#3278: Summer House S10E8 Part Two: Old Man (Cry Me a) River

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2:01Ben Mandelker: Hello and welcome to Watch What Crapins, a podcast about all that crap on Bravo that we just love to talk about. This is part two of the recap. If you missed part one, go check out your podcast feed. It's right there. And without further ado, let's get right back into the recap.

2:14Ronnie Karam: up alcohol consumption is decreasing in the u.s and has reached a 90-year low with only 54 percent of adults reporting they drink down from over 60 percent in previous decades this decline is driven by health concerned high costs and a significant reduction in drinking among young adults and women and women hello that's that that's who they're marketing to right lover boy so it's not like he could have seen that coming i think i saw something saying like glp ones are a huge thing to blame too because those work with your thoughts on addiction and drinking. You don't really, it doesn't affect you the same way.

2:51Ronnie Karam: So I wonder if that's something to do with it. Anyway, it's not like it's his fault. No, no. But at the same time, don't put your own money. Everybody knows when you go into a business like that. Don't put your own.

3:05Ben Mandelker: I also feel like they're like, maybe I'm wrong about this or maybe it's out there and I haven't seen it, but it feels like they never were able to expand the brand beyond a thing that sold on Bravo. Like I never saw ads for lover boy around. I didn't see billboards. I didn't see any, I don't, I just never saw like a marketing push beyond Bravo. It always seemed to be like, okay, we're going to get like our audience really into it. And I don't know if that would have made the difference or not, but I felt like it never went to the next level from, uh, this thing that Bravo fans know about. And if Kyle Cook or Carl around whatever that they'll be they'll be like lover boy to just its own entity that like goes

3:46Ronnie Karam: and does a thing like skinny girl right yeah it never really caught on like that yeah um so we see a scene of west and kyle uh in the same in the office apparently kyle's just shot tons of scenes about this because we also saw a scene with him and carl earlier so apparently he's just shooting scene after scene about how lover boy is tanking which is like you said like is that wise and in this scene, Kyle's saying, I have an investor call tomorrow. We have to talk about how long we can last based on our current cash reserves. And it's about six months at most. And so we cut back and Ben's like, you know, I'm not saying it's an excuse, but maybe what's going through his head 24 seven is if lover boy's bankrupt and I'm bankrupt also.

4:31Ronnie Karam: And Sierra says, well, whose fault is that? You know, there's always an excuse, you know, that he finally, yeah. It's like, there's always something Like the world can be crashing down around you, but you want to know your husband's not, just because there's a war outside, your husband's not going to turn to you and go, well, fuck you. You know, you need someone the most when shit is going bad.

4:51Ben Mandelker: Right. I love that Ben does this whole thing about like, but poor Kyle, his business is in the shit. And like, that is stressful. It is scary. And it will weigh on you. But guess what? This stuff was happening before when Loverboy was doing really well. Also, I'd like to point out. And I love Sierra's like, well, whose fault is that? Like, don't give me this bullshit. Like, doesn't give an excuse to curse out your wife.

5:14Ronnie Karam: Yeah. And, you know, Ben's getting on my nerves with this whole like, well, but Kyle, you know, he's got this going on and that going on. She does nag him. He's really pissing me off with that. But I have to remind myself that Ben is new to Kyle. And we've had 10 years of Kyle. Everybody else has seen Kyle for years doing this and then pulling the victim card and crying and being upset because everyone hurt his feelings. when he doesn't get his way. But this is new, so maybe Ben is just falling for it because he's not used to this.

5:43Ben Mandelker: Follow your instincts. Follow your instincts, Ronnie. You're doing the Ben thing, which is to be like, I'm having a negative reaction to something, but you know what, though? I'm going to think it through, and maybe there's more to this story. Do the Ronnie thing, because I'm doing the Ronnie thing with Ben, which is to be like, you know what? Fuck this guy. I'm sorry. He gave me bad vibes two weeks ago, the way he talked to Bailey. He gave me bad vibes last week, and he gives me bad vibes now. I think this guy is shitty.

6:11Ronnie Karam: Well, to me, Ben is just kind of a non-entity. I'm just pointing out the other side of it because I'm pointing out Kyle, how good Kyle is with manipulation. He's really got it down where it's like if Kyle does something wrong, he's like, oh, beloved boy. Or she gave me fuck you eyes. So if you're not used to the baby crying, it's like, oh my God, there's a baby crying. I don't know. But then you spend a couple dinners with that baby and you're like, this baby's always fucking crying. Put this thing in a crate.

6:41Ben Mandelker: Yeah. Yeah. It's like, it's like first time parents who like do it on the child so much. And then when they have their second child, they're basically just like duct taping the child to the side of the car door. Be like, okay, we'll see you when we get there.

6:55Ronnie Karam: They're like, baby on board. Bump me.

6:59Ben Mandelker: You have to sort of, you start to realize all the things that you don't have to worry about. Anyway, way, this is where Sierra's like, honestly, I think they should just separate. This just feels different this time. It just feels like they're hitting their breaking point. And Jesse's like, well, it's a very tricky thing, telling your friend about the relationship. I'm like, no, a tricky thing is trying to listen to your music. So Sierra's like, look, it doesn't have to be. And I'll tell the

7:22Ronnie Karam: person in a bad relationship the same thing I'm telling you. Stop.

7:28Ben Mandelker: Jesse Solomon, you're in a bad relationship with music.

7:31Ronnie Karam: yeah i don't want to listen to the relationship talk i don't want to listen to your damn songs

7:35Ben Mandelker: everybody just be quiet okay but sierra's sierra's right though she's like just separate it doesn't have to be a legal separation just separate get your bearings see if that helps and then maybe you can communicate and talk properly um about the issues that you guys really have you know and um she's like yeah you just can't keep brushing everything under the rug because now

7:55Ronnie Karam: the rug is just like enormous and i'm tripping over the rug there is a huge pile under the i I cannot walk across this rug at some point. Clean up the dirt. Just clean it.

8:06Ben Mandelker: By the way, sweeping things under the rug, that's like a pain in the ass, right? Like if you have to, if you're sweeping something under the rug, you might as well be sweeping it into a dustpan. You still have to lift, you have to bend over and lift up the rug and sweep under it, right? I mean, hello. Get a dustpan.

8:22Ronnie Karam: Eventually, you have to sweep or vacuum the underside of the rug. Not only the floor, but you have to turn the rug over and vacuum it because it gets nasty. and then it leaves shit everywhere every time the rug slides which it does because i refuse to use

8:34Ben Mandelker: rug stoppers i did not have rug stoppers for a long time and i would like i had like one too many times where i was like tom cruise and risky business as i was just like trying to walk across my bedroom floor i was like okay it's time it's time i'm getting the things that's what i do too

8:52Ronnie Karam: i fall all the time or my people fall in my house you know they'll be like running and then they slip on a rug and the rug slides all the way across the room and i'm like what just pretend you're

9:02Ben Mandelker: surfing it's fine yeah it's outside also meanwhile cut to amanda and this is amanda trying to put up this fake tree and it's poking her in the eye she's like everything's gonna be fine everything's gonna be okay amanda you can do this you can you can prop up that tree prop it up prop it up everything's fine let's branch a spread amanda just walks over with one eye she's like anybody

9:25Ronnie Karam: everybody help me with the rest of them. Amanda, we're talking about how to fix your life. God, Amanda, Jesus. Amanda with the bloody eye. God. So then later, everybody does well, no, they don't really help her. I think the guys jump in the pool. They do jump in the pool.

9:40Ben Mandelker: An amazing shot, by the way. I don't know if you saw, I don't know if you really appreciated this or not, but they all jumped in, all four of them in this perfect synchronized, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. I was like, well, that was beautiful. Good job. Artistry on Summer House.

9:55Ronnie Karam: Well done, guys. So Dara arrives, and KJ's in the kitchen, and he's trying to play it cool. And she's like, hey, hey, Bully Dara here. Bully Dara. He's like, yeah, well, welcome. Really glad you're here. I'm looking deeply in the pantry for something. I can't hug you right now. Please leave me a message at the beep.

10:20Ben Mandelker: I thought KJ was acting kind of weird. I was like, you did. He like barely turned to say hello to her. He didn't hug her or anything. I kind of felt bad for her. Cause she's, you know, she didn't even, and she didn't even complain about this by the way. Notably she wasn't like, what the hell? He just was in the fridge and he's like, um, yeah, I'm just trying to figure out this fridge right now. Yeah. I'm like, literally they said I should play it cool. And so I didn't really know what that meant. So I was like, should I put myself in the fridge? So I'm just going to hang out here for the next day.

10:45Ben Mandelker: I'll see you later.

10:47Ronnie Karam: I'm sorry KG's not available right now he's spending a week in a crisper so please return to this email and I will read it when I have a chance

10:58Ben Mandelker: um so where are your bags at she's like I'm at the front should we do something with him she's like yeah um once I figure out how to close this fridge I'm like KG you gotta come up with better excuses to avoid her not like how do I close a fridge oh it's complicated it's a hinge it's a door come on KJ

11:18Ronnie Karam: he's like I'm trying to pretend with Dara that everything's all good but inside I'm just like freaking like out like I suck at like lying I'm like I feel like she can like tell yeah she can tell you're in the crisper dude

11:34Ben Mandelker: you just put a gallon of milk in the crisper whatever you're doing you're out of control she's like well wait

11:40Ronnie Karam: let me see if I can help you with this door wow look at that it closes Wow. That was rough. That was rough. Good thing you're dating a bully.

11:48Ben Mandelker: Wow. Okay. Well, let me take my purse. Okay. Let's go upstairs. Okay.

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15:14Ben Mandelker: Okay. See you on Monday. Bye.

15:17Ronnie Karam: She's like, yeah, I would like, where's everyone at? It's so quiet in here. Jesus Christ. You could hear a fridge door close. And he's like, uh, they're outside. Well, are you helping set up? What are you doing? He's like, well, like I'm kind of in work mode like right now. She goes, okay, well, I guess I'll see if I can help them. Fucking weirdo. She's just looking at him like, what is wrong with this guy?

15:41Ben Mandelker: Oh, no, the fridge door. So Mia and Carl are.

15:45Ronnie Karam: I saw an escalator going up, and I saw an escalator going down, and I thought, oh, my God, there's so many choices.

15:54Ben Mandelker: Scary. Mia and Carl are doing laps around the pool and motorized scooters, like the little rascal things for jazzy's or whatever. Carl's like, hey, I'm gonna get a couple laps in Wait, hey, we gotta get a ramp into this house And then he like goes up this ramp And then he like runs over like a balloon or something There's like a bang and everyone gets startled And Carl's like, whoa, what's my fault? What's my fault? I was trying to drive softly Sorry guys, trying to drive soft

16:21Ronnie Karam: Put you back into World War I, right Carl? Wes is like, that reminds me of trench warfare Old people, am I right? you guys are so much closer than you realize i wish young people really understood like how close we really are this whole time um my mom got a wheelchair we got my mom a wheelchair can i tell you how fun this thing is i'm really glad they leaned into how fun being old can be in this episode because i love that thing i want one now i mean i don't want to like give myself bad juju but i'm like this is amazing and my mom's like yeah yeah now let's see if people with me you know because that thing goes fast you can kill a person in that thing yeah i i i bet i bet they could just go

17:06Ben Mandelker: you know i mean everything feels fast to me you know that's why i can't get on those stupid lime scooters i'm like whoa danger so i mean don't everything feels fast i love those things

17:19Ronnie Karam: i like them because people actually talk to you while you're on them i was on one in austin last week and I was wearing those like Japanese silk pant things and I was like I thought I was going to die you know because there's so many bumps in the road in Austin too it's not like a smooth ride and I think the wheels are made out of stone or something it's like not a smooth ride but I was doing it and I passed by and this guy goes love the pants bro and I was like thanks bro bing bing I like gave him a little bing bing that is true I definitely

17:49Ben Mandelker: do talk to people on scooters mainly saying get out of the fucking way or um one of my favorite sidewalk you loser one of my favorites is ow you just ran me over because that did happen to me i i did get run over by a girl on a lime scooter i walked out the door for my doctor's appointment i stepped out on the sidewalk and i was ba-boom this girl crashed into me and and like she fell to the ground i was like oh my gosh i had i had i was i was like i cannot believe i just got run over by a girl on a lime scooter and i was like ow did she apologize she was so embarrassed she was so sweet that i was like you know that's you know if you want to do a comparison to the girl who fell over to me on me on the airplane that girl never apologized never showed any sort of remorse this girl was like oh my god i'm so sorry i'm so sorry she was like are you okay i was like are you okay and she's like i just i'm so i did i'm so it's like it's okay it's okay everything's fine i said don't worry honey it's fine you're totally fine i'm just

18:49Ronnie Karam: gonna talk about you on my podcast i'm gonna rip you a new asshole tomorrow when i get to work you know what was so funny when you told so ben told a story about flying uh and he was sleeping in like first class or whatever and a lady kept coming over and falling down on him three times she kept getting up and then falling down and then just looked straight ahead like she couldn't even see him and it was such a funny story and this uh the comments were cracking me up because there were so many people like oh ben don't worry it was probably just a girl on ambi and that happens to me i don't remember anything or man it was probably this she probably had this happen and she didn't even know what and i was like how many how many women are walking around just falling onto people that there are this many comments like i get it i've been there don't worry yeah everyone was we have an audience with like 30 of people just falling over on you in the middle of a store being like i don't mind it you know it's my medication

19:42Ben Mandelker: yeah that's hilarious yeah i've i've had too many people fall on top of me that's that's

19:47Ronnie Karam: that's the truth of it i will say i will say it was how many you have so many children just wandering around the world like who's where's my daddy i will say that girl who who crashed into

19:58Ben Mandelker: me she actually was she actually had an impact on me because you know i had found out like uh like a few days earlier or so i had found out that i actually carried the brocca tube mutation

20:11Ronnie Karam: which actually has health risks for men is that true oh my gosh i didn't know yeah i mean it's

20:17Ben Mandelker: it's more it's i think it's it's more of a you know for women it's obviously a breast cancer risk but like, you know, there's other, there's elevated risks of, you know, cancer and certain things. So when you get that news, it's like, that happened. Yeah. Well, I mean, it's, it's fine, but it's, but you know what, when I got the news, it was like, I was like, I took it as I have cancer. I was doing the full Kim Zolciak thing. Like I have cancer, but it's like, no, I don't have cancer. It just means I'm at higher risk. So I just have to get things checked out more yada yada yada so one of the things is that i have to get an annual mammogram which is i'm like as long as i've got these man tits i might as well put them to use right so i but i was like in this like i was like oh my god like you're you it's it was just sort of like a very scary time to hear it and um i was literally walking out from my first ever mammogram my manogram and this girl ran me over and i really actually had a moment of thinking you know what i'm sitting here being like oh my god i could get cancer i could get cancer i could get cancer it's like i could also just get fucking run over in the street you know yeah and it kind of was like a helpful thing to be like you know what let's like okay you had a little bit of feeling bad for yourself where's

21:30Ronnie Karam: the test yeah where you go in and they're like you are you are someone who runs a very high risk of women just falling on top of you or running into you with lime scooters there's nothing we

21:40Ben Mandelker: can do about it yeah yeah and it's kind of like it's one of those things like okay i felt bad for myself it was it's a scary thing and you know and like i now am like you know more careful about certain things and i get tested about things a lot more but it's also reminded like you could also like get hit by a bus so yeah or some girl on a scooter or some girl on ambien walking down the aisle of a plane so get on with it so wow thank you that's great thank you to that girl

22:05Ronnie Karam: but you can also go get because you know i first of all i've never seen this but you complained about boobs well we both complain about boobs you know like i've got boobs and my first thing would be to get that shit on insurance and get get some boob surgery i mean you can right is that insensitive i don't mean it no it's not insensitive i'm just trying to look at the

22:25Ben Mandelker: well the other thing is that like i also have like what it's sort of funny that's called this but i have light hemophilia and so when you are a light hemophiliac uh basically like i'm i i can like clot and everything. But when you do like surgeries or whatever, like you have to, they have to like augment like something called factor eight that's in your blood. And it's just like, I don't know. I think the vibe is kind of like, you know, if you're, if you don't have to do it, like don't, don't do it. Right. Like that's my vibe, you know, cause it's like, let's not mess with that. Like, let's not make it too hard on my system.

23:00Ben Mandelker: So I'm just stuck with these man boobs for life. Unfortunately.

23:03Ronnie Karam: Oh my gosh. Wow. What a turn this took. What a turn.

23:07Ben Mandelker: What a turn this took, you know, just Carl going up a ramp and now, you know.

23:12Ronnie Karam: Well, the BRCA, I don't know. We need to look into that. I think I'm going to be doing some Googling tonight, sir, because I need to come back. What kind of friend would I be without making your BRCA2 gene about myself? So I will be doing that.

23:26Ben Mandelker: Lorraine BRCA mutation. It's very common in Ashkenazi Jewish populations. That's it. Is it? That's it. That's it.

23:39Ronnie Karam: I'd never heard that. That's crazy.

23:41Ben Mandelker: I hadn't heard that either.

23:43Ronnie Karam: I don't even want to know. I just don't want to know. I just tell the doctor, don't tell me. Just write it down. I know. You know, it's too hard. Okay, the point is, Amanda has a tree limb in her eyeball. Okay, so Amanda's outside like, ow. So Dara goes down to say hi to the rest of the gang. And she's like, wow, you're already really rosy there, Wes. We don't use sunscreen in this home. Bully Dara. Just got him. Just nailed him.

24:13Ben Mandelker: Wes is like, did you take the train or did you drive? I'm not like Danielle, that crazy girl I always see at the train station. I drove, okay? Because I was in Fire Island. Gay men love me. That's kind of like, I feel like what she was saying.

24:28Ronnie Karam: I left gay people to be here, okay?

24:31Ben Mandelker: So make it good. Gay people and deer ticks. so then Ben comes up and they hug cheers how's it going did you hear love boys in the tank cheers for a second I forgot you were Australian you just got Darren

24:46Ronnie Karam: I never forgot there's nothing he's ever said where I was like oh he's normal so KJ takes out trash and he's sighing he's like oh my god I'm just so stressed I guess I'll take out the trash

25:03Ben Mandelker: I know the camera kind of lingers on this moment and they put up a timestamp at 1 46. I was like, Oh, something's going to happen. Is he going to be out there for like three hours? It'll be like two 30 kg still out there, but like nothing ever happened. He just took out the trash and was like,

25:17Ronnie Karam: Oh, it's just like a man in America is taking out the trash voluntarily. There must be something deeply psychologically wrong. Sit there and stare at it for a while.

25:26Ben Mandelker: wonder so amanda is riding her scooter around pal's cleaning the kitchen he's like i'm a little bit in a weird mood oh yeah why you're in a weird mood uh do you want to get in the mix with me it's like no just like keep overthinking things just like oh started my life i overthink things except of course you know brick and mortar just go straight forward with that one good guy claws

25:47Ronnie Karam: yeah it's just like i just keep letting my my happiness get hijacked you are the hijacker You're like a terrorist on a plane, you know, complaining about the use of box cutters. You are the terrorist. You are the one. You're the emotional terrorist. I'm going to get to switch this over to somebody else, sir.

26:05Ben Mandelker: I remember what, like, set me off. Here, I'll give you a reminder. It was nothing. Nothing set you off.

26:13Ronnie Karam: It was literally not. No one kept your DJ show in the living room, okay? Well, I don't know what set you off. I don't know. I mean, I kind of know. I don't want to talk about it. I don't want to talk about it. Fuck you guys. Yeah, fuck you guys, man.

26:26Ben Mandelker: I'm like the worst version of myself this summer. It's like my BPMs are not matching up. I just can't do a crossfit right now. And I'm just not able to articulate anything. I give Amanda all these perfect instances where I mess up or I start them off or I say fuck you or I stay out late. And meanwhile, there's just so many fundamental things that are wrong with our foundations of our relationship. And I'm just like, I'm unrelatable. No one understands what I'm going through. so it's just like very isolating and i just makes me feel like i should just like give up but i've got like so much invested in my marriage and my business and just doesn't seem like an option i'm

26:59Ronnie Karam: just trying to hold on oh god so then we go to um amanda setting up still and um they're just basically trying to help her it's like are you guys gonna help me and they all jump in the pool um so they start putting on their costumes now and they all look hilarious in their old i'm surprised that they did this because this was the last season of vanderpump rules i mean this was when we knew it was over when they did this yeah yeah um they've done that on they've done this on

27:31Ben Mandelker: this show before haven't they the old people think they have i'm like a little over the theme parties to be honest so there's like there's all sorts of the couches are coming out and kj is sitting in the grass of sierra and mia and cage is like he's like so you're gonna wear like a fat suit whatever and um and sierra's saying she has to paint her titties and she's he's like what oh my god so what's your costume and sierra goes do you know karma brown he's like no he's like why would i know your your one-off character that was featured in like part of a season of this show from three

28:06Ronnie Karam: years ago it's like well you will know and so um she's like yeah you're gonna get to know now so then they're talking about dara and they're like well dara's here and he's like yeah but like i literally like had like a panic attack when i saw her because like yeah like low-key i was just like rethinking because like you know i heard all these conversations like just be careful you know and like people just like care but you know like i'm already in my head and like i'm just trying to protect myself because i do like her and sierra says you know um i always say to myself it's better to have loved and lost than to have never loved at all you should write that down because that is a really good that's a really good saying that could take off still still doesn't excuse the austin

28:52Ben Mandelker: romance but that's fine it's fine so um yeah she basically like you know whatever it's like worth it it's worth it to get hurt rather than to never try so go for it don't worry but by the way i'm also like, this is way too deep for this situation with Dara. Okay. It's like, you guys are just starting to date. And the story is that she hung out with Ben for an hour in the room. And like, we're acting as if she's asking you to move in with her. So, uh, Mia's like, yeah, you're allowed to love and have those experiences. And Sierra says that like, I, you know, after that conversation we had last night, I can see how KJ is probably really apprehensive about bringing a girl to the house and dating or whatever.

29:30Ben Mandelker: And if there's an interracially dating and if there's anyone who can relate it's me but you can't not do things out of fear the other side wins if you do that cut to Amanda still getting poked in the eye with a tree like

29:43Ronnie Karam: can someone get me I'm stuck under this wheelchair like whatever Amanda

29:52Ben Mandelker: so Sierra basically says just like breathe in this is like she basically lets meditate yeah so then Amanda's

29:59Ronnie Karam: looking for Kyle because his glam people have come. So, Nina's here, guys. Everyone's like, oh my god, it's Nina. Hi, Nina. Oh my god, it's Nina. So, Nina, I guess, is a big deal. So, Nina's going to be doing the old man glam. And then Ben's friend comes over, an Aussie named Matt. And he's like, oh, wow, look at that. Is this your bedroom? You hadn't wanked in there yet?

30:23Ben Mandelker: Hey, congratulations. Happy anniversary, Matt and Katie. Good to see you. Welcome to the mix. You're in it. and then um then dara is like oh all right hey are you gonna get changed we get changed they go up to his room dara and kj and uh in the meantime uh carl and jesse joins jesse and kyle in the living room and carl um i kind of feel bad for carl because his costume for dressing up like an old man was just like putting on glasses i was like oh

30:57Ronnie Karam: Carl's like yeah um I go running so that ages me plenty I just put some gray in my hair and

31:02Ben Mandelker: some glasses on I'm ready I was like you didn't really have to do much did he uh to get aging

31:07Ronnie Karam: makeup I lived the last five years of my life oh so yeah I'm in the aging mix okay I'm here so they make fun of his Crocs because he's still wearing his Crocs and he's like it's a cry for help guys yeah I'll do a cry for help and Carl's like my my cries for help come out weird times in the night in the worst possible way, I guess. And they just ignore it because they're like, we're not talking to Kyle about being an asshole on his birthday. So it's just crickets. Meanwhile, me and Sierra are getting their old lady outfits on. And then we go to KJ's room. They're talking about their outfits. And he's like, whoa, sorry if there's like weird vibes today or like whatever.

31:46Ronnie Karam: But like maybe there's like weird, I don't know if you could feel it, but like I couldn't close the refrigerator door. So like, I don't know if you want to like talk about, I don't, but like, I don't need to, if you need to though, it's like spit it out. What?

32:05Ben Mandelker: Um, so yeah, I was in my head earlier and like, I'm fine now, but like, you know why it happened? She's like, no, was it because you spent too much time putting her head in the fridge? Yeah. Well, I was like talking to Lindsay earlier and she told me that Bailey told her that the night that you were here, that you were in Ben's room for an hour. And then Dara does this very sitcom thing, which is, ha ha ha. No. I was like, okay.

32:29Ronnie Karam: Not true. Absolutely not true.

32:32Ben Mandelker: I was like, okay. She's like, okay, now I know who Dara is. She is in theater club and she auditioned to be a child actor on an ABC sitcom. Like I see you there. I see you for who you are. I don't know that annoyed me so much when she did that like it was like so performative and it made me be like is it true that was such a sitcom turn that you just did I don't know if I trust you anymore but she says she was I was literally in Ben's room because I put my stuff in there and I changed and I came right back out that's why I was in there I was bullying him too stupid Aussie didn't even remember he was an Aussie until he took out a picture of a koala stupid bass

33:12Ronnie Karam: but like Bailey apparently Emily said that you were like there for like an hour talking with Ben. She goes, what? Well, that like that just factually never happened. And if it did, I'd be like, yeah, I was. We were talking, getting to know each other. Who cares? Like it just like literally never happened. And he goes, yeah, but then like literally like I was like having so much thoughts in my head. Like what she actually low key. Like what if she actually low key likes Ben? And then this is just like, I don't know. It's like crazy, right? She's like, no, it's not really crazy. I would have anxiety if I thought you like someone else.

33:47Ronnie Karam: So, no, I don't think it's over. I like that she's like harsh, but also very sensitive. You know, she's like, well, no, you're not crazy. And I would feel sensitive. So, no, I don't feel like you're being oversensitive at all. And he's like, yeah, but like, I don't want you to think like I was being like, hello, oversensitive or whatever when you came. But like, you know, I just I just wanted to know, like, how does cold air even stay in a refrigerator?

34:13Ben Mandelker: no I mean I can get why you were trying to process that and trying to figure out the fridge and like didn't necessarily want to interact and to be fair it like the refrigerator is like really fascinating if you really think about it a crisper like how's that even work right but like genuinely the person I hadn't interested in with was you it's like yeah because like I'm glad okay I'm glad we talked about this because like I just wanted to get it off my chest a bit because I just was like in my head yeah well I'm glad you you said that and it does seem a bit sabotagey that Bailey would just start saying things baselessly.

34:44Ben Mandelker: Yeah, I think she said it on the way home or something. On the way home, even worse. And to be honest with you, I don't care where she said it. I just care that she said it.

34:53Ronnie Karam: He's like, uh-oh, I just started some shit. She's like, well, I just don't understand it, but maybe I can have a conversation with her and clear things up. And he's like, I guess we'll see you next weekend. She's like, I can't wait. Oh, God help Bailey. Bailey's going to get it. yeah Bailey is gonna get it where is Bailey anyway she went to a wedding or something and how come Levi doesn't get to come without Bailey were they just somewhere that they had to be together

35:20Ben Mandelker: yeah I think they have to be together and like clearly like everyone has a week where they're not allowed to be on the show it's like either they don't have enough room or it's too much for Bravo to have this many cast members but every season they always have like someone's like oh yeah I can't come out tonight this weekend because I'm bringing my mom to Costco.

35:41Ronnie Karam: It's a big deal. It's a big deal. My mom, she was really into Sam's Club. I'm really trying to make a positive change in her life.

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39:11Ronnie Karam: hall that's funny because everyone says he's like robin williams so then um mia is um mia comes down and her old lady outfit and she's playing it up she looks they all look really good actually their costumes have gotten really good on this show so they're all talking to each other like old people she's like well that betty's being crazy you know how she is now and so they're all cracking up at each other's old people outfit and then carl comes down in his normal carl thing but with gray hair and glasses and lizzie goes oh my god did you spray your hair gray just because everybody loved it two years ago and he goes oh i mean yeah probably she goes yeah i knew it i knew it needy fucking carl fucking loser carl yeah nice they have a flashback to that weird sci-fi party

39:57Ben Mandelker: where he was like playing an alien with silver hair um so they basically more people are walking in it's just everyone's coming in and then here comes sierra and she is doing karma brown but old karma brown and her costume is that she has added prosthetic long droopy boobs onto her chest and it's like very funny and um it's impressive um as here's like straight gay whatever everybody

40:23Ronnie Karam: loves tits show me someone that doesn't want to juggle them or put it put their face in a tit so um she goes around that's just like a wacky like old people we're old now So all the guests start to come and girls are surrounding West and like grabbing his boobs. And he's like, guys, consent. Consent first. And Amanda's still asking for help. God bless her. This time it's in character at least. He's like, we need help picking up this lady's cigarette. I'll do it, I guess. Nobody's going to help me.

40:56Ben Mandelker: Yeah, West and Kyle are on scooters in the back. and people just keep on arriving and arriving and arriving. A lot of scooter time. Now Jesse and Wes are on scooters and now they're like watching everyone and Wes is like, everyone looks so good. I'm so proud. And I know that Sierra's in costume is like the costume queen or whatever, but this one is like fucking unreal. It's so good. Then Jesse's like, yeah, this guy looks great. Look at Kyle over here. Cause like, you know what? Everything diggles right now cause he's got like your hair and nose hair and everything.

41:29Ronnie Karam: so it's like i'm like this so it actually looks like he should look but he somehow miraculously still looks 20 um so jesse and west gossip jesse's like i mean i think it's crazy the cr was saying that they should split up like i was not expecting that and he's like yeah i mean you know we've seen them for three years so has there ever been a moment where you're like i get it he's like yeah i mean i just thought they were each other's person you know nothing's perfect you know you fight and stuff like married people have issues i mean i don't know and west is like yeah there's good and bad but i'd like to see more good because yikes

42:10Ben Mandelker: yeah exactly he's like i've never witnessed anything that would make up for what she went through last night and we see flashbacks to last night of amanda saying this is the best i'm ever gonna do so west is like if i see someone give a fucking nice gift to someone it's probably because they're fucking shitty in every other way possible and he's referring to the Cartier watch that Kyle gave Amanda.

42:31Ronnie Karam: That's what I said. The second I saw that watch I was like, oh who, has he gotten pregnant? Because that man is doing something very very bad.

42:40Ben Mandelker: It's like in the Wolf of Wall Street when he starts fucking banging hookers every day and it's like, and then starts like DJing and then like handing out Loverboy in the movie. It's like, that's just like that. It's bad.

42:53Ronnie Karam: so are you gonna talk to kyle you think well he's like yeah i mean i just can't not address it especially dress like mrs doubtfire so uh let's see to be continued mrs doubtfire a film about a fuck up of a man who makes the wife out to be a total bitch the entire time because he can't get his shit together interesting interesting interesting correlation while you're talking

43:19Ben Mandelker: into kyle about this well i look forward to seeing west's uh sheepish confrontation of kyle while they're dressed as geriatric folks that'll be great that'll be a great thing to watch but always to be continued yeah to be continued which means we do not get a preview of next week's episode that's the thing when you see to be continued they don't give you even a tease so we'll just have to see what happens but um fun times over in the hamptons that's for sure

43:42Ronnie Karam: all right everybody well thanks so much for being here we will be back tomorrow with a double dose of Charleston, Southern Charm, and Southern Hospitality. We'll talk to you next time. Bye.

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