#3323 RHORI S1E04: Pizza Chip on the Shoulder

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1:02Watch what happens when there's so much that happens. Watch what happens when there's so much that happens.

1:30Ben Mandelker: than Ronnie Karam. Hi, Ronnie. How are you? Fuck you.

1:33Ronnie Karam: How dare you? How dare you? Welcome to Rhode Island, bitch. Yeah, a snake and a troll. I don't like snakes and trolls. You know what? I love you. I love you. He has a pizza chip. Have a pizza chip. The pizza chip.

1:47Ben Mandelker: I can't wait to get to the pizza chip portion of this. I'm so excited. Really excited about this pizza chip situation. Welcome, everyone, to Watch What Crappens. We are here today to talk Real Housewives of Rhode Island. island and uh we have our beautiful patreon that you can should come join us for uh patreon.com slash watch what crappens we have bonus episodes a free newsletter that just went up we have ad free listening it's just like anything you could literally ever want in life it's all there all the answers to all your questions in life are just on our patreon so come join uh also if you listen to this in time.

2:27Ben Mandelker: We have crappy hour tonight. That's at 530 on the West coast. And every Monday we do Amazon live. We go on at one 30 and we talk about cool things that we bought recently, um, that we want to recommend to you. So you should really come listen because we have a lot of fun, uh, on there hawking different wares. It's, it's, that's a real delight. That is it. Let's talk about Rhode Island. I love this episode. Actually. I've, you know, I, I haven't been quite at the same level of enthusiasm as a lot of people on Rhode Island have been. That's not a negative. I've been really enjoying it, but people have been like, oh my God, this show's amazing.

3:04Ben Mandelker: But for me, it's been a little bit more of a slow burn, but I feel like the show is really starting to come together. I'm feeling like the cast is starting to gel nicely, and I was just cracking up through so much of this. So I was a fan. I was a fan. What did you think?

3:21Ronnie Karam: I think the aunties need the show. The aunties need to be on the show. That is the show for me. Every time, every time they're on, I'm like, this is it. This is the show. I like the show. I think it's pretty good. I'm still, I'm still very confused about what's going on through a lot of it, but I've started to Google and then I've realized I'm, I'm confused because they're all in the mafia and that's why they're not able to talk about anything. So that made it more fun. I mean, I kind of knew there were mafia rumors, but I didn't realize it was like the, the cast, the cast is, it's like mob wives.

3:53Ronnie Karam: It's like a new Mob Wives, which I kind of like.

3:56Ben Mandelker: Yeah, this is like the first time I've been scared to recap a show. Because I'm like, if I say the wrong thing about Dino, I could literally get killed. Like, it might happen. If I get murdered, you guys just know. You guys know where to look.

4:11Ronnie Karam: I've always had a feeling I'm going to get taken out by someone I'm talking shit about on this podcast. And I would much prefer it to be someone like Kyle Richards. you know like just make someone that crazy that they finally kill you or whatever so i wouldn't be psyched if it was dino but i would figure i mean i knew this was coming like when i saw that gun being pointed at me i'd be like oh god really in a sabaro i know you know god sound going i would

4:39Ben Mandelker: you know if i i'm with you like if if i'm gonna get murdered by someone that i talk about one of these shows i want it to be high profile i want to be like like a rageful tamra judge you know that's like headlines for a year. But if it's Dino, it'll be like an oddly enough, oddly enough, a local Rhode Island man killed a podcaster. I'm like, I don't want to be in the audience.

5:03Ronnie Karam: Yeah, I want a bigger story. Yeah, totally. I want a much bigger story. So, we start with Alicia. She's with her husband, Bill, at Pizza Baba. And she's like, go into the beach. So I want to get some pizza. You know, I think we should talk about maybe doing like red t-shirts and black t-shirts you know right because like white gets dirty right girls and the girls behind the register like oh yeah oh my god yeah white gets dirty so easily you're so smart alicia you deserve half of this business yeah this was like her shark tank moment when they're like look at her

5:34Ben Mandelker: look at that look at her innovations this is what i give to my husband's business white shirts get dirty but that being said i will always remember dare i invoke this uh i was a big apprentice fan back in the day. And I remember one time they had a challenge, um, like a hotel challenge and they like, uh, they had to like redesign chef uniforms. And I remember Ivanka Trump one time as the, you know, judicious consultant to her father was like, why did you change? Why, why did you decide not to use white as the fabric? Because the reason why we use white for these sorts of things is that they bleach really easily.

6:12Ben Mandelker: And so you can clean them and get the stains out like a breeze. And I at that time thinking that Ivanka Trump is so smart. Like I can't believe Ivanka thought of that. It's amazing. She is so bright. Meanwhile, there's probably a producer in her ear saying, Ivanka, could you please bring up this point and telling her what to say? But either way, I've always remembered Ivanka Trump saying that with these sort of things, white is actually the better fabric because you can bleach it and clean it very easily.

6:37Ronnie Karam: And it's, isn't that crazy? And then all these years later, her father is still saying, why does better, why does better every Every second he gets the chance. He really took it to heart. He really did. I remember those days back when you had Ivanka posters in your room and stuff.

6:52Ben Mandelker: I loved Ivanka back then. You loved her. Before I knew what was going to happen.

6:57Ronnie Karam: That was right when car wrapping came out and you had your Toyota wrapped with an Ivanka face. Number one Ivanka fan.

7:05Ben Mandelker: But the irony, though, is that we've seen plenty of chefs wearing black.

7:09Ronnie Karam: Used to be like, hey, I made some cookies. Ivanka cookie? I'm like okay It's getting to be a little bit much It was too much Too much

7:22Ben Mandelker: Yeah but anyway I'm sorry to evoke Ivanka But let's be honest We know where Alicia voted so she's probably very happy About this so anyway She's innovating at the Pizza Mama And then we go to Rula's house Rula Rula's putting out a chair in the backyard She's like, it's really fun watching you guys work. And she's talking to her kids because the kids are like asking for some money. And one of the kids. You owe me 50 bucks for doing work, mama. You owe me 50 bucks. So. Oh, go ahead. I was going to say one kid is like, I get 92, 2 ,000 million and a hundred dollars. You know, which is considered a real monetary amount on this show, I think.

8:07Ben Mandelker: Well, what can you do? She deserves$90 ,002 ,045. That's a real number.

8:14Ronnie Karam: Bill's like, yeah, get this cleaned up. My mistress is coming over later to take a picture by that banister. Get it dusted. We'll talk about this in crappy hour, but that shit was crazy. So after the episode last week, it came out that the mistress posted a picture on her Instagram of herself at Rula's house in front of the banister with the same neighbor in back. So it was very obviously her house. Like she did it on purpose to out herself as the mistress. And then Bill sued her because apparently he had her sign an NDA when he started fucking her. I mean, that is a slime ball. I mean, if your husband is putting that much thought into having an affair, that's crazy.

8:54Ronnie Karam: He's like, all right, I'm going to fuck you to us. But first signed this NDA. So he's suing her for breaking the NDA. Stick around. Very classy guy. Super classy.

9:03Ben Mandelker: This guy is garbage. Yeah. That's someone. there's no one more appropriate to put their foot in their mouth than a podiatrist. Give me another DeBrowim shot on that one. There we go.

9:15Ronnie Karam: Let's go to Joellen's house. Joellen is packing. She's going for a work trip. She's like, Gar, I'm going to need help bringing my suitcase down. I'm just trying to think of everything I need because I'm a little nervous about this trip. I love working. I love working. I'm going to Chicago. It's my media sales. Honestly, when I'm on my work trips, it's not that relaxing. It's nonstop, back to back. I like working. I could stay at home. You know, chores are not for me. I can go to sleep with dishes in the sink. There, I said it. I said it.

9:44Ben Mandelker: It's like, okay. It was like a whirlwind Joellen monologue about chores. And we're out of the scene already. And now we go to Liz's house. Liz is wearing some crazy bathing suit top thing or whatever, where it's like, it just comes in. It's like a weird, it's like an isthmus of fabric across her stomach.

10:03Ronnie Karam: Like Liz's fashion is amazing on this show. It's great. It's so tacky. It's her. The fashion ones to just laugh at every week are her and Rosie. Rosie looks insane. I don't even know what the fuck she's wearing. But Liz, like in one, she has a snake. And it's not just like a diamond snake. It's like a huge stuffed diamond snake that's like coming off of her shirt and about to eat her face. Then she's wearing one, like the flowery dress that she wears. Looks like one of those things when you get on a roller coaster and you pull down the bars. and it's like it's like that but it's all flowers i mean she they're dressed so crazy on this show

10:37Ben Mandelker: it cracks me up rosie looks like someone who was on a shipwreck and washed up on a remote island and the locals who saved her she had to she had to tell them that she was a rhythmic gymnast in order for them not to persecute her and so then they were so excited that they sewed her outfits for their local rhythmic gymnastics competitions and she has to just go on with the with the ruse like that's what I think her her fashion style looks like and she debuted a new one tonight

11:04Ronnie Karam: that was all like different colored glass like sea glass or something like yeah I mean it's crazy

11:11Ben Mandelker: going off the side of her arm it doesn't make it and the thing is it's like her vibe is kind of like that's stupid why would you do that that's stupid she's stupid look at those old people weird people that's stupid so you would think she would look at some of these fashions be like that's stupid. Why would I wear that? But instead I think she sees like a pink feather and is like, I want it. Put it all around

11:32Ronnie Karam: my breast. That's me. That pink feather. Put it on me. Get it on. Get a glue gun. Get a glue gun over here. So Liz, Dolores is coming to Liz's house and Liz says, hello, I'll do a sight for sore eyes. Take your sight for sore eyes. We have the same eyes. The same eyes. Yeah. Hey, you want some on Jerry's Benaz?

11:54Ben Mandelker: And we see there's this enormous bowl of bananas. This looks like a trophy that Donkey Kong would win. We see it and look. Does he eat that many bananas? Nah, he ordered six bananas yesterday to be delivered. That's what came. We literally went onto Instacart and hit six on the bananas thinking he would get six individual bananas and got six bundles of bananas.

12:17Ronnie Karam: When you ask a man to do a woman's job, am I right? I asked my guy to help me flip a house once, not a pebble tile. Not one pebble tile in the whole place.

12:30Ben Mandelker: Let's do a little save ceremony. So they're going to do a sage ceremony to sage out the fighting. And at some point in the middle of this, I just want to point out, Liz makes a little iced coffee thing. She clearly poured some Trader Joe's iced coffee over some ice in a glass, and she hands it to Dolores, and Dolores goes, this is beautiful, thank you. I just cracked up. It was like some average, like, milky-looking beverage. This is beautiful. It's beautiful. Thank you so much. Absolutely beautiful. I'll never betray you. Well, you know, I gotta save the place because Joellen got down my throat here the other night.

13:09We've gotta take care of them.

13:12Ronnie Karam: And so we see a flashback to Joellen being like, oh, you don't want to admit it? You don't want to admit it? And we're just saying, he's not having an affair, okay? And now we're back. and Dolores is saying, well, you know, she's hanging on her husband with every last thing she has. She loves him. And here comes Joellen over here. Have you met my husband? I don't think you have. Hi. I just felt so bad for her, you know? And then I got a little bit upset. I got a little bit upset. Yeah, but at the end of the day, you get nothing for nothing from me. And if it's over, I don't know why she's wide-knuckling so much.

13:44And Liz tells us, Woola is the boss at work. However, I don't know how much she is as a wife, but the constant denial of running away from it or pointing the finger somewhere else, it's only going to make it faster more.

14:03So Liz is like, you know, I played the latter part of denial over and over in my head, and I'm disgusted by my reaction. Disgusted by myself. I came across as a better drunken witch. That's how I came across

14:19Ronnie Karam: That was a menopause moment That's what we call a menopause moment Yeah Combination of that and I drank too much I just lost my shit plus all these fucking bananas In the house how could you even keep a sitting in mind You know what I'm saying Cut to Liz being like you fake ass bitch Fuck you Kelsey Fuck off Kelsey Alright You know because with Kelsey I felt like She co-signed on a lie To avoid her own issues with this person that she didn't want out. Because I didn't know if it was dating, but it was hooking up. But Kelsey and Dino, for a brief moment, was a romantic relationship. Not what I had.

15:00Okay, radically different from what I had. But, like, you know, people made it seem like we had some type of torn affair. Like, we didn't have that.

15:09Ronnie Karam: And then we see a flashback to this non-Torrid affair. And she's like, I just want to go down to the seawall with Jerry and Dino. That's it. I gotta go to the seawall. You're starting this shit with me when I want to go to the seawall.

15:23Ben Mandelker: But I think because of the ongoing, you know. Ongoing? What's this ongoing? Seawall. It's just a fucking seawall. You can't constantly go to the seawall with your husband who only comes around three days a year. The guy you spend the rest of your time with. You can't do that no more. Goodbye. Goodbye. goodbye goodbye self-sacalcy speaking of the ongoing you know it was nothing and i hate the word ongoing as you might have noticed you know and something that she knew truly affected me it was triggering to me it was triggering that's it here you go here's your iced coffee and i also made a food salad oh yeah oh this is beautiful this is beautiful you know what this is almost as good as riding in the same car with someone my loyalty for life is what you have

16:14Ronnie Karam: Do you still trust Kelsey? That might take a minute Deloitte Because you know what It's not every day you have some bitch Come up to you and say I'm going It is One of the most vile Words in the English language I'm going Okay Terrible I hate the C word Cut fitness? I'm going I hate it. Horrible word. It's a C word because you only say it by the C. Anyway. You only say it when you're on your way to the seawall.

16:55Ben Mandelker: Well, you know what? Was it handled wrong? Yes. You owe an apology? Yes, you do. And she has to decide about moving on. And you want to move on from this fruit salad. Absolutely delicious. Especially with the swiced coffee. It's like, I feel like she owes me that too, though. I feel like she owes me that too. Liz does this thing when she's pissed. She smiles really broadly. And later on in the episode, she's questioning why people are intimidated by her. It's like, because you have the scariest smile on Bravo, because the more you smile, the more we see how furious you are at someone. And it's a terrifying thing.

17:31Ben Mandelker: When someone is really angry, but they smile at you when they're angry, it's a really, really scary thing.

17:38Ronnie Karam: Yeah, she's got that down for sure. It's time for a commercial.

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19:51Ronnie Karam: The new season of Vanderpump Villa is now streaming on Hulu, and it has never been better. so now we go with rosie rosie and alicia at the beach and they're like oh my god you're so cute we're going to miami and i'm like what why are you so cute she's like oh my god we're going to the beach and i know you only go to your country club we know alicia she's like yeah i didn't trust the beach because i only go to my country club we just i just said that yeah because there's a beach club there it's amazing it's a beach club it's a beach club it's the only place i got

20:22Ben Mandelker: Ashley's like, guys, this is my favorite beach. It's the only beach in Rhode Island where you cannot hear my husband prepare a coffee for someone. Joyce, we got a cappuccino ready. Damn it.

20:36Ronnie Karam: All right, you guys go first because I don't know what to do. I don't know what to do. It's like a beach. I don't know. It's like sand to stairs. It's not like this at the country club. It's not like it. It's different.

20:45Ben Mandelker: Ashley goes, see, I take my kids here because look, no riptide. It's like no undercurrent. and like there's also no charisma it's like it's like this like dark brown sand and like just it's like it's like going to the lake it's like a sad lake but it's a beach form and they're all just totally unimpressed it's like also like a public beach that's you know full of you know normal people so of course alicia's like oh my god what about i hope they didn't bring any pizza chips because this is disgusting all those people over there these girls they seem a bit more like a

21:16Ronnie Karam: country club bunch like they're showing up with their designer bags and stuff they look like malibu barbie and me ashley like i look like a mom that maybe like tried a little bit today wacky new girl to housewives this is your favorite beach what the fuck i belong to a beautiful beach club please come come with me carry a chair my purse and then snacks it's like too much too much to do. I don't know. I'd rather be a pizza mama. They go down and set up on the sand, but they set themselves up facing away from the water, which is hilarious.

21:52Ben Mandelker: They probably have to, like, they can't have the camera people in the water because it's probably a liability with the equipment, but it is hilarious that they're facing away from the beach. And I guess it's also more cinematic to be able to see the ocean. Yeah, like, they go to the beach and then sit away from the water.

22:08Ronnie Karam: Okay, listen, we've already got one Housewives that's primarily focused on scenes taking place in parking lots. And you're not real housewives of Salt Lake City level yet.

22:17Ben Mandelker: And Bravo is really trying to push the maritime element of the show. So they're like, we must have that ocean in the background, which honestly, I don't mind. It is really a very maritime show. Like at Liz's house, you just see the ocean just in the background the entire time. Like this is like a very, there's something like very pleasant about how this show looks. You know, everything's because of lighthouses and waves and seagulls and mafia. It's just lovely.

22:44Ronnie Karam: But it's all very like cheddar biscuits. Like, it's very seafood restaurant. That makes any sense. Like even this, like, oh my God, look at us. This is the most gorgeous beach in town. And it's like a parking lot with a puddle. Like, wow, isn't this amazing?

22:59Ben Mandelker: This, I mean, let's face it. Real Housewives of Rhode Island is for the seafood lover in you. Yep.

23:05Ronnie Karam: So guess what? Guess what, guys? Guess what? At least you're here. I brought pizza chips there. I said it, you know? And that's like, I've never even heard of a pizza chip. What is that? Do you make it with the steamer? No, no. My grandfather, he was the first one to do it here. Like he had a bakery called Superior Bakery because it was pretty good. And you know what? Like pizza chips are like, it's red sauce. It's not actual cheese. It's not like regular pizza, but it's lighter. You know, it's lighter. People like bring it to the beach. I love pizza chips.

23:32Ben Mandelker: I love Alicia. Her distinguishing feature is that there's no cheese. She's like, yeah, the pizza chips, just red. There's no cheese. There's no cheese on this pizza. It's just, it's just, it's red sauce. I'm like, you don't have to tell me like, oh, but there's no cheese. You have to tell me, oh, but it's not a chip. Cause it's like a big, like round of bread. It looks like a, I don't remember, but it's like a, it's like a super thick pita. Yeah. Like a thick, yeah. Like a pita or biali that's covered with like a tomato sauce that's been cooked down. So it almost looks like a tomato paste. I don't understand why they're called chips.

24:07Ronnie Karam: That shit looks nasty. And they're not chips and they're not pizza. They're neither of those. I agree. Why are you calling them pizza chips?

24:16Ben Mandelker: I want one so badly. Because, of course, you know I stopped the show and then spent 15 minutes online looking at pizza chips. They can also be called pizza strips. They can also be called pizza strips if they have a sort of long shape. And everyone online is like, oh, my God, these are so good. the ratio of how they look to how they taste is like the, there's the farthest gap than any other food. Like they look so stupid and they taste so good. So now I desperately want a pizza chip. And also I'm like sad that we never had a top chef, uh, Rhode Island because you know, there would have been like a Padme challenge.

24:54Ben Mandelker: Chefs, since we're here in Rhode Island, please welcome my dear friend, the president of Rhode Island to talk about a local delicacy called the pizza chip. Now, one thing you may not know about these. Yes, the residents do like to eat them, but they're also great for throwing at Gail's face. Let's all do it together.

25:14Ronnie Karam: In Los Angeles, pizza chips, thin crispy oven baked dough topped with marinara and mozzarella. Okay, you've already got it wrong, Google. So, whatever. So, Ashley, so Alicia's like, in the summer, go to the beach as a kid. You have cheese in the sun. It's sitting there. You know what I mean? You just don't. You don't. You don't want cheese sitting in the sun. No one wants melted cheese on a pizza. like no one wants that

25:38Ben Mandelker: the cheese just sitting there I mean if you bring pizza to the beach I mean I just feel like the pizza won't last long enough to

25:47Ronnie Karam: be crappy in the sun right I would just eat all the pizza but you know what will last pizza chips guaranteed so Ashley's like um I mean they think it's great but I'm like who wears the cheese on my pizza you know because like who wants a pizza without cheese

26:04Ben Mandelker: it's like a house without a personality Ashley. So Rosie is like, you guys, Rosie says this sentence that you can barely understand because of her accent and maybe she has a pizza chip in her mouth. She's like, you guys, I want to invite you all. You, me, and Ashley are going to Rail Explorers. I was like, what'd she say? Rail Explorers. What? Rail Explorers. But they all understood what she meant. They're like, oh, so cute. Yeah. Rail Exploders. It's called Rail Explorers.

26:31Ronnie Karam: We're going to do that and then we're going to have a bonfire and we're going to do everything thing you guys explore rails go on a bonfire don't worry we're gonna go from one public park to another public park basically is what i'm saying yeah for this episode rail explorers is also um

26:48Ben Mandelker: what jacks taylor used to call his group of friends so rosie is like i love rose i love rail explorers i'm kind of obsessed with it i think it's such a fun activity also the views are amazing and it's such a beautiful it's so beautiful i don't know ocean scape seascape but that's okay well like whatever you call it but i think everybody will have fun doing something active like maybe we won't fight each other you know it'll be great all right we we said relics

27:17Ronnie Karam: balls five times is that how many times we had to say it okay let's talk now let's talk now did you have a pizza chip okay let's talk about the party like i've been dying i've been waiting i've been

27:26Ben Mandelker: waiting dying waiting my god i know hi ashley here i need some clarification why is rula mad at joellen

27:35Ronnie Karam: well rula feels like she's getting involved in her marriage what were you gonna say ashley pay

27:40Ben Mandelker: attention to your own show how do you not know why rula is mad at joellen it's like the biggest

27:44Ronnie Karam: reason ever everybody knows okay ashley's like i don't even these women are so crazy i don't even know what their Instagram handles are.

27:52Ben Mandelker: Yeah. I think Ashley's really trying to be the voice of the people. Like, aren't these people crazy? But instead, she's just coming off like a twit. So Rosie is like, well, Rula feels like she's getting involved in her marriage. It's like, you know, I never knew this until recently. You know what? Rula met Brian while he was married to my Spanish teacher.

28:13Ronnie Karam: I'm like, what? It's like, yeah. This is so funny. I love Alicia. No one can make me hate her. Lil' M. Brian Willie was married to my Spanish teacher.

28:24Ben Mandelker: So he's a cheater, basically? Yeah, but he doesn't look like a cheater. Let's be honest. He literally looks like a cheater. You look at him and say, that man is cheating on his wife.

28:35Ronnie Karam: Yeah, he doesn't look like a cheater. He's just so hot. Only ugly people cheat? Oh, Ashley. She says, no, he's not very hot. Oh, okay. That makes more sense. I was going to say, you're in for a surprise. Your husband, who's at his coffee bar Audrey's at midnight checking the ice machine. So Alicia says, well, I don't know if it's true, but like Rela's husband cheated on his first wife, my Spanish teacher, with Rula. I hope that's not true, because like I really did love my Spanish teacher.

29:07Ben Mandelker: Alicia's like, Alex had to go to her high school reunion and like reunite with her Spanish teacher and she's like, I don't know if I can do that anymore. So Rosie, I just feel so bad for her. So Rosie says, okay, enough about Rula and her weirdo husband. Me and Alicia have been dying to know what happened on Saturday. So Ashley's like, is Liz not here for a reason? And Rosie goes, yeah, I've been waiting for this all day because I didn't want to attack you with it. But I'm about to climax, by the way. Now it's me, Alicia talking. I'm about to climax. I need to know what happened. Come on, tell me what happened.

29:44Ronnie Karam: So Kelsey says, you know, I just said, how you doing? and she says, I want a moment with Dino and my husband. And I said, I didn't want that because of Dino's ongoing. And before I even stopped, she fucking booked it, you know? And she said, ongoing, ongoing, nothing ongoing, seawall, seawall, ongoing. And then she ran upstairs. So I followed her because what else do you do? What I meant by ongoing was that there's rumors about them having an affair and I thought she should distance herself from him because people are talking about her, spreading lies and things that aren't necessarily true. So, geez, sorry.

30:17Ben Mandelker: do you think on some level Kelsey was also saying um he's like a connected guy and you're on tv now

30:25Ronnie Karam: and maybe you shouldn't be seen it sounds like what Kelsey says to her later when they have the conversation is I was with this guy I did have an affair with this guy and he was abusive and he's a fucking killer in the mafia so watch out is what it sounded like she's saying later and Liz is like okay well you're allowed to have your experiences and I'm allowed to have my experiences and that's just like are you not hearing me yeah

30:54Ben Mandelker: so Rose is like so what was she saying upstairs what was she saying and Kels goes oh you know she's saying fuck you you're fake what what did she say she's like yeah she probably said it 86 million times in my brain I'm like god Did I just like dead myself with the rest of my relationship with Liz? So Kelsey's like, I mean, you just don't want to be under her wrath.

31:17Ronnie Karam: Yeah, but you know what? She's been like that her whole life though. Like the people that we hung out with and grew up with, they were like regular happy, go lucky. Like we're for the same cut, you know? Like we fought the same type of cloth. Does that make sense? Like, how do we say it? You're cut from the same cloth? Yeah, yeah. We're cut from the same cloth. You know, like I come off softer, happier, you know? But, you know, get me behind a wheel and walk in front of my car. you know but we all do have like we do walk on x-shows about her it's true me including because you know why because she's no bullshit you know i i even get scared of her and i don't get scared of anybody you know except you know people at crosswalks because they'll sue you they'll sue

31:51Ben Mandelker: yeah i don't like doing that no bridges for me i will not i couldn't even watch the bridges of madison county i was like what if there's women there i don't want to run over someone else in the movies then we go to joellen's house but joellen is not there jan her sister is there doing laundry for Gary because he's not able to fold clothing.

32:10Ronnie Karam: And he's been gone one day and he already has a full, I mean, I guess they have kids and stuff, but still. And this sister is fucking your husband, by the way. She's like, oh, hi. Just here taking care of your kids and doing your husband's laundry. Hope you're having fun on your work trip, loser.

32:27Ben Mandelker: Yeah. And so they have like this whole banter, you know, and Joellen's like, I really appreciate that Jen comes over when I'm out of town to help out with my kids. And she's like, Gary, found a pair of your underwear. Ted Baker.

32:44Ronnie Karam: How'd they smell? They tasted great. Oh, God. She perpetuates this fun little game of flirting with my husband, but I don't take offense. I mean, I know there's nothing going on. She loves Gary so much as a brother, as a friend. They've never had sex. Like maybe he touched her boobs in high school. You know, keep it in the family kind of thing. Yeah, because he dated her first. So, yeah, I think she's already tasted. She's already tasted this guy.

33:09Ben Mandelker: Yeah. So Gary's like, yeah, it's super nice that you come to help out when she's not here, though. Because like that takes a huge load off my shoulders of doing the nothing that I do.

33:19Ronnie Karam: Sorry, did I say shoulders? I meant nuts.

33:26Ronnie Karam: So she's like, oh, my God, don't we have a happy marriage? And the sister's like, I'm fucking your husband. Jen's. Yeah. She's like,

33:33Ben Mandelker: Oh, I'm about to say, we see like a flashback of them in a sauna and Jen's like, if I'm going to be 45 years old and I don't have kids yet, I'm just going to use Gary's. And then he like winks at her.

33:43Ronnie Karam: She's like, yeah, you're not using my husband's sperm for kids. Okay. She's like, can Gary give me sperm? I said, he's not giving you a sperm. What's wrong with you? What's wrong with you?

33:53Ben Mandelker: Okay. Maybe a few sperms. You know, she can have a few sperms, but you know what? He, she's not going to be the one to jerk him off to get the sperms out of She could put a finger in. She could put a finger in. I'll do the rest. That's it. That's all she gets.

34:04Ronnie Karam: Finger. So, yeah, she calls and they have this nice scene of like, oh, my God, it's the kids. And Joellen goes, wow, she's really helping out a lot around there. Howell goes, yeah, laundry, cleaning, cooking, bowl emptying. What didn't I do? What didn't I do? Am I right, Garrett?

34:23Ben Mandelker: My relationship with Jen, as we were growing up, like we were like not close. We would fight a lot. And then she would like lock me in the house in a towel. And then Jen and I got close right after my father passed away. And it was like 2010. And then like after then she would like let me back in the house with a towel. And like we became friends. So like I'm thankful and I'm appreciative of her. And I finally like understand what a best friend a sister is. You know, because as a best friend, it's my favorite thing to do is to dangle the man that got away from her in front of her face knowing that she can never have him again.

34:49Ben Mandelker: So anyway, we're really close now.

34:51Ronnie Karam: Okay, well, I'd love you, sister. Have a safe flight. I'm fucking your husband. Okay, you're hilarious. You're hilarious. Okay, put your tar back on. Put your tar. Okay, call me back. Call me back.

35:03Ben Mandelker: Bye. So now we go to Alicia's and she's fixing pool furniture. She's like, oh, God, this is dirty. And that's disgusting over there. Oh, God, that's awful. That's disgusting. And then in come the aunties, Sandra first. And she's like, Alicia, we're here. Where is she? Where's that Alicia? And then in comes Sharon. Oh, God. I hope you guys are hungry because there's lots of food. You thought you had a lot of pizza chips before. Guess what? Got a stack of them. This one's got marinara on it. That one, oh wait, but this batch here? This also's got marinara. What about your batch over there? Mine got marinara on them.

35:37Hey, you got a straw? I want to drink some marinara. Alright?

35:42Ronnie Karam: And Alicia's like, wow, you know, spending time with my family is like da-da, da-da, da-da. You know, there's like so much going on, you can't. It's like overwhelming. My grandpa, my grandfather, he opened up Superior Bakery. It was great. Everybody loved it. We know Alicia. For fuck's sake. Is this all Alicia says? She said this 30 times. Superior Bakery. Superior Bakery. Yeah, it was good. And then he has some pizza restaurants. He was well-known all over Rhode Island. My aunts, they like work with my grandfather. They make the dough behind the, you know, everyone in Cranston would make fun of the Cicerone girls because they weren't really good at working.

36:12Ronnie Karam: But, you know, my grandfather was always stressed out yelling at him, but he was just dishing out that money. I love that all these aunts were like dough makers. They could never do it. I know.

36:22Ben Mandelker: Hey, Ma, you going to go swimming? She's like, oh, no, Alicia, we're too old for that. I mean, Bill would end up vomiting, okay? So then Billy comes in. He's like, hey, everyone. Oh, wow. This is like food for like 75 people. You girls are all on diets and never even eat. She's like, yeah, that's true. So then Liz comes over. And I was like, Liz. She's like the norm of this family. Liz. Alicia's family, I love them. They're fun to be around. You know, they're all right. My sister and Alicia's mom, they're best friends. And when we first met her, I was like six or eight years old. I don't know.

36:54But like, oh, good. I like them. I'm so happy. I love it here. You know what? I love being here with you ladies because it's always so happy.

37:03Ronnie Karam: Yeah, yesterday I had a colonoscopy. Ma, TMI. I almost didn't make it today. I almost didn't make it today. Imagine yourself with a fist the size of Gibraltar going up your hoot. Alicia's mom and her sisters, they're blunt. They'll tell you anything. Once you meet him, you never forget him.

37:27Ben Mandelker: So then Rula shows up and she's like, hello. Hello, everyone. It's Rula. My family's actually known Billy's Daily. I don't know his family for like, I don't know, I'd say 30 years. We've patronized. I think that's the right word. His restaurants and then his family's used a jewelry store. It's all very interconnected. Isn't that a great story?

37:45Ronnie Karam: We're patrons. They're patrons. That's how we all connect. So now Ashley comes over and hugs everyone. She's like, I've never been with a lady in a group environment without Rosie, so I don't have my emotional support animal. But I've heard so much about these ladies. I'm sure it's going to be great.

38:04Ben Mandelker: And my esthetician does, Anita and her mom and her aunts, they all go to my esthetician. So I guess I'm sort of connected, too. I guess I'm part of the family, right? I mean, they all go in together because one of them doesn't drive. It's just like Alicia.

38:17Ronnie Karam: This is like my big fat Greek wedding, but you guys are a talent. No, she didn't just call us Greek. You know what? Should we forgive her for that one? Fuck.

38:25Ben Mandelker: All right. Don't give her a pizza chip. Okay, she doesn't deserve it. This recipe comes from Superior Bakery. Oh, yeah. Did you guys know that, like, we had Superior Bakery? Yeah.

38:35Ronnie Karam: My grandfather had Superior Bakery. Everybody in Rhode Island knows him. Everybody loves him. And Ashley's like, yeah, you know, like, and Bill, you know, like, everyone wants them to get married. And she's like, yeah, I like Billy so much. And Liz is like, yeah, as much as I love him, I want to be like, what are you doing? Like, make it right. Make it right, Bill. And so we see a flashback to Alicia saying, I went to the lawyers and they said, you know what? He's not leaving you with any money, not a penny, nothing. You know, he wouldn't even put my name on the house. So they're all shocked about this.

39:08Ben Mandelker: Ashley's just like, he won't like put your name on the house? She's like, this is jointly yours. I mean, like absolutely no negotiation there. This is where you raise your daughter together. This is where you make caramel macchiatos. This is where you fix ice machines. This is where you tell Joyce that her cappuccino is ready. Yeah, this is pretty crazy. Ashley, this is crazy. How do you not like, like, how do you, like, if she says she wants to have her name on that house, her name should be on that house. You guys are in a committed relationship and you're raising your child there. Yeah.

39:38Ronnie Karam: And I don't know what the laws are there, like with common law marriage and stuff like that. but I would suggest she leaves him now divorces him or she can't divorce him but leave him sue him for half of everything child support and all of that stuff because the prenup is even worse because then you're signing everything away where at this point I think she would have a claim because it doesn't matter if they're married it's like she helps them with the business they have a kid together whatever but I think if she I think she doesn't want to get married because she's not signing that prenup that's agreeing to get nothing that's crazy so he's like i used to tell her you gotta go to a lawyer it's like not only that pizza mama i mean that's her come on she's the pizza mama here it's like yeah but no one's gonna put a name on a business that if he's not married to you well yeah but then why would i marry him he's not gonna put my name in a business or the house in my name and he's not gonna give me anything sharing i don't know this is like old school advice that's was really bugging me to hear like well you know men cheat that's what men do like why is he gonna marry you don't gotta put you gotta marry him if you want except nothing to get a little you know i've always been a runaway bride

40:52Ben Mandelker: i was always in long-term relationships just about to get engaged like let's look at those rings right before i go you know what i don't think this is my forever okay i don't want to be some spanish teacher that gets cheated on you know i would break up with them and so with billy i like I got the ring and I'm finally engaged. And now I'm still hesitant on getting married because it's like, I think I need more for him. I need him to work at Superior Bakery like my grandfather did. I need to feel more of a commitment before I make my commitment.

41:17Ronnie Karam: And Rua's like, you have to make sure you look out for yourself. I'm not a licensed attorney, but I don't have any charisma. And my financial planning, I understand all this stuff. I get it. Do you understand? Is my face moving at all? Is it at all? Are my eyes blinking right now? I feel like I'm blinking.

41:36Ben Mandelker: I like when she goes, I'm not a licensed attorney, but I work with many. I'm not a doctor, but I play one on TV.

41:45Ronnie Karam: Well, I'm glad she's here to tell you this stuff, honey. Yeah. Cause otherwise the law will dictate and I don't know many dictators, but I've heard of many and I'm all about trust. Okay. I'm all about trust. So Anita says, are you happily married? She goes, I am, but you know, it's never perfect. That makes me so mad when you talk like that It makes me so mad

42:09Ben Mandelker: Yeah, but we all get past any bumps You know, unless there's actual bumps You know where Of course we do Yeah, we get past bumps, honey Yeah, all of us get past bumps They're gonna cheat on you

42:20Ronnie Karam: That's right, there's all guys who will cheat on you What are you gonna do? You're gonna grins and bears it That's what you do, honey You know what, though? Sometimes you can't get past bumps because I had a relationship for many years with my husband.

42:32Ben Mandelker: And then I found out that he wanted. What? He wanted. What did he want? He wanted. He wanted. What did he want? What, it was like a motorboat? No, he wanted. He wanted. Oh, wanted.

42:48Ronnie Karam: Yeah, he wanted. And so he laughed. And we're like, there was an indiscretion. You're in a healthy, loving relationship. Something happens out of the blue. I don't want to cry. I'm crying right now, right? Is my face moving at all? Don't cry, honey. It's all right if you do. We've all cried. We're not here to judge you. Not at all. Cry. Cry. We've all been there.

43:11Ben Mandelker: I'm just having a hard time getting over a lot of the lying and the twisting. Look at me. Look how angry I am. Sorry for yelling so much. Like, okay, let me tell you something, ruler. It's hard to trust again. And this girl is going to be looking over her shoulder. Where is he? He didn't jump for dinner. or he had to go away on a business trip. I'm telling you, you want to live like that for the rest of your life? You may know a lot of licensed attorneys, but do you know licensed attorneys that are looking over their shoulder every single day wondering what's my man doing? What's going on with my man?

43:44Ben Mandelker: Do you want to live with that?

43:45Ronnie Karam: And let me tell you, honey, I did live like that for a while. Mine had affairs with a lot of women, a lot of women. and ruler's like i'm listening but i don't necessarily want to hear all of this that's why i'm blinking so rapidly am i blinking this is a lot about brian that people don't know they haven't seen he's very loving he's a great provider uh you know we also have children he looks like hellboy and the one thing that sticks with me though do you want to spend the rest of your life looking over your shoulder that hits me that's what hit me because it's very difficult to look behind me without a backup camera i would be nothing

44:26Ben Mandelker: the years i just crashed into garbage cans and walls just like you know what i have a feeling you're gonna work really hard and i just hope and pray that you somehow hurt him find the way find the way to hurt that man get that fucking man back yeah get right up his ass just hurt him real hard i'll tell you the

44:53Ronnie Karam: truth i'm gonna pray that you get him back that's what i'm praying honey that's what i'm praying

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47:56Ronnie Karam: So then we go to a petting zoo or something. And Ashley's there with Rosie. and there are just this scene was cracking me up because this scene is basically rosy like yeah you know like he really wants kids i don't really want kids but he really does and there are kids crawling all over ashley sticking their fingers up her nose she's got one over here one over there they're crawling all over she's just trying to nourish like no kids are great you're gonna love kids and if you don't have kids you're gonna wonder why don't you not have kids i mean look at me isn't this great anybody heard from dad anybody nobody okay you know what could you call him from your phone just he'll probably answer if one of the kids calls we're so in love

48:37Ben Mandelker: we're so happy look um just just put in a takeout order for a macchiato he usually responds to that thank you um yeah it was hilarious because rosie was just talking about like yeah like are we gonna have kids i don't really want to have kids because my mom wanted to have like you know my mom wants me to have kids, but I don't want to have kids and I don't want to be controlling that. And the entire time Ashley is really trying to say, she, at one point she says, Oh yeah. Um, you know, I've become my mom where I'm like, Oh, have a kid, have a kid, have a kid. You never know. You're going to love it.

49:07Ben Mandelker: You don't want to wait too long. Cause then you're, you're going to regret it in like five years. So just have the kids now. Don't worry about it. There's nothing about this scene that is serving as a good advertisement for having children. None of this

49:21Ronnie Karam: This is a lure, okay? None of this. And then Rosie at one point goes, Hey, little guy, what does a chicken sound make? Do you know? And, uh, bawk, bawk. Wait, is, is that what they sound like? I think that's a duck. No, she's like, bawk, bawk? No, that's a quack, quack. That ducks are quack, quack. She goes, oh yeah, I have no idea. You know, I haven't been playing with kids toys. I don't know. She goes, yeah, she's definitely not ready to be a mom. I'm kidding. I'm kidding. Oh God. Okay. Yeah. You punched me in the eye. It's okay. It's okay. Like, that's, we're having fun, right?

49:50Ben Mandelker: Do you? And Rosie is trying so hard to, like, have this monologue and express, like, this, you know, situation between her and her man. And the kid just, like, takes Ashley's earring out and throws it. And Rosie's like, I will go get that. And she, like, does not even break from her monologue, which I'm impressed. Because normally it's like, okay, I'm not going to bother talking about anything in my life. Because we're just going to pick up stuff that the kid is throwing down. Because, you know, toddlers love to take things and throw them on the ground. I don't know what joy they get from that.

50:17Ben Mandelker: I don't know what the sensory element of that. Maybe it's a sense of control. I still do not understand. They just love it. They love it. Take it, throw it. Yeah. I still do it all the time. But Rosie's big thing that she was sort of drills down to is that she just, she has a lot of issues with her mom and she felt like her mom was very controlling and critical. And she basically is like, I don't want to do that to my child. And I kind of want to break the pattern. and she sort of ends the scene saying like i just i don't want to mess anyone up and i just wanted to let her know that the truth is no matter what like all parents are going to mess up their children even the best parents so don't worry about it right well and then the ones that you meet who

51:04Ronnie Karam: are like oh my god i had the best childhood nothing bad ever happened to me it was great they're not you know it's not always the best either so like some of us yes you know the pain is sometimes necessary. But Rosie, you know, she is saying all this about the trauma of having a mom who didn't want her and stuff like that. But she also just doesn't want to have kids. She's like, we were trying when we first started dating, like I would just not stop taking my pill and then I would like try. She's like, I know that's fucked up, but I did kind of want a kid and then I just realized, no, I really don't.

51:35Ronnie Karam: I just don't want one. So I think that's a rough age where everybody's like, okay, if you don't do it now, this is it. And you have to make that ultimate decision I mean, if you don't want a kid, don't have a fucking kid. I do suggest having nieces though, that you can guilt into taking care of you when you're old. It fucking sucks though.

51:53Ben Mandelker: Like I, like my, I think it, it sucks so much that all this pressure gets put on women. And it also like when we just watched quad on marriage and medicine, who for years didn't want to have a kid and then decide that she wants to have a kid. And it looks like it may be too late for her to carry a kid. And then the torture that she feels. So I never want to be like, well, you don't want to like be down. You don't want to like find yourself at age 41, 42, and suddenly it's like much harder. So like I never, I want people, if you don't want to have a kid, you should like, no one should make you feel bad for that decision.

52:24Ben Mandelker: And I just think it's such a fucking mind fuck. And I think it's so unfair that this is like,

52:28Ronnie Karam: this is like, I remember a few years ago I was telling my mom, do you think there's something in the food supply? Because like all of my friends are having trouble having babies. And she says, Ronnie, you're in your forties.

52:44Ronnie Karam: like just the things you don't think about as a guy but i can imagine yeah it's got to be rough for women because even as a gay guy people are always like wonnie why aren't you a dad you're so good at kids don't you want to be a dad you can adopt kids you can even use a surrogate you can do what you can have a kid there's a lot of pressure on me i don't even have a boyfriend

53:02Ben Mandelker: ever so yeah yeah we dom and i get it a lot people like you guys want to have kids someday I'm like no I'd like to have brunch but Dom is great with this

53:12Ronnie Karam: I just always say because I like I love having a house cleaner but I don't like live in house cleaners I just want someone to leave

53:21Ben Mandelker: I want to be able to like do things no but I think that I think that child despite the fact that I'm on the record about how much kids drive me nuts I am very paradoxical in that I actually think that like child like raising a child and like all of that I think is actually so wonderful and so amazing. And like, I just think like, it's, it's a great thing, but it's just not something I want to do. You know what? Like, I think probably like being a marathon runner and like being a marathon is probably a wonderful feeling. I'm never going to do it. Never going to touch it. Never going to go near it.

53:57Ben Mandelker: I won't even watch it on TV, honestly.

53:59Ronnie Karam: Yeah, exactly. Yeah. I mean, I look at accountants. I'm like, you guys are working so fucking hard right now. You're doing such a good job. I don't want to do that. Like I can respect you without wanting to have your life you know yeah so rosie is going through all of that and ashley's like well i'm supportive whatever decisions you're making and i really hope this isn't an issue in the long run you know what i mean oh god hold on let me call jared for some jared you they used to love me right jaren jaren it's up now click okay yeah we're doing great

54:29Ben Mandelker: we're doing great um so then we go to liz and her boat uh the boat's called the gypsy spelled g-y-p-s-e-a which feels cringy because i think that that's no longer a phrase we're supposed to be saying and screening that it's like emblazoned on a boat but uh you know what hey i guess this is what they're doing and so liz is uh she's she's calling uh jerry because they sold the boat and she's getting everything off the boat so liz miraculously overnight he sold the boat i'll bet he did after

55:10Ronnie Karam: his little the the mob connected guy selling his boat after being gone three weeks out of a month on his boat i'm sure it has nothing to do with drugs it's like the police called they're coming for the boat. We sold it. Good luck. Suckers. Jerry overnight sold the boat. Miraculously, I think Jerry decided to sell the gypsy because he's had enough and he's had his fill of sport fishing and I love that he's home permanently now. God, we're going to go down that seawall every single day. Wow, maybe Dina will come, but especially with a new baby on the way. Let's be honest. What's he really going to do?

55:50You think he's going to change a diaper? Ha! When Jerry started in spot fishing it took him away three weeks maybe come home three days and go back another three weeks you know you know when they say there's other fish in the sea i guess they really were a lot because it wasn't uncommon for him to be actually called dino and be like hey look take a look keep an eye on her you know look at that so uh yeah he was involved in the whole thing too and that looked a lot like a thing that it wasn't well liz asked me to help her out to clean her

56:20Ronnie Karam: boat, Kelsey comes and she says, I'm nervous walking into this because I don't know where her thought process is. You know, what do I do? So she comes in and they're like, you look pretty. You look pretty. You look pretty. You look pretty. Well, okay. Listen, I'm just going to pull my shit out there. This is how I feel, Kelsey. I'm not proud of my reaction when you said to me. I feel like people ongoing. Alright? I do not like curse words. And, you know, it triggered me. You know, because you were war people, though. There's nothing going on anything. All right? No ongoing nothing. And that's why it was like a gut punch.

56:59Ronnie Karam: Like, you go sign the narrative to make me feel bad, you know? Well, I think when I said it, it's because, like, I had a different experience with Dino. And my instinct was, like, to, you know, try and get you to withdraw. Because my experience wasn't really very good with him. And this does not sound good. And then she tells us she had a weak moment 10 years ago, hooked up with Dino. She and her boyfriend weren't exclusively dating. Kelsey just cheats on everybody, by the way we're learning now.

57:34Ben Mandelker: By the way, when she said me and my boyfriend weren't exclusively dating, I hate to break it to you. You're still not exclusively dating. That's what I mean.

57:42Ronnie Karam: She's never, yeah. She's just always got something. And so she says she wasn't getting attention. So she started dating Dino and Dino filled the void and she was weak and vulnerable and unhappy. And then she tried to distance herself. But the more she the more she hated him and said, get out of my life. It's like he loved that. And then he's like, oh, now you want me out. OK, well, I'm going to show up more. So he was stalking you, basically, is what you're saying.

58:10Ben Mandelker: That's really scary, especially because he's like a connected guy. Allegedly. this is like a very she gave a very nice spin to what really sounds like a very scary situation you know I think that she's like yeah I'm not gonna say you're 20 years old this guy this

58:29Ronnie Karam: older man comes with all this money and then the minute you tell him no he gets obsessed with you and won't leave you alone yeah sounds pretty scary that's terrifying

58:40Ben Mandelker: terrifying yeah um but you know what Dino seems like a great guy a really great guy and yeah so wonderful we love Dino he is a hero and please don't murder us thank you so Kelsey is like I appreciate his friendship to you and how he took care of you but I didn't have that same experience I have like PTSD over it and Liz is like yeah I get that babe we had vastly different experiences and I know you want nothing to do with that I understand it but you said the word ongoing so like unfortunately everything that you experience gets thrown out the window, okay? Because I'm going. God, I don't want to say the O word again.

59:17Oh, God. I'm going. Oh, I get it. I'm boarding up on my little sis. Now, will you help me move the rest of my shit stuff to this fucking boat so we can all move on? I want to get to the sea wall. I want to do that.

59:32Ben Mandelker: So now everyone's going to arrive at a parking lot to get on to, basically to travel to this rail explorer place. They're all at this parking lot. I don't know why. They all show up and Rosie opens all their doors. She's like, Hi! Welcome to the parking lot. We're here. You made it. We're in the parking lot. So they're all arriving and Rosie is like, So in the famous words of Elle Woods, working out gives you endorphins. Endorphins make you happy and happy people don't kill their husbands. So maybe if we just cycle a little bit, we can just have a great day and nobody wants to kill each other.

1:00:15Ronnie Karam: So basically, Joellen's away from work and is away for work and Rula is super excited. She's like, look at me. I'm thrilled. Joellen's out of town. Am I blinking? I'm ready to pop champagne right there. Pop bottles, tequila. Let's fucking go.

1:00:37Ben Mandelker: Rula is attempting to do fun Rula today. It's not fun at all. It's not fun. Look at me. I'm bougie. I'm drinking. So they're drinking hard ciders and they're in a car and Kelsey goes, I opened one of these with my teeth before. And so she puts it in her teeth and everyone, including me starts cringing. Like, don't do that. Don't do that. Hideous. Teeth only go one direction and that's downhill.

1:01:07Ronnie Karam: don't do that when they're made out of a toilet lid so good for her so they get on these like little train cars and basically you pedaled the train cars so they're split up to these cars so fun i want to do it yeah and kelsey says i packed so many snacks today before i came here i ate the leftover mcdonald's cheeseburgers i put in the trash you guys they're like oh okay and then

1:01:32Ben Mandelker: And Ash is like, okay, we, she's like, we could be friends. That is something I would totally do. Except I wouldn't, I don't eat leftovers from the trash. I just get my husband from there. So Rosie goes, well, I feel like everything I eat makes me feel like bloated and I feel sick. So like, why don't you talk about like all I want?

1:01:50Ronnie Karam: Is that because of the Ozempic? No, no. I've always been like that. You know? Yeah. Like I have colitis. That's why I had to quit. Cause I had to wear diapers to work. And they're like, oh my God. She was literally bleeding from her butthole.

1:02:02Ben Mandelker: you guys? Yeah. So then I took medical leave and then I was on medical leave and I'm like, this is amazing. Why would I ever go back to work? It's then Kelsey tells us, yeah, right. She left on medical leave. No, me and the entire state of Rhode Island knows that she got fired for having an affair with one of the higher ups. And is this a different affair than the, than the rumor about the, the, the coach from Providence college? Wow. How many affairs can be had by one cat.

1:02:29Ronnie Karam: This is so fucking funny. So Kelsey's like, yes, I love that Rosie is like, oh, I don't want people to be talking about the affair, so I'm going to get them talking about my bleeding asshole.

1:02:39Ben Mandelker: My insane colitis. My colitis magically cleared up, and I was like, all right, I'm never going back to work. I'm like, you're working right now, sweetheart.

1:02:51Ronnie Karam: So Liz is saying, okay, that was not at the party. I got mental. All right, I got mental. Yeah, you did, but it was your potty. You're allowed to get mental. You know, it's my potty and I'll fucking go through psychosis if I want to. The cuckoo clock came out. It was the cuckoo clock. It came out of me.

1:03:09Ben Mandelker: Yeah, but you know what? I appreciate that. You know, this is Dolores. I'm here, everyone. So Alicia goes, yeah, she said you apologize. She's like, did she say that? It's like, yeah, she said that. She's like, yeah, well, she apologized to me too. And, you know, but she probably didn't tell you that, huh? That she apologized to me, huh? Alicia goes, yeah. Well, so then they finally get to this place and they're I already put them on the bike things sorry everybody everyone's totally confused now I didn't realize we were I also thought they were on the bikes but they were actually in the cars people can be like you guys didn't even watch this show we did watch it we just sometimes it's hard to tell different forms of transportation

1:03:49Ronnie Karam: they went to a car to get to another car to get to a rail car okay we left out of state

1:03:55Ben Mandelker: it's like literally like multiple vehicles throughout the whole rest of the show.

1:03:59Ronnie Karam: Rula is wacky Rula. So she pours drinks for people in the back of her little rail car thing. And Alicia makes some jokes. She's like, I've never done this railroad thing. Like, I don't just big classes. I don't ride a bike, you know? But I do Jane's Fonda. That's what I do. I do Jane's Fonda. I still love her. Jane's Fonda. Her work gets on YouTubes. I love her so much.

1:04:22Ben Mandelker: I love Jane's Fonda. But I love her obviously pluralizing Jane or it's either that she's pluralizing Jane or she's making Fonda a possession of Jane. But I love either version of that, but I also love her dedication to this long lost fitness fad. It's like, you know what I love doing? I love doing fitness from 40 years ago. Oh, it's so good.

1:04:43Ronnie Karam: It's actually really good. Whenever I'm working out, which has been a long time, but whenever I'm working out, I used to like to do eight minute abs, which you can find on YouTube. And that's from like the eighties too. It's really grainy. It's like a little tiny square on the thing.

1:04:58Ben Mandelker: uh there's some there are some the person who invented eight minute ads something just happened with them oh god no uh it's a thing maybe they died i don't know either i'm sorry it was just in the news i could swear it was just in the news okay um they're just doing these things they're on this like they're going down the track and rosie is talking to to liz there's they're they're in the same little cart thing. And Rosie's like, so how do you feel about Ashley? And Liz is like, oh, you're so direct. She's like, I know, I can't even help it. You know what? What I know of is, you know, my very first experience, 4th of July, it wasn't a great one, okay?

1:05:39She didn't even look at me.

1:05:41Ben Mandelker: And we see the 4th of July that Ashley barely said hi to Liz. So Rosie says, honestly Liz, you can be really scary. I don't think you realize how scary you are. You're so successful. you're beautiful you have all these nice things about you but those aren't scary things that you're listing there those aren't scary things but all of them together could be scary but by the way when she says those aren't scary things she says that in the scariest way you could say that yeah those aren't scary things you know maybe i do come across as scary but i know Well, my heart resigns. I would give you the shirt off my back.

1:06:23But I do find often when I come around the corner, people do jump. So maybe I am a little scary.

1:06:31Ronnie Karam: My God, I jump every time you come on the TV.

1:06:34Ben Mandelker: I know. Seriously. So they get to the end of this like track. And Dolores is like, that was very fun. Thank you. It was almost as fun as that fruit salad you made me.

1:06:47Ronnie Karam: so now they go to like another little public park area where they sit on adirondack chairs around a fire pit with real wood which means that there's tons of smoke blowing and the wind starts blowing and just starts blowing all the smoke into rosie's face and she just sits there she doesn't

1:07:03Ben Mandelker: move she just wipes it off like she looks like she's crying but she just she's literally crying

1:07:09Ronnie Karam: because there's so so much smoke and she doesn't move like move no do i have to come over there and Move your chair.

1:07:14Ben Mandelker: What are you doing? And Fun Rula, she's like, guys, I have a buzz. Oh, my God. I'm being booge right now. Look at me. I'm so much more fun than Joellen. Right, guys? Look at me. Fun Rula. So they sit and they're like, wow. She's like, oh, wow, Rosie Woods, you outdid yourself. I don't run that chairs with a viewer to see. Wow, this is just the nicest thing we ever done did, except for me. I mean, I have a seawall in my backyard, but this is nice, too.

1:07:42Ronnie Karam: So Ashley and Rosie go walk to the water station. And Rosie's like, okay, so I was with Liz, obviously, and you came up. And I know she was just basically like the first time I met Ashley, she snapped me. I'm going to kill the bitch, like literally take her on a fishing boat, throw her over while I stopped the boat. So, yeah, you don't pay attention to her. So you're not even trying. That's what she said. So Ashley's like, oh, God, oh, geez. Now what do I do? And Ridley goes, they're having some side combos over there. Here's all I heard. Like, like, like. Like, I don't know.

1:08:13Ben Mandelker: Doing that, she's like, look at them, those young women just saying like, like, like all the time. God, they can't even speak right. So then basically Ashley says, you know, my mom always said that when she was younger that people mistook her shyness for bitchiness. I think that's what's happening here. I'm just like truly shy in front of some people, especially the scary ones. So I'm going to work on it.

1:08:33Ronnie Karam: All right, all right, all right. Let me ask you a question. Like, I really want to help Pizza Baba, okay? So I'm growing Pizza Baba with Billy. I got all these ideas I don't want to show up I can do it I'm not just a girl That's from Superior Bakery Which my grandfather started Everyone knew him In Rhode Island I'm just not someone Who's going to do your laundry all day You know what I mean? So what do you mean? You have a name You're the pizza mama You invented it You designed it I don't want to do it

1:08:59Ben Mandelker: And Alicia's like No none of it's in my name though FYI She's like But you have to demand it It's up to you to demand it She's like So Ashley says Well have you ever had a conversation about it? And so then they decide that they're going to do some role playing where Kelsey is going to pretend to be Bill and Alicia is going to talk to Kelsey like she's Bill.

1:09:22Ronnie Karam: Alicia goes, okay, okay, I love doing this stuff. I love that Alicia is just role playing with her friends often. Okay, I'm Bill. Okay, so what are you going to say to Bill? Okay, look, here's the thing, Bill. I can't have sex with you all the time because it's not like I'd rather go to bed and watch Love Island. There, I said it.

1:09:41Ben Mandelker: Yeah, I'd rather go to bed. He's like, okay, well, do you want, like, how about something more specific? He's like, okay, well, I'm not putting you on the house, Alicia, which is the thing that we're really here to talk about, not Love Island. Just, oh, yeah. Well, then I say, please, Billy, I have all these ideas, like Pizza Mama without asking for a dollar back and knowing that I'm getting zero for like 11 years or something like that. And like, I'm giving you my whole life. and but like at the heart of it like you should be putting me on a house because you should want to take care of me i'm the mother of your daughter and i love you isn't that enough like that's showing me something huh isn't that enough billy it's gonna make me cry that was actually really

1:10:22Ronnie Karam: good you didn't even need this work like you have it so just go say that and so ruler's like yeah and tell him there's intrinsic value of being a wife and a mother that you're not being compensated for. Okay. Even my kids got$9 trillion yesterday to water. Yeah.

1:10:39Ben Mandelker: There's an intrinsic value of being a wife and a mother. Kelsey turns around and goes, she doesn't even know what intrinsic means.

1:10:47Ronnie Karam: And then it comes to Alicia and Alicia's like, yeah, what was that? But I can say in Spanish, I had a great teacher. Okay. Let me put it in layman's terms. I don't know what that is either. Okay. Let me make it simple. Just because you're not actively earning an income, you're doing laundry, you're doing cooking, cleaning, whatever, helping with stuff, you got value. She's like, oh my God, Rula's so financially independent. I envy that about her. I hate asking Billy for money. I feel almost embarrassed or intimidated with the whole financial thing. Wait, you guys, what were you talking about earlier?

1:11:20Ronnie Karam: Because I saw you guys over there, you was talking. What were you saying? Oh, we were just having a little chat. Yeah, well, what happened?

1:11:27Ben Mandelker: Oh, well, nothing. We were talking about how Rosie and I have been very intimidated by Liz. You, that one. Oh my God, she's looking right back at me. I should never have said her word name. I hear if you say Liz's name three times in a row, she comes through

1:11:38Ronnie Karam: your mirror and drags you into the netherworld. Rosie says, don't rope me into this. I did tell you on the rails, though, that, you know, sometimes you can be scary, Liz, you know, which is true. Like, you know, intimidating, but I'm not scared now, you know, sometimes. Well, okay, I'm a little scared. Liz's like, you're honest. I got this really steely exterior, but But deep down, I'm super sensitive. And I think that's why. And I think maybe it could be partly a defense mechanism. Or partly, maybe this just be the badass bitch will kill you if you fuck with her. I don't really allow many people to get close, especially fast.

1:12:16And I've experienced so much loss in my life that I either don't want to get close to people or then I lose them. I don't want to get close to people and then be disappointed by them. Like, okay. So Liz is like, you know, sometimes, I sometimes tend to jump down people's croats, but not on purpose.

1:12:33Ronnie Karam: So Rosie, you asked her, yeah, exactly. Do you think that's what happened on Saturday? And she goes, Saturday and my party, no, I was heated, I was drunk, and I'm not proud of it. My brain is small, man. Circumstances happen and you move on. Next, has anybody tried Liz's iced coffee?

1:12:52Ben Mandelker: It pairs beautifully with fruit salad. They all say it. I say it. So Rosie goes, well, Alicia, you said she's always been like that. Alicia's like, what? It's like, you know, that Liz just gets mad. What? Huh? You know, when you said she, you know, she's hoping to never react that way again. You should have said it's probably not going to change. Rosie, I wouldn't do that, doll. I wouldn't do that. We're cut from the same cement. Cloth? You got cloth? I'll take some cloth. No, no, you're cut from the same cloth. Why are you cutting your cloth? Why you buy cloth to cut it? See, this is what's wrong with you.

1:13:29Ronnie Karam: Listen, I just said what it is, okay? Don't be intrinsic. And Liz is like, why did you say that? And Rosie's like, because I asked. Has she always been like this? Wait, you know what? How is that? Don't turn that around. Don't turn that around right now. Don't turn it around. She goes, oh my God, freak out, but then be cool is what she meant. Rosie, Rosie, I would do that if I were you. Just keep it real, okay? Don't do that, okay? And so Rosie's like, okay, well, I guess she's upset that I told the truth.

1:13:55Ben Mandelker: yeah but i also kind of thought like that was it was just like a fact that we were all acknowledging and i guess you really can't be honest or transparent because everybody's afraid

1:14:02Ronnie Karam: so oh gosh okay being honest and transparent lady who made up colitis to get out of being

1:14:08Ben Mandelker: fired for fucking the boss and obviously pitting these two against each other it was very whitney

1:14:14Ronnie Karam: rose like so yeah that's her that's her role in this she's just gonna go try and start fights with everybody all the time.

1:14:20Ben Mandelker: She's like a Whitney Rose, but a Whitney Rose who's kind of disgusted by things, which I like. So Alicia says, you know, I said, this is who you are. This is Liz. And, you know, they're like, they're like trying to make it into something like, you know, and so Rosie goes, you just admitted you said it. I mean, I didn't admit to shit. Don't flip like that. Don't flip that shit. Don't do that to me. Don't put shit in my mouth. Okay, unless it's a pizza chip. I'll eat a pizza chip from Superior Bakery. My grandfather started at Superior Bakery. Don't even talk, don't even say his name. Stop talking about Superior Bakery Because guess what You know me like that You know okay Once you flip your shit I'll never see you in the same light again So fucking slow your roll Because you're not hot You're not hot You don't even have a piece of chips In your name What bakery did you work in None huh

1:14:59Ronnie Karam: God Oh yeah Now I know who you really are Don't fuck with me Okay And Liz's like It's alright babe Okay No it's not alright It's alright Because she twisted my words Alright And I don't even know that many So you're a fucking troll You're a fucking troll Is what you are

1:15:15someone get on a big noon already you know i i don't like feeling betrayed like what are you trying to do like what are you trying to what are you trying to prove i wasn't bashing liz and i don't like how well she twisted it i don't like that behavior i don't like the snakes i don't

1:15:29Ronnie Karam: like it at all she fucked me and i'm not into that i'm not into that all right yeah you did fuck me and you know what now welcome to rhode island bitch welcome to rhode island bitch this is how we roll like isn't she from rhode island i know like literally does the local news on rhode island you're like welcome rhode island i think she she understands rhode island i think

1:15:49Ben Mandelker: at this point i'm sorry i just really miss watching the oc i sometimes i have to quote it

1:15:53Ronnie Karam: you know it's a great show 20 years old thirsty bitch you're so thirsty it's scary fucking whore you're a fucking whore is what you are whoa whoa i love this i love this so asher's like i don't

1:16:06Ben Mandelker: even know what happened but i want to cry so alicia goes off and alicia like roller tries to go after and alicia's like no no no i need to get out of here because i'm not i'm gonna end i'm gonna kill her i'm gonna kill her no calm down a second come here come here okay come here okay i got a buzz i'm being a bit bougie right now okay i apologize for yelling back at the fire liz is like did i miss something man roach is like i don't even know how this happened i'm just like

1:16:32Ronnie Karam: so starstruck by it. Like, what?

1:16:36Ben Mandelker: It's like, wow, this fight, it's like Denzel Washington walked in. I'm so starstruck by it. I think she I think she thinks that I was trying to start a problem with you, which I was, but now I'm going to act like I didn't. I just don't know why she doesn't realize that I'm not starting a problem with you.

1:16:53Ronnie Karam: Oh, yeah, I can hear you over there. I can hear you. You know what? I can handle what? What? What? I was just saying you tried to do something you should have done. You know, like, you just did the most grossest thing ever. okay it was the most grossest like thank you for showing me your cards thanks for showing me your

1:17:06Ben Mandelker: cards okay liz isn't upset about anything it's okay it doesn't matter how she twisted things it's what's it's what's weird in me out okay it's like a it's like driving on bridges who does that right because people like that they're just like a little troll like snake eyes but like that's just not my style okay you know what i'm a local road you're a highway get out of here i feel really

1:17:27Ronnie Karam: bad for Rosie because like this is a demonstration of Alicia's going to defend Liz, you know? And I don't know. It's not that deep. It's nutso. I've never seen anything like this all my entire life.

1:17:40Ben Mandelker: She's like, I would never have said it if I thought you would react this way. Like, Jesus!

1:17:46Ronnie Karam: Yeah, yeah, but I didn't like the way you looked. Okay, I don't like the way you looked. Yeah, you look like a pizza chip with eyes, okay? And pizza chips shouldn't talk.

1:17:56Ben Mandelker: Yeah, your eyes look sneaky. You just get a sneaky little troll. It's like, well, maybe I'm like, maybe because I'm in the middle of the smoke.

1:18:02Ronnie Karam: It's like, no, no, I don't like snakes either. And you're a snake though. You're a snake and a troll. Okay, snake troll person. All right, all right, Alicia, come on. Come on, listen, listen, Alicia, Alicia, Alicia. So Liz goes after Alicia. Come on, Alicia, let's go out over here. You know what? She lies. That freaks me out. Like, I don't like that shit. Okay, Liz goes, what's happening? Hey, by the way, do I have chocolate on my mouth? She goes, no, you know what? Like, I feel like I'm drooling too. Am I drooling? What happened to you is what happened to me Saturday night. I had the exact response.

1:18:34Worse, actually. In some ways, my storyline's a little bit better than yours. And I regretted it the next day.

1:18:39Ronnie Karam: No, no, I'm not going to regret it. I promise you that. Yeah, but your reaction, you might. You might regret it. No, not with her. No, I was too loyal to her, too. You know, I don't give a fuck. But I'm like, not with her. Not with her.

1:18:52Ben Mandelker: So then Ashley's like, well, that was shocking for me to see. And Rosie's like, I'm shocking for me to experience Jesus. I guess that's her thing is that she just says Jesus at the end of everything when she's dismayed. Jesus.

1:19:04Ronnie Karam: They're all just cracking up that Alicia is losing it. It's like one little thing. And now Alicia is going to scream and yell for the rest of the night. They're cracking up because it really is funny. And so now they come back because Liz has calmed her down. And Kelsey's like, yeah, Rosie just exaggerates and manipulates stories. And, you know, don't keep talking about nonsense. You get what you get. So they come back and Alicia's like, you know what? I tell Liz exactly how I feel. She goes, I didn't say you didn't. Yeah, you just acted weird and I don't like what you did. You know what? You distracted me tonight.

1:19:34Ronnie Karam: You distracted me.

1:19:35Ben Mandelker: You distracted me. It's like, well, I'm sorry I disrespected you. I didn't mean to. Well, then learn from that. It's like, well, I think you misinterpreted it. No, I didn't. It's like, well, I think it had an intrinsic thing. I just said that to confuse you. What? What? Where am I? Where am I? How do we get into it?

1:19:51Ronnie Karam: Oh my God. Can we go talk about it? She goes, oh, you know what? Like, I'd rather you tell me sorry. Like, just say sorry. She's like, just come talk to me. And so they walk away. Now Liz is like, oh, God, why you got to walk over there to talk about it?

1:20:07Ben Mandelker: So Liz, she's like, Rosie, you just threw me for a fucking loop. She's like, I don't understand. I had a whole conversation with Liz on the way here. And I said, a lot of times I feel intimidated by you. And I feel like people walk on fucking eggshells with you. She's like, well, she knows that. Exactly. So I was like, why is it okay to call me out? But you're not going to call her out?

1:20:25Ronnie Karam: so ruler's like where's the give me some of that they're like is there anymore it's bougie ruler

1:20:32Ben Mandelker: okay back to me rosie can you just understand that i'm not coming from a bad place what like uh cranston no i'm literally don't even live there okay well if you say you're sorry i'm good good well i'm really sorry and i just don't want us to not be friends i just don't want it to be like you secretly fucking hating me like i don't hate you i don't hate what are you talking

1:20:51Ronnie Karam: about okay okay we're good are you good okay because i can get over shit i can get over it okay you you can't though right because you you you got to work past this shit you know what

1:21:02Ben Mandelker: i'm a gangster yeah all of a sudden alicia's like no i love you get over it what are you mad about i had a fig newton you weren't watching i had a fig newton i feel so much better sometimes i have a temper i forgive easily all you know all you have to do is say sorry you know if i had my peppermint oil i probably wouldn't have been i probably would have been more calm the smell you know it calms me down it's like you know mary katherine gallagher's you know you put your fingers in the in your in your armpits you smell i can't even do it i can't i can't do it i

1:21:28Ronnie Karam: can't do it it's too much somehow they hug and everyone's like oh my god did she just hug her they go god this is record time a flip-flop world it's just yeah that's right we call cc the flip

1:21:38Ben Mandelker: flop that's why we call it that and that's where it ends it's hilarious that was a very funny fight mainly because it was Alicia talking the entire time and just hearing her talk is hilarious to me. So silly.

1:21:52Ronnie Karam: All right, everybody. Thanks so much for being here. That brings us to the end. We'll see you tomorrow for some more re-coppage. Oh, actually, tomorrow's going to be a little late. It's not going up till tomorrow night because I will be traveling, okay? Just put out the word. We'll talk to you next time, everybody. Love ya. Bye. Oh, kisses.

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