#3314 Summer House S10E11: The Summer I Turned Shi**y

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2:31Ronnie Karam: Well, hello and welcome to Watch What Crappens. I'm Ronnie. That's Ben. Hello, Ben. How are you, my little love?

2:40Ben Mandelker: Well, I'm fired up. I'm fired up right now. You may think, am I fired up about Summer House? Sort of. I'm fired up about the future of this country because Summer House alum, Luke Branson, is running for office. What in the world? Really? What office? He's probably running to an office. He's like, guys, I am running to get an office suite in the industrial complex down the street. No, he's running for Congress, I think. It's a campaign video. and it's honestly a really good campaign video. It's basically him playing hockey. He's like, hey, everyone, I'm from Minnesota. I believe in honest wages, hot dishes, and living a good quality of life.

3:29Ben Mandelker: And why are we throwing money at a war when we can't even take care of getting food on the table for our people? And it's like this -

3:36Ronnie Karam: I don't even ask for much. Just some Fritos and some eggs thrown into a dish with some cheese on top of it. I mean, geez, can't even afford that. What are we doing as a country?

3:45Ben Mandelker: My promise to the American people is that no one will go without maple syrup any longer.

3:53Ronnie Karam: Here's what I stand for. I stand for wood being chopped by hot people. Okay. I'm sick of ugly people wood being chopped. Who wants to burn a fire in the winter when their wood has been chopped by an ugly person?

4:06Ben Mandelker: If you think that he was not chopping wood in his commercial, you would be wrong. because he definitely chops wood in the car as well. Does he like forge rings? He's not forging rings. He's on his motorcycle. He's like, I'm a hockey coach. I'm a wood chopper and I'm an actor. He's like, yeah, I've done reality TV and that was drama for sure. But you know what? Now I'm here to create drama in Washington. but i have to say there's like it's just luke speaking kind of plainly and directly and i i think it's actually remarkably effective considering you know what it is he's just like hey people can't afford their groceries we're spending money in a foreign war i don't like seeing what the ice agents are doing we can't do any of this stuff i'm running for office because i want to fix things for people and it's just like it's so it's like one of those movies where just like the local guy decides to run for office and he's going to do it.

5:08Ben Mandelker: I was like, I was, I, I, maybe it's just cause he's hot, but I was like,

5:12Ronnie Karam: this is, I mean, that helps. That's why Jesus has so many followers. I mean, I don't even know what he was talking about. I just looked at his abs and he gave you bread and wine, you know, carbs and booze. I mean, that guy really, if you ever want to run a campaign, just look how Jesus did it. Feed people carbs while you don't eat carbs yourself and just have great abs and long flowing hair.

5:32Ben Mandelker: I just want Luke to get into Congress. And then when someone comes at him, he can just point his finger and do, I don't like you. I don't like you.

5:46Ronnie Karam: Well, yeah. Wow. That's crazy. Also, the country is like really going crazy over this West and Amanda stuff. They're following them around everywhere. Like TMZ is like, oh, my God, look, it's West. and it's West just like in some stupid leather baseball cap sweating all over the place, staring at his phone in traffic. I'm like, West isn't even presentable on TV. Can you at least tell West that you're taking his picture so he can pose? Because I don't want to look at that. I need less sloppy tabloid fodder, you know? I need Luke. Can Luke just play West in this situation? I would love that, actually.

6:21Ronnie Karam: I vote for Luke to play West in this situation. At least we can get a boner from it.

6:26Ben Mandelker: luke the original thorn in sierra's side um yeah yeah it all comes back doesn't it look at this

6:34Ronnie Karam: full circle circle here we are back to sierra crying and luke is now going to be a congressman

6:44Ben Mandelker: yikes i will say this was a cringy episode of summer house in the sense of like knowing what we know this is one of those ones where we're saying oh gosh oh gosh oh this is not aging well this this scene is not aging well oh that commentary is not aging well oh sierra don't comfort amanda like that it's not going to be worth it in the end no no yeah all right let's

7:06Ronnie Karam: get into it season 10 episode 11 viva los hamptons of course jesse would throw a las vegas party you are not michael buble you are not getting a vegas residency stop it get your music out my ears get it out okay yeah like an ear booger get it out you're not even an earworm you're an ear booger i'm just always trying to get you out my finger is too big for this in the in the words of jojo

7:34Ben Mandelker: get out um so we're still at the golf range where we just saw a flashback to luke last week it was almost like he's like guys the the campaign ground is set okay i'm back on tv let's we got to get me we got to make this announcement as soon as possible he just showed me on summer house last

7:52Ronnie Karam: week we gotta do it here's what i say to the powers that be you want a piece of me you want a piece of me they could just show us a clip from the batting cage just like yo yeah come at me big man. Come at me.

8:06Ben Mandelker: So, yeah, we're at the South Hampton Gulf Range. I like to call it South Hampton. Yeah, I'm a South Hampton. I like it because they have great ice creams here. Particularly they're soft serve. It's also how I describe my tennis game. Soft serve. So, they are all playing and everything. And so Ben's sitting with Amanda, because he's pulled Amanda. Ben who I really can't stand. And he's like, listen, I just want to squash this, even though I was the one who had the issue, but I'm just going to squash it because you know what? Sabrina, the love of my life, as declared from 48 hours ago, she's just really been upset ever since she talked to you.

8:47Ben Mandelker: She was like, um, I'm sure. I mean, I didn't really think about what the weight of my words were. I just wasn't thinking at all. And I'm normally really good about thinking about the consequences of my actions and how it's going to affect other people on this cast. And I guess somehow I just forgot this time. And it was the end of the night. We'd all been drinking and I just was chatting away and she was honestly creeping me the fuck out. So I thought I'd give her a pushback by reminding her that you liked me first. Okay. Is that what you wanted to hear, Ben?

9:17Ronnie Karam: She's doing that thing where she opens her eyes really wide when she's in trouble. She's like, what? I don't know. And he's like, well, this is a girl that I like, you know, and I'm falling in love with her and I'm putting all this effort, in and that's who I want to be with. Oh my God, you've put effort in for one week. Shut up. And Amanda's like, well, I don't even know what's happening here. I mean, I don't understand what's going on. Like this girl just showed up and we're all supposed to be like, I'm sorry, that was my line. All right, let's just pretend I finished a model shoot. You see, you can't stop stealing my lines, Amanda.

9:50Ronnie Karam: She's like, yeah. And we're supposed to be like, wow, welcome. Welcome, new girl. No, this man has been so fucking single all summer and he showed up single and he's been acting single and then this girl comes back into his life and he's like amanda i'm falling in love how dare you oh no you know what it's like how dare you i'm married how dare you sir oh okay so now ben is flirting with you and he has been flirting with you the whole time and now you're offended because you're married because i think just a few weeks ago you're like what is everybody talking about flirting right So we were at a wedding together in Italy Big deal, there's no flirting in that Sorry for going to a wedding Now she's like, this pig has been flirting with me the whole time

10:35Ben Mandelker: Yeah, well you know what Honestly, I'm on her side with this Because quite frankly She was protecting him This is what we were about to discover last time And then he's now Going to be kind of a dick Although only half protecting Because she said this thing to Sabrina I was going to say, where's the protecting coming in? Well, but like you know she probably was i'm assuming she tried to make a joke that did not land properly uh when she when she said that to sabrina like i really don't see amanda saying to sabrina yeah ben likes me you know but i can see her making the joke of course the thing is that all of amanda's jokes sort of do sound like that and she is kind of cutting and she does she is kind of the truth

11:13Ronnie Karam: and jest poster child yeah well last week i was kind of last week i was on the fence i mean i I was like, well, how could she have said this? Maybe she meant it like, you know, he's told her everything in the house. He's gossiped with her about every little thing. So he probably told her about the fight with Bailey, where Bailey said that he wanted to fuck me or whatever. So I guess I should make a joke of that and make it light with him. So, you know, I can see that side of it. But now that she's like, oh, really? Well, he's been flirting with me the whole time. And he did want to fuck me in Italy, which he says later.

11:48Ronnie Karam: And I'm like, oh, okay. So maybe she was just being, maybe she did see it as like a new girl's coming in. So now she's going to be like jealous of this new girl, you know? New evidence. There's been new evidence today.

12:00Ben Mandelker: New evidence. I can see it as that. I can also see it as her saying, hey, I like you. This is my non-confrontational way, wrapped up in a joke way of saying, you should probably double check what's going on with Ben because you're talking a lot about how much you like him and like he's not being totally honest with you, right? like and i'm gonna say it sort of in this jokey way um and then ben gets mad at her so she's like you know what fuck it i'm not gonna protect you any longer because i'm about to tell america really what happened last summer so that's kind of how i i sort of i took it well ben is doing

12:32Ronnie Karam: his thing where he gets the apology that he wants but then he just keeps going and to mad that seems to be his thing especially with the women because it's now we saw him do this with bailey and now he's doing it with amanda where he's like well because you know look i'm positive and I'll give lots of compliments, you know, and I know that you've been a bit down and it's been tricky since the start of the summer and everything. And, you know, I like to make people feel good and I didn't want to like cross over, you know, because it just, it just keeps coming up. So I just need to know why this keeps coming up because you clearly want to fuck Amanda.

13:04Ronnie Karam: That's why it keeps coming up. And you're the one that's bringing it up. And everyone can see it now. Yeah.

13:09Ben Mandelker: And you're the one dwelling on it. And so Amanda, now Amanda says, no, this man wanted to fuck me in Italy. There's a whole group chat about it. And his friends, you know, had to be like, she has a husband. Did I play into it? Maybe, because he doesn't like a little attention. But like, do not turn this around on me. I get that you're like in love now, but do not act like I'm the one. So first of all, justice for Bailey, as everyone's been saying since this clip emerged. Huge justice for Bailey, because Ben really was so mean to Bailey about this. When like now it's actually acknowledged that he was trying to sleep with Amanda.

13:45Ben Mandelker: So justice for Bailey, big time. Justice for Levi, just for someone who was supposed to be on the show and has been edited out of it. And then, yeah, and fuck this guy. I mean, it's bad when in the middle of Amanda's scandal, you can make, in my mind, Amanda look like the victim. So, yeah, you really fucked up.

14:01Ronnie Karam: I don't think Amanda looks necessarily like a victim. I mean, what do you mean she looks like a victim? How about this?

14:07Ben Mandelker: Make me more Team Amanda in a situation.

14:10Ronnie Karam: Yeah, I'm definitely not Team Amanda on this. But, you know, Ben is still a jackass. You know, Amanda being a jackass doesn't mean that Ben's not a jackass. I think that Ben is clearly a jackass. I think it makes Amanda worse because Amanda's been kind of gaslighting Kyle. Like, what? What are you talking about? There's not even anything there. We're just totally friends. What are you thinking? I mean, there was nothing happening. There was nothing going on. Now she's like, yeah, he was trying to fuck me to the point there was a whole group chat. And now he's on Summer House, you know, flirting with me again all summer.

14:41Ben Mandelker: so i just see ben as like coming at amanda kind of hard and sort of and just like i do think that she was protecting him and uh i think that he was i think this is the second time now he has sort of

14:58Ronnie Karam: cornered a woman in the house and like protecting him from what i don't understand the protecting him thing i'm not trying to be argumentative by the way i'm just i'm just trying to understand

15:08Ben Mandelker: because when bailey made the joke about well we all know that you want to sleep with amanda she did not say he really does you know she like she helps sort of sweep that be like oh that was a lot bailey or whatever like she did not she could have told everyone you know like actually been like there was this moment with ben like i i think that she could have she could have helped bailey out in that moment she could have said ben but like why are you getting mad at bailey because you know it's true like she could have had that but she didn't and yeah but she said she was

15:40Ronnie Karam: flirting back with him so she was playing back into it because she liked the attention so i don't really think she would have had a leg to stand on it's like yeah we were acting like we wanted to fuck in italy who cares but she could have still said like there was a group text about it been in italy like you can't act you can't be like acting like this is a totally out of the blue

16:01Ben Mandelker: thing that Bailey picked up on. So I think that she just sort of, I think she did him like a little bit of a favor there by not dragging him into any sort of mess. And yes, it was a little self-serving, but I think that, yeah, so that's why I think that she sort of protected him in that situation.

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17:51Ronnie Karam: So Amanda's saying, well, look, first of all, I'm upset because a listener reminded me that I said a long time ago that I thought Amanda was going to dump Kyle for Craig. And I do remember thinking that, that she had like some energy with Craig. So I'm mad that I'm wrong because have you read that Craig is rumored to be with Kelsey Ballerini? That that's - Oh my God. Is that true? I have trouble believing that.

18:14Ben Mandelker: It did, or did someone from like, did someone not like a, like a tiktoker seen an old episode of Southern Charm and think it was like a current paparazzi photo

18:22Ronnie Karam: or something like that? You never know. You never know. But that's the latest rumor. So anyway, Amanda's like, but you know what like i'd love to talk to sabrina too and apologize because the last thing i wanted to do is make her feel like any sort of way or to spiral or get upset with you amanda you just said on national tv that man was trying to fuck you so stop it stop trying that's the problem with amanda she'll say whatever she needs to say to your face to make you feel better but then the second you walk away she's like he was trying to fuck me the whole time yeah and by the way

18:53Ben Mandelker: when she later quote unquote apologizes to sabrina it's like a terrible apology terrible terrible i was like oh you're not even apologizing really but i'm just saying in this situation with ben i think that ben is just aggro with the women and i don't like it and i will i'm defending amanda on this case in this situation given even though i know she is largely um very flawed these days is very flawed. Very, very flawed. Not doing great. So he's like,

19:23Ronnie Karam: well, you know, it would be nice if you apologize because she's coming tomorrow. And I think that would be really nice. Like, really? Okay, now you go to apologize to Kyle for trying to fuck his wife and then coming into the summer house and flirting with her again and then everybody gaslighting Kyle.

19:39Ben Mandelker: Now you go. Maybe you should. Go ahead. Or maybe you should apologize for meddling with Carl and Kyle's friendship. That's going to ultimately now cause a fight at the end of the season. How about that? so um now they are back at the house and they're just like happy and kj is like i'm mixed in key and uh they're all sort of settling in and getting into the like can we play a game

20:02Ronnie Karam: bailey stop stop bailey i'm trying to like you bailey like i'm mostly on your side bailey but come on with the game and she's like not spin the bottle i promise i'll never play that game again it forced me to flirt i'm so uncomfortable with flirting so um then amanda is now a sierra's room and um she's like oh my god i have such anxiety sabrina told ben that i told her that ben was in love with me and sierra's like yeah i know i've already talked to her about it talked about it in

20:33Ben Mandelker: the car yeah and we see a flashback of that car ride where ben was talking about it and then amanda's like i just don't remember saying anything about he's in love with me or whatever Like, I don't recall saying that at all. Like, I'd love to just talk to her about it and just, like, apologize. Like, I don't know. That conversation just made me feel icky. So then Carl's like, hey, Kyle, you gonna go out? You gonna go out? It's like, yeah, man. No, I'm gonna go to bed in, like, 30 minutes. Whoa. You're not gonna be in the mix? Are you saying I'm more in the mix than you are, Kyle? Whoa.

21:07Ronnie Karam: I'm making an advert towards Amanda because Amanda finally agreed to go to group therapy with me. So like, yeah, I'm going to go to bed early. You know, forget July. Forget my birthday. All I want to do is focus on us and enjoying our last two weekends of summer. So meanwhile, everyone's getting showered and ready to go out. And he's going to put on a little t-shee and hattie.

21:30Ben Mandelker: I was like, oh, I hate that.

21:34Ronnie Karam: You know, what's so funny is everyone's like recent hatred of West. I just find so hilarious because I've always hated West. And it's just, it's kind of nice to have people on my side, but it's also like you guys were all so late to dinner. I ate all the chips myself. Like I've already, I've already tasted this guacamole. Like I need a different dish. I need something else to hate now. And you guys are just like starting to taste it for the first time. Yeah. Get me a new dish.

22:01Ben Mandelker: That's how, that's what I will be saying to the McBee Dynasty fans in probably about two years. west is like i was like it's just anything that i hated before ron i don't think so

22:15Ronnie Karam: i love that you're just never gonna let them the mcduck dynasty the mcvee dynasty go you're just never gonna let that go and how can you it's gonna be on for the next 30 years of

22:25Ben Mandelker: your life listen everyone loves a poorly produced highly scripted show about growing soybeans so um West is like, okay, guys, it's the boys in there. Unless Bailey wants to put some fucking pants on. I'm a boy. So they all go out. West is like playing with Bailey's hair. And Jesse is like, Bailey's like, I haven't had my hair pulled like that in a while, right? I'm just me. I'm a musician.

22:56Ronnie Karam: I just want to be me. It's like, yeah, I haven't had my hair pulled like that, but don't not do that. and so they're talking about what they're going to wear and stuff and then kj goes by sierra's room and she uh she's like oh my god are you wearing west pants he goes yeah they are west pants

23:17Ben Mandelker: yeah um there's a lot of talk about getting in pants and getting to go out summer house um yeah yeah exactly so uh they're all getting just all getting ready and jesse drops a condom at one point and Wes is like, Whoa, are you like flexing? And Sierra's like, are you joking? Jesse, are you fucking kidding? Like, what are you doing with that? He's like, what? It was in West pants. Like Sierra's like, Oh, I know it wasn't West because it was like a magnum.

23:48Ronnie Karam: So they're going out so much. Jesse is wearing West pants and West has a condom in his pants. Okay. So another, it's just another, it's another West moment. Gee, let's, let's talk about how much we're in love with West again. Can't wait.

24:02Ben Mandelker: Yeah. Well, it's either Jesse is lying and they're his pants and there's a condom in it, in which case he's lying to basically this girl that I forgot about that he mentions later in the episode that he's like really into. So he's planning to have sex with someone that's not that girl probably, or they are West pants, in which case West is full of bullshit with how much he's talking about how he's just like in love with sierra yada yada yada so that's what's going on with that we know the answer so then uh

24:28Ronnie Karam: everyone but kyle and bailey uh and amanda are going out and ben is calling sabrina in his room he's like oh i mean you can keep on you can sleep on fucking anything there's like two green pillows here there's bigger white pillows you're a pillow snob because sabrina's one of those people like i'm bringing my own pillow like i'm telling you like if i'm coming there i'm gonna bring my own pillow again. He's like, oh my God, you're such a pillow snob. This is the first time I've ever gone to bed and not gone out with him. It's like so loud. It's crazy. But now it's me and you who've known each other for five minutes.

24:59Ronnie Karam: I'm so in love. I'm staying home for you. It's like, oh my God, it's me.

25:03Ben Mandelker: Yeah, he is basically constructing a new image for himself, which is the dutiful boyfriend. So everyone goes out and Ben's like, you know, it's been a long time, about six years since I've been in a relationship, but I definitely feel like I'm ready to be all in with Teddy Mellencamp. So I want to be on my A game, which means I'm not going out tonight. I'm going to go and try and get a good night's sleep for the first time. I'm like, you're not playing in the World Series tomorrow. Sabrina's coming over and she's so happy to be on TV. You could literally be passed out with your head chopped off of your body, rolling around on the floor.

25:37Ben Mandelker: And she would be like, oh my God, Ben, you're so great. Anyway, Sierra, where's Sierra? I'm your best friend.

25:44Ronnie Karam: So everyone goes out, but then it's 1.20 and Carl comes in. He's like, oh, this is me. Coming home early because I'm Carl. But then five minutes later, everybody else comes in anyway.

25:52Ben Mandelker: This is my impersonation of Summer House. Okay. Oh my God, are you going out tonight? I'm going out. I'm going out tonight. You're going out. I'm going out. Are you wearing jeans? Is there a condom in your jeans? Oh my God, this is great. You guys are like, you got to come out. You got to come out. I'm going to stay in. I'm going to stay in. Really? I'm going to stay in too. Okay, we're going to go out. We're going to get ready to go out. Okay, Ubers are here.

26:12Ben Mandelker: That's over.

26:13Ronnie Karam: It's all over.

26:19Ronnie Karam: Yeah, pretty much. So Mia sees a bug on the door. It's like, oh, my God, it's a bug. And then everyone's like, oh, my God, it's a bug. And then KJ swats the bug so it flies in the house and they scream because it's a bug. And so he kills the bug. And I felt bad for the bug. Is that weird? Like, what? What did the bug do? Just leave the bug alone. Why'd you have to murder something?

26:38Ben Mandelker: Yeah. don't build a beautiful house and then be upset that a bug wants to get a tour called architectural

26:44Ronnie Karam: digest it's like architectural digest the bug was just trying the bug was just trying to be a part of this cast by trying to get the door open he's like oh can't this door is still stuck they're like no we fixed the door you're just a bug you're very weak that was last season you don't have the

26:59Ben Mandelker: strength uh dara is like well that was traumatizing i'm like really because you're the one who's the bully of the house. That's right. Bully love. And then Jesse comes in. Everyone comes in. Everyone's showing up. And Kyle is, of course, flopping around in the bed because he can't sleep because everyone's being noisy, which is funny because you are usually the primary producer of noise late at night in this house.

27:23Ronnie Karam: Yeah, so West and Sierra are in the kitchen and like talking closely, you know, like I'm like, Jesse comes in. He's like, hey, I just want to be me. What's going on in here? Who are you guys up to? Wes is like, we're just making nachos. And he's like, sick. You know, I feel like I've seen this movie before. You know, Sherry's still attracted to her. But, like, I don't think Wes is ready for a real relationship. You know, he's going to be looking like Kyle Cook by the time he's ready to settle down. So, yeah, I think it would be good for them to have a boundary. But clearly, that's not going to work.

28:02Ronnie Karam: Why do you care?

28:04Ben Mandelker: Yeah, it's not going to work. And yeah, West is going to still be doing this when he is 46 years old. That's for sure. So people are going to bed. Everyone's heading to bed. And KJ is charging his phone in case he wants to know what he's doing right now. And there's like this little moment where Sierra like looks out the door of her bedroom. And West looks out the door. They sort of like exchange a glance. And we're meant to think like, oh, it's cute. They're rekindling. The spark is coming back. but even without the scandal happening in the real world this is going to go south very quickly

28:38Ronnie Karam: on this episode yes i mean even yeah even before the scandal i'm screaming no in my house stop it close your goddamn door sierra don't make me fucking come over there so she's looking and then he looks out and then she goes into her room and then she comes back and looks out again to see if he's looking but he's not he's he's already walked away and that if that's not a sign for how it's just all going you know like you okay okay bye good night you hang up no you hang up no you hang up no you hang up no you hang up oh my god he hung up why didn't hang up well the hell he was supposed to give me at least three more like you hang up then we're supposed to fall on the fall asleep together on the phone but no he just walked right away after the first one.

29:27Ronnie Karam: It's not your man. Yeah. That's not a, you always have to let the girl hang up.

29:32Ben Mandelker: Can't be the boy. So it's the next morning con Amanda were talking about how loud it was and Mia's in CR's room and she had a really bad dream because she had a dream about her mom and her, and her mom was like, she was trying to get her mom to hang out with her, but her mom has recently passed away. And she was saying how it's really hard because like you wake up from the dream and you realize it was all a dream and it was kind of a really heartbreaking moment so uh sierra comforts her because sierra if nothing else on the show is always a supportive friend to everyone who needs

30:03Ronnie Karam: support amanda anyway it was a nice scene yeah so um then we see a flashback of me having lunch with lindsey and talking about um getting married and have a family and she doesn't want her kids to see their dad every three weeks just because he's off opening a business you're gonna need to find a new man telling you that right yeah he's always gonna be doing that i'm sorry but that's yeah

30:30Ben Mandelker: that's it's not a great trajectory again the track record of people married to restauranteurs on bravo is really i think it's like zero percent success rate man it's not that restauranteurs

30:44Ronnie Karam: should never get married you know they should get married to people like me who don't want them in the house three weeks out of four. You know, there's people like us out there who are like, I like you, but I only like you like five minutes a month. So can we make that happen? And also I like when you bring me food from restaurants in brown paper boxes. Yeah. It's kind of fun. Yeah. It's hot. Boner. Sorry. Can we take a break? Just kidding. Okay. So Mia wants to see a medium and Sierra's like, I know a girl. wasn't this the show that page and hannah yeah it was because it was page and hannah they got a medium to say wasn't it that like lindsey's boyfriend was cheating or something yeah hannah was like guys i don't know if you heard i spoke to a medium and the medium said that lindsey is like an old hag i don't know she just said it she just said it do not trust the mediums on this show she'll be like you want to see your mother okay your mother is coming through lindsey's a slut and she's cheated on Stravi.

31:45Ronnie Karam: Just saying. Like, wait a minute. Yeah.

31:51Ben Mandelker: The medium just walked up to me on the street and said, there's a girl in your share house named Lindsay and she's ratchet. So. Ratchet. I play tennis. Tennis.

32:04Ronnie Karam: So Mia is talking about seeing the medium. Okay, so then we go into the kitchen. Everybody's getting ready for the day and talking about last night. And oh my God, Sabrina's coming. And Ben's like, oh my God, she's on the way. She's on the way. Maybe she'll be here at one. Will she bring a pillow? Will she not? God, I can't wait to marry that woman.

32:21Ben Mandelker: Yeah, very, very, he's very, very excited. West is like, you know who we haven't seen in like fucking hours? It's a fucking Ben's bitch ass, right? Yeah, I haven't seen him in like a full day. He's like, yeah, I like, I don't like think I've even like talked to him. It's like, yeah, his girlfriend's going to call him today. oh my god is that like why he like stayed in and stuff yeah oh i'll kill him yeah he's changed since he met sabrina i love these two talking about people moving too fast and changing with other women when that's literally all these two do is jesse falling in love with lexi last season and wes changing his persona when he is around sierra and on tv yeah he's like you do just

33:04Ronnie Karam: changed since meeting sabrina your name is sabrina okay i mean how long have they even known each other. Yeah, it's like a few months, you know, four months maybe. And then they stop, you know, dating June-ish before the summer. Like, anyway, you know, they get coffee. They think about a series of events here. Coffee. Lindsay's housewarming party. Coffee. You know, they haven't separated. You know, they're like kissing each other at the housewarming. He's like, ooh, PDAing? Ooh. He's like, yeah. And everyone's like, they're rekindling. You know, it's a lot. They're sitting there gossiping about this guy.

33:34Ronnie Karam: And so, it's just two idiots. Two idiots gossiping. So they can't wait to meet this girl. So outside, Amanda's on a beach chair, and Kyle's like, excuse me, is that seat taken? She's like, I guess it is now, Ghana.

33:50Ben Mandelker: Hey, everyone. Let me tell you about the party today. We're going to have a Vegas-style pool party in the backyard. And in true Jesse Solomon fashion, the setup will be extremely minimal. So basically, it's a pool party with, like, a float. Honestly, I'm not even upset at him about this because the parties are so ridiculous. Why not just have a pool party? So they have, they're going to put together a really shitty looking Vegas party that looks nothing like Vegas. And it is nice to not have the Amazon wigs.

34:18Ronnie Karam: I'll say exactly.

34:20Ben Mandelker: I mean, he basically hires some people. He hires like fake staff members from Republic to walk around with like the sign and sparklers and hand out drinks. But that's essentially it.

34:31Ronnie Karam: I thought for sure he was going to hire a bunch of children to be in the pool to like squirt out water from their mouths and act like the Bellagio fountain so Jesse could sing his stupid music to the river.

34:42Ben Mandelker: I thought he was, maybe he was going to have that, what's his name? Bo Burnham or something? Have the guy come up with a puppet. I thought he was going to squash a watermelon. Maybe they'll have an F1 race in the backyard to be like, sorry, I know you came to Vegas, but we're going to make it really annoying for everyone who comes to Vegas by having this random race car, racetrack here.

35:02Ronnie Karam: Guys, I'm sorry, there would be more catering here, but Bruno Mars owes me a lot of money.

35:12Ben Mandelker: so um they're like hey jesse um west sits on amanda now this is funny queens of bravo clocked this i believe on twitter that when west sits on amanda don't forget that two weeks ago or three weeks ago sierra said the way you can tell that west likes you is if he sits on you. Here it is. Here we go. Here it is, everyone. Yeah, so he's sitting on her

35:40Ronnie Karam: and she's like, stop farting on me, you sicko. Girls will set up, what are you going to just be escorts or something? And Bailey's like, that's what I do every day. Good luck with the manual labor. So Carl and Ben bring out the floor of the Floating Cabana and they start putting that stuff together. Super fun. Super fun. So where's Levi, by the way has levi just have they just fired levi nobody's told us because

36:09Ben Mandelker: yeah she's they've clearly pushed her out of the cast because now we have dara and sabrina auditioning to be on the show so levi's just gone which i don't like this poor woman took a bruise on the face from the goat to be on this show and you just sort of unceremoniously dump her back in

36:25Ronnie Karam: manhattan please listen we told you you had to make out with somebody to stay on the show we should have specified that it wasn't with goats those don't count make out with the people

36:37Ben Mandelker: shows i bet she would have gone out that one night instead of stayed in with bailey if she knew that her time was was limited on on summer house because that that one time where she was she got dressed up to go out she was finally going to be like hanging out with the crew and bailey's like that was mad to me it was mean to me i'm gonna stay in bed she's like well I guess I gotta stay in

36:55Ronnie Karam: and that was it so Amanda's asking Bailey while they get dressed she's like oh my god I was golfing last night I saw you were chatting with Carl she's like oh my god he gave me cute golf lessons he was so cute like I was like really bad but like he stood with me the whole time and he barely golfed himself because he was teaching me how to golf and I was like could you teach me how to flirt that would be something okay I'm not buying this Bailey likes Carl thing every year they bring on somebody and it's like a rite of passage where they're like, okay, listen, why do we still have Carl? Nobody really knows.

37:28Ronnie Karam: We feel kind of bad for the guy. He's kind of nice. Please flirt with him. Please pretend you're going to have some kind of relationship with Carl because it's happened so many times and I've never, ever believed it.

37:39Ben Mandelker: Carl has basically turned into the guy in those movies where someone from the city gets lost in the country and then stops at a farm and Carl comes out to the porch and he's like, oh, yeah, you need to go three miles down that way. Like, that's just who Carl is now. I just don't think Bailey's interested in that. The directions guy on a farm? It's crazy. He is.

38:00Ronnie Karam: Or he's like, he's like in overalls at an old-timey gas station.

38:05Ben Mandelker: Like, oh. He's like wiping down a wrench. He's like, whoa, if you're looking for Jupiter Hollow, it's down that way, but you're not going to be able to be there. It's chewing on a toothpick.

38:17Ronnie Karam: Going to the meeting. Mm-hmm.

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39:31Ronnie Karam: So she's like, yeah, I just finally, I find myself constantly moving myself towards him, even when I'm not consciously doing it. Like when I'm in the city with a camera crew leaning up against a wall, being like, hello, Carl, this is me, Bailey. Would you like to meet up and help me flirt?

39:48Ben Mandelker: Hey, I know you're saying you're constantly moving yourself towards me, but I just want you to know I am training for a marathon. So you actually may just be standing still and I'm just like running towards you because I'm training a lot. Yeah.

39:58Ronnie Karam: So do you have fanny flutter? She's like, I don't. What is that? She's like, you know, a fanny flutter. Like, you know, like it's where you like your fanny. I don't know. I saw it on Love Island. She's like, okay. Well, I don't know what that is, but yes, I guess so. It's like when you have a tingle. She's like, yes. I do need to poop. But like, I mean, Fanny Flutter. It's like, okay, like here's the thing. I'm really into Carl. I do not buy this. Bailey, I think it seems, first of all, very comfortable on camera. She's got a lot of charisma. She's beautiful. I mean, I like Bailey for the most part, but she seems very like, okay, I'm going to be on the show and this is what I have to do.

40:36Ronnie Karam: And she's going through the motions. But the thing that's so funny is most people who do that just seem so desperate. And Bailey already seems so bored with it all. she's just like all right like i'll have this scene with carl like she's sitting with carl at the restaurant like uh-huh uh-huh oh wow look at us flirting she just looks so completely bored with it all but she's doing it anyway and you know i respect the hustle you know and i actually

41:00Ben Mandelker: think that bailey is in that like annoying pendulum swing that unfortunately people wind up in if they've been in a toxic relationship which is that you know after a toxic relationship you said yourself this time I'm going to date someone who's nice, even though they're not normally my type. My, my normal type is toxic. So I'm not going to go through my normal instincts. I'm going to go with the nice guy. So she is now trying to make Carl happen for herself. Even though she has clearly no interest whatsoever, but she's just telling herself she needs a nice guy. And Carl is presenting as nice these days.

41:31Ben Mandelker: So I think she's trying to, she's trying to convince herself that this is good for her. This is what she likes. He's nice. He smiles. He's sweet to her. But I think, honestly, she is not feeling it.

41:45Ronnie Karam: Yeah. So Amanda's saying, you know, like on paper, is he working? Because Carl needs a nice girl who's a little weird. And she needs like a sensitive guy who's thoughtful and caring. I mean, they're just like so cute. Yeah. But it's a typical Carl relationship. Because Bailey's like, you know, like I want him to ask me out. Because like I've asked him every time we've hung out. And it would be nice if he made an effort. Carl is not going to make an effort. I don't know why Carl just doesn't come out as asexual and just leave it alone. You know, I mean, I like having sex. I don't think I would be considered ace, but because I do like the sex part.

42:23Ronnie Karam: But what are single people called? Just people who want to be single forever. I identify as my auntie Lulu, you know, because that's how she was. So I identify as Lulu. But I don't know what the term is. But Carl just needs to admit it. I don't know if Carl is asexual.

42:39Ben Mandelker: I think he's just not interested in Bailey. And I think that he's like, oh, I shouldn't like Bailey. So let me like Bailey. He like, listen, Bailey, if you want to get Carl in the bed, you got to start learning some magic tricks. Okay. Did you not learn anything from Lil? Okay.

42:54Ronnie Karam: Well, that's the thing. I mean, if you look back at Carl's history, okay, he was with, he started, he dated Lil for a second. And then he's like, oh, the minute I talk to her, I realized like actually spent more than five minutes with her. No, I can't do it. And then before that was Lindsay and Lindsay was like, this guy hasn't fucked me in years. And then before that was Paige, right? Wasn't it like Paige he was trying to pretend to be interested in? He would never call her, you know, except on he would just see her on the weekends or whatever. Wednesday lunch date. What is the thing about that?

43:25Ronnie Karam: Because a commenter keeps telling us that it wasn't Wednesdays, that he would only see her on the weekend and we're making her crazy that we keep hounding that it's a Wednesday lunch date. Was her thing that he wouldn't see her on the weekend? Or he wouldn't see her on the Wednesday?

43:38Ben Mandelker: It was like a Wednesday waffle. It was a daytime date. It was a daytime date, and Paige was like, ew, grass.

43:48Ronnie Karam: So then, yeah, and then before that was like the twins who he was never into. He just never really seems into anybody, you know? And I think that's okay. You know, maybe you don't need a parade for it, but just stop wasting everyone's time.

43:59Ben Mandelker: well i i think i also could see that carl is now become very very self-conscious about his image and he even says so and he earlier in the season he's like whoa when i was having like sex with a lot of people they're like oh i'm a fuck boy but now i'm like trying to be like slow and now people are like what's wrong with you so i think he's like he's just in his head about how people see him he says so he says so that he has a hard time talking to kyle because he's like worried how people will see him and yada yada yada and he was shitty when he was using and so he doesn't want to be seen as shitty again and i think the next step for carl is he's got to just like get the fuck over that stuff he's got to get into therapy so i'm i believe he's in therapy he's got to do more therapy and work on that because it's just like he's just seems so stuck and every we always talk about how fragile everyone is with carl like he's so fragile all the time and like it's like oh well maybe you should go up to Carl.

44:57Ben Mandelker: Cause he, maybe, he, maybe he needs that. He's such a nice guy. It's like, Oh my God. Like we need to like, give this guy a little, he needs to just sort of get out of this, this phase of just everyone needs kid gloves around Carl. Even when talking about Carl, I know we're just, we're podcasters and we're catty and cutting and all that stuff. But even I'm like, Oh my God, if Carl hears this, he's going to do something to himself. Like what's going to happen is he's going to start drinking again. He's going to be like, Oh, people are talking about me. It's like, you always have to worry. What about Carl?

45:27Ben Mandelker: What about Carl? What about Carl? And we don't say this, but anyone else who's gone through what he's gone through.

45:33Ronnie Karam: Yeah. Carl's. Yeah. They need to de infantilize. Yeah. Carl's situation. How do you de infantilize? Is that a word? Is there a stop? I can't go to. That works for me. So she's like, yeah, she's like, I need him to ask me out sometimes. And Amanda's like, I know, but maybe he wants to be wanted for once, you know? Oh, for Christ's sake. The man is six foot four and hot and on TV. Like, you cannot possibly give a man any more than that, okay? You've got the starter pack. I'm not feeling for you anymore. I can't take it.

46:06Ben Mandelker: Yeah, watch seasons one and two and the way the Workus twins, or one of the work, Lauren Workus, was sort of like goo-goo-garga over him. He has been wanted. He has been wanted by a lot of people.

46:17Ronnie Karam: So that's really not an issue. Yeah, and Bailey's like, well, I want to be wanted. And Amanda says, yeah, but, I mean, he always has to do the chasing. you know she's like well i guess you're saying we're like two wounded animals that are too scared to come out of our quarters oh just yeah but like he loves communication so maybe like communicate where you're at like how you're feeling that'll go a long way

46:40Ben Mandelker: carl's entire storyline for literally this episode is i don't know how to communicate

46:46Ronnie Karam: so now they're setting up for the party and uh ben's like oh my god sabrina's here And he runs out. That's Carl's voice. But he runs out there to get Sabrina. Because, you know, she's a girl. A girl in a car. And would she drive all the way to the Hamptons? Because she gets out of the passenger seat. Did she take an Uber all the way to the Hamptons? Because she gets out of the passenger seat.

47:07Ben Mandelker: Maybe. Why am I worrying about people's Uber bills? But still, I'm like, what? She probably took the Jitney and then took an Uber from the Jitney stop.

47:16Ronnie Karam: Oh, okay.

47:17Ben Mandelker: But we knew she was arriving because you could hear outside. It's just like on TV.

47:28Ronnie Karam: So he goes out to get her and he's like, oh, my God, I love you. Oh, my God, it's you. So Amanda says, I should pull her aside immediately, right, you guys? Like, 100, get her right now. Get her before she even sits down. Go apologize to poor Sabrina. Poor, poor Sabrina.

47:48Ben Mandelker: Well, look at you, Sabrina. You are gorgeous today. Perfect. You ready? Are you ready to throw some punches or what? You excited to look like the best couple in this house? She's like, oh my God, it's beautiful. It's here. Here's my room. I love this. Oh my God, we're on the first floor. We're in the mix, like Carl says on the show. How did you already know? The show hasn't even aired yet. I just know. I get to see the screeners. It's amazing.

48:13Ronnie Karam: Did you, I'm trying to find it here. There was a post that she made and she's like, oh my God, you guys. And it was like a Bronwyn Newport style post where you write on the picture and it's like 10 pages. It's like so long. It wasn't 10 pages, but it was really long to where the font's really small. And it's all written in like wedding invitation font. So you have to really scrunch your eyes to read it. But it's like, oh my God, you guys, like everyone's calling me a fan of the show. But like, I've like never even seen it. Like what's a TV, right? Like I don't even know. What? I've never seen a TV before.

48:46Ronnie Karam: Like I've never seen the TV show before. You guys stop it.

48:49Ben Mandelker: she actually uh specifically says i don't even watch tv except for reruns of entourage i'm like okay lady you can leave our but that says you can leave the bravo at first now you are

49:01Ronnie Karam: courtly uninvited from bravo com but that also kind of says it all doesn't it's like the most her show is just about like hangers on in hollywood it's um like just it does that's exactly

49:13Ben Mandelker: correct but it's also like mortifying that that she went on a public platform and said the only television show i watch are reruns of entourage yeah but you know like i like

49:27Ronnie Karam: conversations like i have with people like i'm like a real person and i come from like a real place where i like don't really like get to know real people and like i hate robots like i'm not into them but like you know what's real is my relationship with sierra does she happen to be the most popular person in America right now? Sure. Is it a coincidence? Of course. I love her. She's my spirit sister. I mean, it went on and on. Who's falling for this? I mean, Sierra. Sierra, but

49:59Ben Mandelker: Sierra's picker, you know. Sierra is down. So Sierra's like, oh my God, look who it is. And Mia's like, okay, hi, take your time to shine. So West is like, oh my God, there she is. and he's like texting and just he's like it's like this is west he's texting oh my god i've heard so much about you west you are so cute oh my god you're the best like yeah um does this look like vegas to you no not at all it sort of looks like ari's office and on to rush it's my only

50:34Ronnie Karam: frame of reference i apologize just is like we're glad you're here oh my god you're the turtle of the group. I love you. You're so great. Like, I've never been called the turtle of the group before, but I do have an album out. Okay, okay. Kenna and Ben's offering to get her a drink and stuff, and so he goes to get her some water. And meanwhile, she's saying, hi to Dara, and she's like, oh my god, those are nails. Oh my god, look at Sierra. Sierra, look at your nails. Oh my god, fuck yeah, these are incredible. But like, oh my god, you should be savage with them. How do you, like, do stuff with them?

51:10Ronnie Karam: She's like, I don't. Oh my God. Oh, I love that answer. Somebody doesn't do something with their nails. Oh my God. I love you so much. We've signed my bra.

51:19Ben Mandelker: This is for every bitch who said, I don't make friends easily. Cause apparently I do. All right. I met Sabrina at the housewarming and then she invited me to coffee and I had a free day and I said, okay. And she's adorable. I don't know. She feels like so completely opposite from me, you know, low standards, very excitable, probably not going anywhere with her career. and I just think that that's why I'm so attracted to her in that friendship way because she says everything she's thinking and I say nothing that I'm thinking. For instance, one thing that I thought when we had coffee was, who the fuck is this bitch?

51:52Ben Mandelker: Anyway, we're friends now.

51:54Ronnie Karam: Oh, Sierra. Sierra has so many good instincts but she does not have the instinct that lets her know that people are using her for clap. She just doesn't have that, you know? And she's saddled with two of them in this episode. She's got West and this girl.

52:08Ben Mandelker: she definitely has the instinct to um no one some there's a there's a crazy gay man near her as evidenced by the fact that when i saw her walking in the bellagio at during bravo con and i thought she was a friend of mine and i said i was like oh my god hi hi and she looked at me like who the fuck are you i was like it's me it's ben and she goes she just looks at me like oh my god crazy gay man coming up to me and then i go and then i realized it was sierra and not my friend And I go, oh, never mind, never mind, never mind. That was really awkward. That was really awkward for all parties involved.

52:39Ben Mandelker: I thought you meant Sabrina. I was like, God, she already made it to BravoCon? Damn. I'm like already friends with Sabrina. No, Sierra. I thought Sierra was my friend. And I really embarrassed myself.

52:53Ronnie Karam: So Amanda sees her and she's like, oh, my God, can we go inside and talk? Because I want to chat with you for a second and then you can get dressed. I would rather talk to you not in a bathing suit. And she's like, okay, yeah. Like, I didn't know it was going to be this hot. So, like, let's go inside. And the producer asked Sierra if this chick talked about Amanda at coffee. And Sierra's like, yes, good. It was a bad introduction, but they'll be okay.

53:22Ben Mandelker: So, yeah. So, they go into this room. And Amanda and Sabrina sit down. And Amanda's like, how are you? And Sabrina's like, I'm good. I'm so good. Wow, so many cameras. She goes, yeah, okay, well, I just want to apologize to you for the other night at Lindsay's. I feel so bad for catching you off guard. I'm like, what? Catching her off guard? Sabrina's like, yeah. It's like, yeah, I just, it wasn't my intention to information to share. And so I shouldn't have been talking about it at all. And I just want to say I'm so sorry. And I felt so bad for sharing the information that Ben wants to fuck me.

54:00Ben Mandelker: I shouldn't have said it. What is she doing?

54:03Ronnie Karam: This is so stupid. Like, this is crazy. This is so low what she's doing. She's like, I'm not going to apologize for saying Ben wanted to fuck me and making a joke. I'm sorry I shouldn't have made that joke. She's like, yeah, Ben doesn't want to fuck me, but it wasn't. Ben does want me, but it wasn't my. I shouldn't have been the one to tell you. Ben should have been the one to tell you that he wants to fuck me. What is wrong with you? This is so shitty. i did laugh though because syphrine is like yeah well um yeah i appreciate that because like i've been thinking about it quite a bit you know and like i wear my heart on my sleeve and like i try to uplift everyone around me and like i instantly connected to you i mean i don't ask autographs of people that i don't really like instantly want to be best friends with yeah like i really uplift

54:56Ben Mandelker: everyone. I bought a movie ticket for Medellin. It's not even a real movie. It was just the movie Inside Entourage. But I did that because I support. So I think at the end, I was just like, whoa, what just happened? It was just like a bit bizarre, you know? I'm like, not that kind of person to hold on to stuff. And I'd rather build some good memories. So I don't have that perception of you. Honestly, don't sweat it. I'm just happy to be here on TV.

55:19Ronnie Karam: And Amanda's like, oh, it's okay, because honestly, it's been making me sick that your boyfriend's been wanting to fuck me this

55:25Ben Mandelker: whole time oh i know i know i know i know look i would know if you weren't coming from a good place and i would know and i would probably be savage but you are coming from a good place and that place is tv and you've welcomed me into that place so thank you well i appreciate you accepting

55:43Ronnie Karam: my apology and like being able to move forward yeah yeah and you just have to promise that we're going to have so much fun all summer. It always makes us both feel good that Ben is staring at us the whole time. You know, I'm feeling a little under the weather, so I can't over-promise and under-deliver, but I'm going to do my best to have fun. Oh, so

56:09Ben Mandelker: you're going to get me sick on my first weekend on TV, so thanks.

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