#3293 Southern Hospitality S4E05: Lake Me To The River

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2:26I hear something

2:28Ronnie Karam: Roboty Is it a robot Sound on my Is it robots It's robotic What do you think it is I know my wifi was on by accident Because I had to airdrop something So maybe it was Not a strong connection Is it still Roboty I think it's gone Nice job Thanks Sorry Okay from the top Well hello It was such a positive one, too. Sorry. I can do it. I can do it again. Well, hello, and welcome to Watch What Crappens, a podcast about all that crap on Bravo that we just love to talk about. I'm Ben Mandelker, and joining me today from a tube in some brackish brown water in the middle of the South, it's Mr. Ronnie Karam.

3:15Hi, Ronnie. How are you? Hello, Ben. How are you? Fabulous. today we're talking southern hospitality but before we do that of course you best go over to our patreon patreon.com slash watch for crappins where you get access to an ad free feed of this podcast you get access to a weekly bonus our bonus this week was a recap of last week's episode of survivor you also get access to crappins on demand where you can watch us not just listen to us a week before it goes on to youtube and you also just can be part of a great community of Patreon gals, girls, and boys, and non-binaries, and everyone else.

3:59So come join us over there. Today, Southern Hospitality. Gosh, it's been, I feel like it's only been like a heartbeat since these kids got back from their last regional trip, and now they're going off on another little weekend Airbnb experience.

4:17Ronnie Karam: Yeah. They're always going to a river or a cloudy gray beach. Yeah. And it's another episode of Michaels being a little shit. Yeah. Not Team Michaels. I'm not loving it. Listen, you had your first thing with Molly. Okay. It's like, okay, maybe you stressed, whatever. You cried. Okay, I'm over it. But Lake, you're going to come for Lake? I love Lake. Who doesn't love Lake? I mean, she's 22. Leave her alone. It was a baby. I just felt so bad for Lake because she is hurting so badly. Like her best friend is icing her out. She's hurting. She's sad. And like, also no one's checking in on her. Like, hey, what's wrong Lake?

5:00Like she's the poor girl. She's like alone. She's trying to serve a look and just like no one cares. She doesn't have the gaze to support her look. She's sitting on Adalondack chairs alone. I just felt like my heart really broke for her. You know, like that sucks.

5:15Ronnie Karam: Yeah. I felt like that too. So we start with Maddie narrating what's been going on. And then Joe comes to a place called Music Farm. He's like, hi, Charles. Welcome myself to Music Farm. This is really cool. He's like, yeah, I'm excited to talk about your party, bro. He goes, yeah. So I met these guys in New York, Emo and I. And they threw a badass show. So I thought for my 30th birthday, I'm doing something big. Emo. Yeah. Emo. Emo's so big. They did it on Vanderpump Rules. once and like emo music it's a movement it's a culture it's very angsty just like me it's very i don't want to grow up so for me turning 30 this was like perfect you know like if you really listen to it like every emo guy song is really singing about love and not giving them a business yeah you know so much of emo is about like wanting to sleep on the right side of the bed where you have access to a charger that's emo man

6:15Ronnie Karam: there's so much emo like my chemical romance like that could be a place that i open for lava you know like fallout boy i fell out because i won't give me a restaurant you know it's like crazy dashboard confessional it's basically that's one thing trevor won't know about because he's on a pedicab hey so i'm thinking like 100 guest lists and then like 100 like compliments and it could be like a party but like huge it's like basically gonna be a concert like it'd be a big event like it's gonna be the biggest coolest party for a music genre that like no one cares about anymore yeah yeah i'm so pumped it's gonna be amazing email party so now we go to mia's and she's she's on the phone with her dad filipo and they're talking you know catching up and stuff because what would this show be if everyone didn't call their parents this is southern charm i don't know if they have like meetings where they're like this is the south and every cast member is calling their parent at least five times this season.

7:10Ronnie Karam: All right? Just line them up. It's what we do here. Do we have any anarchist parents on this cast who possibly have six estates in France? So her dad's been giving out some scholarship money to some kids. They had an event. She's like, can I have some? He's like, no. She's like, well, you're not going to believe the day I had yesterday, okay? So you know that Troy and I broke up, right? Despite the fact that the sex was amazing. Okay, honey, keep on going. So Troy calls me on Saturday and goes, hey Mia, just packed up all your stuff and sent it in a U-Haul. Was it U-Haul or UPS? I thought it was UPS.

7:47Ronnie Karam: I sent it UPS. Sent it in UPS. And Poppy, it's like my belongings. It's like my Miss World trophy. It's my YSL bag, my shoes, my jewelry. Stuff that friends have given me and basically somebody stole it in the 20 minutes it was sitting outside. I'd like to know more about this. I start myself like three months for that trophy, and now some crackhead is just like, it's on his moped. It's basically on his moped now. I'm like, just go to Etsy. It's there. So they broke up, and he packed his stuff, UPS, and sent it to her. It sounds nice so far, but he did not insure it. So was it sitting for 20 minutes outside her door?

8:27Is that what it was?

8:28Ronnie Karam: I think so, yeah. Oh. So in my head, the way I heard it was that he put it in a U-Haul, and then the u-haul got stolen but ups makes more sense oh man so it just oh wow yeah i feel like something like that it's not just you get it insured you have to make sure you sign for delivery you gotta have a ring cam everything today in this day and age i just can't believe it yeah um i'm surprised it doesn't happen more than it does but i really the only reason i use the You know how Ring has the social element where it's like, here's what's going on in your neighborhood. And it's always like, I lost my cat.

9:08Ronnie Karam: It's basically that for 20 pages. But I like the ones that are like, someone stole this off my porch. And then you see a Ring camera of someone just going and stealing Amazon boxes off of porches. And they're so dumb, too. They go and they look right at the camera. They're like, oh, was that a Ring camera? Was there a camera in there? Why is that doorbell lighting up? Well, I'm taking this box. I'll tell you, Brittany. I got my sparkle. Oh, they got some sparkle delivered. I do love the whole genre of the robber pranks where people put like an exploding glitter bomb in their boxes. When people steal their Amazon packages, they get glitter all over themselves.

9:51That's a nice one. Yeah, it's kind of like

9:55Ronnie Karam: acid, that's what I'd put. There's so little justice in this world that if Like if a robber gets glitter bombed, I'm okay with it. No, no. Hell no. I'm going to put battery acid in that shit. You're going to steal my bag? You're going to look like Freddy Krueger, dick. Enjoy your$10 pants that I got off Amazon. Idiot. Put Captain Jason's sandalwood cologne in there. Oh, no. Never should have opened this up. So the dad's like, well, okay, that wasn't smart not to insure it, but things are just things, honey. Okay. Now, of course, except the YSL. I mean, that was expensive, but, you know. what are you going to do?

10:32Ronnie Karam: So she says that, you know, she's upset with Troy because he never took her long plan term seriously and her long-term plan. Sorry. You know, I'm verbally dyslexic. I'm a little dyslexic in writing, but it really comes out verbally. Like the other day I said, even in a clip we posted, I was like, I got back on my hair. No, like, why do I talk like that? I mix, I shuffle all the words anyway. Sorry, everybody. it happens it happens it happens to me too like you like you know words just come out in the scrambled way sometimes we're talking so fast and thinking about we're talking and thinking and listening to each other and reading notes all at once that sometimes you know things just get a little scrambled up it happens guys what are you gonna do well anyway she's mad because he didn't move to charleston and he knew that she wants to live in charleston and so he loves Charleston so why wouldn't he move there for her?

11:29Maybe he has a whole family on the side and Charlotte that he didn't want to tell her about. It happens.

11:34Ronnie Karam: It could happen. And I think also they're both too hot to compromise, you know? I feel like when you're both supermodel looking, like when both people in the relationship are that hot, one of them's like, but I'm hot. Why aren't you moving for me? And the other one's like, but I'm hot. Why aren't you moving for me? And then I think it creates like a hot battle and you can't fight fire with fire. That's not how it works. You can't fight hot with hot. You have to fight hot with ugly. Okay? Yeah, exactly. So her dad's like, babe, God doesn't give battles to the weak, only to his warriors. And you are resilient.

12:08You are a superstar. And I'm a phoenix. I rise from the ashes, okay? He's like, that wasn't the metaphor I was doing, but sure, you can do the phoenix one. I was just trying to mix it up, give you something new.

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14:53Yeah. I'm never going to like show my PowerPoint to TJ but it did remind me that we've been on multiple vacations and we have fun together. I love Maddie's like I love her PowerPoint her like loving PowerPoint that she's like embarrassed. Like he's never going to see all the visual evidence I've collected of how much we like each other as friends.

15:16Ronnie Karam: I just think it's funny because she's doing so well because her sponsor told her do not show him the PowerPoint. So she's like, yeah, yeah. I'm not going to show him the PowerPoint, but I still have the PowerPoint and it still means something. She's like really showing restraint by not showing him the PowerPoint. And it just keeps coming up in every episode. Like, well, I'm going to show him the PowerPoint. But we're friends. We're basically friends. Normally it's like, well, I don't want them to ever see that awful thing I said about them when I was mad at them. But in her case, it's like, I don't want them to ever see the fact that I made a beautiful collage of our friendship when I was mad at him.

15:54Ronnie Karam: She's showing her strength. Because her sponsor was like, do not send him that. So now we see a flashback where TJ was talking to Brad. And Brad's like, I mean, is this like a three people thing? like who's coming on this trip is emmy coming and tj's like well that is up to maddie and so we flash we flash back to three days ago and maddie's like um did you hey emmy did i tell you that we're going tubing at adisto and she's like oh my god we're like going on the river is oh my god we're going on the fucking river you fucking kidding me oh my god is unsafe that river is unsafe so maddie's like yeah i think it'll be fun yeah it's gonna be like really fun it'll be like really really fun i'm i'm gonna i'm gonna have a great time i'm having a great time i am not the aggressor okay so then uh tj is like um by the way there's no alligators in this water right like there's definitely gonna be out i feel like once you were below pennsylvania there's alligators in all the water in my mind yeah there's all i'm like oh upper maryland alligator country

17:01Ronnie Karam: ah northerners so tj's like um there's no alligators and she's like um i always say ignorance is bliss that's why i date joey marbles but let's just like not put that out in the universe so tj's like okay well i found a house and i'm just like gonna go ahead and book it because like being that you're not allowed to book houses on airbnb still she's like i know i mean like five years later i'm still banned I basically threw too many house parties in Airbnbs. One time I had friends all standing on the countertop and it broke. I had like cigarette butts left outside, beer cans left everywhere, food left in the fridge.

17:33I had someone so drunk that they peed on the mattress and they found out when they took the sheets off. One time we like literally just burned down a house and was like reduced to ashes. Like whatever, like sue me.

17:44Ronnie Karam: One time I went into a lake house and I just murdered everybody who was in there. It was fun. You know, the walls were bloody. I mean, a girl likes to party. So sue me. i literally would i'm like yes if you pee on my mattress i am suing you for a new mattress i'm suing you for a new counter yes she's telling these stories like oh you know these things happen no no it's awful you should be banned from the internet you're the reason you're the reason palm springs has noise ordering ordinances and the rest of us can't go party you know people like you you maddie shame shame on you so he's like well i was gonna ask the guys if they wanted to have like matching overalls because we could like you know have like a after party after our floating thing we could all wear overalls wouldn't that be cute oh fuck that makes me think i need to like tell the girls to get something oh i'm like you guys wear uniforms all day long and now you guys want to continue the match okay fine so uh they're like ho down ho down throw down and he says hopefully no one's gonna get thrown down like emmy she goes oh my god i am speechless okay i'll see you later work bye yeah so now it's republic shift maddie's djing everybody's working and uh joe sees a group of ladies passing he's like uh hey you you guys came on the right weekend you want to come on in yeah come on in here it's me emo joe emo joe yeah i'm sorry i'm sorry brad's ignoring emmy still and brad is like you know there's a horrible taste in my mouth towards emmy i'm disappointed you can't sit there and walk back your apology and say that you're only apologizing because you're worried about what I would do to you.

19:22That's like fucked up. You're not being genuine. And I can't be friends with someone that's like that. So then Emmy is like, whatever. She's like, so have you heard what's been going on like with the rumblings of like Brad still being like upset with me and stuff like that? And I was like, what, because of why? Like, do you know? Do you know? Well, apparently he thinks that because I felt, I guess unsafe wasn't the right word. I guess, yeah. I already apologized to Brad. So I don't know what got him all stirred up and upset with me again. I really don't because when we were at Folly, we were great.

19:53But leaving Folly, we were fine. But now it's just like cold shoulder. Like, what the hell have I done? By the way, if I hear the word Folly one more time on this show, I'm literally going to have to cancel my subscription to YouTube TV. I cannot hear them mention Folly one more time.

20:06Ronnie Karam: Folly Beach. Folly. I just want to go and I want to have a conversation with him because I don't want this to be something that we bring on our trip to a diphto. and I just like really, I just really want to have a good time. So then Justin's like, hey, you excited to go tubing tomorrow, Brad? He's like, yeah, I'm excited. But I'm not getting in that water. There's alligators. Yeah, I don't like that water. Yeah, and Brad's like, dude, relax. Like, no, man, there's brain-eating amoeba in there, which by the way, I'm not going to lie, I also was like that because I feel like every five years there's like a story of some girl who goes canoeing in the South and like loses her arm because of either like, you know, flesh eating bacteria or like an amoeba gets in her brain.

20:45I just, I'm like, water in the South. I just don't fuck with it.

20:47Ronnie Karam: You literally say that about puddles. Like, we'll pass a puddle. You're like brain eating amoeba. And it's true. Because I used to think you're just, you know, kind of prissy about it. Because I live by a lake. So I'll mention the lake sometimes. Brain eating amoeba. I'm like, okay, mom. You know, but then last summer, there was a brain eating amoeba. They're like, do not walk your dogs at the lake right now. Because there's brain eating amoebas. But there's also like, like really poisonous steaks. and like I remember you ever seen that movie Mud with Matthew McConaughey? Why would I watch a movie called Mud?

21:18Ronnie Karam: Are you fucking kidding me? It was really good. It was really, really good. It had a very random cast. It was like that movie Worms. I'm not watching that. Mud had, I think because the guy's name was Mud. I think. I could be wrong. Like changing the way, there was Poisonous Stakes. It was one of those Southern Gothic movies. You know, it was like a fried green tomatoes thing like coming of age. Who doesn't love a fried green tomato? Right. And Jessica Tandy. Right. But like mud, it was one of these things where it's like, I remember waking up under the wheel of trees. And there was like, you know, it's like, don't go in the water.

21:51There's snakes in the water. And, you know, you don't need me to tell you what's happened. What happens? I mean, that's true.

21:58Ronnie Karam: But I got a snake. That's true. But like I went to HomeGoods yesterday and I looked around and I was like, these people are terrifying. It's like, who do you pick? You know, the snake or people? do you go into brackish scary water or do you go to home goods yeah look read the news the news is about humans bombing each other being racist to each other being awful just murder terror everywhere do you see a lot of snakes no you don't like maybe once in a while you'll see a snake i choose the snakes i have to say i'm looking at the cast of mud it is like tell me this is a southern gothic coming of age story without telling me that Reese Witherspoon is in it and she plays someone named Juniper Sam Shepard is in it I mean Sam Shepard only appears in southern gothic coming of age stories Sarah Paulson Michael Shannon it's all it's all just like when I grew up kind of stuff it was such a good movie I loved it a lot of missing teeth a lot of missing teeth in that one so Justin's worried about a brain eating amoeba babe they want more than a snack you know what i think that's the other thing what's there to save at this point you know uh so he's like yeah a 20 year old from boston goes out in a brain eating amoeba in charleston no this is what i'll say i'll go into the water and then i'll start acting crazy or i'll like i'll get to do the things they wanted to do and i'll say all the things i wanted to say and then i'll blame it on a brain eating amoeba that stays between us guys it's me justin i mean come on meanwhile the amoeba are like guys just remember there's gonna be some really dumb humans in the water today don't eat them don't eat them it's dangerous for us yeah they're like i don't want to go in that river douchebag incoming they're like i don't want to swim in that river today there's douchebags in there um so then michael's at the table he's like so are we interested in getting a bottle tonight like because uh oh my god lake's texting on her phone i mean we're working you don't get paid to sit down like if you're gonna sit go home and she's like what what the fuck me and michaels are like brother and sister and he is on my emergency contact list and so i can like 100 tell michaels is mad at me i'm just like trying to figure out why he's a bitch in this moment so i mean it's like brad um do you mind if we have a chat real quickly um so you know our conversation that we had out at folly um i've just been hearing rumblings that um you know there might have been a misperceived perception of the word that we might have said was unsafe.

24:30And, you know, like everything that happened in New York, like, I don't know, like every emotion I was feeling, like, it's like, um, I hear you. I just don't like really want to talk about it right now. It's like right up, right, right, right now. That means hands turn into paddles, you know, like when she gets upset, like she turns into like a little Lego person. She's like, what, what, what, right, right now? No, don't want to.

24:49Ronnie Karam: It's like, no, we're at work. And I just feel like this really isn't the time or place. Okay? So I'll hear you out, but just not right now. It's like, oh, God. So he's going to drag it out for all time. And he's like, yeah, I don't even know what's real and what's fake. All the lies, all the crying. You know, it's a waste. So for me, I just need to take a second and find the right words because this is serious stuff. Like, my feelings are genuinely hurt. And tomorrow we can have a conversation, Emmy, but just, like, not right now. She's like, I mean, yeah, I mean, I just don't, like, I don't want anything to be weird.

25:25Ronnie Karam: And that's why I wanted to, like, you know, talk about it. But, like, if you don't want to talk about it, like, we don't have to talk about it. It's okay. It's okay. You don't want to talk about it? Okay. We don't have to talk about it. Okay. Walking slowly out of the room. Okay. It's all okay. Don't hurt me. Do not hurt me. I'm slowly. You want my purse? Take my purse. Okay. I don't care. He has a gun, guys. He has a gun. He has a gun. I have children. Please don't hurt me. so he's like okay whatever so then um lake is uh lake goes up to michael's and she goes like how are you he goes good and then she's like good so then he michael's basically is like pulls brad to be like hey i'm i need you for one second like come over here behind this drapery he's like what's up like um i need you to help me protect me from me right now because like i'm getting really fucking annoyed like i'm over it like i'm just like really annoyed at the fact that like lake was still talking about the microaggression after I asked you not to talk about it with anybody.

26:19And we have a flashback to their conversation last week where Michael said, this is a conversation that Brad wants to have with Emmy and out of respect for Brad, just to like, don't say anything. So Michael says, you know, and Brad asked you not to talk about it with anybody. But then now the issue is that basically Lake mentioned something to this girl, Ella. But there's also a Bella. Isn't there a Bella and an Ella?

26:44Ronnie Karam: There's a Bella. yeah maybe it's bella so she told bella and so or ella i don't know i don't know ella bella so like it's like wait a minute what did you say bella ella and she's like um i literally just said like it's like the microaggression and it was like racist stuff and so i mean you know knew that they were talking about like the microaggression racist like stuff she's like um next time i tell you something don't say to emmy she's like oh my god did i fuck you over really bad. There are just like some things you don't share with everybody after you've shared those things with someone else.

27:19Okay? And this is like one of those things. So I can't be friends with someone that I can't trust. And it's like, I don't have the time and the energy for wishy-washy bullshit. Running a multi-million dollar fucking club. Okay? Now the next three men who are wearing Tommy Bahama, you get in for free. Get in here, bros.

27:36Ronnie Karam: Hasn't everybody been talking about this? I'm just so confused. Like, it's been a plotline. the entire cast sat around and talked about it. I think here's what bothers me is that what happens, what we see later on in the episode, what Michaels clarifies it is that he told Lake not to like tell, not to, not to say anything about this to anyone. And then Lake went and told Brad to clear the air, which I think she was totally entitled to because the whole issue is that Brad had an issue with Lake and Michaels was relaying that to Lake. But then later on, what Michaels is really upset about is that Brad told him something in confidence.

28:16And then he went and told Lake that thing in confidence. And then is upset that Lake went and told it to Ella because it makes Michaels look like a gossip. So it actually has nothing to do with the microaggression. Or I shouldn't say it's not primarily what it is. His issue is that he doesn't like looking like a gossip. and so he's going to excoriate lake for doing the same things that michael just did and we've seen this happen so many times on reality tv and that's why i got that's what i got upset about because it's like it's one thing to be like this is really serious like don't this is not fodder for like gossip i'm telling you this because you're involved in it but like don't gossip whatever but he is actually like complaining about the fact that that like lake went and said something that was told her in confidence when he had just said that he was told something in confidence so I'm like, Michael's.

29:07Ronnie Karam: But I guess his argument would be, well, I told Lake that because Brad was saying she wasn't standing up for him with the microaggression thing and that he would expect more from someone who would get it, basically. So that's more of a sensitive thing. So for her to go and be like, Brad's mad at me about a microaggression is, I don't know. To me, it's like you're all talking about this. And it's not. Well, I mean, it's not that it's not sensitive. It's just that you're all talking about it. and it's like the main plot line so why shouldn't she be able to talk about it like she's right she's a young girl and like if she has to go have this conversation with brad that wasn't an easy conversation for her to have i don't know i don't i was like i thought she did a good job in that conversation so right i know that he's not mad about that conversation he's mad that she told this girl ella but i don't know it's like you're gossiping at a restaurant and of course you tell people what you're drawing to me it just doesn't seem even if it was bad okay even if i'm totally getting this wrong and she shouldn't have done it okay i'm gonna i'm gonna just give that one you should if you said you wouldn't say something you shouldn't say it yeah but is it this bad that you need to be like completely ostracized and treated like shit exactly on a group i just don't think the punishment does not fit doesn't fit yeah it doesn't it's really mean like i think lake messed up for sure she shouldn't and it's also about a sensitive thing and you know as we'll see her mom you know her mom you know uh gives her peace of her mind at the end of the episode, which was hilarious.

30:33And that's what Michael should have done and been like, I love you, but like you fucked up. You shouldn't have done that. Why are you telling Ella of all people about this? Especially because this is about, this isn't just gossip. This is about a microaggression. You know, this is within our community. Why are you doing this? But like, he's just icing her out and then talking to everyone else about it. And I just think that's like shitty.

30:52Ronnie Karam: Like it's fine for him to go talk to everybody else about it, but not. And he's complaining that she's making him look like a gossip and then he's going and gossiping to everyone about how he's not a gossip and then she's making him look like a gossip and I think it's like totally obnoxious and she's like winds up like you know she's like just like meant to feel like a piece of shit at this group trip yeah I don't like it he comes off as a major asshole in this I think so Brad's like yeah you know it wasn't supposed to be a game of telephone that other people are getting involved with but it's Deeper than just my issues.

31:28Ronnie Karam: Lake and Michael have their own issues. Dun, dun, dun. So now Michaels and TJ go to get mani paddies. And Michaels is like, don't look at my toes. They're like grown out. Like, oh my God, they're like grown out so bad. I think it's cute when he laughs. He goes, he like purses his lips. He's like.

31:53So he's texting with this guy, Chad. And he's like, I'm dead. Like this is hilarious. And TJ is like looking like, oh, people text to flirt with you. What's that like? That looks nice.

32:06Ronnie Karam: We still send Morse code in my age range. So that's cool. Are you guys, are you talking to the same guy that you talked, that you went on a date with the other day? And so we see a flashback to Michael's on a date. And this guy is like, at the beginning of the summer I was on like a huge oyster kick, but now not so much oh fascinating and then the text we see is like hey you round and he's like oh my god i can't i like literally can't hilarious he's so funny oh my god that's so good um what app are you on it's like raya it's like oh well i haven't been accepted by the guy i feel like the reason that you have better luck is because of the age bracket right i'm like he's also like tall and gorgeous so it's like oh also it's like it's not because i post naked so we see pictures of him and he's like in a speedo and stuff and he says yeah last year like i wanted to be like a fucking house husband and now this year i'm a slut and like i'm 23 and like My frontal lobe is not fully developed yet.

33:12Ronnie Karam: What?

33:16He's like, you know, I go on a run. I'm like posting half naked. I'm like, I don't care anymore. Bring the meat. Like, let me meet some meat, you know? And the producer's like, you know, those are like fully thirst traps, right? He's like, oh, yeah, girl. I'm thirst trapping. I worked too hard on this body not to give the people what they want. Like, I wish I was like more naked right now. Like, I could even like flex my pucks. And then all of a sudden, he's like shirtless. He's like, oh, next question.

33:41Ronnie Karam: I'm like, no joke. My DMs are like way too young or way too old. And they're just like, or they're disgusting messages, you know, like suck my cock or send me a whole pic.

33:52To be fair, you have like a wiener brand.

33:58Ronnie Karam: That's true. Maybe you should take the giant wiener off your profile pic. I remember being 29 and I was about to turn 30 and I was like, by 33, I'm going to be with someone that I want to be with forever. And at 34, approaching 35, it's getting a little scary. I mean, when I'm 40, I better not still be single. And I definitely better not be listening to emo music. So he's like, it's a huge confidence issue right now. Like, what's going on? I'm like, am I ugly? He's like, no, you're not ugly. We made out, like me and TJ, and like, I wouldn't make out with you if you were ugly. Like, the thing is, like, TJ is like so picky.

34:37Ronnie Karam: Like, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so picky. like he's really picky and he's like god i just feel like i'm in a hole he's like you're in a hole i'm in a hole we're bonding if you were to describe what your ideal man looks like what does he look like um in the taller range of height which is my way of saying tall um dark features dark hair definitely someone that's tall dark and handsome i feel like that's my type and of course they're like showing clips of michaels with every one of these characteristics and then they ask michaels he's like um i definitely like somebody that has a great body i do like older men from my previous history someone who loves to vacuum all day long someone who loves to i don't know sell hot dogs some of the full head of hair um things like that yeah and it's like oh my god they're perfect for each other so then we see a dead roach and it's just like oh my god he's dead rest in peace big homie like this is gonna be you if you don't find somebody tj just like a dead roach on the ground hey that roach sent you a text that said show me your hole i can't like i'm dead commercials here comes one right now

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37:15So now it's time to go out to Adisto and TJ is like, they're all meeting up at the house and TJ is like, Michael, those are like bottom shorts. She's like, no. So they get it. They're all saying hi. They're loading up cars and stuff. And Mia's like, is everyone ready to hoe down, throw down?

37:37Ronnie Karam: So Joe is making big headlines in the friend group because his hair is different. And he's like, this is what my hair looks like. We look nothing in it, you guys. It's like emo Joe. It's crazy. I took the bump out. I kind of like Joe's hair like that. That's crazy. Looks like Trevor's hair. I miss Trevor. So then Michaels gets in the car and he's like, I'm not getting wet. Joe, what did you do with all my cucumbers? Oh, my God, the cucumbers. This is what happens when you have a friend who grows vegetables. You're giving that shit away for weeks at a time. Do you know how many people I gave lemons?

38:08Ronnie Karam: Because my friend's mother has a lemon tree. I gave so many lemons away. And they fall off the tree so they don't look the same as in the store. They're all kind of like misshapen and stuff. and people are like, what are you giving me these fucking misshapen lemons for? Yeah. I wouldn't do that. I would accept all your lemons, Ronnie. Gladly. Oh, that's sweet. Yeah. I really would. So, Michael's, yeah, he's like, well, where are my cucumbers? Oh, I put them on a sock drawer where there are other toys. So they're driving and in one car, Molly is like, Joe, I don't think I've ever seen your hair like the way it does currently.

38:45He's like, no. This is like what it is Like what my hair looks like It's like He's getting ready for emo night Yeah Like I hope everyone's getting excited It's like not even happening this episode It's such a big deal

38:56Ronnie Karam: Yeah So Are people gonna do Body shots later Oh my god you guys And Julia's like Oh my god TJ This past weekend I looked at timestamps You guys were making out For like a full hour You and Michaels And she said And Julia's like Yeah Multiple times at the bar in Folly Folly Folly Folly just want to get in there a few times so you don't see me much uh the first video that we have is like 10 12 and the picture that i took of y 'all sitting at the bar was 11 0 7 so for a full hour you guys were like making out full on full on making out at folly folly folly folly folly folly folly folly oh my god there's so much tension you guys oh my god and she's like um i wonder what they're talking about in the other car i'm awkward so then the other card molly is like is it true that bbls smell bad maddie goes i've never heard that rumor i heard they smell like ass why would bbl smell bad like meaning that like the implant would smell does it mean like after you get one like maybe what you're draining or something maybe it smells bad or does it mean like your butt's so big now you can't wipe it properly smell bad no idea then the other car Justin announces I drank my piss before for money too and this is a guy who's worried about brain eating amoeba so then that's a choice have you ever tasted your own cum uh Julia's like have you TJ oh I wasn't expecting the tables to be turned on me that way so quickly he just laughs he's like so then we go in the car with Emile Lake and Bella and um it's just silent and Lake's like I have hiccups um that really sucks.

40:37Ronnie Karam: That sucks. She goes, yeah. Okay, back in the car with Julie and Brad.

40:44So they're still asking about tasting each other's cum or their own cum, whatever, whatever. So then we go to Emmy and they have. And then Emmy and Lake is like, I don't like that we're in the middle of nowhere. I think I would like to pull Brad aside. I'm just going to disregard your fear. Sorry. I want to pull Brad aside and have a conversation with him as soon, as soon as possible, as soon as possible. Then Justin and the other car is like, hey, so Brad, you still have no inclination to speak with Emmy, right? It's like, I mean, I'm going to talk with her when I talk with her, but the thing is, this is our last conversation and it's just done until the next conversation.

41:21Ronnie Karam: So in the car with Emmy and Lake, Emmy's like, this had nothing to do with Brad being like with anything, like with his skin color or anything like that. I mean, I don't even notice he's black. And when I do, I'm like, oh my God, yeah, I forgot you're black. that was scary but anyway you know like the thing is like our i i i just don't know like i don't think he's an aggressor like i don't i don't think he was an aggressor i'm like it's like but like the thing is like when you talk about microaggressions like i'm like understanding of brad's struggles and he's dealt with it his whole life yeah yeah because like uh bella she's like you're like an empath yeah you're like an empath to your core she's like yeah i'm an empath but it's like okay because like you have to think about how we felt in that moment so lake tells us that it's like hard for her because she doesn't want to get involved because brad told her that he wants to have the conversation so she's trying to respect brad's wishes and emmy's like i did nothing at the end of the day you get microaggressions for microaggressions and i did nothing i did nothing i did absolutely nothing she's doing her anything while driving the car I'm surprised they did not flip that vehicle.

42:27Ronnie Karam: She's so unhinged. So then Julie and Brad, Brad's like, okay, you guys are tucked back there. And TJ's like, yeah, it's going to be a long way for Emmy to drive home later. So they get out of the car as they check out this lake house. It's in the boonies. And it's this big, you know, pretty house. And, well, I mean, you know, the way they're looking at it, like, this is gorgeous. Yeah. Yeah. And it's picking rooms. They're choosing rooms and stuff. And there are, by the way, alligators in the river nearby. So Michael's is, everyone's saying how they're choosing rooms. And Michael's is like, wait, I feel like you and Marty should just pick the rooms because like you guys plan the trip.

43:07I feel like a selfish bitch, but there's a queen bed in there. So Joe, you and me, we can sleep in there. And if you pick that room, there has to be three of you. You guys can't have sex.

43:17Ronnie Karam: Oh, Joe. Damn it. so the gays decide to sleep together and Michaels is like well I'm eager to share a room with TJ because like I do not want to share with Lake I would rather spend the night with TJ than I would like right now is that the only reason you want to share a room with TJ you're two gays you must love each other right you guys must kiss want to kiss because you're both gay he's like yeah yeah so Brad Julia's like Brad we can do the air mattress and he's like I kind of wanted to have sex she goes Bradley so then everyone's like oh my god the kids are gonna make out I don't know they're just getting settled in and stuff and Joe's telling us yo I thought this like I mean it's kind of on me but like I thought this was gonna be like a romantic trip with me and like Maddie but like I guess not cause like I thought we'd have our own fucking bedroom and they cussed at me she's like oh my god we are gonna get along so fucking comfortably together we are gonna be so fucking comfortable you guys sleep so hard I sleep so hard.

44:23Yeah, they're not having sex on this trip, okay? Because Maddie already went through that once with Trevor. And we see a flashback to the first season when they had sex in the back of that RV. Maddie's like, mortified. I was mortified. Like, oh, my God. I'm never having sex on a trip again.

44:37Ronnie Karam: I need a lint roller. Lake texts, Michaels, are you mad at me? And she says, I've been blowing up his phone and like nothing. Michaels is in person, like Caspering me. That's just not us, you know? Like, who do you call when you need something? Who do you call when you just want to call somebody? Me, okay? That's like 24-7. This is weird. What the hell? He is fully, he sees the text and he's fully ignoring her. And so now they're doing, so Michael's like, body shots, guys, too early, whatever. So they're all just continuing to talk. And Emmy's like, Emmy's saying, like, she talked to Lake and Bella about how everything's been going on.

45:18And she goes, somehow I'm the bad person now. Brad was the one that put the insinuation out there that I thought he was some sort of aggressor just because I said he was unsafe and he was going to kill me and I had to have him change rooms. I mean, why would I ever say that?

45:34Ronnie Karam: Maddie's like, but I thought you said something. Like the Michaels was like, you know, like Emmys, be careful what you say. She goes, I said, Brad, like you're intimidating. Like I was like scared of how he was going to retaliate. Like that's all I meant. And, like, look at how you retaliated against you with that fucking blowjob rumor. Like, I just feel like there's, like, another conversation to be had. Do you know what I mean? But then you don't want to have the conversation. And so, like, what am I supposed to do? Yeah, so you're trying to be, like, friends with everyone again. And it would be nice if he could acknowledge that.

46:03But, like, I'm telling you right now, don't get your expectations up that he will. No, no, I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. So then they all go outside. And Mia's doing cartwheels. She has, like, a one-handed cartwheel, which is great. except for the fact that Brad blocks the shot. Come on now. And then Brad is like, I didn't know you had that kind of skeptic athleticism. And then Justin's doing it. He does like a backflip and everything and kind of showing off. And Mia's like, you know what he's like? It's like when little boys try to do something to impress girls in the playground. And I'm like, very nice, very nice.

46:37Whatever, he's dating Charlie. It doesn't even matter.

46:39Ronnie Karam: I am impressed that he can do backflips or flips or whatever he did. But then he's one of those guys he can do that so he does it 20 more times he just keeps doing it throughout the whole episode there's like one time where like some there's a whole conversation that's happening and they cut back to like michaels to see his reaction and then you just see justin do a backflip in the background it's like he just can't stop yeah so um michael's is like oh my god are you like hot right now because you saw him do a flip like you've got stuff dripping down your leg mia oh it's like yeah um if you want to catch my attention then maybe you should like backflip with the shiny amex i'm just kidding i'm not a gold digger i just want my ups okay yeah if you want me to fuck you like find my ups box that would be great so lake emerges and she's wearing this kind of like um red uh sort of it has like a hood it's like lacy kind of cover up and just sort of like serving a look which is funny because like this is not the show that that's ever gonna land because no one seems to understand you're at a river what's happening you're at a river you're at a brown river with amoeba and alligators in it and she's like um michaels can you take some pictures of me he goes what could you do me a favor what could you can you hear me yeah what can you take pictures what can you take some pictures of me no he just turns around and goes back into his room and sets the door he's like so annoying and he goes ask me to take your pictures he's like and she's like this trip is honestly just off to such a shitty start i don't want to be here so now she's in this like look but she's moping around in this look and then she like walks off to a dock and she sits at the end of the dock and just like on her butt in the look like oh she's he's such an asshole he's an asshole and like but also like the look is be like yeah look at me like look at i'm like Like, I'm serving cut fitness right now.

48:37But instead, she's just like sad and rumpled in it. I felt so bad for her. But also, it was kind of funny that she had this whole look on. And she was just like sitting on a dock.

48:46Ronnie Karam: Yeah. So then Maddie and me are like, oh, my God. Let's do a TikTok. Let's do one of the trends. And Maddie goes, okay, give me five seconds. Because, like, there's this game I saw on TikTok where one person's running. And then the other person, like, literally tries to catch them. So it's Chase. Tag. You're playing Tag. Are you guys reinventing? Are you guys thinking you're inventing stuff on TikTok? I thought there was going to be some twists, some hilarious, clever Gen Z twist. It's literally them playing tag or chase. I guess they call it chase where you grew up.

49:20Ronnie Karam: This is really a generation who didn't get to go outside when they were kids. This is so funny. There's this game on TikTok. Okay, so you're pretending people are different birds, but then everyone sits around in a circle and you're tapping people on the head and be like, you're a bird. You're a bird. You're a bird. But then one person, you're like, you're a different bird. And then they have to chase you. It's like amazing. It's like, talk, talk is this game where like some, two people hold a rope and then the other person jumps on the road. Like they try to jump over and try not to fall. It's like really cool.

49:49Ronnie Karam: It's tick tock. Double Dutch. No, it's new thing. So they play, they literally play tag and they film it. Like this is the most novel thing they've ever seen. and um i'm also like when does your game end because like if you catch if if the if the chaser catches the person the game ends but then if the other if like how long do you give that person to to reach the other person like when how long is your video that's what i'm trying to say yeah so maddie's like well i'm like used to being chased by the cops when i was younger and like i was like partying a lot and like the cops like boom boom boom hit the door and like you are in the woods you were like sprinting and i got away every time until i didn't and i was in rehab but whatever i was good at it great story great lesson in there um so now tj is running and julia's chasing him and um brad's like why does tj look like a bad kid running from his mom tj's like if you want to see me run fast have a pretty girl chase me oh girls so then um julia can't catch up with tj and he's like i'm gonna throw up so now there's a sprinter van and michael's is like what kind of bus is this it's usually yellow nice nice bus this and they all get in and everyone's like we're all fun yay how's everyone feeling we're all like fun but then we zoom in and see lake is like sad but of course no one pays attention to her so no one's like lake feel better um so they uh they go to this river this brown disgusting river and uh maddie's like guys we're gonna go tubing and then we're gonna have lunch on the beach with tubing water all over our hands and then we're gonna play some games who's excited like yay and justin's like what if there's brain eating amoeba like i care about that stuff and the staff the staff lady's like oh you don't get those here okay because rivers move that's for still water okay these rivers move and joe's like there's nothing for them to eat and they're like yeah it's not stagnant water okay so let's get into it justin's like but are there snakes or there alligators i mean what's the situation there like well you know you go to the river you stay in the middle of the river because if you're on the sides of the river that's where the snakes are and the and alligators and stuff like that that'll eat you so just don't you know don't ever come out from the middle okay just stay in the middle when you're ready to get out of the water you can't or you'll get eaten okay just stay out there.

52:21It's like, that is not reassuring to me. I do not have enough confidence that the law of averages say that the alligators are by the side. Like if I'm sitting in a, in a tube and my butt is in that water, if there's, if I know an alligator can come and especially grab me by the butt, no, thanks. I am sitting on a beach. I am taking the sprinter van to the volleyball nets. I'm not participating in this.

52:42Ronnie Karam: Yeah. But these ladies are like, seriously, you're asking if there's anything in a river? Yes. There are living things in a river. You fucking idiot. It looks disgusting. The whole thing is disgusting. And they get in this river. So then they join together in this giant flower petal formation with their tubes. And then they just are all sitting there floating, which they could have just been doing if they all sat in chairs on land, but that's fine. And they're splashing each other with the gross water. And then Justin's like, he's like, Michael, so what are we going to hear tonight? What's going to happen?

53:15And Brad's like, yeah.

53:16Ronnie Karam: I'm taking you tubing. That's it. I've gone tubing. It's a thing. Yeah. I've gone tubing, but like I've gone tubing in like. It's not just like sitting in a chair. I've gone tubing, but like in nice rivers. But I'm like, it's not. I am not risking getting killed by an alligator just to go tubing. Like put me tubing in a nice body of water, not this. Okay. Fair enough. So, yeah, they're talking around that. And then everyone starts making fun of what's his buns for hooking up with Countess Luann. because they're like, okay, who's the oldest guy that everyone's hooked up with? They're like, oh my god, yeah.

53:54Ronnie Karam: And Michael's like, define hookup. And Molly goes, um, 64 for me. And everyone's like, 64? Jesus! I didn't know he just could get that high. She's like, I had some Rupplement shots during my Rupplement phase. And everyone looks a little younger when you drink Rupplement. Okay. I'm glad I never had a Rupplement phase. Um, so, uh, she basically, then, then they're asking about Joe and the countess and Brad's like, he's like, well, I mean, you know, like it depends if you know, you actually think I got with a countess. Cause like I didn't. And no, no one believes him. Right. And Joe's like, I did not have sex with her.

54:37I promise you. Like if I did, I would have like nothing to lie about. It's like, they're like, please like give it up. And Emmy's like, Joe had whiskey dick. I was hammered

54:47Ronnie Karam: I have text when I'm hammered and then he goes yeah it's the only reason you didn't fuck Countess Luann okay he's like yeah I couldn't get it up for once you guys and Maddie's like yeah I believe it cause Joe like you know what he was drinking that night and if Joe's drunk like the dick doesn't work like it's just how it is and then we see a clip of Countess Luann saying well he did come to my apartment and we had a little bit of an after party and now yes so a lady doesn't kiss and tell But she kisses and sings 3, 2, 1 I fucked Joe Bradley He fucked me too We fucked together And I would do it Line Again Oh my god, that is the worst kept secret They totally fucked And Joe's like, but I did sleepover And when we woke up in the morning She like made me eggs And she called them like French eggs or something It was like crazy Like eggs a la Frenchie It was like, it was like so funny Eggs a la Francaise, sir God, you really aren't gay.

55:44I know. And then I was, like, walking around, and I was, like, look at this beautiful painting. It's, like, because, like, you know, I like art. It's, like, very emo of me, you know, because my bangs were down. And she goes, like, my daughter painted that. I'm, like, wow, how old is her daughter? And she goes, 28. And at the time, I was 28. So, like, yeah, she's awesome.

56:02Ronnie Karam: So now they get out of the water, and they're having subs on the beach. And I liked, what's her bun? She's, like, oh, my God, this is, like, the perfect size sandwich. Mia. it's like a third of a sandwich like this is like perfect size then tj who has a full set of abs he goes i'm gonna hide my fat with a towel and he covers himself up i was like this is this is the problem that our community has like oh my god look at that fat tj over there yeah crazy so michaels brings up that tj told him about his walk with great or his talk his talk with grace yesterday and or walk i guess it is walk and tj's like yeah it was like look i'm not saying your feelings aren't valid but like clearly this has gone on too long like you need some help and you can't say shit like that like you know and then she got on y 'all's friendship maddie and maddie's like oh god so they're asking her like what are your next steps with grace and she's like i'm not talking to her i'm done with her i mean it's like yeah all they do is have conversations and then you know she says you're a bad friend to her and then you never give her a call yeah maddie's basically like i don't want this responsibility anymore it's like a full-time job I want to quit.

57:11I put my two weeks in, you know, I have empathy for grace and what she's going through and I can relate to it more than anyone else in this group. But like, when you keep enabling that behavior, you're just telling someone that's okay to behave that way. So she's basically like, yeah, I'm just going to let it go. And she's, it's like nothing has been rock bottom enough for her yet. Like me, stop being friends with her is not going to be rock bottom. She has to know rock bottom on her own.

57:34Ronnie Karam: Yeah. And Joe's like, yeah, but like, like in her heart and her mind, she knows that like she needs the healing, you know, guys. So you know what heals? Cornhole. Let's play some cornhole. Yo, the contest one. Um, so cornhole time, they're playing my favorite game. And then, uh, Justin is like, yeah, let's play some volleyball now. Like, yeah, okay, cool. So they're going to play some volleyball. And, um, uh, then Brad is telling me that she needs to be single. You know, she's never been single. She always goes from, from man to man to man and just has to be single for once in your life. And she's like, this is facts.

58:12It's facts, unfortunately. And I think, oh, well, I don't know if this is going to happen with Justin and I. By the way, I'm just going to say this right now. I don't think anyone in the audience cares what happens with Mia and Justin. I'm sorry, Mia. You're great. You're fun. We love you.

58:24Ronnie Karam: But Justin's like a definite downgrade. You can't bring Troy on the show and then go to Justin. Like it doesn't work like that. We don't care. So she's like, you know, like Jordan's into him, but we're not friends. Like I don't even have her name saved on my fucking phone. So like if he's singly single, why not? And he's telling them, yeah, we're supposed to go out on a date. And then she said rain check. But then like she wouldn't even rain check me. So everybody's laughing. And then they go play volleyball. And Emmy's sucking at it. And she's like, oh, my God, there's something about volleyball that just like pisses me off.

58:53Ronnie Karam: Like I played soccer. Like I played field hockey. I played softball any day of the fucking week. Like you want me to play softball? Play that. But like fucking volleyball? What the hell? and so it was a lot of volleyball and then um molly's like you know molly and like michaels and i think tj are sitting on like a little bench and molly's like and he's such a bitch but just got such a good ass yeah well it used to be bigger michael's like yo what the fuck it's like well you gotta give credit where credits do michael goes my thing is like i'm just like don't give a fuck like yeah michael's the the primary person who doesn't give a fuck as he ices out lake so she walks up to him and um she's like why aren't you guys playing and he's like um i'm tired and he looks away from her and so she's like okay so she just walks away and he's like i know that she can feel me she can feel that i've been like weirdo and stuff and tj goes yeah you do that i know how i know how to get under people's skin like yeah i just like can't help it like i can't be fake to you if i'm not like fucking with you like i had a conversation with her about the situation broad and molly's like oh you're talking about the unsafe comment and the thing is like i had a conversation with her about it and i told her to keep it like between us and what did she do she turned around and went and told ella ella turned around and told emmy and michaels tells us when you grow up in like an hispanic household you're like kind of taught that like your family issues stay in your house and like lake is the cousin that goes to your aunt and says something and then like your mom calls the next day and is like why were you being such a shismosa you know what i'm saying um and so lake's like oh my god they're literally talking about me over there like i just heard it i heard my name and michael's is like yeah well you keep putting your foot in your mouth and like i can't defend that like predita my friend like you're done so he tells us again that brad was confiding in him and you know then she went around and talked to it to everybody or whatever and now he knows what's going on and now he looks bad when he was just trying to relay a conversation to help out lake in that situation and now he looks like a chismoso yeah so lake is like i'm about to leave like this he's like i'm in a place where like i know i can't trust her and i can't have a friendship with somebody that i can't trust sorry so now there's more volleyball and then they're finally done baby i love he's like i don't want to be a gossip I'm going to tell everybody here how I feel about like constantly all episode except for like yeah exactly that's what I don't like about this is that to me this seems like an infraction but it's nothing that requires this much when you're 22 or 23 this feels like the same way to to deal with it but like when you're older you realize it's so stupid just say like you really disappointed me like don't ever do that again and then have fun right but this is so extra too much so lake's like oh my god when michaels is in that you mood you do not want to poke that bear because like when that bear gets released you saw what happened to molly and then we see him screaming in molly's face and um so brad comes over to talk to michaels and he's like what did you say about me and he's like it was the same conversation i had with you and Mia's like wait why can't why can't I hear it Mike's like I don't want to talk about it like drop it she's like but you can't act like that way and say drop it she goes because I don't want to talk I don't want to get pissed she's like Maddie what did she just tell you nothing I don't I don't think that there's a problem it's like well then why is she being like this she goes well I think that she was playing volleyball and she heard you guys talking about her and she's just like I feel bad for Leak you know Michaels makes it very well known when he is upset and she's like not dumb she She picks up on it.

1:02:42She feels the energy. The only person that hasn't been vocal about his issues with Lake is Lake herself. And I feel so bad for Lake that I'm just not going to go over to her and console her and make her realize that she has more friends than just Michaels.

1:02:53Ronnie Karam: Yeah. So, um, Michael says he's so annoyed and Maddie's like, why? That's your friend. And he's like, not right now. I don't feel bad for her. I don't care. Like when you and I have a conversation and keep it between you and I don't go tell other people. And she's like, okay, so you care that she went to a lot of people. It's like, yeah, it's pissing me off because, like, it's not a conversation for her to have with other people. And she's like, so is it like the Emmy saying the unsafe thing? He goes, yeah, and it's not that big of a deal. But actually, it does have. But the conversation did have to do with Lake.

1:03:25The whole reason why Michael's brought it up was he said, Brad feels like you are not like you were not defending him enough about the microaggression. So Lake was directly involved. involved, you know, I mean, maybe Michaels is saying, you know, Lake talking to Ella or Bella or Balella about microaggressions in general is not appropriate, which is fine. But like, she was part of this. It's not like, not like she, like, I think she has a right to speak about it.

1:03:56Ronnie Karam: So Michaels is saying, ah, it's a big deal. And she kept talking. He's just going on and on to everybody but her as usual and so then um this is where justin tries to hop over hammock and falls down yeah um so then lake goes up to bella and maddie and lake is like was that about me bella's like no we weren't talking about you i mean i'm gonna be honest with you it was about a comet made at the folly house folly folly folly you know which comet i'm talking about we talked about it on the way here okay all right shall i do charades i love charades okay two words no no just tell me okay all that comment well i talked to brad about it man's like yeah but then apparently you went and talked to other people about it and it was like supposed to be a conversation between like you and him so she's like oh well that's a crazy reason to be mad at me for like when brad is perfectly fine like he's dealing with these issues with emmy like why are you mad at me like pick and choose your battles like don't choose them with me like i've always been on your team So now everyone gets on the bus and Lake just walks off and gets on the phone with her mom, Jerry.

1:05:01Ronnie Karam: And she's like, so, mom, like, there's really songs because, like, Michael's is mad at me for this whole, like, Brad talk. Like, when I told Ella and she told Emmy and she goes, what did you tell her, honey? You've got to keep your mouth shut. Learn to keep your mouth shut. She's like, oh, mom, like, I just told her, like, asking her for, like, advice. And she said, isn't she white? You're asking a white girl for advice about how to deal with black people, honey. She's like, Mom, no. Do you not know? Pull your shit together. She's like, this whole thing is fucked up. It's real fucked up shit. Jared's like, you can't continue to break people's trust, honey.

1:05:39You can't run your mouth. All I want to do is go home. She's like, you know it's what gets you in trouble, so quit doing it. Mom's just like reading her for filth.

1:05:51Ronnie Karam: Yeah, she's like, I didn't think it was going to go off. off just you don't talk to white people about black people business it's like mom god can't win man she's like i have no one else to call i'm gonna call my mom and her mom's like nope you suck yeah her mom's like don't do that you fucked up don't talk to white people about black people business and i love you i'll talk to you later like that's how you deal with it that's great i was watching dom was cracking the fuck up on the sofa he was just like it was so bad um anyway fun episode and uh but it didn't really break my heart to see lake so sad and then next week she's like sobbing at the dinner table i don't know i really enjoy lake so much so we'll see how that all plays out in the meantime thanks for being here and we'll catch you tomorrow for oh it's a three episode day we've got beverly hills we've got rory and we've got Ladies of London.

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