#3296 RHOBH S15E16 Part Two: One Foot Out The Dorit

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1:00Ben Mandelker: Watch what crappens. Oh, I mean, watch what crappens.

1:04Ronnie Karam: Who cares what happens when there's so much that crappens? Well, hello and welcome to Watch What Crappens. This is part two of a two-part recap. If you're like, hey, wait a minute, I didn't hear part one. Guys, it's because we put out a lot of recaps. Go back and listen to part one, okay? It's before this one. Bye. Enjoy the show.

1:26Ben Mandelker: So Erica's like And now Erica Now we see her in her like drag queen makeup In the confessional and she's like Motherfucker I am beyond Mad Like all you Forgetting Spit it out You're mad okay

1:49Ronnie Karam: I love when Erica does that

1:51Ben Mandelker: And now we have flashbacks

1:52Ronnie Karam: I am beyond Okay, Erica. So we see flashbacks. 2018, LVP calls out Dorit in front of the group for Lucy Lucy Applejuice being placed in the shelter. That's not even how that happened. These editors, I swear to God, are still so biased. That's not what happened. They're like, why are you yelling at her about Lucy Lucy? Why are you telling her about it? Why are you bringing her on camera? Say something about Lucy Lucy. And she's like, okay, well, the dog ended up in a shelter. Oh, my God, she brought up Lucy Lucy Applejuice. Burn her at the stake.

2:23Ben Mandelker: Well, either way, I mean, look, you know, I've been very critical of Erica for the years. I've always felt like she hasn't shared enough. I felt like she is self-produced. But like one thing that you have to say about the Fox Force 5 is that they always protected each other and they always covered for each other. And they would do like faux moments of accountability or like these like little petty squabbles to show that, no, they could be critical of each other. But ultimately, they cared most about like rallying the troops and sending new people off the show. That's how at least it feels, whether or not it's real or not.

2:52Ben Mandelker: and as a result of that, they've had each other's back. Because they've always been ganging up on other people

2:58Ronnie Karam: to get them out. And you know, this LVP thing is a perfect example, and that's when it formed, right, to get out LVP. So they did that.

3:07Ben Mandelker: Not only that, but there was also talk that that season that that was a huge distraction from shit that was going on in Dorit's personal life with finances, right? Like, wasn't the whole thing like, oh, there's bankruptcies, and this was a great distraction. So, there's always been this and eric that like and erica is like they've i mean it's a little conspiratorial i've actually personally never truly believed that they created all this frenzy to hide each other's like scandals because i just don't think that they're smart enough to act that way but it uh you do feel like like they they do cover for each other a lot and that's been one of the to the detriment of the show quite often however that being said it's like well they are still like having each other's back.

3:49Ben Mandelker: So when Dorit is like, you've Bose has had my back more than anyone here. It's like, oh, these ladies have protected you Dorit though. Like to the audience of the audience.

4:01Ronnie Karam: Then, but every season is a new season. I mean, you can't bring up stuff from 2018 and it's like the same as, you know, five years later, six years later.

4:09Ben Mandelker: I can, I, of course I will do it. That's what we do. I'll be like, remember in 2011 when Dorit, when Carl stole a hanger from Camille Grammer that just shows she's been a bitch all this time.

4:23Ronnie Karam: Yeah, well look, they have been there for her, but this year they haven't. I mean, this year Kyle's come for Dorit and Erica's had Kyle's back. Erica hasn't been coming for her as strong, I don't think, but ultimately she's had Kyle's back in the whole thing. So I think like, I've always had you back. Yeah, but you don't now, so, you know. And I think Erica's thing could be, I wouldn't even have a problem with Erica's thing, again, for the millionth time. But because they talk about it a million times on the show, we have to repeat it a million times. If Erica was like, you're late and it's fucking rude, Dorit.

4:54Ronnie Karam: If that was her thing, then that's fine. But jumping in with Kyle when it's just like go after Dorit and Dorit's attacking Kyle. To kind of co-sign that, I think, is showing that you're on Kyle's side. And I wouldn't fuck with her either.

5:06Ben Mandelker: By the way, as long as we're on the topic of bringing up grudges, here's a grudge that I forgot to mention. when Kyle was trying to get everyone to have her back. Like, we all said it, right? It's not just me. We all said it. We all said it, and everyone was crickets. It's funny how quiet Kyle was several years ago when Sutton was in the place of Kyle, and Sutton was confronting Erica about, like, we all have questions about this scandal, and we were all talking about it, right? And then no one said anything. It was just Sutton out there, even though they had all had, even more blatantly, by the way, a group discussion.

5:43Ben Mandelker: including Dorit. And Dorit was actually very vocal in that group discussion. They all sat there and talked about what's going on with Erica and then someone went out there to do the dirty work and they all sat there quietly. So Kyle, you know, what goes around comes around. Yeah.

5:59Ronnie Karam: So Erica's like, well, it seems like you need everybody to come to you so you can say to them, I'm mad that you kept this from me. But you know what? I'm actually mad that we had to sit there at this table and wait for you. Okay, finally, we're at the real point, which is you're late. And Dorit's like, well, good. At least you're being honest in Dorit. So thank you.

6:19Ben Mandelker: So Erica leads. Erica is so mad. Here's what I think I really responded to was that this was a true, honest emotion that Erica is feeling. And it was also incredibly relatable to be like the friend who's always late. It's like finally someone is going to fucking say something to them. But she is like, Erica's like, you see, she is really mad.

6:41Ronnie Karam: and she's been mad it's so funny when erica's like okay i'm gonna be mad now everybody ready you where where are you i was talking to my kids jeez you've been left on the charger too long

6:57Ben Mandelker: jeez yeah and dorit is like i was talking to my kids she goes okay great how long does that take we all have kids i have a little a little baby a little baby on the police force who's 31. one. So why'd you keep us all waiting? Your kids are more important than everyone else's kids? She goes, I didn't fucking say that. If I'm checking on my kids, it doesn't mean that they're more important than your kids. Oh, really? Well, then why don't you tell us? Text us and say you're checking on your kids. You'll be ready in five minutes. Then you know what? The entire group goes, oh, hey, she's checking on her kids.

7:26Ben Mandelker: Let's give her five. But you don't think you, you don't think you

7:28Ronnie Karam: needed to do that, did you? Guess what? I left you guys today. I didn't show you anything. Oh, yeah, well, I don't know you anything other than the truth, which is why we don't like it. We don't like it. That is the truth.

7:43Ben Mandelker: And I'll say it because these motherfuckers won't. We don't like it. See, by the way, she just did the exact same thing that Kyle did, but she phrased it in a much more commanding way. She didn't say, like, guys, have my back. She goes, I'll say it because these motherfuckers won't. You know?

7:54Ronnie Karam: And it's also a better point because everybody has a problem with this, right? So when she does it, it, like, actually makes sense. It's just, oh, well, guess what? You missed the apology Okay I had it earlier Apparently Erica Missed the apology So I'm going to do it again I apologize Coyle Erica Megan Whoever that is

8:18Ben Mandelker: It's not landing Suiting It's not landing However loud you talk I'm going to talk louder Which is a lie Because I actually don't talk louder But because your apologies Don't fucking land And it's not just me Everyone's irritated They're not going to tell you Let's go down the line And you can all speak up Okay, well, who wants to say something? Don't be cowardly lions. I'm not cowardly. I've been late, too. I'm often late. Sometimes I've been like clock. So, I mean, time is just a human construct, if you really think about it, right? So, I'm late somewhere, I'm sure. I should be somewhere right now.

8:50Ronnie Karam: And everyone's just looking at her like, why? You know, this is why, Erica, this didn't land for me as well. I mean, I loved watching her get mad, but I'm like, why? Why do we have to? Everyone's just looking at them like, I'm not going to yell at somebody at dinner about being late. This is so weird. And Sutton says her thing. She's like, well, you know, I'm not very concerned about Dorit's behavior. I mean, you know, the buying of the bag. I mean, okay. The being late. Okay. I mean, it kind of feels like divorce behavior. Okay. You know, slashing your husband's tires, you know, calling the Pope and saying, well, when are you going to take away his last name?

9:23Ronnie Karam: Motherfucker. You know, things like that. I mean, being late can be annoying, but it's not like the Pope just showed at your house and turned you into a brown overnight. you know what I mean so I'm just not concerned I mean should I be yes and I think uh you should

9:36Ben Mandelker: be concerned and I need Sutton Strack to come back because Sutton Strack would be like she is disrespecting my time and I don't know what sort of fleets he does that because that's what Sutton would normally do I think that maybe all this talk about like erraticness is getting her scared because truly the only person who's most erratic on this cast is Sutton and she has been for a long time so I think she's just trying to be like I'm just gonna I'm just gonna just uh be a tattoo right now. I'll be David myself.

10:00Ronnie Karam: Well, Sutton's also got a better fight going, right? She's trying to produce a different fight, which Kyle is also in on, but she's trying to produce the fight that Amanda should be coming for Dorit. So Amanda, she wants Amanda to have this dinner to come for Dorit for looking her up and chat GPT-ing her ass and all of that stuff, but that didn't really work. So she's just like, well, damn it, I've been trying to orchestrate a different fight, and I just don't know that the time fight is really as strong as my original fight, which is, quote, lady, goes crazy on Dorit. I mean, that would have been more fun, right?

10:32Ben Mandelker: So Rachel goes, I've said it to Dorit's face that she's late, and like, I don't do late. Like, she's going through a fucking time, though. And Erika's like, yeah, we're all going through a fucking time, Rachel. The whole table's going through a fucking time. I agree. Just do it. Well, Erika, you're going through a fucking time, really? She's like, are you kidding me? Yeah, what the fuck do you think it is? My husband went to prison. The fuck are you talking about? I'm going to trial. What are your kids? Well, your kids are divorced. We're not going to do the pain thing, okay? The pain Olympics airing on NBC summer 2028.

11:06Ben Mandelker: I'm sorry. I'm obligated if you say the Olympics to announce that on the cock.

11:10Ronnie Karam: Yeah, you know what? Everybody hurts sometimes. Thank you.

11:16Ben Mandelker: Oh, thanks, Leryl. Thanks, Rachel. It's like, well, I didn't know you were going through a fucking time. It's like, well, I haven't. Well, you haven't shared what you're going through. We're going through a fucking hard time.

11:27Ronnie Karam: Oh, no, I actually share with my therapist who actually gives a shit. Then how am I supposed to know, Erika? I give a shit. I'm your friend. It's like, oh, now you do. Now that you're raising your voice because you need to show everybody that's good.

11:41Ben Mandelker: Well, you raised your voice a hell of a lot sooner than I did.

11:44Ronnie Karam: And don't ever tell me to shut up again, Dorit. Don't ever fucking tell me to shut up again. When did I say that? Today. And don't put your hand on my face. Do not do that, Dorit. Do not put your hand in my face. I'm like, well, you're pointing in hers. What the hell? I love when Erica gets so mad. It always just makes me laugh. We have a flashback. Yeah. Do not put your hand in my face, Dorit.

12:12Ben Mandelker: We have a flashback earlier in the ghost town where Dorit was like, Erica, I'm not doing this, this interjecting debate. So Dorit's like, you know what? When I said you need to work and you need to contribute, I didn't mean you have to be a cut fitness. And then a band is like, oh my God, you guys. Amanda, who thought wimp was like the worst word she was going to hear this season.

12:34Ronnie Karam: Please don't call her a cut fitness in my restaurant that I'm eating in. And so Tilly just drinks. Tilly doesn't care. She's just drinking her wine, watching it like, this is boring. So Boz and Rachel are muttering. They're like, oh Jesus, I'm dead. I'm literally, I literally died. It's time for a commercial. It's time for a Crappens commercial.

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14:50Ben Mandelker: Dorit, I'm the one that brought the word

14:52Ronnie Karam: Cut Fitness into the group You're late, you stole the word Cut Fitness from me

14:58Ben Mandelker: I love that, I love that She's like, I'm taking ownership of that word Because Dorit uses it a lot, especially in this episode

15:05Ronnie Karam: I have a feeling that Dorit has been using that word for a long time I mean, Dorit is British, so it's possible Erica's like, I stole that from the gay people Before you stole it from the Brits, bitch

15:18Ben Mandelker: Guess what? I can be a cut fitness if I wanted to read What are you, a pussy cat? What are you, a puss? She's like, I'm me, me too And I don't need to be a cut fitness, Erica Well, don't, because you're an asshole You're an asshole, and you're a cut fitness

15:36Ronnie Karam: Rachel at the end of the table Is just like, oh my god Like, I really saved that word for like Special occasions

15:43Ben Mandelker: Wow, do you think this is good for you? Do you think this is good for you? Between last season of the season, you think this is a good look for you? I don't operate from that place, Erika. I operate from a place of being fucking real. I'm honest and I'm sharing. And if you're going through a fucking time, tell me. Because I want to be there for you. So why are you wearing your plate as a hat? Hashtag erratic.

16:04Ronnie Karam: Well, it's all over the news street. It's all over the news street. And you say you don't know. Well, it's all over the news. Since when do you read? You're the one who was like, Erika's stuff? what i can't read that article it's too long can someone just tell me what it said

16:20Ben Mandelker: so dorit is basically like look she tells us like i know about all this stuff because it's in the tabloids but erica doesn't actually tell me about it yeah because this whole season started with

16:32Ronnie Karam: erica dating a new guy they all had to find out from a tabloid and dorit said well why didn't you tell me and she said well i'm not comfortable sharing it with everybody at the table and i I would only share it with Kyle. And then Sutton was like, yeah, that includes you. Remember all this? So it's funny that Erica's like, oh, really? Really? Really? You're being secretive? You did the same thing? You fucking hypocrite.

16:57Ben Mandelker: So Erica's like, you're not going to win this round, Doreen. With the, oh, it's all about me, about divorce. And she's like, well, why are you taking it that way? I'm not saying I deserve a medal for having a shitty time, although I would accept one. Do you think this is a fucking competition? She's like, no, but you're putting us all through it. And yeah, I think you do. You're louder than everybody else.

17:19Ronnie Karam: Okay, really, honey? Really? Let's do a playback. A rewind, if you will. I'm getting up from the table, and I'm doing it because I'm very angry with you, but also I just really want to have a cigarette in the parking lot.

17:32Ben Mandelker: Oh, so you're leaving now? Oh, oh, oh, hell yes. So she... I twist on an old favorite. Hell yes, not hell no.

17:44Ronnie Karam: So she gets up and walks off, and Amanda's, like, rolling her eyes. And Erica goes, why? Why are you leaving? She goes, because, Erica, if there's anything I've taken away from my super-ooshin, it's that I pick and choose who I want to be with, and I don't have time for shot like this. I don't look it.

18:01Ben Mandelker: Oh, so you lay everybody out. But then, when it's just you and I, you decide to walk away.

18:07Ronnie Karam: Oh, really, Erica? I'll think again, sweet

18:11Ben Mandelker: You'll think again You're the one walking off, I'm still here By the way, hilarious that the both of them are telling each other to think about something, I'm like, that's not happening anytime soon We don't see a lot of thinking on this show

18:22Ronnie Karam: I like that Erica was losing her shit during this, and Doris just staying calm like, what the fuck is wrong with you? And she gets up and walks off, and she just leaves and she goes, weirdos

18:35Ben Mandelker: Weirdo is like, it's so funny like, weirdo is kind of like a word that's seems so benign but people really weaponize it like i've seen it a lot like yo you're being a

18:43Ronnie Karam: weirdo and you're like how could you say that about me um so it became super it became super offensive last year or something or like two years ago because politically somebody said you're weird like a politician i forget which side like if it was republican or democrat but someone became a thing to call donald trump weird and yeah and they were like you're weird and then the trumpies were like you're but these people are weird and they're how dare you and so weird became this like hugely offensive word again so funny humans are so stupid honestly i know so amelia goes no that's not

19:15Ben Mandelker: productive she's like so you'll get her so then they're like yeah go get her because she's probably not gonna listen by the way i also enjoyed jennifer in the middle of all this was like you know the word the word cut fitness is it's actually quite common in england i don't think it has lands the same exact way, but just so you know.

19:33Ronnie Karam: And then when they go, should I go get Dorit? She goes, well, otherwise we'll be squished into two cars. She's a car taker. Someone go get her.

19:44Ben Mandelker: So then Kyle is like, Kyle is so mad, and then she picks up this T-bone steak that's in front of her, and she goes, well, when the fucking Fred Flintstone is this in front of my face? Put this over here, please.

20:01Ben Mandelker: in the middle of the fight someone decided to pass down like a florentine steak to kyle

20:05Ronnie Karam: a giant plate of meat right in front of her so uh jennifer takes it of course she's like that was delicious actually kyle did you mean that that you don't want to be friends with her well that is not being a friend bows but did you mean it what she's doing to me is not fair and i'm sick

20:23Ben Mandelker: So Kathy goes up to Dorit and she's like, I'm good. You know, you know, you know, I just I just I'm not gonna sit at a table with a bunch of assholes. I'm not gonna do that. But you guys love each other and I'm the wealthiest person here. You should really be listening to me right now.

20:37Ronnie Karam: I don't love anyone, nor do I trust anyone. Nor will I continue to give as a friend to people that behave like dude.

20:47Ben Mandelker: So Dorit.

20:48Ronnie Karam: by the way, Kathy's going to get it for this following Dorit out. Oh, Kyle's not going to like that.

20:54Ben Mandelker: Well, I think they all told her to go. I think Kyle was, I think Kyle co-signed it because they're like, okay, bring her back. So Erica is, uh, now Erica's sort of like doing her cry thing, um, where she just like clenches her mouth together, but tears come out and Kyle's like, I mean, it's always me that she's going to focus on and pick on and I'm not going to fucking do that. I'm like, Erica's literally crying over there because she is the one who actually just received the wrath of Dorit a little bit. Although actually i shouldn't say that erica was giving the wrath but the point is like i was like it's always me when erica's the one who just got into the fight with dorit so rage is like i think you guys need like a real pause like really for real like something i would never say about moisturizer

21:33Ronnie Karam: you need a pause yeah and you know what this might be superficial but she looks hot as and And Boaz is like, not now. Like, but still. Just saying. Rachel, not now.

21:46Ben Mandelker: So Erica's like, I'm okay. I'm okay.

21:49Ronnie Karam: Oh, God, Erica. Give me a fucking break. You couldn't cry when you found out. You're confronted with the fire burn victims and orphans. And you had a deadpan look at your face and went, I never heard any of this. But this is going to make you cry. Get the fuck out of here with your bad acting. So then Dorita's outside continuing with Kathy. and she's like, I'm used to Koyal talking behind my back and not taking my side and not being a goist girl. But Yuki, I thought I could count on Yiruka, but I guess for her, it's more important to be in Koyal's good gruces than to be a friend to me, and that is what hurts me the most.

22:28Ben Mandelker: These two have protected me and helped me, and we three are very tight, and I don't like that they're fighting, and I don't like the scene to read in this space, and I get that she's going And they're like wiping her tears. And she's like, I hate this. I don't give up my heart or friendship easily or any details of my personal life or who I'm friends with or who I'm dating or really anything about me. But you get to see Mikey. And I care for Dorit, but I don't know where our friendship stands and I never felt this angry by her before.

22:59Ronnie Karam: So outside, Kathy's like, oh, you know, these are people that you're, I mean, close with, you know, and it's going to be, you know, it's going to be easier to walk out than to walk back in. I'll tell you that much.

23:13Ben Mandelker: Oh, I don't plan to, Kathy. I'm not at a place in my life where I'm going to sit from someone at a dinner that I care about, who I've been there for, who I've fucking run to in the middle of the night if she needed me just to be spoken like that. You bet your ass I'm fucking walking away and walking in several circles and up and down and climbing up a wall if possible. You really are a bit erratic, aren't you? Don't you dare say that about me. I'm not erratic.

23:35Ronnie Karam: You bet your reason I'm walking away No fucking way The days of me sitting there Grimming and boring it Swallowing and taking it Running it and walking it Swimming it and diving it They're over They're over

23:53Ben Mandelker: So she's like walking away And we see like a little cigarette Like the smoke billowing out from in front of her Like this isn't healthy for any of us She's definitely stressed But you can't push people out who you trust the most I want to be there for her, but she has to listen. No one here wants to hurt her. Oh, God.

24:11Ronnie Karam: So Kathy's like, I'm sorry you feel so alone to read. She's like, it's okay. I would rather be alone than be around a bunch of fucking good fitnesses.

24:21Ben Mandelker: Coil's whole mission was to get everyone in the group to turn against me to somehow make herself feel better. Well, you got your wish. I hope you sleep good tonight. And yes, I am comfortable with using bad grammar. So then she walks off.

24:38Ben Mandelker: She gives like a slow clap. Oh, I thought that was the soft PK happy birthday laugh. And then Kyle. Happy birthday to you. Happy me. Happy birthday to you. Happy me. Happy birthday to you.

25:01Ronnie Karam: Happy birthday to you.

25:06Ben Mandelker: That soft clap at the end.

25:08Ronnie Karam: Our group came to Italy with some minor cracks, but now we have big fractures and some broken friendships. I don't even know how we return to Beverly Hills like this. What will they do? At the international check-in, will they even let us back? Time will tell. Time will tell.

25:24Ben Mandelker: This is an update. I figured out how we do go back to Beverly Hills by airplane. So Rachel's like, I've learned that you never know what, what to expect from this group. And like, I've never expected that we'd become to this beautiful, magical place that I want to live in every summer instead of being with these women and end up in absolute tears. Hot girl summer's been destroyed. Hot girl summer.

25:50Ronnie Karam: So now girl summer, it's not dead girl summer. Cause I'm dead. So now we go back to Beverly Hills and Jennifer – or no, I guess everybody's packing and stuff to go back. And Sutton is squeezing into the glass elevator, rolling her suitcase onto the car, calling the polar bear Ari and slapping it in the face and telling us to watch its goddamn mouth when it's out in public. And Sutton's like, well, I thought this trip would be healing. Bring us closer together. And it has done the exact opposite. Opposite is what I meant. It's splintered. I don't know if it can be recovered.

26:25Ben Mandelker: So now I love every, I love every real housewife or everyone on Bravo who always says this at the end of a tumultuous group trip. Like I thought we were going to be healed by this trip and come together. When in the history of Bravo or reality TV has a group trip ever healed anything. It is specifically designed for you all to be at each other's necks by the end of it every single time. And then they're like, Oh, I thought we'd be healed and come closer to as a group. It's like that literally has never, ever happened. Yeah.

26:57Ronnie Karam: Well, let's see how Dorit's book is coming. And by that, I mean the cover. So she's doing the photo shoot and she's wearing crazy clothes. I don't know, shoulder pads. They're really in right now. I would suggest not going with something so trendy as a book cover. I mean, not that you'd expect this to last longer than two weeks anyway on any kind of book stand.

27:16Ben Mandelker: but jeez she's she's like sitting there like sort of like a squatted down and like looking like like i mean business it sort of looks like she's posing for like a learning annex you know head

27:28Ronnie Karam: shot and so he's like i need a facelift if this book doesn't represent if this cover doesn't represent the book i'm gonna lose my mind it does represent the book it's a complete fucking mess

27:40Ben Mandelker: that makes no sense. She does give us a peek into the process. She goes, I've learned that a lot of people release the cover of their book before the book is even finished, just to increase the excitement around the book. You mean marketing materials? I never even knew those things existed.

27:57Ronnie Karam: Isn't that interesting? It's the same thing that your friend Amanda does. What do we got that idea? Wow. She got that from me.

28:06Ben Mandelker: All this time when a book is coming out, I always just assumed there was a big question mark on Amazon until it suddenly hit to the shelves. They released the cover early.

28:17Ronnie Karam: Book covers are a big thing in The Bravo World right now because Heather Gay was called out for stealing her book cover for her newest book. She wrote a fiction book. And it sounds like it's already – it sounds kind of like it's going to be a ripoff of that Demi Moore movie. The Substance. the substance, which then became a rip-off that Ryan Murphy show called The Beauty, or whatever that was. So anyway, she stole a book cover. There was another book, and the author came out. She's like, oh yeah, it's not much for girl power, bitch. Steal my book cover. And then everyone online's like, that's not stolen.

28:50Ronnie Karam: That's just a stock image. She's allowed to. I stand with Heather Gay.

28:56Ben Mandelker: I am, I just did a search, and I see it is very, very similar. But yeah, if it is a stock image, that's hilarious. Yeah, it's very big.

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30:20Ronnie Karam: So now we go to Bo's and she's talking to Rachel. And they're talking about how, God, Italy was supposed to be great, but then it wasn't great. and Dorit is there. She's like, well, when you hear a whole group of people, it's talking behind your back. Oh, no, this is at the book party. I'm sorry. The book thing. We're still in the same scene. So the girls come over. They're like, oh, my God, this is amazing. What is this for a book that people read? Did you learn how to spell things? How is this happening? What's going on here?

30:50Ben Mandelker: We are going to release a thing called a photo that you release ahead of time so people know that there is something called a book that is following. I'm very excited for the process.

30:59Ronnie Karam: books get cooled so they come with covers and this one will have my face on it what do you think of that revolutionary you know there's not a lot of oh sorry go ahead Ben

31:12Ben Mandelker: no no please I think that you should express how I'm feeling in this moment I'm extremely bored

31:19Ronnie Karam: and if there's not safety and protection within a expressed concern then it feels like an accusation and I think that that's why you feel upset Yes, it's gossip. It's gossip. So Bose tells us that the difference between what she does and what Kyle does with Dorit is that she offers feedback without judgment. But Kyle offers feedback and a lot of judgment. And then we throw in your trigger words like erratic and manic, and it makes the person less receptive.

31:49Ben Mandelker: Yeah. Where I struggle with the whole situation is that I don't want to be grouped into the all, like the we all. because like i'm an actual celebrity and you guys are like not so like i can't really be in the same all all you know what i'm saying i'm just like visiting here okay like i live in the hamptons

32:09Ronnie Karam: with xander basically yeah you know where i'm struggling with this is like i'm trying to listen to them but then i just keep seeing this white light and people are like come towards the light come towards the light and i'm like no i don't want to i'm dead and then i realized i was the

32:24Ben Mandelker: light all along. So, so Dorit's like, but you're also not going around to everyone else. The group's saying how frustrated you are with me because I'm late all the time. It's different because Kyle was bringing those accusations to other people and those discussions and even putting it in people's heads. And she basically like, yeah, like, you know, she, you know, like Dorit says, like, I've had no issues with Erica except for the very first year and never had an issue until this year. and basically saying it was Kyle who has poisoned Erica.

32:57Ronnie Karam: Yeah, and she says that Erica's been riding the fence between her and Kyle since last year. Like, she would tell me that Kyle texting PK was wrong, but she wouldn't say it to Kyle's face. And so Italy showed me where Erica's loyalty is, with Coyle. So she's like, you know, I just want you guys because you're my friends and you're richer. And Rachel's like, yeah, but on a light note, you guys, I'm not walking towards it. And here's the thing. Like, I hate my birthday. You know what I like? my death day, which is every day. And you know what? Like my birthday is like the end of summer and the beginning of the new year.

33:28Ronnie Karam: So I want to have a party celebrating that. Okay. Let's just do that. Let's just do that. Let's not even say it's my birthday, even though it's my birthday. Like, I don't want it to be like my birthday. Okay. So don't sing happy birthday. Don't bring me birthday presents. Birthday, birthday, birthday. Okay. It's my birthday. I'll see you in my birthday.

33:44Ben Mandelker: I'm going to make a shirt that has your face on it and says, I'm here for Rachel. It's like, oh my God, like literally dead. I will not like, but that's actually kind of a genius. You could be like the cmo of like rachel zo exactly cm fucking oh but i can't afford this bitch though oh my god hilarious so now we go to by the way i think at one point the producer said like how old are you turning and she was like or maybe that was a little bit later and she's like what are we doing like no like what like what are we doing so we go to a place called magoo's and it's this cool spot with shoes and stuff that the kids love.

34:26Ben Mandelker: It's like a teenage boy shop. Yeah, but everything probably costs like$5 ,000, but it's like, you get teenage boys.

34:31Ronnie Karam: So yeah, communication with my kids is everything. And especially with Sky Sky, since it's hard to pull things out of him. So I have to check on him. So how are things with that? He's like, not good, not bad. Just fine. Okay. You forgot to tell me not to go crazy. No drinking ever. No drugs. No vaping ever. No vaping. Okay. Do you still like your dad? Yeah. Are you sure? Yeah. Isn't he an asshole? Well, don't say that. You shouldn't say he's an asshole. He's an asshole, right? Was she there? What's she like? She an asshole. Okay. Glad we had this talk. No e-bikes. By the way, enjoy your internship here.

35:11Ben Mandelker: I worked at Nine West at the Short Hills Mall.

35:14Ronnie Karam: Yeah, they got an internship for her. my mom just got my niece an internship as a barista. Well, it's not really an internship. It's a job. But it's funny because it's like this place that my mom goes to all the time. And I just think it's funny that my niece is like, oh, my God, this is so cool. Now I have a job as a barista. I'm like, making things for your grandmother. Good luck with that. She's going to be like, this is wrong. Do it again. She's going to be your worst, like, army. She's going to be like, drop and give me 20.

35:46Ben Mandelker: do it again yeah sky's gonna be a barista intern he's gonna like hold the sweet and low um so now we go over to mountain olympus house um and this is uh we're looking at we're looking at houses for bows and keely and so they look at this house it's really nice because they're gonna start a new family together and and boz is like the first time keely left me alone in this house i'm sure he's trying to establish trust me and i took that to another level because i went through every single thing i went through every single medicine cabinet every single hair plug and i found nothing i'm pretty sure he doesn't know that i did that but you know keely has reassured me that regardless of baby or not he wants us to live together and i want our lives to come together so here we are looking at a house with leil this house is ugly eh what do you think it was fine it's like it's a generic house in the hills you know it was fine didn't really

36:44Ronnie Karam: stay with my cute i hope she doesn't get it so uh they look at the house it's really exciting and then we go to rachel she's getting her house decorated for the rachel studio 54 birthday bash and she's like oh my god in my mind i live at studio 54 it's like where i was born where i'll die it's like where i'll stay it's like purgatory 54 i'm staying here forever i fucking love it everybody here's dead it's the only place I can party where everybody else is dead too

37:15Ben Mandelker: for someone who proclaims that she's dead all the time she also quite often says that she's living somewhere she's like oh my god Studio 54 I live here now Europe I just I live here I live here Hamptons I live here like every place is like I live here now this is where I want to live I live here now

37:31Ronnie Karam: I live here I die here like everyone here at Studio 54 is dead and Liza Minnelli keeps pounding on the doors and we're like it's not your time lisa it's not your time

37:43Ben Mandelker: so uh caius is cute he has like a little uh little ipad and he is basically running the guest the guest list and what i like is that people in la are so used to um up and coming young stars and starlets working at in the service industry that no one seems to have a moment like oh hi No one goes like, this is so cute. Your kid is running the door. They just assume like this is a real hired person to man security.

38:12Ronnie Karam: Did I ask LA child labor? It's how we roll. Okay. It's Nepo child labor. It works. So the producer is like, so Rachel, how old are you turning? It's like, oh my God, are you okay? Like I'm fucking 37. Okay. Forever. Like I don't believe in age. Age is like just a number. It's just like a number. Are you okay? are you okay that's how we know that's how we know how long to wait for milk to turn into cheese for

38:38Ben Mandelker: example you know yeah so we go over to erica's house and she is seated for glam and she's getting into her studio 54 and she's like wow sex sex drugs cocaine yeah and then bo's is getting everyone's getting ready everyone's doing their glam and people start arriving and um amanda is like, hi, my name's Amanda Francis, party of one, please. This is like, you know I'm a kid, right? You're supposed to do the whole, like, oh, you're so cute. I'm not sure if I follow.

39:12Ronnie Karam: So everybody comes in. They're like, Erica Daines, see me or not, see me right now, you dumb little fucker. I'll get you fired. He's like, oh, I'm just a little boy. So Kyle comes and she's like, I'm not entering this party thinking like, oh, this would be wonderful opportunity to like try and fix things with Dorit like no I'm here for Rachel.

39:33Ben Mandelker: And Bose is like well well Dorit how are you feeling about tonight? She's like well the first day of school they called me and said Phoenix was having anxiety it's a big transition. Well it's a big deal they've been homeschooled for five years five years so she was crying when I picked her up saying she doesn't fit in and maybe she's not ready and they that took it out of me so tonight is the proverbial cherry on the sundae. You mean getting to go to a really cool party at a celebrity's house is hard for you right now?

40:01Ronnie Karam: Getting bitched at by Quill. I might as well go to Jenga and that little girl who won't stop calling me. So Rachel and chat, Rachel and Eric are chatting near Caius, and Rachel's telling him, Kai Kai, oh my God, doesn't she look so gorgeous, Kai Kai, Erica? And he's like, yeah, I really like your hair. It reminds me of like Dolly Parton. She's like, oh, thank you, babe. I love her, you know, we're both singers.

40:28Ben Mandelker: That's great. I was going for Studio 54, but I guess I hit Grand Ole Opry. So, okay, someone's getting fired tonight.

40:38Ronnie Karam: So, Erica's like, what is that, Manchego? And Rachel goes, yeah, Manchego's a vibe.

40:47Ben Mandelker: And it's a vibe. Like, I'm dead. Manchego, I'm like, dead. Like, get me some tapa, and I'm dead. We call this cheese Deadchego. so Dorit and Bo's arrive and Kyle's like awkward I'm like there's nothing awkward they just walked in the room like literally nothing awkward has happened

41:03Ronnie Karam: nothing's happening to Kyle but she's like I'm being attacked I'm being attacked awkward you're the one being awkward and she goes oh and look it's her infamous Kelly bag

41:13Ben Mandelker: it's only infamous to you no one cares about the Kelly bag because everyone has these bags well Italy was intense and I've had a difficult last few days and the last thing I need right now it's a deal with kyle and her gang of minions first it was amanda then sutton and now even erica is falling in line and what an absolute disappointment like yeah but you know you were part of that for like seven years just so you know be careful of the monster you create

41:37Ronnie Karam: because it can turn around smack you god that's right soon so rachel's like oh my god i'm so happy my girls are here what could be bad what could be bad what could be it's not the season finale guys we're gonna have to wait you know what i don't even know what could happen tonight

41:56Ben Mandelker: like it could be like a big love fest or like a fight in vegas but instead of a boxing ring it's a dance floor with a disco ball like i'm dead are you guys are you okay like this is insane right now i live here now i live in a disco ball so guess what next week is not even

42:13Ronnie Karam: In the finale, it's the penultimate episode. So, it's two more episodes. Wow. I'll be like, yeah, but like, everybody's saying, everybody's saying, everybody's saying.

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