#3258 Southern Hospitality S4E02: Powerpoint Taken

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1:25Ben Mandelker: When there's so much that happens When there's so much that happens When there's so much that happens Who cares what happens When there's so much that happens

1:37Ronnie Karam: Well, hello and welcome to Watch What Crappens. I'm Ronnie and that's Ben Ooney over there. Hello, Ben.

1:44Ben Mandelker: Hi, how's it going?

1:47Ronnie Karam: Good. Everybody, welcome to Southern Hospital Day. It's going to be a fun one. It's going to be a fun one. Good episode. another good episode right in a row. Everybody, if you want this on video, you get that through our Patreon, as well as bonus episodes, free newsletter blog thing about Bravo's last week, and ad-free listening, Discord community. You get that at patreon.com slash watch what crap happens. Okay. Today, we are doing Southern Hospitality Season 4, Episode 2, Folly Follies.

2:25Ben Mandelker: exciting exciting times over at folly beach no in carolina's south carolina there

2:33Ronnie Karam: yeah fun episode let me think of powerpoint differently yeah yeah i really appreciated um

2:41Ben Mandelker: i appreciated maddie using powerpoint not out of spite but in defense of friendship oddly enough it's not what i was expecting normally people are like i'm gonna make a presentation of why you've been terrible to me. But she's like, I'm making a presentation on why we were actually really good friends.

2:59Ronnie Karam: Yeah. We also met possibly the best sponsor that we've ever seen. It's been a really good week on Bravo because last week, or maybe it was a week before, we didn't meet her, but we saw Erica's therapist on Beverly Hills, who I love. I think she's great. And now the sponsor, who I think is great. A lot of great non-fake helpers, I think.

3:20Ben Mandelker: Yeah. Yeah. sponsor was a really good one sponsor was like that PowerPoint no good this is not do not enter this into a court of law or a court of Bravo and just how well she knows Maddie she's like um were

3:34Ronnie Karam: you doing the pointing thing and the waving your hands thing and then they show her doing all the things that the sponsor is calling out she's good she's a keeper she's good she's good um and there's

3:44Ben Mandelker: just more intrigue and I do love that the episode opens up with Maddie giving a four-year recap to get into this episode it's all started four years ago i was like that's pretty cool like i love a show that has like it has lore now like you you need to know the full timeline to understand how we get into the second episode of this season you really do yeah it's and that's what these shows

4:10Ronnie Karam: need that's why like the new vanderpump rules okay you know some people are like whatever they need time to get mad at each other over years yeah yeah decade-long feuds i mean the

4:24Ben Mandelker: best shows do have that that like deep undercurrent of resentment that like carries on from year to year to year i mean like a like like it's not just like a oh this year we're mad at each other it's like this goes back to season one you know you did that thing in season one that i'll always resent That's why it's so fun sometimes to watch the Valley and you see flashbacks throughout the years of Vanderpump Rules of terrible things that were done by someone, usually Jax, to someone else, usually Brittany.

4:56Ronnie Karam: Yeah, you need to know the fight behind the fight because it's never about the current fight. It's like real life. You're not mad at me because I left my underwear on the floor. you're mad at me because of a fight we had three years ago where you said you know you feel respected when i make you know whatever when i make the effort to blah blah blah sorry i'm getting too personal i'm like and i'm pissed um or like a an example bravo people will get like kyle was not mad that vanderpump supposedly leaked stories about puppy gate she was mad because lisa vanderpump brought up mauricio cheating in the blogs in front of porsche like five years before that you know it just grew and it grew and snowballed and snowballed until kyle finally got everybody to go against lisa vanderpump and finally won you know so you have to know the lore guys and this lore is bradley got a blowjob behind a trash can a long time ago and it's gonna keep going forever.

5:57Ben Mandelker: Yeah. And the question is, I was thinking about this. I mean, I don't think about this question a lot, but I was thinking about it last night. Did Bradley get that blow job? Because he always denied that he got the blow job. And he said he started the rumor about Maddie and her ex out of spite. So that way Maddie could see what it's like to be on the receiving end of a vicious rumor. But the problem for Bradley is that he successfully lied about that for like a season and a half so now when he says he didn't get that blow job unfortunately he is the one on record who is the liar so yes i have to believe that he was getting that blow job now and convincingly lying like we all believe yeah so you're basically like i'm the best liar here

6:43Ronnie Karam: so how about that it's like well yeah and of course he got the blow job at the at the trash can of course he did of course he did what a random thing to make up yeah about someone like oh it's all been getting a blowjob the other well first of all our friends wouldn't really care i mean if you were like ronnie got a blowjob behind your trash can they'd be like again ronnie jesus

7:05Ben Mandelker: use the bathroom at least now i do remember though i mean i think that they brought up that blowjob thing because that was in retaliation for something else like um i think bradley was like calling out at that time, Maddie, for something with Trevor. I just don't remember what it was. So there is that too. I mean, Maddie could have been motivated to lie, but I think now that Bradley has, it's proven that he launched a very intentional and hurtful lie against Maddie. You just have to assume that when he says he didn't get that blowjob, there's a very good chance he could have gotten that blowjob now.

7:43Ronnie Karam: He got that blowjob. Yeah, I believe 100 % he got it. And you know, more power to him. It's not like he did. It's not like he, you know, it was with someone he shouldn't have. I mean, it was because he was dating somebody and that ruined his relationship that he got so upset. But, you know, listen, I say blowy where you blowy. Get your blowy where you can. Okay. Yeah. It's like when there's someone passing canapes. Would I expect that to happen on the subway? No. But I would take it if one was passed. It's canapes. Yeah. You're going to take it. When they go blow, you get the job. Okay, so we are starting back with the argument we ended on last week, which is Maddie freaking out on everyone after TJ's Wiener event.

8:28Ronnie Karam: It's Sir Wiener's event. And TJ's like, I think you have a hard time with the truth. And she's like, oh, honey, I get the truth. I read the truth, okay? I've got it. And he's like, oh, baby, I could ruin your fucking year if I showed you the mean shit they said about you. She's like, do it, do it, because we weren't in a good place, but we were in a good place so that's it it's okay if i fuck you over because we didn't like each other but when you fuck over someone that you like that's very different we were in a good

8:57Ben Mandelker: place i don't know if you've ever been a good place babe you lie and you lie hands flying everywhere well you can go fuck yourself so then joe pulls maddie back and he's like stop maddie stop stop no stop it joe stop it stop it back up back the fuck up back that's enough maddie people are staring at us from the street then brad jumps in and he's like look i wanted to have a normal conversation with you but you started yelling and getting ridiculous because you keep on getting combative and defensive and he's like i wasn't you were the one who was combative and defensive

9:30Ronnie Karam: maddie you're getting combative too and brad's like thank you thank you joe thank you she's like bitch i have the right to joe bitch i have the right to he's like um i know you do but not here maddie not at a sir wiener's event this is a very classy event you you took it where it is

9:46Ben Mandelker: okay we're here because you're yelling okay we'll go private then i like that she talks about it like uh like an instagram account fine i'm taking this private you have to request access

9:56Ronnie Karam: so listen this is a very classy event where we try and solely people's reputations by naming

10:02Ben Mandelker: hot dogs meaning after them yeah you you can't get too loud at that kind of thing So they're like, okay, we're going to go inside. And so they go.

10:12Ronnie Karam: Enjoy your salmonella, everybody eating hot dogs.

10:16Ben Mandelker: So they go inside, but Joe follows. And Maddie's like, not you, Joe. Stay back, Joe. He's like, okay, all right. Well, you're just yelling at everyone, huh? So Molly tells us, we all know who wears the pants in that relationship, and it's not Joe. Yeah, thanks for your insight, Molly.

10:32Ronnie Karam: They need to duke it out for a second without the drama. Joe, shut up, you stupid bitch, Joe. shut up just leave joe it's like jeez okay i'm gonna stand right here behind the bar and watch you guys while i play with little drink umbrellas so um joe uh so brad and maddie go talk and brad's like look i apologized and you said it was fine after the reunion and i thought we were dropping it and then you keep coming back with jabs and she goes because you keep doubling down you do though

11:02Ben Mandelker: How am I doubling down? You're doubling down saying like, oh, I said this at the reunion. When did we talk at the reunion about this? When I'm crashing out and crying? He's like, no, you said, I appreciate the accountability and the apology. Literally, those words left your mouth. And then after the reunion, you immediately said that, like, let's, I want to drop this completely and move on from it. No, that, that, that's the part that never happened. That never happened at the reunion. This past year, we met in the hotel lobby and I saw Emmy and I saw Will and I saw the entire staff which has nothing to do with what you're talking about but i'm just letting you

11:34Ronnie Karam: know who i saw in the lobby he's like but emmy and will didn't hang out with us after the reunion she goes yeah so i went up to them and i found out you were outside our private hotel room and he's like what she goes yeah well brad didn't check on me after the reunion but emmy did and emmy told me that brad was stalking her outside of her hotel room and brad's got plenty of time to check in on emmy's hotel room but none to check in on me whose life he just blew up okay so now we see what emmy's doing and he's like oh my god he's been stalking me he heard what i was saying because he was standing at my door and stalking my hotel room instead of like i was yelling and cackling so loud with will on the phone with my mother bragging about how much we burned you at the reunion that they heard it from the elevator yeah so um so then maddie starts

12:22Ben Mandelker: reading the text on her phone and so brad you know brad's like um you know because he shows the phone and everything like lower your fucking voice you're dead to me too because he wrote that to emmy and so brad's like i could hear through the wall and she said brad and tj are fucking dead to me and after sitting through the reunion stage crying saying how she wanted to try and make a relationship with us i texted her and said you're dead to me too bitch because she said it first so she also went after that she she also went after i texted her and said that i made her feel unsafe and that is not cool and maddie's like that's not cool yeah that's not good it's like

12:54Ronnie Karam: yeah it's fucked up and so maddie so this is why i love maddie because she gets she's like so mad she's like you are wrong and he's like no but here's what happens just oh no you're right yeah that really is uncool wait a minute she's like calm all of a sudden yeah she like she believes it she she knows that he's in that moment she knows he's telling the truth and he's like yeah it is fucked up so he says after i heard emmy's rant screaming behind closed doors in the hotel room. I'm getting ready to go to the club. And then I get a text from someone that we work with, which, you know, means production.

13:26Ronnie Karam: And the text says, I don't know what you said to Emmy, but she's saying that you made her feel unsafe and she's moving hotel rooms. And he's saying, you know, that's dangerous. Like, that's why I'm pissed at Emmy because you use that verbiage against a black man. You know, that can do a lot of harm, like not only to my reputation, but like that could put me in jail, you know, and was I making her feel unsafe when we hung out this time and they like show pictures or like when we were doing this and they show pictures and all the memories of them being friends and he's like yeah calling me and like unsafe and

13:57Ben Mandelker: using the word stalking like yeah nah by the way standing outside someone's even if he's eavesdropping even if he was just standing there eavesdropping that's not stalking okay so let's not minimize people who really do have stalkers too uh that's just that was definitely like a it was definitely a very Trichelle moment for Emmy.

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17:43Ronnie Karam: she's like i want to let go of this resentment bradley okay i want to move on you know i'm just saying i'm her and i want to be validated because like honestly you're all fucking up you shook you shook my world up like i'm not kidding my reality was blown up like i blew up my own relationship because i trusted you like i did love him like a lot and we see clips of maddie and trevor together and um this is fucked up and i can't believe she's like she says you know i feel like a piece of shit that i trusted you guys and and dumped my partner i didn't trust my partner and okay i do feel really bad for her the reason though that you didn't trust your partner is because

18:19Ben Mandelker: he had cheated before so yeah he sucked he sucked them out it's not like trevor was some like

18:25Ronnie Karam: paragon of virtue that got caught up caught up on all this mess it was a believable lie because trevor was kind of a slime bag that also she did really love trevor and you see the different energy that she had with trevor that she has with joe it was just a different energy and she should call trevor and sit down with trevor and talk to him i don't know if she has or not but she should

18:46Ben Mandelker: because she this is going to eat her up forever she should but also like uh don't forget like Yes, she threw his phone down and showed up with a shovel at his place, which was always hilarious. But she got back together with him afterwards. So what ultimately ended their relationship, I think, unless maybe it was – maybe I'm not remembering it correctly. Maybe it just was that the rumor was such a cancer that they ultimately could not get past it. But they did try to move past it because she didn't believe the girl. And so the girl, Sammy, I think her name was Sammy. So I don't know. But I do agree, though, that ultimately it's actually a really fucked up thing to do.

19:22Ben Mandelker: Like, it's really, really fucked up. And the fact that they didn't, like, fess up to it or say, well, you know what? Honestly, we made this up because I wanted you to see how much it hurts to, you know, have a rumor made up about you. The fact that they actually never, like, fessed up to it and they were never going to fess up to it, except that Emmy is the one who actually brought it out to the fore, is actually, like, darkly fucked up. Like, that's like you really you mess up someone's trust. And that that was a relationship. So it was definitely not cool at all, even though Travis or Trevor seemed like a piece of garbage.

19:56Ronnie Karam: I mean, the whole group is fucked up because they all knew about it in this group text and nobody did anything. Joe, her boy, her current boyfriend was like, OK, well, let's let's get proof. Like, let's fuck it. He's in the group text. So, yeah, the fact that she's dating Joe and Joe did the same thing is great. this group was just so fucked up and no one's even saying sorry he's bradley's just saying like well i'm sorry i hurt you but i did it because you hurt me first it's like what what you got a blowjob but how is you getting a blowjob behind a dumpster the same so um anyway so she's telling him like i was hurt and he goes you know well i'm glad you're telling me okay she goes yeah i'm hurt you know like i feel guilty for smashing his phone and we see her smashing his phone and then like pulling up with a shovel see her pulling up with a shovel and she says but you know like i was so proud of myself for like standing up to a cheater and i just feel like a fucking moron now you know

20:55Ben Mandelker: so she's like i feel like i'm fucking i feel i'm just like fucking hurt brad like you used to like pretty much like live in my house like i was like one of your first fucking clients like i feel like we're so fucking tight brad like we would go to parties together brad like all this stuff brad Like, I don't know how to move forward from here, Brad. Like, I want to move forward, Brad. He's like, okay, well, I'm glad you're telling me that now because now I know we can do something about it. Well, I want to let it go, obviously. I just get emotional talking about my past. I was like fucking 22, toxic as shit.

21:24Ben Mandelker: So we're fucking you, okay? I love she's talking. Like, she has so much perspective now. I was 22. I'm at like year 10.

21:32Ronnie Karam: It's year 10 of this show. Joe's like, wow, these hot dogs chase me. Shut up, Joe, you stupid bitch. Shut up. so brad's like well maddie's my friend i don't want to see her cry and if i knew it would had this big of a ripple effect i wouldn't have done it in the first place and she's like okay well i appreciate you having this conversation with me so we can move forward now because like i want to build that trust with you again brad okay brad he's like well okay let's move forward she goes yeah i'm trying to like work on my dark side so i'm working on that he's like okay so let's drop it so now um it's a new day tj is taking a shower with his vacuum cleaner the mia cutout is next to

22:14Ben Mandelker: him he's like mia don't look he and then michael's um and lake are at brunch and lake's like i'm tired a little hungover and he's like i'm tired and she's like but yeah did you have fun at tj's party and we see that they were all like skinny dipping and we hear him say i just got a dingleberry in my mouth so then back to the present uh michaels is like yeah how was your talk with molly and she's like to be honest i like really don't remember it and then we see a flashback that they kind of like squash their beef drunkenly at this party and molly came up to her and was like um i just want

22:51Ronnie Karam: to make sure that you me are good because like i care about you and i care about our friendship let me finish let me finish and i would not be talking to you if i didn't care can we say this finish i'm not finished are we good okay i'm finished you can talk now go ahead yeah drunk words drunk words

23:06Ben Mandelker: are sober thoughts so me and molly are cool like we're good yeah i drank a lot michael's oh yeah these two really like they really just have such sparkling conversation together yeah so justin dirty justin look just dirty vibes from justin i don't like the vibes that

23:29Ronnie Karam: Justin's giving off. I don't know what it is, but I'm sure we'll see soon. Definitely dirtbag. So he's texting Jordan, the girl that he's dating from work. And she's like, do you miss me? And she's like, I just saw you a few hours ago. And then we see that Jordan and Justin kissed. And now we see me and TJ on FaceTime. And she's like, oh, my God, my trip was fabulous. Amazing. It was dreamy. He's like, well, I have a guest Mia here. Isn't that funny? You got a little beat up at my Sir Wiener's party. It was crazy. Maddie just hit you and stepped on you. Like, it was really bad. We had a huge blowout fight after the party.

24:04Ronnie Karam: She said crazy ass things. And then we just like pissed off essentially. And like, she was like doing this at my event. Like, I cannot believe she was ruining a Sir Wiener's event.

24:13Ben Mandelker: Mia's like, well, if you want to take a hit at the real Mia, I'm right here. We can see who'll win. Except I'm going on another trip. I probably won't join the cast again for another, I don't know, six weeks or so. You'll wait for me, right?

24:25Ronnie Karam: So we go to Maddie's and this is the scene with her sponsor, Julia. And Julia is like rough and tumble. She's like, hey, do you want a coffee? I mean, that's the way. She's like, yeah, I mean, fine. Coffee. Yeah. Fuck. Yeah. Coffee. Yeah. Put it in my veins. So Maddie's like, Julia is my sponsor. You know, she's she's been sober 11 years, which is crazy. And she Julia was like another young person with sobriety long term. So, boom, they're friends. so they're talking about last night and um maddie's like oh my god i could cry about it like like you know what resentment really makes you want to drink she goes yeah i know okay so start from the beginning okay well i went to work and then tj like everyone was there and then like emmy and like who's standing next to me she's shaking she's scared as fuck and like tj instantly started getting like really combative with me and like we instantly got into it and julia's like so he started with you and she goes and we see a clip of maddie being like you like fingers in his face and yelling in his face and then it comes back to her and she just has a long pause and she goes yeah and then it's like bitch you want to raise your voice and i'm better at it you know what i

25:35Ben Mandelker: mean julia you know what i mean julia's like well we know you're the best at it yeah for sure you can definitely raise your voice and i'm i'm sure you're doing a lot of this you know with your hands on the left and right and shut up joe shut up joe and i don't fucking understand brad and

25:50Ronnie Karam: you know all that stuff she's like yeah i guess joe is eating tiny hot dogs out of a bowl and you yelled at him and called him a bitch god you're good god you're good tj looked at me it was like

26:01Ben Mandelker: we were never friends you were never my friend and like literally like literally i made a powerpoint to show we were actually friends and she's pulled out a powerpoint to show photographic evidence that they've hung out before. I'm like, you could just reference the footage. Like, we get it. You were friends.

26:17Ronnie Karam: She stayed up all night. But I love that you did PowerPoint. I love that she stayed up all night to make a PowerPoint. And Julia's like, oh, wow. Yeah, you said we're never friends? Okay, well then why are we outside of Republic? Or why are you there when I'm DJing? Or us at Universal. Us at Universal. It's crazy. He couldn't make the magic thing happen in front of that window, which is really weird. But I was still his friend.

26:40Ben Mandelker: Yeah, they call it limited magic. So Matty is like, and look, here's me sleeping at his house. Look, and here's me. Like, here we are at Starbucks. Julia's like, you know what? I think I get the point. You can move forward here. Yeah, TJ was saying that we were never friends. That was just another gaslight experience from him. So yeah, oh, here's us in Tampa.

27:00Ronnie Karam: Yeah, do you have non-friends that you go to Tampa with? I don't think so.

27:05Ben Mandelker: This is us in Springfield, Massachusetts. We were driving by the Basketball Hall of Fame. That was hilarious. He wanted to listen to Kelly Clarkson on the radio. I was like, no, you've got to listen to my new mix. We have so much friendship. So Julia's like, okay, can we just like, can we go forward? She's like, did you send this to him? No. Should I? No, don't send that to him. Do not send this to him.

27:26Ronnie Karam: Yeah, don't send that. It's like, well, you know, do you know what? I picked TJ up from jail, okay? Three years ago, that motherfucker was rotting in jail with a DUI. And that was his first phone call. And his first thought was like, who's up and who would be sober? So like, I should have just let him rot in jail. And then we see a picture of TJ in jail, like, looking good. And then it says, not charged under it.

27:50Ben Mandelker: So Julia then says, so you came home last night after the fight and went up to your room and made a PowerPoint presentation? Yes. It's like DJing, but with photos. Okay. I was fucking pissed because it's hard not to look at them in the eyes and think about all the fucked up shit that they said. And then imagine what would happen if that was in slide form.

28:11Ronnie Karam: Like, I'm not calculated about this shit, okay? Like, I don't think about shit all the time, but like it happens. She goes, yeah, this, but this is incredibly calculated, okay? Because you stayed up all night making a PowerPoint, okay? Did you even know how to use PowerPoint? No, but you know, I have the internet and I learned. I'm really good at PowerPoint now. Okay, yeah, it looks like you're spending a lot of energy on these people. She goes, yeah, but you know what? I did this shit last night. Like the shit they did with Trevor, that was calculated. Because that was two and a half fucking years they worked on that.

28:41Ronnie Karam: I mean, they blew up a relationship with someone I thought was my soulmate. Like sometimes it does bleed into my relationship with Joe sometimes, you know? Like I can't even tell like Joe, shut up, you stupid bitch. Without even, without feeling like a little guilty. Like should I be saying like, shut up, Trevor, you stupid bitch. You know what I mean?

28:57Ben Mandelker: Like sometimes I just like show up at Joe's place with a shovel. And I don't even know why I do that. Things just bleed in, you know?

29:03Ronnie Karam: I just broke Joe's phone the other day. I don't even know why.

29:06Ben Mandelker: When I'm like, I feel like sometimes I'm like scared to move forward, Joe. And I'm like scared. Let's like move in and marry him or whatever. It's because like I've struggled trusting people around me. It's like, I feel like I'm like a fucking idiot. Like I'm like, Trevor did not deserve that shit. I'm like, Trevor probably did on some level. Let's be honest. So Julia was like, I think the most important thing is you trying to figure out what is the end result that you want? Will you be giving a corporate presentation with this PowerPoint? because if not, you should probably delete it.

29:36Ronnie Karam: And she says that she talked to Brad and he's willing to build trust, but TJ was not resolutional at all. And Julie is like, well, just open the door and say like, look what happened last night. Can't happen again. I won't allow it. And if it starts to happen again, I'm...

29:57Ronnie Karam: ...on the PowerPoint. And she's like, no, don't show the PowerPoint. Okay. so don't so just don't i shouldn't bring my laptop just in case he has to see like what if he's like god i could really use a powerpoint right now what if he says something like that can i show

30:13Ben Mandelker: my powerpoint then no no don't show it so we're now at uh justin's and tj's uh tj i'm sorry justin's place and tj's visiting and uh tj's like oh you got a candle that's nice no one got me a candle and justin's like yeah you know everything here is essentially for the female gaze because i I want women to come over and say, you know what? This guy seems to have his shit together. I might want to have sex with him. Oh, my God. That's so cool. Wow. And then there's like undies nearby. It's like ladies undies under a couch or something.

30:45Ronnie Karam: Yeah. And he's like, yeah, man, just trying to squeeze the happiness out of life. I'll bet you are. I'll be just squeezing every drop of that happiness out multiple times a day, sir. And TJ's like, well, I brought a wine opener because I don't think you have one. And he's like, wow, I have one. You know why? Because it appeals to the female gaze. Yeah.

31:06Ben Mandelker: Yeah. So he says, my last relationship, you know, I moved to Australia with her and was head over heels for this person. Like, that was the first time in my life I really felt passion. I felt love during sex. Not just, like, empty ejaculation. But sometimes you get too freaky and it ruins the relationship. And the producer's like, what does that mean? Well, there was a little threesome that went wrong. so we can all imagine what happened there so he says he's like yeah i've been having too many sleepovers jordan's been staying over every single night man you know it's obvious fun to go out and have a one-night stand you know clap cheeks but i'm always you know chasing you know that passion and that intimacy like oh sure i i fully believe that that's why you are out the outfitting your apartment for the female gaze that way any woman who comes over will have sex with you but yes for For sure, you're on the journey for passion.

31:58Ronnie Karam: And it's just a guy who's used to people with such low standards that he's like, yeah. Outfitted for the female gaze, a candle and a wine opener. Oh, yeah. Gets them every time. Gets those ladies every time. Well, you know what? We need to get you a body pillow. I got you a gift, though. I got you a gift. No, you didn't. Yeah. You have to close your eyes. Okay. Should I close my eyes and open my mouth? Yeah. You could if you want. He's like, yeah, I'm going to pass on. Okay, put your hand out. So he puts a giant glass dick with gigantic balls into Justin's hands. And he's like, oh, my God, what is this?

32:38Ronnie Karam: And he's like, it's a decanter. It's a dick canter. It's a penis-shaped vessel for alcoholic beverages.

32:46Ben Mandelker: I really hated this thing because I didn't like its design. in order to pour the wine into the decanter you had to like pour it through like the tip of the dick and had the tiny little slot so they had to like pour very carefully that doesn't seem useful and then on top of that when they had to pour the wine out of the decanter into the glass they had to rotate it to an almost unnatural angle so yes it's funny that it's a dick and balls but next time make it a dick and balls that makes sense for what you're doing thank you it's

33:14Ronnie Karam: or it's poor industrial design it really is yeah it's like 100 the the dick is like bent it's curled under which is weird first of all for a day that's supposed to be hard it's like curled under like fish hooked so and the balls are huge so they're too far so when you pour yeah you're right you have to go like turn the wine has to go away around the balls it has to like

33:37Ben Mandelker: go around the perimeter of the balls just to get to the shaft oh no actually you could pour the yeah because like because the dick is going in that direction so it has to like go around and then down it's like it's like they didn't test it out that's my problem you have to use it

33:53Ronnie Karam: yeah i mean you would think they would if you're going to mass produce this giant cock thing you'd think you wouldn't test it but they didn't okay this town needs more cock testing is what i'm saying so um justin's like oh gosh i've poured in over the white carpet Oh, God. Oh, look at this precision. Did I spill it? I'm so locked in. This is what I feel like when I'm shaving my balls.

34:16Ben Mandelker: I didn't know you shaved your balls. I'm shocked. It's like, well, how do I explain myself to women that come over? I'm already fighting gay accusations left and right. Jordan accused me of being gay. Well, I mean, because she saw you kiss Michaels and I in front of her. Oh, yeah. It's one of these guys.

34:31Ronnie Karam: One of these guys desperate for attention, so he's going to go make out with gay guys to get a little attention and then pretend like they're crazy if they like him. And he's like, yeah, that probably didn't help. So one night we're drinking and we're having some fun, and next thing I know, like I turn around and Justin's making out with Michaels. And then he turns around and starts making out with me.

34:52Ben Mandelker: Is Justin a good kisser? Justin is an excellent kisser. So Justin is like saying, that he took, you know, what's-her-face home, so whatever. And he tells us, I mean, I've exclusively dated women, but I think I'm 30 % gay, depending on how many tequila sodas I have in me. So fast forward 12 weeks from now to the reunion. All right, Justin, what percentage gay would you say you are? Have you ever expanded marriage with a man? Have you ever had sex with a man? Have you ever had kiss with a man? Okay, we're going to commercial, and we're back. More questions about how gay is Justin. Tell us more about your sex life, Justin.

35:27Ben Mandelker: you know this is going to take up a full-on segment of the Southern Hospitality reunion.

35:32Ronnie Karam: What did you think of the dick decanter that you got? Did you use it? Did you ever lick the tip? Show me you're using it. Show me you warming up the decanter.

35:43Ben Mandelker: And then Justin tells us, I remember watching Twilight back in the day, looking at Robert Pattinson and thinking, that's a guy I could get behind. Shout out, Tops. So who knows? But no one's 100 % straight. I'm like, you are queerbaiting right now. Yeah, I could feel it.

35:59Ronnie Karam: You are 100 % straight. You're just a straight guy. I hope. I hope. I hope for our sake that you're 100 % straight. So Mia's coming back today, and Justin's like, yeah, I had a crush on Mia. And then she's like, I'm going to Hawaii. So I hope he proposes a story of my life, right? Then I probably fucked some guy up the ass. I'm not going to tell you if that's true or not. Just let you wonder.

36:24Ben Mandelker: yeah first time i really i met mia was in vegas and kind of sensed a certain tension i could i don't know i could be overthinking it there so mia's like um i thought he was gay i thought tj brought him as a romantic interest and him and tj were just sharing a room so you tell me am i right so justin's like you know but now they're just pouring more of the wine out they're joking about tickling the balls to get it out and everything and you know whatever so now we go

36:46Ronnie Karam: Yeah, tickle the balls, you'll get a heavier pour.

36:51Ben Mandelker: We go over to Republic, and Lake and Maddie say hello, and Michael's like, how are you feeling after the party? He's like, oh my God, my mind was racing. Honestly, I feel like I stood my ground on how I've been feeling the past couple months, and we've never had a conversation about what happened, and just like, wow.

37:08Ronnie Karam: Hey, everybody, it's me, Brad. And they're like, oh, oh, well, I'm in a much better headspace after talking to my sponsor, but i still have all these unresolved issues with tj and mia so like they were also in the group chat and they were trying to sabotage my relationship but they haven't tried to talk about me or like try to make amends like brad did um already is everyone ready happy thursday

37:29Ben Mandelker: everyone brad can you stop farting in the fridge please thank you um another beautiful night at republic are we all excited everyone can we get excited hello hello anyone excited okay everybody

37:43Ronnie Karam: get the floor set up. It's time to set up the floor. So I guess just everybody go there and set up the floor. So they do. And they're talking about they're going to be so busy tonight. And Justin goes up to Jordan. He's like, what time you work until? She's like, probably 3.30. He goes, maybe I'll wait up. She's like, okay. Brad's like, me and Julia. So Brad comes up and he's like, me and Julia are going to have this house in Folly for our year to do. Like a little staycation. So I was thinking we could have like a party, you know, like, you know, a bonding type thing.

38:18Ben Mandelker: You know, like me, we'll have everyone there for our one year anniversary, Mia, TJ, everyone, every single person in this place. And he's like telling Maddie this right in front of Emmy. And Emmy's like putting together the sign furiously, like. So Brad's like, yeah, you know, and we can sit down and talk. And, you know, it's like, I like that when we were able to talk, you know, we made better progress. Right. So let's do this. And he tells us, you know, Maddie's really good. Maddie will take a beef to the graves. The fact that I was able to, like, settle things with her was really good. So hopefully there's hope for her with TJ and Mia.

38:53Ronnie Karam: So he's like, okay, so in the spirit of progression, come out. You know, just cheer each other out. And Maddie's like, okay, yeah, I want to move forward. And I appreciate you inviting me, okay? So they hug, and Emmy's just watching. She's like, what about me? I mean, what about everything Brad's done to me for, like, the past few months? like all that bullshit he put me through all that shit you did at the reunion at the hotel like yeah i'm kind of hoping for a fucking apology all that stalking i couldn't even leave my hotel

39:21Ben Mandelker: room okay because he was out there breathing into the peephole it was awful so um then we see emmy leaving and uh she's like so julia walks in that's brad's girlfriend she's like hi and he um and joe's like hey brad just invited us to the anniversary party that seems pretty good why do i keep eating these hot dogs disgusting so joe's like yeah uh i mean so emmy's like oh i wasn't invited not invited at all so uh joe's like really you weren't invited yeah and ask me who set them up who set them up it was me could you tell by the setup of that joke god

40:01Ronnie Karam: yeah i'd like talk to up so much to julia yeah but then how come you're not invited to their anniversary party joe keep up joe i mean he's like whatever i'll have the party when they break up but honestly like i thought brad would have cheated on her by now burn i mean you're talking like you've been cheated on nine million times babe yeah that's the thing it's not a burn from

40:24Ben Mandelker: you brad this entire time was just trying to warn you that will has been cheating okay so um michael's like okay um has anyone seen joe where's joe okay i'm gonna look for him he's supposed to be out here like leading by example and training you justin oh my god i feel like recently at work joe will show up but like showing up is like the bare minimum

40:51Ronnie Karam: so the search for joe continues okay so that's that so michaels is like um i feel like recently at work like joe shows up but like he does the bare minimum could you go outside for me and train

41:05Ben Mandelker: justin joe joe's a lead vip host and that means you lead and you train and when you don't do that it kind of like shows the other host that you don't like really care about your job so joe's like oh yeah sure so he goes out to justin's like i mean i feel like he kind of got the seating chart down so like i don't really know what i've got to be here for yeah proof that he cares about

41:26Ronnie Karam: his job okay justin knows the seating chart if he didn't then you would have a point yeah joe's just kind of like whatever he's like i'm bored i've been crushing on the front door for five years like i can do it in my sleep like i want to own my own bar i feel like leva gave tj this incredible opportunity to grow his business but what about me joe what's your business yeah what is it tj came up with wieners joe what did you come up with you haven't come up with anything what are they just handing out wiener businesses no he made that wiener business happen yeah also did

41:58Ben Mandelker: you not watch vanderpump rules and see the calamitous uh path that was tom and tom going to business and opening up one and then a second bar it's not for the faint of heart so like do I think what TJ did was find an ancillary thing, though.

42:14Ronnie Karam: Yeah, he doesn't even want to do that. Yeah, he wants to find something. He just wants Leva to give him something. That's not how it works, Joe. Okay, Leva will profit off of any idea that you have, but she's not going to come up with an idea for you to profit off of, you dumb dumb. And if you want to start a business, start a bump it business. Are you wearing one? Start one of those. I'd buy a bump it from you. At least Johnny Weir would purchase from you.

42:36Ben Mandelker: Yeah, seriously, they have the same haircut. it so um we see a flashback of when leva like at the serena event when like level was congratulating tj or something and joe's like hey love i'm next she's like huh i'm next what what does that mean

42:51Ronnie Karam: play beer pong i mean joe yeah like what is it what are you talking about joe he's like like uh business wise and she's like uh uh so back to now he's like where's my opportunity when is it my turn when you do something joe come up with something so julia is asking brad she's like did you invite emmy to folly because i think that you'd be like the bigger person if you invited emmy because like you can't be as bad as her invite her and have the conversation like listen it's the only chance we're going to get this episode to see emmy hyperventilate okay just invite her it'll

43:27Ben Mandelker: just be so fun for all of us brad's like you know the unsafe comment has been weighing on me more than anything else. So it's not easy for me to deal with it. But me and Emmy haven't talked for damn near a year at this point. I don't know if I'm ready for that yet. And I kind of feel like I understand what Julia is saying, but the unsafe comment is really bad. And I don't think that Brad should be like pressured to have to like bury the hatchet. I think he should do it on his own terms.

43:52Ronnie Karam: Well, he definitely I mean, I think she's first of all, Julia is good for TV because Julia is like, okay, I know you don't want to work this out on private, but you need to call this lady out on camera in public at a whole party where the whole cast can get on her about it. And I think that's good advice.

44:09Ben Mandelker: Well, I mean, it's good reality show advice because anytime there's a season of two people that are not talking to each other or avoiding each other, it actually often ruins the show. You usually get a bad season. So it will be good for this show. But on a human level, I can understand if Brad is kind of like, yeah, don't really feel like going back to that place again.

44:30Ronnie Karam: Yeah, yeah. You're going to do it. Call her out for her bullshit Karen-ness on national TV with the whole cast there to back you up. If you're going to do it, this is the way to do it.

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46:46Ben Mandelker: Over 1 million small businesses trust Stamps.com. Go to Stamps.com and use code PODCAST to try Stamps.com risk-free for 60 days. So now Molly, TJ, and Mia are going to have some, just going to have a catch-up, a little kiki at a place called Azure. And so they all, like, Molly's, like, sitting down, but she's, like, picking out her shorts. And TJ's like, are you all right? What are you doing? Did you just have, like, sex with Justin or something? Oh, my God. Female gays. And she's like, I'm picking up my wedgie. God. So they say hello. And then Mia joins. She's like, hello. Sorry, I'm on Hawaii time right now.

47:25Ben Mandelker: Which I'm sure they all really wanted to hear. Like, thanks for reminding us that you went to Hawaii and we're stuck here in this humid city of khakis.

47:33Ronnie Karam: Hawaii time. Aloha o 'clock. Am I right? Hi. So she's like, we had so much fun in Hawaii. And T.D. goes, does your butt hurt? She's like, no, I don't do that like you. I don't use my butt. have you been using your butt so they start talking about their butt and tj's like my butt

47:50Ben Mandelker: is buttoned is your is your butthole is it's is your butthole in your butthole i guess that's what mia says so it's uh tj's like yeah so um she's like guys i have some news like oh my god and molly goes are you pregnant and then but like mia literally has like a shot of alcohol

48:10Ronnie Karam: like in her mouth they just took a shot they're like cheers everybody i have news are you pregnant she just took a shot yeah what's wrong with you she's okay guys here's the news troy and i broke up she's got a big smile on her face and they're like what she goes yeah yeah i know i know it happened last night yeah broke up oh my god you're lying he was so hot i'd like to

48:34Ben Mandelker: stare at him wait what happened what's going on she's like yeah it's it's it's over and they're Well, Molly's like, I was expecting her to come back with a ring, not single status on her Hinge profile. Or excuse me, Raya, she would kill me if I said Hinge. So Mia says, you know, on the last night we were sitting down there here basically. And I was like, you know, what's the end game? And he obviously was thinking like about engagement. But I was like, no, first thing first is like coming down here to Charleston and ending the long distance. And basically he just didn't want to come down to Charleston.

49:06Ronnie Karam: Yeah, so I get it. but it's two years and he lived out of town he's like i can't move i have a job

49:12Ben Mandelker: it's like but she's like i also can't move because i'm on a tv show that's in charleston

49:18Ronnie Karam: that's so rough you finally find someone that hot and they can't move i mean both of them both of them found someone so hot and they can't move what's the point even i know i agree i think he

49:29Ben Mandelker: should have moved because you could probably replicate whatever job you're doing in charleston but you can't replicate being on a tv show up in charlotte so not everybody wants that damn mess

49:40Ronnie Karam: obviously he didn't because he skedaddled right out of there he didn't even try he was like bye and then when he was on screen he was like a brett type like hey yeah which was good enough for me that's all i really needed but yeah everybody doesn't need to be on tv he's probably like you need to like if you're really into this move to be with me or is tv more important and she's like yeah it is um have you been featuring a cardboard cut out of me you haven't bye alo alo ho mahalo mahalo bitch is that how you say goodbye i think aloha is hello and goodbye i thought so too i think mahalo i don't know what mahalo is actually is that thank you

50:22Ben Mandelker: it or is it okay i'll look it up mahalo meaning and mahalo means um thank you it's mainly in

50:31Ronnie Karam: hawaii used to express gratitude mahalo mahalo mahalo next so then mia's like um i cried for like three hours on the drive down you guys yeah i cried she smiled she's still got this smile on her face and she's like wow i'm impressed that you cried that's really hard to do when you're sociopath she's like yeah i know and molly says yeah oh my god you got to start something like i mean like even his balls his balls smell bad tell people that like to just make yourself feel better and ruin his reputation and she's like yeah um his balls his balls like like checks mix didn't

51:08Ben Mandelker: she say something like she basically well she's like she's like well the thing is this i'm a really toxic ex so i'm gonna start rumors about him that he has a small dick i'm telling everyone he has shrimp dick and they're like yeah he's got like like say those balls my bad she's like yeah

51:20Ronnie Karam: they smell like check mix gross yeah i've never heard of checks or trail mix yeah do balls smell like i think balls smell like crayons one one guy one time a guy was like you know the thing i don't like about balls not my balls personally but he was like the thing i don't like about balls is that they smell like crayons and i was like that's so stupid and then over the years i'm like balls do kind of smell like crayons. I've never heard Chex Mix.

51:45Ben Mandelker: I haven't heard that either, but I could see that actually. It was like, they alternate between Chex Mix and Trail Mix. So then... Trail Mix? Yeah.

51:55Ronnie Karam: I mean, Chex Mix calls up a smell. Trail Mix doesn't call up a smell.

52:01Ben Mandelker: It can have a smell. It depends. There's a lot of different types of Trail Mix out there too. Like if you have a lot of the pretzels in there, if you have like a... What do you like? Like a sesame... a Sesame Crunch thing going on. So TJ is like, he's like, wait, wait, wait. Would you ever smell Justin's balls? Because he said he has a crush on you. And he has a really cool noon decanter. I don't know who got it for him, but that person's probably pretty cool. Mia's like, wait, why? He has a crush on me? Because Justin's hot. Yeah. Did Molly tell you that she went on a little tequila soiree with Justin, by the way?

52:34Ben Mandelker: Molly, tell him about the soiree.

52:37Ronnie Karam: So then we see a flashback to last week and Justin's like, yeah, Molly, I'm like an onion. Ew. First of all, gross. That means you smell. I mean, I know that's not what I'm in. It means peel back my layers, but it also, that evokes a smell. That's like saying Chex Mix. That evokes a smell, and it's the smell of B.O.

52:55Ben Mandelker: But also, he says, I smell the same, too. So, I know you're trying to be like, I know he wasn't saying he smelled, but it makes me think of him smelling, but then he's like, no, I do smell. He goes, I smell the same, too, but some girls are into that so it works she goes i prefer showers we're in the south yeah she's just grossed out by him

53:13Ronnie Karam: right away and uh he goes okay well i got one back in my apartment she's like so me is like what did you do she goes nothing because he's rendezvousing with my new roommate and then we see jordan

53:26Ben Mandelker: molly's new roommate jordan better not have taken cloris leachman's job that's all i gotta say no

53:32Ronnie Karam: Oh, didn't you see her? She's in this episode. I didn't see Cloris. Yes. She was in the kitchen when maybe we already saw her, but I think she's in the kitchen at some point when Maddie and Emmy are back there, like putting something on a sign.

53:45Ben Mandelker: Oh, I have to go back and look. I must have gotten distracted. So Molly. Of course she does. She's an icon. So Molly says, Justin's banging my roommate, then trying to bang me and now trying to bang Mia. The dude needs a literal lock on his pants. He needs a chastity belt. He got Molly'd.

54:04Ronnie Karam: So TJ's like... Molly's really trying it with the one-liners, but they're not great. They're not great. Molly's confessional one-liners need some work.

54:14Ben Mandelker: By the way, Mia, I almost brought your cutout just next to me. And Mia's like, oh my God, I know, that's hilarious. Because Manny tried to fix your head for you on it. And Molly's like, yeah, she literally was like, boom, boom, boom. Yeah, she stepped all over your cutout, all over your cutout, feet on the cutout. Mia's like, oh my God. I'm going to confront her about that when I go to folly for being disrespectful to my poster.

54:37Ronnie Karam: It was$200. She goes, yeah, that cost money.

54:45Ronnie Karam: So they're like, let's send it to Troy. Why are you guys laughing so hard about poor Troy getting dumped? I love Troy. Troy is so hot and he was nice. He only got dumped because of distance. That's not fair to mock Troy. Troy, get over here. I know you're upset. Come here. Get over here. Get to my post on Ronnie's face. Come here. Get to my buzz on you little. Let's go and level your hair. Can I have some of your hair? Can we get that implanted into my head in Turkey? Okay.

55:11Ben Mandelker: Well, it's a new day at Republic. And so Joe and Leva are sitting down for a chat because Joe wants to talk about business. So he's like, I've busted my ass for the past five years doing the same job. And Maddie's like, do you think you're ready, Joe? Joe, because there's a flashback leading up to it. Do you think you're ready to talk to Leva about it? He's like, yeah, 100%. I need to grow. And I'm sick of just waiting for something to happen Because fuck it, I'll just text Leva What should I say? Ask ChatGPT, okay, ChatGPT says Hey Leva, I hope this message finds you well I hope there are opportunities where our skills and experience Could align to create something Maybe a PowerPoint that shows how I'm such good friends with TJ Wait, what are you talking about?

55:47Ben Mandelker: Sorry, I kind of used it for my own purposes

55:49Ronnie Karam: It could be something Adva, how do you say this? Adva chichis? Adva jijus? Advantageous do you want me to add her on linkedin too like come on i'm just gonna say hey lover can we meet and so they meet so he comes in and love is like how you been joe

56:10Ben Mandelker: no and he's like i've been great you know i'm so grateful to work here i'm like not going anywhere i'm like team republic the other day i die she's like yeah um yeah we know but by the way what didn't joe already get a promotion and then didn't he already lose that promotion in season two, I think. I think at the end of season one, he really wanted to step it up and be a manager. And then season two, he had been demoted back down to door guy, right? Or maybe that was going on from season two to season three. Am I crazy?

56:38Ronnie Karam: I think that was... Did Joan get a... I remember Emmy did. Remember they made Emmy a manager, and then they made her a manager at another place? And she's like, yeah, I'm a Republic girl. I'm not a boots and baubles girl or whatever the fuck that restaurant is. so but yeah maybe they did with joe but i think joe's always been a vip host

56:58Ben Mandelker: basically a lot of these people go up and down because i think emmy yeah emmy was a manager but now she's back down to being normie it's hard to it's hard to track it's a very complicated system they have going on over there so love is like how you been joe and he's like i've been great like you know i'm so grateful to work here and like i'm not going anywhere like i said i'm just gonna repeat myself yes we know joe but also like i'm turning 30 in august and i have to do what's best for me and i want to grow professionally and like i have dreams uh-huh you know like in my mind like i've got mind dreams dreams in my mind like these dreams go on when i close my eyes you know

57:31Ronnie Karam: one of them yeah one of them is like these monkeys like they're on tricycles and they're like going around in a circle and people are like monkeys drive tricycles and i'm like i don't doubt it because it's a dream and you don't doubt stuff in dreams joe could you get to the point

57:48Ben Mandelker: i would like to build my dream concept with my mentors my concept was an upside down piano because it was a dream but um i know that like i can't i cannot only be an employee like but i could be a business partner she's like okay well joe it doesn't really work that way it's like i can't like go to my employer and be like hey i just want growth and i want this but then at the same time i'm like not showing up to work and you've just been slacking and he's just like don't

58:14Ronnie Karam: His big eye, he just blinks his eyes. He's like, ugh. But I still growth. How could you talk to me like that?

58:21Ben Mandelker: Leva's like, every time I'm around Joe, I almost feel like I'm in the Twilight Zone. I'm like, we had this conversation a year ago, and a year ago where Leva was like, hey, if you want to grow this business, you have to be showing up at work. You can't just go on the road with Maddie on her DJ tour.

58:38Ronnie Karam: Yeah, and did he do that? No. He went on tour with Maddie. so like I cannot stop my business because you want to follow your girlfriend around the country so you left with Maddie and he's like yeah but like she's suffering from anxiety and she's like I need you with me and it's not like disrespectful thing you know like I just chose to be by Maddie's side and I missed some shifts so what she's like um yeah but like you're sacrificing stuff Joe and you know you're like in a really good position that could have moved up and you just stopped coming to work and you were like hey whatever I book tables online like

59:13Ben Mandelker: i fucked up i fucked up joe i stopped showing up but then i came back to work and i worked my ass off and i feel like i'm back at square one and like it's not motivating for me like you have to motivate me so that way i could be a better worker so that way you you can go into business with me

59:27Ronnie Karam: you have to motivate me to give me a business you understand hello it's called a paycheck joe

59:33Ben Mandelker: the motivation is for you to get the business not for her to give you motivations that way you show

59:38Ronnie Karam: ups that way then she can give you the business oh joe come on buddy joe joe joe it's like yeah i just don't understand it you know like i don't know if this is arrogant to say but like you need to like feel that respect like reciprocated like i came back to work a week ago and i've been like doing good joe you've been back one week are you acting like i came back full force love is like

1:00:01Ben Mandelker: is joe out of his mind yeah because everyone's like when are they going to give you a place She goes, well, anyone who thinks we're giving anybody anything or not, we're building something with somebody that's that's reliable. Okay. Like you're not reliable. Does he just think I'm going to go? Does he think I'm just going to hand out businesses like Oprah hands out cars? I mean, sure. At one point, Joe was valuable to us. It was always the plan with Lamar and I to have Joe run one of our businesses, but like and have equity in one of them. But like he basically gave us a big fuck you. and joe's like but like can you give me a business though he literally saying like can you he was like can you give me just can you come up with something and give it to me he's just saying

1:00:42Ronnie Karam: every wrong thing in this meeting he's like yeah but that hurts my feelings nobody cares joe you're not showing up to work no it's not about your feelings and it's not about your girlfriend's anxiety like that's crazy i cannot imagine going into work and i'm being like you fucked up me being like but bueller's got anxiety so sorry i feel like i'm nervous i've been the face of your

1:01:05Ben Mandelker: company i've been the pompadour of your company and when i'm here i'm incredible it's i'm hard to replace it's like when i'm here right yeah you know love is like i'm the face of my company

1:01:15Ronnie Karam: yeah she's like i literally have a tv show about my company you dumbass and she goes um joe you You have been replaced, okay? This business doesn't wait for you. You think this bar rots itself? No. There are so many people working to not clean the floors properly in this bar so that it smells like a barn. Do you understand? That doesn't just happen without hard work, Joe. You've been replaced. His name is Justin, okay? He's down there showing girls that he's taking home matches because he wants the female gaze. That is someone making an effort, Joe, okay?

1:01:50Ben Mandelker: Joe, you think you're the only person who can point at a man wearing khaki shorts from Tommy Bahama and say you get in here Uh-uh, no, you think you're the only one who can spot a lady in Talbots and find a table for her? No, many people can do that Joe

1:02:03Ronnie Karam: But the thing that hurts the most is like loyally because like to say like I'm replaceable like that hurts That hurts. It's like making a movie and Brad Pitt doesn't show up to work like You're not going to replace Brad Pitt. Brad Pitt has been replaced It was called The Departed, sir.

1:02:21Ben Mandelker: He will be replaced, actually. That will literally happen. If Brad Pitt does not show up to a movie shoot, they will fire him. Even Brad Pitt.

1:02:31Ronnie Karam: Yes. Wait, Brad Pitt was supposed to be in The Departed?

1:02:34Ben Mandelker: I didn't know that.

1:02:35Ronnie Karam: Yeah, I looked it up. I said, what are some movies that Brad Pitt was replaced in? And that was one. And then he was replaced by Russell Crowe in another one. Gladiator, maybe? No, it wasn't Gladiator.

1:02:46Ben Mandelker: it was like state of play state of play oh that's such a deep cut i remember wow um so deep state of play that was like just prior to gladiator right say what you want about me but i do my research wow instead of play i'm a professional state of not play am i right because he got fired oh my god it feels so good to finally oh that was from 2009 really geez okay well joe is being so stupid right here and it's hilarious and i'm cracking up and i'm loving how leva is just like like what is wrong with you and so uh love is like would you be able to work for the next eight months the next year do thursday friday saturday while maddie's on tour a hundred percent i will go on tour with maddie and check in on a friday afternoon via email a hundred percent a hundred

1:03:38Ronnie Karam: 100 % I will book tables Thursday, Friday, and Saturday online. So, yes. She's like, I'd love for you to prove me wrong, but right now, I don't even know if you will. Oh, really? Then why am I in Ocean's Eleven? You're not Brad Pitt. Joe?

1:03:55Ben Mandelker: Last time I checked, I'm going to the Oscars because I was nominated in F1, Best Picture of the Year. And guess who won? F1. Guess what? And F is me. Joe, you're not even making any sense anymore.

1:04:07Ronnie Karam: I'm going to show you a clip from F1 and prove to you that I was that's an empty car Joe there's no one in the car seat Maddie had a gig so like sorry she had anxiety Joe

1:04:19Ben Mandelker: your race car is just sitting on the track everyone's going by you yeah I couldn't race today because Maddie was performing at Wesleyan so

1:04:27Ronnie Karam: so now we're at Folly Beach 20 minutes away from Charleston I like that they're like 20 minutes away from Charleston okay could you show me the traffic on the way there so I know how long it's going to take me. Are there any alternate routes? What the fuck do I care where it is? What is this, MapQuest? I know. MapQuest. Do you like my MapQuest reference? What is this?

1:04:46Ben Mandelker: What is this? What do you want me to look up? AOL Maps? Well, you want me to look up on Yahoo, this location?

1:04:58Ben Mandelker: Listen here.

1:04:59Ronnie Karam: I'm going to get there. I'm going to find out how busy it is on MSN Traffic.

1:05:05Ben Mandelker: okay well give me a moment to search up this beach on bing and i'll get right back to you

1:05:13Ronnie Karam: 20 minutes away from charleston okay so um gram and mass maislaine of calabria's catering is there i'm glad welcome guys so um julia comes in and brad's there he's like oh my god i don't even want to kiss you look so good yeah so then um he's saying he's so happy it's like the first time he's been in a relationship where there's a future it's going to be super special and they're using his client's house and it's really nice they got a private chef and he got her a mani and a pedi

1:05:45Ben Mandelker: and a new drip all the nice things yeah all the beautiful sex and it's like oh my god is it an amix what oh no you were frozen for a moment there but it looks like looks like it powered

1:06:03Ronnie Karam: through your back now so yeah they're getting botox darling i'm supposed to look this way

1:06:08Ben Mandelker: oh beautiful and can you hear me yeah i can hear you can hear me can you see me oh can you see are you throwing your voice into the microphone yeah i was freezing so what were you mentioning

1:06:21Ronnie Karam: that they're saying at this house yeah she gets him a gift and it's a card and he's like oh my god is she getting me an amex and it's not it's uh like a gold card and it's got his father's

1:06:33Ben Mandelker: handwriting on it and it's really lovely yeah it is what a good gift i know like that's kind of like an amazing gift i don't know how she even thought about that i didn't know that was that existed so um it's a nice moment and he's really touched by it and he was just happy that they could do something um before everyone gets here and um you know we did find out that um he does he did invite emmy and we see a flashback he's like well i invited everyone else out to folly and i wanted to extend an invite to you as well and i don't want you to think that's going to be some kind of ambush so i do want to talk to you and then we'll ambush you okay does that sound good to you she's like um i will definitely be there i will make all the beds and but out of shark would reach

1:07:11Ronnie Karam: to try yes so he's like you know if everyone else is going to be solving their issues you know there's going to be a massive elephant in the room if i don't invite emmy so you know julia made me see it that way so i'm gonna do it and julia's like yeah that unsafe comment that's stuck with me and i think it's time for emmy to say sorry so let's do it and she said he says well i think she wants an apology from me and she's like absolutely not okay tomorrow will no longer

1:07:40Ben Mandelker: be our one year if you apologize to emmy so now uh everyone's time to go out to folly okay let's get the folly time everyone's getting the car uh tj gets to go in the front seat because he's hung over and michaels holds up a banana and pretends to hold up justin he's like put your hands up just like oh my god feel like it is they're driving off there's another car with maddie lake emmy and joe and um emmy's like uh like oh my oh my god i forgot my good camera that's but that's because i don't think about taking pictures when i'm going to war and it's like yeah i don't love that he

1:08:16Ronnie Karam: waited until last minute to invite me but like i'm not gonna like being the person who says no when like someone gives me an invitation i mean that being said like being in a social setting with these people like yeah i'm on edge i'm on edge i'm on edge we know yeah we know i mean

1:08:30Ben Mandelker: you're always on edge crackhead so um emmy is like an adorable lizard she doesn't look like a lizard but the way lizards are always like oh my god like lizards always have that vibe like yes and then they just scamper away that's what i'm here in texas i know it's um i know that spring

1:08:51Ronnie Karam: is coming because i opened the door to go outside and there's always a lizard that's been sitting there or something that i haven't seen that's like i'm going to work look at me it's like every time you open the front door no no what the hell why are you sitting on the front door

1:09:08Ben Mandelker: a stab you know this is gonna happen um so they are people arrive that we see a succession of people arriving at the table at the house uh grace lily shows up at the whole both cars show up um and uh mia is there and everything and mia's like like hugs justin and he's asking how why it was there's just like a lot of sort of patter as more and more people arrive and emmy's saying i won't let these i won't let these people get under my skin joe go and it's raining come on i'm We're going to do it. We're going to do it. We're going to war.

1:09:40Ronnie Karam: So, Maddie comes over. She sees me and she goes, oh my god, hi Mia. And she hugs her. And Mia's like, okay, so you're not going to step on me today? And Maddie's just like, ugh.

1:09:52Ben Mandelker: Mia's like, I missed the first episode, so I'm going to have a cardboard fight.

1:09:56Ronnie Karam: How dare you assault my cardboard cutout? I mean, for real? What the fuck? TJ paid a lot of money for that fucking cutout to represent me in his thing, his wiener thing. And that, You doing that was really disrespectful. It was disrespectful to me. It was disrespectful to TJ. It was disrespectful to Wieners. It was disrespectful to FedEx. It was disrespectful to Slash Kinkos.

1:10:21Ben Mandelker: So Mia's like, I was on the fucking beach chilling. And then they're like Maddie just, they say that Maddie just like pushed her down and stepped all over it. I mean, that's disrespectful where I come from. Everyone knows. Step on me, that's a problem. Step on my Sandy, that's an even bigger problem. And she's like, whatever. It probably costs like$3. Like, calm the fuck down. Which I know that if we're the other way around, Maddie would be losing her mind, too. Because of last year when she and Joe put together a bouquet. And then it flew off into the sky. And she's like, Joe!

1:10:50Ronnie Karam: That was like$45. Joe! It wasn't$3. It was$200. And I also had to get another$200 one made of my boyfriend. so that my other cardboard cutout could break up with the cardboard cutout of my boyfriend. And unfortunately, I had to dump a guy with a footprint on my face. Maddie.

1:11:14Ben Mandelker: Wow, okay, whatever. It's okay, it's fine. She's like, just don't be pushing down posters with me and walking over me. That means something to me. She goes, girl, it's a cardboard cutout. I didn't actually punch you in the face. Just don't resort to that. Don't play like that.

1:11:27Ronnie Karam: But I just feel like I was really hurt about you and TJ and Brad. knowing all that stuff and never telling me. She goes, I wasn't even in the group chat, Maddie. I was not in the group chat. She goes, uh-huh, you were. Emmy showed it to me. She's like, I was not in the group chat, Maddie. Okay, I swear to God. I swear on my mother. I don't even know. And she goes, yes, you were liking things. You were in the chat about the Trevor and the Sammy shit. She's like, no, I wasn't. The first time I heard about that was the same year that you heard about it at the reunion. I mean, please let it go. I mean, I cannot believe.

1:11:59Ronnie Karam: I swear on everything I know. And then it shows her in the confessional and she's looking at her phone. She goes, yeah, I'm in the group chat. I am. Yeah, I don't remember this. I'm sure I didn't say anything. And she's looking through it. She's like, oh, yeah, I did like that. Oh, yeah, LOL. Yeah, I don't remember this.

1:12:21Ben Mandelker: I don't remember it. But if I did, I probably would have liked it at the time.

1:12:24Ronnie Karam: How do you not remember it? How do you not remember being in a group chat where everybody's talking about getting on camera that Maddie's boyfriend cheated on her when she didn't?

1:12:33Ben Mandelker: Here's how. Because I have been added into random group chats that are really annoying, and I just don't pay any attention to them. And they just go and go and go. And then once in a while, I'll open it up, and I'll just sort of see the latest comments. I'm like, huh. And I'll like the comments to be a good participant, and then I go back to ignoring it. So I 100 % know how she was in a group chat and was not paying attention whatsoever. I've been there.

1:12:57Ronnie Karam: yeah um that's a pretty big one though so she's like yeah you know i was just hurt okay so um and you know like then you're gonna be their henchman and it's hard not to put you in that box and she's like henchman girl she's yeah because like tj and brad they're your friends and you defend them instead of the women she's like oh and brad's like um would anyone like gift bags and she's like um i am team woman how dare you maddie okay but we have gift bags over here maddie's like that's what i thought because then when emmy showed me your name was on there and i was like oh my god women supporting women where'd that go i'm telling you i wasn't on it i

1:13:36Ben Mandelker: would not lie to you okay one thing i don't do is that which is funny because the group text if you were a participant of the group text that meant that you were actively lying to her the whole time so like it would actually be very conceivable that you would lie about being in the group text because the group text in itself was about perpetuating a lie but in this case it seems like she had genuinely somehow forgotten and she's like i wouldn't have done that i wouldn't have done that so then she realizes that she was in this group text and she's like well so funny because the way

1:13:59Ronnie Karam: she realizes they make it look like because emmy goes um mia's in the group chat okay like she totally is in the group chat i mean i literally still have the group chat and they make it look like emmy texts mia from the group chat because mia's phone dings and she's like oh my god i'm in

1:14:16Ben Mandelker: the group chat yeah so maddie they decide basically to squash it and she's and maddie's like well i'm sorry at the sir wieners party that it felt like i had a lot of ptsd and like a lot of old feelings came up and i'm sorry that i stomped on your face my cardboard face yes your cardboard face which is the same as my real face well like that's kind of what i just said but like you have to honor the cardboard but also acknowledge it's my face you stepped on you stepped on my face you're stepping

1:14:38Ronnie Karam: on it right now don't abuse my cardboard okay i was like a voodoo doll i felt hit when i was in hawaii i was like ow so brad is like aloha are we better look at oh look at your goodie bag i'm

1:14:53Ben Mandelker: really just trying to push the goodie bag thing look guys i'm grown up i made goodie bags and he was like yeah we squashed it um and can that be the theme of the night tonight squashing it because that'd be really nice yeah squash that beef squash that beef squash that beef i love maddie doing bravo con a chance so then 30 minutes later cut to brad and emmy brad confronting emmy and saying why did you say that i made you feel unsafe just i was scared i was scared i was scared you were scared of bradley bradley carter i was scared i was scared and emmy just like having a classic hyperventilating meltdown in the middle of folly freaking out hyperventilating of course leaving

1:15:29Ronnie Karam: and she goes outside she's like i feel unsafe it's like oh emmy girl classic emmy classic well

1:15:40Ben Mandelker: What a show. What a show. Episode two.

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