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Watch What Crappens

13 Mar 2026 · 58m · 28 chapters

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#3259 RHOBH S15E13 Part One: Madame Butterfly AF

In short

"Watch What Crappens" is a podcast that humorously critiques the reality television network Bravo, focusing particularly on shows such as "Real Housewives" and "Below Deck." The hosts, Ben Mandelker and Ronnie Karam, offer a mix of praise, ridicule, and insightful commentary on the episodes.

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Chapters

1:40

Anticipation for Real Housewives Recap

Hosts discuss their excitement for the latest episode of RHOBH.

“It's actually, it's going to be pretty intense because I'm taking a flight.”
3:01

Discussion on RHOBH Episode Structure

Hosts analyze the pacing and content of the current RHOBH episode.

“In the meantime, today we have Real Housewives of Boobily Hoos.”
4:49

Arrival in Florence and Initial Reactions

The hosts describe the glamorous setting and the characters' arrivals.

“And, you know, airing the same night as Ladies of London, which is just kind of like crackling with amazing energy and wonderful comedy.”
6:15

Exploring the Villa and Characters' Interactions

The hosts dive into the characters' experiences at the Italian villa.

“I was just shopping downstairs in the foyer.”
7:41

Dorit's Comedic Reactions and Character Dynamics

The hosts discuss Dorit's humorous moments and character dynamics.

“Tomato, tomato, potato, potato Let's call the whole thing Off Questa vacancia In Italia That means in Italian.”
10:34

Jennifer's Thirst Trap Plans and Final Arrivals

The hosts talk about Jennifer's thirst trap ideas and the final arrivals.

“I feel like I've already been betrayed by the doorman.”
14:02

Thirst Traps and Expectations

The hosts discuss thirst traps and their experiences of feeling hidden in water.

“Yes, and everything else under the water.”
15:14

Unexpected Chapel Surprise

Jennifer reveals a surprising feature in her room, an indoor chapel, leading to humorous reflections.

“Ronnie, there are some moments when I crave a little treat.”
19:39

Fashion and Glam Preparations

Guests prepare for the evening, showcasing their outfits and discussing their fashion styles.

“So Bozen Sutton have a seat and Sutton just has a blouse, you know, like a white button down shirt type thing and some diamonds.”
23:03

Matchy-Matchy Moments

Rachel Zoe realizes she's wearing matching outfits with Amanda, leading to fashion quips.

“Is it me or neither of them were wearing midriffs?”
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25:47

Dorit's Tardiness and Dinner Plans

The group discusses Dorit's lateness as they prepare for a surprise dinner.

“I call this accidental fashion, which is like when you put something on because you're not like paying attention.”
28:00

Dorit's Tardiness and Erica's Surprise

The group discusses Dorit's lateness and Erica reveals a surprise related to the villa.

“So that's why Erica goes up to find her.”
29:48

The Grand Theater Surprise

The villa features a theater, sparking excitement and humorous commentary from the group.

“And I was like, this does not look right.”
31:29

Opera Performance Reactions

The group's varied reactions during the opera performance and their behaviors are highlighted.

“Erica will never shut up if someone actually talented is singing.”
39:04

Dinner Conversations and Dynamics

Amanda attempts to talk to Dorit amidst dinner interactions and group dynamics.

“Everybody, spoiler alert for those of you who haven't seen it, everybody applauds.”
42:00

Dinner Challenges in Heels

The cast struggles with dinner logistics in heels while discussing their food preferences.

“I've got tiny, tiny ankles, bird ankles.”
43:00

Dorit and PK's Dinner Date

Discussion about Dorit's recent dinner with PK and the implications for her relationships.

“Honestly, I feel so much happier when I'm in Europe.”
44:10

Erica's Outrage and Relationship Dynamics

Erica expresses her feelings about Dorit's choices and her own dating life, revealing tensions.

“And Erica's like, well, you should have told me you went to dinner with him.”
45:50

Dorit's Hypocrisy Exposed

The group confronts Dorit about her behavior and the perceived hypocrisy regarding her situation.

“I'm the only one who's supposed to have a Shrek in my life.”
47:30

Heather Dubrow's Mental Health Advice

Discussion on whether Heather Dubrow should join the cast and her expertise in mental health issues.

“If it's a step in Europe, it's measured differently than it is in America.”
49:10

Amanda's Perspective on Dorit's Situation

Amanda shares her insights on Dorit's public comments about her divorce and potential consequences.

“That's Heather Dubrow's bread and butter right there.”
50:50

The Debate Over Opinions

Conflict arises over whether it's appropriate to voice opinions about Dorit's situation, highlighting group dynamics.

“Anybody would say it's probably not a good idea if you're going through a public divorce.”
52:30

Amanda vs. Dorit: A Heated Exchange

Amanda and Dorit debate the appropriateness of expressing opinions in their group, leading to tension.

“And remember that I'm a woman going through this right now.”
54:10

Conclusions on Group Dynamics

The group members reflect on the complexities of their relationships and opinions about each other.

“I'm going to weigh in so that way I present as one of Amanda's allies, even though I was talking shit about her behind her back just before.”
56:03

Sutton's Argument and Authenticity

Exploring Sutton's feelings about authenticity in her interactions.

57:20

Dorit's Trust Issues with Amanda

Dorit expresses her trust issues regarding Amanda's opinions.

“And the slipperiness feels like duplicity.”
58:26

Dinner Table Dynamics and Therapy

Discussion on the appropriateness of therapy discussions among friends.

“Guys, but what about the fact that this is an informed opinion?”
59:33

Social Media and Search Results

Amanda reflects on her online presence and visibility.

“cold the other night at dinner was it your intention by going back 357 blog posts to a post i wrote 14 years ago i like kathy goes well if i was annoyed with someone i'd do a deep dive Yeah, for sure.”
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1:04Ben Mandelker: Watch What Crappens

1:32Ben Mandelker: hello ron doozle how are you god are you ready to come to texas i'm so excited i'm excited for the south by southwest we have we have a so many fun things that we're already going to it's gonna be great are you excited to have to leave the house for three four days in a row so i'm feeling

1:52Ronnie Karam: apprehensive but excited wait wait were you apprehensive of me staying at your house no no Oh, me leaving four days in a row, leaving the house four days in a row. That's very unlike me. It's a lot.

2:05Ben Mandelker: It's actually, it's going to be pretty intense because I'm taking a flight. I'm waking up at 430 in the morning. I'm taking a flight tomorrow morning to Texas because there's like no easy way to get to Texas. So I'm waking up at the butt crack of dawn to go down to South by Southwest to reunite with you. And then we are going to be going to so many things over the next three days. and it's going to be it is going to be from newark should have what you say we should have talked about this there's a non-stop from newark i think the timing didn't work out because i think it was like it would get me in late or i don't know whatever it was i for sure this was not the this was not the flight that i wanted like the timing window that i wanted to take a 6 a.m flight but sometimes you just have to do what you have to do to get there in time yes you guys you guys

2:56Ronnie Karam: You got to do what you got to do. It's going to be a fun time, okay? So we're excited. The iHeart Awards are on Monday. So we're super excited. In the meantime, today we have Real Housewives of Boobily Hoos. If you want this on video or you want bonus recaps or you want ad-free listening or Discord server fun times or the free newsletter, go sign up at patreon.com slash waltwaltcroppings. croppens but now it's time for real housewives of beverly hills season 15 episode 13 read the room mm-hmm kathy hilton sometimes you need to learn to read a room um aren't you the one who or was in that homeless not toothless thing being like so two teeth and homes is that what this is Catalyst but fruitless What is this?

3:52Ronnie Karam: Kathy telling anyone to read a room

3:53Ben Mandelker: Well, we were giving people rooms to be read That's all

3:59Ronnie Karam: Ah, Kathy Alright, so here we are We're in Florence It's very glamorous

4:06Ben Mandelker: Yeah, it's gorgeous Beautiful Florence And for people watching at home This commences the first of 11 minutes of people milling about and arriving in the living room on this episode. I did time it. I did time that it was 11 minutes of people just slowly gathering downstairs. Yes.

4:31Ronnie Karam: Real housewives of saying hello in the foyer.

4:34Ben Mandelker: It really, it's, you know, I enjoyed this show because we always hop on the mics and we have so much fun making fun of it, even on a slow episode. Like it's actually the slower the episode, the more fun we seem to have with it. But I have to acknowledge as a viewing experience, Beverly Hills is not in a great place, despite some signs of life earlier. And, you know, airing the same night as Ladies of London, which is just kind of like crackling with amazing energy and wonderful comedy. It's a bit hard. It's a bit hard to dive into these long, slow burns of people arriving. However, it's still very funny for us as podcasters because we get to sit here and make fun of all these stupid little things that they do.

5:22Ben Mandelker: But we start with Bose. She's in a robe and she wants to get a massage. I need a massage. Yes, a massage. First, I need to shower and then I'll have a massage because I've been traveling since yesterday. So that's the update on her logistics for the afternoon. And then we go to Sutton as she is rolling luggage into Kyle's room because I guess there was an issue and people didn't get their luggage in time. And they are dealing with this crisis. Yeah.

5:52Ronnie Karam: They're tracking my luggage, but they don't even know where it is. I called for the luggage and it said, you're a loser and a spinster. I said, mother, what are you doing answering the phone for American Airlines? I dialed wrong. It was my bad. Kyle's like, all my bags are here. Is my brown bag here? And my Louis Vuitton carry-on? This bigger than everyone else's Louis Vuitton carry-on? And Sedan's like, I don't know. What?

6:16Ben Mandelker: I love to shop. Go on.

6:18Ronnie Karam: I can shop anywhere. I was just shopping downstairs in the foyer. I can shop anywhere. Well, then a car comes, and it's Dorit, Rachel, and Ilka. And they're on their way. And Dorit's like, grazie, grazie. Guys, guys, to be able to stay in a villa in Florence. Delicioso. Delicious tortilla. Tortilla Escobedo.

6:47Ben Mandelker: I die for a villa. Like, I've only ever stayed in hotels. Like, the other day I was telling Xander, I was like, Xan, do you ever stay in a hotel in Italy? And he's like, yeah. And I was like, me too. Like, I die. I die for a European hotel.

7:05Ronnie Karam: I was telling my son the other day, if you stayed in a villa, it would be amazing. But if you stayed in a villa with your dad, would you want to burn it down?

7:13Ben Mandelker: Just tell me the truth. If your dad takes you to a villa and she's there, you have every right to just run away from the villa and join a new Italian family. You have every right to do that. Cassius Cassius

7:28Ronnie Karam: So Dorit is Speaking in Italian And I wish I knew Italian Just so I could know how bad she is at it Because I have a feeling it's not great But she's like Eccucosa vorini Pastellini Tomato, tomato, potato, potato Let's call the whole thing Off

7:49Ben Mandelker: Questa vacancia In Italia

7:58Ronnie Karam: That means in Italian. So the translation is, the things I want to do on this Italian holiday, dot, dot, dot. I want to eat delicious Italian food. I do want to do some shopping. And I really want to have fun. Do you understand me? Quello!

8:18Ben Mandelker: And then we are seeing all this beautiful villa as they arrive and the men in seats greet Dorit and Rachel and Erica and they're like, welcome to Tuscany. And they're like, so they enter and Erica's like, I'm obsessed. I'm home. I'm home. Oh my god, this is like movie shit. Like shit you see in the movies. Like, not real life, you know? And Eric, I mean, Dorit's just wandering around and they're like, she's doing that thing where her soul is just like constantly escaping her body at all times and then so good to re-walking into this villa

9:03Ronnie Karam: it's like falling on the ground it's like the grudge meets high fashion it's like a jurassic park uh dinosaur getting stuck like getting his foot stuck in an elevator or something. I was just trying to get Jeff Goldblum. Okay, I have to tell you something. I don't know if you hear the brrr outside, but of course we start recording and that's when people come to do the lawn or whatever. So I'm like, what is going on down there? It's louder than usual. The guy, I guess somebody quit the staff of this lawnmower guy and he has made his wife come and she is not happy about it. She is down there trying to work a lawnmower and she is pissed.

9:45Ronnie Karam: and he's like, this is how you do it. And she's like trying to move it. And he's like, he's like slapping her on the butt. She's like slapping behind her. That's the best marriage I've ever seen. If you do that for your husband, that is true love right there. Should I take off my clothes and just stand at the window? Yes.

10:04Ben Mandelker: So they're wandering around. Gosh, she hates that. I'm not going to look out there anymore. No, no. I'm watching you watch them in such joy. It's so funny. It's more entertaining than Beverly Hills. So, yeah, they're walking around and Erica says something like, I want to move here. And Rachel says for the first of about ten times this episode, we live here now. Like, we live here. We live here now. We live here in Europe. We live here. We live here. Oh, my God. Live here.

10:32Ronnie Karam: I love it. Obsessed. We live here. I feel like I've already been betrayed by the doorman. It's like crazy. It's insane.

10:41Ben Mandelker: I'm going to teach this villa how to moisturize.

10:43Ronnie Karam: We live here. This is the movie shit. Like shit you see in the movie. Yeah, we know what movie shit. We know what you mean, Erica. Erica's trying to explain. So Stefano comes in and he's showing Rachel her master suite. And he's like, the master, the Medici. It's like, ooh, stunning. Stunning. Ooh, the Medici. The fuck is that? The fuck is the Medici?

11:08Ben Mandelker: Medici. Medici. Medici.

11:11Ronnie Karam: Medici. Just going to keep saying Medici.

11:15Ben Mandelker: That's Caius' cousin Does this mean there's like a doctor in here? Because it says Medi-Chi Stefano's like

11:22Ronnie Karam: Medici Medici No, that's if Cai goes to Sorry, doctor school He's going to be at Medi-Chi

11:32Ben Mandelker: So Rachel's like, no offense to Sutton Like, no offense to Sedona But Bose should be like nominated for president Like, this is like out of a romance film Like, Sophia Loren should be like in one of these rooms, like wearing some beautiful gown, like seriously, like I die. Like it's bananas. Like I can't, I'm like, yeah, but are there kaleidoscopes? Because sorry, Sedona's got to be there, Tuscany.

11:58Ronnie Karam: Yeah. So Dorit goes in to see her room and she's like,

12:07Ronnie Karam: falling all over the ground and stuff.

12:09Ben Mandelker: I believe this was the sound that we all heard.

12:12Ronnie Karam: Your personal private sauna.

12:15Ben Mandelker: Oh my God.

12:25Ben Mandelker: I just love how long it went. Because she collapses on the floor. She's like, oh God. And then you think it's over. She's like, oh. And then she starts speaking like a tongues, but like in Italian. And she's like,

12:48Ronnie Karam: I've never seen anybody find on the floor over a sauna before, but okay.

12:56Ben Mandelker: Erica's room is nice. This feels very special. And now we have our third car arriving and it's Kathy and Jennifer. And Jennifer has an announcement.

13:10Ronnie Karam: I just like to do thirst traps on all of my trips. So I plan on doing a thirst trap photo shoot in a pool.

13:19Ben Mandelker: Like, take your clothes off?

13:22Ronnie Karam: Yes, naked. Totally naked. When I'm on vacation, I like to do thirst trap photos. My body has a lot of wibbly wobbly parts, so I always try to be submerged in water. Water is very forgiving.

13:43Ben Mandelker: Kathy's like, okay, oh wow, look at these hedges, charming. Jennifer's like, oh look, it's like downtown Abbey. So yes, Jennifer is planning to do her thirst traps, which I love. I love that she's going to do a thirst trap, but it's like a very, very modest thirst trap of showing collarbone only.

14:04Ronnie Karam: Yes, and everything else

14:05Ben Mandelker: under the water.

14:07Ronnie Karam: That's how I am too. When I go in pools, I won't get out because I feel like I'm being hidden. My friends are like, Ronnie, water is clear. We can see you.

14:16Ben Mandelker: Is this water slumming? So, yeah, they all arrive and they take like a glass elevator upstairs. And Jennifer's like very, very impressed by the whole ordeal.

14:29Ronnie Karam: Yeah. So she sees the guys, the staff, and she's like, wow, maybe I could get one of these guys into my thirst trap photo. I have a boyfriend. I shouldn't say that. It's Chucky. It's just a little Chucky. He's like,

14:47Ben Mandelker: do you guys have a fan for me? He's like, a fan? You know, I like the sound. He's like, oh, yes, yes, yes. Of course, of course. You know, yes, absolutely. You know, there was probably like 30 people who went running into the Tuscan countryside, knocking on every house to be like, you have a fan. Do you have a fan? Rich lady needs a fan, please.

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18:12Ronnie Karam: So Jennifer has a small room, but it has a special feature. Are you ready for the surprise? and he opens the door and there's a balcony overlooking an indoor chapel that was a surprise

18:25Ben Mandelker: i have to say i was expecting something along the lines of another sauna or maybe a really nice hot tub i was not expecting a chapel and let alone not only just a chapel a chapel that you actually descend into like you open the door and you're at the top of the chapel looking down into it

18:40Ronnie Karam: that was a surprise yeah um i don't i don't know that i want to sleep in a chapel i don't know what so she's like well I can feel that there are ghosts here thank god I brought ghost repellent though Kathy will take it

19:00Ben Mandelker: well ghost you have to read the room and know your place which is the afterlife and not in this room so now people are getting ready for the evening

19:10Ronnie Karam: and Erica's getting her glam and lies there she's like oh my god was Dorit busting out her Italian And she's like, oh, yeah, she made friends with the neighbors already. She's already accosted an older couple with her Italian.

19:22Ben Mandelker: I'm sure she has.

19:27Ronnie Karam: Ciao, Bella. How have you dared she? Surely you've heard of Bucca di Pippo.

19:37Ben Mandelker: Oh, yes. Have you been to the Capri room in Bucca di Pippo in Encino, Californiano?

19:42Ronnie Karam: no so rachel calls dorit um and then she calls kai kai and uh kai is playing chess and he and skylar aren't interested in talking to rachel he's like i'm busy she's like do you want to talk to me no okay well take the queen on your board and just tip it over because i'm dead uh so jennifer's room uh she's getting her glam and she's like i want to look very italian for our first night i want to look like if an italian were playing clue and mrs peacock was invited to a dinner where she was about to be blackmailed i want to be mrs peacock if she actually had a real peacock

20:27Ben Mandelker: on her head yeah so she has this enormous fluffy hat with feathers and all sorts of stuff you just sort of see it on the sofa and um we can already imagine it's gonna be quite the look um and then

20:42Ronnie Karam: this is some rich people so this shit only rich people get away with so you look crazy it looks like literally crazy and rich people like oh my god amazing you look like you're cleaning a clown's

20:55Ben Mandelker: like air ducts but also like you know it's rich people shit because that hat probably requires its own bag it's its own oh yeah like piece of you know a weight luggage yeah it's enormous and fluffy and that's not something you're going to squish down right so then in the common area amanda and natalie god guys i've been waiting all episode to hear what natalie has to say but amanda and natalie arrive and they make small talk um about who knows what obviously it was not very important but it's just like hi well Amanda by the way you know I can't stand I hate the way Amanda says hello have you heard the way she does her sing-song hello she's like a slow-motion donkey trying to make it special every time you see her like her words are going down a slide or skiing down a slope.

22:04Ronnie Karam: So Bozen Sutton have a seat and Sutton just has a blouse, you know, like a white button down shirt type thing and some diamonds. And everybody loves this is the best outfit Sutton's ever worn. Everybody's like, Oh God, Sutton. Yeah, great. Simple.

22:20Ben Mandelker: You know, she's like, well, it was in my carry on because my luggage is still in Germany. I guess they were trying to match it with a Sutton Strack, but they didn't realize I'm Sutton Brown now, so they sent it to Germany and got very confused.

22:33Ronnie Karam: Turns out Browns get a lot less respect than Stracks. Kyle's like, oh my god, you're like that already? I need a steamer and some clue.

22:45Ben Mandelker: Well, we're about to have cocktails and chill out. Oh my god, so by the way, Bo's, I'm sorry to Sutton, how's your roommate? You want to talk shit about your roommate before I pretend to be her ally? and Bo's like oh yeah your roommate what's all up what's up with that yeah I need to understand because like um how you were in Sedona now and you're like I'll move with this Amanda no problem like what was that about that's crazy I love the shop maybe Sutton is actually planning to take

23:12Ronnie Karam: down Amanda in her sleep so Kyle's like I mean Sutton is literally doing the most I mean she went on her way to be nice out of her way to be nice because things were uncomfortable but you know do you have to go to this extreme sudden a sleeping in twin beds with amanda why does kyle

23:29Ben Mandelker: have an issue with it is otherwise it would have been you kyle who'd been stuck with amanda because

23:33Ronnie Karam: you're the only one who likes her no i think it would be the two noobs it would be amanda and um natalie nat yeah i can't even remember her name natalie yeah i'm not sure natalie even has a room

23:45Ben Mandelker: i think they just like they just found a cop for her and put her in the kitchen

23:49Ronnie Karam: for natalie so kyle's like amanda better not leave her drink unattended you mean our oat milk so now we go to the common area and natalie is like wow you know what i'm new to the midriff game you know what it's like having twins your stomach is never quite the same and amanda's like this is my reintroduction to the midriff right here that's not a what are you talking about?

24:16Ben Mandelker: Is it me or neither of them were wearing midriffs? I'm so confused. Did the terminology change? Does midriff just mean like maybe like in fashion when you say it when they're talking about midriff it doesn't mean expose midriff it just means like a dress that hugs the midriff because I was like I don't see any midriffs.

24:33Ronnie Karam: Yeah because Amanda Wood's wearing a midriff but she had it all the way pulled up which I guess that's a way I mean what do I know I don't know how you wear that shit but I thought like you I was like is that a midriff?

24:43Ben Mandelker: I know I was

24:43Ronnie Karam: like what is happening here so we're muffin muffin top drifts where things just go i like my pants to be below my muffin top and my shirt to begin above my muffin top so rachel has a living

24:55Ben Mandelker: nightmare which is that she arrives and realizes there's no one to talk to except amanda and natalie and even worse she and amanda are actually matching which means that rachel zo So Rachel Zoe and Amanda are fashionably aligned, and you know that was a hard pill for Rachel to swallow.

25:16Ronnie Karam: Yes. They're both in there like, what, Dolce? Rachel's like, oh my god, we match in Dolce. Oh god.

25:24Ben Mandelker: I love our colors together. We should take a photo of us. Rachel's like, um, that's not my brand. I'm not gonna take a photo with you, you know, twinning.

25:32Ronnie Karam: You know me. I don't pack with a strategy. It's like totally whatever happens, happens. It's like Dolce fate. I leave my fate in Dolce's hands.

25:41Ben Mandelker: So I like that this was Rachel's way of differentiating. She's like, yeah, you put a lot of time to look like this. And I just like threw this in here and hope for the best.

25:48Ronnie Karam: Yeah, you're wearing Dolce. I'm wearing effortless Dolce.

25:53Ben Mandelker: Similar, but not the same. I call this accidental fashion, which is like when you put something on because you're not like paying attention. And then you realize, oops, I accidentally match with the worst person in the room.

26:05Ronnie Karam: and natalie's like wow you didn't fuck around with jewelry did you um and she's showing her designer bracelets rachel and she's like oh my god these are dior from literally like a lifetime ago so many dead people since between these came out like so many generations have passed

26:22Ben Mandelker: it's amazing yeah tuts diors vintage dior so jennifer comes out with her giant hat how everyone is all touching about it out and rachel's like jennifer tilly is my hero like she lives here now we live here together like we're living together here now she has an art form when she commits she is committed in the chicest chicest non-amanda way

26:52Ronnie Karam: um so everyone does a fashion show for each other shows off their great outfits to eat dinner at home. And Erica's like, well, I'm so impressed with all of us. Personally, I didn't have anything to wear so I just skinned Laya. She actually fits kind of well.

27:09Ben Mandelker: Just like a Laya head dangling on behind her. I'm curious to know what Rachel thinks about twinning with Amanda in his Dolce print dress. She probably burned it.

27:21Ronnie Karam: So guess what? Dorit is missing because Dorit's ass is always late. So Erica goes to find her. And Dorit's like, I'm almost witty. Excuse me, I have an old couple up here. I'm trying to explain lemon chicken pesta.

27:37Ben Mandelker: Hold on one second. I need to say something to them. Lemoncello. Lemoncello. Danita V2.

27:46Ronnie Karam: Danita V2.

27:48Ben Mandelker: Short the man from Life is a Beautiful, Roberto Beninia.

27:55Ronnie Karam: So, Kyle.

27:56Ben Mandelker: The other thing is that Bose has a surprise lined up, and they're all ready for it, but Dorit is not there. So that's why Erica goes up to find her. And Kyle, of course, sees this as prime example of Dorit going cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs. She's like, Dorit seems to be increasingly late to everything wherever we go. She's in her own time zone. I'm like, it's been five minutes. This has not been 90 minutes of you guys waiting for her to come downstairs. No, Dorit's the worst. She is late, but I'm saying Kyle's making it sound like she is more late than usual.

28:29Ronnie Karam: She's like, well, you know, I know we got rid of lobotomies for women in the 60s, but might want to rethink it. Dorit's late again. So we go to Dorit's room and Erica comes up and is like, hey, Buzz has a surprise. Everyone's waiting for you. Come on. She's like, come on, may we? That's Italiano.

28:50Ben Mandelker: So Jennifer asks Amanda if She's talked to Dorit since the Hamptons She's like I have not You know talking to Dorit Feels like torture but In my experience because I have an informed Opinion on this when you get to the Heart of a person you can hear each Other so I'm going to try one more Time to clear this fucking up

29:14Ronnie Karam: Erica I'm literally getting My luggage it was in Kitty's room She's like, oh, well, who cares? You know, we need to go have a good time with the people, Dorit. Jesus Christ, it's not about you and your fucking dress. But I do have to bring a bag. Did you take my ring? She's like, absolutely not. What are you, a bird victim or an orphan? Well, I meant take them for me. I didn't accuse you of stealing them. Jeez, you're a girl.

29:36Ben Mandelker: Dorit also has, like, did you notice this? Her lip, like the color that her team put on her lip sort of made it look like she'd just been guzzling red wine. It was like, I think they were trying to go for like a dark tone or whatever, but it just looked like she'd stuck her face into a goblet. And I was like, this does not look right. It had this sort of like purpley smudgy look to it. I could not stop looking at it the entire episode or at least this scene, I should say.

30:01Ronnie Karam: Maybe that'll come in fashion like that. This one little thin line of red you get when you're drinking wine, you know, that crusty red.

30:07Ben Mandelker: Yeah. It was just like she had that look, you know, you know, when people drink red wine, it also makes their teeth look like they're spaced apart a little bit. But it's like the red wine shades the insides of the TV. Yes, like that lady on Ladies of London, Kimmy. Yeah. So she just sort of looked a little bit like a wino in that moment. And I was like, I don't think this is what she was going for, but I'm going to support it.

30:28Ronnie Karam: Well, are we ready for the grand surprise? And the grand surprise is the theater. Everybody, there's a built-in theater there, but it doesn't have a TV. As Erica says, oh, my God, to me, this is the ultimate thing to have in a villa, a theater. And not like a, oh, little pussy theater. Let's go watch a movie about the pussy theater. No, bitch. We're going to put on shows in the theater. We're going to have opera singers in the theater. I can't wait to heckle these motherfuckers.

30:55Ben Mandelker: This is what does Erica care about having, you know, live classical theater in her house?

31:01Ronnie Karam: She is an artist, man. She was on Broadway.

31:04Ben Mandelker: She is not waltzing around trying to sing Gilbert and Sullivan, you know. So then we hear this history of the theater that goes back to the 1700s. And the lights go out. And then a pianist is up there. An opera singer comes out. He starts to sing. And one thing he does is he mimes taking a swig from a bottle.

31:26Ronnie Karam: And Erica goes, oh, I do that too.

31:28Ben Mandelker: I'm like, quiet down, front row.

31:30Ronnie Karam: It's Erica. Erica will never shut up if someone actually talented is singing. Remember? She did it with Diana's husband, too, when he was up there singing. Oh, holy night. Fucking Erica. I'm glad she didn't at least sing the opera with this guy, because I thought she was going to. And this guy's like the carrot top of opera singers. He's actually got a prop bottle to swig, which I loved. He's like, I will actually carry a bottle. Yeah, sing it, mother. Take something off.

32:02Ben Mandelker: and more and more people kept on popping out from backstage i was surprised i thought it was just gonna be this one guy but then like slowly but surely like there's some there's a lady and then there's another guy and so they're all watching and bose tells us i love opera i love opera as much as kiri loves being in san diego and maybe quitting his job so much so that i'm on the la opera brand board okay so if these women have any culture they're gonna appreciate it if they don't appreciate they ain't got no culture and then we cut to amanda just like just on her phone texting

32:33Ronnie Karam: amanda looks so bored it's so funny she's like texting going through her tiktok she's like her eyes are half closed she's like oh my god why are they singing all their words is this english

32:47Ben Mandelker: i do think this was probably a challenging thing because you know i actually really enjoy opera and I think it's like going to the opera is like a very special thing. However, if I've just gotten off of like a crazy like 12 hour flight and I'm jet lagged and tired and you put you lower the lights and start playing opera, I'm going to fall asleep. And like I would have been like, oh my God, oh my God, I'm on camera and they're going to get me falling asleep because I would have been out like a light and it has nothing to do with the performers or even that it's opera. It's just like if you're playing classical music and the lights are low i'm in a comfy chair after a long flight like i'm done for yeah and i was

33:28Ronnie Karam: wondering who kyle is going to send that video to because kyle's you know they're also tacky this this whole cat i mean like 90 of this cast is just tacky as you've got amanda texting you've got erica uh heckling you've got kyle whipping out her phone being like it's opera

33:45Ben Mandelker: why are you recording this it's so weird you're not at like a taylor swift concert it's just like i don't know it's just so kyle i'm getting it all well first of all i also hate that in general when you go to like a concert of some sort and someone is like recording an entire song how many times do you go back and watch that video of the entire song it never sounds good it never looks good the lights are the lighting is blown out and then you post it on social media and we're all supposed to be like in awe of it like no thank you and now kyle's doing it for the stupid opera performance that's not stupid opera performance but it's a stupid video she took of the opera performance and it's just like just just sit there and watch it and enjoy it kyle yeah you can't get away with anything on this show without us complaining

34:31Ronnie Karam: seriously it's your fucking phone away this isn't the bellagio fountains you know and so sudden's like let me let you in on a little secret i fall asleep at opera tell no one yeah and sudden just can't catch a break because she's already so boring this year and then this week this timothy chalamet stuff came out and now operas uh settin's out there dissing the opera i was like girl you just can't win i mean what are the odds that that would be the same week you know i hope she gets doja cat sending her nasty texts just in general has nothing to do the opera i feel like doja doja cat went off on timothy Chalamet about saying that opera and ballet is a dying art form.

35:15Ronnie Karam: She's like, I'm Doja Cat. Here's what I think about Timothy. It's like, wow, everybody really has something to say, right?

35:22Ben Mandelker: I did not see that Doja Cat had a response to that because I was not really, I mean, I saw that he said that and it was stupid and like, literally, who is Timothy Chalamet in this world? As what's her face Yolanda would say, but I did not realize that Doja Cat had something to say about it, which is hilarious.

35:40Ronnie Karam: Yeah, Doja Cat went off on him, and then the next day admitted it was just for clicks. And people were like, oh god, I really believed in Doja Cat. I really thought she was on our side.

35:49Ben Mandelker: She's like, guys, I know how to do some engagement beats.

35:52Ronnie Karam: It's so funny, all these people pretending they're so cultured right now. They're like, how dare you talk about opera and ballet? And it's like, have you ever been, have any of you ever been to the opera or a ballet? Just stop now. Like, how dare you? Although, Timothy Chalamet, what a dumbass. What a dumbass, honestly. What are you bullying opera and ballet for? Bully Amanda, like the rest of us.

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39:04Ronnie Karam: So the opera finishes. The guy dies. Everybody, spoiler alert for those of you who haven't seen it, everybody applauds. And then they go back to another room to wait for dinner. and Amanda's like, Hi, Dorit. Can we speak? She's like, Sure, I just need to use the restroom. Can we talk after that? I need to tinkle winkle in my tinkle. That's Italian for tinkle.

39:30Ben Mandelker: So Kyle then is like, Dorit goes off to, obviously she does not want to have this conversation. So Kyle is like, Amanda, did she say hi to you? She's like, Yeah, I just want to say what's on my mind and just get to a better place with her. yeah and you haven't seen her since that birthday dinner right i mean that feels like forever ago right right she's like yeah it was and that's why i'm hoping enough time has passed that we can collect our thoughts so then dorit comes back and it's like bows is there enough time before dinner for amanda and i to talk because she has to have a conversation but i don't want to hold anyone up since everyone's always waiting for me so in this case i just want to make a public statement that i am actually not delaying dinner it's amanda right now dorit who just made everyone wait for an hour

40:12Ronnie Karam: again it's like i would hate to leave everyone waiting for me bro you're not holding anyone up we'll just deep without you no i'd rather have dinner amanda we can chat after dinner and you know why dorit wants this right because she wants to yell at amanda at the whole table she doesn't

40:26Ben Mandelker: she doesn't want that private yeah right and she also just doesn't like amanda she doesn't care about amanda and she's like i would rather go to the group dinner and have fun than miss it to have some stupid conversation with amanda you know and it's more fun when bo is bo's is there to like rip you down classily and that too so amanda's like okay so right after dinner yes so sutton's like dorit has zero respect for amanda so amanda just has to show that like what you know one that she cares about her relationship with dorit and two that she wants to fix it but amanda being such a weenie she's like like she doesn't show that like come on girl i love that amanda is getting like network notes from sun in the middle of like the show it's like hey hey hey stop being so lame on camera okay um this is a big episode for that yeah but this is a big episode for that because

41:20Ronnie Karam: later sutton and uh kyle go to her and try to give her a producer talk they don't even hide what they really do this is what they're really like and this is what you have to do if you're gonna do this right on camera. Yeah. But first, the common area, Amanda is like, um, but we need to have a conversation, Dorit. And Dorit's like, I just, you know, I do want to enjoy myself with everyone, and we can speak privately.

41:46Ben Mandelker: Mm-hmm. Can we, though? So now Dorit is really annoyed. Dorit goes from passive-aggressive to pretty much aggressive, but not quite there yet. She's like, Amanda, whatever you want but i do want to enjoy myself so let's enjoy dinner and then say what you've got to say it was so condescending it's so okay okay cool cool okay so now um outside they're heading to

42:13Ronnie Karam: dinner and um they're having trouble getting down the stairs because they're all wearing heels cobblestones what the fuck why is this all why does this road look like tom's bald skin So Sutton's like, wow, that was a bad idea. I've got tiny, tiny ankles, bird ankles.

42:32Ben Mandelker: So now we watch for 20 minutes as they are served wine. And Amanda's like, just a tiny bit of wine, please. That's just a taste. That's enough.

42:40Ronnie Karam: Thank you.

42:41Ben Mandelker: And everyone gets their wine. And we're just like, wait, guys. Guys, I have to take a picture of this food. Because look, they serve like prosciutto with melon. Like Skye would eat prosciutto melon literally every day. if you could. He loves prosciutto melon. Oh my God. It's like between the moisturizing and the prosciutto melon, he's like learned so well.

43:02Ronnie Karam: Who cares? Cheese!

43:05Ben Mandelker: Jennifer speaking for the rest of us. I know. Honestly, I feel so much happier when I'm in Europe. I live here now. I feel like it's like where I'm supposed to be. Like I have a retirement plan to live in a chateau in the south of France, overlooking the sea with unlimited prosciutto melon and to like live in caftans and jewelry and just sit on the beach making jewelry and trying different ways to never match Amanda again, just for fun. I'm like 10. I'll always be 10. And Xander's there, and prosciutto melon, and moisturizer, and Caius, and Sky. It's amazing. I die. I love Europe.

43:40Ronnie Karam: They don't have e-bikes. I'm moving here. So we go back to the table, another steak. And I felt bad for the waiter because they're bringing over a steak and he's like trying to jab it with a fork and then put it on the plate but he keeps kind of missing it or he keeps falling off the fork and then it's like and like jibbles back down i was like why do we have to keep focusing on this man not able to get the steak on his fork could you just leave the man alone why are we bullying him now we're bullying opera we're bullying um ballet and

44:10Ben Mandelker: now we're bullying waiters i know he is tongue deprived so kyle's like um dorit can i ask a question i don't know if anyone else saw but um you had dinner with pk could you um elaborate on that please so then on screen page six to read and pk kemsley reunite for post-split dinner date after she hinted at possible reconciliation where'd they go where'd they go for privacy craigs

44:36Ronnie Karam: yeah probably these two let's go to dinner bay but let's make sure it's on page six it really matters where else are we going to have serious conversations that manage that matter about the children the children craig's catch ponte cana that's where you go erica's like

44:56Ben Mandelker: erica's like girl we flew all the way over here and you didn't tell me that shit what the fuck is going on with you camsley i quit she goes well i'm starting to pull away because gee i really just pick and choose who i talk about my situation so she's like oh okay

45:14Ronnie Karam: And sudden mouths to her, not you, Erica. Not you. Why is Dorit being such a weirdo? She's like, well, it's my life. And, you know, to have people in this group goomient and to have opinions on what I should and shouldn't feel and say and support them, it feels like there are certain people I feel more comfortable shiming with, like page six. And Erica's like, well, you should have told me you went to dinner with him. Oh, honey, you know he speaks to you freely. I was assaulted. I was insulted.

45:45Ben Mandelker: Well, how do you think I felt when I saw you holding hands with a guy? A guy who's apparently named Shrek. I'm the only one who's supposed to have a Shrek in my life. And Erica's like, well, no one knew. I told no one. Why would I ever tell anyone anything personal about my life? Is that like I'm on some reality show? So then Kyle's like, mm-hmm, because she knew. She's like, yeah, I knew. I totally knew. Sorry, guys. Erica's like, yeah, no one's even supposed to see that. It was only our second date in the middle of the afternoon walking across the public street with holding hands. No one was supposed to see that.

46:16Ronnie Karam: The man was in Crocs and a Strangle Things shirt. Wait, well, not Strangle Things. What was it? It was supposed to be Stranger Things, but it was like Slaughter Things. Yeah, the Slaughter Things. It was only our second date. The man was in a Slaughter Things t-shirt and Crocs. Come on. Oh, you're good. No, back to you. Back to you. I'll be disappointed later.

46:37Ben Mandelker: Yeah, yeah. What happened then? Yeah, let's go back to Dorit Because the point is to expose Dorit's hypocrisy And show that she is actually losing her mind To be committed somewhere It's a good sign, right? You and PK getting together Well, it's not like we're getting back to go there at all It's about the kids

46:54Ronnie Karam: We're implementing a consistent schedule For the kids It's all for the kids I do everything for the children I eat fried calamari for Jackie

47:06Ben Mandelker: Are you happy with where things are? Relieved, probably. That's what I'm going to say.

47:14Ronnie Karam: Relieved. When Erica gets drunk and just doesn't give a fuck. Relieved.

47:22Ben Mandelker: Or as they say in my native tongue, Relieved the most so.

47:28Ronnie Karam: That's a stat. It's a small stat, but it's a stat. If it's a step in Europe, it's measured differently than it is in America. I love how Europe measures things. I belong here.

47:38Ben Mandelker: One small step for Dorit, one giant leap forward for pursuit melon. So Kyle's like,

47:50Ben Mandelker: I'm sorry. I hate when I laugh at my own stupid jokes. It's so funny.

47:54Ronnie Karam: Her thing with, everything is like such a big deal to her. It's like, oh my God, Kai Kai loves pursuit. He's going to die with pursuit. He's like, mom, can you make a will for me? I'm too young to make it. Just say, if I die, bury me in pursuit melon. It's like all I want.

48:10Ben Mandelker: It's not so much that I'm laughing at my own joke. I'm laughing that we are sitting here saying this nonsense.

48:18Ronnie Karam: The show's so stupid. It really is.

48:20Ben Mandelker: I'm sitting here at my childhood desk. This is like the desk I sat at writing college essays where I'm like, ooh, the future. What does the future have in store for me? Fast forward 30 years me sitting at the same desk saying one small step for dorit one giant step for pursuit melon like this is this is my future actually oh well um it's all about the kids so kyle's like well i'm

48:46Ronnie Karam: hoping uh this helps them and their relationship wherever that may lead because that will benefit dorit mentally where she needs it mentally crazy she's crazy kyle if you want to do this storyline

49:01Ben Mandelker: with Dorit, you're going to need to bring in a pro. And I highly recommend you call up Heather Dubrow because she's the only one who's really good at doing the mental health gaslighting. Oh, she really is.

49:13Ronnie Karam: That's Heather Dubrow's bread and butter right there.

49:15Ben Mandelker: There's been a lot of, you know, a question that has popped up a lot is like, should Heather Dubrow join Beverly Hills? And I was like, nah, I don't know if it's really a, I don't know if it will work. But if I had known that this season, Kyle was going to be trying to soft launch a Dorit is crazy storyline. I'll be like, oh, 100 % get Heather in there because this is her bread and butter because Heather would have sat down and be like, Dorit, I don't know what's going on with you, but it is not healthy. And if you need me to call a mental health counselor, I will do that for you.

49:50Ronnie Karam: So Erica's like, well, I'm surprised to see you two rooming together. I did seem very smooth in Amanda's place. And then we see a flashback of that where Sutton's like, oh, talk about another person's marriage. That's not nothing. You can't be such a wimp. Oh, you were doing it too, first of all. And Amanda going, please don't call me a wimp in my own home.

50:12Ben Mandelker: I'm not sure this is a good choice for Sutton. She's trying to repair her relationship with Dorit, so what's going on? Are you trying to stir up trouble, Sutton Brown? Well, if she is trying to stir up trouble, that's about ten times more than you're doing on this show these days, Erica.

50:26Ronnie Karam: Yeah. So Sutton says, well, I just wanted Amanda to know that it's OK to have an opinion, but you shouldn't. You should have told that opinion to Dorit. You guys stop with this. I mean, I don't even like Amanda, but they're being ridiculous. They're like, so, Amanda, what do you think of? They're basically what do you think about Dorit shit talking her husband publicly while they're going through a divorce? Who's going to say great idea? Fuck that guy. Anybody would say it's probably not a good idea if you're going through a public divorce. like what the hell and then they take that and they're like oh my god she was talking about you

50:59Ben Mandelker: to read i know amanda happens to be i think totally in the right on this one i'm sorry she was totally allowed to have an opinion on it and she was by and large just agreeing with kyle kyle was one driving the conversation yes she had thoughts but it was largely kyle and it doesn't even matter whether kyle was there or not she is allowed to weigh in on things because they all are weighing in. Just look at Kyle spending the entire season weighing in on Dorit's mental health. So Amanda's like, well, I fully believe that if I explained what happened and why it happened and how it happened, what I meant in its full context, that it would have been clear that no one was really talking bad about you, Dorit.

51:39Ben Mandelker: She's like, well, you don't know me well. You don't know my situation. And if it was coming from a good place, I would have expected you to have sat me down and had a one-on-one conversation, and then if I invited your opinion or your advice, I'm like, no, Dorit. That's ridiculous. And you can't complain about that when she literally just tried to pull you to the side to have a conversation.

51:59Ronnie Karam: Yeah, exactly. And you won't have it. And Amanda goes, sure. However, when I asked if you see it, it seemed like there was a lot of placements on coil. And Rachel's like, okay, Amanda, I have a question. Pursuit? Melon. Or both. A, B, or C? Tell me.

52:19Ben Mandelker: We actually don't believe in prosciutto melon in my household.

52:24Ronnie Karam: You're dead to me. You're dead to me. Not in the fun way. Not in the fun way. Okay, do you feel like Dorit openly talking about PK and her situation is not a good thing? And remember that I'm a woman going through this right now. So, like, what is your actual opinion? Let's clear it up now. Is Roger a monster? Yes or no?

52:42Ben Mandelker: Amanda's like, well, I feel like I've said it multiple times now, which is that I think it could make her life hard. And what about the fact that everyone, I mean, most people here share that same opinion, but you're the most offended that I have that opinion. And she's like, so you heard Kyle's opinion and you adopted it as your own. Fine. I'm like, well, then why are you mad that she pushed it onto Kyle? you know like now you're accusing her of just glomming onto kyle's opinion well that's what amanda basically said she's like well i basically just agreed with what cost how could you just make it all about kyle now this is about you okay well this is what i said well you're just taking

53:23Ronnie Karam: what kyle said and didn't you but i didn't adopt it i agreed with it because it made sense with me oh right that's the same thing six of one half a dozen of the other i don't follow could you do

53:37Ben Mandelker: that math again? How can you have six of one if you've got half a dozen at the same time? I don't understand.

53:44Ronnie Karam: If there's 12 bookers and six peppers, there's still six bookered peppers left over. Do you understand?

53:51Ben Mandelker: Oh my God, she's losing her mind. Look at the math she's doing. It doesn't even make sense.

53:56Ronnie Karam: All right, not knowing her very well. Does it bother you to read that she would speak to you one way to your face and speak about you another way, Kathy? All right, can I just put this into sentences that people understand because this fight is incredibly stupid at this point. This is episode 13, people. God damn.

54:14Ben Mandelker: I'm going to weigh in so that way I present as one of Amanda's allies, even though I was talking shit about her behind her back just before. I mean, that could also be considered supporting you by expressing that this is not a good idea because we're just trying to look out for you, Dorit, or are you too crazy to understand what we're saying? Blink twice if you can hear me, Dorit.

54:31Ronnie Karam: But it's different for you to have an opinion, Kyle, because you and Dorit have history. Well, if a fiend is coming from a good place, and they say it to you once, and then they turn around in three circles, bend over, touch their toes, take off one earring, throw it behind their head, lick their finger and taste salt on it, then it's okay. But if people you don't know stay behind your back, then it starts to feel like they're no longer looking out for you. Do you understand the rules?

54:59Ben Mandelker: You know what it is, everyone. I think when somebody doesn't know someone, you've just got to learn to read the room and know your place. Which was this like, it was like a hilarious thing that Kathy just like comes in as basically like, yeah, everyone just shut up, especially you, Amanda. But I do have to say like, yeah, Kathy's actually right. You do have to read the room and know your place. But also, I just don't think what Amanda said was abhorrent. She said so many worse things and so many more obnoxious things all season long. And I think, honestly, that's what they're coming for her for.

55:31Ben Mandelker: I think she's just annoying to them and they just need to have something that they can come hard at her for because they don't want to be shallow enough to be like, you're just super annoying. Because she just was having a conversation with Kyle and she was like, yeah, it's probably not a good idea to say those things about your ex. I think you're allowed to say that. It's not the biggest crime in the world. Dorit probably doesn't want to hear it, but it's honestly probably true too.

55:53Ronnie Karam: well it's not that she said it i think it's just how she's dealing with the aftermath of it that's just so stupid because all she really had to say was that like listen i didn't you know i don't know you i i was asked my opinion i gave it but best to you i meant you no offense i'm sorry that's it but her being like but it wasn't even me but like why are you yelling at me but it was kyle who did it but then why can everyone else say it but i have experience because one time i knew somebody like who had a con and the kid talks about him out it's like she's doing this like childish like she's just annoying you know and she will she argues for no reason and she thinks she's better than everybody and she talks down to everybody and they're like you're talking down to me timu you're talking down to me lady and this is why sutton is telling her to sort of stand in

56:44Ben Mandelker: her truth because when amanda says well it was kyle who said it or i have an informed but it comes from an informed opinion or even honestly the big thing where this really started was like like oh my god like it's the anniversary of like my the passing of my child you can't talk to me this way like not you can't talk to me but like you know like she made it about herself in that moment and so the the pattern overall is like she is not really backing up her own opinion and she's being kind of slippery about it. And the slipperiness feels like duplicity. And I think Dorit is feeling like that's why this feels so negative to Dorit because it feels like you're having an opinion and you're being sneaky about it and you're not being upfront about it.

57:32Ben Mandelker: And when I try to ask you about it, you always have something to say about it. And that feels untrustworthy and unsafe to Dorit. And I think that's what she's responding to. But in reality, what Amanda said was, again, it's like, yeah, she said it. You know, it's like not a big deal.

57:49Ronnie Karam: Yeah. So Erica's cracking up. And she's like, if Kathy Hill, who's a beautifully put together woman who calls someone the F word in a bar, according to me, a couple of years ago and had a fit, was racist, is telling you to read the room and know your price, babe, you'll fuck.

58:08Ben Mandelker: Yeah, so everyone's just there quietly and just like looking around like, hmm, awkward, awkward. So Jennifer then pipes up.

58:17Ronnie Karam: Yeah, she's like, Kathy's the peacemaker, but it shut everybody up. She must have really got under her skin. Speaking of skin, I can't wait to get my boobies on the table and take a thirst trap with the chicken.

58:32Ben Mandelker: Guys, but what about the fact that this is an informed opinion? Like, I've worked closely with, like, a lot of children of divorced parents as a therapist. Jennifer just rolls her eyes. And I did see parents talking bad about each other, which made things harder on the family.

58:50Ronnie Karam: But she's not talking about PK to her kids. She's talking about him to us. So that's different. Natalie's like, yeah, and you're not her therapist. You're her friend at a dinner table. So maybe you could put it in a friendship box and not in a therapeutic box. Okay.

59:03Ben Mandelker: And I want someone to put something in my box. I'm Natalie and sexually liberated.

59:08Ronnie Karam: Speaking of boxes, that therapist really did a number on mine. Massage therapist, I mean. Okay, Natalie. Okay. So, um, Jari, what do you need from Amanda right now? She's like, I don't need anything, Quayle. You're not the therapist, okay? I don't need anything. Shut up, Quayle. And Quayle's like, um, but do you want for anything? like maybe an apology i don't need anything okay well let me ask you this when you brought up the cold the other night at dinner was it your intention by going back 357 blog posts to a

59:44Ben Mandelker: post i wrote 14 years ago i like kathy goes well if i was annoyed with someone i'd do a deep dive Yeah, for sure. Rich is like, definitely wasn't 357 blog posts back. Like, I die at that exaggeration. I looked at the site. It was like on page four. Yeah. Like, I was so bored. I was like, thank God they showed up quickly. It's like, it's called Google, or as they call it here, Googlioni. So Amanda's like, if you search Amanda Francis cult. Cult. Amanda Francis cult. it doesn't come up i checked which is girl it sure does it sure does amanda's not aware of like algorithms apparently i remember one time when in the blogging days i searched for something and like my blog came up first and i was like oh my god i've gone viral because like i'm the first search result but it's like i was the first search result because the algorithm was tailored towards me.

1:00:46Ben Mandelker: So of course it's going to show me things. So like Amanda being like thinking that her search results are like the norm for everyone else is hilarious to me.

1:00:53Ronnie Karam: That's like when Jax from the Valley posted like, oh my God, I'm like, I'm trending on Google. And they're like, Jax, that's your personal, your personal page.

1:01:06Ben Mandelker: Amanda probably hit high at enough times on the cult news that like, or whatever she did that went down. But for everyone else, it's like right up there.

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