#3283 RHOBH S15E15 Part Two: All Dope Abandon

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1:58Ronnie Karam: What happens when there's so much that happens?

2:28Ronnie Karam: or wherever. So they're going there. And Dorit's like, so where are we going? San Mateo. But what are we doing here? We're going to walk around, Dorit. But we're not doing anything specific here. What are we doing specifically? Is there a store? Is there a store where we can go shop?

2:50Ben Mandelker: There's like some, like, we're going to get gelato somewhere. They're like on a fetch quest in Zelda. They have to like walk through this town to find the gelato guy.

2:59Ronnie Karam: Despite Dorit claiming that she and Bo's are now both besties, me and Erica are the closest in the group to Dorit. So we want to talk to her in a more private setting to try and get to the bottom of what is going on with her. But as far as she knows, we're just doing a little sightseeing and getting a little gelato.

3:16Ben Mandelker: So they start walking down. They're going down a staircase, and half of them are in heels. And Kyle's like, oh, this place is really dead. Kyle's so mad that they're not in a cooler place than the other girls. and like at one point I like at one point Erica goes well there's one lonely soul and we see just like some random girl and they put an arrow on her to be like there's another person that was the funniest stupid thing that they did like thank you editor whoever decided to add that little arrow in Apple motion we see you so um walking around Erica's like okay guys I feel awkward I care about you both but you two are still at odds, and I hope you're able to resolve it, but I don't know.

4:00Ben Mandelker: That's all I got. Okay. Thanks for the therapy. Hey, just fix it, okay?

4:06Ronnie Karam: You guys find the shit we should be friends? I mean, I don't fucking know. Isn't there supposed to be gelato around here somewhere? Jesus Christ. Oh, I gotta blow to get out of this mess.

4:15Ben Mandelker: Here's to you. Here's to me. May we never disagree. If we do, fuck you. Here's to me. Okay, let's get gelato.

4:23Ronnie Karam: Oh, so we're going to sit on a wall, are we? Okay. a wall a key well honey honey honey i don't know before you before you launch into what she actually

4:34Ben Mandelker: says they do sit on this like uh they sit on like a little wall above like a high like i was like they could fall back and die and um but like kyle and erica sit in the sunlight because they want to be well lit but dorit actually cares about her skin so she's trying to see the shade but over the course this entire scene the shade keeps on moving and she keeps having to slide down the wall And that was the funniest thing where she's like, I'm mad at you. Now let me rearrange myself to stay in the shadows.

5:01Ronnie Karam: Thank you. She has to keep moving as the line of shade keeps moving. And it's going downhill on a cobblestone thing on a brick wall or whatever.

5:10Ben Mandelker: So she's like, ooh. Eventually she gives up. She's like, let's walk. Please.

5:16Ronnie Karam: Let's just move. Honey, I don't know. We have anything going on between us. I just know that I've been told that Kyle is having conversations about me being erratic and being leet and spending too much. Well, erratic might have been too strong of a word. Okay, maybe like erratic was too strong of a word. Maybe psychopathic. I don't know.

5:39Ben Mandelker: Erratic was probably too strong of a word, which is why I will use it several more times later this episode when we fight again. But, yeah, psychopath, crazy, cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs. How do you say in Italian totally deranged? so Dorit's like, hmm. It's like, look, I didn't really mean to use that word, okay? The word I meant to use was total fucking bitch, okay? And I said, like, you may be having just, like, a little bit of OCD. I'm like, oh, so that's somehow better? Dr. Kyle Richards, a therapist at large. And he's like, look, look, look. The lateness just has felt disrespectful. And I love you.

6:16Ben Mandelker: I don't want anything bad for you. I don't even want you to fall off the side of this wall. Although if that did happen, it would be kind of funny. You might die, but it would be hilarious, right, guys?

6:24Ronnie Karam: And I liked Erica in this moment because she's just telling her, yeah, it's the lateness. Like, okay, Kyle's saying whatever, but you're late and it's rude. Like, just say that because that's all really anybody has a point about. So, Dorit's like, but Erica, am I being a rootic? Am I? Am I being rootic? And she's like, well, I mean, you seem overwhelmed. Thank you. Thank you, Erica. Thank you.

6:47Ben Mandelker: Dorit, Dorit, why are you juggling those pebbles right now? I don't know. I just decided to do it in the moment. Erratic! So Kyle's like, that's just what I said. I said erratic might have been too strong of a word. Why is it okay that she can say it, but I can't? And Dorit's like, one moment, I need to reposition myself deeper into the shade. Okay, what were you saying? That was so erratic. I can't believe you're moving into the shade like that. What a crazy person. Someone call a 5150 on her.

7:14Ronnie Karam: But here's what's not cool. Like, I can say something that makes you mad, but then bros will say something. Like she said your finances were in a dire situation When did she say that?

7:23Ben Mandelker: She did say that? Even Erica's like, what?

7:27Ronnie Karam: Yeah, I mean, what was the word she used? Like erratic finances? Erratic, dire, poor, poor, poor, descomisado I think she said descomisado Erica goes, wait, what? When was I there? Kyle's like, goddammit, Erica Well, it come to me that you had concerns about me So come to me Come to me, Coyle

7:48Ben Mandelker: you know what I loved actually this this is what I was like oh it's a good Kyle episode because when Dorit said if you had concerns about me come to me and when she said come to me Kyle just goes come to me because the Kyle knew Dorit was gonna say that and Kyle just like parrots it with this like she bobs her head back and forth because it's such a cliche on reality tv if like next time come to me and I love the way Kyle was like oh stupid bullshit it's just mocking her and like

8:13Ronnie Karam: making faces and stuff. Like, I'm not on Kyle's side in this fight,

8:18Ben Mandelker: but I did enjoy that bit of mockery.

8:20Ronnie Karam: Well, at least she's got some life, which is more than we can say for the past few seasons. So, Dorit's like, well, the only thing that a friend of mine has come to me with is that you have consoins. Okay, Quayle? And Erica's like, well, look, I feel that anything anybody comes to you with, including myself, is immediately met with defensiveness or something. I understand it. You go through a tough time, blah blah blah blah blah my question is did you walk in after time had been robbed and somebody stole his eye bomb then he fell down the hill and his car was on fire come on look there was my

8:55Ben Mandelker: tough time i was very defensive and i acted horribly towards everybody i'll be non-waterproof mascara what was i even thinking drew it's like yes so you understand then that when you're going through a tough time and the friends that you're leaning on for support are coming at you not out of concern i'm like yeah but you should also understand that when someone's acting like the way eric acted or the way kyle acted that people are going to ask questions you know so it does go both ways so kyle's like what who's coming at you dorit who's coming at you which is funny that kyle's asking that when she's literally coming for coming at her this very moment and both of

9:27Ronnie Karam: them are like who who oh me who who who oh well you guys and now erica has an issue with me coil you have an issue with me well look i'm having an honest conversation with you about my feelings

9:41Ben Mandelker: okay so screw me all right which i appreciate like okay so you appreciate her but like you're mad at me i'm so sick of this share with you dorit and dorit yeah kyle because you're the

9:51Ronnie Karam: one going behind her back talking to her about everybody which is her point erica's not you are

9:57Ben Mandelker: coil you do it every time and you do it so well and it's just it's like scary kyle it's very scary So Kyle are now like, they're squabbling over, talking over each other. And Kyle's like, okay, so it's okay for Bose to say something. Here's the thing, Kyle. I trust Bose. I don't trust you.

10:13Ronnie Karam: Kyle's like, argh. Yeah, good for her. Because Bose didn't even say any of that stuff. You said it and tried to get Bose to agree with you so then you could turn around and use it against her. You're so sneaky and snaky. And I'm so glad she's being called out. And I loved when she said, I trust Bose. I don't trust you. Boozoo. And it's just like, you asshole. And Kyle's like, un-fucking-believable Duri is like up Buzz's ass And it's a little outpudding Little outpudding

10:40Ben Mandelker: Last year, it was trust issues With the whole texting PK thing This year, we're supposed to be Working back to trusting one another But how can I trust someone Who is talking about me behind my own back? So Kyle's like, um, I've given you Nothing to not trust me about Except for the fact that I call everyone in our group And tell them how erratic you are behind your back

11:00Ronnie Karam: You've given me every reason not to trust you Kyle Tell me then, tell me what it is Cause you're the first one that read my text for millions of people to see Oh god Kyle you're bringing that up from two reunions ago

11:13Ben Mandelker: Oh for Christ's sake Oh my god that was like the The way that Kyle Has tried to latch onto that To excuse her own Bad behavior in this friendship Is so shitty And she's going right back to it yet again And so we say, oh, we're going to go back. But I love when Dorit does this. This is her favorite gesture is when she does the, oh, we're going to go back. Because she does this every now and then. She like throws her whole body. She goes, oh, we're going to go back. Is that what we're going to do? We're going to go back. We're going to go back. Yeah, well, hello.

11:43Ronnie Karam: Where do you think the mistrust came from? She's like, well, when you were going through changes and going through soon thing, vagina, and you weren't being honest about it, I didn't go behind your back and express conjoined coil.

11:55Ben Mandelker: Bose asked me what was happening. So I shared with her. and I'm not saying anything that the rest of the group hasn't already said. And by the way, Rachel's already said those things. Yeah, cool school in the group. She also believes it too. So who's the loser now? You are. And I love to rape her staying calm here

12:10Ronnie Karam: and she just does her squint and she like does her finger thing where she like closes everything with all her five fingers. She's like, is it possible for us to just talk about all friendship, Coyle? She's like, I'm not going to be singled out when everyone else is saying the same thing. You are the one saying it to everyone and you are the only one saying it. You are the one who's going to be singled out and she's not even singling you out. You brought her to this abandoned, godforsaken place. I know.

12:38Ben Mandelker: This godforsaken, gorgeous place. Kyle is, what makes Kyle fascinating after everything, after all the shit we talk, like, oh God, it's time for Kyle to go. What makes her always compelling to me is that she is torn between two things. She yearns desperately to be the alpha, to be the queen bee of a situation, but she doesn't have the confidence to really be that person. And I think it's because she was the younger sister and she always had to take care of Kim. Like Kim was the famous one, the more famous one. And Kyle was tasked by Big Kathy to always look out for your big sister because like Kyle's responsible one.

13:18Ben Mandelker: So Kyle's always been under someone and she always yearns to not be under someone. But then when she is exposed in all the light, like that's the space that she's not used to because she normally gets to be behind someone. And when she's up there, she sort of spins out. She always kind of wants to be an alpha. And then she's up there and then retreats behind a true alpha. And so when she does this stuff, when she goes around and rallies the troops about one person, that's actually an extension of this behavior in my mind. because she can't just sit in her truth of saying, I think you're being shitty.

13:53Ben Mandelker: She needs to make sure she's like, and everyone thinks so too. So that way everyone can protect me if this all comes down on me. Like, oh, you don't get mad at me. We all believe it. So she can kind of recede into the group again. And so it's so fascinating the way Kyle goes between these two places of like wanting to be the main one, but she just, when she's there, she sort of like loses her mind. she always has to recede back i you know put simply the crown is heavy darling the crown is heavy it's too heavy for kyle she cannot do it she really can't yeah so dorit's like well listen um

14:31Ronnie Karam: if anybody wants to she said bose did not voice her concerns to me and so if she went to you with concerns or frustrations i have a problem with it and just like i have a problem with you bringing concerns to bows and not me so if that if bows did do that i'll have a problem with her but right now we're talking about you kyle and so now she's doing her thing again where she's like coil is doing everything but owning her own opinion and she's getting more and more heated at me trying to deflect from her being such a short friend and bringing my other friends into the situation is she still chewing a candy i can't tell what she's doing she keeps like

15:15Ben Mandelker: sucking you know i'm overwhelmed and i'm going through a lot and you just said you understand it's like yeah yeah of course i understand so you can't show me some grace kyle she's like well i mean i have been showing you some grace and that's why i didn't say anything to anything yet she's like well you've said it to other people well yeah but we've all we've all said it and this isn't something that you're, you're supposed to get defensive about, but you're the one, you're the one screaming coil. It's like, well, okay, well fine. So at this point they've now stood up and they've been walking and they've arrived at this random in the middle of nowhere gelato guy, like literally not a soul in this town.

15:49Ben Mandelker: There's no evidence of even any stores. It's just like old buildings with windows that are high up. And there's like not even a commercial district. And somehow this little gelato stand with these like tubes of, of cones is just there with a umbrella and be like okay now we'll have our gelato yeah it's all expired there's not been

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19:07Ronnie Karam: So, Dorit's like, well, I'd like to have a conversation about how you have such a tooth time showing me support coil. Well, do you ever ask about mowing me ever? because I'm separated and we were married a lot longer than you and PK. Okay, so now it's the competition on marriage. Okay, your marriage was the strongest, Kyle, and nobody can ask you a fucking thing because you cry about it and say that they're not allowed to because you're allowed to go through things in your own time, Kyle. Yeah. They've tried asking you about it.

19:34Ben Mandelker: And you also say you guys have, like, the best separation ever. So, like, what is there else to ask? Also, Mauricio is there all the time. There's, like, nothing to ask about. I'm surprised he didn't show up. I'm surprised, like, when they got to the gelato stand, like, we'll have a gelato, please. is like mariso didn't turn around with like two cones and he's like oh hey ladies hey marisa how's

19:51Ronnie Karam: it going it's i just happened to be in the neighborhood you know this guy is maybe going to try and sell his gelato stand or whatever so you know fix the moldings i told him and by the way two years crying about people asking about her relationship two years three years has it been three and now she's like would you ever even ask about us so she goes oh yes but You always say everything is perfect. And you even seem that you don't even want to talk about it. So when you were the priest, you told us after the food. How do you meet your support? How do you measure it? 5 ,000, 2 ,500, 600 minutes, Quail.

20:32Okay.

20:33Ben Mandelker: Yeah, that's how long my last run was. I at least ask you questions. So now they're like, they all have their gelato, by the way. This guy, they probably told him, like, you have to be here. these people are going to shoot and he's been waiting there for hours and they show up there they're screaming at each other and then he just has to sit there watch watch them i was surprised they even ate their gelato to be to be frank so they're walking around with the gelato and they're now like talking over each other and dorit's like erica please and she's like oh please what i'm not doing this erica i'm i'm trying to i'm talking to kyle about issues i have with kyle and you're interjecting she's like well i'm gonna do it i'm not gonna stop talking unless i'm eating my gelato Which I got into it in a cup and not a cone Because you guys are animals You're going to have gelato on your fingers During the middle of your fight Well I don't want you to stop talking Erika

21:21Ronnie Karam: She's like well you're not going to make me stop talking ever Ever She does a staccato thing where Erika decides to be mad for no reason She's like ever Ever

21:32Ben Mandelker: Well that's what you think I want you to do You think I want you to make you stop talking It's like well right now yeah

21:38Ronnie Karam: It does sort of feel like that

21:39Ben Mandelker: She's like alright let's go

21:42Ronnie Karam: I'm not going anywhere. Well, I am.

21:44Ben Mandelker: Go fuck yourself. So Dreet takes her gelato and goes over to the van and they just watch her and she's like, where are you going? And they leave.

21:53Ronnie Karam: Andiamo! Buca di peppo! Bene regatta, puttana! I think I was like,

22:01Ben Mandelker: she really just left us here? They are left in the middle of the Brigadoon of Italy.

22:08Ronnie Karam: I mean, she did but this show thinks we're all morons i mean there there's another twin black van right next to it like there's nobody else in this town and there's another mercedes van exactly like that one right next to it but they're like oh my god she left us now we have to get an italian uber oh my god she speaks italian we don't even speak italian oh everybody better come correct to tell her exactly what they've been saying to me because that's not gonna work but that's gonna work

22:37Ben Mandelker: all these women are claiming to be closer than they actually are with to read but other them actually want to do the dirty work they just tell her that what she wants to hear and i'm not going to kiss her ass because real friends are honest i love kyle saying i'm doing the dirty work with to read i go get gelato with her in a beautiful little city the dirty work their dirtiest of work a scenic vista while having a cool refreshment so then they make it look like kyle and eric are

23:02Ronnie Karam: waiting on the side of the road for some Uber or something. And then the twin Mercedes, the black Mercedes van picks them up. They're like, oh, my God, thank God we got this Italian Uber. God, you guys. So then we go back to the villa and they're like, oh, my God, should we find her? And in the dining room, Erica's like, wow, I haven't even had a follow-up with Dorit since Hong Kong. That was like eight years ago. And then we see a flashback to 2016 on the junk boat. Yes. It's like, you're the only one who I haven't managed to connect with. Eureka? Okay.

23:35Ben Mandelker: Because I don't like bullshit, Doreen, and that's what I think you are, bullshit. Because, of course, that was Doreen's first season when she and P.K. The whole season was about a joke that P.K. made about Eureka's panties or lack thereof.

23:47Ronnie Karam: Yeah, when P.K. was ogling her vag under her dress. P.K. is such a fucking pig. That was both of their first seasons, right? Didn't they come on the first season?

23:57Ben Mandelker: I think that was maybe Eureka's second. It was either her second or her third season. I think it was her second season. Wow. So now everyone else arrives at the villa and Kyle's like, so guys, basically the conversation got intense and she didn't like what we said, so she just left us at the place. Well, where is she now? We don't know. She could be anywhere in Italy, but the conversation that you and I had and the Camptons came up, thanks a lot, by the way. She's like, yes. I told her everyone shares the same sentiment and she's been late and all over the place. And Bo's like, Kyle, I don't appreciate being dragged into this because I only expressed concerns based off of your concerns.

24:34Ben Mandelker: And guess what? I took those concerns directly to Dorit. But by the way, I want to say one thing though. This happens not just on this show, but on all these shows where people, something happens, then people talk to their castmates about it because they need to vent and they need also the producers to probably like talk to so-and-so at lunch about this. And then it becomes a thing. And then there's a confrontation and the confrontation ends. Next time when you have a concern, just bring it to me directly. And everyone says that, but the person who's like on the receiving end of it acts like they themselves also have been talking about the other person to everyone else.

25:09Ben Mandelker: So everyone talks to everyone else. And so it's just so funny how time and time again, they will get on these shows and they will just say like, I went directly to the person. It's like, no, you guys all talk shit about each other behind each other's backs at all time. I want at some point someone to say, yeah, well, I'll bring it to you eventually, but I have to talk about my friends to my friends about it first because that's what humans do.

25:31Ronnie Karam: Well, but in this case, Kyle is calling people to talk shit about Dorit. And then she's being like, I'm worried about Dorit. Dorit has OCD. Dorit is overspending. Dorit's doing all of this stuff. And then Bo's is like, oh, my gosh, well, that's concerning. And then Kyle takes out and is like, even Bo said she was concerned about you. And she's tricking everybody. And so I think they're like, no, you're not going to do that shit with us, Kyle. We've seen her do it multiple times over multiple. Even this season, she's done it multiple times. And I think she's like, no. and she's like and when you gave me the concerns about Dorit I went straight to Dorit and talked to Dorit about it so fuck off with this Kyle for sure Kyle is um well she's doing the thing that I

26:10Ben Mandelker: was just saying before she is going around and she's trying to build a case and and and rally the troops and circle the wagons against not circle the wagons just rally the troops against Dorit but it just in general as like a general note on all these shows it's just so funny that everyone, like, time and time again, they make declarations of, next time, come to me directly. And then the thing is that when people do come to people directly, then they get into fights. So it's just, you know, it's just, like, part of the nature of this.

26:37Ronnie Karam: How dare you come to me with this? You come to me? Said this? She's like, yeah. And, you know, like, I also brought up Rachel, you know, like, how she had anxiety over lateness. Remember, Rachel? Remember? And Rachel's like, um, yeah. Here's the thing, guys. Like, I've known Dorit for, like, two months. And like, I just have to assume that this is like how she's always been. Like she's in a house and I'm there, but like she can open doors and I can't. I just like pass through them because I'm dead.

27:06Ben Mandelker: Literally dead. I can't even say Beetlejuice. It's so scary for me.

27:10Ronnie Karam: Yeah, but the point is you even noticed her behavior is being stressful. Yes, Kyle. But being annoyed with someone being late is a very small part of this. And you're turning it into everybody saying that Dorit is losing her mind. It's very different. And Rachel's like, I mean, look, 100%. I can't live like that. I can't even be dead like that. You know, like, it would give me a panic attack. You know, my heart doesn't even beat. But, you know, like, I have other friends who can live like that and do that. So, you know, I just assume Dorit's been, like, the same way, like, as long as you've known her.

27:41Ronnie Karam: Like, I don't know for a fact that this is new behavior for her. And this is Rachel subtly saying, I had to watch some of this show. and Dorit's always been like, don't drag me into this shit, girl. I'm not coming out on this train either. You can't get Bose and you're not going to get me either.

27:56Ben Mandelker: Yeah, I think Rachel does not want to be dragged into this at all. I think she does not like this from Kyle. I think this will actually, I sense that like Rachel's the sort of person who she's not terribly confrontational, but what's going to happen is that Rachel will start to distance herself from Kyle because she's not going to like this being dragged into it. But also when Rachel says, I know people who operate on their own clocks. I kind of feel like she's talking about celebrities and celebrity clients who she just has to like work around. I know she doesn't style anymore because she can't trust assistants because broad.

28:31Ben Mandelker: But like in a weird way, the vibe I got was she was kind of protecting her celebrity friends. Like no, I'm not mad at my celebrity friends. Of course not. They take their own time and that's okay. I'm totally fine with that.

28:42Ronnie Karam: Yeah, I think she's like she's late but it's like we're in Hollywood.

28:46Ben Mandelker: And so she's like, yeah, Dorit is not dirty is not wealthy enough or famous enough to be as late as she is. I think that's also the other thing, because, you know, Kathy will be late and they'll be like, oh, Kathy, isn't it hilarious? But it's like, wait, we're not going to wait for to read. No, that's crazy.

29:01Ronnie Karam: So Rachel saying, yeah, look, I've commented that she's late, but I'm not chiming in about her being, you know, about worried about her finances or spending. I mean, that's or that she's not mentally stable. you know she's like because i don't know that to be true and you know i think there needs to be a pretty clear line of who's considered like you all she's like who is you all like who is we all because like who's we all who's we all i'm not part of it who's we all is part of y 'all i'm not

29:28Ben Mandelker: part of that if we're going to be in the all like sky and kaios have to be part of it like i don't

29:32Ronnie Karam: do anything without my kids yeah so for the second time this season we see a clear distancing Rachel's like uh-uh I'm not getting on this Kyle train so Kyle's like well I don't know how tonight's gonna go but like I have a feeling that like everyone else she's gonna be like um I know you're just coming from a place of concern but then she's only gonna be mean to me yeah because you've been

29:51Ben Mandelker: untrustworthy in the past you were texting with her ex like there's no reason for Dorit to ever think that you're coming from a good place versus a fishing place like you've you've burned that

30:02Ronnie Karam: bridge unfortunately you're also starting it on this trip she didn't start with you on this trip Like, what are you doing? You're starting it. So, um, Boza's like, don't do your imitations of her. She goes, no, I'm not going to do imitations. I mean, if I did, it would involve accents, multiple accents. Whoops! And no one laughs.

30:20Ben Mandelker: I was so ready to do an accent.

30:23Ronnie Karam: I just love that the whole cast basically is just staring at Kyle like, ooh, it's like cringe. They're already cringing, and Kyle is not picking up on the social cues. So now everybody's getting dolled up for dinner, and then, um, uh they're getting into cars you know amanda's joking that dorit's going to be late and all this stuff and so rachel and dorit ride together and rachel's talking to dorit about the conversation you know that kyle just had with everybody and dorit's like oh well coil is driving trying to drive a wedge between me and whomever else in the group and i do not like blue cheese on iceberg And I've had it.

31:02Ronnie Karam: I've had it with Quill.

31:05Ben Mandelker: I've had too much of it. And then we see a series of scenes of Kyle talking about Dorit. It's just like, oh my God, Bose, like she's manic. Oh my God, Rachel, Dorit has OCD. Oh my God, Amanda, like Dorit's like all over the place. Oh my God, Sutton, like Dorit's like erratic and a little all over the place. Oh my God, she's crazy. She's going to blow any moment. She's going to blow America. Be careful. Please send help. Please send help.

31:28Ronnie Karam: If she can get the entire group on the opposite side of me, then she will feel victorious.

31:39Ben Mandelker: So then Kyle is now with Bose and Jennifer and Amanda in another car. And she's like, even though everyone is thinking and saying the same thing, she always gets so mad at me. And she'll let it slide with everyone else. And I'm just like, I'm tired of it. I've been a really good friend and I'm sick of the narrative that I'm not being a good friend. And so you're saying that the person, you being, like she's lashing out at the person who's closest to her. Like you're saying that, Kyle, you're saying that Dorit is being nice to everyone else, but the person who's closest to her, the person who is most entwined in her group, that's the one she's lashing out at.

32:15Ben Mandelker: Can we just roll the footage of season one of You Stole My Goddamn House? I just, can we just, you're an alcoholic, Kim. Can we just roll that please for a second? Oh my gosh.

32:23Ronnie Karam: So Jennifer's like, well, I think that she's just wound tight about her home situation. And she's just trying to appear to keep it all together. Yeah, but we're all noticing these things. Right, girls? Right, right. And is it that big of a deal? I mean, no. I mean, so she's crazy. So she's OCD. So she's erratic. So she needs to be in a straight jacket. I mean, what is the big deal is that she's only annoyed with me about it. No one else is talking about it, Kyle. No one else cares. Please. So now we go to Dorit and Rachel's car And Dorit's like To me it doesn't come off as concealer It just looks like someone looking to Win things up This friendship sucks Okay

33:04Ben Mandelker: Wow Wow you're really You're like really winding right now You're like that kaleidoscope in Sedona Just like rotating This friendship sucks Like it fucking sucks It's like a bullshit friendship Like this is not a girl friendship. Like it sucks. Like it's dead. It's done. I'm over it. It's dead. Yes. I'm not getting any enjoyment out of it. Like, I don't know how you have a friendship where you can't trust each other or any relationship where you can't trust each other. Like I can't even have a relationship with my gardener if I can't trust him. Like, right. Cause he's just going to like kill all my fucking flowers.

33:41Ben Mandelker: Like my flowers will be dead. It's one thing for me to be dead, but for my flowers to be dead, like I can't, like I literally cannot.

33:48Ronnie Karam: And if I can't trust my gardener, who am I going to give my caftans to? It's like the vision of passing Rachel's house and there's just a gardener out there in a feathered caftan. She's like, Louise, you've done great work for me for 10 years.

34:05Ben Mandelker: I bestow you this caftan. Dead.

34:08Ronnie Karam: This is vintage coach. So now the women get to this train car that goes up a mountain thing, like a gondola type thing. And so they get it and we don't even get any of it. I thought we were going to get like a big fight in a gondola or something, but nope, we just arrived at the restaurant.

34:23Ben Mandelker: It did look like we're going to have a funicular moment because there was, there was this awkwardness because Kyle was sitting in one part of it and Dorit was like at the, like, like sitting like above her. And I thought like, Ooh, are they going to have a, a multi-level fight in a funicular, multi-level funicular fight? Like, cause this could be iconic. Like, Oh my God, the funicular fight. No, they just get to the top. And Kyle's like, Oh my God, we're so high. Oh my God, We're really high up. Oh, there was also a moment earlier where when they were driving back from the city where there was like a fly in the car.

34:52Ben Mandelker: And Kyle's like, oh, there's a fly, there's a fly, there's a fly. So Dorit is somehow she got herself car sick in this funicular that's only going in one direction and not actually curving. She's like, oh, I feel sick after that funicular. It's too much for me. So they get there to this restaurant.

35:09Ronnie Karam: Uh-oh, Dorit needs help. Dorit's losing it. She can't be in a funicular. I think she's on drugs. Oh, my God, guys. so they go in and Jennifer's like wow hello everybody actor Jennifer I mean Jennifer what's her face hey can you just send us over the best wine please we're very fancy people can you tell by the way

35:32Ben Mandelker: why isn't Jennifer I feel like Jennifer Tilly should be in the White Lotus you just said Jennifer Coolidge but I feel like Jennifer Tilly should be and I'm worried what'd you say one day but you know I'm worried that Mike White like doesn't watch Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. I feel like he's like not a Real Housewives gay. He's just strictly a CBS like Survivor Amazing Race gay.

35:52Ronnie Karam: Well, that's actually good because he probably wouldn't put on like a reality star in a lead role, but he would put a real actor and she's an Academy Award nominee and she's still in shows. Yeah.

36:02Ben Mandelker: But then she probably is like too close to the Jennifer Coolidge mold, but she should be on White Lotus. Like it feels very... And by the way, they were playing like full on White Lotus music during this episode. Like, you could hear the voice going, I was like, okay, settle down, bravo. This is not the White Lotus. You're in a funicular.

36:22Ronnie Karam: Well, I would like to order gnocchi contrafuli contrafuli contrafuli contrafuli contrafuli contrafuli contrafuli contrafuli All right, lady.

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37:01Ronnie Karam: empty nester very emotional he has saved the last stuck almond joy from that machine and it's very emotional. They're like, yeah, no one cares. Sometimes you feel like a nut.

37:14Ben Mandelker: Sometimes you don't. But now, there will be no option for me. The nuts have left. Thank you. And they play this sad music and it's like, aw. And then the scene just keeps on going. I was like, was this supposed to be her storyline? Did they just decide to cut this entire storyline? They're like, okay, we'll just give her one little token speech and we'll move on. Yeah.

37:35Ronnie Karam: Yeah, Sutton's not killing it with the storylines. so then kathy gives a toast and she's like i would just like to offer a toast please take it they worked hard on this bread they put it in an oven and made it hard please eat it you're gluten free is that a is that a celiacal or is it just is it really a thing you know i don't i don't know that i trust that really nothing's free in life i'll tell you that right now all right kathy sit the fuck down well thanks this is beautiful and very special commercials here comes one right now man sometimes sheets like they pile up or they start thinning or fraying or like just fall off the bed too easily or you'll feel like you're overheating and guys that is the sign that it's time to upgrade to bowl and branch yeah because sometimes

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41:21Ronnie Karam: I hate assistants.

41:23Ben Mandelker: Can I say something, guys? It just feels awkward and weird that we're, like, not acknowledging, like, what happened today, guys? What? Oh, that you guys got gelato? It is weird. I thought you guys were on a low-carb diet. No, not that. Not that. Okay. So, Dreet.

41:38Ronnie Karam: I like that Dervin Boz goes, oh, Lord, here we go.

41:42Ben Mandelker: Dreet? You left. And she's like, Well, I left because I didn't feel conversational. It felt deflective. It didn't feel gentle. It felt aggressive. What was deflective?

41:53Ronnie Karam: Well, I kept wanting to talk about how you're feeling about our friendship. And you kept bringing it back to the group.

42:00Ben Mandelker: Well, because everyone shares the same sentiment.

42:03Ronnie Karam: Right, right. I did hear you say that, Kyle. You said it multiple times. Stirring, stirring, stirring. boring you brought rachel and bo's into it as well quail as well but it was it was nothing

42:18Ben Mandelker: malicious or mean it was just like you know me trying to create a little gang so we could gang up on you like how can you gang up without the gang okay it was just an observation that rachel and i talked about the airport and like mainly rachel and rachel was like really like the headline is like you are late and then she called jennifer gardner was like oh my god jennifer gardner like jorita is late like i'm just like these are things that happen it wasn't malicious whoa whoa whoa

42:39Ronnie Karam: whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Can we get Haley Joel Osment in here? Because I need someone to see a dead person, okay? I don't want to be confused. Like my frustration with anyone who is late, like Dorit or anyone, like it gives me overall feeling that someone else's time is more valuable than like someone else's time.

42:55Ben Mandelker: Who's not as valuable as like someone else's. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. See what she said. And like in the Hamptons, you said like we're running on Dorit's time. Remember when you said that? You said you're running on Dorit's time. I remember we laughed so hard and you were like probably like, you're like, Kyle, you're probably like the best friend I have out here. Remember when you said that? Right, right, right, Jill? Huh? Huh?

43:12Ronnie Karam: God, this is so weak. And Rachel's like, yeah, like, and I've said that to Dorit. I was like, oh my God, you're on your like own time that we run on. I learned that in Sedona.

43:22Ben Mandelker: Well, there's nothing that Rachel has said just now that she hasn't already said to me directly. And the part that you're missing is that I'll address Rachel's issues with Rachel and Bo's issues with Bo's.

43:34Ronnie Karam: Well, when everyone's saying the same thing, I'm like, I'm not going to have you single me out all the time, Doreen. Like, I'm not going to have that. Like, everyone. You are singling her out again. She didn't bring you up. She didn't even mention you. You are turning the whole dinner into being about her. Yeah.

43:48Ben Mandelker: It's like, look, everyone seems to be off the hook. I'm not off the hook. Also, you know what's not off the hook? My music, no hooks. So, Doreen's like. I'm not hooks.

43:59Ronnie Karam: Never found a hook. Hook, line, and stinker. How many hooks do I give? Zero. None. Actually, that was a hook. All right, never mind. I give myself some credit.

44:12Ben Mandelker: It was a great journey for me.

44:15Ronnie Karam: When Boaz came to me after Houghtons and she said Quail had said the reed was acting erudic, Kyle and I had been sleeping ten feet from each other for four days, and if there was any concern, I would have thought that Quail would have Pinka-dong-a-dong-a-dong come to me during four days that we were together and said, how are you doing? Because I'm worried about you. And that, Nova, she pins.

44:40Ben Mandelker: Well, we were having fun and we had the best time. Why would I say it when it didn't seem like the right time? Because you didn't feel like it was the time to do... You didn't feel it was the time to speak to me about it, but it was a good time to speak to Boz about it. Yeah, it was a great time.

44:54Ronnie Karam: You wouldn't speak to her, but you called Boz. Fucking Kyle. It was a great time. Because like, it was more like you were like erratic, like all over the place, like erratic. I meant it that time. So like not even getting out of the car in town today, like you're in the bag for 10 minutes, you know?

45:09Ben Mandelker: And we see this footage of when they arrived at the ghost town. Dorit was like getting stuff out of her bag for like 10 minutes. And she's like going and finding every charger and rearranging things. And then like after what has clearly been like seven or eight minutes, she goes, you're not waiting for me, are you? No, they're observing the car. They're taking in the beauty of this van.

45:27Ronnie Karam: But it's like things like that that make me wonder like what's going on and I really don't care about your spending like I do what you want. I don't care. You know, I don't care about that. Oh, well, thank you, coil. And I don't think it's anyone else's business what I'm spawning or buying. And if there is concern, I would appreciate if it was directed towards me.

45:45Ben Mandelker: Well, it's been brought up by others who share the same concern. Oh, well, I can see what Kyle is doing. She's trying to rally support for her opinion. So it seems more palatable to Dorit. In reality, she should just stand on her own opinions instead of trying to pull everybody else in.

45:59Ronnie Karam: And by the way, I have to just point out again, everyone at this dinner is sitting there cringing. They're looking at Kyle like, oh, my God, because she's trying to get everyone to fight and no one will fight. They're just all looking at her like, oh, awkward. Even Natalie is like, oh, God, I'm like the most awkward person here. And this is even awkward for me. And Kyle is just getting more and more worked up and her eyes are crossing more and more. And she's just doing that head bobbing thing that she does. And it's just getting so uncomfortable. And it is hilarious. I mean, it is so good. And Dorit's like, Quill, you've expressed concern behind my bick.

46:33Ronnie Karam: And Kyle's like, just stop. Stop, okay? Stop.

46:37Ben Mandelker: Basically, what I'm hearing from Kyle is that she's been talking to Rachel and Boz and the entire group about me. And what's the common denominator here, people? Kyle.

46:51Ronnie Karam: And she goes, Cole. she does like these double jazz hands like chicago she's like car so carl's like um i don't care what you i don't care that you bought a kelly bag with your book advancement just well it seems like you do cool i don't care bose is the one

47:11Ben Mandelker: who cared about the kelly i said it one time bose did it was bose it was bose all along

47:16Ronnie Karam: she did not care what are you talking about she just said like oh she left a kelly on the back on the counter or something like that. So, Bose is just watching her like, you are ridiculous. So, Kyle, Dorit just holds her eyes. She's like, oh my God, I can't. And Kyle is like literally cross-eyed and manic and crazy looking. And Dorit's like, please stop saying that you don't care about something when you've just mentioned it a million times. She goes, oh my God, quit writing my ass all the time, Dorit.

47:43Ben Mandelker: Oh my gosh. And to be continued, will they be able to settle their differences? We'll find out next week. But until then, thanks everyone for being here. We appreciate you. What a funny episode. And we will catch you on the next episode of Watch What Crappens. Bye. Bye. Watch What Crappens would like to thank its premium sponsors. Ain't no thing like Alison King. Our way is the Amber way. It's the Foster and the Furious. It's Amanda Foster. It's Always Automatic with Ashley Otto. Put your hands together for Carly Clapp. Get on the right foot with Chrissy Offord.

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