelker: Well, it looks like a gay in Texas wants a butterfly shirt. Let's toughen him up. Give him the slamming bush pounding tush t-shirt.

2:05Ronnie Karam: Yeah. So thanks, Temu. Thanks for the classy shirt.

2:09Ben Mandelker: We are coming to the end of a very busy week. We had such a crazy week. Thank God, honestly, for the crappies last week because it made this week feel like nothing. And normally this would have been a hell week. we recorded so many episodes this is a crossover week for bravo when shows are ending shows are launching and they always launch new shows on the heels of old shows so we've really recapped a ton of shows if you didn't go back and listen to you know southern hospitality and yada if you didn't watch those shows you should but a big shout out to two of our special guests who appeared on the podcast this week just yesterday we had a hilarious um interview with none other than Candice Dillard Bassett, who you know from Real House as a Potomac and also the traders.

2:53Ben Mandelker: And she just put it all out there. You know, I loved how she answered all our questions. And earlier in the week, we had Rob Sassonino, where we talked also traders and survivors. So a lot of really fun bonus content there. Also, as I mentioned, we a week ago, it's already been a week. The crappies happened. It was a exquisite night of adventure and tears and joy. And we had so many wonderful guests. Thank you again to everyone who showed up. There were so many amazing moments, priceless moments. We don't want you to miss them. If you didn't watch the show, if you couldn't see the show, couldn't be there, there is a replay.

3:27Ben Mandelker: It is still available. Go to our website, watchacrappies.com. You can buy tickets to the replay. It's at crappies.kizwe.com if you want to go directly there. So that's only going to be up for one more week, and then it's gone forever. So go check out this crappies. It was the biggest and craziest of all time. And then finally, you know, Patreon. that's patreon.com slash watcher crappins that's where you can watch the video that's where you can get bonus episodes although our bonus episodes this week are free for everyone and by the way a newsletter there's a free newsletter that lives on patreon but you don't even have to be a patreon member just you can just go over there and you can click on it and you can read it and we had two this week the normal one and then um ron and i wrote about our experiences with the crappies leading up to it all that fun stuff so there's like a lot of sort of extra crap and stuff for you guys all to chomp on this week and we hope you enjoy it

4:17Ronnie Karam: yeah fun times okay let's move over to real housewives of beverly hills season 15 episode 12 i don't know andy keeps saying wow the second half of the season is full on all cylinders it is crazy wow you thought it was slow to start but wow and it's gone no it's still slow but you know what it's still very funny with cracking it's the whole time it's great for us as recappers i think

4:45Ben Mandelker: yeah we just make fun of it i don't know if you're not recapping it if it's great for the viewer because it is a little dull this the season showed signs of life in the middle in the middle and it's like oh my god now it's coming together they're all getting angry at amanda and now it's just sort of like you know it's like the fart has dissipated and we're back down to just you know them lazing about and um yeah i can tell you what there's always more farts to come that's true

5:10Ronnie Karam: there's not there's never just one fart okay so we've let's just keep it going let's have a farty party that's what i say but we open at rachel's house and um she's got a poster in the foyer And it's like welcome home sky By Gucci It's a Gucci poster No I'm dead

5:31Ben Mandelker: Yeah Skyler has been in France for two weeks So she's like sky You just traveled around France for two weeks Did you know you were even in France Did you think you were in Luxembourg Because guess what you're in France I can't believe you just did that sky That's like amazing

5:47Ronnie Karam: He's like I got you a gift She's like oh my god I hope every woman in your life gets you an orange box oh my god yeah this is i'm dead i am dead i am dead i'm not really that and it's a uni bangle from her maids for four hundred dollars and he's like wow it goes nice with your outfit she's like oh my god okay you know what i take it back do not buy a random girl or her maids bracelet they don't deserve that they don't deserve you sky no one deserves this

6:14Ben Mandelker: when i got gifts from my parents for like mother's day and father's day it was like a cherry pitter I would just go to the hardware store and find some like choc there's always like a bin of like weird little chocs that's what I would not buy my parents Hermes bracelets so that's nothing to brag about Ben

6:31Ronnie Karam: although I have to say if I gave my mother an Hermes bracelet she would open it and immediately bite into it to see if it was made of chocolate or something she would not believe it she'd be like what?

6:42Ben Mandelker: one way to find out Ronnie

6:47Ben Mandelker: so Rachel's like I love this Oh, my God. I love that you went to Hermes. By the way, I just think it's funny that there's a 14-year-old kid somewhere in Paris who's like, Guys, gotta stop what I'm doing. Gotta go to Hermes and buy my mom a bracelet. It's very nice. I'm sure with his friends, it's not crazy.

7:03Ronnie Karam: They're probably like, Okay, kids, we're stopping at the Hermes store to buy your mom something.

7:09Ben Mandelker: Everyone's allowed to buy one thing, okay? One thing from Hermes. Can I get this bag?

7:14Ronnie Karam: Sure. The rest of us were at camp carving figurines out of soap.

7:19Ben Mandelker: blocks making a figure out of seashells with eyeballs on it i'm not saying that i did that but i definitely did make one of those you know you know what i'm talking about yes i do of course i went to camp come on i still have it it's like still in my childhood bedroom a little seashell creature um so rachel's like i love this and he's like yeah it goes nice with your fit yeah wow this is amazing don't okay by the way don't buy any random girl on hermes bracelet only for your mom okay wow thanks dead dead for this so now we go to a med spa called the beauty sandwich fuck off i didn't notice that the beauty sandwich y 'all don't eat sandwiches

8:02Ronnie Karam: i feel like it's like making fun of the rest of us it's like ha ha look at what rich people have facial sandwiches we don't do the regular kind you losers you fat old looking losers but it's also like not a name that i would gravitate to if i'm like you want to go to a

8:22Ben Mandelker: day spot let's go to the beauty sandwich like at least call it the beauty baguette call it

8:26Ronnie Karam: like but the beauty sandwich the beauty lettuce wrap like let's make it realistic so the guy ivan is there and he's like are you ready to get snatched because this is like shaper for your face like that's called a bank robbery outfit like what are you gonna put

8:42Ben Mandelker: pantyhose on my face i went on to their instagram they have one million followers the beauty sandwich is apparently like a known quantity on the pinned at the top of their profile emma stone um kim kardashian and who is this person i don't know it's it's oh i'm not anna d 'armus but like it's famous apparently but i don't know i'm sorry i reject the beauty sandwich which I just think you can be famous, but you can also have better branding.

9:16Ronnie Karam: A lot of people have a million followers that I reject, you know?

9:19Ben Mandelker: Yeah.

9:19Ronnie Karam: That means nothing. Now, if you want to throw us some treatments, I'll be in there, baby. I'll come to work next time looking like a shaved turkey sandwich. I'm fine with that. So it's like, oh yeah, let's shave well for your face, okay? It's non-invasive. It's no needles, no lasers. Okay, then why am I paying you? Get out your needles, get out your lasers, and get to fucking work. What am I, here for your prayers? What, are you going to manifest me a better face? Get your tools out.

9:47Ben Mandelker: Shouldn't it be called an open face sandwich? Just saying. So, get it. It's a face pun. So, now we go to son's house, and I guess she got a rolly TV. It's like a TV that's on like a pole, and it has wheels. It made her look like she was in a hospital. She's like, okay, let me just bring this over here to my chair. A little rolling TV. Are you doing a corporate presentation?

10:14Ronnie Karam: Yeah. Well, that's what they're for, rich people who don't have a place to put a TV. Because I'll put it anywhere. I don't care because I'm not rich. So I'm like, okay, it's a fireplace. Nail it into that. But rich people are like, you can't have a TV. It's too tacky. So now they have these rolling things that they bring out. Sutton is definitely someone who shops on Facebook. you know like she buys from the facebook ads because that's where i've seen these the most

10:40Ben Mandelker: yeah to me it definitely just reminded me of like being going to the doctor's office and they like you sit and you know whatever on that like bed kind of thing and then the the nurse attendant comes in and then like rolls a monitor over and takes your vitals but like for her she's watching

10:56Ronnie Karam: like yellowstone or something instead yeah it's the new version of the the big huge tvs that they had on those rolling carts when we were in school you know oh yeah yeah we're rolling and this is like the new version of that and i love that sudden has one and she has that cute dog um june bug june bug carter cash or whatever it's like june bug you better not be up there eating cat poop and then june bug comes down just i mean you could see the cat poop breath yeah she's like burping she's like delicious cat poop it's like look at me here's saturday watching a movie my dogs with 10 cats. Cat sweater.

11:33It's fine.

11:34Ben Mandelker: We are watching Oliver and Company, so that's nice. She's like, I just love when Bette Midler sings as a poodle. So then we go to Dorit's house and Bo's comes over and Dorit's like,

11:53Ben Mandelker: Bo's Ali! Bo's Ali! Welcome! So she comes in, And gives her some rosé. And she's like, I am so happy. Let me tell you, the Hamptons, this past weekend, like Dom Perignon, rosé, champagne, all the entire time. Now, what did you do? I drew a little smiley face in a notebook at Amanda's house. So I guess we kind of had the same weekend.

12:20Ronnie Karam: I'm so proud. I'm so proud of you. All right. Cheers to having so much to talk about, right? Do we have to keep talking about this? Because I've got a lot of gossip and I just want to leave. So let's get on with it. The Hamptons was the most fun I've had in a long time. Rachel was impeakable host, and Kyle and I were finally able to put our differences to the site. And then we see at Jade's Market, Kyle is meeting Amanda for coffee. Will she have the same story? Probably not. Amanda gets her half almond, half oatmeal. Is that ceremonial grade?

12:58Ben Mandelker: ceremonial grade coffee she's like I'm like not a morning person and like I don't know if I've mentioned that but I had to have a facial at 7am this morning and Kyle's like um I need to do that it's like a 911 situation am I right because my skin looks terrible right this is when you say no you look great Kyle you actually look really great for your age okay Amanda your turn to say that to me now okay I'm waiting yeah I get

13:22Ronnie Karam: three facials a month actually like constant facials do you get three facials a month ah hello it's called living in west hollywood what else is new and kyle's like um actually i don't know anybody who actually gets three facials a month and i love that after this whole season this is the first thing that kyle has disagreed with that amanda she's this is kyle's first clue that amanda's full of she's like three facials a month

13:50Ben Mandelker: cut to Kyle furiously texting her assistant get two more facials on the books for me please as soon as possible thank you three more so I can beat her facials are on fleek so Amanda's like yeah but they're all very active facials and I like the machines and stuff and you know but like some of them have a down time so you have to like make sure you don't see anyone for five to seven days but I love a facial And Kyle's like, um, okay So how was your event? Can you tell me about your event? So then I can one-up it with how we went to The Hamptons and met a guy named Xandor Who's actually really cool, he wears a wide-brim hat And hats are kind of my thing, so we kind of bonded

14:32Ronnie Karam: You know what no one who is 20 years older than you wants to hear About your facials It's like, oh my god, I really have to keep young You're 20 years younger than me Wait, she's not 21 years She's 41 years old, how old is Kyle? like 50 something like 10.

14:48Ben Mandelker: Kyle's 50. Amanda's 41 but she's more like a 23 in cult years. Yeah.

14:57Ronnie Karam: She definitely seems younger for sure and spiritually. Maybe she's getting too much buffed off of her spirit during the facials. I don't know. Her maturity level. But yeah so they're talking about facials. Kyle's sick of it. So now they move on to better conversation. and she's like um well like i got everyone journals and like i thought we'd do some basic like tried and true get clear on what you want journaling you know i thought it'd be easy like normally people pay me trillions of dollars for that but like it didn't go great oh um what do

15:32Ben Mandelker: you mean wait did you guys was there like a dj there were you like dancing all night in the dj booth rachel did that and then like i went home early because like i care about wellness but like what was going on with you do you guys have like a thousand people at your like manifesting party that's where we were we were like thousands of people tell me everything

15:46Ronnie Karam: she's like um Boz drew a picture like how disrespectful so then we see one week earlier Amanda's manifestation dinner Boz is just staring her down from across the table while sketching

16:01Ben Mandelker: I think that sketching counts as manifestation draw what you want she's like exit sign I drew an exit sign

16:08Ronnie Karam: yeah well she said she never really journaled before so I don't know like maybe she just wasn't into it It's like oh so they showed up but they didn't Show up for you is that what you're saying Like they showed up but they weren't really there

16:21Ben Mandelker: Yeah they didn't Show the fuck up oh my god Aren't I wild how I just said that You know in the Hamptons you're done Right okay you know in the Hamptons we had like A lot of fun so no one Thought about anything no nothing It was like great like we didn't get into Anything we just like dropped it and had fun And I told myself if it turns into an argument i'll just fly back home okay yes kyle you're going to leave the super cool rachel zo party scene to fly back home if it gets into an argument sure i really believe that did you notice

16:54Ronnie Karam: that amanda was taking off her bottom shoe and then like kind of flipping it up so that i did notice that see her red heels she's like yeah i'm really rich you guys these are ceremonial grade

17:04Ben Mandelker: red heels so they have to dangle off my i can't keep the whole shoe on my heel the heel has to come out you can't heal unless you expose the heel so the heel is out but the toe is in guys

17:15Ronnie Karam: and by the way my husband did not pay for these he's so poor

17:22Ben Mandelker: he can only afford one ceremonial grade coffee per six months god he makes so much no money

17:29Ronnie Karam: so uh we go back to bosun to read and bos is like i don't know should i just jump into it or do i have to hear more bullshit from your mouth okay i talked to kyle when you were in the hamptons and I asked how you were doing and she was like hey look I'm worried about Dorit because she's going through all this stuff and she's buying things and perhaps it's because her moods are erratic a little bit she's crazy she's psychotic she should lose her children I don't understand what's happening with her someone go save the children that's what Kyle said Dorit is nodding like she's in a nodding competition she's like she is like I'm going to outbromlin bromlin because she does

18:00Ben Mandelker: not stop nodding for this whole scene she's like so well she said that a lot last year too and then we see last year, Kyle being like, um, you seem like a little bit more aggressive than usual. You're kind of like cuckoo for Cocoa Pops. Look at her. Oh my God, she's crazy, guys. Should we 5150 her? Oh my God. So then Dorit's like, Kyle, the queen of concern trolling.

18:19Ronnie Karam: Oh my God, you guys, I've really been worried about Dorit.

18:24Ben Mandelker: That's a great way to put it. Yep. A hundred percent. Concerns trolling. So Bo's like, well, she does seem a bit more concerned now. And we go back to Jade's and Kyle's like yeah I mean Doreen's just kind of like all over the place she got glam at 2am before a 5am flight and then she forgot her passport and didn't have a real ID I'm like yes that does sound crazy like it's crazy glam at 2am that's wild and you forgot your passport and your real ID that's crazy but it's also kind of I feel like just being like rich I think at one point you just assume someone is carrying those things for you

18:59Ronnie Karam: you've got to be on camera at 5 in the morning you put on your you get your glam done at 2 a.m. You know, these people do it. And Kyle's also talking to the girl who just got a facial at 7 a.m. So it's not really that crazy. But what's crazier is that she's talking to Amanda about it. Like Amanda and Dorita don't like each other. You're sitting here and you're spreading more Dorita's crazy shit around Kyle. You know, she's so transparent. And what's the point of having a real ID if it's still got your face from three years ago? You've had three faces since then you're cheating on the real id yeah so um amanda's like did you make your flight she's

19:38Ben Mandelker: like yeah we did you know dorit has always been one to run a little behind but an hour to an hour and a half late is completely ridiculous uh it's actually a hundred percent on brand for her to be not remember watching teddy sit there on fairfax avenue for an hour fuming in her first season

19:54Ronnie Karam: waiting for to read and this season even this season has happened like five times she's like oh my god Dorit is late we should get her lobotomized I'm not saying that I approve

20:04Ben Mandelker: of Dorit being so late I think it's actually really shitty and I do think it's crazy that she forgot her passport and real ID like that's wild but I think that Kyle trying to use this as signs of Dorit losing her mind and being manic is just a bit much yeah she's taking things that

20:22Ronnie Karam: you do normally and she's trying to use it as an excuse to get you imprisoned yeah like Dorit's

20:27Ben Mandelker: always been an idiot she's she's like kyle's now saying oh wait she's now being an idiot and it means that she has a severe you know mental health issue right now it's like no this is just

20:37Ronnie Karam: unfortunately the way dorit has always been yeah well look how i'm saying i'm not saying she's i'm just saying she needs to be well maybe not locked up but what's the better scattered so then we go to dorit's house and boza's like well one of the things she said is is she present in conversations? Is she late to things? Late? I said, I can see that. I noticed that. I mean, who doesn't notice that? She's always late. Well, how dear she. But I attribute that to the fact that you're talking to lawyers or the kids, writing books, designing clues, maybe. I'm a woman of the world. A boss beach, as they say.

21:15Ben Mandelker: A handkerchief isn't going to turn itself into a headband by itself. Those things take time.

21:21Ronnie Karam: What would my window do if it didn't have a reflection of someone pushing up against it and looking out with its mouth slightly open as it showed off its new give off see does kyle know how long it takes for a fizz in a coca-cola

21:36Ben Mandelker: to go down when you're pouring it in a glass very slowly it's a long time that reminds me

21:42Ronnie Karam: i need a coca-cola let's want a drink there we go making little more for little jaggy and that girl he keeps hanging out with

21:53Ben Mandelker: well I'm with Dorit in person and I don't see what Kyle is saying I see that she's overwhelmed and perhaps that is causing her to behave in a certain way that other people don't agree with but doesn't mean that she's erratic and it cuts to Dorit and she's like I do have an issue with you know air quotes friends who are concerned yet they don't bring the concern to me and we just spent four days together four days 24-7 that's 24-7 hours in a 24-7 days 24-7 hours in a day in a week. Do you follow what I'm saying, Boz? I'm going to help you through it. You spent a lot of time, and I get it. Even though you didn't actually spend an entire week with her, I'll let you say the 24-7 thing.

22:32Ben Mandelker: I know where you're going with it. Also, who said that?

22:35Ronnie Karam: You or her? Because you haven't closed the air quote. Very confused.

22:42Ben Mandelker: I'm sorry. PK's still the other half of it.

22:46Ronnie Karam: PK is eating the 7 of the 24.

22:49Ben Mandelker: I will say now you know I'm loathe to give Kyle any credit but I will say I can understand if like Kyle did not want to bring it to Dorit's attention at the Hamptons because they're just having a nice time they want to have a fun time and Kyle's just really at that point Kyle's not thinking oh I've got a job to do I'm on a tv show she's just thinking like oh my god do you think Donna Karen remembers me from last night she just wants to be in with the cool people right now So I think she's like, look, I'll deal with this later. But then at the same time, so I get that. But also then don't call up Bose and talk shit about Dorit.

23:24Ben Mandelker: Yeah, I can't. Either be on vacation or don't be on vacation.

23:28Ronnie Karam: Yeah, I'm not going to give Kyle credit. She's doing what Kyle does. She's going to use everybody else as the weapons against Dorit.

23:34Ben Mandelker: That's it. She literally says it later in the episode. That's what she's doing.

23:38Ronnie Karam: You gave us the most boring episode of all time in the Hamptons because you wouldn't do this shit to her face. And now you're going to get everybody else to try to do it. And they're not. So good for Boz for going straight to Dorit. And she's like, oh, and here I find myself, this fucking token moron, token idiot. Well, if it helps you, you're not the token. There's a lot of the answer.

24:00Ben Mandelker: You're more the standard bearer. I actually believed that Quail and I were in a good place.

24:06Ronnie Karam: She's brilliant at that. But what she's doing behind my back is something very, very different. Hmm?

24:14Ben Mandelker: When Kyle changed drastically, stopped drinking, started working out obsessively, became a lesbian, she started to really emulate behavior of her new lesbian friends of hers. She's suddenly getting tattoos all over the place. She's talking like Sling Blade, and she has a straw in her mouth, and not the kind you drink from. Something is going on with her husband, because she's no longer on her Instagram, and I wasn't saying, oh my god, look at her, I'm really worried. like actually you kind of were but that's okay i feel like yeah you actually did do that

24:42Ronnie Karam: that's okay we'll give you this one you did do that and i think that that was valid to be like why i mean you know at the time i was like come on give kyle a break you know but i can see as a friend where you're like whoa suddenly you're not you're a different person what's going on and i think at the time she was saying you're dating somebody and now you're becoming this person and it's fucking weird stopping a weirdo and ignoring me just because you're you know like a five-minute lesbian or whatever also i kind of got that yeah i apologize for uh talking over you

25:11Ben Mandelker: but also kyle's behavior was a significant departure versus what dorit's doing dorit's

25:16Ronnie Karam: not at all yeah that's the point like dorit's isn't different at all dorit's always been an

25:21Ben Mandelker: hour and a half late and scatterbrained so and shopping and shopping too much with money that she doesn't have and never had so she took thirty thousand dollars in cash to a to big lots okay And now this is the issue is that she bought like an extra sundress when this is the same lady who got$30 ,000 of cash lifted out of her cart at Big Lots. Hello. That's the erratic behavior.

25:42Ronnie Karam: That was funny when she kept forgetting the store and the amount. She's like, well, you know, you know how you do. Carrying$10 ,000 for your cart at Target. $20 ,000 for your cart at Best Boy. $97 ,000 for your cart at Pet Boys.

25:59Ben Mandelker: I was at Beverages and Less and they took it.

26:02Ronnie Karam: I was being stoked. Stoked, I tell you. It's Flo behind her. The insurance lady. Wow, what a coincidence. Best YM Pet Boys, both of us, the same day.

26:17Ben Mandelker: So Dorit's like, if she spent a little more time focusing inward on what needs to be done, then maybe she would show up as an actual friend that would make us turn that eighth corner. Not sure what the eighth corner. Meaning that they've... What structure is she in? We're trying to get through this hamster maze together. I'm assuming that they just keep on trying to turn corners with each other.

26:43Ronnie Karam: So many gooners. Coil knows what's on the line in my conchentious divorce. She was the one who warned me about what I say and do out of fear that PK would retool it. And this is the best course of action now to give him something to use against me. she's right of course that's exactly what kyle's doing she is a hundred percent right and i loved

27:05Ben Mandelker: how dorit was like yelling in this confessional like you hear the echo around wherever she's being shot she's like and can you believe what she's saying to me so then bo's like

27:15Ronnie Karam: good good i love that last week when she just started freaking up I'm confessional. Well, if there's trust between you two, she wouldn't need me to come to you and say I'm worried about Tariq. Oh, do you really think she's worried? Yeah, I mean, she's worried. Really? Do you really think she's worried? I do. I think she's worried. Okay, let me ask you this way. Do you really think she's worried? I do. Well, okay, I can say it in many different accents, and you're still going to agree with Coyle.

27:50Ben Mandelker: How about an Italian accent? Because guess what? New topic. I've been thinking a lot about Hot Girl Summer and how annoying it is that we keep on having to say Hot Girl Summer on this show. And I want to take another trip. Italy is the place to be. And Territ's like, oh, Italy is like a home for me. You know, I spent almost a decade in Italy. Parlo Italiano Molte Bene. Parmesan cheese. Meatball. Linguini lasagna.

28:14Ronnie Karam: I should pack 19 suzcats a zine.

28:20Ooh, pesto.

28:23Ben Mandelker: So, Bose is like, polish off that Italian girl. Ooh, good. I don't know what you're saying. I can't tell if you turned into a TV that's trying to get reception or if you're actually trying to speak Italian. But whatever it is, keep that energy.

28:37Ronnie Karam: Clink. I love the sound of this crystal. So, now they go to Rachel's house and she's having a chat with her son in the kitchen. Both of her sons, because they're both here now. and um one of them lights a candle and kaius is like mom he can light a candle he's 14 you can trust him around a controlled flame she's like oh my god you can't like seriously be careful like everything on me is flammable i'm in feathers i'm in rayon like everything my hair like please

29:03Ben Mandelker: just be careful with the flame that that match is like vintage gucci so treat it carefully um so he's like so okay guys guys can we have a serious talk for a second serious talk serious suck. Did someone die? Someone's like, no. Don't someone have a tumor? No. Does someone have a new album out? Xander does. Yeah. Xander has a new album out. You got that right.

29:26Ronnie Karam: No one died. No one has a tumor. So, okay. You guys were at camp, and it came out. Like, I didn't know it was going to come out, but I'm, like, really famous. And I sent something out called a petition. And that's basically me saying your dad's stupid, and I want a divorce. But I didn't want it to be public. And you know what? I wanted you to hear it from me, and not your camp counselors. Or anybody at camp. Do they say it over the loudspeaker at camp? That I'm leaving your dad? No. What do you mean? Do they know who I am? Yeah. Why didn't they announce that? I'm calling the camps. This is crazy.

29:57Ronnie Karam: You guys don't get TMZ at camp? My God, where am I sending you? Fucking Luddite camp. Point is, do you hate your father?

30:05Ben Mandelker: They have a camera. Schuyler's like, yeah, it's crazy. It went viral. But I haven't seen it anywhere. So then did it go viral?

30:14Ronnie Karam: That was such a burn. I like that Skylar comes back and he's like, he gives little burns here and there. And they're very subtle because, you know, he's a kid on TV. But for her to be like, oh, my God, you guys, it went viral. It was everywhere. Did you hear about it? He's like, wow, crazy that it went viral. And I didn't hear about it.

30:33Ben Mandelker: Good. I'm glad you didn't hear it. How did it camp? Like, yeah, I'm sure like the I still by the way, I don't even believe this went viral. There definitely was an announcement when they broke up. Like that hit the news. But like, oh, they have now gone from being separated to filing for divorce. I don't seem to remember that being like massive gossip. But she's like, guys, guys, no questions, no comments. Yeah, we filed the paperwork, guys. It's official, guys.

31:01Ronnie Karam: I remember reading about it and in the comments people were like, didn't she divorce him like 10 years ago? Like what the hell? She's been divorcing him forever. This lasted a long time. But it's like, guys, it went viral. So you're welcome, TikTok.

31:17Ben Mandelker: Okay. So guys, it's like, so you're not in love with him anymore? She's like, I'm not in love with him anymore. It's like different. Because like, you know how like you have a spring look and then it becomes summer and you're like, you're just in a different season. It doesn't mean you don't like your sweater anymore. It just means you probably won't wear it for the time being. So that's what that means. Does that make sense?

31:38Ronnie Karam: This is such a bizarre conversation to have with your kids on camera, right?

31:42Ben Mandelker: I actually believe that they already had a private conversation. Because she actually seems very protective of them. And I believe she already broached this with them. And then she was like, guys, are you comfortable talking about this on camera? And they're like, yeah, sure. We literally don't care.

31:59Ronnie Karam: Okay. Well, don't forget to call your dad's girlfriend a skank. Okay? That's your line. Okay. Okay, so she tells us that she, you know, she thinks kids are better off with happy parents than miserable parents. And she's like, it's important that we have an open forum as a family. Okay, what do we think of Rayon? You're right, thumbs down. Okay, you guys get a cookie. It's a pretend cookie. I don't believe in giving real cookies. Okay, so now let's talk about, like, how does this feel last year? Does it feel better than before or, like, worse than before last year? Like, now that your dad's gone.

32:35Ronnie Karam: Like, is the house better or worse? And they're like, it feels same, but different? Yeah, because the house is different. Like, it's better? Like, I'm hotter? Am I hotter this summer than I was last summer? Just saying.

32:47Ben Mandelker: Caius is like, yeah, I mean, he wasn't really here a lot before, but now there's like no trace of him. Like, that weird little haircut he's had for 20 years? Like, I barely even remember it. More peaceful.

33:01Ronnie Karam: Yeah, he had a big energy though, right? Like, I guess. so she says that Caius was mad at her for letting her be treated the way that she was and she's like that means I wasn't modeling what marriage and relationships should be like and now I am because like single ladies should be in Fendi and more importantly how to talk to someone you love so they know now when you love somebody you put their carry on into the carry on compartment for them thank you

33:31Ben Mandelker: guys the forum needs a new topic. Should we address what happened on the way to camp since we haven't discussed that yet? And let's make sure you're close to the camera when you say it. Like, sure. So Kias is like, basically, Dad was there because he drove us there and he was like, this is my friend and she was like, hi. And I just looked away and I was like, oh, that's the person. Did she look terrible? Was she dressed well? Probably not, right? I'm so sorry you guys had to see such bad fashion.

33:59Ronnie Karam: Okay, you guys. I don't want to make you uncomfortable, so I'm just going to make this a 1 to 10 scale. Okay. 1 being Humpty Dumpty, 10 being Big Bird. How ugly was she?

34:13Ben Mandelker: What sort of fast fashion was she wearing? I actually don't care that Raj is speaking to someone else, but after speaking to the kids, they don't want to know her, and they don't want to be around her. And they're at an age where they just have to listen to them, okay? And we have to listen to them. If I was dating a guy, and the guy showed up in express men i'd have to be like i'm sorry you can't be around my children it's just not up to the level that they're used to okay you guys are going to stay with your dad because i'm

34:42Ronnie Karam: going out of town but like if she's there you don't have to be there okay and you have the right you have the right to say it like okay sure bro she's like oh my god did you just call me bro did you just call me bro you should never call your mother bro unless your name is xander he's

34:57Ben Mandelker: like actually so cool he's like an amazing musician he's great so now amanda's in um her she's in her mom car her quote-unquote mom car she's driving with her wedding planner

35:08Ronnie Karam: uh tyler god she's so annoying she's like oh yeah well this is one of my cars it's not like the nicest of my car so it's like my nice it's like my best mom cars because it has all the things so like i have other cars though like i have so many cars but we're in this one day but Like, there's more. Don't worry.

35:26Ben Mandelker: Do you want to turn on the massage setting? Yeah? Sorry. I know this car is so dumpy. It just only has the bare minimum. Okay. So she's like, Eddie and I are getting married on 10-10-26. And we're basically taking over the towns of San Inez and Los Olivos. And I have bought out every hotel in the area. And we have so much to do to get ready for our guests. So that basically means she's just going to drive around and be annoying.

35:52Ronnie Karam: She bought out every room in San Inez and Los Angeles. I'm sure. I'm sure. So, oh my God, how do we get 200 people to come have like a vineyard moment with us? Do you invite them to the fucking vineyard? She's so annoying. This lady is too much. She's ridiculous. And I love that she's telling this guy who throws luxury weddings in Beverly Hills for a living. She's like, oh my God, you want a massage? My seat's having... He knows. He's been in these cars before. So they pull up to Theoni Collection, and it's lifestyle event rentals. So he's like, oh my God, if you can parallel park this thing, you can do anything.

36:33Ronnie Karam: She's like, yeah. I make tens of millions of dollars, raise four children, parallel park like a boss. Don't underestimate me. My husband may be poor, but I'm not.

36:44Ben Mandelker: I'm just so sad that she keeps using boss as like an adjective. It's just so sad. she's like yeah i'm gonna park like a boss winning um also i wish this place the fione collection i really wish it was called the tale leone collection and it's just like i was thinking that too i just rent items from her life it's kind of like the marlo ham like marlo's vault but it's like the tale leone version just random stuff she rents out from her house she's like well

37:13Ronnie Karam: i've only got three goblets david stole the other one but you know still got them you need three for

37:17Ben Mandelker: wedding this is the sweater i wore when i had to hug uh the old guy from succession who played my dad as that giant wave crashed down on us in deep impact tia leone was in succession no no brian what's his face oh her dad you just sent me into a loop i just remember his name what's his name

37:41Ronnie Karam: i did not appreciate tia leone in succession she should have been if they knew it was right for that

37:46Ben Mandelker: show uh she could have been and be like guys i'm really sorry there's been a problem like that could have been her only role just to say that there was a problem and she would have nailed it

37:59Ronnie Karam: so they come into this place and uh tyler the guy is like today i just really want to focus on things that light up your eyes let's light up your eyes we're gonna get a vibe check she goes oh my god let's vibe check it yeah because your wedding's like a whole weekend that we're planning I mean, there's like so many events. Like, how do we get people to pick up a vineyard for a vineyard moment? Am I right? I already said that. Yeah, but still.

38:21Ben Mandelker: So you're scouting for the locations for the after party after the wedding on Saturday night and then the day after party and the rehearsal day on Friday. So four parties. By the way, there's nothing to scout. There's like four venues up there. Everyone has their weddings in pretty much the same places and they all go the same things. Everyone goes and parties at Maverick or whatever. They all go to this place and that. It's great, but stop acting like there's a big scout. You just pull up the lists, throw a dart at it, and you'll have a great wedding. So Tyler's like, you want to look at chairs?

38:55Ben Mandelker: And she's like, yeah, I love the idea of a rustic chair. Would it be kind of amazing? Whoa, why don't we do a blue china and a rustic chair? Wouldn't that be just so boss?

39:07Ronnie Karam: Yeah, I'm very decisive. That's why I'm rich. He's like, well, like if we have menus on the plate, they could be beautiful. And then they could like tell the guests what's coming. Yeah, that's what menus are, Tyler. You didn't just invent menus.

39:21Ben Mandelker: Think about it. Instead of surprising the guests with what they ordered, there could be like a piece of paper that's kind of like a roadmap of what the meal would be. We call it a menu. I don't know. Just thinking out loud.

39:32Ronnie Karam: Something like that. It's like, yeah. I mean, hey, guys, welcome to the perfect gluten-free, fabulous Russian Christian Jewish wedding. girl just tell people i hope people see this before they go to your wedding so they know to

39:43Ben Mandelker: just bring food i know just because you're gluten-free doesn't mean you have to make it

39:49Ronnie Karam: gluten-free for every single person yeah really get your own 100 people i mean there are plenty

39:55Ben Mandelker: of very nice gluten-free options but like come on like give some like you know put a throw a

40:02Ronnie Karam: crostini in there okay yeah i mean listen if i ever get married just because i'm gay i'm not gonna force everybody to suck a dick just because they come to my wedding. Give me some bread. Yeah. And a dick while we're at it. Yeah. So then Tyler's like, oh my God, remember when you said you were looking to spend like 300 ,000? And then like very quickly we learned that you like very nice things. She's like, yeah, because I'm rich. He's like, yeah, it's gonna cost so much money.

40:30Ben Mandelker: What's the wedding budget? That's what the producer asked. She goes, ha ha. So I don't actually have a budget. I told him that there's an amount I probably wouldn't go over. And that was a lie. Like, listen, there's nothing that he would say to not spend my money. Okay. So like I make, I make that much in a month. What, what Eddie makes in a year? I'm sorry. Eddie makes in a month, what I make in like a year. So there's just like things I'm happy to pay for. And no one could stop me from doing that because he's basically barely even a man with the$15 he makes mowing lawns around Los Angeles. Am I right guys?

41:06Ronnie Karam: Yeah, but Eddie makes him like a whole year I can make him like five minutes It's so funny I'm basically not even marrying a man I'm just marrying a man on a stick Who comes with children already It's like crazy He's like poor He's like really poor I handed him some I handed him a sponge And like every time I come home I make him like jump in front of my car And try to like clean the windshield And I say no, no, no I don't have any dollars It's really romantic

41:33Ben Mandelker: I think aesthetically Eddie trusts me he said this is whatever you want and I'm also paying for it so like there's that I remind everyone I'm paying for it all but we both want each other to have what each other wants so like there are Christian things there's Jewish things there's gluten free things I mean everything's gluten free I mean we just want to have all those things together

41:57Ronnie Karam: I also want a section on the outside with a rope where Eddie's poor family has to stand behind it and just kind of look through the window. Yeah.

42:06Ben Mandelker: And I want people to journal before they step into the party. And if they only do a doodle, they're just not allowed in.

42:12Ronnie Karam: And just because I'm really into charity, I would like a box where people bring canned goods and that can be Eddie's groom cake.

42:22Ben Mandelker: So Eddie says he wants to ride out on a horse. I was like, great, get yourself a horse. So we're going to do a hora and then we're going to step on the glass. we can do all the jewish things but there's gonna be a worship song and a gospel choir like full

42:34Ronnie Karam: interfaith with a horse with the horse you know what's crazy even the horse makes more money than eddie i found out it's like crazy he gets more per hour than eddie does nuts yeah he just wants

42:48Ben Mandelker: to come through barn doors and lead everyone to the cocktail hour and tyler is like he's just like

42:54Ronnie Karam: on a horse okay yeah on a horse and i really want to fly in on a helicopter but he doesn't love that idea i mean thank god he doesn't get a say because he's poor jesus christ how is this man marrying her like i don't care how much money you have is it worth it she's horrible she's so horrible to this man my god it's like he's so pathetic can't wait to marry him yeah he is

43:20Ben Mandelker: amanda is crazy and she wants to fly in on a helicopter but he doesn't want the helicopter because it's going to scare his horse. How about you just both use your feet? How about we use like no other accessory to get you down the aisle? So Amanda's like, oh, and oh, by the way, I thought it was such a fun idea. Like there's a helicopter. Wait, the helicopter's landing. Holy shit, the bride is on the helicopter. Holy shit, the audience is like looking at me. Holy shit, I'm walking up the aisle. Holy shit, the audience is leaving. Holy shit, no one wants to be here. Isn't that like an amazing moment with a helicopter?

43:53Ronnie Karam: And we see a clip of Eddie going, but the helicopter will scare my horse. She's like, oh, my God, tell your horse to get a job. Yeah, I thought it was a fun idea. Like a moment. Like a helicopter. Oh, my God. Tyler's like, oh, my God, I love it. We're going to find the perfect spot for it.

44:07Ben Mandelker: What are the odds that there will be no shade at this wedding? All the attention is going to be put into how to get the helicopter in, how to get the horse in, and all the guests are going to be in blazing sun. It's going to be boiling hot. They're all going to be sweating. And then the sun's going to go down. It's going to be freezing and there won't be a heat lamp.

44:22Ronnie Karam: what are the odds that that's going to happen totally what are the odds that her wedding dress

44:25Ben Mandelker: says i'm with stupid with an arrow pointing what are the odds that um there's gonna be a whole cocktail hour for 200 people and there'll be only one bar station and like one order of station and they're gonna run out midway through because she's so focused on her helicopter totally

44:43Ronnie Karam: we've all been there we've all been to those shitty weddings we've all been to narcissist weddings.

44:48Ben Mandelker: Yeah, where they really don't care about the guests.

44:51Ronnie Karam: So we go to a boutique where Erica and Kyle meet up. And Erica's like, hey, didn't you go to Italy with Lisa Vanderpump? And Kyle's like, oh my god, yeah, Mo just got in a Ferrari, because he's really rich too. We took the Ferrari, and that was a fun Lisa. You know, then life got complicated, let's say.

45:10Ben Mandelker: Goodbye, Kyle! I love that they threw in that clip out of nowhere. So then Kyle's like,

45:15Ronnie Karam: Goodbye, Kyle!

45:18Ben Mandelker: have you talked to Dorit since we got back from the Hamptons or anybody? And Chris is like, no, I haven't.

45:24Ronnie Karam: What's up with Dorit?

45:25Ben Mandelker: Oh, well, I think she's very worried about her life. Because I think, because like, listen, I was very worried about my life post separation. And I didn't even have the financial stuff to worry about. Because, I mean, let's face it, Mo and I kind of have the best separation in the history of separation. You're welcome. But like, I don't know. She's like a little cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs. When people are going through problems,

45:45Ronnie Karam: like, don't you ever think like, oh my God, How do poor people do it? Erica's like, oh, bitch.

45:53Ben Mandelker: Yeah, well, that stress is terrible. So Kyle goes, of course I'm worried about Dorit, but she does not want to hear what I have to say when I never say it to her in the first place, even if it's good advice. And I'd rather talk to people that Dorit actually is listening to so maybe they can get through to her. Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.

46:10Ronnie Karam: So she's like, yeah, when we went shopping, I was getting worried for her because she was, like, saying she has to pay for half of everything. Well, what do you mean? half of what well uh she's like it's unclear because they were like talking so much like i couldn't even get a damn answer like i don't even know like half of what half the mortgage half the kids schools half the bills what are you two acting like you don't know what half of shit mean if you have to pay for your live your life what do you need an answer for yes so we see a flashback

46:38Ben Mandelker: of of the reason saying how pk pays for all that stuff and erica's like somebody who's still involved in this financial drama half a decade later. Cut a deal and move on and find something else to do. By the way, this piece, this cardigan is not made bullshit.

46:54Ronnie Karam: I like that they walk in and there's all these sweaters that say, like, literally say cute on them really big. Yeah. It's like printed on them and then Eric and Kyle look at them and they both go, Oh, cute.

47:09Ben Mandelker: The sweater's like, let me help these bimbos along. A little on the nose.

47:13Ronnie Karam: Well, I want to know if something's going on with Dorit that she's not telling us. Because I was the same way. You know, Dorit's not drinking on antidepressants and looking like an ass. But I remember how angry and frustrated and upset I was when I was at my limit. So that's why I get it. Okay, let's not bring everybody to Tom's level. Although we are talking about PK. So, man, I hope something was going on and we find out soon. Because I've been waiting since the first day Dorit came on this show for those two to go down for fraud. You know that it's bad with those two. Find them. Why can't you find everybody else, Bravo Police?

47:46Ben Mandelker: Yeah, we still remember that lady who confronted them at the pool in Florida. Yeah. Over the Caribbean. So Kyle and Erica are paying at the register. And Kyle's like, do I have MoPay for this? Oh my God, look at me buying something so expensive. I'm going to make MoPay for it. I'm like, man, the least you can do is just like, as long as you're accusing of Dorit, of purchasing things erratically, at least try to purchase something like very cheaply so that way at least your argument can hold some water but when you're showing that you're just buying something expensive like everyone else and you're showing that this is actually the norm of what happens on the show with this group of people you're really kind of undermining your own case here

48:27Ronnie Karam: but she's not poor that's the point I mean it's like Amanda can go shop but Eddie can't have those shopping scenes you know because he's poor don't know if you heard so now we go to the ladies packing for Italia. And, you know, it's like typical packing scenes. And Erica's like, Hey, Lyle, did you get your European permit to drive? Because you really can't drive, Lyle.

48:57Ben Mandelker: Are you excited to go see beautiful Tuscany where you'll be driving my ass around? Don't you think it's a vacation?

49:03Ronnie Karam: Oh my god. I have to get my poochie. Okay? Like, I want all the caftans, but they have to be all Italian designers. Because, like, what else would you wear in Italy but Italian designer? Armani, Gucci, Versace, Dolce.

49:19Ben Mandelker: What don't I love about Italian designers? Okay, let me get something that's, like, drapey and flowy. Oh, my God, I love that. But you know what else I need? Something that's, like, drapey and flowy. Oh, my God, vintage Gucci. I love it. Wait a second. Wait a second, assistant. we really need something that's like vintage and flowy. Oh my God. Oh my God. Poochie. Oh my God. I love it. Love it.

49:40Ronnie Karam: Oh my God. You know what brand I want to try? Roger's new girlfriend's a whore. Oh, I'm sorry. I meant Poochie. I meant Poochie. God, I hope the kids didn't hear that. So it's the departure day. LAX luxury terminal. So Bo's and Sutton get in the lounge first and have some caviar. And Sutton's like, okay, listen. So I thought that I would room with Amanda. You're welcome. I'm a good person now. Okay. Sutton 2.0. This is Sutton Brown talking.

50:09Ben Mandelker: Yes. I feel like Amanda is very neat. And I'm also a neat person. Neat in terms of how we clean up after each other. Not neat in terms of personalities. Okay. And I decided, you know, I need to give her a better chance to annoy me. I felt like I was only partially annoyed. I want to be fully annoyed. And I want to give her a chance to be understood. and heard and tell me more about herself and feel uncomfortable doing so. Basically, I just want her to say some crazy shit and then I can bring it to the group and then I'll be the hero this season.

50:38Ronnie Karam: I'm on an ammunition run. Okay. And Boza's like, well, I'm worried for the tension of the group because it could be something bigger. So we're traveling in three groups. The first group is me, Kyle, Amanda, Sutton, and Natalie. And then a few hours later is Erica, Dorit, Rachel, and the third group, Kathy and Jennifer. God knows if they'll ever get there. Good luck to them.

51:00Ben Mandelker: but America get ready you're going to get a trip with Natalie what everyone's been asking for Natalie Fuller joining the cast trip for no reason

51:11Ronnie Karam: poor Natalie she seems so nice but oh gosh she's just she's just not there is no splash there is no splash being made sometimes these

51:22Ben Mandelker: friends of just don't pop now I will say I was thinking about it just now as we're talking normally you would expect Sutton to room with Jennifer. Do you think that Sutton opting to go with Amanda is like a weird

51:40Ben Mandelker: sign of something going on with their friendship? Because they have had some cracks this year.

51:45Ronnie Karam: Yeah, probably. And I think Sutton's probably a little gel that Jennifer is this huge star on the show. I'm going to be fun with somebody else. Like Amanda. Oh God.

51:57Ben Mandelker: The funnest of them all. Yeah. So Amanda and so Amanda and Kyle arrive. So the first group leaves and now Erica and Rachel arrive and Erica's like, God, the bag cut off is in 30 minutes and Dorit is yet to even leave her house. It seems. Oh, my God. Where's Dorit?

52:14Ronnie Karam: Dorit being late today is not an exercise in me being pissed off because it's literally like she cannot miss this plane. Like this plane is like not waiting for her. It's not private. It's going with or without her. Okay. Like that's just how planes work. So Rachel's like, yeah, if she's not here, they're going to just throw her luggage on, you know. And Erica's, I've got anxiety. So now we go to group three, and it's Jennifer and Kathy. And Jennifer's like, I'm dying for a martini. Where's my passport? Oh, jeez. Jesus. So traveling with Kathy is like herding kittens. And there's all of these moving parts and bits and pieces and pillows and bags.

52:59Ronnie Karam: It's not the relaxing start to a trip that I was hoping for.

53:05Ben Mandelker: Because Kathy is chaos. She really is. She's like, I can't find my tissues. So then guess what, guys? Dorit, she gets off. She arrives 55 minutes until departure. So 55 minutes until departure.

53:19Ronnie Karam: That's actually really good for her. that's like fine you know yeah that's good that's really good especially first class you don't have

53:27Ben Mandelker: to be there 19 hours early for first class i always think of the movie hello again where shelly long plays some sort of like you know orchestra orchestral orchestral person she's a she's in the she's in the orchestra and she shows up to rehearsal and someone was like i don't remember her character's name they're like oh my god you were almost late and she goes that's called being on time and for some reason i always remember that like i was like she is so right yeah oh god

53:58Ronnie Karam: girl we've been cussing you out and she's like why i didn't miss the flight i've still got 18 hours so then we go to tilly and it's her on the you know taking footage on the phone and uh she's narrating the layover in switzerland and it's just kathy running around where's my bag do i have a

54:18Ben Mandelker: face do i have a face right now they literally got fondue at their layover i mean i was like wow maybe it's a long layover or maybe it's just what i guess i guess they probably i don't know i've never been laid over in switzerland but i was like well while we're in switzerland guess we'll have a pot of fondue right now for the next 10 minutes before we get our next flight that was so funny to me i was also so jealous could you imagine being able to have fondue with Kathy Hilton and Jennifer Tilly in Switzerland. That's kind of like my dream scenario.

54:51Ronnie Karam: My dream scenario is finding Kathy's phone on the plane because Kathy leaves her phone on the plane. That's the phone I want to find because you know there's no lock on it or anything. I feel like you could just open it right up and start looking through it. Now we're in Tuscany. Both Sutton, Kyle, Natalie, and Amanda are driven to the villa and it's Villa Bibiani. And so we get the like dong, dong, dong, dong, dong music and the host, Devonor, comes out. He's like, are you ready to enjoy the Italia Dolce Vida?

55:21Ben Mandelker: So they walk around. It's like a very Italian villa with all sorts of ornate art, etc. And they go through this tour, and there's a wine cellar and a theater and chandeliers and a chapel. And Bose tells us, Villa Bibbiani is owned by my friend George. He invited me to come here a dozen times, and if I had known his villa looked like this, I would have come here a lot earlier, but who would have thought a guy named George would have such a fancy villa? Wow, and I would have come here without all these broads.

55:54Ronnie Karam: So Stefano's like, oh my God, look at the room. Oh my God, look at the other room. He's got so much energy, this guy. Jesus, what's the Italian water over there?

56:03Ben Mandelker: Really excited. So Kyle gets a queen bedroom, and then so the son in Amanda's room is two twin beds, and Kyle, of course, starts laughing, and sudden it's like if I had known when the producers had suggested that I room with Amanda that I'd be stuck in a tween bed I never would have said yes I thought I was helping the show and this is what I get in return son is so unhappy with this situation yeah because it's not even just

56:33Ronnie Karam: that it's two twin beds it's like it's like a set of where nuns stay you know it's like you're looking at a bedroom and an abbey on sound of music and the other rooms are like wow look at this there's a waterfall in my room wow look at this bed it spins in circles turns upside down and boom you're in space this is crazy and then you get to the other room and it's like wow here's

56:56Ben Mandelker: a here's a stone slab to sleep on okay i know next to the money queen so they so sudden amanda sit on their beds and they're talking and son's like well this place is beautiful too bad we don't get to enjoy it because we're stuck here in nun prison but i wanted to talk to you okay because i'm guessing you might be a little surprised that i asked bows for us to room together and amanda's like you know i have conflicting opinions about rooming with sutton sedona was rocky the manifestation lunch didn't go well so i guess we'll see my favorite part of this is sutton walks

57:32Ronnie Karam: in amanda is like on the bed with her eyes closed and sutton goes are you sleeping she goes yeah i'm really tired so i'm just gonna sleep okay well i want to talk to you about both what did you did you not hear me say i'm going to take a nap ma 'am so something's like i want to start some shit with you so when i was at your house okay i was quite i guess strong okay and i thought you were a bit wishy-washy with your opinion missy about doreen's divorce and that's why i was so forthcoming with

58:01Ben Mandelker: you at your house okay well i still think that doreen and i had been able if we'd just been able To step away it could have been sorted out Easily like with context It would have just wasn't like Me being someone going around Talking bad about her I just you know I just hope her and I can just Like sort it out you know

58:21Ronnie Karam: Well I do too because you're not

58:23Ben Mandelker: I'm still gonna talk because I'm earning money And I do think to say To her like I didn't mean any harm I would never want anything bad for her No yeah and No I never intended to hurt her in any way but I don't think I've ever said this. And here's the thing. It was an informed opinion. It's not a random opinion that I have no background in. When I was getting my master's in counseling and manifestation arts, my focus was in childhood development and play therapy with children and their parents. So I'm basically a licensed therapist that's been like considered the best therapist in America.

59:01Ronnie Karam: Is time different in Italy? Because I think an hour has passed. You started talking God damn it

59:07Ben Mandelker: You know many of the children That I blessed with my presence Came from divorced homes So I can think a lot Of the situations in which parents Are talking badly about one another It just hurts the family And I just don't know if she cares about my informed opinion

59:24Ronnie Karam: Okay but I don't know I don't even know where I am anymore I don't know what time it is Is it still light outside My eyes are rolling to the back of my head

59:32Ben Mandelker: I just want to just reiterate that I have an informed opinion.

59:36Ronnie Karam: Okay. Well, that's great. Okay. Well, I've also been new to this group, and I know how it's felt to have been kind of picked apart a little bit. Of course, mine was by Lisa Rinna. That's a real big dog. She'll get you. You want to be gotten? That's who's going to get you. Let me tell you something. Let the mask go. Let the mask go. Okay.

59:54Ben Mandelker: When I started thinking about that, I thought, you know, I just don't want Amanda to feel alone just because she is alone, right? Because we all hate you. You know that, right? Okay. Because I can empathize. Now, that's an informed opinion right there because you are a dodo bird. Very informed from all of us.

1:00:08Ronnie Karam: I was just really trying to give you advice, which is, you know, Dorit can be hard to like. Well, like get your point across to her is what I meant. So what happened to me personally was I would hold back and then I would just blow up, you know, like lose my mind. Like lose it like I'm about to do right now. I mean, actually, you are a very good foil for Dorit now that I think about it. It's like putting stupid up against stupid and just watch a stupid go. You know what? You're going to be fine. Forget I said anything. I hope you don't mind. I'm going to take a nap.

1:00:37Ben Mandelker: Now, let's see a montage of me blowing up at Dorit from an era that the fans call Fun Sutton.

1:00:42Ronnie Karam: And then we just see Sutton being like, don't pick a pocketbook.

1:00:49Ben Mandelker: Then, yeah, just her just yelling, et cetera. So Amanda's like, I think that if she wanted to get to know me and to resolve things, there'd be space for me to speak. Well, I would personally, for my dealings, I would make sure you do that because, you know, you might lose your brain like I did. And honestly, it'd be really fun to watch you and Dorit fight.

1:01:07Ronnie Karam: Wait, you mean if I don't tell her how I feel? It's like, yeah. Well, yeah, I mean, I don't feel like I'm holding back. I mean, I just haven't seen her in a while. Please don't tell me I'm holding back in my own room.

1:01:20Ben Mandelker: Amanda needs to find her voice and not the one you used from when you were five. Okay, let's use like a nice 40-year-old woman's voice. Okay. Cause that has a business that has a bit. Okay. Own who you are because you need to be strong upfront and truthful to read. Otherwise she's going to rip your head off, chop it into little pieces and serve for everyone to enjoy. And we will be laughing.

1:01:40Ronnie Karam: Yes. I love this. It's like, I'm going to make peace with Amanda and then just fucks it up the second she walks in. It's very sudden. Well, good luck with that. That's the end of this episode. So yeah,

1:01:52Ben Mandelker: there you go. It's a quick little episode where they flew somewhere. so that's exciting and I guess we'll see how this all pans out in the meantime after this we are going to go and recap the first episode of the Ladies of London reboot can't wait to talk about that be sure if you've got some time this weekend settle in with some crappies love check out our replay and that's at our website watchfacrappens.com and we will talk to you on the next episode bye everyone

1:02:50Ronnie Karam: Bye.

1:02:52Ben Mandelker: Erin McNicholas, she don't miss no trick-a-less.

1:02:55Ronnie Karam: Hava Nagila Weber.

1:02:57Ben Mandelker: You'll never hide from Heidi Eleanor Jones. I go, you go, we all go for Hugo. Jamie, she has no less name-y.

1:03:04Ronnie Karam: Sips some scotch with Jessica Trotch.

1:03:07Ben Mandelker: She's not a McBee, she's a McBride. Jess McBride. She's our favorite streamer, Caroline Peacock.

1:03:13Ronnie Karam: Kristen the Piston Anderson. Get a bee in your bonnet with Lacey B. K-sirah-sirah, whatever we'll be with Lauren Sillsby. She gets an A from us, it's Lindsay D Let's give a kisserino to Lisa Lino Fresh as a daisy, it's Maisie McHenry

1:03:29Ben Mandelker: Aren't you glad it's Marianne Arns?

1:03:32Ronnie Karam: Megan Berg, you can't have a burger without the Berg

1:03:35Ben Mandelker: This is Livin' with Michelle Vivian

1:03:37Ronnie Karam: I love a ya, Olivia Williamson

1:03:40Ben Mandelker: She sure is swell, it's Raquel

1:03:42Ronnie Karam: Yes we canna, it's Sadana

1:03:44Ben Mandelker: Cast a spell with Shannon Spellman Let's share with Sharon Eldridge Darn Skippy, it's Tippi.

1:03:51Ronnie Karam: And our super premium sponsors. She's VVIP, it's Amanda V.

1:03:56Ben Mandelker: Can I have a Kavanaugh? It's Anna Kavanaugh. Somebody get us 10 cc's of Betsy MD.

1:04:01Ronnie Karam: We're taking the gold with Brenda Silva. Let's get real with Caitlin O 'Neill. Put us on a stretcher, it's Charlotte Fletcher. Hogle your horses, it's Christine Hogle. Don't get salty with Christine Pepper. Can't have a meal without the Emily sides.

1:04:17Ben Mandelker: Who, what, why, where, and Gwen. Pentland. Nobody holds a candle to Jamie Kendall. We got our wish. It's Jen Plish. My favorite Murdo, Karen McMurdo.

1:04:27Ronnie Karam: She's a total knockout. It's Katie Mannock.

1:04:29Ben Mandelker: Let's get savage with Laura Wildman. In the study, with a candlestick, it's Leslie Peacock. We're ride or die for Lisa Ryder Baron. She's a whiz. It's Liz Sarthy. Always killing it. It's Lola Alkalani. Roger that. It's Marlis Rogers.

1:04:44Ronnie Karam: The incredible edible Matthews sisters. She eases our woes, it's Melissa St. Rose There's a chance of meatballs, it's Rebecca Cloud She's our princess, it's Rebecca Prince

1:04:55Ben Mandelker: Maximum love for Sandy Maximoska She's the queen bee, it's Sarah Lemke We cannot tell a lie, it's Sarah Talafson Shannon out of a cannon Anthony Please don't stop, it's Soli and Pop Let's take off with Tam La Plaine Strike a pose, it's Tori Rose

1:05:13Ronnie Karam: She ain't no shrinking Violet Kuchar We love you guys.