#3277: Summer House S10E8 Part One: Old Man (Cry Me a) River

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3:20Ben Mandelker: Okay. Sounds like a great time. Sounds like a great thing to do. So today is the big Summer House episode that Andy hyped up as the worst Kyle Cook episode of all time. And what's so funny is that when I watched it, I was like, oh, Kyle's being terrible. And then in my mind, I thought, is this the worst? Haven't we seen worse? Is it the worst? And then I thought, that's really bad. That's really bad that you watch this and think like, no, but I'm pretty sure there was an episode. It's like, oh, you realize like between this and Winter House, there were so many bad episodes for Kyle.

3:52Ronnie Karam: So many. And, you know, you're right, because Andy was like, well, the worst of all time. Kyle wears a, you know, I don't know, bomb vest. Like, it was, like, really bad. And it is just more of Kyle. It was just that, wow. I mean, you call your wife a fucking bitch and then don't stop and then just keep. I mean, it's Kyle. It's a Kyle episode, guys. But, yeah, I do think it is worse because he just wouldn't let up. And then you see kind of Amanda just crying and him still not letting up or taking any responsibility. and it's girl just leave that man leave that man leave him there's a another post on reddit today of like kyle hanging out with you know 22 year old hot girls in the middle of the night shit face so shit face he can't even talk like the man is a mess it's time to step away you know

4:37Ben Mandelker: yeah yeah yeah i mean it's i was really i was really happy that sierra was like basically saying they need to separate it's time i'm glad that they are now at a place where they of verbalizing it. I'm glad that it's actually what happens in real life too because it's just not healthy. Kyle should never be talking to his wife that way. I think they're both like I'm not trying to be like both sides both sides. I think they are both in a toxic loop. I think it's very obvious. I think she does give jabs. I think that he is inattentive. I think then therefore she's inattentive in response because she's like what the fuck and it is pretty rich when you see him complaining about how Amanda doesn't pay attention to him when he's then out on the road as a dj so they're just contributing to this like awful situation it's very chicken and egg but i think that like kyle is i think kyle has been like pretty like i'm trying to think of the right word is the word terrible

5:37Ronnie Karam: horrible it's been fucking horrible terrible fucking horrible fucking monster yeah leave him

5:42Ben Mandelker: i mean like what i was like what's the what's the word that truly captures it i think just I think that he is being very, very needy all of a sudden, um, while simultaneously not seeming to give that same energy back for Amanda on the show. So,

5:59Ronnie Karam: yeah, that's just a bad couple, but then to hear her crying and saying like, well, you know, I just don't know that I can do any better. And that's just so heartbreaking to hear that. And we've all felt that. I mean, I've felt that God knows, you know, um, and that's not a good thing to feel, but no, You'll have to kind of get yourself unstuck from that because nobody can do that for you. Even if you can't do better, you can't do worse. You know what I mean? Yeah, there you go. That's kind of how I turned it around in my own head. Like, maybe I can't do better, but I certainly can't do worse. See you, loser.

6:32Ben Mandelker: Yeah. And Amanda just, Amanda needs some time, I think, to be single because I just don't think she really had that. I think 24 is really early. I mean, obviously she got to be single for a few years, but like 24 is early, you know, she went through her entire twenties with Kyle and in your twenties, you still believe in things like being able to fix people. And so she needs to like go back into the dating world, knowing that she can't fix people and knowing that, you know, whoever she's with, she's got to meet them where they're at and they have to meet her where she's at. And that's where you're hopefully going to find your connection and not hoping that you will come together because there's a lot of good things on paper and then aspire to get to that place where you have that connection.

7:13Ben Mandelker: So, yeah, I mean, I believe that she loves him, and I believe that he loves her, but it requires more than just that. And there's just a, as you've said a million times, as I've said, compatibility is the main issue. They're just not a compatible couple.

7:29Ronnie Karam: So we open up at Kisaki, the restaurant, and that's where they were last week. But now we're not going to have a discussion there. We already had it last week. So now we're going to go party. Let's go. fake out because i'll keep fake out so they go dance and uh twerk at a bar people are still

7:47Ben Mandelker: twerking huh someone's like yeah the the uh the big dance move that we see on this episode is falling over onto the floor we see like kj falls onto the floor and then later then they go back home and dance some more and then they all keep falling on the floor and it's like i guess that's is that the thing is that what the kids are doing just throwing themselves onto the

8:06Ronnie Karam: floors you twerk and then you fall down because your butt bone hurts you're like ow i twerked old people twerking now so um lindsey comes home and goes to bed but then the rest of the cast comes back and of course kyle runs straight to the dj booth in the living room because he wants to be the center of attention and dj and nobody cares okay i do not want to hear you djing i don't care press go go put your your fucking airpods in everyone is not your prisoner to sit there and listen to your shitty dj set all night okay it's so annoying it's like someone who is it's like me if i had you over and was like hey i'm gonna sing at the piano all night nobody wants that do that shit i would like that shit on your own no you wouldn't it's annoying as hell and people like that need to stop it they need to be stopped okay yeah this is very much like birthday boy

8:57Ben Mandelker: has his toys and so they're dancing and they by the way they go and they dance they have fun They're fooling around and stuff. But like, it's also the end of the night. People, everyone's drunk. They want to do their own thing. They want to loaf about. It's the summer. They want to go to the pool. And so, you know, people are dancing, having fun. But eventually it's okay. So let's, I'm looking at the timestamps here when they get home. So they get home at around 12, 38 a.m. But by 1.02 a.m., Kyle is now alone. Everyone went outside. So they danced for like 20 minutes. I think that's like way more than you can expect.

9:32Ben Mandelker: considering that they were already out. They already danced. They already got drunk. People are now in their denouement. Whoa, they're in their denouement, okay? They just want to go to the pool. They got some pool noodles. They're going to take some laps, okay? I'm sorry. But like, you know, bro, like you're not going to, people don't want to sit here and listen to your remixes until two in the morning in this like this mildly lit living room area. It's like not a clock.

10:00Ronnie Karam: cardboard cutouts everywhere that are freaking me out. Like that joke's over too. Get rid of them. So this is where it all begins because he is alone in the DJ booth and it's sad. There's like those party city streamers everywhere. And he's just like all bummed that nobody's listening to him DJ and everybody else is at the pool. Okay. Stop holding everybody hostage. Okay. And go out to the pool and hang out with everybody. It's one of those things like you're not doing what I want you to do. So everybody's ignoring me. No, you're ignoring everybody else by being a sad sack and staying inside at your stupid pioneer machine you dumbass so they're having fun outside and amanda's like what if i just jumped in the pool and ben's like do it do it so they're like having like let's push each other in so they're doing that stuff and um meanwhile kyle's still in the dj room alone and he just turns the music off and he's all upset he's like well there's nobody wants to hear it and i had some tv credit to play but whatever i'm just all alone in this world

10:59Ben Mandelker: yeah i mean look have i ever had a drunk pity party for myself hell yes have i had a sober one yes so i like get it i've definitely been like sometimes things hit you in a way you're like it's my birthday and no one's like people should want to be like inviting me out to the pool like i get that but also just like go out to the pool and be with everyone you know like you like and And also if people, by the way, by the way, take the note, which is maybe the music you're playing is not good enough. And everyone left the room. Okay. Take the note and see how you can improve for next time.

11:34Ronnie Karam: If you're in a group of people and you're in a party house and everybody else is partying in a different room, but you're partying in a room all by yourself to blame. Everybody else is crazy. That's legitimately crazy. Okay. And if you feel like that, not you personally, but anybody in the audience is in a situation like that, you're the wrong one for being in that room. Go into the other room. If they ignore you in the other room, then you can cry to me. But you can't cry when you're the one in the different room. So he's crying. He's being a baby. And he's like, I just want to curl up in a ball.

12:05Ronnie Karam: I just want to curl up in a ball and die. Amanda laughing. She's laughing. She's having a blast with Jesse and Wes and Ben. I'm just, like, literally all by myself because they ditched me. And, like, I don't know how I'll still explain it. It's like, I feel isolated and alone by my wife. Well, she probably feels isolated and alone because you can't get away from your fucking Pioneer machine. Drop the machine, bro. It's one in the morning. Nobody wants to hear it.

12:28Ben Mandelker: Yeah, and again, you're the one who's going out on the road and DJing and then staying out with the fans until late at night while Amanda's at home. And then you're going to complain that you feel left alone. They brought you home from the club. Last time I checked, they made sure you got back to the house.

12:43Ronnie Karam: And then you make it even worse. they're outside having fun so now you don't get attention inside and so now you have to take a bluetooth speaker outside to blast your music at everybody you are not i don't it makes me crazy when people play other people's music and act like they made this music it's it makes you nuts like everybody want to hear my music it's not your music okay it's robin now stop it stop taking

13:07Ben Mandelker: credit for robin you did not make this yeah yeah like just cut your losses people are just not in the mood to dance don't take it personally and just join them and have fun you know so uh then so he's dancing by himself and amanda's like guys we should go to bed because we have a big day tomorrow and sierra's like yeah that's fine and so kyle's like oh but hey hey amanda she's like what way to support me kyle you're not doing a gig you are not like performing at the pool

13:41Ronnie Karam: with dj maddie reese it's a bluetooth speaker stop it she's like what but i'm supportive and he goes no you're not wait did kyle just say amanda least supportive wife in the world he's like i'm fucking believable fuck you amanda fuck you so he says fuck you and everyone's like

13:59Ben Mandelker: oh my god because it's like you should well you should really shouldn't say it to anyone

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17:42Ronnie Karam: just gonna go to bed and we're just gonna act like nothing happened and we're gonna all celebrate Kyle's birthday tomorrow, okay? And Sierra's like, yeah, you can't just say fuck you to your wife. And Wes is like, yeah, I'm going to talk to him. And Amanda's like, no, please don't. And she's like, you know what? I don't want this to be a thing. You know, I just, and his birthday party tomorrow, we'll just have fun and enjoy ourselves. Like, it is what it is. We don't have to talk about it.

18:05Ben Mandelker: She's like, what's the point? Literally, what's the point of talking about this? It's only going to make things worse. And he's not going to take accountability. He's not going to apologize for what he did. And I know that it's wrong. And the way he speaks to me, I know it's wrong. I'm fully aware. I'm not okay with it. I just know that having a conversation about it isn't going to go anywhere, which is sad that she's just resigned to be like, I would rather just ignore it and just move forward than have to deal with another empty discussion that will not move the needle on our relationship.

18:38Ronnie Karam: Well, you're talking to a drunk. You're talking to a person who's shit-faced and throwing his shit. It's like we see it all the time with parents. in a restaurant when their kid is having a fit and they're just sitting there not doing anything. And in our minds, it's like, how can you not do anything? Your kid is sitting there throwing a fit, throwing food, calling you a bitch probably, whatever that two year old is up to. And you just see that look in their eyes and it's the same look Amanda has. It's like, they're two, what can I possibly do? Like they're two, they're wasted, they're calling me a bitch.

19:10Ronnie Karam: That's just what they do at this age. Kyle just, I mean, Amanda has that look in her eyes. It's like, he's two. Like, what do you guys, do you really think I'm going to have a conversation with that? I've been dealing with this his whole life. Maybe he'll get better when he starts preschool.

19:25Ben Mandelker: Yeah, seriously. So Ben goes up to Kyle and he's like, hey, Kyle, you walked past and said, fuck you out of nowhere. He goes, well, that's how I felt. I mean, I don't know if you pick up on it. Like, how much did you see Amanda talking to me today? Like, she said five words to me all night long. And he's like, but what did you say to her? I said, well, I said, fuck you.

19:48Ronnie Karam: Didn't you hear that? That's me trying to make an effort. I said, fuck you.

19:52Ben Mandelker: As much as she talked to her. Well, but she was hanging out with all of us all night. Not me, though.

19:58Ronnie Karam: Not me, though.

19:59Ben Mandelker: Yeah, but where were you? Where were you? Well, she was in my arms, and I was looking into her eyes and enjoying the way the moonlight just reflected off of her lips. Where were you during that, Kyle?

20:10Ronnie Karam: And Kyle can't say, I was at the DJ stand, but nobody wanted to listen to me. because that's what he really means because i think that's what this whole thing is about so instead he's like i do get shut down no it is get shut down

20:21Ben Mandelker: no you literally do not get shut down so um west goes into amanda's room and uh she's like going through it and she's trying to sort of keep it together but uh he asks if she's okay and he's like god objectively like nothing happened for that reaction it's just so bizarre to me and she's like yeah thanks and then she just starts to cry and he's like i mean that's like the first time i've ever seen something where like a hundred percent unprovoked he was just like so rude like and the other times he's been like rude but like i guess semi-provoked or like just minorly provoked so i didn't say anything but this time 100 so i'll actually say something well that's like a

21:01Ronnie Karam: calm version of kyle like that's tame you know and he's like geez she goes i know i'm not perfect But I've literally been dealing with this for like 10 years. I mean, isn't that crazy? And, you know, there's part of me that thinks, like, is this the best I'm ever going to do? And, I mean, he does love me so much. And I don't know. I know it's constantly making excuses for Kyle. And she's crying. And, by the way, we don't really see any of this, right? Isn't this all kind of in a bedroom?

21:27Ben Mandelker: Yeah. Like, there's a lot of, like, sort of security cam footage here or just, like, stationary cameras.

21:32Ronnie Karam: Yeah. The foyer is doing a lot of heavy lifting this episode.

21:35Ben Mandelker: Big times. big time, big time so Kyle walks into the bedroom, by the way Salt Lake City could learn a tip or two about just installing some GoPros and letting them roll all night because see they would have missed this, so Kyle walks in and he's just, he walks into the bedroom and he's just like, he's like, uh, Amanda and then he walks out of the room Wes walks out, so he goes up to Kyle and he's like hey, um, go say you're sorry, and like, cause like nothing happened outside, you just like walk by and he said, fuck you for no reason And he's like, wow, she gave me the fuck you eyes, which is like tenuous at best.

22:11Ben Mandelker: Like, what are you talking about? Like, that's like the worst excuse to ever pop off on your wife. I mean, you should have. There's no excuse to ever pop off on your wife. But that's just bad. Now you're just projecting some shit onto her.

22:21Ronnie Karam: No, she didn't, Kyle. He's like, all right, all right, all right. I'm sorry. All right, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. So he goes to the bathroom where Amanda is. I'm just like, hey, I'm just washing up for bed. He's like, I am sorry for saying fuck you. I just don't feel like you paid attention to me. No, that's not sorry, Kyle. When you say, fuck you, but it's your fault. He's like, but I just don't feel like you paid attention to me. And she's just like, okay. I mean, I just don't feel like you're making the effort with me.

22:48Ben Mandelker: She's like, what would you define as making an effort? And P.S. don't forget, we are throwing you a party tomorrow that I'm organizing. But what would you define as making an effort? He's like, conversing, talking. so then Wes goes up to Ben's room and he's like bro she just cried to me for like 20 minutes and that's like fuck that's like not good and he's like well I don't know I just don't understand where it came from wow even late at night I get applause just for being a model

23:20Ronnie Karam: well with friends like I've definitely been like conflict avoidant but like you know I've got no choice in this situation to be part of the Kyle and Amanda mix because we live together, you know? And I care about them. And, like, if Kyle's being a dickhead, like, I don't know who has Amanda's back. I'm just a boy. So then Amanda and Kyle are still talking. And she's like, well, when we're all out, like, would you expect me to be, like, hanging out with everyone? He's like, yeah, but, like, instead of me, like, you're hanging out with all of my friends. Like, what about maybe just hanging out with me?

23:52Ronnie Karam: Kyle, you did not want to hang out. You wanted people to listen to you DJ. Stop pretending this is about Amanda. You're upset because no one liked your performance.

23:59Ben Mandelker: Yeah. She goes, so you want me to hang out with you while you're hanging out with all the random people? That's what you want? She's like, no, I'm only hanging out with strangers because you literally ignore me. She's like, no, no, no. That's just what you just said. I don't know. I'm just letting you know how it is. That's all. Okay, Kyle, let me know how it is. So then we go back upstairs, and West and Ben are still talking, and West is like, I'm going to go check it back out. Wish me luck.

24:26Ronnie Karam: And then in the bathroom, he goes, you're a fucking dumbass bitch and she goes oh yeah i'm a dumbass bitch kyle great and weston benner in the hallway and so she passes them and and they hear that obviously and she's like yeah i'm just a dumbass bitch i got i guess i'll go make some soda water i'm fine guys whatever and he's in there alone now in the bathroom alone just going you ignored me all night long with our friends you prefer our friends over me shit i prefer the friends over you you're an ass

24:55Ben Mandelker: yeah and again like your argument falls apart because you go out across the country djing and you have amanda here saying like it's like i support you djing but then you don't even come home you go out to like four in the morning and this and even before the djing even happened the ongoing thing is that he would go get drunk until four in the morning and now he's going to complain that she prefers being with other people over him when he's been doing that to her for

25:20Ronnie Karam: years so ben goes into i guess work the soda stream with amanda or something is it a soda stream they're working it's like well they said he's gonna make soda but it didn't look like a

25:30Ben Mandelker: soda stream there's some contraption or some weird late night you know carbonated experience

25:37Ronnie Karam: they were having so ben's like well i've known him for a year we've hung out at brunch i've never seen anything i mean this side of him god i've never seen that i know he's stressed with lover boy and i think sometimes amanda just likes to push his buttons and that keeps building to a tipping point and then there's a excuse you excuse you sir you know and then we see a montage of amanda like pushing his buttons i mean shut up kyle you know and as amanda said she's never perfect blah blah blah she didn't do any of that today and even if she did nothing excuses this that makes me crazy that ben said this i don't like that he said this like she just pushes him until he explodes like what the fuck but he does end it with you know nothing i've seen warrants a

26:21Ben Mandelker: blow up like that yeah and again i mean i they again they have a toxic way of communicating like he i feel like is ignores her or he gets drunk and he is really obnoxious and then her way of responding is that she takes these little digs at him you know and that does happen but that's almost immaterial in this situation because this was unprovoked completely unprovoked and it was just awful. It's just a terrible thing to say to your life partner. So Ben's like, don't worry, West. I'm going to go have a talk with him and I'll say, listen, Kyle, I understand things are difficult with you and Amanda.

26:56Ben Mandelker: And if you'd like, I'll take it off your hands and then maybe the two of us can just spend the rest of the summer skinny dipping in the pool out back. What do you say, bro?

27:05Ronnie Karam: So West is talking to Kyle and Kyle's like, she's spent more time with you than me in the last six months. Kyle, you haven't been home for six months.

27:13Ben Mandelker: Yeah. Yeah. What does she even, what does

27:15Ronnie Karam: even talking about and then so in the kitchen amanda's just gonna go to bed and then west is still trying to talk to kyle which is pointless you know you can't talk to kyle when he's like this just wait till the next day when he's sober because this is stupid you can't talk to a drunk person and west is like yeah but tonight we were at the bar and he's like oh yeah there's always like a fucking fuck you kyle so i said it and goes no you said fuck you to her and she's like no i said fuck you back no but she didn't say fuck you to you uh-huh it's always a fuck you Kyle. No, this isn't your head, Kyle.

27:44Ronnie Karam: She said it with her eyes.

27:47Ben Mandelker: He hates me. Amanda hates me. She doesn't talk to me. I'll sleep in another bed. I don't give a fuck. If you all don't fucking see the fact that she fucking hates me, then I'm sorry. Then I'm like, I don't know. I'm blind. I'm sorry. Wes is like, well, don't apologize to me. I'm just telling you that that shit's not going to help. He's like, I just, I give up. She fucking hates me. And by the way, during all this time, Amanda, like they're talking in the bathroom and Amanda's back in her bed. So

28:12Ronnie Karam: shit yeah and if amanda does hate you i hate you at this point like what's wrong with you like i wouldn't blame i don't blame her for hating you jesus if this is just what you show on tv what do you like when the cameras aren't there you know absolutely so west leaves the bathroom and um he goes in to say i love you to amanda and she's like i'm sorry and we still hear kyle in the bathroom He fucking hates me He fucking hates me It's like making out with his JBL speaker Like Please have you Play Robin again

28:45Ben Mandelker: I'm so fucking over this shit Well now guess what It's Saturday morning It's 8.55 in the morning Everyone's waking up And it's like last night never even happened Lindsay FaceTimes Gemma And then Kyle is on his phone in bed While Amanda sleeps And then Kyle tells us there's no excuse to you know drop the F-bomb and say F you to your wife but I'm only

29:08Ronnie Karam: human I'll make one where I go that's my key to make

29:12Ben Mandelker: here's the excuse there's no excuse but why not give it a college try I can only go so long getting the cold shoulder you know getting them small but steady jabs I used to think it was all in my head until I've watched some of these summers back and then we have a flashback to you know a nice healthy montage of Amanda shitting on Kyle for sure. So he's like, yeah, man, it's hard.

29:36Ronnie Karam: It's hard for me, man. Yeah, he's like, yeah, but now I pick up on these jabs in real time and it doesn't even matter if we're having a good night. I still get jabbed and it's just been piling up and piling up. Who does this sound like? Exactly like Craig from Southern. Exactly. It's the same things. But they keep poking me. They just keep poking me, poking the bear and it piles up and it piles up and then I explode. It's not my fault. It's everybody else all the time. And the fact that you could watch summer house seasons back and come away with everything is Amanda's fault is crazy. Like, yeah, that's the thing that shows zero self-awareness.

30:16Ben Mandelker: Yeah, absolutely. And so, I mean, it's one thing if you're in a funk, but if you're having a blast with everybody, but me is just sad. so then uh jesse thinks are nicer and jesse and west's room jesse's like love you it's like i love you too that was it and then we go to the kitchen and kj is texting dara because she's coming in today for the party and he's like hey can't wait to see you the vibes are excitement are you on your way and dara's like yeah see you soon i'm dara and then um i'm gonna bully you

30:50Ronnie Karam: but in a fun way so then we go to jesse and carl and amanda's room and um they're gonna go work out the boys are gonna go work out and um jesse's like good morning pineapple and she laughs and carl goes wait that's all you have to do to make her smile and more and i just gotta fuck you eyes i just gotta fuck you eyes benedict hey look at me it's carl now though on the first floor i can

31:13Ben Mandelker: walk into this room also and do a fun little dance i'm in the mix afterwards we're gonna go to common ground i'll do those dance for more than more people so um the guys go to the gym and then

31:26Ronnie Karam: me and sierra talking in their bed about the conversation at last at the last dinner um about you know living as a black person on reality tv and um she's like you know i'm really happy you brought that conversation up you know it was needed how do you feel and sierra's like i'm surprised i didn't cry more um you know she talks about how she gets a no we saw the flashback to the conversation and me is like you know i appreciate everybody in the house just letting you talk and holding space for the conversation and not interjecting and saying like oh i know what that feels like you know because you don't just actually it's pretty impressive if you think about it for a reality has to be able to just sit there and listen and not be like yeah i understand You know, a lot of times people leave me mean comments about DJing, too.

32:15Ronnie Karam: Like Amanda. Amanda does it.

32:18Ben Mandelker: We call those aggressions. A lot of blowback when you're a DJ. People just don't understand. They don't understand what you're up to. I had to have a conversation when I was younger. The conversation was sometimes there'll come a day when you will be DJing and people will walk out of the room and you have to be okay with it. It's a tough time for me as well, Sierra. so Sierra's like Mia's saying like yeah we can sit here and be like this conversation's gonna change the way we look at things and not you know and everyone else's world but it's not and so Mia's like Mia's just very appreciative that Sierra approached this conversation so it was a nice like follow up conversation about the conversation and they're just happy that at least they know they're like well we're not gonna necessarily change the world with that conversation but like It's just nice to know that the people that we live with can understand our experience.

33:11Ronnie Karam: Yeah. So then outside Amanda and Lindsay are in the kitchen. KJ's swimming. And Amanda and Lindsay are in the kitchen talking. And they're talking about how Lindsay got her sweatpants from Amanda. And they're like such good friends now. They can't believe it. And Amanda's like, yeah, what about you and Carl last night? That was fun. And then we see Lindsay being like, yeah, well, I said you should date Carl. Like, he may not ever fuck you, but, like, at least he can have a conversation with you. See, I'm nice.

33:42Ben Mandelker: I love every time you say, see, I'm nice. Like, oh, she is. Like, that's my friend. She's so nice. Lindsay's like, uh-huh. Well, how was the rest of your night? Did anything fun happen? And she's like, uh. And then we go back up to Sierra's room. And Mia's like, you know, we had such a long day yesterday. Like, I left the hot tub. I don't even know who went upstairs with me. but like I literally just left you guys because I was so tired. Like who's downstairs? What happened? And then we go back down to Amanda and Lindsay.

34:10Ronnie Karam: Yeah. She's like, you didn't hear any of it? Oh my God. I don't even know what happened. Kyle was just being mean. Like he was like calling me names and throwing a hissy fit. And Wes tried to talk to him. What was he throwing a hissy fit about? I don't even know. He was just like upset. I'm not hanging out with him. And then, oh my God. And then I cried like three times. I don't even know the last time I cried.

34:31Ben Mandelker: And Lindsay goes, god damn it Kyle but she's like smiling still which is weird and then Amanda is just saying like you know he's going through his own shit it's not an excuse I didn't treat him like shit when I was depressed you know and we're going through whatever I was going through and then upstairs Sierra's like yeah I'm so over the way he speaks to her like my gut reaction is you cannot have kids with him like end the bloodline don't go don't go any farther don't get more involved in this don't throw good money after bad like exit Oh, yeah.

35:01Ronnie Karam: I mean, if he talks to you like this, he's going to be like this with the kids. Like, he'll be a big baby with the kids, you know?

35:07Ben Mandelker: He'll be competitive with the child, by the way. He will 100 % lose his mind once there's a baby in the picture. Yeah. Another baby, I should say.

35:16Ronnie Karam: As they often do. We see it happen over and over again. Yeah, immature men with a baby. Oh, now you're paying more attention to the baby than me. Oh, wow. The baby can DJ, but I can't. The baby's just like pressing buttons on the car stereo Oh yeah you like the baby DJing

35:34Ben Mandelker: Cool Amanda So Mia's like You baby little baby bitch Mia's like what do you think Is keeping them together And Sierra goes bitch I don't know So Amanda's saying Well it's his birthday party today So we're gonna make it a great day Smiles all around

35:53Ronnie Karam: Yeah like legitimately You're like so good at compartmentalizing like that is like a legit compliment

36:00Ben Mandelker: by the way coming from Lindsay that's a massive compliment Lindsay's like a bento box so when she's like you do such a good job compartmentalizing I can learn a thing or two then you know you're really in some shit Lindsay's like a silverware drawer just like that bitch compartmentalizes okay she's like I'm like a modular system from Ikea Yeah, so if she's saying that you're good at it, then whoa.

36:29Ronnie Karam: Yeah, that's a high compliment. So Amanda's saying, well, you know, I have to. I guess I'm just excited to see what he looks like old. And she goes, yeah, and then you should be like the hot one. Like you shouldn't even come down in age makeup.

36:43Ben Mandelker: Uh-uh, I love being an old woman. Lindsay goes, I know. No, it just suits me. I'm going to pretend like I don't feel like that was an insult. but I want to wear a nightgown and socks at the club every night. So it's 11.19 a.m. You guys are returning from the gym. Carl's been training for a marathon. Guys, oh, marathon. KJ brings in some groceries. They fall all over the floor. He's like, of course.

37:10Ronnie Karam: Thank God the eggs are rubber banded. Everyone's having a pool morning, and Amanda just keeps going out there saying, guys, I need help with decorations because there's a lot of stuff to bring in. and they just kind of look at her and then jump in the pool and keep talking. Yeah. Nobody, nobody will help her.

37:28Ben Mandelker: So, by the way, this is on the heels of Kyle accusing her of not paying attention to him and not doing anything for him. And she's the only one sitting, setting up this stupid party for his birthday.

37:38Ronnie Karam: Right. When he's nowhere to be seen. After the nothing that he did last for her next week, last week, except buying her a really expensive watch.

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40:41Ronnie Karam: So in the kitchen, Lindsay's talking to KJ, and they're talking about Dara, and he's like, oh, man, she's coming, but I'm like kind of in my head right now. You are? Yeah, but like it's fine. Wait, why are you in your head? Like are you like nervous about everyone in the house, like knowing about your relationship and trying to cause problems in your relationship? Because that would be terrible if that happens, you know? Because like do you really like her? Or like does she say she likes you? were you like her oh my god you guys said that already he's like yeah it's like mutual um yeah because i know that ben and her were kind of flirting so what happened with that i would hate for people to be messy in your relationship so everyone is like talking about that but like it's

41:22Ben Mandelker: like literally it was like nothing to her she was just like flirting because like she's like yeah he's a fun person to flirt with oh is that like so what did that talk what what did they what were they doing talking in his room for an hour he's like wait what like lindsey just drops the bombs lindsey's just such a effortless reality tv pro at this point she's like pretending to be like all supportive and connected with kj and she's like so why was darren talking with ben in his room privately behind the door for an hour did you talk about that he's like i'm here every other week and

41:51Ronnie Karam: you're too happy um i don't know you very well but here's what i do know you're way too happy to be on the show. So let me fuck this up right now for you.

41:59Ben Mandelker: Let me crush you, you young man. And he's like, what? But I'm like emo and sensitive. Why are you doing this to me? I'm going to destroy you under the power of my reality TV spells.

42:10Ronnie Karam: Oh my God, look at your heart. Breaking. That's so sweet. Oh my, can I just say one thing? Whoops. Okay. So according to Bailey, like Dara went into Ben's room and they were in there for like an hour. And then we see a flashback to Lindsay, Levi, and Bailey having lunch and Bailey being like, yeah, she literally went into bed's room wearing one outfit and came out in another. And I was like, I mean, she went in in her costume and she came out in a different outfit. That's what I saw.

42:40Ben Mandelker: Levi's like, well, it could be harmless. No, no, no, no, no. It wasn't harmless. I could tell there was a sweet green bowl in there. When there's a sweet green bowl, shit goes down, okay? It's a different person. By the way, I love the idea that Bailey saw someone go into a room, close the door. They went in in a costume and came out not in a costume. Hmm. Dare I say that might be a crazy concept called getting out of your costume.

43:07Ronnie Karam: It's crazy. Well, you know that kink where you're dressed like a pirate, but then you fuck somebody and you're no longer dressed like a pirate. It's crazy. So Cage is like, I didn't know anything about like the room thing. Oh God, I'm already nervous. oh my god i'm so sorry i am so sorry

43:29Ben Mandelker: whoops what's her name again she doesn't even know who kj is she's like who is this guy you know she's like whatever i'm just gonna fuck shit up for him so he's like oh that's kind of weird though oh well now you're gonna be in your head about it sorry

43:45Ronnie Karam: so then the day goes on and people are still trying to get set up and um amanda's still doing everything virus we just see amanda carrying things through the front door and like filling the pool with these blow up pills which i guess is a sponsor whatever they whatever i think it's

44:02Ben Mandelker: because they're supposed to be old people so it's like the medication that old people have to take

44:06Ronnie Karam: yeah so lindsey come oh i thought they were like those uh pills you get in the 7-eleven they're like yeah maximum strength dicky you know dick exploder or whatever so um lindsey and sierra see each other and lindsey's wearing a zebra outfit and she's like um yeah i wore this to fuck with carl just kidding i'm totally just kidding but i'm not really kidding and sierra's like oh my god zebra that's like a distant memory i forgot about and we see a flashback to three summers ago with lindsey being like carl really likes zebras he has a thing with stripes right

44:43Ben Mandelker: like he loves tan lines he loves zebra like he's really into it he's like if i see if i go into a lady footlocker i'm like oh so um yeah the big zebra those fake animals they brought in that's like the cardboard cutouts of that year oh i hated those those lasted for so many years i think they got those in season two, like off the side of the road at like some antique shop. And then they kept them around for years and years. Oh, Wesley stripes. I'll never forget. So, um, uh, yeah. And we see footage of Wesley stripes and Carl bring the fake zebra into the house. But we've got to be careful. Don't break up.

45:21Ben Mandelker: He's got stripes so hot. Oh, I love the stripes. Oh, um, so, uh, back to present Sierra's like, um, by the way, I do remember like being really stuck on this thing for a month. Carl likes Zebra? It was like messing. It was like rocking Sierra's world for a month where she was like, wow, so much going on in the world, but Carl likes Zebra. That's the one thing I can't make sense of.

45:48Ronnie Karam: Yeah. In the back, Carl sees KJ and he's like, how we doing, bro? How we doing? We in the mix? He's like, I'm alright. Are you a little stressed? I sense it. I sense it, little brother. Come on. Sit down. Tell me. Tell Uncle Carl, why are you stressed? He's like, yeah, you know, it's just like challenging because I just heard some shit, bro. I like heard some shit, like through word of mouth. Like whenever Dara was here, she was just like in Ben's room for like an hour or some shit.

46:20Ben Mandelker: Yeah, well, I think that what you're going to discover a little bit, and Carl's gone through this a lot, me as well at times, is that when there's two people in the house that have an interest in each other. It becomes fodder and vigor for the house, the whole house to discuss. Also, when there's one person in the house and they just have an interest, not necessarily in someone else, but perhaps in, I don't know, brick and mortar, that also becomes fodder for the whole house. And I think it's just hard, especially because, which I don't like to say that because I'm more of a soft guy, but it is hard, especially when you know you're new and trying to get to know her.

46:51Ben Mandelker: So, I feel like that.

46:53Ronnie Karam: Yeah, like if you think you're going to be in this house and stick your penis inside a wooden zebra's nostril, and not get called out on it, you're in the wrong house. This morning, yeah.

47:06Ben Mandelker: So KJ's like, yeah, I'm already like, I'm already anxious about Dara coming to the house and like making sure she's having a good time and feels like included. And then I'm being reminded of this party that I already felt jealous of Ben because I like Dara and I'm just like, and I like her now. And like I've said, like I'm a very honest person. And if she wasn't being honest about that, then like, what are you hiding? I'm like, okay, AJ, you're adorable, but like, you got her. Like, don't worry. Like, I think everything's okay.

47:36Ronnie Karam: The insecurity, I can't. Like, you're a model. You are a model, sir. I want to hear it from you. He's like, what? She likes that model more than me. It's like, you're both models. You would think that I would love model insecurity, but it's making me crazy. I'm like sitting here, like playing with my muffin top. I wonder if this lever go away or if I have to get this cut off. And then I've got 20 pack up. They're like, I'm so insecure. I can't take it. So they're talking about her coming. And, um, Kyle is like, just Kyle's there now. He's like, Oh, uh, he's like, yeah, she's coming here though.

48:12Ronnie Karam: Right. Just, just tune it out. Just tune it out. Just ignore it. It didn't happen. I'm mad. It didn't give you fuck. Fuck you. I just keep telling you some of that all day.

48:20Ben Mandelker: So then at the pool chairs, Ben is sitting there with Jesse and West. And he's like, so did you hear a bit last night's activities after you left? It's like, oh, yeah, that Wes was saying that it got pretty perturbed when he came upstairs. No, no, I was saying I got the soda machine to make some sweet, sweet seltzer. What are you talking about?

48:38Ronnie Karam: I like he says perturbed and Wes goes, whoa, that's a big word.

48:43Ben Mandelker: And then we see footage of him being perturbed. So then meanwhile, back to present, Sierra walks up to the chairs. She sits down with the guys and she's like, idiots.

48:56Ronnie Karam: She's like, idiots. What's up? So they're talking about last night. And Wes says, you know, I told him he has to apologize. And he was saying that she gave me fuck you eyes. And Sierra's like, are you being serious? He's like, yeah, I swear. And I was like, dude, what the fuck? We're just like sitting there. And then Amanda comes out and said, guys, there's still tons of decorations out front. She's got stuff on her back and her arms.

49:24Ben Mandelker: Sorry, we can't help you. we were just talking about the destruction of your marriage and how you should never have babies with this man and probably should divorce him okay good luck with that palm tree we're all

49:33Ronnie Karam: talking about how poorly we feel for you but nobody's gonna lift a finger to help you on this really rough day for you okay get to it amanda jesus did she just give me fuck you eyes because i'll kick that bitch's ass right now jesse's like has anybody talked to him about it

49:51Ben Mandelker: today do we know if he even remembers west is like um i was like teetering on the line of being should we fucking ask him if he even has a fucking clue and she was like not today like for his birthday just like leave it alone and i just got like scared because it's like a confrontation so i just had to come suntan instead it's like acting like he was actually gonna do this like no you were never gonna do this you're

50:15Ronnie Karam: just gonna swim around and loaf and relax by the pool yeah and so sierra's like yeah um yeah i don't know how she does that because if i'm pissed everybody knows and west goes yeah we know they'll start laughing she's like yeah there's no gray area so meanwhile amanda's like guys please can anybody help me i'm not they know they help me please like yeah whatever amanda okay okay amanda good luck with that god poor amanda am i right guys poor amanda and i don't know if it

50:44Ben Mandelker: happening at this specific moment or like in a few beats from now she at one point she just has this tree and she's just trying to set up this tree and the palm fronds keep slapping her in the face and i was like this is the metaphor and she's like she's saying everything's fine guys everything's

50:58Ronnie Karam: fine everything's fine that's next because they continue to talk about amanda and then whenever they're like poor amanda and it just cuts to amanda being poked in the eye with the tree and then she like literally just stands there like with the tree still poked in her eye and she's like no one actually helps her no one actually helps her she also doesn't get the fuck away from the tree I have to point out which is get away from the tree Amanda Jesus I can change the tree I know I can fix the tree yeah I'll fix it so Ben tells the tree just needs to feel supported guys so Ben is talking to them still the guys in Sierra and he's like yeah you know I had a chat with him.

51:43Ronnie Karam: I went to Loverboy to check it out. And I didn't realize this, but he's personally on the hook for Loverboy, millions of dollars. So apparently Kyle guaranteed a$4 million loan back when Loverboy was doing well and was still going up. And there's still 2 million owed, more than 2 million owed on this debt. So if Loverboy tanks and he's bankrupt and he lost everything, to which I say, why would you do a personal loan? Like, that's not my fault. Why don't you do that? yeah it's a stupid decision that is absolutely idiotic so what i get that that would stress you out and i feel for you because it's too expensive lover boy is too expensive and i don't know do you ever see anybody drinking lover boy because i feel like it should be it has enough press that

52:30Ben Mandelker: it should be like a huge thing i think i guess what's weird to me is how is that that like you know 15 years later somehow black water still exists and i see it in stores i see it everywhere how is it that that is like thriving how is it that poppy the soda that those two people on house hunters made that they like brought to whole food and they brought to a convention and then they bought a house on house hunters and then they stole that for like two billion dollars like that's doing well i mean i guess i'm just saying i've answered i mean look the black water

53:02Ronnie Karam: a was something that was marketed as health right because it's like the things that are in black whatever it is the alkaline or whatever it is that's why it's black and it's kind of a health thing also those guys sold it right away i mean they had black water they sold it to a huge company that's why it's still huge because they've got the huge company marketing it then you've got um poppy and i think poppy did well because it was another health thing it was like a probiotic soda it was like you can drink soda but you also get all these health benefits lover boy is drinking and alcohol when that's kind of going down in the world and there's also it's

53:36Ben Mandelker: also so oversaturated with that stuff yeah because like white claw and all that stuff and also like sometimes those i don't i don't know what the status is of alcoholic seltzers and spritzes and whatever but like i you know drinking fats come and go i mean sweet tea vodka hello i used to love my sweet tea vodka. Oh, that was the best with like some lemonade. Oh, the best. And you're like, this is the best thing that's ever happened to alcohol. I will never abandon it. And the next thing you know, it's gone. Mike's hard lemonade or like, you know, hard lemonade is here and then gone. So like, I don't know where the seltzer train is these days, but like if the fad is receding, that probably is also part of it.

54:16Ben Mandelker: Cause as you wisely mentioned those, those beverages, first of all, sodas or they're non-alcoholic and they're tied to health. But like, it just seems to me that Kyle has been able to give this brand a huge amount of press and we all know about Loverboy. We all know what Loverboy is. It's at all these events that he does and the fact that it's tanking, which is, by the way, is it great for business to announce multiple times on your show that your business is totally tanking? What went wrong here? How did it go so far awry?

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