#3322 RHOA S17E03: The Butt of The Joke

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0:58for six months. Shop now at Pura.com. What's up, crap, crap, crap, crap, crap, crap, crap, crap, crap happens. Watch what crap is. Watch what crap is. Who cares what happens when there's so much that crap is? Who cares what crap is? Oh, I mean, don't be crap. Who cares what happens when there's so much that crap is? Well, hello and welcome to Watch What Crapins. I'm Ben Mandelker, and joining me today is the very pink-hooded Ronnie Karin. How are you, Ronnie?

1:35Ronnie Karam: Well, hello. I'm okay. I went and got some Botox, and I was like, give it to me severe, because the middle of my face is still always moving, like my little angry 11s. Look what she did to my face. I look like I've been split down the middle of my forehead. I look like I've got the Satan insignia. What the hell? Did you do that? Did you do that today? No. After work on Friday, I went. And I still look crazy. I've looked crazy all weekend. I don't know if that's ever going to go away. It's not really moving, though. But, I mean, jeez, you have to slice me open, like gut me like a fish? Jeez. I never would have noticed if you didn't point it out.

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3:08Ronnie Karam: Real Housewives of Atlanta Season 17 episode 3 Rum ruptures and redemption Ruptures Wow So, K. Michelle, where we last... I'm like, wow, that's pretty visceral. Where we last left the show... What are they going to call it? Exploding asses and rum. B-B-B-L... B-B-L-P. No, I don't even remember what I named this episode. I called it something. I was going to call it Everything's Going to Be Okay, Michelle, but But I think the last time I named it, I called it. I did another okay pun. I think I called it. It's not right, but it's okay, Michelle. I'm just going to do a lot of okay puns. When they have a Western party, you can call it.

3:57Ronnie Karam: Okay, Michelle. Okay, Michelle Corral or whatever. Yeah. That wasn't under consideration. So, okay, Michelle is post-surgery for her infected BBL. And she's in the hospital bed. and she's really going through it because there's been a lot and she had to go through, there's a big surgery, infected tissue, it's very scary. And she was saying how she got, it's because she had got injections that involved silicone. Don't do this, people. Let this be a learning lesson from K. Michelle. Don't ever get illegal injections, whether it's in your butt or elsewhere. It's just not. Or illegal ones, apparently, or you're going to walk around with Satan on your forehead.

4:42Ronnie Karam: Like me today. I wish I had seen this episode before I went and did that. I was like, well, now I get the warning. Now. Never get your Botox at a taco stand. That is my advice to you guys. The lesson came a little late for me. I just realized it says Botocos, not Botox. Hi, I'm Bo. You want a taco? I'm like, sure. In my face. He's like, sure, I'll put it in your forehead. Get over here, little rascal. Cool. Rania's forehead is now filled with 2 % salsa verde. So K. Michelle is saying the hardest thing was learning that she will never get that silicone out of her body. It will be forever in her.

5:27Ronnie Karam: And she will never be fully healed. And it's sad because, you know, like no one wants, especially her, because like we really like her. She's new. She hasn't done anything to piss us off. And like we really like her. So to be like, this will never be fixed is super sad. But then I have to remember we're talking about silicone. It's like, okay, you know, it's like a housewives thing. Like, I will never be free of all the shit that I keep putting in my body. Put some more in there. Get some more in there. It's like she didn't say I'm not. She didn't say I'm stopping this forever. She just said. Shit.

6:01Ronnie Karam: This stuff is still stuck in me. What do I do? The amount of irreversible things that these people do to each other. I mean, whether it's injections, whether it's shaving things down, whether it's removing things or whether it's just, you know, you know, inflicting trauma onto each other. Like she doesn't have to, she's in good company. Okay. That's the point. Yeah. Yeah. She will, you know, she is, she's got that silicone. I wonder, is this going to be a thing that she will have to deal with the rest of her life? Is that the risk of infection because she has silicone injected into her? Do you know anything about this?

6:40Ronnie Karam: I guess. No, I don't know. The roaming silicone? I don't know. The only time I've seen it is when Yolanda thought she had whatever disease. And well, that was the chronic Lyme, which, you know, a lot of people, whatever. I don't want to get into that again all these years later. Jesus, my head will explode. But a lot of it ended up being that she had a leaky boob that she just hadn't fixed. And so there was like silicone all over the place. I mean, why are we filling ourselves with healthy things? I don't know. Can't they make fish oil into boobs? Something like if it leaks, then you just have really good skin for a while.

7:17Yeah, I just started to look up the risks of illegal silicone injections. and I'm just going to tell everyone don't do this. It's terrible. Oh my goodness. It does so many terrible things to your body because it can leak and everything. Oof. Oof. That's really bad. I hope that she's going to be okay. Oh, she'll be okay. She'll be fine.

7:47Ronnie Karam: She'll be fine. She's a trooper. She's fine. And if not, she's a country singer now. So you just write music about it. Like, my eyes. my ass is gross i mean you just write something about it you know yeah it'll never leave me it'll never leave me illegal silicone like a rock that's how hard my booty is like a rock so find a way yeah so um she's like portia been calling to me over here she sent me the nicest message and then since he sent me encouraging words to me it came by um it's really loud me just comes it's me so glad to see you kelly and samia together shut o 'clock so um now her doctor comes in and then the most important doctors come in the glam team full-on glam team in the hospital because it's real housewives and that's that's how we do yeah they and she's like no although i've been going through a lot i cannot let this help me down i'm ready to hit the ground running the full gland team is in the hospital because i don't look like i've been going through and i never will okay it's one thing to look like a struggle honey and it ain't me and it ain't in me so she's gonna look good no matter what so drew uh meanwhile we go to angela's house and drew goes over and uh drew amari is there by the way to greet her and uh angela's saying that she's uh happy that amari is staying with her and she's just gonna be staying there until she gets goes back to college and all that stuff um angela's so funny to me she's like it's so good to have her back you know such a reset after her not telling me she was married like what i know i was about to say i totally forgot about that storyline the plots on this show are so funny i know and she's like well that had to be tough she's like oh yeah yeah she's like but we're reconnecting now i'm just trying to protect her and so then we start talking about drew yeah she's acting yeah she's an actor you guys yeah she's paying the bills not all of them as we know from reading from reading the news lately yeah um the news was saying that drew is claiming to make twelve thousand dollars a month that's crazy how's that possible well maybe she has losses but maybe that's um i always forget gross and net whatever it is the smaller number it's like she maybe she she netted i don't remember i'm so sorry to the people listening that you're probably i'm not even i'm not even going to go down this path because i know i'm annoying so many people that i can't remember well gross is the big amount and net is the smaller amount, right?

10:41Ronnie Karam: Because you get a bunch of fish and then you net some of them and some of them swim away. Okay, great. So maybe she netted 12 ,000. So she makes more than 12 ,000. I think she's saying she gets 12 ,000 and that's why she can't pay her bills. But you're right. I don't know if it's net or gross. I don't know. Yeah. I don't ask. TMZ doesn't ask that. We'll have to start watching Run to make sure she gets those royalties.

11:10even though we know, even though it's been spoiled. So, but she's saying, yeah, she's just acting a lot, you know, and she's like saying, have the balance of motherhood and working. It's more, it's just more than a notion. And we see a scene with her and her kids and her daughter's crying because Drew has to go off on another shoot, which is really sad. And her son is, her son is now like growing up and he's getting big and his voice is dropped. And it's like, every time this happens on Bravo, I'm like, the time goes by so fast so anyway so angela's talking about um her foreclosures and she's

11:47Ronnie Karam: she's getting another house to try again and andrew's like angela is a serial entrepreneur she's the serial real estate guru no matter if she lost money in all of her houses and then we see a flashback to the reunion where angela's saying that she got foreclosures on all of her properties. And she was like, you know what? I'm just going to walk away. Yeah. So Angela tells us something that sounds great. She says, I lost approximately 2 million in real estate and 2 million of my own money. And I feel like I learned so much that I didn't want to stop investing in real estate. When I, when she said that, I thought she actually said, I learned so much that I want to stop investing in real estate, meaning that I learned that this was really hard and I shouldn't be doing this and I just lost$2 million.

12:36And then it became very apparent to me that no, she actually wants to go back in. And I'm like, oh, she's chasing it now. She's chasing the dragon. She wants to get that sale because...

12:47Ronnie Karam: Chasing that foreclosure high. Once you get a foreclosure, man, it becomes addictive. You want another foreclosure and another foreclosure, especially when you have foreclosures, four foreclosures at the same time. I mean, you're getting letters from so many people. It's like, wow, I miss the attention I got from all those foreclosures. People just like, Angela, Angela, can I get your signature? Angela, Angela. Everybody needed me. I need that. I need that back in my life. I know. Kyle Richards better watch out. Angela's going to start coming for her brand soon. Be like, I need to get something that's failing.

13:20Please, please give me Kyle by Shahadi. Or is Kyle by Aileen too still available?

13:28Ronnie Karam: so um if at first you don't succeed buy another house and lose it and so angela's like well this time it's going to make a profit i don't even care if it's a dollar because that is a profit yeah well i think that she learned the lesson which is don't do four flips at once just do one and so that's what she will be doing um and then we hear avon is like yelling at his xbox he's making noise up there and just says like undistinguishable so angela's like girl so what are you what are we doing for drew okay because i know we met black on the phone and drew was like oh you want to know if me and black are coupled up that's you want to make him my man my man my man well it's not he is not that we uh we're still working on getting him to wear a shirt in a restaurant so uh we're not we're not that my man my man my man space yet When we finally met Black, I was cracking up.

14:27Ronnie Karam: I'm like, yep, that's who you want raising your children right there. Black coming in shirtless to a restaurant with a big diamond BLK. I was like, are you serving the water? We need to work on our branding here, sir. So she's like, no, we're just friends. We're just friends. We're just going through things together. and uh angela's saying uh in a flashback is he a smack you on your ass friend and um drew says well he's in town and we're gonna hang out they have they're gonna have a date night but definitions like what uh drew's like what's the definition of a date is it a social or romantic appointment or engagement and angela's like oh a romantic appointment She's like, it's not romantic.

15:17And so Angela's like, who are you lying to? Okay, she's getting that D. So yeah, Drew's just trying to sell us on that. And we know it's romantic. I know, but she can't say it basically because she's going through this divorce. That's what I believe. These guys that prolong the divorces are terrible because they really get in the way of us having normal content on these shows. I mean, Kenya Moore, she basically ruined her villainous brand because she had to be on best behavior during her prolonged custody battle with Mark, right? So she had to suddenly become like a lady who lunches. And it's just like not what we want.

15:50We want, like we want, it's, I get really mad when the people on our screen are not really being themselves, aren't sharing themselves. And I get even angrier when it's because they just have to basically be on best behavior for the courts. And that drives me nuts.

16:05Ronnie Karam: That's true. But we also have to remember that Drew's just a big lie face. and she lies constantly and has always lied constantly. So it's hard to kind of listen to Drew because she's ridiculous. But not in like an offensive way. I always find her, I always find, she's just that friend who's always lying. You're like, hmm. We have a friend who's always telling us, oh, you guys, I sold a show. I just sold a show. I sold the best show. It's going to be starring me. It's going to take place here. I'm so excited. We go out, we celebrate. After about the fifth show, we never saw. I mean, at some point, your friends are going to be like, but we've never seen any of these shows.

16:44Ronnie Karam: And that has happened to us with this friend. And we still just love it because we know she's going to lie. Every time you go out with her, she's just going to tell you some crazy lie. And, like, she believes it. And she is living her best life. I mean, in her life, she's got an Oscar. She's an EGOT winner. But once in a while, her lies come true. And you're like, so you just never really know which one. It's like that psychology experiment where if the little rat hits the lever and a pellet comes out, if it knows when the pellet comes out, it never hits the lever because it just waits for the pellet.

17:20If no pellets ever come out, it never hits it. But if the pellets come out at random times, the rat just is there all day and hits the lever so that way the pellet comes out, never knowing when. Because you just never know when it's going to hit. And that's kind of like with her. It's like, wait, this one came true. And so you're like, I need to go back for more. You know?

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20:05Ronnie Karam: So now we go to Sugar Polish Nail Bar with Portia, Cynthia, Phaedra. They're all getting their nails done. Are you laughing at Sugar Polish? No, I was laughing because I was about to say something really self-deprecating. I was going to say it's like me landing a joke. You know, you never know really when it's going to happen. but once in a while it does happen it's just both of us just saying random things eventually like some combination of words will please people the amount of bullshit that falls out of my mouth any given moment i'm like gotta fill that gotta gotta fill that dead air gotta let's talk about you know what that's the thing about caterpillars i mean i'm so fucking sick of caterpillars how about oh you're gonna metamorphosize how about i'm gonna metamorphosize into having lunch later i'm like What am I saying?

20:50What am I saying?

20:53Ronnie Karam: Sugar polish. So ladies are getting mani patties. And Portia's like, since the divorce, my feet is looking ashy. And we know I can't do that because I'm dating again. So she tells us how important toes are to dating. Because you never know when they're going to propose. She goes, you know, I go quickly. I move quickly. so they um they all are they all go to this by they all i mean it's portia cynthia phadra they're getting their nails done and then cast in uh he walks k michelle in because she's like yeah i probably should recover but i need to make this money so i'm showing up for the shoot day so they are all sitting there in their private room and uh they're just getting their feet done and everything and k michelle was talking about how she has like a lot of insecurities but she now has a new love for herself that's what she's sort of gained out of going to this process with her with her bbl for her yeah i should say and so um if phaedra's like well if you stay ready you don't have to get ready so k michelle is that girl i was in the hospital in labor for 72 hours with a full face of makeup that's just how we do nobody wants to see natural they want to see naturally made up so then um they want they're checking in on k michelle they know that she had this medical issue and portia's saying like do you want to talk about it and and k michelle tells a story about how she was on that sofa and she stood up and it was wet and portia goes oh a miscarriage and then it's like this record scratch moment uh because k michelle like that's like not what she wants to hear i genuinely think that portia um on the surface at least from what we see it looked like she was genuinely trying to be like oh no you know like does that that this happened uh but k michelle does not receive it that way and she's just so it's just she's just so like flippant about everything it's like yeah it's like and then i got up and there was this the the whole seat was sweating portia's like a miscarriage she's like oh god jesus can we just get our nails done why do you have to go there jesus like let me tell the story yeah yeah so k michelle is not happy she's like i don't know if she was serious and if she's throwing shade or if she's just dumb but this is just like this this is the place for you to question me if i lost a baby there is no malfunction in my hot pocket it was one it was one with my ass and you had him with your titties she says hot pocket a lot this episode and i didn't i never knew that the vajayjay could be called a hot pocket but i'm all for it i don't know if that i wonder how the people at hot pocket feel about that though well i mean i think more people want vajayjays than hot pockets so i think that you know it can only be good for them for hot pockets right i think if this is bad for anybody it's for vaginas i'm about to say because my memory of i've not had a hot pocket in many years but my memory is heating it up in college and then being too impatient and just biting into it and always burning the corner of my mouth as the cheese was spread out always time every single time you just don't learn your lesson they burn you and then when you it finally cools down it tastes really weird anyway and then you're like what is this pepperoni this isn't pepperoni what is it and it's like a little it's like little pencil erasers yeah the bread's kind of like chewy but also too it's like too thick like really the best time to eat is one that's blazing hot that's when it has the best texture because by the time it cools down to an appropriate temperature it's like not as good and then somehow it has the nerve even though it's scaldingly hot and like will burn your face off and you'll look like freddy krueger by the time you're done eating it somehow in the center of it it has the nerve to be ice cold like how did that happen how is it what is this game of thrones a story of fire and ice why is it so frigid in the middle of this blazing hot burning my skin off Hot Pocket.

24:57Ronnie Karam: So that was Ben's experience at prom. Ben had one vagina and that's how it went. That's what turned me gay. I was like, oh, Hot Pockets are vaginas? Sign me up. Sign me up for the men. That was Ben's vagina monologue that you just got. That was, yes. So hot, then you finally get in there, it's frigid and then the cheese sucks. I'm out of here. Hot pockets. Yeah, she says hot pockets a lot. And Portia's like, well, what color was the liquid? Was it blood or clear? And she's like, well, it wasn't red, so it's not like that. And Cynthia's like, okay, just some fluid. She was just saying just some fluid.

25:36Ronnie Karam: Thank you, Dr. Cynthia. Guys, don't worry. What kind of fluid? Just some fluid. Was it a Diet Coke? Slurpee? What was it? Red fluid? It was fluid, okay. Okay, so was it fluid like your water broke? She's like, oh, my God. Guys, the wound was open from one of my surgeries, okay? Oh, yeah, that happened to me. I had to go to the doctor because I had a suture come out, and I wasn't bleeding. So yours was open? You didn't see anything? Let her tell the story, okay? She's not saying that this is happening right now. You don't have to diagnose her. She already went to the hospital. She'll tell you what happened.

26:11Wait a second. What sort of couch is it? Is it like a Keurig? Is it like a Keurig machine?

26:15Ronnie Karam: No. What's it? Is it like nail polish? Nail polish remover? Acetate? Acetone? Lotion?

26:25they're just playing celebrity with liquids now so i played celebrity over the weekend and i had to i had to be mary j blige and it was really difficult i just want to say if you ever have to do express mary j blige in charades form good luck because it was really really hard really why you couldn't sing well because in celebrity there's three stages and the first stage is like a pyramid where you can say okay She has a song called No More Drama. You go, Mary J. Blige. And the second stage, you can only say one word. So you say drama. But the third stage is only charades. And really trying to express it.

27:00I just kept on crossing my arms like this to express like, no more drama. And then I'd sing. It's really hard, guys. I don't know. I've been through a lot.

27:12Ronnie Karam: That was basically your butt exploding. It was a lot of fluid. That was Ben's version. So they're like, well, at least you're still hot. Oh, praise God you're okay. and they're like, yeah, you look great. Don't worry. And Cynthia's like, no, no matter what we're going through, we can be at each other's throats. But then something happens and we all come together. Cynthia, are you just pulling out lines that you say every season? Like, why are you even saying that? None of you are fighting. Just some fluid. Just some fluid. By the way, importantly. This is a sisterhood. A sisterhood of fluid things.

27:47Kay Michelle, by the way, she is annoyed at Portia because she says, Portia knows exactly what's been going on with me. And we've been talking. And just as I know that her boobs are not healing as she would like them to, like, why are you busting out saying this? So there's an added context of Kate Michelle saying, like, you know, I'm not pregnant. And you know, I'm dealing with that. So why are you saying is it a miscarriage? Because, you know, like, there's nothing in my hot pocket. Right. So that's why she's, I think, really mad because it's to her. She's thinking it like, oh, Portia's kind of like rubbing salt in the wounds, which I don't really think Portia was doing that.

28:16Like maybe it wasn't the, like the, you know, you know, talking about miscarriages is a very fraught subject. There's a lot of sensitivity and like people have a lot of PTSD around those. So like maybe you don't just like, just say that. But I don't think that Portia was trying to start shit over something like this.

28:33Ronnie Karam: I don't either. But Kay Michelle also has sensitivities from last time she was on TV. I mean, as she said in the first episode, she's like, I'm, you know, I've been traumatized by women. I've been in one of these groups. and these women ripped me apart and they did nothing but rip me down and tear me down and I'm not having it again. And so she knows that she's in that environment again and so I think she's looking under stones. Yeah, being like is fucking Portia starting with me already? Because I'll take her down. And Portia's like, no, I was just saying. So K. Michelle's asking about the waffles, the waffle the grand opening and Fage was like, oh well it went good you know cynthia and i we went and i'm really proud of her and k michelle's like but you didn't go porsche or she's like no she's like yeah you know well remember remember when kelly and i remember we had a conversation i remember how it got uncomfortable well then after that she went to angela and told her that she basically called me a whore she's and then you know she's always sent her some flowers and she landed you know a whack reed and so then we see a flashback of Kelly saying, broken flowers from a broken person.

29:46So dramatic. Lady, you're serving waffles.

29:49Ronnie Karam: And Portia's like, yeah, and then she called me a whore behind my back because I said she was dating a married man or whatever. And so Cynthia's like, okay, okay, Michelle, now do you think that maybe there was some truth to that and that's why she was like that. And she's like, I don't know what that woman is doing with her hot pocket. I don't know. Ask me about that lady's hot pocket. And Cynthia goes, wait, what is a hot pocket? It's like, oh God, Cynthia, come on. She's like, no, I've never even heard of the concept. They're like, you don't know what a hot pocket is? It's her vagina, Cynthia.

30:26She's like, oh, so I've got a hot pocket? Why do they have them in the frozen section? Oh, God, we really have to explain a lot to her.

30:38Ronnie Karam: So now Shamia is with her husband and two kids walking to school. And she's like, oh, our family's just doing wonderful. Shia's big. She's in first grade. She goes over the family thing. And then they get rid of the kids. And she's just talking to the husband. And she's like, so I know we haven't had much time to talk since I got back from Grenada. But, you know, I definitely told him I'm in. He's like, oh, OK. Well, how do you feel about it? You know, me partnering with the rum company. And he's like, crickets, crickets. I mean, it's fine. You're just going to have to put some work into that.

31:15Ronnie Karam: So he's not happy about this. We'll find out she knew he wasn't happy about it. Then she went to Grenada and did it anyway. And now she's waiting until they get back on TV to drop this information on him. hoping that, I don't know, maybe he'll fake it and act like he's happy. And we're learning very quickly this man's not going to fake it. Yeah, this man's a businessman. And we see a flashback of him being on the call, speaking to the people at this rum company. And he's asking all these questions like, how much is the cost per bottle? What's the distribution? What's the retail price? How many employees do you have?

31:50He's asking all these questions. And he's so unimpressed. I mean, he literally was like, yeah, um yeah this can be an international thing and like you know it's just it's gonna be it's gonna require too much much of an investment he basically shuts them all down and then like walks away and she means like okay great that was my storyline for the season uh gerald so we're gonna have to walk some of that back and sell that rum yeah and she's like so then after that call i had to get my

32:19Ronnie Karam: on a plane fly over there and convince them that i love you guys i love the lord can you hear me cry so to me why are you trying so hard for something that listen to the guy who's got the money you know i don't obviously he's willing to invest in you and help you out but i don't know i would listen there's someone locally that you could work with you know i mean look we know it's not going to go anywhere a housewife starting an abuse company it's it hasn't really taken off since bethany let's be honest everyone is talking about chasing the dragon a literal dragon it's people trying to do the bethany storyline and like god bless jamia but this is well i looked this up today i was cracking up i was cracking up because i looked up shamia's liquor company peach because i was like peach rum so i looked it up and it's called rum bum and the bottle is shaped like her ass so i'm more in after knowing all of that did we already know that it was shaped like her ass because i i don't think i knew that but i think that's kind of amazing i want ass shaped rum uh will there be a silicone injected into it how is it going to fit on the shelves with all the other bottles remember that drink from like 2000 like 1998 that awful drink that was like beverage but they had like had like little gelatin balls in it had those oh yes oh what was that what was that terrible, terrible concept that someone got the money for, got it onto shelves and actually tried to make it a thing in America.

33:58That awful, awful beverage. That's what I'm envisioning here. Honestly, if I'm getting rum, I'm not, this is, this is so unappetizing to me. I mean, I'm not a big peach fan as it is. So like peach rum is really unappetizing and then a bottle in the shape of her ass. It's sort of, I guess like a novelty bachelorette parties or whatever, But like, lady, like, do you want to be taken seriously in this endeavor? No one wants ass rum. No one wants ass rum. No one wants rum that tastes like a peach. I think that kind of like flavored liquors are just kind of also very passe.

34:35Ronnie Karam: I mean, that's hard to sell as it is, right? Like, you know, like, oh, it's a crazy flavored rum. Well, I don't know that peach is that crazy. Well, apparently it is because they're like, we find out later. They're like, yeah, we don't have peaches here. but it's not a natural combo yeah she that's weird enough but then to try and sell it as your ass like do you want my ass drink no i don't want to drink from your ass it's just weird who who's helping you with this branding listen to your husband on this one i understand on some level there's like this idea of like oh this bottle that's like showcasing the beautiful form of a woman's butt right like this beautiful peach shape this is god's creation more or less and this you know like oh let's celebrate this the peach and especially if you're like in atlanta the peaches has so much significance and yada yada yada i understand that but i still think it's like very niche it's a niche peach and i just think that like this seems like something that's like a great idea to shamia but like is not a she didn't do a consideration of like maybe what the market the rest of the world yeah like what are you gonna what are you gonna put in your p i mean i guess you could have it's like you know what like maybe it'll be like a fad like sweet tea vodka was here for a moment and you'd mix it with lemonade and it was honestly delicious and i would still have it but beyond that like what do you use the sweet tea vodka for like there's really only one drink you can make with it what are you using yeah rum for yeah this is not this isn't gonna work i'm so sorry but rum ass nobody wants that so um now she's like you know um you know what honey this could be successful as your hvac is no shamia no one needs no one needs ass rum to cool them off in the summer you know what's always gonna happen summer yeah it's like oh The Atlanta airport needs as much peach rum as it does HVACs.

36:37Ronnie Karam: But it's also like a bizarre thing to try and compete with. Like, honey, my business is going to be as needed as your business. Like, listen, don't marry a kabillionaire and then try to compete with a kabillionaire. I know that, like, there's got to be something in you that's like, well, I want to make my own. I want to be my own person and I don't want to just be known as this person's wife or this person's spouse. I get that. But you're already a real housewife. I'm not saying don't do anything. I'm just saying don't do things with the, because she's always competing. You know, it's like now she's got this husband and he's more successful.

37:14Ronnie Karam: So she wants to like prove herself worthy of him. She's got Portia who Portia was always more successful and famous. And so Shamia wanted to be as important as her. Shamia, you just need to be yourself. Okay. Just be you, Shamia. Just be you. I don't personally think that she's trying to compete with her husband. Even though she made that comment, I think that she's kind of like, ooh, he's given, he's put a lot of money into my singing career. It's not exactly taking off. I feel kind of bad. I feel like I got to do something. And I'm on the show. I need a storyline. And maybe I can be, I need to find success.

37:49I think that she probably is like, I have not done the things that I wanted to do in life. I need to find success some way. So this is, this will be what it is. My sparkling personality will sell, move lots and lots of these bottles of rum. And you know what? I want her Shamiya to have success. And I actually really agree with you that she is enough because before when she was a friend of, she was just herself. And like, I think we all loved Shamiya. And now that she's become a housewife, she's become like the Anne Hathaway of housewives. And like, it's just like too, it's like too much. But I just don't feel like this is it.

38:21And I want to support her. But this is just not the way forward. I feel like at this juncture, I'm going to say it's a pass for me, dog, on the page. Yeah.

38:33Ronnie Karam: And she says, you know, I mean, you do so much. I just want to be able to retire us, you know. Gosh, it's always wondering, when are people going to need air conditioning? You know, they're not always going to need it, but they're always going to need rum, you know. He's like, he's just not saying anything. So she says, yeah, he wants me to have something of my own, but he wants me to have something that would be successful. And he doesn't believe in this business venture, but I'm all in. I feel like it's worth the risk.

39:04Ronnie Karam: It's not. It's not worth the risk. It's not. So she's like, so what do you think about getting this rum over in Kenya? And he's like, they drink whiskey in Kenya. They don't drink rum. She's like, okay, well, you might have to stop drinking whiskey. okay we're just gonna change kenya how about that the next goal i'm gonna put that on my to-do list change kenya okay we can do this honey we can do it he's like please it's called fucking kill me research just push me out into the road and let me be run over please you know what sounds like a great idea is taking this company that's already international and then like being like let's target kenya and i'm sure those shipping costs will be really cheap really cheap uh from grenada to kenya and your commercials here comes one right now my favorite place in the world the whole entire world and i've traveled quite a bit the past couple years but my favorite place is still my bed i love my bed sleep is so important to me i just love sleep it's like the best time to be awake is when you're sleeping and the most important thing to me is a comfortable bed duh the most comfortable bed i found by far is the legend hybrid mattress from Lisa.

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43:05Ronnie Karam: so now let's go to pinky uh at the whitley agency whitley i wish it was whitley me too i'll let jasmine guy be here

43:17Ronnie Karam: please i need whitley back in my life i love her so this is james walker esquire and um pinky's having trouble with her shoes so she's like taking little steps and this is the now this is another scene i was like what the hell so she is going to file secret bankruptcy so that her husband doesn't find out yeah i don't like why are you doing this don't do this i feel like that's gonna cause like i don't like i feel like you should be able to share everything with your husband and i think that if you're going to embark on personal bankruptcy you just like i I don't know. I just, that affects your husband.

43:59Ronnie Karam: That affects your husband and affects your family. You need to tell your husband, but the hell, this is crazy thing in your life. You just need to tell your husband because you need to like, you don't, you want the person that you love the most to know what's going on with you and to make them feel like they're on this journey with you. Like you don't want him to feel like, you know, Oh, I, she doesn't trust me or she's like afraid to show me, but you have to like, you have to like, you have to share everything that's why i always before we start the show i always give ronnie a full rundown of like how i folded my socks and all sorts of other terrible minutia that's why i told the story by the way about playing mary j blige and celebrity because i need to share i needed to know if i had heard that from somebody else i would have been like are we even friends i couldn't let ronnie find out any other way he had to know no but for real though like i think that like yes it affects his life but more importantly i just think like pinky don't do this don't do this pinky like well she had mentioned that he you know when she was going through her worst he was never there for her opening some cheese cheese cheese steak store the cheese steak factory all different flavored cheese steaks you want a lemon meringue cheese steak do you want a a chocolate chip cheese steak now there's a plan to me uh there you go i just came that's a freebie that's a freebie so he was opening a place or whatever and ignoring pinky and so he wasn't really there for her and that's what she was crying about last week so i mean i get that like maybe that's her reasoning like well you know i need to do this alone but yeah and you can't do this in marriage it's crazy i think also yeah you can't i think also there probably is an element of like oh my god i've messed this up so much i just don't want to burden someone else with with this.

45:48I'm just going to do it. I'm sure there's that part. But honey, you are a vegan, so you cannot be beefing with your man. See what I did there? See?

45:57Ronnie Karam: You owe him the Tofurky truth. This time to talk Tofurky. Okay. Let's sprinkle some nutritional yeast on this situation. Okay? Because this is not the time to be cheesy. So, anyway, she is crying, and she's It's like, I'm one of the most prominent black women entrepreneurs in the country. So to wake up today and find out. And she says over and over that she is like a huge deal. And this is very big because she doesn't want her fans to be uninspired. And so she goes through what this all is. So she says she was in business and her former CFO took money from the company. She got forced into filing an ABC.

46:44Ronnie Karam: and now here she is and she's got a super successful business but she's crumbling on the inside because she had$20 million in debt and now she's thinking it's folding and she can start fresh but then she gets knocked back down because she's a personal guarantor oh my god my butthole clenched through all of this this stressed me out this isn't even my life and I was freaking out and she talks about all these random lawsuits that she now has to deal with she goes i've got lawsuits like i've got underwear so she says there's one time one of her partners played the like a a fight at bar vegan i guess there's a place called bar vegan and they didn't i guess they didn't pay the the whatever you have to pay for because you know all those boxing matches and everything or ufc whatever they like extort those venues like oh you want to show our thing at your bar, well, then you owe us$20 million.

47:42And so now they owe$100 ,000 to the promoters of that event. And then she has something,$2 million.

47:50Ronnie Karam: Well, yeah, those fights, you pay for those fights. You can't just pay for one and then have everybody in the neighborhood come watch it, I guess. Yes. Is that what happened? So she's saying she owes them$100 ,000 now because she played the fight. And then there's another lawsuit for almost$2 million because she couldn't use her liquor license because her investors already had a liquor license. Oh my gosh. It just sounds like a lot of like mismanagement, which I think is probably hard. Like if you are someone who's like, I am a vegan chef and I want to like, I'm making this food. It's so good.

48:22And you're like, maybe not business minded, but you're like, you can make good vegan food. And then you get thrown into these situations. And then all of a sudden, all this mismanagement rises up around you and you have no idea. And then next thing you know, you're in, in Pinky's situation, which really generally sucks. And she keeps on saying, I'm just going to start fresh. I'm going to start fresh. I'm like, will that really be a true option once all this is settled down? Like, you know, business is so hard and you have to sort of strike when the lightning is, when the, when the iron is hot, when the lightning is hot.

48:51When the lightning is hot.

48:52Ronnie Karam: You're like, I just, ow, ow, I just hit lightning. Oh, God. Do not punch lightning. Come on, guys. Oh, it turns out it was a hot pocket. I got the cold part of it. Cynthia's like, get your hand out of my vagina. Why was someone punching my vagina? Is there fluid? Did the lightning leave fluid? Anyway, the point is that she's in a really bad place. And she is, like, crying because it sucks and it's hard. But she's going to, like, come back. And she feels like she can't fail. She's like, I'm a black woman. So it's a big responsibility to be the best. And people said that, like, you couldn't build a$100 million brand.

49:30And I did. And so she's just going to try to start over.

49:35Ronnie Karam: Yikes. So then we go to Barney's for breakfast. K. Michelle is meeting with Cynthia. And Cynthia is like, well, I've just wanted to have some one-on-one time. So we have some time before Pinky gets here. Do you have a hot pocket? Do I have a hot pocket? Will there be hot pockets? I'm still confused. Is this an actual thing that we eat or is it just a metaphor? I went to the store and I got a hot pocket. And then I put it in the microwave. I got very offended that you guys were calling my vagina Hot Pocket. I did like that the Hot Pocket came with a little dress. That's not a dress. It's just it's microwavable little sleeve he goes in.

50:13Trust me. Fashion is fashion. Did not taste good. Did not taste good. You're supposed to take that part off, Cynthia.

50:21Ronnie Karam: So we find out that K. Michelle and Pinky are sorority sisters. They're Deltas, okay? so K. Michelle's like I am seven belts at Alpha Florida A &M and we see a video of her during her sorority days dancing and Pinky Cole is Miss Clark Atlanta University and they are the queens of their HBCU that's right so they order some drinks and K. Michelle is basically like I'm getting through a lot so I'm gonna drink okay after my ass popping out of my back she's like I feel like I didn't deserve that or I feel like I do deserve the drink. It didn't deserve my ass popping on my back. So they're happy. And Cynthia's like, I've been activated.

51:01Ronnie Karam: Maybe you've heard of 50 Cent. Oh, geez. We just met you. We're already sick of this. Okay, fast forward. Fast forward. So she's like, speaking of activated, Kay, Michelle, I saw you were activated on Twitter. And Pinky's like, who's the bimbo? So Cynthia says, imagine this. I'm sitting on my patio, otherwise known as my countertop, at Link Bailey, minding my own business, and I get on my social media and I come across a tweet from K. Michelle. K. Michelle. I almost spilled my tea. So then we see this tweet come up and it's like, it's time to read toxic tweets from K. Michelle. So they all start reading them and they're all like in front of a brick wall because I guess this is supposed to be like a stand-up moment or something.

51:48So Portia's like, I am my own person and I sit there and I smile and clock it, but I'm not about that bullshit. And then Kelly reads one that goes activated because she says she's activated and shamia's like not activated more like activated o 'clock am i right everyone bimbos are the loudest and most confident shut

52:08Ronnie Karam: your face hmm she just told me she was in the hospital who the hell is she talking about is the nurse a bimbo pager's like well i'm very confident not that loud and definitely never a bimbo, so I guess it rules me out. Okay, Michelle's like, I've been speaking my mind for over 10 years on Twitter. No one's gonna question me. I'm famous. So here are the actual tweets. The first one is, no man is gonna tell me what the fuck to do with my body. Try it. Malcolm X, come out and play. That's from 2019. Oh, 2019. Oh, okay. That makes much more. I was like, wait a second. This has nothing to do with. These are past tweets proving that she's not gonna take shit on Twitter.

52:50Ronnie Karam: Yeah. So the next one is from 2016 And it says I'm always in black media for nothing I wake up to fake pics Black men who I've never met speaking on trees Realize I'm famous enough So then we're back at this lunch And Cynthia's like First of all I hope I'm not the person You're activated against right now Which would be funny if K-Michelle Like if Cynthia somehow activated K-Michelle Like by not knowing about the Hot Pocket These people didn't even know my joke did I say anything wrong because I've never been called a bimbo first of all really and second she's like you've never been called a bimbo you ate the wrapper on a hot pocket you just told me I'm still trying to figure out where the pocket is okay so Kim Michelle's like well you know I had already talked to Portia about what happened and what was going on with me and then this big dingbat bust out they just start laughing because she kills Portia doing that.

53:52Ronnie Karam: And then she goes out and says, you had a miscarriage? What? Who says that to a woman? Pinky's like, yeah, you don't do that. And so she says, at that moment, I realized that I was being Kelly'd, that big-titted lady.

54:09Ronnie Karam: I didn't even understand it. I got to get home. When she said, I got to get home, oh, I love this woman. So Pinky's like, well, I think you need to have a conversation with her for sure. Who, the big-titty woman? No, no, Portia. Oh, the other big-titty woman, but the dingbat one. Yes. So she probably doesn't even know that she's a bimbo that you're talking about. So he goes, okay, well, I've known these ladies for a while and I'm not saying they're perfect and everybody has their flaws. A lot of them do dumb stuff. Like, I don't know, eat Hot Pockets with the cardboard thing still on. I'm not saying who did that, but sometimes people do that.

54:45Gotta give them a pass, okay? That was you, dingbat. It was me. It was me.

54:51Ronnie Karam: But everybody knows that Portia sometimes just speaks before she thinks, honey. And maybe the miscarriage thing was a reach, but I think it was innocent, you know. And so she's like, okay, can I ask you a question for real? So what's up with Phaedra? Because all she does is giggle. But she's like, like that. And then we just cut to Phaedra laughing at the nail salon. And Pinky says, she's too busy eating dead people at the morgue. and she goes what she goes yeah she's too busy eating good people at the morgue what what are they talking about by the way i just want to circle back to something real quickly that when cynthia said sometimes portia says things without thinking do you think that portia told the producers if you show the underground railroad clip one more time i'm leaving the show because i was like here it comes here it comes and then it didn't happen i was like wait a second

55:45Ronnie Karam: so Phaedra Pinky she goes wait wait wait me eat dead people is she like that I mean she's being so nice and Pinky says well Phaedra's telling everybody that I eat meat so I don't know if she's nice I'm on the board of PETA okay I do a lot of things like you can't play with my money like that okay if anyone's gonna play with my money it's me okay I will give you 20 million dollars of it but you do not play with my money I feel like we are already in the middle of a Pinky and Phaedra feud, but they didn't set it up properly. When did Phaedra go around telling everyone that Pinky's eating meat? We see a flashback and Shamia tells, Shamia's with Pinky and Angela, and they're at like a hot tub.

56:27They're at Shamia's backyard. And Shamia's like, Phaedra said that Pinky's eating meat. I'm like, I feel like we deserve like a better setup for this feud than like a half-baked flashback to Shamia's hot tub.

56:41Ronnie Karam: Yeah, I need to know what it was. Was Phaedra saying, well, I don't know if she, maybe she eats meat sometimes. I don't know. Maybe she's vegan. Maybe she, who knows what it was, but I need to see it. It's not proof showing Shamia in a hot tub, accusing her of it, you know? So now Kay Michelle's like, well, I mean, you can't trust no lawyer that don't practice the law. How dare you? I trust Julia Margulies with my life. Even Juliana Margulies too. Juliana Margulies. I should have gone with Christine Baranski because I wouldn't trust Julianna Margulies. I know. Let's be honest. We know what she really is.

57:15Yeah. A nurse. Give him a doctor. She's in the medical field. She's not a lawyer.

57:22Ronnie Karam: Yeah. And Pinky then again goes, well, I won't trust a lawyer that eats dead people. What are you talking about? You guys are saying crazy stuff right now. You know, so far I'm 100 % behind K. Michelle. I'm not 100 % behind Pinky. I just can't I'm not like hating I'm not a hater I just don't really understand what she's talking about ever I don't know why you can't trust a lawyer who eats dead people I just don't know where that came from also like why would you not trust Phaedra as a lawyer you know that she will always be able to secure a bag of cash for you in a parking lot it's she's great so Cynthia is like well we went from Kay calling Porsche bimbo to Pinky saying that Phaedra's running around town saying that she ate meat.

58:08I can't keep up. Phaedra's accountable now? Do we know about this?

58:12Ronnie Karam: Pinky's saying, oh, I have enough shit going on between lawsuits, bankruptcy, my husband, my relationship, and, you know, can I trust these women with my secrets? Can I trust them? Can you? Well, the answer is no, by the way. You're on reality TV. You trust no one. So, um, Pinky's saying how she went and talked to her bankruptcy attorney, and uh, and no, Derek doesn't know and k michelle's like you done walked out of the house this morning carrying all that you didn't tell him she's like i did i just i just i just i don't want to stress him out about that you know listen we're in a group with cannibals this is a very very scary situation i i just couldn't add that to the situation couldn't add that to my pile yeah i'm like oh my god you have to tell your husband and she's like cut you're making me feel like i cheated on the man um yeah Yeah, I mean, I don't know.

59:04Ronnie Karam: Bankruptcy affects your partner. You have to tell your partner. You have to, okay? It's not a question. So now she's saying there's so much pressure and she's vulnerable. And, you know, she's tired of being a strong friend all the time. And Cynthia's like, well, you know, sometimes it's important just to be able to say, this is not a bench outside. This is a countertop in my kitchen. And that's okay. And now they're laughing because Cynthia's like, I'm not a mean girl. I love women. And they're like, wait a minute. Why do you love women? Wait a minute, Cynthia. She's like, ah. So they'll start laughing.

59:39Ronnie Karam: And then Pinky's like shaking her boobs at Cynthia. And she's like, oh, I guess you guys are getting my ass together now. Wait, these two girls are balls of energy, honey. And I don't know what ball is coming at me next. Because we're a sisterhood. And these women can be crazy. I don't even think Cynthia knows what season she's in. And I think they just sit her down and they're like, Cynthia, just say something housewives-y. She's like, you know what? You can't always count on things working out. But you can't count on my women friends being crazy. Yeah, it's like a lot of evergreen commentary coming from her.

1:00:14So then we go to a Donna restaurant. And now we meet Black. Because there was some debate about whether Black was actually just an AI-generated boyfriend in a phone. But he is real. So he shows up in like this pleather shirt that's like open. So he's basically, but like open with no, no undershirt. He's basically pulling Luke from the Valley, which I also thought that was weird last week when Luke showed up in the almost the exact same outfit or at least the same style, um, at this frontier party in Santa Clarita. So here's black in this restaurant shirt all the way open. And I'm like, what, what is happening?

1:00:49Why are, why is your shirt all the way open? I mean, look, your veneers look great,

1:00:53Ronnie Karam: but like the shirt what is happening here and he shows up in wait how do you realize size of atlanta i'm looking up i'm looking him up um black tatted is making his in-person debut on the real housewives of atlanta appearing as a close friend of drew um who is black known as black tatted he's decided he's described as a charismatic friend what does he do do we know uh i know nothing about this person except because he drives up in like a ferrari or something and then he comes in like you said just like bearing all and then with a big diamond his name like in a big diamond thing across his chest it's getting a wannabe influencer i this morning i was driving down melrose avenue and there was this car that was like like making all this noise i'm like lady or sir whoever it is i'm still gonna call you lady it's 8 30 in the morning why are you making all this noise and they he had like a sticker on the side of his car that was had like the instance like at whatever their name was and i was like so i looked at it because i was like i want to see who this douchebag is and you go to their instagram and they are a douchebag but i'm like that's what black reminds me of he reminds me of those got some of the people who just like drive down melrose with their instagram handle or their social media handle on the side of their car making as much noise as possible and i'm like i'm like what you're not going to get cast on love island what are you doing here yeah i don't know much obviously about black i do know that he will invest he will ask you to invest in his crypto coin during your first conversation he is saving up for his cyber truck so um he's brought gifts for the kids yeah he's not trustworthy yeah i it's just really it really came down to that open shirt i was just like you're in a restaurant you're in a restaurant why are you why are you doing this um but they um they order some hookah and um they just are making small talk where she's like oh my god i can't believe you're here you're my best friend you're my best friend you're my best friend so he's like i mean all my money aside you look like a million bucks like what money do we do we have do we know do we know what the money is if you put your money aside she wouldn't be here okay so let's get to the point so he's like are we friends with benefits and she's like well we have intimate moments we cuddle we snuggle we hold hands and i just think that right now it's important for me to put more energy and focus on my kids and this three long divorce journey it's like who gets divorced for three years am i right um by the way i looked up more about black tatted um he is a entrepreneur and he owns something called black smoke which is like a fruit-based tobacco-free nicotine-free hookup product and he gained fame for his dip challenge which reportedly made him 1.4 million dollars in nine hours so whoa our read on him in many ways was correct like he is definitely like a social media guy who like an influencer etc so i guess he has money he has money dip challenge well that explains why he is uh ordering hookah i guess they're in a place for the work yeah so he's here to publicize his business so um there's a whole profile of him in essence magazine so i mean he's he's got money i mean he's legit but he definitely presents as just like one of these generic influencers who's like like acting like they're wealthier like there's so many by the way there's so many these well like influencers that like stand by sports cars, you go onto threads or Twitter and they stand by a sports car and they're like, this is my life.

1:04:35And you're like, you rented that for the day, you know? And so it's just hard to take any of them seriously. So then when someone comes around who actually has some success, you just immediately doubt it because you're, you're, you're presenting like any one of these generic, you know, influencers on social media, who's just like flexing just to get followers, which is a great segue to say, if you want to follow anyone, you should follow Ronnie and I on Instagram. So that way we too can invest in a hookah company someday.

1:05:03Ronnie Karam: So he's like, you know, your divorce still isn't finalized. And, you know, you don't give girlfriend material. You give wife. And you're like an investment that somebody else has already invested in. So in order to come full throttle and make an investment, this partner has to get out because I don't share. I'm a boss. Okay. I'm not rushing you or anything. I'm just saying divorce him so we can get married and I can give your children gifts. What the hell? Black, did you not just watch Pinky Cole storyline? You don't want to be the personal guarantor. Like it's okay to be a co-investor. Yeah, this is not the episode we want to talk about investments.

1:05:41Ronnie Karam: Angela's next. I know. It's like investment, crashing investments all around us. So this is literally not how, this is literally not how investing works. You don't watch Shark Tank and say like, hmm, okay. hey, I'm offering you a 100 % investment in my company. You can have multiple investors. Yeah. So they do this whole like, but we're just friends. Yeah, but we're friends, but we could be more. Maybe we could, but we're just friends now. We are just friends. We're just friends. So hookah, hookah, hookah, smoke, hookah, smoke, back. Back hookah, smoke. So then we go to Angela. Oh, sorry. The TLDR on this is that Drew needs a storyline.

1:06:23Black needs a platform to promote his hookah. And here they are having a date together pretending like they're best friends.

1:06:30Ronnie Karam: Yes. So we've had Portia's fake boyfriend to open the season. Drew's fake boyfriend already on episode 30. Let's see how many fakes we can get going this season. Let's go over to Angela's rental property. She shows up with her daughter. and Angela is also going behind her husband's back to do crazy things. And she secretly bought a house. The difference here is I think that Charles is probably fine with it. He's like, if I don't have to hear about it, like if I don't have to deal with you complaining about it, fine, do it behind my back. I've got to make Brussels sprouts for 500 people right now.

1:07:10Ronnie Karam: So does Charles know about this house? I felt like Charles did know this house. Oh, yeah. I don't think, did he know? I think she does. Yeah, I think she knows. But maybe she just didn't tell Amari or something because it says secret house in our notes. So anyway, they go in and this house isn't great. And Amari is just looking at it like gross. And she's like, why are you looking like that? And she says, well, it's just different from how you usually do your houses. So did you already flip this one? or well i guess what charles knows that that there's a house under contract but i don't think that he really knows he hasn't seen that he doesn't know what house it is and this house is like full of spiders and like there's a tire in the backyard and it's like definitely a good contender to be flipped etc so that's the degree of the secrecy so she says that this house is an emotional purchase because she lost her mom and her properties last year.

1:08:08Ronnie Karam: And, um, she believes the house is what the market wants because it's a single family is entry level. And so I wanted to use this property to lick my wounds. And we see that this was a$159 ,000 house, three bedroom, two bath in Decatur. That's cheap as hell. I, yeah, exactly. I was about to say, you're not going to lose a million dollars on that one. But, um, I actually thought this was like a perfectly smart choice. I don't know anything about Takeda, Georgia, so I can't talk about the neighborhood, but it's like, this is just a, like a single family home. Like it wasn't like she was trying to do something super big and fancy, which I think if I remember the places that she was flipping last year, she was trying to sort of do something much bigger, even though they weren't like enormous houses.

1:08:53Uh, it seems like she's going for more of a humble flip this time. And I think that's probably smart, you know, cause you know, not every flip has to be something that is going to be, you know, an architectural digest, you can just make a really nice house for someone to live in and like make life better for someone.

1:09:11Ronnie Karam: Yeah. Well, I mean, it's about making money, but I don't know if she's like, you know, like if you buy a cheap house in Decatur, you're also not going to sell it for, you're not going to have as much profit selling it, but I see what you mean. Like she has to practice and get it down. Yeah. Yeah. Like you don't have, like, you don't like, you don't have to like do the big swings, you know, she can have a flip her flop moment she can have like a tarik al-jaleel moment what's that his last name again tarik whatever tarik moment tarik and christina moment and just like work on like a small scale and get it right you know that's so it has my blessing in case anyone wondered so then angela all the angela's new show flop and flop flop and flop with tarik tarik still shows up in his annoying yeah so she's gonna do this house and charles has not seen the house and he she knows he's he knows she's under contract but that's all he knows and she's like you know there's a big part of me that feels like charles does not take my business seriously well you know you you do you look four houses were in foreclosure you know what i mean like it's fair this is fair so she's like But right now I do have my business, Fangie, which is fans.

1:10:31Ronnie Karam: And she owns a financial consulting company. And they still do own real estate. So he wouldn't have gone along with her purchasing the home. So wait. So he doesn't know about that? I'm so confused by this. Angela has a way of talking. What are you talking about? He knows there is a house. He just doesn't know what house it is. So he hasn't seen this house. He hasn't seen that this is the house with all the spiders in the tire. by the way Tariq El Moussa El Moussa was the last name El Moussa yeah right yeah I was like that didn't sound right I don't even know where that came from but um so anyway Amari is like do you think do you think this is actually about making money or is this you trying to prove something and Angela in the slowest soap opera moment of all times turns around and goes damn it Amari yeah it's like can I just have one win I'm not shooting with your father today so somebody doesn't mock me for being a moron for all of my scenes she just does melodrama so slowly and so she's like with the losses that we had in 2024 i just feel like i can close that chapter if i had just one win one win so she's hoping that this will bring closure to all that and also like the closure to losing her mom um you know because she's really grieving that and everything but she's also realizing that there just really never will be closure.

1:11:51Ronnie Karam: I don't know, like eat a lot or fuck a stranger or go to Vegas, you know, buying a house. There's just so many ways to get closure. This is a crazy one. So now we go to an office and Shamia is there. We are at Heritage Personal Injury Firm and she's meeting her sister. This is where you go if you get injured by a Milano cookie. heritage personal heritage why am I saying that are you thinking of pepperidge I was trying to think of heritage cookies remember what I said earlier in the episode they're not all gonna land they're not all gonna land especially when you get them completely wrong heritage has nothing to do with pepperidge so she comes in and she hugs a man with a green beard so you're right it could still be a cookie company this this one's in a tree now we're in a tree this probably this probably is the firm you'd go to if you got injured by a milano cookie like don't worry our green bearded lawyers will save you so shimia tells us i know what y 'all are thinking but green beard aside he's he's not a leprechaun so um is this a guy do you think do you think this is like a sweet James of Atlanta like this guy has billboards everywhere and like his thing is that he has a green beard he's like I'll make I'll get your money back I've gotten so much money back for people my my beard has turned green and it's like it's on bus benches so like that's his thing do you think that's probably what's happening here uh I don't know but that would be funny if she's calling it I mean she is calling a personal injury firm for to help her with rum contracts.

1:13:33So yes,

1:13:34Ronnie Karam: that's true too. It is a little bizarre. So she's like Maximilian Booker has really helped me with this rum deal. And since I didn't have the help from Gerald, I had to rely on Max. So that's what happens, Gerald. You don't support the business. She's going on bus benches and getting lawyers to help her with this rum business. So that's right. Yeah. In the end, you're going to pay Gerald. You might as well just help. Yeah. Yeah. I, uh, I'm, I took me a really long, even though this guy with a green beard was actually not the one who helped her, he just sort of like brokered a connection with this other person.

1:14:06And then he sort of walked away. I thought, I honestly, the moment I see that green beard, I'm, I'm walking out of this place of business. I'm sorry. Yeah. Yeah.

1:14:15Ronnie Karam: You know, appearances matter and stuff like that. That's why every time you see your real estate agent, especially around here, there's like fake teeth, fake lips, fake eyes, fake, like they look completely crazy. Like appearances matter, you know? Yeah. No one in a green beard. I'll tell you that. So then, she's like, I can't wait to have a bottle shaped like my ass, okay? And she stands up and shows her ass, and they're kind of laughing, and Maximilian's like, I am Maximilian, and I'm a personal injury attorney. I work with a guy with a green beard, and even I'm concerned. Can we talk about this?

1:14:48Yeah. So she goes, hello, I'm giving new meaning to ass shots, right? I'm like, really? The same episode that Kay Michelle is sitting here crying. So she goes, my peach rum is going to be called rum bum rum bum so funny right this is don't you want to get rum bum right so uh shimia's saying i love compache and i love the thought of it and like helping with your libido you know and like it just would be nice to put like my own flavor into it you know because i'm born and raised in atlanta and i'm like what you would call a sweet peach but i don't think i saw any peaches when i in Grenada. And the guy who's who's like on the Zoom is like, yeah, we don't we don't have peaches.

1:15:32That's why we don't have peach rum.

1:15:33Ronnie Karam: She's like, okay, so we're going to import the peaches in. They're like, yeah, that could be a challenge. And she goes, okay, it's going to be a challenge. He goes, yeah, sounds expensive. She's like, well, you know, finding out the peaches don't grow on the island of Grenada at all. That kind of threw a wrench in my plans. Never heard of an internet before. I could have Googled that. So God, now I'm going to have to figure out where to get peach flavoring. So you mean to tell me you went all the way down to Grenada to schmooze with these people, but you didn't ask about how they grow things, what's grown around, what the local climate can offer, etc., etc., etc.

1:16:11You didn't do your research on Grenada.

1:16:12Ronnie Karam: Anyway, no one's expecting a Jamba juice. You don't need a fresh juice. You just get some peach flavoring. Drop it in there. Call it a day. Sure. Sounds great. That's probably what she will do, actually. She's like, I just want to get through all the red tape. Do we need an importer? Like, do we have one already? And they're like, yeah, it's just like, if we can do that, but we need a distributor and everything. So they have to go talk about like FDA approval and all this stuff. She's like, you said the bottles are already FDA approved, right? The FDA is like, have we got approval on that ass bottle yet?

1:16:46Okay. Pass that through. Well, we've had some trouble, but luckily with the Trump administration, and an ass-shaped bottle was greenlit right away. So it worked out really well for us.

1:16:59Ronnie Karam: I'm sorry. We're not going to be able to give you approval on that ass-shaped bottle. It's leaking. No, that's the other storyline today. I'm sorry I've been watching too much Atlanta. Got to stop watching the show while I'm trying to fill out my paperwork. So it's going to cost$30. Like, basically, her margins are going to be really low on this. And Shamia's like, I'm starting to see why Gerald was like, this is too much because right now I am doubting myself. But I'm still so passionate about this new thing that I put together for this season. I'm so passionate for it. So she's like, yeah, I think we have a workout out for us.

1:17:33And they're like, yeah, we're rubbing all over the world.

1:17:38Ronnie Karam: Oh, gosh. Yeah, this is going to be a failure. Okay, let's go to Tapas and Cocktails with Pinky and Derek date night. So she's like, oh, my gosh, we have a lot of kids. and it's really hard and, you know, business got us bogged down. We need a prayer night. We need a date night. So she's talking about how they were married for a year. They were about to call it quits. They drove all the way to the courthouse. And then he said, you better not get out of that car. So they got back in the car and then they started praying. And then they laughed and they kissed and they went home. Yeah, it's very rom-commy.

1:18:17You know what it is? It's very like season finale of a show. that I probably won't watch. So she says, people may say that we rushed into our relationship, but it just doesn't feel like that. Like me and Derek, we got married at 23. And so that was like three years into being together and I was pregnant at the time. So it's like almost dating after marriage. And I feel like, you know, we just, okay, we need to cue the violins. Like that's my best friend. And I just love him so much. The end. I will tell him almost every single thing in my life.

1:18:46Ronnie Karam: Except the biggest thing that's going on. Yeah, what she's about to tell him right now anyway. Um, so she's like, well, yeah, I got this. I've got three pending lawsuits and I've been dealing with the last three years in silence. And as much as I want to move forward, I just can't move forward. So she's talking about business stuff. And, uh, Derek is like, I want to be your support system. Like, you know, you're so strong and you battle it alone. And, you know, I just, I never, I've never turned my back on you ever, ever. Yeah. And so it's like, let me help you tell me anything you need to tell me right now.

1:19:17Ronnie Karam: She's like, okay. Yeah. Yeah, but you know, it's not your problem. And he's like, I don't care. I love you. I want to help you. She's like, yeah, I'm not ready to tell him. There's never a better time. Tell him right now. Oh, my God. Yeah. So I guess she doesn't tell him. In my mind, she doesn't tell him. No, she doesn't tell him. Next week. No, and he totally sets her up to tell him. And she's like, no, not comfortable telling him. Yikes. Yeah. So now we go to Virgil's with K. Michelle and Portia. and um k michelle is telling the waiter she's like um i got this mean lady who's coming to meet me here so get some whiskey ready so porsche comes in not knowing what's coming at all she's like well i was trying to text you and see how you were doing she's like well i was mad at you just why what's wrong she's like scrolling through her phone she's um are you gonna listen to me or you're gonna be on that phone so hold on hold on because what is k mad about she's well when i came in on Saturday.

1:20:13Well, I brought you to get your nails done. She's like, mm-hmm. And when I talked to you about the puddle, you busted and said a miscarriage. Like, why would you say that? I didn't know there was anything wrong with your butt. She's like, no, we had talked about it. Okay. We had talked about my surgery. She goes like, when? You mentioned a surgery and I didn't know what kind of surgery. And you know what I'm saying? Like, I didn't know that. Like, the only update about you is from Shamia.

1:20:36Ronnie Karam: She's like, uh, we're all talking about surgeries all the time. You're on a Real Housewives show. You're going to have to be a little more specific. Yeah. Okay. And so, okay, Michelle's like, but even like, like who talks about a miscarriage? Cause well, I've had several and I've dealt with infertility issues and I've also woken up in a puddle of blood and I've had a miscarriage at the house by myself where she's like, listen, like I've been down this path. It's like, I like, don't accuse me of being insensitive. So she's also like, I woke up, I mean, I woke up in a puddle and it was from a miscarriage.

1:21:10Ronnie Karam: So that's why I was thinking of a miscarriage. Yeah. Yeah, which I think makes sense. So K. Michelle was like, well, I was caught off guard because I was thinking this was a safe space. And she goes, well, it was. I mean, let's just be clear. It was definitely a safe space. Well, it didn't feel like a safe space because I was so uncomfortable. And she's like, well, the last thing I had on my mind is that you were dealing with this. You know, like maybe I shouldn't have said that. Like, I'm sorry you took that to be insensitive, but that wasn't my intention. and so Portia's like I would never make a dig about miscarriages because I represent the march of dimes and dimes find it very hard to walk in unison so I would never come at anybody for that and K.

1:21:55Michelle's like well I don't care if you had the same issues in life the fact that you take something as sensitive as a miscarriage when you know I'm trying to have a baby your behavior was not appropriate so K. Michelle's like you will never have to think that I'm not going to talk to you about it even if I act out a certain way or something bad I say. Like in the South we say the word bitch and I say bimbo because I was fucking mad at you. She's like oh I was the bimbo? She's like so

1:22:21Ronnie Karam: wait a minute that was me? She goes yeah I said this bimbo's all loud and I said that. She goes girl. She goes I was bothered.

1:22:30So Portia's like wow bimbo bimbo's loud. I mean she's like that's so country of her. But But she's like, but we're going to have to reel this relationship back. Okay. So Portia is like, I am a very genuine person. And maybe the representation I had of you and me and Kelly probably wasn't the best. She's like, no, I mean that big titted woman, whatever she said. So Kay Michelle says, like, look, I can't, I'm not going to get in your business. I don't ever want anything that I regret because I'm, you know, I'm a reformed crash out.

1:23:03Ronnie Karam: And they laugh. She's like, me too. So Portia's like, well, I commend you for today because this is how you start to do some sisterhood shit. Okay. Don't like, let's talk about it. Don't go meet this girl and then say she felt this way. And then this girl, she goes, oh, but I didn't do that. I was pissed. I called you a bimbo to everybody already. She's like, oh, my God. Tease. So everything seems like it's fine. They laugh and it seems like it's all, you know, like hashed out. Okay, Michelle is not fine. she's like Portia says that she was coming from a place of concern this is absolute bullshit normally with me if you blame me one time it's a wrap for you and I'm done but I've decided to give her every benefit of the doubt that I can find in every corner meaning it still is a wrap there's nothing about it that sounds like you're still going to give her benefit of the doubt yeah so god I hope this doesn't become an entire season of fighting about miscarriage intentions because that's sad.

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