#3289 Summer House S10E9 Part One: Training Old Yeller

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1:55Ben Mandelker: Who cares what happens when there's so much that crappens? It's so funny. Watch what crappens. Oh, well, you can't be the crappens. Who cares what happens when there's so much that crappens?

2:08Ronnie Karam: Well, hello, and welcome to Watch What Crappens. I'm Ronnie, and that's Ben. Hi, Ben.

2:14Ben Mandelker: Hi. Oh, and there's Dominique. That's Dom.

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2:30Ronnie Karam: It's so lovely. Well, good. You know, open us with some true love on this dark, dark summer house day. Welcome to summer house. Just real quick. If you want this on video or you want bonus episodes, this week was a really long, really fun Survivor recap. Or you want Discord server access to talk to everybody, listeners, Bravo fans. or you want our free newsletter, which is a weekly blog making fun of Bravo shows, just go sign up at patreon.com slash watch what crap happens. And thanks so much to everybody who is over there. We love you guys. This coming Monday is going to be crappy hour live at 530 Pacific time, which I'm sure we'll be going over all this Amanda West news and other stuff.

3:13Ronnie Karam: And our Amazon lives are every Monday at 130 Pacific time. So there, there's all our plugs.

3:21Ben Mandelker: all the plugs wow we are we have more plugs than a turkish hair process yeah we have more plugs than mike on below deck down under yes yeah i wish i could have landed that joke a little bit better um how can you how can you land jokes when there's so much drama in there uh speaking below deck if you didn't listen to our below deck episode yesterday that was when we had our dun dun dun dun breaking news about amanda and kyle kyle i'm sorry west uh that amanda's infamous uh ig story broke she published it about five seconds before we went live so we read it live on the air there we had our initial impressions so if you want to hear what we felt like if you want to hear the the amount that we were gagged and gooped uh you can listen to our below deck episode but of course we're probably going to be talking about this all week long and for the next several weeks because it's now going to be a thing and so today's headlines that i saw of course i went to page six and um the first thing that i saw was that west was in a committed relationship with an influencer named montana girl um and oh my god you cheated on montana girl on montana girl So now we can elevate this up to the level of affair.

4:41Ben Mandelker: So congratulations to this scandal. Second of all, Bethany Frankel weighed in. Because Page Six, for some reason, tracks everything Bethany Frankel says. And she pretty much says things to be tracked by Page Six. So they have a great relationship. And basically, Bethany Frankel was like, What? There's like two single people that made out. That consented adults. Like, move on. Like, what's the big deal? Huh? Huh? Huh? Like, who cares? So what? Who cares? Huh? What? I was like, okay.

5:07Ronnie Karam: Typical hypocritical Bethany who had a fit over multiple people dating Tom years ago. Yeah. Typical Bethany. Typical. I saw a, yeah, I saw a few things. I saw that Wes and Amanda have been dating for a long time. And not only that, he is not just with Amanda. He's with multiple people and was not dating anybody really. So she's just kind of one of many. And then I saw Dave Portnoy. Did you see him? Yes. I didn't watch it.

5:38Ben Mandelker: I'm not going to sit and watch a Dave Portnoy video, but I did watch what page six.

5:42Ronnie Karam: I did. Someone sent a link to me. So I watched his TikTok because I don't I don't I don't know. I'm not like a barstool sports. I'm sure that I'm not in their, you know, desire for the demographic. I don't think they're really coming from my viewership. But I just don't watch it because it's like dudes. It's like West to me. It's like thousands of Wests is how I think of it. I don't know if that's accurate or not. So I'm not dissing it. That's just how I think of it. It's like vintage Carl. Yeah. Vintage Carl, vintage Kyle, that kind of guy. And so remember, they used to wear the hats and Jack's wears the hats.

6:16So no,

6:16Ben Mandelker: that's where Saturdays for the boys came from. I think, I think that was a saying with, with Barstool sports, all stars for the boys, for the boys.

6:25Ronnie Karam: Softer. That did not come from Barstool sports. Softer.

6:28Ben Mandelker: That came from, softer.

6:32Ronnie Karam: from like warm futon sports car sports again from carl sport carlstool sports uh so yeah i watched his thing i was cracking up he's sitting on a beach somewhere and he's you know like all sun he looks like a pirate he looks like a weathered pirate and he's like yeah you know i yeah you know i'm not i'm not like that gossip queen kind of guy anymore you know because like like i'm older like I'm sitting on a beach now trying to get some sun. But, you know, everybody's bothering me about this West thing. You know, like, I don't know West. You know, I mean, I kind of know West because, like, we were trying to do a podcast with him and, you know, that girl, and it didn't work out because her agent's a pain in the ass.

7:13Ronnie Karam: Anyway, but, you know, I knew about this West Amanda stuff because, you know, Brianna Chicken Fry. There's a name you don't hear every day. Brianna, you know, she told me, you know, at the Super Bowl, she was like, yeah, you know, that West is dating that Amanda girl. It's going to be a big story. I mean, I don't care. You know, like I know that Tom Brady is dating, you know, the call-a-daddy chick. What do I care? So I'm not a gossip queen. So that's neither here nor there. I love a straight guy, like, being like, I'm not a gossip queen as he gives you all the gossip. It's so fucking funny because straight guys are so like that, too.

7:44Ronnie Karam: They're the best gossips.

7:45Ben Mandelker: They are the biggest gossips. Straight men, that's where the gossip all lives. Always. They will gossip. They'll gossip like crazy because in their mind, they actually don't think they're gossiping because they actually think that women are the only ones who are capable of gossiping. So for a man to gossip, it's just like he's just relaying information.

8:04Ronnie Karam: Yeah, they do it literally. Their boobs have hair that doesn't count. That's weird. So anyway, he goes on to say that Brianna Chicken Fry told him that Amanda and West were dating at the Super Bowl, which was February 8th. I looked it up.

8:20Ben Mandelker: Brianna Chicken Fry is a real name? At first, I thought you just made that up.

8:25Ronnie Karam: she's an influencer she's friends with west and she um she became famous to me because apparently she found like a bow on the ground and then got in a fight with a bathroom with a mom whose kid owned the bow and she was like you sold that bow for my kid it's like i fuck you lady and she's like telling off the lady and think that she's doing something but she like looked like a crazy idiot so that's really all i know of her and that she's an influencer she has 1.1 million followers

8:53Ben Mandelker: on Instagram. Huge. Brianna Chicken Fry.

8:55Ronnie Karam: More than anybody on Summer House, I think, right? Well, probably, you know, current cast. Hard to say.

9:00Ben Mandelker: Hard to say, but, uh, she's huge. Brianna Chicken Fry. How can you not be huge

9:05Ronnie Karam: with a name like Chicken Fry? I mean, I'll follow you. I don't even eat chicken.

9:10Ben Mandelker: I'll follow. I'm down. I'm down for the chicken fry.

9:12Ronnie Karam: I'll follow Chicken Fry.

9:14Ben Mandelker: I'm proud of her.

9:15Ronnie Karam: I'm proud. Peanut butter on a bagel. That's going to be my new name. I'm going to get so many followers. We'll be, uh, Ben and Ronnie Side Sauce. Oh, my God. So, OK, so anyway, he said that he's that Brianna said she saw those two ordained. She knew that those two were dating all the way back at the Super Bowl, which was February 8th. And Dave went on to say, yeah, and, you know, like he was there at the Super Bowl with Sierra. So that's like a big, huge thing, because he was like. So apparently what I've heard is that Sierra was dating West. Like she decided to give him another chance and that they were kind of dating.

9:51Ronnie Karam: And he, but the whole time he was banging Amanda. So listen, I don't know. I don't know what's true and what's not. Cause now information's literally just flying out there, you know? Yeah.

10:03Ben Mandelker: This is, everything is, uh, everything is coming at full speed and it's very intense. And we'll give you all the headlines as we hear them and we will regurgitate them. And, uh, And we'll, of course, be waiting for Brianna Chicken Fry to weigh in because I'm sure she'll have something to say. But this is going to be an ever-evolving story, and it's going to get worse and worse. And, of course, Andy today on Twitter was like, well, tweet me your questions for the Summer House reunion, which I was cracking up at because he knows it's going to be a flood of hilarious questions and shady questions.

10:37Ben Mandelker: he's such a hilarious Bengali you know the scandal breaks and he's like send me your questions I'm like I don't know you can see he has this big smile on his face he is going to go to town on West I think it's great Andy Andy has different demeanors on different reunions and when it comes to like the youngin reunions like Vanderpump Rules and Southern Charm and Summer House even though they're not so young anymore to him they're still like the kids he does not give a fuck and he will I think he's going to really destroy West. I mean, he'll go after Amanda, but he's going to really go after West.

11:12Ronnie Karam: No, Amanda's going to do a lot of crying. Everyone will feel bad for Amanda. I was alone. She's crying. Yeah. I saw that Amanda lost a huge influencer deal yesterday. They came out and they were like, whatever. Same cute clothes, new influencer. And they dumped her. And it had just launched. I mean, Amanda, leave it up to Amanda to launch an influencer campaign and then 30 minutes later go on and release that statement. Like, what an idiot. And then Lindsay posted some douchebag from Love is Blind and she goes, is this his PR person? Because I guess he's like one of the most hated people in the country right now.

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13:05Ben Mandelker: well also i did think it was curious that they released their joint statement on the day that summer house airs normally if people like i don't know i'm just i just am surprised they didn't bury it like why did they i'm surprised they didn't like drop it on like easter sunday when people might be distracted like politics that's what they yeah you know

13:24Ronnie Karam: you know they're like put it on friday night and then by the month by the time monday comes around nobody will be taught but you know what i have to think these people are so stupid that they really thought this would help i mean maybe they thought like maybe west thought oh i'm caping you know i'm like saving this poor girl and then amanda's like well everyone will feel for me because you know i was going through it with kyle i don't know yeah because why else would you drop

13:47Ben Mandelker: an influencer campaign and then that i think that like um yeah because as we're about to get into because we are actually going to recap Summer House. You know, Amanda is, like the show with Amanda and Kyle is dark. And so maybe they're thinking, okay, people will be mad at me for a few hours and then they're going to watch Summer House and be like, oh, I see why she did what she did because she was in a desperate place and she was really sad, you know?

14:13Ronnie Karam: So maybe she waited for the most dramatic, the most Kyle being horrible episodes to finally release it because then she's like, oh, well, but then they'll see Kyle being so horrible to me. Yeah, that makes sense actually, politically.

14:26Ben Mandelker: But instead, all it did was make the whole thing feel cringy. And what I will say is that it did remind me of Scandaval in that we were watching something that was edited and presented to tell one narrative, but we know a different narrative in real life. And gosh, that's fun. It's cringy and it's fun.

14:46Ronnie Karam: Well, you know, I'm frankly sick of these people lying and I'm sick of it. I've had it. I've had it with their privacy. And they're like, we don't owe you this. Yes, you do owe us. You are on fucking TV. You owe us at least not lying. You know what I mean? And you guys lie all the time, especially you, Amanda. Amanda just went through this whole big thing with Kyle where she was leaving Kyle. And everybody's like, oh, my God, did Amanda leave Kyle? She's like, no. She's making like joke posts on Instagram like, oh, I just moved into the doghouse because she wasn't ready to come forward about it.

15:16Ronnie Karam: No, you are on a reality show. you're making us sit here through this shit for year after year after year you owe me this you will tell me so i think people are getting sick of them lying all the time and hiding things and um we're we're tired we will follow you now people are following them through the streets

15:35Ben Mandelker: we're done we're done um i have to say something that's something that's really distracting to me is that the new iOS has this thing where it puts like a little slideshow on your desktop and it just like changes the photos throughout the day. You know?

15:52Ronnie Karam: I want that. No. It just does it.

15:55Ben Mandelker: No, like on my laptop. On my computer screen. That's your Mac OS, not your Mac OS. On my Mac OS. Did I say iOS? I'm sorry. More like iOS. But there's like -

16:07Ronnie Karam: Oh my God, it's 111. Good luck.

16:09Ben Mandelker: Good luck.

16:11Ronnie Karam: I wish for$5 million. Okay, go ahead.

16:13Ben Mandelker: It's actually 1111 over here. So it's almost like one more one than you.

16:16Ronnie Karam: That's quite triple lock.

16:18Ben Mandelker: Oh my God. Like I literally have given so much to have that extra one. And like, it's fine. I walked so that one could fly. The whole point of the stupid thing I'm talking about is that on the desktop, there's this like little slideshow that happens in the background. I think it's just to be like, hey, remember this? and there is a shot from one of the crappies where ariana was on and she is looking over at you in the photo but the window that we're recording on is covering up you and it looks like she's just listening to you talk right now about summer house and it's just smiling and it is the funniest thing and i'm gonna show i'm gonna show what this looks like because i keep on laughing at this like this is this is what it looks like on my screen right now it's just ariana staring staring at us as we talk like you guys you guys don't even know what you're what what this is like these scandals with my 30 000 water bottles in front of her yeah they probably start thinking

17:24Ronnie Karam: about how that looks um yeah so this is pretty crazy this amanda west stuff um just for those of you who didn't listen to the blow deck don't want to go back to listen to that i think the basic feeling is fuck these people you know how dare you i knew west was trash obviously i've been saying it for years uh that guy's trash i don't believe a thing that comes out of his mouth as far as all of this like i want sierra he's doing it for tv he's fucking amanda to get on the city and no one can tell me otherwise um and uh we discussed a little how west is not getting it as bad as amanda and i was saying i think it's because this ultimately is about a girl friendship betrayal i think no one cares about kyle kyle deserves whatever amanda can fuck whoever she wants as far as i'm concerned with kyle like i'm not worried about kyle's feelings for this this is you you just betrayed a friend who's stands up for you even in this episode she's she's the one who told you you should leave your damn husband she wouldn't have told you that if she had known that you were going to go fuck her ex without telling her about it.

18:24Ronnie Karam: So I think ultimately this is about just a bad, rotten betrayal. And I think it sucks. And I think it sucks too. Yeah.

18:33Ben Mandelker: And I don't think anyone feels too bad for Kyle. Cause I don't know if Kyle, I don't know how much Kyle cares. You know, he was on Watch What Happens Live last week and Andy asked him, like, if it's true, what would you say? He's like, ah, that'd be crazy. But like, if Manda did that, then I mean, if it made her happy, I guess I'd be okay with it now easier said than done I don't know if he still feels that way but part of me feels like Kyle would be more than happy just to have Amanda out like just be like fine give her someone else move on to someone else and I can move on and I can now I can start

19:06Ronnie Karam: banging chicks and people won't get mad at me yeah Kyle is happy like Kyle should be sending them thank you cards because the whole internet's been like fuck you Kyle for the last you know few weeks especially the last two weeks so uh yeah kyle's like i was like thanks amanda

19:22Ben Mandelker: yes yeah and including in about 30 seconds when we actually start to recap the show we will now resume our previously scheduled kyle bashing but he's pretty unflappable i think that kyle just goes forward i mean we've said so much shit about him and then when we see him in person he's like hey guys you know like okay cool you know so i think he's just gonna be like wow that sucks unfappable yeah he's unfappable i think he's gonna be like bro that was like not that was like not cool but i'm not gonna get mad at you i'm just gonna drink a little bit more okay man yeah but

19:54Ronnie Karam: it's this whole episode he's like kyle why is everybody so mad at me nobody nobody thinks about how shitty amanda is and it's like well you're a gift you know if anybody's good at manifestation right now it's kyle kyle is with the manifestation game yeah he's a manifested this

20:08Ben Mandelker: manda fest okay let's get into it summer house season 10 episode 9 wrinkles and rosé and we're still in the middle of this um golden girls kind of party uh where everyone's dressed like mrs doubtfire to certain degrees and jesse is like hey grandpa's gotta give everybody their medicine he's like pouring people booze into their mouths and lindsey's on a scooter and she's going around and they're just all doing, they're all being wacky and just sort of, we're hearing just like fragments of funny things that they're saying. You know, Mia's like, can I take a little shot of something? Well, what about my insulin?

20:46Ben Mandelker: So it's like fun times.

20:47Ronnie Karam: It's like wacky old people, you know, jokes. And so KJ jumps in the pool and Dara's like, oh my God, I can't. No, literally look at me. Like he looks insane. Like, look at him. Like, look at his stupid face. That was just me like bullying out of love. Love it. Bully Dara. drown kj drown just kidding i'm just kidding love you honey i'm bullying i'm i'm gonna cook

21:10Ben Mandelker: you something later um so carl and kyle sit down uh and again i i i just am really amused that like kyle had to apply all this stuff to make himself look like an old man like he has hair coming out of his ears he has a gut they put gray all over the place big bushy eyebrows like a mustache they They had to do everything to make him look older. And Carl just had to put like some baby powder in his hair. It's like, wow.

21:37Ronnie Karam: We're some sunglasses. People were like, yep, that's it. Roll it. Roll it.

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21:44Ronnie Karam: I'm also happy for Carl in all of this because, you know, Carl's had an extremely boring half a decade on the show and God bless his heart. And he finally has a meme that's gone viral this year, which is him in the office. I think when Kyle is talking about his money problems and Carl's just like giving this face, like his face is scrunched up, like he's confused and confused. Carl has taken over. I see it on every summer house thread. They start with that. It's become the new NeNe. You know how NeNe painting the doll GIF is around forever. So that's the Carl version. And Carl got to post that this week.

22:20Ronnie Karam: That was his response to all of this was the confused, confused old man, Carl. So I was proud of him. I was like, you know what? He's, he's bored the hell out of us, but God, he at least got a meme out of it. Good for you, Carl.

22:32Ben Mandelker: He's been on a journey, this Carl Radke guy. So Carl's like, whoa, so if you went all the way back, that would be amazing. Your legs aren't even touching. Look at you, look at that. Whoa, whoa. I was like, yeah, you like my legs a little bit? Like, yeah, okay, well, so can we like have serious, like bro to bro, man to man talk? He's like, yeah, man, I feel like my heart's going to like pop off my body because you know what I mean? I feel like the last eight months, you know, i've been like a little preoccupied trying to keep it together you know what i'm saying

23:00Ronnie Karam: he's like he's so funny because he's like yeah yeah have a good time party party let's talk serious okay my head's popping i feel like i'm gonna die man like he goes immediately into staring at the wall mode you know he's like i can't even move man well you know like last night like i think i've been in my own little world dude oh soft bar tm yeah i wanted to clear the are y 'all you know it's like hard to concentrate all i hear is that's an espresso machine so anyway um you know like the investment i just wanted to warn you the investment thing has come up among folks you know new carl says things like folks so um i was just a little sad about it to be honest because like i remember back when you were getting lover boy going and like obviously i believed in it i want to support you and i know it wasn't a ton of money back then but you know with inflation like that would have been like 30 000 now so

23:57Ben Mandelker: yeah yeah but you like you've given me like so many opportunities professionally i'm just like so supportive so like having you involved in some ways it's like it's like a it's important to me you know and like i'd love to have you come by a soft bar and i'd make you one of our specialties which is a virgin vodka water so just let me know if you want to come by look i was like

24:20Ronnie Karam: at the very least, I'd like to see you walking around in a$10 ,000 investment soft bar hat. That would be great. Do you remember when his investor gifts were listed on the internet? It's like$10 ,000, you get a cap. $20 ,000, you get a cap and a pencil that says soft bar.

24:38Ben Mandelker: Steve Sanders would do it. I mean, he bought that bowl for$5 ,000 on MeritMed. So Kyle is like -

24:44Ronnie Karam: But they need to try to not pay for a latte. He'd be like, how dare you try to charge me for a latte?

24:48Ben Mandelker: whacking it's not how it works you get a free for you get a free latte you get a free latte it's

24:53Ronnie Karam: not how it works i'm obsessed with i am targeted i am specifically targeted i could just watch

25:01Ben Mandelker: someone please make a meme of steve wagging his figure this is my favorite thing so i was like well look i don't blame you i don't blame you you bet on me i want to bet on you but my wall it's way too deep in lover boy way too deep because like whoa is the this is actually in trouble folding are you saying that your non-brook and mortar is gonna fold before my brick and mortar

25:21Ronnie Karam: lindsey did you hear that yeah last month alone before our loan payment we lost 175 grand and our loan payment is 50 grand every month whoa whoa so if you don't find another partner in the next few months oh is that it is that it for love or what thank you um hallmark christmas movie

25:42Ben Mandelker: premise line coming in. Like, this is how every Hallmark movie starts. If we don't find a partner in the next few months, we're going to lose the business. What are we going to do? I don't know. But I'm going to go home to my childhood home to tend to the hotel that's been in our family for generations and see if we can fix it.

25:59Ronnie Karam: I'm going to put on a DJ show at my daddy's hotel. That'll bring him in. Against all loans. Yeah. And that is kind of what he's been doing. He's like, business is feeling let's put on a show you know it's got the dj thing going on uh yeah but it's like white boy christmas a very white christmas the whitest christmas starring kyle cook i'm dreaming of a

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27:52Ronnie Karam: Yeah, level boy goes bankrupt. He's like, oh my God, six months, 12 months, 18 months, 24 months, 30 months. I'm just going to go in. Carl, stop counting. Sixes.

28:04Ben Mandelker: Too much. Carl, we get it. You understand your sixes. I have to do a lot of math. You know, when you're running a marathon, you count everything by six. Six minutes. 12 minutes. 14 minutes. That was soft math. That was soft math.

28:16Ronnie Karam: That was without a calculator. It was soft math. Yeah, well, I'm going to try and have fun. It's like I have three months to live. I'm an old man. That's how I feel. That's how I feel, Carl. Whoa, I don't think I realize. I mean, I know, obviously, it's been a roller coaster. but oh is it as bad as brick and mortar bro it's like the most stressful thing you can imagine

28:39Ben Mandelker: i don't think amanda even understands or appreciates the current state of affairs god yeah but like in worst case scenario if lover boy weren't to make it like you still have each other right he's like uh i don't know hey cool so not good talk not gonna get that ten thousand dollars you know carl's probably thinking look your business is gonna fold anyway so just give me ten thousand dollars you're putting ten thousand dollars into this sinking ship isn't gonna help anything but it's gonna help me a lot so can i get ten thousand dollars please and in fact you should just say that like look bro the lover boy dream is dead okay lover boy is dead

29:19Ronnie Karam: believe in soft bar um i still don't think that he owes carl any of that i think he he gave carl so much money to work at that job when Carl was clearly not doing his job and earning it that I think Kyle's actually being somewhat nice here by not pointing any of that out

29:37Ben Mandelker: I actually agree I think this is what we said last week which is that like if Kyle were a mensch he would do it he's not obligated to do it and if he did it it would be a very lovely thing to do but he has helped Carl so much and I don't know although has he because you know when And Kyle's like, I'm on your board of advisors for your brand. By the way, mine's about to tank and go belly up.

30:03Ronnie Karam: So yeah, not all help is good help. It's like I helped you put out the fire at your house. Dude, you were throwing gasoline on it. Well, still, it was wet. I thought it was helping. So I tried. So KJ is now talking to Dara. And some guy is talking to Sierra. And he's like, oh, my God, your boobs are so exposed. because she's wearing the big old lady bouncy booby rack. And he's like, can I touch him? And so meanwhile, Jesse and Lindsay go to talk. And she's like, I'm looking for a sugar daddy. Like, that's amazingly what I'm here for. Like, it just had a baby. Now I'm looking for a sugar daddy.

30:45Ben Mandelker: And he's like, all right, I told you I'd find you an old timer. And we have a flashback to them talking about that. And Jesse's like, hey, by the way, that guy over there, He looks like he could have a bit of money. He's awkward strange. No one's talking to him Which means he's probably someone who's really nerdy and made a lot of money with a startup. Let's go talk to him

31:03Ronnie Karam: They just pick the nerdiest guy they can like let's go for it. She's like Nice shoes good watch. He looks like I'd break him in half. Let's do this So they go up to him and um, we see some flashbacks of her terrible relationships And she's like may as well get some money out of it. So she goes up to him and he's like, hey, hey brother. I'm Jeffy. Wanna talk to a hot lady? Okay, Brandon, good to meet you. This is Lindsey. She's like, I'm Dorian. Nice to meet you.

31:37Ben Mandelker: Are you rich? Because I just got myself an enormous apartment that I probably can't afford and I need some actually funded, please.

31:45Ronnie Karam: He's like, do I look rich? rich yeah you look rich uh well great that's the goal do you go to vegas i want a guy who goes to

31:53Ben Mandelker: vegas it's like no i don't do you she's like i love this lot sonny she's like are we role-playing

31:59Ronnie Karam: are you asking me seriously it's like are we role-playing am i supposed to be getting a boner right now and uh she's like well you dress nice and you have nice shoes and a nice wand uh thank you yeah why did you he's like oh i'm good friends with uh carl oh well you should have led with that we know Jesus.

32:20Ben Mandelker: She's like, never mind. So Amanda's walking with her friend Katie.

32:23Ronnie Karam: I felt bad for the guy because at some point, Lindsay, it cuts to Lindsay and she's like, well, I don't need a hot guy. It's like, geez, this poor guy catching strays. He's just trying to come to a party.

32:37Ben Mandelker: Yeah, she just has made that pivot where she's like, yeah, I got the baby. I took care of that part. I just need someone to fund the lifestyle. um kj is talking to west and era and cages like west man i can't believe you did the splits bro the vibes were off with that one bro the splits man wow and daris like yeah i'm worried one day you're just gonna do the splits and you're just gonna stay down and west is like oh well i do think that like after four weddings last summer and i do them drunk and i was just like ripping it and i just think i have a stress fracture in my right femur like i'm cute and adorable was today fun so far she's like yeah it's been fun except for kj jumping in the pool and almost drowning what she did you just got bullied i love you yeah everyone's been great the only

33:22Ronnie Karam: negative feedback i have at this point involves people who are not currently here so we'll address that when they're here her name rhymes with flaley okay so she's uh she's pissed off about bailey because bailey said um you know that she was in bed's bedroom like she went in in her costume and she came out in a different outfit. God, I wish I could flirt.

33:46Ben Mandelker: So then Lindsay's like, well, I go to Bailey. Dara went into Ben's room for like an hour. And Dara's now like, priority number two, in the city, coming soon to Bravo, I'm going to sit down and have a conversation with Bailey so that she understands that you can't just make up random facts that are not actually true at all. Which would not make it a fact, but that's fine. But besides, Besides that, you know, if I could always be in an older woman outfit just twerking my ass off, I think that's how I would choose to go out. Old people just got bullied by Dara, the bully meister.

34:22Ronnie Karam: So then Carl is in his room texting and he's like, oh, hey, oh, God, how do I say this? Hold on. You can do this, Carl. You can do this. Okay. I wish you were here this weekend. I did it. I did it. It was hard, but I'm getting back out there. Yeah.

34:40Ben Mandelker: I feel like a little just kind of weird. Maybe it's because I'm walking around in my underwear in this party, but the conversation with Kyle, I don't feel like anything really got accomplished. He was just like bitching. Like, what was me? And it's just like a thing that Kyle does. Unlike me, who just sort of bitches to some people quietly and then mopes around and then waits for someone to ask if something was wrong, you know? And if it's how he controls the conversation. So, gotta vent to Bailey.

35:06Ronnie Karam: So Bailey texts him back And she's like me too Don't have too much fun without me Smiling face P.S. The smiling face was flirting Did you get it? Was that good? Was I flirting? You know me

35:18Ben Mandelker: Carl Having too much fun without someone Radke I kind of wish Bailey was here I'm a mom Maybe she would distract me from this I just need a friend Someone who's cute Something I wish Bailey was here Dressed like my mom them. Is that weird? And I could be like, hey, mom, meet my other mom, Sharon. Meet Sharon. So speaking of which, now, by the way, this is a great sign for Bailey because normally when someone does not get to come out to the summer house because they are, quote unquote, taking care of stuff in the city this weekend, we don't see them at all. They're just like, they just don't exist.

35:58Ben Mandelker: But Bailey gets the rare scene in the city while everyone is at the summer house thing over the weekend and i was very proud of her for this they're committed

36:07Ronnie Karam: they're committed to bailey so she calls her mom and um her mom's in the country and bailey's like what country she goes our country oh are you pretending to be like outdoorsy for this man or something she's like yes something like that i am i'm pretending to be outdoorsy okay it's great

36:25Ben Mandelker: how are you honey well it's very it's very like you know when aiden takes carry out to the country I'm about to film some It Girl interviews, you know? She's like, well, you seem so busy. How's the share house? Well, it's really good and I'm just trying to date again, which is weird, and I'm trying to flirt, you know? So, like, the other day, I went up and found a volleyball and I liked it and I said, was that hot for anyone? And no one responded.

36:49Ronnie Karam: Oh, honey, you're still going with that flirting story? Like, yes, mom, I'm trying to flirt, okay? I called you from the bench in New York City to tell you I'm trying to flirt, okay? So then we see a flashback to Carl being like, are we flirting now? She's like, are we? I think we're flirting. I think so. I think we're doing pretty good.

37:06Ben Mandelker: Oh, good God. Good God Claus for flirting. Oh. So then Sarah's like, is anybody cute? Anyone you like? She was like, yeah, there's Carl. He's sweet. He's 6 '5", huge guy, like a teddy bear. Also just as furry. Just like the sweetest nicest man in the world. But I'm also like, I haven't had a boyfriend since I was in the worst relationship I've ever been in. And I'm just a lot more fearful than I thought I was going to be. Well, I got some really good advice not too long ago from someone that I really admire. You. Me? Yeah. And that is, if you're the same person in that relationship, then you'll have the same relationship.

37:40Ben Mandelker: So it may not be like that. You don't have game. But maybe it's just that you're not so enamored with the red flags anymore.

37:49Ronnie Karam: Okay. Well, thanks. I needed this talk. That was great advice. Okay. Wow. I hope you have a great time. You look great today. Wait. Was that flirting, honey? It was flirting. It was flirting. Finally. Finally. So then we go back to the birthday, and Ben checks in with Kyle, and the guys are all hugging. He's like, happy birthday, mate. You all right? Fucking 43. 40 fucking three. All right? He's like, yeah, it's been a rough couple of weeks. I don't want to talk about it. I don't want to talk about it.

38:18Ben Mandelker: He's like, well, has someone got an erection right now? And I guess maybe that was a callback to when when he got a boner during their game that they played. Now Jesse's friend Maggie arrives and, hey, Maggie, how you doing? How's it going, Maggie? She's like, hi, I'm Maggie. And then they go inside and he's giving her a tour. And he's like, yeah, this is a hallway and this is a bedroom and here's my bathroom and we can make out. He's like, you know, I was trying to date different types, a different type of girl. I date these very sweet, bubbly, corporate girlies, but Maggie's so nice and we have good conversations.

38:54Ben Mandelker: So I'm trying not to judge too quickly. I'm like, yes, I'm so glad you changed up the type of girl you normally go after, which is a tiny little blonde girl. It's good to see some variety.

39:05Ronnie Karam: Tiny little blonde girl in her early 20s. You're really stretching there, Jesse. Yeah, I'm really going for something different. Just Lexi, but without the mom and sister. So then Carl sees them and he's like, oh, you guys are like, shoot, that's all I've got to say. And Lindsay outside is like, excuse me, I'm looking for a sugar daddy. Someone's like, this guy's got old money. She's like, do you have a yacht? And he goes, no. His friend's like, he's got a real boat. He's like, I have a kayak.

39:38Ben Mandelker: She goes, oh, I don't know if that's going to get it. And then we get to traditional Kyle and Ben. Well, Kyle peeing on the side of the party and this time Ben isn't next to him. And Kyle's like, I mean, I've seen some dicks, but you call that a dick? He's like, oh, I'm looking on it. Like, why? You've got like that entire lawn. why are you guys being directly adjacent to each other?

39:58Ronnie Karam: It's like guys. That's what you do when you're a guy. You go and you pee right next to each other and you look at each other's wiener. Whether you're gay or not, you're just, it's important. It explains a lot about a man's personality, or his psychology, you know? The wiener affects a man's brain. You know a man's wiener, you know his personality.

40:17Ben Mandelker: So then Sierra and Mia are sitting outside and talking about it, and Sierra's like, God, Amanda's the best old person. and Mia's like, oh my God, hub. So they're like watching her like shuffle around and whatever. And Mia's like, Mia's like saying, you know, Amanda was upset earlier. She was feeling like everyone was talking about her. So then Lindsay sits down. She's like, oh, hello, gossip session. How are your titties feeling, Sierra? She's like, yeah, they're heavy. She's like, so what are we gossiping about? She's like, well, we're talking about Kyle and Amanda and Ben was saying to me that he's on the line for a lot right now.

40:49Ben Mandelker: Like the lover boy of it all. She's like, what's going on with Loverboy? So we see that Kyle is on the line for millions of dollars.

41:02Ronnie Karam: Yes. And so Sierra tells her that. She's like, it's like$3 million. And I don't care how much you're on the line for. You still don't need to talk to your wife that way. And that's unacceptable, period. Well, do you think that the state of Loverboy finances will affect Amanda? And she's like, yeah, they don't have a prenup. She's like, oh, right, right. You just see on Lindsay's face, because Lindsay was like, get a prenup. Get a prenup, stupid. So Sierra's like, well, if he's on the line, then he should be on the line. And she's like, oh, my God, this is worse than I ever thought.

41:38Ben Mandelker: I'm totally going to go mess around with him. So then Lindsay's going back to her sugar daddy thing, which is getting pretty old pretty quickly. and then Ben goes up to a table he's like, does anyone want some of these originals? I got them by the heaps. Thank you. That was a model making a joke. It's so nice to always get that applause. Thank you.

42:04Ronnie Karam: So now they're meeting a girl named Hannah and Wes is like, this is Ben. He's Australian. He talks funny. He's like, hello. She's like, bring it in, sexy. It's like, I'm meeting amazing people but I'm definitely distracted. I keep thinking about the last person I dated that I never really broke up with just to be on this show and pretending to be single even though I've been dating this girl the whole time. So we see clips of this girl and he's sticking with his story that she just loved him too fast and he couldn't take it. So he backed away. He's copying the exact same story from... As Andrea.

42:40Ronnie Karam: Andrea. The exact same thing. We're not buying this again, sir.

42:45Ben Mandelker: Foreign model loves someone from afar. The other thing is that as an example of their love, we see this picture of them. He's shirtless. They're in bed and they're making out. And I'm like, who took that photo? I was like, so you guys were making it. I was like, wait a second. We have to take a photo of this. So he clearly stuck his hand up and took a picture of them making out in bed. This is, no one. I just I can't stand that I can't stand it because the picture is supposed to imply like oh you just caught us oh my god I'm so sorry that was my phone I thought it was on my brain it's the terrorism unit it was yeah I do have a CT you've got one hour the terrorists are coming it really it literally is the the ringtone from 24 it's chloe calling is that a perimeter jack um i am against that a perimeter the point is that i just think it's so it's so affected when people do that you know oh my god it's like the

43:50Ronnie Karam: performative like look we're so in love i'm taking a picture of us also i could tell that he took it because she looks terrible in it and he of course looks hot you know she's like hers is the one that's like neck is twisted all weird and like she looks horrible and she's a gorgeous lady so anyway i don't believe a thing ben says and i'm not into his whole standing up for kyle and giving kyle excuses so ben's kind of dead to me already yeah he has actually like rubbed me the

44:15Ben Mandelker: wrong way i think that um you know i think that the veil has dropped you know his like oh my god i'm just a nice girl i don't know what to do it's like okay you had a girlfriend all this time turns out you're actually kind of a dick and we see that next week he once again berates someone actually this time amanda about about a joke and um yeah i think that he just is uh he has a mean

44:37Ronnie Karam: charismatic person he does have really he has mean eyes i think so um yeah there's something cold in his eyes i don't like it so then um hannah tells him oh my god you've got lipstick on your teeth is that just like an australian thing he's like oh i know so then uh maggie and jesse are talking maggie's the new lexi and it's like um did you want to know something crazy there's like a bug in my drink and i'm still drinking it that's crazy so then he's like by the way there's a restroom in here unless you want to see my room so uh it's good that you don't mind bugs when you're dating the summer house guest you're gonna need that attitude maggie keep it up so they go make out in the bathroom or something and then they're saying things like

45:26Ben Mandelker: kissies

45:28Ronnie Karam: so then we go to Sierra and she sees Jesse and Maggie walk by and Jesse's like this is it, this is my bed that's what's bed, you look at the party while you pee, let's go kissy, kissy, kissy, kissy and she's like oh god so they come out of the bathroom and she's like oh my god grandma you're looking better and better

45:51Ben Mandelker: yeah he says more party stuff and then eventually um west pulls kyle for a conversation near the dj booth and west is like um do you remember last night at all in any capacity and west who made a whole thing last week about like i hate confrontation when it comes to doing like what's right with like a friend i like will totally do it and now he's sitting here and he's like can't even look kyle in the eye he's just like looking at a spot on the floor

46:14Ronnie Karam: and so and kyle does his immediate depression thing where he's like yeah yeah sure i'll tell What's up, bro? Yeah, I'm really depressed. I'm just trying to compartmentalize. If I can be honest, I don't know what triggered me because there was so much that's built up. And then he hangs his head. He's like, I'm just sad. If Kyle is compartmentalized,

46:35Ben Mandelker: one of those compartments has some old tuna in it because that lid comes off and it's like, oh, God, here we go again. So Wes is like, well, I know there's lots of layers and depths to your relationship, but this was the only time where I thought like objectively like you were being unnecessary because like nothing happened and like that was just like black and white like not the right thing and but like you like that cannot be like the correct way for you to get shit off your chest and like that was bad like please don't be mad at me don't be mad at me please oh my god oh my god scary so then in another part of the party

47:07Ronnie Karam: sierra and mia are talking to amanda and she's like is anyone seeing kyle and they're like i I don't know. And Sierra says, has he apologized to you or not? She goes, well, I don't even know if he remembers what he did, but no.

47:24Ben Mandelker: Back in the DJ booth. Well, I'm sorry that you guys had to be subjected to that. And if I can be honest, I'm basically falling apart. It's like, no. Well, tell her that, though. For starters, say, I'm sorry. I didn't mean that. I should not have talked to you like that. I said, 100%, I feel bad. Good. I get a little fucking selfish when she has fun with everybody else. Other than me. and I'm not like, I'm a DJ.

47:48Ronnie Karam: There's the excuse. Couldn't just be like, yep, I'll apologize. It's no, because she has fun with everybody but me. And Wes is like, no, no, I hear you. Look, I know you're frustrated, but like, we've got your back. Like, we're your friends, you know, bro? And he's like, hey, you guys have no fucking idea. You guys have no idea. Hold on, I'm getting my head, literally.

48:13Ben Mandelker: so Lindsay's like does Amanda know about the other stuff that you found out today and Sierra's like oh I mean I was like oh my god you're making me nervous and so Mia's like well you need to say it it's like well I was having a conversation earlier and I guess he told Wes that lover buyer only had like three three months of payroll left and then he told Ben that he's personally responsible for 2.1 million dollars and Lindsay's like because I know you guys never signed a prenup like i recommended right right no and so i don't know how that affects you you're

48:41Ronnie Karam: fucked and she's like when kyle took out the small business loan like it was a conversation he had with me like after and like he's an entrepreneur so like i don't question his business like why would i i don't know anything i'm just a graphic designer i'm an artist okay don't act like you have not been told this a million times. We saw on camera, your own family was like, do not marry this man without a prenup. What are you not?

49:10Ben Mandelker: It was Bose giving her a lecture.

49:12Ronnie Karam: Don't marry him! You're not being authentic. Nobody understands what your business is. What is this lover boy logo that you stole off the internet? Come on!

49:23Ben Mandelker: How could you say that, Bose? I said nothing. What are you talking about? So Amanda is like, I just don't know the answers. I feel like I'm just kind of, you know, going into the motions. He's like, yeah, just in limbo. So she says they have separate bank accounts. They just sort of never really merged together. And like what's happening right now just isn't good. And Sierra's like, you know, but at the same time, it's not related to how he's treating Amanda and like the fuck yous and the lashing out. That's unacceptable and it's inexcusable. And they basically like rally around her. Like, you know what?

49:53Ben Mandelker: Like you shouldn't do this. Like stop letting him say it, do that shit to you. You don't deserve it. You don't deserve someone being like called fuck you, saying fuck you to her. And it's just like watching this is painful because you just see the way, you know, Sierra and Mia too. But primarily Sierra is being such a good girlfriend to Amanda. And just knowing where this is all going to actually lead to is so disappointing.

50:15Ronnie Karam: Yeah. And then we go back to the guys and Wes is like, just talk to us and we'll talk to you. I mean, don't take it out on Amanda. Like, just say sorry for that, please. Okay. Say you're sorry. and you know he's like this is not kill the party okay he goes just say you're sorry and go to bed and like don't try and justify stuff to her man okay i like you know like offer offer her my penis just say amanda i'm sorry west has a penis too if you'd like to i don't know do something with that i know i like when when they're like look man just like just say sorry for it he goes

50:51Ben Mandelker: I'm sorry. Like, no, not to us.

50:53Ronnie Karam: Yeah. He's like, I passed. I did it. I did it. Why isn't Amanda being nice to me? I said, sorry. Also, I'd like to point out that the whole storyline this season was West is upset with Jesse flirting with Sierra because that breaks boy code. This guy's such a fucking loser. I can't even take him with his little baby. It's like, look at me. I'm just standing up for women. No, you're not. You're standing up for a woman on TV. So you get more a free pussy in a bar and i don't even want to hear anything else from you i don't believe it i won't believe anything else right and the way he handled that whole job is a gross way to put it

51:25Ben Mandelker: but it's a gross situation yeah and the way he handled that whole jesse situation was so like so passive and weaseled not weaselly it was just sort of like it was what's the right word for it He didn't really stand in it. He just was like, well, people are saying it's not nice that you said that. And then he tells Lindsay, he said this. You want me to do this for you?

51:52Ronnie Karam: Yeah. He went and manipulated everybody else to do it for him so that he didn't have to do it. And he could just look like a poor little victim on the side.

51:59Ben Mandelker: Yeah. It was just like, if you're going to have an issue, just stand in it.

52:04Ronnie Karam: But just make me mad that the guys on this show, they sign up for this show and they get an instant ass pass. You know, it's like they get this little card and they get holes punched wherever they go. It makes me crazy. I know.

52:17Ben Mandelker: They literally get holes punched.

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