#3342 Southern Hospitality S4E09: Putting the Republic in the Dominican

0:25Ben Mandelker: Ben Mandelker the one and only, the joyous, the joyful, and the beautiful Ronnie Karam. Hi, Ronnie. How's it going? Hi. Hi. Ronnie and I are doing something cray-cray in June, which is we're going to New York City and we're putting on a cabaret. It's Forbidden Housewives, a Watch What Crappens cabaret, a crap-a-ray, and it's going to be on June 3rd and June 5th. Two shows. Seating is limited. Small small venue and a lot of tickets have been sold. So if you want to come join us, the link is on our website and it's also on our social media. So come join us. I think it's going to be a really, really fun and funny time.

1:11Ben Mandelker: We're just going to be laughing and singing songs and making fools of ourselves and having a good old time. So can't wait to see all of your faces there. And fun fact, Ben Rimelauer is the one who reached out for us to do this. And Ben Rimelauer is also the man who is behind Luann's, first cabaret so this is as authentic as it can get we made it we made it what else is going on with you Ryan?

1:37Ronnie Karam: June 3rd and the 5th and if you want this video if you want this recap on video or you want bonus episodes this week was Top Chef last week was Survivor who knows what next week is going to be who knows I don't go over to our Patreon that's also where you get our free weekly blog read what crappens that's really fun so you can sign up for that for free and that's that. What were you going to say?

2:01Ben Mandelker: I was going to say, I just want to make sure everyone knows this episode of Watch for Crappens will not have any stunt cameos by Mr. Beast. So you're A-OK. You're safe to all the Survivor watchers out there. No Mr. Beast on this episode. What's Mr.

2:18Ronnie Karam: Beast on? Is he coming on this week?

2:20Ben Mandelker: He was on last night's episode of Survivor.

2:22Ronnie Karam: Oh, I have to watch it the next day because I have YouTube TV and it won't show it to me here. It'll show me on my other time zone where I live. So I have to wait for it. So I haven't seen it. But I heard that it's going to be extended because of fucking Mr. Beast. I can't take that. Remember that last one with the country western guy? And he's like, I'm Luke Bryan or whoever the fuck that guy was. And we had to sit there and watch him talking about spearfishing for half an hour. Come on.

2:47Ben Mandelker: Mr. Beast was much better than Zac Brown. Mr. Beast was not there to be like, this is what I do. We didn't have to watch Mr. Beast to go spearfishing. Mr. Beast introduced a twist and a cause. Real men. There was a lot of wackiness.

2:59Ronnie Karam: Real men spearfish. Why feed a man fish if you could hand him a spear and watch him spear fish? And they're like, oh, my God, you're so amazing. Sing us a country song. And he'd be like, my fish. My fish is in a pickup truck. My fish loves that pickup truck. I was like, oh, my God, you're a slowly killing me episode. Yeah.

3:21Ben Mandelker: that was probably one of the worst moments in uh survivor uh or i should say one of the worst of the non-problematic moments in survivor history is watching 20 minutes of zach brown spearfish and talk to us about how important survivor is in his life um but yeah last night's episode was two hours but you could fast forward over like a good chunk of it um unless you want to sit and watch people bouncing uh balls on things but um but it was a good episode it's a good episode we probably won't recap it because it was so long and like we need to like spare ourselves sometimes with these super long episodes but it was a funny one and yeah you'll enjoy it you'll definitely enjoy it that's for sure

4:01Ronnie Karam: alright but today it's Southern Hospitality season 4 episode 9 sun's out shades out and

4:12Ben Mandelker: this one is going to be about Maddie's birthday last time was about Joe's birthday but this time it's about Maddie so um let's see what everyone's doing tj is making breakfast and sort of feeding a sausage to a picture of mia and then lake is at a grocery store trying to figure out vegetables she's like i can't have too much cheese because then i'll be on the shitter and now we have the boys michaels and brad and uh joey bottles and they're playing golf and um basically they're like oh my god like michaels you hitting that ball that's the straightest thing i've ever seen you do

4:51Ronnie Karam: yeah you guys this is like really good therapy right here like going from emo night to fucking

4:56Ben Mandelker: golf yeah we're doing that i loved it like i'm so grateful like how into it you guys got like that meant it meant the world to me which is so funny because i just realized that joe says that all the time it's like you giving me that straw right now for my coffee that meant the world to me thank you so much about the world well i think i was being a little dramatic about the whole 30 thing because like i don't even feel any different and i'm 30 now should i feel different my bump it still looks the same my skin still is only 22 so being a little bit dramatic but it meant the world to me that you guys all were patient with me i i know i made a lot of about this whole month because

5:36Ronnie Karam: it's my birthday and maddie's a leo and i feel like deep down it's like kind of eating her up that like, you know, where's my birthday party? So my buddy's getting us on a yacht and I'm going to have like a crazy pirate themed yacht party and I'm going to surprise Maddie with it.

5:52Ben Mandelker: Another year, another booty.

5:56Ronnie Karam: Yeah, I don't know about this. Maddie has probably already told him 20 times. I don't want to do anything, Joe. For my birthday, I don't want to do shit. That's what I want to do. But don't you want to do something? No, Joe, nothing. He's like, we're going to have a giant party. A giant party for Maddie.

6:14Ben Mandelker: Joe, tell me lies. Uh, okay. The sky is red. No, I want to watch Tell Me Lies in bed all day for my birthday. Oh. Why do you want to be told lies in your bed? Joe, it's a TV show. I can't follow.

6:27Ronnie Karam: So now it's time for Night Shift at Republic. People are partying and Mia shows up with a bunch of ladies, a bunch of sexy, sexy ladies. She's like, hey, everyone. These are my beautiful friends. What everyone likes to do, hang out with their friends where they used to work. Right, ladies? They're like, yeah.

6:45Ben Mandelker: Hey, ladies. You want to meet a bunch of guys in Tommy Bahama? Follow me, okay?

6:53Ronnie Karam: Please do not put us by the older ladies again. Hey, man, you want to come sit by us? We're getting sparklers again. Those things are fun.

7:02Ben Mandelker: I was really upset, and I have been upset, that all season long we have not seen the Cloris Leachman waitress. And especially I'm upset because it turns out that today would have been Cloris Leachman's birthday. So I felt like they should have thrown us a bone today. And also, amusingly, yesterday, what popped up in my social media timeline, because I guess I talk about it enough that the bots have listened and are serving me this important information. Yesterday was the 31-year anniversary of the final episode of Empty Nest. Whoa. It was served on Twitter. Wow, your algorithm really does know you.

7:41Ronnie Karam: Geez.

7:41Ben Mandelker: Yeah, I was like, on this day in 1995, the last episode of Empty Nest ever aired. And then there was, like, all these people that were like, what is this show?

7:52Ronnie Karam: But it doesn't know you well enough to serve it to you, like, on the 30th anniversary. It's only this random one, like the 31st anniversary.

8:00Ben Mandelker: Yeah. Stupid. So, um.

8:04Ronnie Karam: So, she comes with a bunch of her friends. And Lake is at the door. and Lake hates Mia. So she's like, oh, do they have a table? Okay, why are you stressed? Why are you stressed about this, Lake? She's like, they don't have a table. I don't want to put them somewhere. Mia sucks. And Mia's like, everybody VIP this way. Whatever, Lake. Whatever. Okay, okay. Whatever.

8:26Ben Mandelker: Mia's like, I have the haircut of a 45-year-old cougar and you have the personality of a 13-year-old girl. So between the two of those things, i'm just gonna ignore you right now okay bye and justin's like calm down link like

8:42Ronnie Karam: no they don't have a table you're not beyonce bitch like typically when you reserve a table you're gonna call ahead or email ahead don't walk up here in vip thinking you got a vip table this is republic so like this is this is it's full like we have seen you guys we saw you drag in eight octogenarians last week yeah off the street please stop acting like republic is always full

9:11Ben Mandelker: we know it's not it's it's not yeah lake is kind of being annoying now like i've been like a big fan of lake for a long time but she's being kind of annoying now so mia's like um i think she's forgetting who she's talking to i used to be at the front door and i used to be selling tables and this job is not rocket science like oh maybe she forgot because she only worked for five seconds. Both of you guys shut up. I'm not interested in your feud. It's just not good enough.

9:42Ronnie Karam: Just welcome to the bar, you guys. So they're taken inside. And meanwhile, Emmy's in the back. It's like, um, what's up, Pookie? You know, like, hi, Michaels. Like, you look like you have a thought or two. Like, what are you thinking? This is me, fun Emmy. It's very, and he just ignores her. And it's like, it is very obvious when Michaels, like, has a problem with anyone. and I I don't even know why like

10:10Ben Mandelker: so Michael tells us after email night I was getting a lot of spam text messages from Emmy like freaking out and like oh my god like here we go and then he like shows this like wall of text from Emmy like not even paragraphs it's just one long paragraph and then there's some attachments and this and that it just goes and goes and goes and he's reading he's like I'm being like and feeling like i wasn't allowed to feel unsafe and like i had every way every ride to feel the way i did and then she sent me like some chat gpt screenshots and then oh my god i can't even read this shit it's like too much like it's too much and emmy's like not thinking about how things that she's saying are like damaging to brad's reputation it's just like selfish at this point geez emmy god so she really is a disaster i mean seriously so you're texting another black guy to

10:59Ronnie Karam: what excuse your micro microaggressions against the other black guy come on she's she's basically

11:04Ben Mandelker: trying to get like she's trying to get someone of color to co-sign her to be like see i'm not racist because lucia said it's okay and uh michael said it's okay so it's okay right it's like i mean yeah like it's it's actually staggering how much she's been digging her heels into this like most people on TV have enough media savviness to realize, oh, okay, I should walk away. I should walk away from this stance right now. And she is just like doubling and tripling down. And I actually don't even like when people are like, it's because Will and her mom are getting in her ear. They may be, but this is also, she is a independent person.

11:45These,

11:45Ben Mandelker: this is on her. This is on her that she has really problematic stances. And it's extremely disappointing as someone who has been a fan of her in the past. it's like really disappointing that she cannot get past this yeah she learns nothing instead

11:58Ronnie Karam: she shows up and it's like hey guys um listen no drama today okay i don't want no drama in my life

12:04Ben Mandelker: okay oh god i mean i learned that from a song she's gonna start quoting black people now

12:15Ronnie Karam: she's like guys guys guys give me a break i sure could use it trying to make it to the top

12:20Ben Mandelker: am i right it was like guys rock the boat work the middle am i right am i right please don't

12:29Ronnie Karam: do that guys i don't want to fight i'm moving on up to the east side okay to a deluxe apartment

12:35Ben Mandelker: in the sky you guys wow your your your your access is really limited to black music uh emmy I went from Mary J.

12:46Ronnie Karam: Blige to just sitcom theme songs.

12:50Ben Mandelker: She was like, guys, guys, I just, this place used to feel like home for me. And there's no place like home. Do do. When your family's around, you ain't never alone. Am I right guys? Am I right?

13:03Ronnie Karam: So now it's a new day. Everyone's going to their pirate boat. They're all dressed like pirates. And Brad's wearing another wig. He's like, this is my second wig in a week. Like three days, like two wigs in three days. Huh? It's crazy. Yeah. This show's really, really killing it. So then, uh, at Maddie's we see Joe bringing her a birthday smoothie in bed and he's like, happy birthday. She's like, yeah. Um, there's the dog or whatever. Yeah. She's a Leo. It's her birthday too. So like, here's Olive. She's like, yeah, honestly, Joe, like I felt like it was already the worst day of my life. Like waking up nine in the morning.

13:40Ronnie Karam: I was like, oh my God, especially after your birthday weekend. So like I'm birthdayed out. The last thing I want to do is anything for my birthday. I just want to lay here in my bed and eat Uber Eats and bed rot.

13:51Ben Mandelker: Yeah. Or we could go on a boat and you could be surrounded by people engaging in the thing that you swore you'd never do again. So how about that? Yeah.

14:03Ronnie Karam: So he doesn't, any intelligent person would be like, listen, I'm so sorry. I made a huge mistake and planned you a party. What should I do? Do you want to go to the party? Should I just cancel it and tell them to enjoy the boat? Like, what should I do? I feel terrible. But instead he's like, no, you know what we should do? Like, you should get out of bed and then we should just go, like, have a romantic day together because we haven't spent a time together in a long time. She's like, oh, my God, Joe. That is so romantic, Joe. Okay, I'll get out of bed if I get to spend time with you. Just one-on-one time with Joe, which I haven't had in so long.

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17:23Ben Mandelker: the more I think about it. Like, Maddie Reese finds a puppy and is like, um, Olive! Like, I don't know why. Like, I just don't see her naming a dog Olive. I see her naming a dog Avicii or something, like, as a tribute. But like, I don't know. Like, the more I think about Maddie Reese deciding... Jazzy Jeff! The more I think... Jazzy Jeff.

17:51Ben Mandelker: It's a big bopper! I don't know why. It just says like, I may be alone in this, but if you really think about it, if you think about Maddie Reese thinking about olives, it's just a funny concept.

18:02Ronnie Karam: Well, it's also a drink garnish. So it's kind of a weird thing for a sober person to name, you know, it's like just things you're missing, like a twist. My other cat is named twist.

18:15Ben Mandelker: Rind. Shaker. Pearl onion.

18:24Ben Mandelker: Wait a second. Did someone say Pearl? There's no place like home. Emmy, get out of here.

18:31Ronnie Karam: I'm so excited to have a romantic day with you, Joe. Okay, thank you so much for that, for not having a party for me. He's like, okay, well, happy birthday. So on the boat, me is like, oh my God, she's going to be so triggered when she sees this. Don't let go of those balloons, okay? Please, we do not need a Maddie being triggered over balloons flying away thing, which I'm surprised we didn't see another scene of because they really love showing that. They showed it. Oh, they did. They showed it.

18:56Ben Mandelker: Yeah, they showed it.

18:57Ronnie Karam: I think you blocked it out. Or maybe you're distracted by Ali Bally. I was going to say, someone who could grab hold of those balloons and just fly away, Ali Bally is on the boat. Ali is really trying. I mean, she moved to Charleston. She's doing her best to hang out with this crew and get on TV. And God bless her. She just doesn't, she's just not very interesting. She can't even get on here.

19:17Ben Mandelker: Yeah. Part of me felt like this was a soft launch for her to take over Grace Lily's spot. because apparently Bella really is not working out. I didn't even realize that Bella was on the cast poster. It was like the entire cast looking all sexy around, like, you know, like Leva and everything. And then Bella's there. I was like, Bella?

19:34Ronnie Karam: You can't replace Grace Lily with Allie Bally. Like, Allie Bally has the personality of, like, a dishrag. You know, no offense. Like, she's a very nice dishrag.

19:45Ben Mandelker: William Sonoma dishrag.

19:46Ronnie Karam: Yeah, but, yeah, Grace Lily is Grace Lily.

19:50Ben Mandelker: like you need there's no replacing that yeah so um lake is telling us molly and mia are just like the popular mean girls that like to think that they run shit but actually know nothing and like my chakras are telling me to stay the fuck away i'm like you're the one who came at them you're starting it you guys exhibit things in your personality and you did this all because of jordan she was mad at molly because molly advocated for mia to go on a date with justin she's mad at mia for going on the date with justin she's just getting mad at these people all on behalf of jordan and jordan's just sitting there you know girl crying under trees is that what you said is that what you said a few weeks ago she's just a girl crying under trees stay under the tree

20:37Ronnie Karam: just give her some sympathy rouge and just watch her dab her face to death like what are you gonna

20:42Ben Mandelker: to do let her go back to her her young adult novel and you can go forward and have fun on the pirate

20:48Ronnie Karam: ship yeah so lake is bitching to ali she's like oh my god she hates me anyway and ali says yeah i feel that energy so yeah i feel it so mia's like yeah i've never seen a girl be so mad at me for like no fucking reason like it's ridiculous like what the fuck and uh emmy's like maddie doesn't even fucking drink and this is a booze cruise it's like a booze cruise it's a booze cruise for somebody that doesn't even drink i mean that was one of my first thoughts i was like they're all

21:18Ben Mandelker: gonna get drunk on a boat for maddie i was like that doesn't make any sense it's joe joe is just

21:22Ronnie Karam: not a very he's sweet he's thoughtful in that he's gonna throw a party for somebody but not thoughtful of like what kind of party they would enjoy or you know anything anything like that

21:36Ben Mandelker: He's thoughtful, but maybe not diligent. Or thoughtful, maybe not detail-oriented. Thoughtful, but not... He's thoughtlessly thoughtful, if that makes sense. He really is the sweetest guy. We met him at BravoCon, and he was so sweet. He was like, I got to thank you guys, because no one was watching us at first, and you guys really were on our back, and it meant the world to me. He was just so lovely. He's like a sweet, sweet guy, but I think he doesn't know his connect dots.

22:08Ronnie Karam: No, he's not a dot connector. So, um, Michael's is everybody's like, she doesn't want this party. Like, why are we doing this for her? And Emmy's like, yeah, I wouldn't fucking kill. Well, if he did those for me. Well, thankfully we'll, we'll never do anything special for you. So you're, you're lucky there. Okay.

22:28Ben Mandelker: Yeah. The if is a big if, I mean, the closest you got was getting, uh, you know, know, driven around on a speedboat last year, like under the bridges, under like the Ravenel bridge. So that way, Will could prove to America that he isn't cheating on you. But yeah, I don't see Will commissioning any yachts for Emmy anytime soon. Nah.

22:45Ronnie Karam: So they're like, yeah, maybe Joe should just take her on the boat alone or something. Meanwhile, Maddie and Joe are in the car coming over and she's like, oh my God, Joe, all summer we haven't done anything romantic together. So I'm glad we finally get to do something romantic. He's like, yeah, you're going to love this. It's going to be amazing. It's just going to be me and you and you're going to love that.

23:04Ben Mandelker: We're going to go kayaking. Like, you know, what's also sad is that like, why not just lie and say, um, I got us like an afternoon cruise around the harbor, you know, like the kayaking is like, you're not even going to work. There's not even going to be a kayak visible. You know, it's like, there's not, you're not going to get like, there's no kayak.

23:25Ronnie Karam: Sure enough. They start walking up and she goes, um, I'm not seeing any kayaks, Joe.

23:31Ben Mandelker: It's like, think it through. Imagine what's going to happen when she approaches the dock. He's like, no, I think the kayaks are on the other side of the boat. Just on the other side. Yeah.

23:39Ronnie Karam: We're going hot air ballooning. You're going to love this. We're just going to go to the boat dock.

23:46Ben Mandelker: We're going to go on a helicopter ride, but first you have to go to the docks.

23:50Ronnie Karam: So they all hide on the boat to surprise her. And they do. They surprise her. And they start screaming, and they're all pirates. And she's like, oh, my God, Joe. I did not want this Joe like Joe I wanted a private thing like after your weekend I just really wanted to fucking chill he's like but I planned it a long time ago so come on just do it

24:09Ben Mandelker: babe I love this show it's so funny the stupid things they do so Maddie is like she's like I do not like surprises and if there's a surprise I want to be warned okay Michael's like oh my god Come on, get your booty up here. So they like get on there and he's like, huh, I think I might be walking the plank on this one. Power joke. Yeah. She's like, I really thought we were going kayaking. I thought we were going to the boat marina to go kayaking.

24:37Ronnie Karam: I don't want to say that Joe Epic failed because like I'm sure he put like a lot of work into this, but like, yeah, he failed. He failed.

24:45Ben Mandelker: Don't say that in front of lava though. So they get on board and there's balloons and everything. And man's like, okay, fine. so where's my pirate outfit did you get me a pirate outfit he's like uh please tell me there's a pirate outfit joe joe did you think to get me a pirate outfit oh it's in my truck because i thought we're gonna go back to the truck afterwards why did you not put it in your day bag and be like yes well those or why don't you have one of like why didn't you have emmy bring the pirate outfit there so that way she had something to change into like come on joe i was honestly thinking about this the entire time i was like how's she gonna get into a pirate outfit it's like i'm not

25:26Ronnie Karam: gonna lie to you like i kind of understand how grace lily feels right now because i'm the only fucking person here not in costume at a costume party and like it's it sucks told you nine and a half of you dumb bitch

25:40Ben Mandelker: great silly just floats by on another boat a tulum boat so um joe's like oh god i'll put this on like a power ranks of how joe fucked up like right below the balloons and i'm about to jump overboard so bella's like that's okay you look pirate enough who are you i'm bella i thought you were ella no i'm i'm bella ella's back it's fine just call me ella it's okay it's i'm just happy to be here she has a point though because

26:08Ronnie Karam: maddie does kind of dress piratey anyway like she loves a headscarf that matches her outfit you know so the boys are all sitting around and um justin is holding an inflatable sword and he's

26:19Ben Mandelker: like this looks like a dick oh justin like a what and he's like yeah like tell me when it stops at tj because he's like putting his finger around to be like how big is it is it this big this big this big and you know michael's like oh my god no so tell me like what's going on with like charlie and he's like yeah i think charlie's the one i think i'm gonna propose to charlie really all right we'll talk to you in about like a month you just got tj'd and charlie told him that she really likes him but let's see how dr goes so wait they're leos so that means their birthday this is like

26:57Ronnie Karam: July, right? So when was Southern Charm shooting? That's what I need to know. Was this when she was dating Craig? I want to know the timeline. Yeah.

27:09Ben Mandelker: Alright, Mark Anthony. I need to know. So Brad is... I actually really don't remember. Well, they had a July... Did they have a July 4th party on Southern Charm? They had a Memorial Day party. They had a Memorial Day party, remember? So that's in May, right? So I feel like Southern Charm finished in June, somewhere in June. And then this show picked up.

27:34Ronnie Karam: Okay. Okay. So that makes sense. I just didn't know if I had to fight for Craig because I will not see my innocent little Craigie being cheated on.

27:41Ben Mandelker: Okay. No.

27:42Ronnie Karam: Because you know this audience, the Southern Charm audience is Vish. Like they will come for Charlie. They will rip her to shreds.

27:50Ben Mandelker: So I just want to make sure I go something about being bullied. Sure. It was like just the other day. It was like, okay, so it was Southern Charm Star. It was in a Forbes article two days ago. He says he's opened up about being severely bullied as a teenager, which he says helped him develop resilience against modern online trolling. So this is something he'll be talking about in his book. So guys, when you see Craig screaming at a woman every season, just know hurt people, hurt people.

28:24Ronnie Karam: He was bullied, you guys. It's really hot being a young, wealthy, hot.

28:30Ben Mandelker: Fake lawyer.

28:31Ronnie Karam: Straight guy. The world. So hard. So Joe is attempting to put on an eye patch, but he can't do it and somehow breaks it. And they're cracking up. So they're all congratulating him on at least making an effort. And the balloons start moving. He's like, no, no, no. They can't blame the balloons on me. Oh, my God. Please. Does anybody have proof that I just saved the balloons? Please tell me, Annie. Come at it.

28:56Ben Mandelker: Just say the blondes. Say the blondes. They give her some non-alcoholic rosé. And Maddie's like, 28 motherfuckers. And Michael's like, yo, no, you're pushing 30. And Lake is like, yeah, she's 28. Like, what are you doing tomorrow for your actual birthday? He's like, we're working at Republic, okay? We are. Are you serious? Are you serious? I'm DJ fucking Maddie Reese. are you serious i just turned 28 yeah well because we're going on the trip we're gonna have fun next week it's a trip for your djing but i'm gonna make it into like a trip for me so get ready

29:35Ronnie Karam: yeah so they talk about planning the trip and his family's there and growing up he would go over there in the summer and stay in the house his grandma owns because they have a bunch of mango trees and emmy's like mango trees oh my god i'm sorry i love mango you guys but he hates her so So he just like gives a little pause and just looks at her like, anyway, back to my story about growing up in the DR. So yeah, our next door neighbors.

30:01Ben Mandelker: I love going to the doctor. We're connecting right now, Michaels. We're connecting, right? Right, right, right. Doctor, DR.

30:06Ronnie Karam: Okay. So the next door neighbors, their daughter and their son used to come in our backyard and like steal the mangoes at night.

30:13Ben Mandelker: Oh my God. I love that skit on Saturday Night Live, Mango. You want the mango? Oh my God. It was so funny, right? Right, Michaels? Remember? We're friends. High five. High five, Michaels. High five.

30:20Ronnie Karam: Nope. and my sister was like obsessed with the mangoes and she would like fight the girl off because she would come in the backyard and try to steal our mangoes oh my god i would do the same shit i would

30:31Ben Mandelker: do the same thing because i'd be like oh my god give me my mango give me my mango i'd be like no you can't take my mango right oh my god look at me i'm a white lady talking to a black man okay i can i can do it i can do it i can do it guys he was like um i think that anchor was put down

30:45Ronnie Karam: and he's like oh my god i love anchors don't you don't you michaels god i have so much in comment with the community.

30:50Ben Mandelker: Oh my god my favorite anchor Don Lemon. Right? Right guys?

30:55Ronnie Karam: Give me a break I so called you there trying to make a

31:00Ben Mandelker: like Emmy please stop.

31:02Ronnie Karam: So they all go frolic in the water and stuff and Emmy talks to Maddie. She's like um Michael is clearly upset with me about something. I mean like he's pushing me away. Like like he pushed me away. It was like abuse. It was like abuse how he pushed me away. Like, I could have fallen over. He tried to murder me. I could have fallen over the boat. I could be drowned right now.

31:25Ben Mandelker: It was, I felt unsafe. He was, like, stalking me with his hands on my chest. So, Emmy's like, I am experiencing firsthand what Michael's did to Lake. He has a bad habit of going quiet, giving people the silent treatment, and I am on a phone dressed as a pirate. I'm on a boat dressed as a pirate. Do we really have to ignore me today? And then they show that she's actually not dressed as a pirate at all. She's just dressed like normal emmy do you even know everything that went down on like joe's birthday

31:55Ronnie Karam: manny did you even hear about it and she's like um no but like i did see me and lake like fighting and you know going at each other and then he's like yeah i wasn't part of that but like julia like julia pulled me into the alley it was terrifying and just like started like going at me like baseball bats there was like a whole gang of people back there like they put it back over my head. I like, I was in a warehouse. I was like, where am I? Like make a video for your mother demanding money. You know, it was terrifying.

32:25Ben Mandelker: Maddie goes, but the fact that you didn't react is really good. And I say that as someone who has no idea what happened back there. She goes, well, I did. I mean, I called her a fucking cup fitness when she walked away and the entire night, Michael didn't talk to me at all. And then he sat next to Brad and Julia and Mia and the entire fucking night. Like, I don't know. I like, I don't know. Well, have you tried to text him or talk to him? yeah I mean I texted him and I expressed to him I was like everything I was like why won't you talk to me and please stop making me feel unsafe and then this is like Michael's and like you know you're like my best friend and you're supposed to be like a ride or die like you're supposed to protect me okay protect me Maddie says yeah but you know like I feel like this hits home for him like personally you know what I mean do you understand what I mean by that and I mean it's

33:11Ronnie Karam: I mean what what and she says yeah I don't know how Emmy expects Michaels to defend her when he's someone of color who's also personally affected by this I mean loyalty is important but like blind loyalty like you just run into walls like no one chooses that you know so I'm not doing that and Emmy's like um you're on my fucking list my wedding like that's how you treat me like it's I'm saying like two plus two is five. It's fucking five.

33:42Ben Mandelker: Oh, God. I feel sorry for anyone who is part of Emmy's bridal party. Because the fact that she's like, it's my wedding. If I say two plus two is five, then you do it. If I say jump, you say how high. I'm like, bye. We're not friends anymore. Yeah, goodbye. Enjoy your wedding.

33:55Ronnie Karam: Have fun in your miserable marriage with your cheater husband. And Maddie says, wait, but two plus two equals four, right? She goes, that's my point. That's my point. Don't you understand? where does nobody understand me?

34:11Ben Mandelker: So then, oh my God, why isn't Mia a real pirate? Because she has no booty, ha ha. And now Emmy is like, well, you know what? I know this might not be the birthday party of your dreams, but we should go downstairs and hang out with everyone. So they hang out and it's like, oh my God. And Maddie now is dressed like a pirate because she basically took some tipple claws and turned it into a pirate's hat. They're like, wow, you did it, Maddie. We did. And she's like, yeah, of course I did. Of course I did. So that's the end of the birthday party. It was a fun time. But now it's time to pack for Punta Cana.

34:45Ben Mandelker: Punta Cana.

34:47Ronnie Karam: Punta Cana. PK's favorite place. Here we go.

34:52Ben Mandelker: The Punta Cana, babe. That's the way you go. Wait. Punta Cana? Was that what? Yeah. That's the way you go. Punta Cana. Was it Punta Cana? Punta Cana. Punta Cana.

35:02Ronnie Karam: Punta Cana.

35:03Ben Mandelker: So everyone's packing. and everything and it's like oh my god this speedo like it doesn't even have a liner like everyone's gonna see my junk oh god that's like scary oh like it's a speedo so uh him and uh

35:19Ronnie Karam: maddie talk and she's like um like i don't know like i i originally brought this like net top thing but maybe i shouldn't uh no he did he's saying i i bought a net uh net top but i shouldn't have my pepperoni nipples out so they're talking about what they're packing and um how he's not talking to emmy and he's like yeah i've done a lot of like realization um like i just i'm not going to be your bodyguard or your mouthpiece you know and i'm over it like i'll have a conversation but after that like i'm having a fun trip yeah i'm michaels i'm known for like making sure things

35:54Ben Mandelker: are fun. Okay. So it's gonna be a fun trip. Commercials. Here comes one right now.

36:06So now

36:06Ben Mandelker: we go to Grace Lily and Leva and they're meeting up outside of Zachary's Zachary's. Although at first I was like is it called that or is it called Zach's Axe? Zach's Axe.

36:16Ronnie Karam: To those in the know it's called Zach's Axe. Okay.

36:19Ben Mandelker: This is gonna be an episode where Leva is going to check in on Grace Lily and Grace Lily is gonna talk about her struggles with substance abuse. And I'm so glad they're doing it at a daiquiri establishment. At a bar. Yeah.

36:32Ronnie Karam: Leva's like, we will get some publicity for my scene, even if it's talking to you about your addictions.

36:37Ben Mandelker: Yes.

36:38Ronnie Karam: No, we cannot go get ice cream. Because that's what you do on Bravo when you have an addiction. You go get ice cream. Everybody knows that. But she's like, no, you will sit in front of 37 different churning, brightly colored, and also geared towards children, and Grace Lily is basically a child. It's like all these brightly colored things so anyway great she's like how have you been great she's like oh my god i'm good i'm taking it day by day you know how life is life's always laughing you wake up in the morning it's morning out there the sun came up i said hey son what you doing told me to fuck off sun can fuck itself this is what i say so what the sun do for me lately tried to give me cancer

37:19Ben Mandelker: you know what life goes on but so do we just how we do it is no mystery right lava anyway so Leva's like yeah um well I didn't want to make any assumptions about what's going on with you but like talk to me and she's like yeah well it's kind of hard to talk about to be honest but I feel louder being more honest about my past and basically Grace tells Leva that she is you know she hasn't been honest really about what's been going on with her but that she has been you know dealing with ketamine you know abuse and substance abuse etc and Leva's telling us that like Like, Grace used to be full of sparkle and life and joy and all these wonderful things.

37:58Ben Mandelker: And then she started, a darkness descended on her. She started to become sadder. She became unreliable. She got into a fight. They had to let her go. And Grace is saying that she's now sober. She's doing better. She's not in her bed sleeping all day. She's not depressed. She's sort of like she's in therapy again. And she's on the up and up.

38:16Ronnie Karam: Yeah. And Leva asks if she's seeing someone. She's like, I am. I'm in therapy again. So that's good. well i meant dating i'm my therapist yeah it's super healthy um so you're really the first one to know that i admitted to it you know like i admitted it to you and you are the first one to know so congratulations it hasn't even gone out on the gram yet so that's um good for you you know

38:41Ben Mandelker: good for you you're like my big sister almost like my second mom almost like my grandma i mean you're so old level you're just like a big old granny it's like you go to the natural history museum and you see those fossils, but it's you and you're alive and you run a bar, but you're a fossil. That's what you are. So it really means a lot to me that you met me here.

38:59Ronnie Karam: It's like, uh-huh. Okay, great. Thanks. Yeah. And I respect you. I love Republic. I'm not going to lie. You know, I love, I'm just getting dressed up and like looking cute and walking in there on those tables, you know? And so if I were to come back to Republic, I really hope we can be cool again, you know? So my schedule, what's my schedule like? I can't work on Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday, Tuesday. The days that end with the day, as they say. You know, but otherwise, I'm just ready to go. Ready to do this. So let's do this thing. Put some money in my pockets. Get some lip liner. Come on.

39:35Ben Mandelker: Yeah, I don't think this is a great environment for you unless you're okay cleaning out a daiquiri spinner. But I think, unfortunately, I don't know. Maybe we should rethink this. Um, hey, I'm getting a phone call from a, from a, that's a potato salesman. Gotta check on the potatoes. I'm just going to back away from this very slowly. Grace, I let you have a scene. Talk to you later.

40:03Ronnie Karam: Well, I've got another call coming in. Could you hold on? Listen here, potato seller. Motherfucker. You better back off, Margaret. I'm having a conversation with Levis. Stop trying to ruin my. Wow. You know, the potato seller. Hell yeah. um so it's my therapist actually this is the therapist i'm fucking so love is like yeah i don't know if this is a good space for you to be like you know drugs and alcohol and then a bar she's like oh but it is it is you know it just wasn't at one point you know but i can manage it better now and i'll prove that to you you know however you know however you feel is what we're gonna go with so you feel like putting me on the schedule that's great i'll go with that i'll go with that sure i'll work there again okay okay twist my arm okay i'm back employee of the month what yes okay fine i'll do it you know i miss you guys so dearly i miss the group you know it's one

40:57Ben Mandelker: thing you know one thing i kind of do get down and out about i just feel so sad she's like yeah i saw that you weren't at joe's birthday she's like oh yeah and i wasn't at maddie's birthday and haven't really been part of anything but i'm hoping i can maybe hang out with some people tonight yeah they're in the dominican republic oh yeah i wasn't invited to that so i'm like could you like not send her into a relapse please love is just like twisting the knife she's like okay well you know what i will save this for you um card reading you know like i when i saw you

41:32Ronnie Karam: card reading i was like whoa i told everybody i was like that is something that grace should like really go after you know something flaky doesn't actually have to have an education or any kind of real knowledge you just sit there and make shit up and take people's money you know like maybe you could do it in a day club you know day clubs that just you know have random people coming around asking for money you could wear a headscarf you know they could have events you know less about vip and more about the grace experience you know just somewhere where you could just be you know yourself and by the way what happened to you and joe and maddie weren't they kind of

42:09Ben Mandelker: like your people aren't you best friends and she's like oh yeah so there was this joke i said that it's kind of taken out of joking terms you know where i asked if maddie ever fucked joe in the ass if she ever pegged joe so and i said i thought i heard that isn't he a sissy boy no i'm not joking for real he likes it up the butt what's wrong with you are you in a lavender marriage things like that she didn't really like that so much so i don't really want to repeat it again because like I don't want to hurt their feelings. So it was just something that came out like word vomit. Yeah.

42:45Ronnie Karam: I don't want to say anything that's going to make Joe butt hurt, you know, because he's got enough of that because he takes it up the butt a lot. So, you know, I was just thinking maybe keep that between us. And Lava tells a story. She's like, you know, I've always really loved Grace Lily. I remember this one time we had her to a management meeting on Zoom and she showed up in a string bikini. I just remember texting her and saying, Grace Lily, put a shirt on. It was, yeah, great. She's like, I can do this, Leva. I can do it, okay? I can do it. She's like, yeah. Well, look, you made a joke that hurt Maddie's feelings.

43:18Ronnie Karam: Yeah, mm-hmm, mm-hmm. But have you said, can we talk? She's like, well, I have texts. I have texts. You know, I have texts that I've reached out, you know, even the night after. Every day. Every day after. You know, I text her. Most of them say, you're a stupid bitch. I'm going to fucking kill you in your sleep. But, you know, I mean, have you ever worn pajamas to, have you ever worn not pajamas to a pajama party? It's hurtful. It's hurtful. It's her fault

43:41Ben Mandelker: Maybe just like write her a letter Like an old school letter Okay like Q No no Like you actually take a paper And pen Okay G When I say write her a letter It's a thing that you put in an envelope Oh got it

44:04Ronnie Karam: G Lily that's the alphabet Nailed it okay I will accept that race. Thank you. You know, it's been over a month since I touched ketamine. And, of course, there's, like, maybe times where I get triggered, you know, or I resort back in old ways or whatever. But you know what I do now? I therapize. I journalize. I meditate eyes. Hula hoop. Give me a hula hoop. You know what I'm saying now? Where's that AA? H-H. Hula hoop, hula hoop addiction. You know, that's what I got now. And it's real good, you know. So, okay, I'll see you at work, Leva. She's like, oh, you're not hired. Okay, see you. I will take over.

44:40Ronnie Karam: I will take over. Zach said, Grace Lillis Daiquiri's. You're welcome.

44:46Ben Mandelker: Doesn't rhyme. So then, oh, now it's travel day. Now it's time for everyone to go to Punta Ghana. So they are meeting at the Charleston airport. And Emmy is like, I can't wait to get on this flight. We're going to Punta Ghana. I want to go to fucking dance. I want to go eat some tacos. And the producer's like, it's not Mexico. Okay, I want to have some enchiladas. Still not Mexico. Fajitas, not Mexico. Gorditas, not Mexico. Burritos, not Mexico. Tacos, you already said that. Still not Mexico.

45:20Ronnie Karam: Jerk chicken is jerk chicken, right? They're like, no, that's not Dominican either. And she goes, okay, well, we don't talk about the food.

45:30Ben Mandelker: Good to see that she's spreading it out in different areas. You know what?

45:36Ronnie Karam: she's not specifically targeting anybody she's just awful to everybody so yeah it's all just a

45:42Ben Mandelker: big it's all just a big haze to her outside of charleston and her experience so now maddie

45:49Ronnie Karam: is packing and we see them all get on the plane and who's upgraded who's not upgraded but here we are we're in punta canna so mia's saying oh yeah i've never been to the dominican republic like i'm a caribbean girl okay like my entire mom's side of the family is from trinidad and tobago and i was born there and i was raised there and then i moved to belize with my dad who was living there which is why i have you know wire that i fight with i don't know if i mentioned that but yeah um like being different cultures it's like who i am i just i love it absolutely love it

46:21Ben Mandelker: and justin tells us hey you know what i've never been to the dr but a part of me thinks that i've been here vicariously because i've had a couple of dominican girlfriends i love dominican food So it feels right being here in Santa Domingo. They're like, you're not going to Santa Domingo. Then going to San Juan. That's in Puerto Rico. Cape Town, South Africa.

46:44Ronnie Karam: Burrito. Nope.

46:48Ben Mandelker: Zachary's Daiquiri's.

46:49Ronnie Karam: Jerk chicken. So now they get into the Sprinter van and Michael's is speaking in Spanish. And Brad's like, oh, yeah, he's going to be showing off this whole trip. What is that? Greek?

47:01Ben Mandelker: no it's i don't think it's him showing off not greek mexican well that's not really a language so then they get like no one gets it no they're all zero zero people on this trip get it they don't understand what's happening so michael says the last time he was in the dr was when he was seven and um he's really excited about it and then he goes it really sucks that michaels and i aren't like on good terms because like this is his history this is where his grandmother lives this is where he buys all his shirts uh you're not at the banana republic you're at the dominican

47:40Ronnie Karam: republic oh oh side question why don't they sell bananas i mean you're walking through them all you want a snack, you see banana, you go ask for a banana, and they're like, we don't have that here. Fuck.

47:58Ben Mandelker: Um, well, I'm hoping I can show you guys a little bit about my family tomorrow, guys. I was thinking about doing a thirst trap in my childhood home. So then

48:08Ronnie Karam: they go to the resort, and it's gorgeous, of course. And they're like, so are you guys coming to celebrate something special? And they're like, yeah, DJ Matty Reese is in the house.

48:21Ben Mandelker: it's honestly hard for me to like truly have fun until the gig is over like what if i go to press play and i hit pause by accident what if i go to hit play and i hit stop by accident what if i go to hit play and i just don't hit play or what if i hit play and then it plays properly like it's a lot of things to think about when i hit play i have this dream that i press play and it like sets off the nuclear button like what the hell really fucked this one up joe you fucked it up

48:46Ronnie Karam: joe i fucked it up so michael's talks about how this is crazy different because they're in this gorgeous resort and he's like yeah this is not how i grew up he says we were showering outside with the hose like we didn't have a car so like my grandma would drive her friends or she would have our friends come pick us up on motorcycles and we'd like ride on the back of motorcycles

49:06Ben Mandelker: and stuff and uh justin's like well as they say in spanish la playa like okay thank you you read a word so then michael's like i'm a bougie bitch i can't complain i'm excited to be here um by the way it's best to keep me and lake separate because i don't need to be breaking up any fights on this

49:26Ronnie Karam: trip even if it's just like the you know like a cat fight so mia is um they're just taught mia is talking to tj and brad about how um it's a good group and they're gonna have a good time blah blah And then Emmy is in her villa. And she's like, this is my dream vacation. Like, just you guys and nobody else. Just us and our good friend, local food burritos. Cannot wait. Cannot wait. You guys, I thought of a really good idea for this town called the Dominica Republico, whatever it is. I am going to bring them burritos. Did you know these are the only Mexicans that don't eat burritos? Like, what the hell?

50:10do we ever figure out what dominie can do what well they say like dominie can but like can what

50:17Ben Mandelker: like what can dominie do like why don't you finish the sentence right okay i mean we're

50:22Ronnie Karam: gonna send you back to charleston um and the other villa mia is asking where michaels is and they're like joking that he's going to be fucking tj the whole time and brad's like so do you not want to hang out with the girls mia what's going on and molly's like well the only person i feel awkward around is lake i mean it's her issue with me that she's created so i'm good i mean i have absolutely no idea why like doesn't like me i don't know if it's because of me and jordan if it's because my resolved conflict with jordan i mean emphasis on a resolved at this point they should make a sport out of hating me molly is always talking like she's got these amazing lines, but they never come out amazing.

51:05Ronnie Karam: But she does deliver them very well.

51:07Ben Mandelker: I think Molly thinks, and actually the nicest way possible, not in an obnoxious way, but I think she's getting feedback from the producers that she's in the center of the season right now. She's just not. She's like, oh my god, this feud with Lake, am I right, America? And we're like, sure. She's like, I mean, it's really fucking annoying that I got my ass handed to me for being a quote unquote bad friend when you're going around to fuck O'Sheen someone who's not on this season and shows up for like a few seconds in an episode. Am I right America?

51:44Ronnie Karam: Yeah. Lake called Jordan the other day and was like people are finding out about O'Sheen and me and that girl having a threesome.

51:52Ben Mandelker: They're like what? And so here's the scandal because it's like okay here we go. Mia tell us everything okay guys let me get this straight so asheen has a girlfriend and lake went home with him but lake is mad at me for going out with the on a date with a guy justin who's up with jordan like a couple of times not even boyfriend girlfriend oh my god and justin's like the

52:18Ronnie Karam: absolute hypocrisy i mean hello like am i the twilight zone here like am i losing it here and Brad's saying, yeah, I mean, she's holding all of you accountable because all of you are bad friends, all of you, but not her. And he's like, okay, well, I mean, I guess, like, who has the longest term friends out of anybody running here? Okay, us. Us, guys. We win. We win.

52:39Ben Mandelker: Yeah. It's the Ruiners crew. So now, the DJ coordinator, Juan, comes to meet up with Maddie and Joe and he's like, okay, everyone, I want to explain about the event. Come on, follow me. He's like, go take a tour and they look and Maddie's just like, really excited to be doing this, getting back on stage. And she's going to be like floating in the middle of a pool. They're going to put a little podium up. And she's like, but what about my equipment? It's going to get wet, which is her ongoing storyline. Like my equipment can get wet Joe. That's like every episode. My equipment got wet. It's going to get wet.

53:08Ben Mandelker: It might get wet.

53:09Ronnie Karam: Joe. Oh yeah.

53:12Ben Mandelker: So now let's see, what do we do for dinner reservation at 7 PM and they're getting ready. And Michael's is going to put on some jorts and Justin FaceTimes with Charlie. And he's like, hey, what time is it in Charleston? I didn't even know if there was a time difference. And Charlie goes, well, there very well could be. I'm like, you know, there's a way to figure that out. You can share what time it is with you. And then you could share what time it is with you. And if there's a difference, then you know, there's a time difference. But Charlie's like, there could be a time difference. I guess we'll never know.

53:45Ronnie Karam: No way of finding out. And Justin's like, yeah, it's a single kind of vacation. I'd be having a field day. but my connection to Charlie has just been so strong. I mean, it's been a week and a half, but her show's bigger than mine. So I'm going to be cool to her.

54:03Ben Mandelker: He goes, yeah, it's 5.56 type shit. You know, 5.56, that's that time of day that I think about you the most. Did you know that? 5.56? She goes, really? 5.56? Yeah. That's when I feel the loneliest. At 5.56. Oh God, this guy, the way he is just like full of bullshit at all times. He already admitted that he pretended to get locked out of his house. So that way he could sleep with her. And now he's coming up with this line. Yeah, it's 5.56. Oh, I wish I knew what time it was here in Charleston.

54:32Ronnie Karam: Let's go to wacky, silly times with TJ and Justin hiding in credenzas. So that's fun. They can, you know, fit in there, which is crazy. And Justin's like, whoa, is this what it feels like to be trapped in the closet, TJ? How would I know? It's never in a closet.

54:50Ben Mandelker: they don't even do this right they like climb into the credenza they hide and then like joe comes like joe comes in and then brad is standing there what brad's supposed to do is just go to the other room to do something and then the guy's supposed to startle joe but instead brad goes

55:05Ronnie Karam: hey look in the credenza kind of ruining it there brad that's not how you surprise someone whoa that was crazy because like i wasn't even expecting it i'm like there's no way like you sick fucks like these guys are weirdos they can get in credenzas yeah because because joe literally

55:22Ben Mandelker: literally is like where are tj and justin and brad says check the credenza so he walks up really slowly and he's like oh they're in the credenza yeah joe all right so now michael's goes to emmy's

55:35Ronnie Karam: store and he's like um hey i wanted to ask if you wanted to go to chat before we go to dinner because like i don't want a conversation across the dinner table it's like um yeah let's go on the porch okay go ahead go ahead oh my god you look so cute by the way that is so so cute okay go ahead talk you can say anything to me you can say absolutely anything to me um oh well not so loud not so loud whoa god feeling attacked okay all right um okay well

56:05Ben Mandelker: uh what i just like want to say is i think my biggest thing is that like i don't want what happen with Lake to happen with like me and Emmy. And I just would rather just like get on the same conversation. So, okay. Um, can you just like, tell me, um, what it is that I did that was like wrong and, and you know, whatever. And, um, then of course Joe interrupts because like, this is his thing is like when people are about to have a constructive conversation or attempt at it, Joe appears out of nowhere. I was like, Hey guys, just want to let you guys know I got a new bump

56:36Ronnie Karam: bit okay guys i just like i see you're i see you're busy i just want to ask you does my hair look okay okay i'll be waiting for you in here just if you hear spraying it's hairspray don't worry about it by the way two guys fit in the credenza so go away joe we're talking all right

56:55Ben Mandelker: i'll be in here okay can i okay i'm gonna talk okay i'm gonna tell you okay this is the story all about how my life got flipped, turned upside down. I'd like to take a minute, just sit right there. I'll tell you how I became the prince of a town called Bel Air. Okay, Emmy, please. Okay, enough. Okay, I'm here, okay? It's just never, ever, ever been a time that I can remember that I've never once supported you. Because you're saying I don't support you. I always support you. Whether that be like all the shit you got last year from the whole entire group, you getting engaged. I was the first person you called, remember?

57:30Ben Mandelker: and I just like being in New York with your fiance didn't show up on stage I held your hand okay and I wiped your tears so for me it's like really hurtful that you just like disregard our whole friendship the second you felt like I didn't defend you to Brad

57:43Ronnie Karam: so now everybody else is sitting down at dinner and Joe's like well anyone's wondering where Emmy and Michaels are I know they've kind of been having like some problems but like they'll be here soon the important thing is they both liked my hair

57:57Ben Mandelker: so we should be okay really important really important

58:00Ronnie Karam: And Molly goes, I can smell someone's Axe body spray from over here. Who is it? Admit to it. And they all just stare at her like, how are we supposed to pick just one? You're in Axe body spray neighborhood. I mean, every one of these guys is wearing Axe body spray.

58:14Ben Mandelker: I know. But the camera then just goes over to Justin. He's like, hey, why do you guys look at me? So Michael's basically is like, you know what? You know, our friendship should not be reliant on me telling you whether you're right or wrong in the situation. And I've been a good friend to you. and you know, I hope like I would tell you if you're wrong in the situation, I hope you would tell me if I were being wrong. And she's like, okay, well, I took what you said about how this is like Brad's, his own like personal issue. Seriously, I just felt like invalidated. Am I right to like, he's like, yeah, you need to stop.

58:46Ben Mandelker: Like whether you feel invalidated or not, you're never going to understand what it's like to be my skin color. She's like, no, no, I won't. I absolutely, I won't, I won't, I won't. This is making me feel scared and unsafe. it's like seeing you're doing it again you're doing it again he's like so you don't know what

59:02Ronnie Karam: it's like to be us she's yeah no i don't i mean yeah i mean no so when situations like this happen and i say drop it just leave it she's like yeah but like here's the thing like because like look i i talked to lucia at length about this because i wanted her to like tell me if like i'd done something wrong and then she said that his actions were unacceptable so solved case solved i i know a person of color and the person of color said that the other person of color was at fault. What more do you want from me?

59:34Ben Mandelker: Yeah, and of course, Emmy had we see a flashback of her talking to Lucia and saying, he actually chose to text me, not my fiance, and you chose to go after me and scare me and be like, sleep with one eye open and what the hell does that mean? Was that man having a store for me because he's a vengeful man?

59:48Ronnie Karam: He didn't say sleep with one eye open, did he?

59:51Ben Mandelker: Not that what we saw. We saw him saying, you know what? you're dead to me too because she said he's dead to me and he heard it and he said you know what you're dead to me too like whatever but now it's like sleep with one eye open he was pounding on the door i was in the shower i was naked it's like it's the hysteria is like getting bigger and bigger and bigger like she is turning into the lady who harassed like the the the bird watcher

1:00:13Ronnie Karam: in central park at this she's janiting she's janiting this situation right now it's actually

1:00:18Ben Mandelker: They're like really bad. Like it's really, really, really bad and scary.

1:00:24Ronnie Karam: So Lucia, I was waiting to see what Lucia was going to say because we see Lucia's face and she's looking at her like you're crazy. Right. But then she goes, wow, what a violation of privacy. So Michael's, of course, calls. I waxed my nose hairs the other day and they're like growing in and is making my nose so bad. Oh, it's making me crazy. I feel like a coke head over here. So, anyway, Michael calls this, and he's like, well, yeah, she used Lucia to validate her own feelings, and I can guarantee you that Emmy only told her her side of the story, you know? So, Emmy's like, there is no microaggression, okay?

1:01:03Ronnie Karam: And I have a hard time moving on. Like, when a man stalks my hotel room, like, he threatened me. Like, he sent me those two impulsive texts. Like, that was terrifying, okay? It was, like, terrifying.

1:01:13Ben Mandelker: So, Michael goes, um, I'm confused. I don't really understand. man, like what's Brad's situation has to do with our friendship? He's like, because I would fucking ride or die for you. And I feel like you didn't, like, I don't think like you understand. Like I had a fucking panic attack in my hotel room when Brad was texting me. Like, well, we're supposed to have a 9 30 PM flight that he changed. He changed the flight. And Michael's is like, Michael says the thing that everyone's been saying online, which is you feel unsafe and your fiance's in the room, girl. I would not marry a motherfucker that made me feel unsafe.

1:01:44Ben Mandelker: If somebody's banging on my door, it's on my room. like am i wrong and he just stared at the camera yeah yes precisely and so he says so whether you

1:01:54Ronnie Karam: agree with it or not look there's a double standard here it's just i mean look i just want us to like align our opinions because like i mean like i guess it's when they don't align it's like hard for me so like by align our opinions i mean like when i say something i need you to say like you're right and then like tell you know call the police on him or something like is that so hard to ask

1:02:15Ben Mandelker: yeah right like why doesn't he help me with that he goes um honestly i think that for tonight i feel like we should just be able to have like just like go to the table of conversation because like i said i haven't been here in a really long time and i just want the opportunity to be like to connect with my family so so basically it's like i'm not getting anywhere let's go to dinner

1:02:32Ronnie Karam: so yeah so at first my first thought was good for michael's because he did not end up screaming at a yes because that would have been his third time this season so i was actually proud of him although it is um it is emmy and you don't want to get into a screaming match with emmy because she will win in the screaming department so he didn't so i was like good for him like he's learning as the season goes on you know so then we go to dinner and maddie is talking about how she's gonna have to dj at the pool she's so nervous and then drinks start coming to the table and they start talking about their worst first dates.

1:03:09Ronnie Karam: And Molly goes, yeah, I got hit by a car once on a first date. That wasn't good.

1:03:16Ben Mandelker: It's a big trend on Bravo these days, apparently, between this and Rhode Island. So Michaels and Emi join them, and Emi sits down and says, hi, caramba. So Emi's like, I'm happy that he heard me out. Like, now I can go to dinner, and at dinner we can keep this a private matter between Michaels and I. We'll just keep this very private and no one's going to know about it. Then Bella's like, guys, here's my worst date. My date was arrested on Valentine's day. He was arrested on our date. They're like, wow, that's crazy. Who are you again? I'm Bella guys. I'm Bella.

1:03:52Ronnie Karam: So then Joe is talking to Michaels and he's like, what about you? Do you have a crazy date story? And Michaels is very upset. It's like he's moping and they all see it. And they're like, oh God, what's wrong, Michael? come on michaels he's like i'm fine like no you're not obviously he's like the one time i try to get through to emmy she doesn't hear me this like trip is important to me but you only care about yourself and so emmy not getting it at all it's like um where everybody get their outfits from

1:04:24Ben Mandelker: mia's like my outfit's from cult gaia she's like really oh you're an expensive woman whatever but michaels is like he's like really hurting because he's like trying to get through to his friend she won't listen to him and like it's all i has to be compounded by like there's the fact that this is such a sensitive issue about microaggressions and emmy he cannot get through to his best friend about this it's got to make him feel like like shit right now like it's got to really be very hurtful to him and so he's just like going through it and tj is like well oh yeah while he has a hard time opening up and everything.

1:05:00Ben Mandelker: And so Maddie goes up to pee and Michaels goes with her. And she's like, what's going on? Like, you look like you're about to cry and everything. And meanwhile, Emmy is at the table, completely oblivious. She's like, oh yeah, is that Lioness? Is that not, no, no, that's not Lioness. Is that like runway, the label, like rent the runway or the pre-order? Like whatever it is, I love it. Oh my God, so good. She's just like in her own world, completely oblivious that like she is massively hurting her best friend because she's being so insensitive to his lived experience.

1:05:25Ronnie Karam: yeah and he's crying in the bathroom to maddie and he's like she doesn't listen she's like yeah you know why because she's emmy like emmy doesn't listen and so uh he cries in the bathroom in the

1:05:39Ben Mandelker: bathroom and that's how it ends and that's how it ends well everyone to be continued we'll see what happens next week on this wacky and silly show that somehow manages to deal with very heavy serious things, but also be a light frothy show. We will talk next week about the next episode of this. In the meantime, get your tickets. We got a notification in the middle of our recording that our 7pm Friday show has sold out for the Cap Array. So that's very exciting. But guess what? We may just add another one onto it. So we do.

1:06:10Ronnie Karam: Saturday is really close. Or wait, Friday sold out you said. Okay. Wednesday is the other show. Yeah. Wednesday is the other one.

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