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24 Mar 2026 · 51m · 17 chapters

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#3274 Crappy Hour 3/23/26: RHOM Paused and MomTok Off the Rails

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Hosts: Ben Mandelker and Ronnie Karam

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A daily podcast that critiques and celebrates Bravo TV shows, including the Real Housewives franchise and Below Deck. The show features humorous commentary, fan interactions, and exclusive content on Patreon.

This episode covers two main topics

  1. The pausing of Real Housewives of Miami (RHOM).
  2. Recent developments in the world of MomTok.

Written by AI. May contain mistakes.

Chapters

2:46

Reactions to RHOM Pausing

The hosts discuss the reactions from the cast regarding RHOM's pause.

“Well, first and foremost, let's address the elephant in the room, which is that you're wearing vertical stripes.”
4:28

Discussion on Cast Changes and Reactions

The hosts analyze the implications of potential cast changes on RHOM.

“It broke last week, but over the, since we, since this news broke, there've been reactions from the cast and they've sort of like, it's been, there's been like a range of reactions.”
7:39

The Future of RHOM and Viewer Responsibility

Exploration of viewer responsibility and marketing strategies for RHOM.

“Yeah, I think I don't understand why you get rid of Adriana.”
15:25

Discussion on Real Housewives of Beverly Hills

Explore the latest drama involving characters and themes from the show.

“And that is Real Housewives of Beverly Hills.”
18:01

Bose's Instagram Apology and Amanda's Role

A deep dive into the dynamics of shade, apologies, and character interactions.

“you have Giselle outright calling Angel a catfish, for instance.”
22:59

MomTok Controversy and The Bachelorette Cancellation

Investigate the recent controversies surrounding MomTok and reality TV cancellations.

“She sort of has that angel effect on me as an angel from Potomac, which is like, she's so bad.”
28:03

The Bachelorette Controversy

Discussion on the current scandal involving The Bachelorette and its implications.

“I feel like the last time this happened was with Megan Wants a Millionaire because some guy, someone who got very far in that show, murdered someone.”
29:06

Reality TV and Hero Narratives

Exploration of flawed characters in reality TV and audience perceptions.

“I've only watched season one and a few episodes of season two.”
30:14

The Impact of Video Evidence

Discussion on how video evidence changed audience views on the scandal.

“So I think as an audience, you're like, OK, well, people make mistakes.”
31:44

Dark Themes in Reality Shows

Reflection on the darker aspects of reality TV and its impact on participants.

“And by the time we get to episode 10, it's over, right?”
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33:15

The Challenges of Covering New Reality Shows

Discussion on the difficulties of covering new reality shows amidst existing commitments.

“But let me tell you, that show is so dark.”
35:58

AI and Internet Rumors

Exploration of AI-generated rumors and their impact on celebrity narratives.

“And like, are, am I going to like, despite everything, despite how much we shit on Beverly Hills, we don't cover Beverly Hills and we cover secret lives of Mormon wives.”
38:10

Rhode Island and Reality TV

A lighthearted discussion about Rhode Island's link to reality TV and local experiences.

“Like I believe those babies doing housewives.”
44:00

Real Housewives of New Jersey Updates

Discuss the latest drama surrounding Margaret Josephs and RHONJ.

“But I think this is a bad move for Mark.”
46:26

Amanda Batula Rumors and Reality TV

Explore rumors about Amanda Batula and her dating life amid her separation.

“But I really do think that she's so smart and she's so quick and she's very funny.”
48:46

Jesse Solomon's Musical Tour Discussion

Debate the appeal of Jesse Solomon's upcoming musical tour.

“And she's like, well, I just want to say it's not what Drew would like you to think it's about, which is music.”
50:52

TomTom and Vanderpump Business Insights

Analyze the performance and future of TomTom in relation to Vanderpump's other ventures.

“People want to talk about TomTom, which is another thing.”
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2:18Ben Mandelker: Who cares what happens when there's so much that happens? Who cares what happens when there's so much that happens?

2:31Ronnie Karam: Well, hello and welcome to Grow Up Yawa. I'm Ronnie and that's Ben over there. Hello, Ben. Hi, Ronnie. How's it going? Good. Hi, everybody. Welcome back. We are a week later, which feels crazy. It's been so long. I know. without talking bravo the headlines the hell i know it's been three weeks because we had a one

2:55Ben Mandelker: week delay because this time last week we were in south by southwest at the at the uh iheart podcast

3:02Ronnie Karam: awards yes that was so fun but now here we are back to crappy hour if you want these videos well the video is free every time we do it on youtube or patreon patreon.com slash watch of crappins It's also where you get all our other video recaps and ad-free listening and bonus episodes and Discord server, free newsletter. Go over there. It's so fun. You're going to love it. So, Ben, what's on your mind today?

3:28Ben Mandelker: Well, first and foremost, let's address the elephant in the room, which is that you're wearing vertical stripes. I'm wearing horizontal stripes. So who's the elephant? Bitch.

3:38Ronnie Karam: Oh, we do make a hashtag. That's true.

3:40Ben Mandelker: Yeah.

3:41Ronnie Karam: You calling me an elephant?

3:43Ben Mandelker: Yeah. Horizontal? Why don't we talk about, we've talked about last week.

3:47Ronnie Karam: I want to talk about stripes more because you know what? That is something because they say vertical stripes make you thinner and horizontal stripes make you fatter. But you look thinner and I look, look, it doesn't work because look how the horizontal stripes are. They like go out and then they go in. I don't think they make you look thinner. I think they see that's thin. I don't even see you. Who are you? Is it just the air? You're ahead. That's all I see.

4:11Ben Mandelker: I'm still working off that Texas. Let me tell you something. Okay. stripe gate, Tom, tall gamer girl says stripe gate is stripe gate. Um, well, you know what? A tiger can't change his stripes. Um, so let's, let's talk about Miami. We've talked about it already. It broke last week, but over the, since we, since this news broke, there've been reactions from the cast and they've sort of like, it's been, there's been like a range of reactions. Of course, universally the fans are upset, anger, furious, why does this show have to leave us when other shows that are not even half as good still stay in the air?

4:52Ben Mandelker: I don't know. But we have our reactions from several of the housewives on that show in the wake of it. Alexia, let's pull up Alexia's reaction. She said, as a proud Latina, being part of a platform like Real Housewives of Miami on Bravo has always meant more to me than just reality television. it meant visibility, representation, having a voice, and killing all narcs. I was like, wow, okay, going after the narcissist again. Wow, Alexia. She says, hearing that the show is currently on pause is disheartening, and it's hard not to feel the weight of that. Opportunities are like this are rare, and they matter.

5:27Ben Mandelker: And well, you know, Peter, they open doors and challenge perceptions and allow our stories and our culture to be seen and celebrated on a larger stage, especially when you're a star, like I was born to be. I'm still a star. Goodbye. I'm still a star.

5:41Ronnie Karam: Yeah, the whole thing was very sad did you see the post that uh dorit dorit on watch what happens live there was a clip of dorit explaining her house going into foreclosure again by the way explaining again it's like the 90th time we've heard this but anyway she was on there talking about that and larza left a comment that said well like the mortgages on real housewives of miami are paid up like that's good well you weren't canceled because of mortgages unfortunately well not canceled I guess Andy said it's not canceled. It's just on pause, everybody. Calm down. It's just on pause.

6:18Ben Mandelker: And then Lisa Hoxing jumped in and she was like, guys, guys, guys, relax. Okay. It's just on pause. It's coming back. Come on, guys, calm down. But then other people are saying, no, this is going to be a long-term pause. And Lisa's being optimistic. All I know about Lisa is that she still hasn't given us the photo that we took together in Miami. And I messaged her again. This is the real issue here. The real issue is that I followed up and she still hasn't written. And I'm starting to believe all the stories that all the house has complained about her. Like, lady, send us the photo. We will post it.

6:50Ben Mandelker: It'll be a great moment.

6:51Ronnie Karam: Always take your own photo. That's it. We should know this by now. But yeah, he's saying it's just a pause. I mean, I don't know. Bravo and Cocktails reported earlier, some goss, that a bunch of them were fired anyway. that they were firing julia gertie and um uh adriana and one other one who was the other one that they were hiring more of them anyway and that this just kind of prolonged that but so even if it's not canceled and it is just on pause it's still going to come back with half the cast on which is yeah yeah lisa right which is not what i want anyway that's like a reboot i don't want that i want the cast back you can get rid of you can get rid of julia i'm fine with that I don't think I've seen anyone being like, oh my God, what are we going to do without Julia?

7:38Ronnie Karam: I'm going to miss the goat. I haven't seen that. But yeah, everyone else. Come on.

7:45Ben Mandelker: Yeah, I think I don't understand why you get rid of Adriana. She gave arguably the most viral moment of the season. And she's really great as a friend of. So like, why are you messing with a friend of really? I mean, and Lisa, you know, Lisa, it wasn't like the biggest Lisa season, but like Lisa's Lisa. she's always entertaining and, and she like watching the other women sort of scold her and treat her like brat kid sister is always like really funny. I just, I don't think that changing the cast is what the show needs. I don't think that's why there are low ratings. It's not because of the cast.

8:18Ben Mandelker: I think what it needs is a better marketing approach. So Stephanie and her response, she said, well, we aired in the summer when everyone was traveling. Yeah, maybe, maybe, maybe not. I don't know. I don't know if that's really, if that holds up these days.

8:34Ronnie Karam: I mean, Big Brother airs in the summer and, you know. Other shows air. A lot of shows are popular in the summer. So, no.

8:40Ben Mandelker: Look, yeah, they aired it after Orange County. So, they were given a nice lead in. But I do feel like the show came back on Bravo. The first, I think, two seasons back on Bravo, they launched them like late December during Christmas break. That's when content creators are on break. People are not really paying attention to TV in the same way. so those seasons like launch at a time when people aren't watching then people say oh i'm gonna catch up on that and i just i missed it and they never do and then they just don't catch up in general i think the i think the like the the restructuring shouldn't come from the cast the restructuring should come from the marketing department that's what i think um i think america just has to like appreciate what's good and then there's that i blame us and then there's

9:25Ronnie Karam: I already said that I'm not going to go into a whole speech about it, but I blame us. We want to blame everybody else, but it is us. It is the voters. It is the voters. It is our fault. It is our fault. It is time we took some personal responsibility. And someone left a comment, I think, on YouTube earlier, like, well, it's partly our fault because we say everything's good and everything's not good, and we used to hate more things than we hate now. Roughly quoting, not quoting, but whatever you call it. But, you know, a lot of Bravo is good. Bravo has had a really good year, I think. I think that it's been a really strong year for quality.

10:02Ronnie Karam: And that doesn't explain really anything. I think Miami was good. It's just people don't watch it. What are you going to do? You can't force them to do it. You can't force them to do it. That's it. I'm going to redistrict to this whole country until the Nielsen families are well within the Miami range. Thank you.

10:18Ben Mandelker: I think, you know, someone, Miriam, left a comment here saying, I blame Todd. I think that's not nothing. I think when you have a show that's low rated, it's not rating as high as the others. And there are some, as we were on Crystal and Cynthia's podcast, they just put it up today. And Crystal was talking about how, you know, these women have been on the show a while, so the show's getting more expensive. And then you have a pending lawsuit. It's just, it's one of the things that can tip the needle, which is unfortunate. but again like there have been other times when shows have gone on pause and it's definitely needed a cast shake-up you know atlanta needed a cast shake-up potomac needed a little one a few years ago um you know i'm trying i'm trying to think of uh orange county had some moments like several years ago that needed you know roney obviously had a cast shake-up new jersey's going to one like as sometimes the cast members they stop being like good cast members and they just are very self-producing and they just almost start to act like they're too big for the show you sort of get the feeling feeling like they're holding stuff back but miami did not have that i really didn't feel like they were doing that i think on miami they were going full force i think that was in a way the fact that they've been underdogs like they were even more motivated to put together a really good show so i just i don't know i just i don't think that like like Like having like firing for people is not going to do.

11:42Ben Mandelker: I don't think that like bringing in a whole bunch of new people that no one knows will necessarily move the needle for the people that weren't watching it anyway. Those of us who watch it will continue to watch it, you know. And I think that they'll probably bring in new people because their track record on casting on Miami has been like nearly 100%. Like they are so good at it. But I don't know if new cast members are going to be, oh, that's the thing that's going to make the people who refuse to watch it suddenly decide, oh, I'm going to watch it now. I think the thing that should make them want to watch it is the fact that all of us are outraged right now.

12:14Ben Mandelker: We're making such a big stink. And I don't know, like, promote it better. I have no solutions, Ronnie.

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15:24Ronnie Karam: Now let's go on to something that does pretty well in the ratings, even when it's boring. And that is Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. So, Bo's made a stink on that show. I mean, nothing has happened on that show this whole year. That show is basically Kyle trying to get Dorit in being like an insane bad mother or something. Not sure really what Kyle's trying to do there. but she's trying to comfort Dorit like behind the scenes. And then Dorit's getting a divorce. And then basically the whole season is like piling on this Amanda girl, who's possibly one of the more annoying people to be cast on one of these shows in a long time.

16:00Ronnie Karam: But they really are piling on her. So in the Italy episode this past week, we see Bo's. They're all standing in a line, you know, looking at the Statue of David, which lots of you have reminded us is not the real Statue of David. It's a fake.

16:14Ben Mandelker: though it's a fake out wrong about it um side like that okay yes which is fine by me i mean

16:21Ronnie Karam: they have the same butt you know what i mean i don't care like i'm here for the butt it's the same i'm glad there's multiple fine ass all around that place that's great but anyway they're standing there kind of looking at that or taking pictures and then they're looking at these masks with the long nose and um natalie the new boring one says like oh well who do you think is the pinocchio of this group and Bose is like, ha ha, Amanda. And Amanda's standing right next door and hears it and gets so offended that she says something to Bose right there and there's an argument. Just kidding. She doesn't say anything and then goes to Kyle and tries to get her Kyle army together and lets Kyle stew about it for her and lets Kyle try to get an army to go against Bose.

17:01Ronnie Karam: It's the most ridiculous thing. So then finally she's confronted. Bose denies saying it. We were wondering, does Bose really not remember saying it? I mean, what the hell? Because that seems weird for Bose. Or does she just not want to argue about it? What's the deal? So Bose had an apology video on Instagram this week. First of all, just reviewing the video itself. Bose looks amazing. Every Instagram video, that is not someone who just shows up in their PJs and does an Instagram video. She is full glam and looking amazing in every Instagram video. What pressure must that be?

17:40Ben Mandelker: Yeah. Well, she's in marketing. She knows how to market herself, right? She knows how to present.

17:46Ronnie Karam: I will buy whatever she's got. I think, okay, what she said was shady.

17:54Ben Mandelker: It was a shady moment. I don't think it was above and beyond any shadiness that we've seen on these shows when you have Giselle outright calling Angel a catfish, for instance. You know, like a lot of these shows, there are shady ass things that are said. I'm not going to say it wasn't shady. Of course it was shady.

18:11Ronnie Karam: And I thought it was shady. Let me just add on. Hold on to your and because I don't want to come back to it. But I think it was shady. I think what made it shadier, at least to me, is a it's Bose. So I don't expect I mean, it's not like Bose never has shade. I just didn't. She seems to be kind of the nicer one, I guess, in the group. but also that they're all hating on amanda at the same time and i think it made it worse because it's like kind of making a group joke at someone who's already being hated on i thought that made it kind of shittier and you know but that said like you said it wasn't really the worst thing we've heard on housewives and i didn't think it was this big of a deal okay i think i think it

18:48Ben Mandelker: literally did not even need a twitter apology okay apologize at the reunion for it be like i'm sorry I was being shady or I said it, I was being shady. I didn't even realize like, but I hurt your feelings. She hurt her feelings. I'm not going to take that away. It's not nice to hurt people's feelings. And Amanda has been totally obnoxious all season. But one thing that she hasn't been doing is she has not been hurting other people's feelings. I will give her that. And one thing I like about Amanda is that she is so awful, but she gets under everyone's skin. And I like that too. She agitates them.

19:18Ben Mandelker: That's like very funny to me. I think Amanda sucks though. Generally like in a vacuum, she sucks. in a dust buster. She sucks. In a dust pan.

19:28Ronnie Karam: It sucks. Still sucks.

19:30Ben Mandelker: She sucks, but she's really good as a foil because without her, they'd be doing nothing this season. So that being said, I just don't see what Bo's shade being any worse than anything we've even seen on this show. I'm sure Erica has said, had had little quips before that she said about Sutton. I just am too lazy to go and pull up the evidence. I'm sorry, everyone. I'm sorry I'm failing in the court of housewives. So whatever. It was a shady moment. The fact that she had to like go onto the internet and like make an apology for it. Maybe she made it worse by doing that, quite frankly, because everyone's like, everyone's ganging up on Amanda.

20:03Ben Mandelker: Everyone's ganging up on Amanda. I mean, yes, this is a show that has featured the Fox Force five, a history of ganging up. But in this case, Amanda's fucking obnoxious. Okay. And they've been really nice to her for a while. And now they're just like at their limit. And I'm sorry. I think sometimes a shady thing just comes on out. And I think Bose did not need to give that apology. I thought it was very nice that she did it. And the fact that people are like, well, Bose, why haven't you stayed at your job for more than 18 months? Any job for more than 18 months? That's fine. But, like, I don't think that has anything to do with the stupid quip that she made.

20:40Ronnie Karam: Yeah, I mean, her apology was basically like, look, you know, sometimes you just forget what you said. And I forgot. And I copped to it. And I'm very sorry, Amanda. Because I did say it. and i'm sorry but you know she gave like a full like but you know you're on a show and that's that's what we do i mean this is a tv show like you'll survive this you know the tldr um so people felt like oh that's not enough of an apology and i was like really well where's the apology from kyle for making this a huge deal or kyle for trying to make dorit sound like she needs to be institutionalized because she likes to shop a lot or whatever else is going on there so I don't know it was kind of interesting but then of course you know the second that I start feeling anything like any kind of sorry for Amanda when I'm like you know maybe they are all just getting a little too harsh like has Amanda really done anything to anybody I mean she's annoying about herself but she hasn't really done anything to anybody I mean the worst thing she's done is this Dorit thing which is like talking about Dorit's marriage which she didn't really they said what do you think about Dorit's marriage and she was like I think you shouldn't talk shit about your ex when there's child custody or whatever going on which i don't think was even that wrong so okay so that's kind of the only thing she said but then god if amanda doesn't just keep upping the annoying factor okay she comes on i think it was today i saw it on reddit today so that's all that counts that's all that matters but no not carlos she comes on reddit and she's like guys i will not be broken by these reddit comments and then she's putting the reddit comments on the screen that are like, Scamanda, you're a Scamanda, and you're a scammer, and why don't you talk about your scamming business, or whatever.

22:24Ronnie Karam: So they're popping up, and she's like, I will not be broken by these comments. I will rise above it. I will sell a cup. I will sell a cup. She's like, going to design a cup that says, like, scammer on it or something that I'm sure will cost$5 ,000. And she's talking about how strong she is and she won't be broken, and you cannot make her cry while she was like trying to fake cry on the internet. I mean, you know, part of me is like, oh God, shut up. And the other part of me is like, this is hilarious. Just, I need to follow this account now because I die every time. I just start cracking up every time.

22:59Ronnie Karam: So I don't know.

23:00Ben Mandelker: Yeah. I think Amanda's hilarious. I laugh. She sort of has that angel effect on me as an angel from Potomac, which is like, she's so bad. I crack up. Like I look forward.

23:08Ronnie Karam: I thought you meant like Della Reese.

23:11Ben Mandelker: She has it. You know, when I look at Amanda, And I think that's the soul of Della Reese. She looks like she was the judge once in a court case against oneself on Starting Over. That was an episode I saw. Touched by an angel. Yes. Yeah. No, I think Amanda is like comic relief. She's obnoxious. She did not deserve to be the butt of like a mean girl moment. But I think as mean girl moments go, it's just, I don't know. like and we shouldn't judge it like if someone's mean someone's mean it shouldn't be like oh well whatever toughen up because it could be worse no one wants to hear that but what i'm saying is like they're so delicate they're so fucking delicate on this show and like seriously say that is the gist of beverly hills is that it's the one where they're always like but that was mean that wasn't nice but i have to say as many people in the comments have now brought up like several times like when you have ladies of london airing directly after and you know you've got kimmy just going for the jugular you have on that show you have um you know missy who's shared her story about her brother who was murdered and kimmy being like well well that's a terrible thing that happened but like i mean do you have to ruin the blonde blonde tasting with it i mean too much

24:30Ronnie Karam: right like i'm just trying to have fun here and you got to bring up your dead brother i mean come on who does that and amanda's and then stands on business when she's called out and is like no shut up i don't want to listen to your dead brothers but that was a song but you can't you

24:47Ben Mandelker: can't say that came here brother was murdered she goes so what and like and then you have bows here it's like oh who's the pinocchio of our group amanda oh my god issue a public apology she compared Amanda to Pinocchio, a Pinocchio mask, even worse. Like, oh God, please, everyone just relax. Take a chill pill. Meanwhile, I'm the one who's actually whipped into a frenzy.

25:11Ronnie Karam: Yeah, but it does. I mean, that show, we'll get whipped into a frenzy over nothing, just like them, because that's how they've got us trained, you know? So who knows? My comment, my thing is, it's not even, you know, who's right or wrong, or who's mean, or who's not mean, or whether the comment was the worst thing. At the end of the day, there's no crying in baseball. and just be quiet like you can't take it and i did like what erica told her when she's like um if you think that this is the worst thing this could happen to a woman in this group then you better get your car you better drive the fuck home come gonna um i actually kind of agreed with erica there it's like you know this is not the place to cry um yeah you know it's it's as sudden erica's just like you know sudden uh why don't you give this woman a round of applause for saving your ass this season you know i'm surprised that sudden is is acting like okay man do you need to stand up to them because sudden this is usually you in this position you should be glad that

26:08Ben Mandelker: somebody else is taking it for once yeah exactly and by the way it's sort of a go back to something that you had mentioned like saying bose is the nice one and it's surprising to hear her be shady i think bose has been shady in her confessionals for both seasons now but she really just hasn't had too much of an opportunity to be just shady in the group and i don't think we people call bows out for anything because there's not really a reason to no one really has a beef with her there was a beef with kyle but bows just getting along with people and they like bows and bows kind of to me bows seems like a cool person to hang out with so like no one has an issue but i'm sure that other shoe will fall like that's like her moment will come i'm i think the only reason why she didn't get like her sophomore hazing is just because amanda is there sucking picking up all the room,

26:50Ronnie Karam: but a little fall. because the audience is going crazy against bows right now. Well, I mean, part of the audience. And that's when the housewives are like, get her, you know, like there's blood in the water. Let's get her now. So I don't know who knows Beverly Hills, right?

27:05Ben Mandelker: Knows. Look at us in a tizzy over the stupidest shit.

27:08Ronnie Karam: Can we talk about mom talk? You guys, Oh, I don't know if mom talk is going to survive this mom talk has been cray cray lately with everything going on there. Taylor Frankie Paul was the new Bachelorette. They filmed the entire season. Then a video came out. Well, first there were reports that there was another abuse incident against Dakota, her on again, off again, loser. On the Oscars. Right. And so people are like, oh, my God, what'd she do to him this time? Because as you all remember, in season one, the police were called to the house. The whole plot was Taylor was throwing stools at him and, you know, hitting him.

27:48Ronnie Karam: Loose stools. if you will losing her shit at him and that was the plot of that so then this new thing came out and then video was released of the original thing and that was bad i mean we'd all heard the stories we knew what had happened but to see the video of it was like she was really bad grabbing those stools and just throwing them their kid was on the ground you know there's like an arrow in the video pointing like her kid is right here and he's like our kid is right here she throws one stool and he's like our kid is right here and then she picks up another one and you know throws it again or starts swinging it at him or whatever oh my god that video was crazy and so uh a lot of abc and disney was like bye we are canceling this entire season of uh the bachelorette what's yeah

28:43Ben Mandelker: Well, that's a big move. I feel like the last time this happened was with Megan Wants a Millionaire because some guy, someone who got very far in that show, murdered someone. I remember back in 2009 or something. That's a big deal. When the network cancels a signature show with a big network star, that's a big deal. But also ABC, as everyone has been saying, what were you thinking in the first place? I'm sorry. I've only watched season one and a few episodes of season two. And I am like a Miami person being like, I just have to catch up and now I'm too far in the hole and now I'm intimidated. I don't know.

29:17Ben Mandelker: I've got to get back into it. But like the entire franchise started off with these two trash buckets being arrested. Like being arrested or she was being arrested, but they had had some spat or whatever. And I was always like, are we forgetting like that these are two garbage people, you know, that we're following here. And like the whole like it was like nine months later. and like, it's just been this like spin on, I'm back and I'm pregnant now. And like, she just made one bad choice after another, after another. And like, yes, Whitney was the villain that season, but I kept on thinking to my mind.

29:50Ben Mandelker: And Whitney, by the way, has just broken the record on Broadway. I think she beat Ariana's record for Chicago. And I just kept on thinking to myself, I'm going along with the narrative, but I don't really understand why Taylor Frankie Paul is like the hero. She's garbage. And I'm not being like, oh, I already knew. But like the point is like the evidence was there. Why would, like they should not have given her the keys to the bachelorette so like that's just a massive fail on on abc and i think they thought oh we'll be fine we'll sweep that under the under the covers because this is such a big thing for us and now it's really bit them in the butt well and it was um you know it

30:24Ronnie Karam: was one of those like well she did this but she was under stress and now the whole the whole season is her trying to get better the whole the whole series is her getting better and better in theory I'm like, you know, I did that, but I'm working on myself and I go to therapy and then there's all the therapy speak and all that. So I think as an audience, you're like, OK, well, people make mistakes. And this is kind of what reality TV is, right? You watch people do trashy things and then like apologize and get better. At least that's the housewives trajectory, you know, and then you watch them get better and you root for them because we're all flawed and blah, blah, blah.

30:59Ronnie Karam: But, you know, we see signs. Anybody who keeps up with Secret Lives of Mormon Wives. Hi. Haven't watched the last season yet, but I'm about to start tonight. But I watched the first three. And that's, you know, you see glimpses of that cuckoo coming out, you know, like they were at Coachella and some girl talked to him and she freaked out and they weren't even dating. It's like, what's going on, you know? so i don't know but the fact is everybody who's watched that show knows exactly what happened and the fact that everyone is acting shocked now i mean even the audience is acting shocked you knew that she threw the stool and you knew that the stool hit the kid we all heard that in the first season and now people are like oh my god taylor and they're just it's like post after post after post of what a bitch and what a horrible mother and na na na na you guys were rooting for her for four years what's the difference now i can speak as an audience member the difference answering my own question is seeing the videotape it is a lot different to see that you know it is yeah and this

31:59Ben Mandelker: is disney this is disney like it like you like disney does not mess around when it comes to that stuff like there there probably could have been a play where they delayed it and then they have like she goes to rehab and then they interview her and they do a whole thing and what she's learned they probably could have found a way to do it but i think when it comes to disney they're like uh yeah and the timing was so close and was there any talk about how that even got leaked did dakota leak it to sabotage her season do you is that what happens that's what people are thinking like here

32:31Ronnie Karam: her season's about to come out and then suddenly this video comes out you know and that's shitty of him too and while he's filing for restraining orders apparently he's calling the cops and cps all that you know her reps are saying oh he's just being vindictive and he's calling cps all the time to the point where it's just getting to be like a cry wolf situation don't take anything he's saying seriously and you know and of course this leaks right now right when she's about to be happy and um let me just tell you taylor aside that whole show is so fucking dark and i you haven't watched as many seasons as i have and this people were saying why don't you guys cover it and I was like, well, you know, it's hard because they're all released at once.

33:14Ronnie Karam: And by the time we get to episode 10, it's over, right? No one's thinking about it anymore. But let me tell you, that show is so dark. I'm so glad we don't cover it. It's just too much gross shit to talk about. And having to take sides on any of it, not take sides, because some of it are people are obviously victims. But having to discuss it and trying to make stuff like that funny is just not funny. And it doesn't have to be. Like, every show is not made for us. but you know it's just so dark and the relationships are so gross on that show like you have tiny faced little husband of jesse whatever that tiny face little man he's like a face he's like a head but then a tiny face in the middle of the head whatever that guy's name is he's awful he's terrible jesse was kind of a hero yes he filed against her because she said she was going to file against him and then he said you better not do any podcasts or i'm going to sue you and then she went on Nick Vile.

34:08Ronnie Karam: I think it was Nick Vile. She went on something and then so he did file a restraining order against her because now that's just what the guys on that show are going to do. And so that one's gross and then Michaela and her husband separated and then he was with her when she was like 16. Like he got her pregnant when she was 16. He was in his 20s like 21 or 22 or something and I mean it's just. I have to say like it's dark.

34:32Ben Mandelker: I low-key think the gossip coming out of these shows are like it's like to me it's not fun gossip and that's the thing i think one of the reasons why i didn't like immediately binge all of season two as well is because you could already in early season two feel how fame was changing them all and like season one was great they were kind of like still innocent and this is the risk with reality tv and um it's just you you see them all crumbling and and it happens it happens with these shows but it's like i don't know it's just kind of dark and uh commenters are

35:05Ronnie Karam: saying jesse did call her daddy it comes out wednesday okay thank you thank you thank you

35:10Ben Mandelker: because of course got that and they're also basic too that's the thing it's like having to be concerned about gossip about such basic people and i guess i've already just i guess i've already dedicated that to the valley and the world of vanderpump rules so it's just hard to take on something else you know but i am i actually still do aspire to watch it i watched season one i loved I loved it. I love it. It's just, the truth is to circle back to what you said is that Bravo has a lot of stuff on. If God, if this, if this show had come out like over last summer when there was like nothing on, it would have been a godsend for us.

35:42Ben Mandelker: But like Bravo has a lot of shit on and a lot of it's really good. And like, we honestly just don't have the bandwidth. Like it just, just comes down to simple bandwidth to cover that show or, and then you add in all the reasons that you brought up. It's just too hard. And like, are, am I going to like, despite everything, despite how much we shit on Beverly Hills, we don't cover Beverly Hills and we cover secret lives of Mormon wives. Instead, people will have a fit. Anytime we like don't cover any show, people have a fit. And understandably, because these shows are all really good. And just like, like what you have to, you know, you just have to make your choices.

36:18Ronnie Karam: Yeah. But wow. What a show. And then, you know, now, of course I've got to go watch season four, which is on right now. and let's talk about how whitney has made this turned into a hero also i mean i saw it last season that started to happen but still a hero so gotta watch okay go ahead um yes by the way

36:37Ben Mandelker: in the comments catherine says uh that rhode island starts next week and we heard that rhode island is amazing but then again people you know people will hype shit but like that's what we

36:48Ronnie Karam: heard we know it's amazing we saw the previews there's no way that show is not going to be amazing unless they found miraculously i mean it doesn't even it's not even what they showed the people on it look hysterical also atlanta is coming back very soon by the way yes i agree

37:05Ben Mandelker: um atlanta's coming back very soon cynthia kept telling us like oh this season's like crazy um but uh the reason why i'm bringing up atlanta right now is that there was this the internet just did weird internet things this weekend you know sometimes the internet just you never know what that like what that let that like that bingo cage is gonna pull out and this time marlo hampton went to like a luncheon with tyler perry and someone used ai to make it seem like they were making out and then the internet was like are tyler perry and marlo hampton a thing and then people like it's a lavender marriage and then you're like really but lavender but like why would he choose marlo hampton of all people and that's like well it does make sense like Like Marlo would go for Tyler Perry.

37:51Ben Mandelker: And then it became a whole thing. And then I didn't even realize it was Marlo because she looked totally different. And then like there was like, there were several hours there where I think the internet was thinking like, is this a good thing or is it a bad thing that Marlo and Tyler Perry are together? And then finally it was revealed. It was just, it was all fake.

38:09Ronnie Karam: That was fake? Yeah, yeah. Look. Girl, I believe that. Like I believe those babies doing housewives.

38:17Ben Mandelker: housewives looking on our document you seen that one i believed it i was like they got some really

38:21Ronnie Karam: talented babies to reenact these housewives scenes i was like these are great someone's like you idiot those are ai i was like that's ai oh my god ai's gotten so good i was like these babies are

38:32Ben Mandelker: such good actors i'm literally this tyler perry is i have to imagine constantly going to events with various women at different times who decided you know what marlo hampton is the one i'm going and manipulate with AI to make it seem like she's...

38:48Ronnie Karam: It makes sense that he would do that. First of all, he's in so much trouble with sexual harassment claims brought against him by men. He's in a lot of trouble with that stuff. He really is. And every gay loves a housewife. And Marlo loves a billionaire that she doesn't really have to fuck. We've known that about Marlo for years. I mean, that's Marlo's storyline. So to me, it all made sense. I was like, I'm into this story.

39:12Ben Mandelker: Yeah, I was really excited. I also was like, if this is Tyler Perry's way of shooting down gay rumors, he has sorely, sorely misplayed this one. Like nothing could make you seem gayer than to make out with a real housewife of Atlanta.

39:28Ronnie Karam: It's like, wow. Tyler Perry is finally with someone hot. Liza Minnelli. It's like, oh no.

39:36Ben Mandelker: He's the new David Guest. You know what? Let Tyler Perry be allegedly in the closet because he keeps putting in the hottest men in his projects. And if that is the way he has to get his kicks, then we all benefit, don't we? So good for him.

39:54Ronnie Karam: Allegedly. This comment from Airfan on Instagram says, also, Rhode Island has some of the most strangely corrupt politics in all history. Last winter, I drove under a salt-degraded overpass held up by wooden planks. I was like, wow, Rhode Island is still mafia. Yeah. Yeah, it is.

40:14Ben Mandelker: One of the, uh, one of the, uh, women that I went to Norway with, remember I went on my, this, I went, for those who don't know, back in May, I went on a culinary tour in Norway and guess what? I'm going to go back again. Cause I had so much fun, but I went on a culinary tour. So it was just like me and like, you know, people in their 60s and their 70s and 80s, actually, it's just, you know, I was the young and of the group. Yeah. It's our people. And, uh, one of them was a lady who I adored, who was from Rhode Island. she's very, very, like a very, like she's just not someone who's going to watch our shows.

40:46Ben Mandelker: And then she was like, oh, by the way, uh, they were filming a real housewives of Rhode Island scene in the restaurant I was in the other night. And I thought you should know. And I was like, God bless it. God bless. God bless the exposure. You just got Kristen. You are living the life. But I guess the story had no point. I just thought it was funny that this like older academic lady was subjected to like exposure to real housewives of Rhode Island. yeah commercials here comes one right now man sometimes sheets like they pile up or they start

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44:30Ronnie Karam: But I think this is a bad move for Mark. They're not going to choose Margaret over Teresa. Teresa's been on there forever.

44:37Ben Mandelker: I think she's already, I think Margaret, I think she's going to be out because I forgot to put this link in. You saw that they came up with this cast for kind of like Real Housewives Ultimate Girls Trip, but like from Amazon. Did you see this? Margaret's in it. Okay, let me find it. Margaret Joseph's. I was like, oh, the moment I saw this, I was like, oh, she's not doing New Jersey because, okay, here it is. I'm going to add it to the document. You see where my cursor is? We're very professional.

45:07Ronnie Karam: Sure, yeah, I see your cursor. And I'll start reading it.

45:11Ben Mandelker: Yeah, okay.

45:11Ronnie Karam: What color is the cursor?

45:14Ben Mandelker: Yours is like magenta. I'd love it. Love that for me. Yeah. Okay, go ahead. so according to reality tea kenya moore and margaret joseph's confirmed for new amazon reality show full cast revealed kenya moore margaret joseph's and the real house franchise have been confirmed for a new amazon show the two bravo alums will be joined with other reality television personalities for a new travel special film the dominican republic so uh kim zolciak caitlin bristow jen tran um will be on it but also britney cartwright tamar braxton christine Quinn from, you know, Selling Sunset, Hilaria Baldwin, Julie Chrisley, Savannah Chrisley.

45:54What?

45:56Ben Mandelker: It's like a mishmash. So, I don't know. And the picture, yeah, I don't know. I don't know. But I have to say, if this is happening, I can't imagine Bravo will be happy with it. And I think if it's true, then I think Margaret has now said, I've got to make my money now. So. Yeah.

46:16Ronnie Karam: Okay. Well, that's sad.

46:17Ben Mandelker: We'll see. I would love Margaret to come back. I think Margaret is a great housewife. I know there are people who feel that she's very nasty and vindictive, to which I say, who isn't on these shows, to be honest? But I really do think that she's so smart and she's so quick and she's very funny. And I just love that in A Real Housewife. So I say bring back Margaret.

46:42Ronnie Karam: yeah bring back margaret i love margaret too um okay so in other fake internet news the internet really you really can't trust anything you read because i was literally upset over this i was i was no legitimately i guess i should say not literally i was legit upset about this when i read rumors that amanda batula was hooking up with west gross gross gross i will not respect anyone who hooks up with west that's it i just won't do it okay i have been able to watch this show and you all have been able to watch this show and if you still hook up with west i won't respect you that's it we both have the same evidence so there were rumors going around that amid her separation from kyle cook amanda's been hooking up with west um super pissed then i read that it's not true at all in us magazine um she's going out with friends a source tells us doesn't mean they're together.

47:39Ronnie Karam: According to the insider, Cook hasn't been seriously dating either since they parted ways, but he tends to be a big flirt and enjoys meeting new people while touring. And we saw that in action. He, in fact, does. Those guys on Bravo are swarmed. We've seen it every time we're with a guy on Bravo. They are so warm. When I tell you swarmed by hot women in their 20s, really all women, but especially women in their early young 20s in midriffs and tiny little skirts. I'm like, where did you even come from? You can be in a restaurant where everybody is 60, okay? Everybody is 60 and homely. And you walk in with one of those guys, and suddenly everyone around you is 25 and hot as hell.

48:27Ronnie Karam: And showing they don't own jackets in the middle of winter. Where did you even come from?

48:35Ben Mandelker: yeah it's wild it's wild i'm to that effect by the way are people going to go see jesse solomon's musical tour i'm curious i would love to hear what the audience is saying like are they going to that i'm not i'm not please i'm not please i'm not but i'm curious if other people will uh because you know people always act like oh jesse's so gross now but they did they said the same thing about sandoval then everyone went and saw sandoval's like you know wandering circus so i was curious will people be seeing it well yeah looks like looks like there's not even any sort of like kitsch value i will say this for sandoval's credit when he went touring around he was so over the top and ridiculous that you kind of felt like i gotta see this disaster but with jesse he's just going around doing lounge music and i'm like oh i don't i don't think there's any upside for anyone going to it yeah agreed i don't i don't

49:29Ronnie Karam: need that in my life now i would go see the guy who imitates jesse i think he's really funny i only saw one instagram but i thought it was perfect i would go see him do something but not the actual jesse no yeah oh my gosh oh i just speaking of atlanta which we're not anymore but we were speaking about it earlier i saw k michelle on sherry shepherd she was with a couple of the other girls dissing drew and it was pretty funny i have high hopes for her on atlanta sherry was I was asking her, so what is the, you know, what's the deal I heard you and Drew are fighting? And she's like, well, I just want to say it's not what Drew would like you to think it's about, which is music.

50:06Ronnie Karam: Because I would never, you know, argue with a beginner in the music industry. And, you know, I'm real. I have gone on tours, I've got gold albums, and I'm not going to be fighting with someone who can't sing, basically. It just kept going on and on. And I loved it.

50:26Ben Mandelker: Drew Sedoro is oddly not very featured in the Atlanta trailer. Something that was trending on Twitter in general today was how the Atlanta trailer sort of came and went without causing much of a stir. But I think that's because there's just bigger stirs happening right now. But Drew was barely even in it to the point where I thought, is Drew on this season? Is she demoted? So it'll be interesting to see what's going to be happening. People want to talk about TomTom, which is another thing. Oh, yeah. An eagle-eyed person on the internet noted that TomTom and its assets are up for sale. So it's like, I guess it's the bar, maybe some licenses, maybe alcohol, booze license, whatever.

51:13Ronnie Karam: They said the intellectual property is of cost to buy the TomTom intellectual property. I can't believe they're legally even allowed to call that when it involves the two Toms.

51:24Ben Mandelker: I think it's just called property at that point I think it's called embarrassing we're selling the embarrassing property we're selling the echoey cavern between their ears property I think this is very sad I actually think Tom Tom was the best of the Vanderpump spots in LA I think that what I've heard and you know maybe better because you've worked in the industry. What I've heard is that when you have like one restaurant that's not doing well, it starts to drag the entire place, everything down. And I'm wondering, I'm wondering like if, I wonder if Lisa's businesses are really not doing well over in West Hollywood.

52:10Ben Mandelker: It's,

52:10Ronnie Karam: I don't know how much is doing well over there because we were just over there a couple of weeks ago and it was granted, you know, we were there on a weeknight. It's dead over there. It is dead. And I was there on a weekend. I think like the following weekend, I was there again with some friends and it was some of the bars were busy, but those weren't. Those were those are dead. And they're just kind of tourist traps of something that's just not in anymore. You know, like who cares about Tom or Tom right now? No, yeah, go to their bars.

52:39Ben Mandelker: They're probably consolidating to put all the resources into Sir Roe back up from the beginning. The Vegas things are going strong, focusing on Vanderpump Villa kind of stuff. But yeah, I mean, Sir can continue to go on. There's a fresh crop of kids there that are working there that, you know, will draw people in. But Tom and Tom, Sandoval, what is Sandoval doing these days? He's now just doing the post-fame reality tour.

53:06Ronnie Karam: I think he was doing villains, wasn't he? House of Villains. House of Villains.

53:11Ben Mandelker: But now he's just on that tour where he's just going from show to show. He had like a little like moment on the Traders, which was really good for him. got him out of the doghouse with a lot of people and then but but like he's essentially peaked and like tom tom i think just does not have the excitement and schwartz is still current he's on the valley and he has this podcast but we all know schwartz is not going to be the appeal there so

53:34Ronnie Karam: yeah you know lvp is doing so well in vegas and everywhere else that she is i mean she has her new hotel opening i just saw the pictures of the new hotel and it's very lisa it's like oh Enjoy your pink room, your soft pink room with Nicolene chandeliers inside of cages, inside of chandeliers, inside of cages, inside of chandeliers, inside of cages. So it's very much that. But she's got multiple restaurants there. I mean, she's doing fine. She's probably like just pull out. And these restaurants, she's not putting the same investment. I mean, I think TomTom, that was her restaurant, right? I mean, I'm not saying she didn't have any partners.

54:11But for the most part, she was putting money into that.

54:14Ronnie Karam: And I think these she's just like getting licensing money from, you know, which is better. I kind of wish we really enjoyed the new Vanderpump Rules season one. It didn't do very well, but we enjoyed it. But I do wish that they had kind of pivoted and just shown like the new era, Lisa Vanderpump Las Vegas and watch all of those messy because, you know, those people are messier than the WeHo people.

54:37Ben Mandelker: Yeah. But apparently the show did extremely well on Peacock. And I think that's what apparently Bravo cares a lot about is doing well on Peacock. So I guess I guess it did well on Peacock. But that being said, I mean, there's no way to know.

54:53Ronnie Karam: That's the thing about Peacock.

54:54Ben Mandelker: There's no way to know. And when we popped in there and they were doing like a viewing party on a Tuesday night during the season, like you said, it was like. It definitely was not there. It was.

55:05Ronnie Karam: It was. Yeah,

55:07Ben Mandelker: it was a little.

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