#3331 RHOBH S15E19 Part One: Amandatory Tear Down

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1:23Well, hello and welcome to Watch What Crappens. I'm Ronnie in Ronnie's house and that's Ben in Ronnie's house. Hi, Ben.

1:32Ben Mandelker: Hi. Oh my God. Isn't this so fun? Isn't this so fun? I am recording from Ronnie's LA house. Yes, I love it. Some technical difficulties. Yeah, thanks a lot, Spectrum. There was an outage last night at one in the morning. I was watching Survivor. I was like, okay, internet outage, whatever. And I woke up this morning, the internet was still out. It's like, no, it's been fixed. So my modem is like, you know what, I quit. My modem has decided it has had enough. And so despite the fact that service has been restored to the area, my modem has continued to be on strike. So thanks to Ronnie for opening his home to me.

2:11Ben Mandelker: So I had to drive over to Ronnie's place. And I'm sitting in his chair. I get to feel like what it's like to be Ronnie in this beautiful setup in this beautiful room. I'm just envious of your workspace. It's so clean and beautiful. You don't have board games on every single wall that you're stuffing away and hiding off camera. It's beautiful in here. Well, thanks. I'm glad you're there. Could you water that plant behind you that you gave me? I actually could. Do you really need to water a little bit? Yeah, just like a cup or two. I watered it before I left, but just to make sure. Yeah, you mean that one?

2:45Yeah, it's the money tree. The rest of them are safe, maybe. Yeah, the only real thing in there is from you. So welcome, everybody. Today is Beverly Hills Day. We've also got a couple of fun projects coming up that are not Watch What Crappens. That's going to be crazy. Well, they are Watch What Crappens based, but they're not this. So they're really fun. And we will announce those ones next week and the next one's coming up. We're so excited. We're working on them right now. And so there's that coming up next week. And yeah, so nothing else is going on in the world. So let's just get to the...

3:28Welcome to the Alexia News Network. Oh, you know Peter. You know Peter. You know Peter. You know Peter. He never would have done anything bad.

3:37Ben Mandelker: Star News. Star News Report from Alexia News Network. I'm a star. I'm giving you the news today because I'm a star. Okay, so big news today. some audio leaked. About two-ish minutes of audio leaked from the Summer House reunion taping. Yes. This is big. It was crazy. It's like Sierra is just like holding Amanda responsible and Amanda's like, you can't help who you like. All that stuff. But what people don't realize is that there was actually a second leak, which is crazy. And I feel like i'm not sure if this has hit the internet yet because someone just sent it to us but we actually have more audio from the reunion are you ready are you ready to hear it you ready to hear it okay i'm gonna press play let's play all right so amanda did you get new boobs i love them tell me about your new boobs no andy it's just like it's really hard and like i didn't want to hurt anyone with my new pubes but like sometimes you just have to like follow your heart okay so tell me did west get the new pubes or the old pubes um could i answer that question please um it's just like i it's like really hard for me and like i um i don't know what to say and like i just really didn't want to like um upset like sierra about this but like the one thing i messed up was like about the pubes so like i'm sorry but like also like i'm just like i did one bad thing and i think it's like it's like not so bad if you think about it what do you mean it's not so bad i'll tell you what's not so bad uh the countertops in the kitchen which i cleaned where's my credit where's my credit ah what about my credit okay it was like i'm in djing and i'm like what about me it was like my still my birthday you know like that how come you're like doing all this stuff on my birthday, you know?

5:36Ew, Amanda, not only did you cheat on your husband, but you did it. You're like, Wes's like sloppy thirds. Like, it's disgusting. Wes just slept with half the town, Amanda. Gross.

5:47Ben Mandelker: Hey, hey, hey. There's so much fighting. I think what we all need is a little bit of music to lighten the mood, right? Cheating's not so bad when you know the guy. Cheating's not so bad when you're smiling Why are you saying that I'm having sloppy thirds or fourths? I mean, I've been with Kyle for years. I'm used to having sloppy fits and thugs. Would you say that you're in the mix? In the mix. In the mix. You are all disgusting, and I'm here to say I support Sierra and tacos. So please go get your tacos at the beach tacos, Dan. Beach tacos. Tacos for you. I want to move on. I want to move on.

6:33Ben Mandelker: I know this is a very big topic, but more importantly, did anyone here get some new boobs? That's what America really wants to know. Boobs, boobs, boobs. Bailey, did you get new boobs? Andy, KJ here. I just wanted to say I stand by Sierra because I'm a lover boy. I'd just like to say that I thought what happened was really disrespectful on the part of Amanda and West in the way that they came onto the stage and didn't even congratulate me for still being in love with Sabrina. So I think that you owe Sabrina an apology for that. Andy, Bailey here. Bailey here. Andy, can I ask a question? Am I flirting?

7:15Am I flirting right now?

7:16Ben Mandelker: Kind of, actually. Yeah. You're stroking my hair. It's weird. super fascinating stuff to come out so yeah thanks for whoever sent us that so there's a lot of people wondering like who is the leaker who recorded this who recorded this audio who do you think it is i don't know so at first i thought wow it must be someone on stage because the audio was so crisp and so clear but then i was on threads earlier and you know our friend dylan from betcha's dylan hafer he said something like this is why bravo creators like we're not going to get invited back or something. I've got to find it. What did you say?

7:53Ben Mandelker: He almost implied that there was a Bravo creator or did they allow some Bravo creators to hang out backstage and watch it? No, they wouldn't have done that. I don't think so. This is what Dylan said. He said, Bravo creators posting the illegal summer house leak and then wondering why they don't get invited to Bravo events. Oh, he's probably saying someone probably sent it to a creator and then they leaked it and then that creators wondering why they don't get invited to something well it's your national it's your duty to your country to post it if you got it i mean that's just crazy of course we're gonna post it if we got it i mean i love dylan yeah come on now we gotta post it you find it you post it that's it it's like a lost puppy you don't just find a lost puppy and take it home you post it on the street you know you tell people i found a puppy guys it's important at bravo for the rest of us posted two hours ago.

8:46Ben Mandelker: Update. Kyle confirmed it was directed at West. Guys call, guys, Kyle called Amanda a schmuck. I had to look it up, the definition. Who the fuck has to look up the definition of schmuck? Okay, you know what? You're cancelled, bravo, for the rest of us. Don't come on here and announce you have to look up schmuck. Excuse you. So then she goes, schmuck is a slang term for stupid. Is this what the update's about? I thought the update was about something more than this, not like is literally an update about what the word schmuck means this is the most funny this is the this is what this is what i get for reading something on the fly okay guys kyle called amanda schmuck but actually the update is kyle confirmed it was directed at west and then kyle says this was directed at west i called west a schmuck which is we all know is a slang term for stupid foolish or condemnable person often acting as a synonym for jerk or idiot in some language it literally translates to a vulgar term for i literally cannot believe that this content creator put the definition of schmuck up this is making my friday okay i'm sorry i thought i had better news than that um yeah so this audio league is i well i think i'm going with the internet guests i think i think the majority of comments i've read think it's west um a west is thirsty also the audio is coming from the audio is clearest with west and amanda and carl so that's like right there it's right that little cluster but i think that a pretty good guess is also very close to there and that is jesse himself because i was actually jesse jesse would make sense like trying to impress a girl and be like oh look i got this audio from these things pretty good recorded on the phone and then that person sent it on you know like some someone he just banged in a bar or something so i don't know but um it's pretty bad and they're launching an internal investigation don't do it on yeah probably like released an official statement like we take this very seriously and the audience you know is like we don't take it seriously it's fine um but i i was actually thinking jesse this morning and i was thinking jesse or west because i noticed the audio was clearest with them.

10:58Ben Mandelker: Amanda was really clear. We don't really hear Jesse talk. I didn't cross reference with the seating chart, but I'm sure people have already done that in terms of like where, where the voices were clearest for the voices. Um, but I don't think the thing is that like, is there more to the audio than that clip? Or was it like, did like Jesse, if it were Jesse, did he go in there and like press record and press stop? And there was a moment where I could have sworn i felt like i heard like the sound of like fabric hitting the microphone but i've only listened to it twice and i feel like i didn't hear it the second time maybe that was my own mind you know confabulating a moment there because i thought maybe this could be like someone as part of the entourage watching on the closed circuit tv but there was something about the voices sounded really clear and there was like the uh there was like a difference in the volumes of the voices that implied having a distance as opposed to if you were watching on closed circuit TV, everyone would be at the same volume, right?

11:59Yeah. So I think it's someone just either recording on their watch or just hitting record on their phone real quick behind a pillow or something. That's crazy. I don't know. And also, I read Oh no. I didn't, what?

12:13Ben Mandelker: The worst possible text just came through right now. No. As we're talking. What happened? Please don't tell me somebody died. No. We may die. Why? What happened? This is from my friend Neil. Hi, Neil. OMG, Ben. Did you see the West nude photos? Oh, God. This day couldn't get worse. West nude photos? Oh, God. Of course, I'm saying no. Please send. Yes, of course. I do not want to see that. Send them immediately. Wow. Wow. Oh, that happened. So I'm very excited for the reunion. It's a big day. The mortgage guy, my mortgage guy was writing me this morning. But doesn't just bring this all together.

13:00The whole village, the whole village is like, what's up? What do you think of this? Oh, my God. So, yeah, I don't really know. You know, the Internet is a flame as usual. And he's very upset. He's very disappointed in you guys. So I don't know. I'm excited to see it. Right. Yeah.

13:17Ben Mandelker: And he was like, I've got to go to an eye appointment today and this is what I have to deal with. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Andy was like that. He's like, I'm on the way to the eye doctor. Can I even go to the eye doctor without you kids bothering me? One thing I forgot to tell you and that we have not discussed yet is that there is a spinoff of Summer House coming in the Ozarks, which we heard. We were doing an interview with somebody the other day and they told us I hadn't heard about it. I looked it up and it's centered on West. So, well, West is the bridge. He's the bridge. So it's all of West friends partying in the Ozark, which of course they are.

13:54Like, of course. That's West fans. That's what you get. Ozark people.

13:59Ben Mandelker: I could have sworn we talked about this. Or maybe I just sent you the link or I don't know. But I could have sworn, yeah, there is like going to be an Ozarks thing. Thanks a lot, McBee Dynasty. You are the ones who caused this. because this is their fault this is their fault because they went to the ozarks and bravo is i think bravo is like just trying to sort of soft launch some sort of like mega programming and so they're like we're gonna do we're gonna do we're going to do we're going for it yeah we're going for it straight up well do you think that they're going to move west and amanda over to the ozarks and just be like okay go over there you're done for this one maybe he may volunteer to do that.

14:41Ben Mandelker: I mean, I assumed that Wes would be sort of like Dolores on Rhode Island. He'll just be like an ambassador to get them on their feet. I'm actually totally okay with it. I'm fine with Summer House Ozarks. I honestly think that they should also bring back Summer House Martha's Vineyard and this time make sure you have a villain because I thought season one of Martha's Vineyard was absolutely excellent and then season two was just sort of rudderless and just didn't go in any particular direction and so it was really rough, but also season two of regular summer house was rough so i think that bravo should bring that one back if they're gonna bring back ozarks that was a good show house yeah i think that's like it's also kind of a bad look and as long as we're at it bring back southern charm new orleans that one was so good why are we and had the hottest guys of any bravo show like why does why is that one not back i'm ready i'm on a tear now yeah well we can just ask questions on canceled bra where's gallery girls where is it so anyway that's the summer house news so everybody who's here for beverly hills sorry about that but you know there's sometimes things happen in the bravo world we have to discuss as they happen and this is one it's time for a commercial it's time for a crappin's commercial it's way day at wayfair from april 25th through the 27th you can score the best deals in home, like up to 80 % off with free shipping on everything.

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17:53All right, let's get on with it. We are Real Housewives of Beverly Hills, season 15, episode 19, Reunion, part one. What are your overall thoughts on this reunion? How'd you feel, buddy?

18:05Ben Mandelker: I was very happy with it. I was in it. I liked it. I thought it was spicy. It was fun. I was laughing. So I really had no problem. What about you? Okay, well, that's good. Yeah, I enjoyed it as well. I found myself having all these mixed emotions during it because Dorit, you know, like I'm standing against Kyle because I see what Kyle's doing. She does it every season where she finds someone that she's like, we're going against this person. She works behind, you know, with everybody else talking behind this person's back until everyone's on her side. Then she does the same shit every year and I'm sick of it.

18:43And I think she's doing it with Dorit now. We all know I think that. I've said it a million hours this season. I don't need to go. And I will say it a million more. so that bugged me but Dorita's also so supremely annoying you know she like yeah she talks too much she's so overdramatic about every little really she repeats herself it's like condescending yes but then you've got Erica making the most hypocritical comments like well it's not about your money no one cares about your money are you kidding your whole character this whole decade you've been on here has been about how rich you are and how blah blah blah and your private plane and your rich husband and this and that.

19:21And then you're going to turn around and be like, oh, it's not about your shallow. I mean, she's such a hypocrite on every level in this episode. That made me crazy.

19:29Ben Mandelker: But like, weirdly enough, like when she was, yeah, when she was lecturing Amanda, I was like, you know, your message may be correct, but you are not the proper messenger for this. Like you cannot be on here seriously talking about brands and how she's doing too much with her brands. When you were the one who brandified Beverly Hills, you were the one who turned this into a glam squad circus. And it's like about what's your look. And like, you're the one who's literally sitting here dressed, you know, like some sort of Fendi circus with the big hat and everything. And like an Orville Redenbacher, you know, at gate can't do that.

20:02Ben Mandelker: Like you're the one who's all about these crazy looks and you're, you know, but I think that despite that she, her message was not wrong. But I think, I also don't think that her, I think she misworded her message, which is more like, it's one thing to be like, hey check out this cool thing I'm wearing it's another to be braggy about it and that's where Amanda goes wrong is that she's braggy instead of like isn't this cool and but we'll get to that I find that strangely enough believe it or not the one who I've liked the most has been Erica I have never anyone who's listened to this podcast knows I've never really gotten behind Erica Jane I've tried that sometimes or sometimes I'll sort of give you know lukewarm praise like oh she's having a good season or I like her in this villain mode.

20:50Ben Mandelker: I think this is the first time I've actually genuinely been like, I think I'm on Erica's team. I've never, never ever felt that way. In fact, I've often blamed the fall of Beverly Hills on Erica. But I'm sort of with you. I think that Kyle is manipulative and she's self-serving and she's very quick to sort of be simpering and sad when she does so much that's so wrong. I think that Dorit has every right to be mad at Kyle. I think Kyle's been a shitty, shitty friend to her during this whole thing. But I also think that like it's really hard and annoying to be friends with Dorit during all this. I think that Dorit is really, she's taking a lot right now.

21:26Ben Mandelker: Like she, she is in the thick of it and she's just probably so fucking annoying to be friends with. So I guess that's just sort of leaves me with Erica where I'm like, I just sort of found myself by default on Erica's side in this. Oh yeah. No, not me ever. I mean, I find her, I find her entertaining. I've always found her somewhat entertaining. You know, she's, she definitely is kind of a mystery like she's a sociopath admittedly in a way i mean she didn't say i'm a sociopath but she had to be explained what empathy like they had to explain to her what empathy was you know she doesn't understand like how to feel bad for the victims even today she's like you know he says what what would you say to tom she's like why would you do this to me it's like why would you do this to all those fucking kids and orphans and victims like what about that Like she's still so dead inside.

22:14And so part of me has to respect her for like, just being like, I'm never going to come to life inside. I'm just going to stay dead inside. And so part of me has to respect that. But I also just think you're so vile and I don't buy 80 % of this victim crap that she's peddling out. And I think that Bravo has been giving us that like poor Erica. And I'm not, I'm not giving her an inch on that except for the Tom being, you know, except for the abuse stuff she talked about, Obviously, I'm not going to go, you know, say anything about that. The financial abuse stuff. I was like, well, I mean, think about all the financial abuse that the victims suffered and all and all the money that you're going to have to pay back that you spent.

22:56I don't know that we can watch you fly around on a plane and have your husband buying you this career and then show up adoringly for every little thing you do and then really buy this. I'm not buying that now. Emotional abuse. Of course, she's married to fucking grumpy, grumpy cat. You know, it's like, shut up, Erica. I'm talking Erica. So all of that. But most of the stuff that Erica was trotting out today, I didn't buy. But I did buy a ticket for it because it was very entertaining.

23:24Ben Mandelker: I mean, I think I like that Erica just has sort of reached a place in her Bravo tenure where she just basically is like, shut the fuck up. you know I like I like how she sometimes just cuts right through the bullshit and just tells people to shut up in a way that I like that I'm kind of doing at home so I think that's what I appreciate about her because like I get all this stuff with Marco Marco it's all terrible and everything the victims it's all terrible but like I've sort of compartmentalized it where I'm like I can't I it's been so many years I'm sort of like sick and tired of complaining about it I'm just gonna let that play out on the courts and then let that deal with it like I just kind of I'm kind of like I'm just sick of complaining about it personally I just feel I'm fatigued it doesn't take away anything about how terrible it is I'm just kind of like I'm sort of at a place where I just kind of want to judge her for based on what I'm seeing on screen I get that and so that's really where I'm at it's not me taking it lightly yeah and that's fine I'm just saying it's not me taking it lightly I have fatigue about complaining about that And so I just kind of want to enjoy her as a character on this show.

24:36Ben Mandelker: Not necessarily enjoy her, but just be like, I just want to focus on her being a character. Because I'm also finding that the more I preoccupy myself with people's extracurricular activities on Bravo, the more I go crazy. Because they all are doing hideous things at all times, it seems like. It doesn't mean I'm not going to get myself hoisted up on the petard, by my petard. Is that even the right use of that phrase? Hoisted by your own petard? It doesn't mean that I won't get on a soapbox about shit here and there because I'm not going to be consistent about it. There will be things that will annoy me.

25:10Ben Mandelker: But a lot of times it's like the fresh stuff that happens. But like, you know, to me, I'm like, you know, I just I'm just I'm sick of complaining about it. I just can't do it. Hoisted by my own petard. Yeah, that was making me. Yeah, I don't need to go on about the lawsuits and this and that over and over. It's just her lying makes me crazy. And so, yeah, I'm going to call that out every time I don't get tired of it. That's my hobby. I don't know what it is. It's like, I think it's funny to remark on it. Like, you know, I think it's always funny when Dorit paints herself as, you know, like when, you know, with so many of these things like this, like when she calls herself, like saying that she's joining the workforce, you know, it's like, but you were not joined the workforce.

25:52Ben Mandelker: Okay. You're putting on shoulder pads for a photo shoot. You brought$30 ,000 of cash into your, big lots hurt and then lost it mysteriously like i don't mind referencing things outside of the show yeah but um i i think i've just hit erica fatigue specifically you know on that front and the other thing in this reunion i don't know why i'm talking about the entire reunion but the other thing that had me feeling really weird was this whole like coming i felt like they were so mean to amanda and Amanda's a buffoon and I've you know like we you know we said that a million times in this so it's not like I'm gonna go on a huge crusade for Amanda but I don't like watching them team up and be mean to somebody like this person is obviously mentally weaker than you guys like she's not she's not um smart she's not like sassy she's not a good housewife and I think they're kind of unfair it's like you're beating up on somebody who just doesn't have the skills and i wish they would just kind of like ignore most of it instead of all kind of ganging up and then the stuff with bows bows again just you know i don't want to say lied i don't know if she doesn't remember what she's saying but she definitely had another stinker where amanda was like roll the tape and then they roll the tape and bows said exactly what she said now did bows mean like i don't do it for money you know i i technically do it for money but the reason i don't the reason i do it is not for profit i do it for other reasons okay that would be something but she did say what amanda said and then she denied it and then they rolled the tape and she did say it so that's the second time now and they both involve amanda so then i'm like well what the fuck's up with bows too because i don't normally think like that with bows i really like bows but now i'm like well what's up with her is she lying or does she just not remember anything i think we'll have to see when we get to those notes because i think if i remember correctly the gist of what amanda was saying was like you're losing money on your on your courses and bows i think in her clip was being very specific about a certain type of thing that she could do she's like i don't do those things because i would I would lose money on that thing.

28:11Ben Mandelker: But like Amanda was making it sound like Bose's enterprise was losing money. And so I think that's maybe that's how I took it. It's not that I want to make so many excuses for Bose, but I do like Bose. So I will make excuses for her because that's my right as a podcaster. But, but, but that's, that's kind of how I took it. The other thing was Amanda saying you, she said, why would you say I lose money on my courses? Amanda said, cause you told me you did. And she said, I would never say that. Why would I say that? She said, roll the tape. And they rolled it. And she goes, I don't make money off my courses.

28:43In fact, I lose money. And then it cuts back. And I'm like, well, did you not show them the clip? Show them the clip. I mean, it wasn't great.

28:50Ben Mandelker: It wasn't great. And when we get there, we'll have like - Listen, we'll get there in six hours, Ben. We'll get there. Okay, we'll get there in six hours. I need to pull over and get some peanut butter crackers. This is like the longest road trip ever. I need peanut butter crackers. I need to pee. We already have like a 90-minute delay because I had to like deal with my internet. And then what people don't know is I drove to Ronnie's house and I got here and I realized I didn't even bring my laptop. So I drove all the way home. I drove all the way back here. So it's been a wild morning. But the last thing I'm going to say is the thing with Amanda, I honestly don't mind them punching down on her.

29:25Ben Mandelker: I mean, she's like a con artist. Let's be honest. She's a con artist. I'm okay with them punching down on her. What I don't like is that they are they don't punch down with the conviction of like a old school roni or Salt Lake City or a Miami or an Atlanta or a Potomac because they're like, well, we don't like all this bragging because we just want to get to know you. You don't want to get to know Amanda. And even if you do, that's not why you're annoyed right now. Just say you're fucking pretentious and you're annoying and you're like a brat and a gnat and like stop acting this way. It's so annoying.

29:58Ben Mandelker: Like what's wrong with you? like just say it like that instead of the bragging it's just like it's like insecurity and we just want to get to know the real Amanda just tell us who you are it's like no stop it stop it just say what we all agree on whether you like Amanda or not is that she's fucking annoying with this shit and like the fact that they can't actually be direct about that is hilarious and that's why they always lose cause this cast just tries to be too nice even when they think they're being super direct all right yeah i agree with you okay let's get into it so shots of the nyc skyline so they're all coming in and rachel's like i definitely did not sleep last night and um dary's getting ready and she's got her under eye patches etc and she's like well erica came from me because she has nothing else going on i was an easy target speaking of i was just shopping there and i had thirty thousand dollars in my purse like oh god to read again army hammer was in light in front of me then suddenly my money was gone so was my calf i think he bit me to distract me and then took my bunny with his other hand so then kyle is like by the way i i really enjoyed kyle's look tonight i don't know how it's been received by the fashion gaze but i actually really liked it i thought kyle looked great so she says i think 90 of them look terrible today i don't know what these dresses are what who dressed them who picked the color scheme why kyle's dressed like that like kyle looks like she's gonna play tennis at a prep school like what is she like that amanda looks like she's been toilet papered rachel is in a mrs roper caftan like what are you guys doing i liked rachel's sort of like flapper-esque look.

31:51Ben Mandelker: Amanda, not a fan of that. I liked Bose's big thing. And everyone else, I can't remember. And obviously Jennifer Tilly has that dress, which is great. We haven't seen her yet. But Kyle, beyond the look, the face, Kyle came in with her new face. Normally Kyle waits between seasons. So we got two new faces this season, which is very rare because she came in with her new season face and now she came in with a reunion face. My question is, how are these healing so quickly? When I got my upper bleph thing done, it took me like the full six months to heal up. How are you getting your whole face done and it heals in time for the reunion?

32:28Who are your doctors?

32:30Ben Mandelker: When you're rich, you can just sort of have 24-hour care to come in and they buff you up and everything. It's a special program when you're like at that level. It's something else. Oh, my gosh. Poor people heal differently, I guess. but i will say new face looks great i mean it needed some wearing in i think before this because she does look like a tennis ball with a mouth at some point she's just like i'm so mad you do it like she's i'm like are you a ventriloquist why are you talking like that but it looks good she got good work done she did tennis it's just a tennis ball ventriloquist

33:13like are you are you throwing your voice why do i hear your voice but nothing on your face is

33:20Ben Mandelker: moving that'll be awesome day so kyle's true sooner rather than later girl i'm saving up over here so kyle is complaining in her dressing room to erica she's like i mean if she wants to play the villain now like like that everyone thinks that like everyone thinks you know remember she thought last year everyone thought she looks really cool smoking like so now she walks around everywhere like puffing cigarettes like an asshole because people thought that was cool yeah you have fun with that um kyle you're the one saying on fleek and doing splits and waving your ponytail around because you think it's cool so i just don't think that people in ponytail houses should throw splits around that's what i'm saying like just enough already yeah and i think this is this also shows why Kyle is mad at Dorit.

34:04Kyle hates when someone is more popular than her. And who thought that Dorit would be the one? But even Dorit took over and became popular all these years later, and Kyle cannot handle it. And Erica's trying to keep her on topics. This is about us three coming about. Okay, Kyle, that's what this is about.

34:26Ben Mandelker: So, we see a little bit of like what's what's the comment etc and now it's time for everyone to walk onto the stage the parade begins so Sutton comes first and he's like oh hi Miss Brown how's it going uh are you excited for what may be your final reunion because Sutton Brown not as fun as Sutton's track she's like oh thanks Andy thanks so much thanks for saying that okay oh it's Erica Jane Erica look at that show girl erica jane hi erica jane it's boos boos how's it going so um kyle comes out and there's a car oh my god not a car on set i've never seen that before kyle why do i hear your voice but there's a robot in front of me not shut up andy oh hi dorit and dorit just looks at erica and ignores her and so erica sticks her tongue out at her and and most importantly dorit goes i think i'll go this way.

35:24Ben Mandelker: And when she walks out on stage with her person holding the train of her dress, she walks right in front of Erica and Kyle. It was a definite like, I see you. I'm going to walk on your feet now moment, which was great. Also, by the way, walking around the table, I'll walk right in front of you in front of the table. So you have to deal with my train and my assistant. Exactly. And this set, by the way, it sort of like reminded me of Disney California Adventure. It's like, welcome to Rodeo Drive. It was like this fake Rodeo Drive But because there was that car that was on the stage, it also kind of felt like Price is Right.

35:58Ben Mandelker: It was just sort of strange. Well, maybe Dorit will win it at the end. You know, that would be nice. So Andy congratulates Dorit on not being the last one here for the first time ever, Dorit. It's like, yes, I knew indeed. And they are waiting on Amanda. Amanda, you are too unpopular to be this late. Get your ass off to the stage. Yeah, exactly. And your look was not worth it to be that late. So she comes out, little kids run away from her. So it's like toilet paper trailing behind them. They're like, I got you, stupid. Ceremonial grade toilet paper. So Andy's like, hi, everybody. Welcome to the Beverly Hills season 15 reunion.

36:39Ben Mandelker: I'm Andy Cohen. And here is what I'm manifesting for today. And Amanda's like, ha, ha, ha, ha. So he's like, I'm manifesting friendship, conflict, followed by resolution. Okay. hi Rachel Zoe everyone's obsessed with your boys who is obsessed with Rachel Zoe's boys who are those people who are like oh my god I can't wait for another Kai us in Skye scene oh my god Kai Kai fan club Kai Sky fan club we call ourselves the Kai Skyes and then he asked Amanda what are you manifesting today she's like say the truth be myself maybe have some fun and Sutton Brown. Wow, first reunion. Easy breezy, beautiful Sutton Brown out.

37:27Erica, how's the DJ going? That shit's hilarious. DJing. It's like, oh, it's great. I had two fabulous weeks of shows in Australia. I got to wear latex, play other people's music, have a good time. How's it different from your past two decades?

37:45Ben Mandelker: I know. That sounds like everything we've seen. the bows let's see that ring oh you mean the ring from gilby yes oh by the way and i do have a special request for my beverly hills wedding which will be filmed right andy i would love for you to dj erica and she's like absolutely consider it done i will dj everything three songs that's all i could do and then my play button finger ties out okay to read great to see you and by great to see you i mean god i hate to see you again god i hate to read to read and sucks everybody okay let me get a raise of hands who hates to read me and then like this actually you know i should i want to amend something when i say i found myself on erica's side i i still also am largely on to read side and that i know that sounds contradictory i feel like to read is totally correct about everything she says about Kyle.

38:41Ben Mandelker: It's just that the thing is that when her being late, that shit and her, she doesn't really listen and she is really late. So I understand Erica's frustrations with Dorit. But with the larger issue of how they've treated Dorit this season, I'm definitely on Dorit's side. Yeah. Just in case there was any confusion. Oh. Okay. So Andy's like, I just got lost. I thought you were going to say an Erica thing. I was waiting for your Erica thing. Commercials. Here comes one right now. My favorite place in the world, the whole entire world, and I've traveled quite a bit the past couple of years, but my favorite place is still my bed.

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41:45Andy is like, wow, Kyle, you are officially Bravo's consecutively longest running housewife. And this is your 15th reunion and your face is first. so that's quite an achievement how does that feel and she's like well i'm still standing am i standing right now i can't feel i can't feel my body you are sitting it's another lie from

42:06Ben Mandelker: kyle um i what this is so funny to me what an achievement what is the achievement here that you never found another gig you never how dare you she's on nashville 9-1-1 right now you're right you're right she actually actually the truth is she really did find other gigs i mean we make fun of her all the time but like she legitimately is is doing shit but i don't know why it is so funny to me to call being cast on the real housewives for 15 years in a row an achievement because like gina has done like eight so like yeah let's let's not forget the bar is kind of low also yeah crazy crazy that gina's been on eight seasons i mean it's like when i leave you know at the end of the night the staff of the golden corral isn't like congratulations you stayed longer than everybody else they're chasing me with the bill like are you gonna you've like literally been eating for three days are you gonna pay this yeah so uh andy's like okay well i want to know where we stand the friendships with kyle dorit and erica were shaken and it had an impact on the whole group who was stirred.

43:17Do we think we can shove an olive in that and drink it and have a martini? And Kyle's like, well, I would love, you know, I would love to fix things with Tari. She's like, well, I'd always love that, auntie, but we have to be realistic. You do. Hold on, let me make my first sucking a candy face.

43:37Ben Mandelker: And Andy's like, what about you, Erica? You think this is gonna work out? She's like, no. she's like I don't have much help see that's what I that was why I was on her side too like I think it was just so funny like well I mean it would be like great if we could like get to a good place and her's like fuck it it's not gonna happen like I love that energy that she gives these days you know so Andy's like okay when new housewife Rachel Zoe and Rachel Zoe's like oh my god like me oh my god this is like crazy yeah when Rachel Zoe saw how excited fans were about having her back at Bravo she probably said I'm dead.

44:11Ben Mandelker: I can't. Are you okay? But while her new friends marveled at how stylish she was, her home life was undergoing a painful new makeover. Oh, my God. Like, literally, the wordplay is, like, making me so vulnerable right now. Like, thank you. This was, like, amazing. I'm dead. Like, amazing. Let's watch a Rachel Glit package. And it's like, dead. Dead. I'm dead. My husband's leaving me. Hey, kids. Do you think your husband? Okay. I'm going to get Kai Kai. I'm going to give you multiple choice. Is your father A, an asshole, B, a shithead, or C, a loser? Okay, go ahead. D, you're right, all of the above.

44:50Correct. I didn't say anything. What I say, dead. So then we come back, and Rose is holding Rachel's hand. Why was that difficult to watch? Because Rachel has had the easiest first year out of any housewife I've ever seen. So give her a break. she doesn't need the hand holding but that's sweet still so her own bespoke vacation in the middle of the season we've known she really did it's like yeah my sister's house can't fit all these people so i just i'll take two of the people i guess rachel what was it like coming back into

45:24Ben Mandelker: the fold well i feel like i survived the tabloid era so it was scary like not wanting to be the subject of fodder and thank god brad wasn't here to undermine me again oops did i say that but i ended up being like a lot more open than i thought i would be i was like so vulnerable and like i feel like i'm being really vulnerable about how vulnerable i was yeah so well did any part of you come back at this show to get back at roger and she's like um no not even a little bit what what by the way roger's trash by the way why would i try to get back at trash you know what i just leave trash at the side of the road and wait for it to get picked up like anybody else i pay taxes he's had Vilma's haircut for 20 years he's already suffered enough so is Roger upset watching the show she's like yeah but like you know like there was bad stuff happening in real time this summer that I could have said but I didn't say take that Roger yeah so instead I said in slow motion I'm dad instead of real time they were like do you regret being so open because that's not really how we do it around these bots.

46:39Ben Mandelker: Rachel's like, no. I love when Erica becomes the new host of the show. She does that every time. She's like, let me ask you a follow-up question, hon. I'm like, sit back. What is that? I love her asking, do you regret being so open? See, that's what you get. So she's like, no. I think the truth can be a painful thing, but knowing that being open might have helped as many people as I would hope for it, I think it's great. You don't understand how many boho chic stylists reached out to me and said, thanks. You helped me get through my divorce. Like just one stylist helping another stylist right now.

47:16Ben Mandelker: Nothing. Well, you weren't happy your ex introduced the girlfriend at the airport. Do you have any kind of relationship with her? And she's like, are you okay? Kyle's like, are you okay? I can do it too. Are you okay? You all can do it, Kyle. So she says that she still speaks with Roger and that he is closest with her mother because she just can't cut him off. And he even came over for Thanksgiving. And he ended up saying he was going to be there for dessert, but he stayed till 1 a.m. Yeah. Yeah. It was amazing. My mom gave him a lap dance. It's a thing they do. What are you going to do? He said he couldn't go until he'd made 15 different apples into unique turkeys.

48:02Ben Mandelker: I was like, what are you talking about? and then he stuck toothpicks into all of them and gumdrops. And then, lo and behold, turkeys. In happier news, you've been photographed on the red carpet with an extreme cheese ball. I think his name is Sasha. What's that? And why isn't it Zan? Because you're fucking Zan, right? We all think you're fucking Zan, right? Everybody? Raise some hands. Me. Do you have Zan's number? And also, bravo, put the picture up on the screen. Don't make me have to look up this person. I was too lazy to look up this person. up but oh i looked him up weeks ago i think on crappy hour i look him up um he's an absolute cheese puff he's so to the ritual zone he's very handsome i don't know richel's oh just like rachel's boyfriend he's very handsome but he is a super cheesy guy i went to his youtube he's like oh this guy yeah fast the the inner spirit of the manifesting of the pink salt okay like oh okay yeah So I love this because they totally call her out for dating someone exactly like Amanda.

49:08And Amanda is cringing and it's so funny. Came from Cincinnati as, wait, is Rachel Zoe dating a life coach who sells online courses like Amanda? And Amanda's like, I went time.

49:21Ben Mandelker: um he's more of like a um um um like a mind body alignment sort of person type thing what like yeah so it's just another charlatan yeah so and he's like yeah it's like getting people to like a place of like centering forgiveness like like the goal is like you take all of your problems and then you hide them under a caftan and put a really, really long wig on, basically, I think that's what I'm getting from it. You haven't asked him what he does yet, have you? No, I don't really know. He's hot. He's hot, Andy. He's basically just someone who makes your text go from center to left or to right or full justification.

50:08Ben Mandelker: He's really into alignment. It's just text alignment. Andy is really bold You know how many times you've said he's just a friend Well he's like a very good looking tall friend Yeah Alright well moving on With a husband in prison And a 25 million dollar loss Oh Jesus Christ Andy God damn it These past few years have given Erica A million reasons to keep her God a million reasons too Jesus Christ But after years of walking on thin ice with Tom Erica finally found a man who melts this ice queen's heart. Let's watch this rancid human being. She's like, Jesus Christ, Andy, who wrote this? Like every line is a diss.

50:54Ben Mandelker: I know. And in my mind, I'm like, ooh, finally we're going to dig deep about who this guy is. And we can figure out, like, is he like MAGA? Is he not MAGA? What's going on? Can we clear up all these things? Or instead, we can talk yet again about Tom rotting in prison. And that's actually what we do. I'm like, why are we talking about Tom again? Okay, like this is like the fourth reunion in a row where we have to like find out how Erica feels about Tom. Like we, like I get it. Like I get it. Like I don't, I'm not curious about Tom anymore. Stop asking questions about what it was like to be married about to Tom.

51:29Yeah, so we do get into that. And Tom saying, were you nervous being on camera with Tom? She's like, oh yeah, because you know, what if I said the wrong thing? but he never thought I'd get on the show. After I interviewed, he said, you're never going to get that job. And then I got it. Suck it, Tom. I got the job and I'm still here. Yeah, so we talk about Tom. I'm with you. I don't need to talk about Tom anymore. So we go to commercial, Brace. We get it, yeah. Yeah, we go to commercial and we come back. And the commercial is, you told Sutton that visiting Tom won't give you closure, But if there was one question you could ask him, what would it be?

52:12And we come back from commercial. And Dorit goes, wow, that was a good question. Dorit goes, why? And Andy says, why? Oh, that's her answer. She says, why? My answer to that question is why? Why? Because if you think about it, it's a nearly impossible situation. Lawsuits and then this$25 million lawsuit. That's been going on for three years. They sued me for that right away. I mean, why did you leave me in this mess? I would have been like, why would you lie and hurt literal children and burn victims in order to pay for a gay club or 20 to feature me?

52:50Ben Mandelker: That's another good question. It reminds me of that Christmas movie about Richard Nixon. Frost Nixon? Yes. Isn't that where Nixon comes to life, but he melts in a greenhouse at the end? Not at all. I asked Nixon for a poony, and he gave me two peace signs. Never talked to that man again. Santa. That's when I knew Santa was dead until I met Piqui.

53:23Ben Mandelker: So Andy's basically saying, so if you lose these lawsuits, what do you do? Well, you can file for bankruptcy. You can pack the bus. You can fight it out in court. You can go to trial. You could try to understand what empathy means. You could DJ something. I don't know. Maybe go back to Italy. Never come back. Try to find more of that gelato. God, that gelato was good. I don't know. A lot of options. Okay, Dorit. In Italy, you questioned whether or not Erica was going through, quote unquote, a fuck ton. So surely you knew she was going through it. What do you mean by that? And Dorit's like, well, first of all, in Italy, everyone had a lot on my mind.

54:04I'm a single mother. A mother of a boy named Jiggy and some lady who won't stop coming to my door every day calling me mommy. There was no mention of a child in the weeks leading up to Italy. You know, and I found about it in the Hamptons from Rachel reading in the tabloids. And if there's no actual conversation about it between Erica and I, it's not going to be at the top of my wings. I'm not even thinking about it. Why would I?

54:30Ben Mandelker: she's like i saw that erica has a 25 million dollar lawsuit coming up and i've known about it for several years and i saw it was coming up in the tabloids but since erica hadn't mentioned it i'm like whatever moving on i mean yeah i actually kind of get in a weird way it's like you know if she wants to talk to me about it she can talk to me about it but i'm not gonna push her on this this is like a pretty heavy thing i do still think it was crazy that to read acted like erica had nothing going on in her life like i think that was i know i think to read the answer should have been andy i was saying you don't talk to me anymore you don't share anything i didn't know you had a boyfriend you don't share anything with me you treat me like i'm not even your friend you only talk to kyle so how am i supposed to my i was saying how am i supposed to know anything's going on if you don't confide in me anymore that's what she should have said but she's like Well, you know, Erica, 25 million here, 20 million there.

55:27Who knows anymore? It's been so long. I mean, how many seasons do we have to watch this, Indy?

55:32Ben Mandelker: I mean, Erica, have you ever had$30 ,000 in a Kit Kat bar stolen from you in Target? I don't think so. So I have a lot going on also. It's a lot of things in my life. My mind is very occupied. I've got my mind on the money and my money on the mind. Okay, so I'm sorry. I'm sorry, but I'm going through things too. Well, on the one hand, I can see that Doreen is, you know, I mean, look at her. She's an idiot. And she's got her own problems. She's self-involved. On the other hand, I've been talking about this shit for six years, okay? She's really, Erica? Really? Yeah. I mean, this case has been around a long time.

56:06Ben Mandelker: I like when she said that, you know, she's very self-involved. Doreen would give this look like me. As if she hadn't just said, I've got a lot on my mind. I can only focus on myself. But I'm self-involved. I don't think so. Yeah, you. How dare you? Yeah, you, because this case has been around a long time, and I'm expected to keep up with every fucking thing about it. However, we have talked about it. We're close. And that's why it hurts, because I love you, and I'm scared for you, and I don't want to overload you of my friends all the time. I know your brain can't handle it, your cute little sweet fake British brain, okay?

56:39Ben Mandelker: So I don't want to offload my problems onto you, Dorit. That's just the sort of friend that I am. Right. And so Dorit's like, well, I'm sorry you're going through it. Well, we all like, we also shouldn't have to like bring it up all the time in order for our friends to be sympathetic. Which by the way, of course, like when Erica and Dorit are like maybe just like ever so faintly approaching like a productive conversation. Here comes Kyle to smash it to pieces. Like we shouldn't have to bring it up all the time in order for our friends to be sympathetic. Like everyone has stuff going on in their lives.

57:10Ben Mandelker: And like, are you like so in your zone with your own issues that like you're not even thinking of other people's issues and their problems? I'm like, can you remind us who Nanny K is, Kyle? Or the name of Rachel's children. By the way, do you like how I am like, I'm so sick of talking about this stuff with Erica year after year. And meanwhile, I'm like, bring up Nanny K from like nine years ago. I'm like, remember when she didn't even remember Lisa Vanderbump's grandmother? I love it. And Dory, it's like, well, I'm telling you, you're wrong. You're wrong. So Rachel's like trying to follow. but you can tell Rachel's like, why am I even here?

57:46Like, does anyone want to ask me about my pillow line? Like, what is this?

57:51Ben Mandelker: Shouldn't I be in the, shouldn't I be in Surf Lodge with Zound? And also, Andy, again, this year, I've said multiple times, and Andy goes, oh, God, I know, I know, you're going through it, jeez. Okay, look, I get that Dorit can be annoying, but why are you still, like, wanting Erica to wallow in her Tom stuff every five minutes? But, it's like, come on. he's so dismissive of Dorit and now if I were to read I'd be pissed my the only thing I can imagine is you know we know that these things film for hours and hours and I have to imagine that Dorit was circling the drain with this this statement so many times that at this point and he's like okay enough to read enough I've heard it so many times but like out of context I feel like edited in this way it felt like Andy was just totally kicking her to the curb and I thought that was unfair yeah I wish Andy on a couple times because we need the yearly Andy am i boring you he's gonna do it don't worry hours yeah that's what i'm looking for uh so she's saying when she got to italy it was a different ball game he's like okay okay erica bringing you back to your current relationship miss living in the past decade how long has it been erica and she says that she's been with shrek for nine months and that the kid loves her because, of course, he's like G.I.

59:10Joe. I think she said G.I. John. Oh, yeah.

59:13Ben Mandelker: No, she said G.I. Joe. And Kyle's like, you should call him G.I. John. Sorry, I'm an actress. I sort of pick up a lot of writing techniques from the writers that I'm on set with. And then he goes, that's funny. I don't get it, but it's funny. He's like, well, I really enjoy this man. I don't have concerns with him like I did with others. I'm like, but what was his T-shirt that he wore? Slaughter things. this guy's wearing a teacher that says slaughter things and you don't have concerns and crocs you feel safe you feel safe i get it does he moisturize because that's half the battle yeah this guy's accused of a lot of stolen valor um but you know erica's not opposed to guys with stolen shit so she's like i love him he's great and then so they take a break and dorit starts going through her makeup bag and doing makeup.

1:00:05And Erica goes, oh, Dorit, is that the Chanel makeup bag I gave you years ago? She goes, you sure did. And that's how much you've meant to me. Because I'm using your makeup bag right now. And Erica goes, oh, really? Same. I was like, oh, okay. Is she not allowed to use the makeup bag you gave her when she's mad at you? Girl, get out of here. I can't cycle through things I can use when I'm mad at people.

1:00:34Ben Mandelker: so I wasn't sure what the point of that exchange was. Was, was Erica pointing that out to be like, Oh, look, see, we were friends. Or was she pointing out to be like, see, I gave you that. Either whatever it was, it was like, it, it was weird, but I enjoyed it. So now, um, Erica's just laughing. Cause she's gotten under Dorit's skin. So, um, we go to commercial. We come back. We're back. Uh, last year, Dorit iconically dragged a cigarette. and Kyle's like, oh, God. Yeah, but did she iconically drive a tiny car to get groceries with her daughter? I don't think so. But this year, her friends warned her not to drag PK too hard in public.

1:01:19Ben Mandelker: Oh, that was funny. So Andy's like, oh, okay. Well, and as Dorit's, if you thought the puns were done, Ronnie, you're wrong. They continue. As Dorit sought to be unburdened financially with a new book deal, She couldn't help but think that Kyle was reading, because I said book deal, right from PK's playbook. Let's watch. Or shall we read all along? Because it's fundamental. Sentences. Okay, this is done. Period. So, Drury, you said this season that everything Kyle was saying would come back to bite you in the ass, has it? Oh, yes, for sure. Let me tell you. when it was said that, you know, things on the show that were happening, you know, for example, I told Kyle I had Pringles at my house.

1:02:12Kyle told Piquet, I woke up with Pringles crumbs all over me, Andy. How do you think that looked when I had to go to my unboodin' shoot? Unboodin'? Unboodin'? I'm not unboodin', I'm covered in Pringles.

1:02:27Ben Mandelker: Andy, here's a perfect example. I was in the middle of Target and I called up Kyle and I put her on speakerphone and said, Kyle, I have$30 ,000 of cash right here in my Target basket. Now, excuse me while I go look at the threshold line of plates over here and leave my basket unattended. And then I came back and the money was gone. That is a direct consequence of Coyle. so she says that um things were relayed back to pk about dorit not doing well this year and spending too much money and dorit's like yeah basically kyle was saying that to mo and then mo reported back to pk and kyle's like um i never told mo or pk anything about that yeah well i did see you telling mo stuff about dorit and we even know we even mariso even sat down with marie's uh with dorit no no no i never said anything to either of them all i did was send some clown emojis and then that face emoji with like the spirals in the eyes and then maybe i sent um a gif that was like someone going cuckoo cuckoo cuckoo and then i put dorit's face and then i said like had a picture of like the joker being like but like i never said that she was erratic or anything like that it's just i just sent a picture of i just sent a picture of dorit and then i sent a meme from girl comma interrupted and then um um uh what's the meme of the girl like i'm poor help me i'm poor kristen wig in um girls trip just saying help me i'm poor i don't know what she's talking about yeah i was like totally supportive of her um even when i texted mauricio and pk on a group text and i sent a picture of the um taylor swift eras tour and then um i took a sent a picture of Ratatouille and then I sent a picture of the tick.

1:04:18Ben Mandelker: So, erratic. Yeah. Just three independent images. That's it. So then how did he get information that I'm not doing well on the show and that I'm spending too much? What, he's a psychic? Is he a psychic? Or as they say in Italy, is he a psychic? Psychic-a-doodle-y. So then Kyle's like, yeah okay like okay fine like but I like okay already said that erratic was the wrong choice of words what I meant to say is cuckoo for cuckoo puffs and like yeah well like what you didn't see was that the others were having the same discussion with me and like that part wasn't even shown so now never before seen footage and BSF also why is it okay for Kyle to blame editing and he usually hates that and here is Kyle like oh this is all editing everybody else said it but the editors left it out just to make me look bad and then And we see the never, it doesn't, by the way, it doesn't back up her point at all.

1:05:15It does not at all.

1:05:16Ben Mandelker: This is, does not, this is so far from an exoneration. This just shows how Kyle is such an embellisher because we see Rachel talking to Kyle in the Hamptons because I lost to Reed for like 45 minutes last night. Like I thought like I was going to have a heart attack. I was like, she's gone. She's been taken to another dimension. I was like looking for Christmas lights to see if she was going to like try to communicate with us. Like she was gone. Kyle goes, yeah, she disappears sometimes. Like, where'd you find her? Or was she like wandering the streets? Was she like naked in Southampton? Like what happened?

1:05:43Ben Mandelker: And she's like, you know, she was in the smoking section. And like, had I known that there was like a smoking section? I don't check that first. Like you can't do that. I'm like, this story just says that Dorit went into the smoking section and Rachel couldn't find her. So she was freaking out. It does not mean that Dorit was being erratic. And in fact, if anything, when Rachel says, if I had known there was a smoking section, I would have checked there first. that implies that Dorit did the logical thing that Dorit does, which is that she went to the smoking section and Rachel did not know where Dorit was because she was looking for everywhere else.

1:06:15Ben Mandelker: But Dorit did a very predictable thing, which is the opposite of being erratic. Exactly. So that's all they could dig up to save Kyle. And it didn't work, Kyle. Congratulations, you've reached the end of part one of a two-part recap. For part two, go look for the recap that says part two. See you over there, suckers. Watch what Crappens would like to thank its premium sponsors. Ain't no thing like Alison King. Our way is the Amber way. It's the Foster and the Furious. It's Amanda Foster. Whip up a meringue. It's Amanda E. Lemon. It's always automatic with Ashley Otto. Put your hands together for Carly Clap.

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