#3343 RHOBH S15E20 Part 1: A Reunion For The Books

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2:20Ben Mandelker: Who cares what happens when there's so much that crap ends?

2:50Ben Mandelker: We're our first ever cabaret in New York City. And guess what? The Friday show is already sold out. There are still tickets, I believe.

2:57Ronnie Karam: They're both sold out.

2:58Ben Mandelker: What? I did not know that.

3:00Ronnie Karam: Yeah, they both sold out. Yeah. Well. Sorry. How about that? But guess what? Sold.

3:05Ben Mandelker: I didn't know this other one sold out. What?

3:09Ronnie Karam: Yeah. Well, there was one ticket before I came on here. So I think it's - Get out. There's one ticket left. Yeah, we did it. Party. So that's going to be super fun. That's New York, June 3rd and 5th. So we'll see you guys over there. It is going to be, both shows will be live streamed. So you can get tickets for that still, obviously, over there. And we're so excited to come putting it all together.

3:35Ben Mandelker: Yeah, this is going to be fabulous. It's going to be so much fun. I'm so excited for this whole thing. Yeah, we're putting it together. We just have to memorize a whole bunch of lyrics. But whatever, it's going to be a fun, goofy time. and we will see everyone there in New York City. Great times. Also, be sure to join us on Patreon at patreon.com slash watchwarcrappens. You can read our newsletter, which is Read What Crappens. That is free. That's on Patreon. We also have a bonus episode every week. We did Restaurant Wars with Top Chef. You can watch us on video with Crappens On Demand. That way you can watch us a whole week before it arrives on YouTube.

4:13Ben Mandelker: So that's all the good stuff. And today we are talking about Beverly Hills Just a reminder that on Monday, we do our Amazon Live stuff at 1.30 West Coast time, which would be 4.30 East Coast time. And we also have crappy hour. And wow, there's so much crap to discuss. So that will be Monday at 5.30 West Coast time or 8.30 East Coast time. So join us for those things. today Beverly Hills reunion part two more fighting the big takeaway is wow Andy really cannot stand Dorit we've known this for many years and we talked about it last week wow the way he had to he hates her he hates Dorit and she sasses off to him and the way he bites his tongue ooh

5:10Ronnie Karam: it's so funny i love it i mean good for her she should say he's he's just gonna stand up for kyle no matter what so i loved it um she probably won't have a job for much longer but whatever i'm enjoying it so at least go down in flames girl that's what i say her eyes are about to pop out of her head too i mean geez things are about to roll across the stage yes i can't even do it because I got botched Botox so like this eye won't move at all. I really got karma Botox because I'm becoming wonky eye. I'm becoming the wonky eye always making fun of Andy. But anyway, her eyes I can't even do it because of the Botox but her eyes are just like popping like the Ohoga Andy!

5:52Ronnie Karam: Angry Ohoga! Angry Ohoga! That's what I've got for you Andy. That's the answer I've got for you.

5:59Ben Mandelker: Yeah, she is really on one but it is so fun watching Dorit take Kyle to task. That's just deeply enjoyable for me.

6:08Ronnie Karam: You know what else is super fun? Watching Kyle cry about her fucking fake divorce for the fourth year in a row. You are dating this country singer, ma 'am. You are dating her. I do not want to hear it from you. I don't want your victim bullshit. You are dating that woman. You bought a house in Nashville. Stop with the line. If you don't want to talk about it, fine. Okay? We're not allowed to out whatever, whatever. We're not allowed to do that anymore. I don't even care if you're a gay or not. I'd prefer you weren't. But stop lying. Just stop. It's like the fourth year we have to watch Kyle pretend when she just bought a house to go live with this lady.

6:43Ronnie Karam: Just go live in your house, Kyle.

6:46Ben Mandelker: By the way, I just want to announce I am wearing a prominent collar on my shirt today in honor of Kyle Richards and her collar and her reunion look. So it's not in solidarity. It's just a – it actually is just purely a coincidence, but I'm just going to make it sound like it was – That's sweet.

7:00Ronnie Karam: Team Kyle. Well, that's good. No, definitely not. So here we are, reunion part two. We pick up where we left off last week. Bo's giving Amanda the business about her business. Bo's came out in Instagram, which she's pretty good at. You know, when she gets in trouble on the show, she does an Instagram video looking just gorgeous. Like, okay, okay, here's what happened. Watch this clip. But here's what you really didn't understand, which is why I'm correct. so this one the first one was her you know saying that the pinocchio mask would be amanda where she was like okay i said it i copped to it but you know this one was about this business thing and how she never said she would lose money in her business but then they showed the clips of her saying she does lose money on the videos which we took as her saying i do these videos but that's not who cares if i lose money because that's not my whole business or something but you know what What she said on the show was I lose money.

8:02Ronnie Karam: And then Amanda repeated it. And then she said, I never said that. So that was like a point of confusion last week. So Bo's made a video and she's like, well, if you'll notice, I said I'd lose money. I didn't say I lose money. I said I would lose money on this thing, which still really doesn't make a ton of sense to me. But whatever. It's fun watching Bo's argue, even if I don't know what she's talking about. like this episode. It's totally normal for a CMO to only be there for five minutes. That's just how it works in business. And Andy's like, Is that true?

8:40Ben Mandelker: Randy was trying to be respectful.

8:42Ronnie Karam: They blame the CMO for everything. I don't know. But I'm entertained. I'm bringing no clarity, but I'm entertained. Did I lose you, Ben?

8:53Ben Mandelker: I hope not. I'm always here with you, Ronnie. You can't hear me. did you unplug your headphones did they come loose did you yes i got so excited with my arm

9:03Ronnie Karam: i pulled out my headphone and then i just thought you were not liking what i said so you were just being silent over there i was like geez just blame the cmo um uh i think what those was a

9:16Ben Mandelker: killer start today go ahead start what you said you weren't sure uh what this meant when when bo said I'd lose money. She's saying I don't make those videos because I'd lose money. I would lose money if I made those videos, I guess is what she's claiming. She's clarifying it to be whatever it is. The CMO thing, I'm not familiar enough with corporate America to know how accurate that is. It didn't feel totally accurate that like a CMO would only be in there for like, you know, a few months or 18 months or whatever um we'll definitely have to you know cross check that one but jill

9:52Ronnie Karam: hazel baker is the chief marketing officer cmo and senior vice president of marketing at uber and she's had that job since 2015 that was one of buzz's company marion lee is the chief marketing officer at netflix um appointed march 2022 so she's been there since just on reddit But it both loved. No, it was Google. It was good old Fesha. Just Googled it while I was watching this because I was curious.

10:21Ben Mandelker: Wow.

10:21Ronnie Karam: At least at those companies, it's not normal.

10:24Ben Mandelker: Well, it definitely felt curious. So anyway, Andy is, Rose is clearing this up. She's like, I'm not a failure, kiddie. And Amanda's like, I didn't say you were a failure. She's like, yes, you did. But it's not failing. It's like, no, I didn't say it was failing. I said it wasn't going well because you said you're losing money on it. I said, well, you are promoting your business and setting up your margins to be rich as fuck. Yeah. And that is not my intention. Oh, all right, Bose. You said Amanda walked away from a cult just to build one herself. Amanda, what's your response? And Bose is like, I did not say that.

11:04Ben Mandelker: I did not say she walked away to build one herself. I'm saying she's a fucking idiot who built her own cult. That's it.

11:12Ronnie Karam: So Amanda's like, well, I mean, one thing about a cult is that you lose autonomy and you're controlled and isolated and encouraged to not think for yourself. But my business is the polar opposite. You're encouraged. I encourage women to think for themselves and not do what they're told to do by their husbands or their fathers or the church. And Erica's like, let's do mine.

11:37Ben Mandelker: No, honey, you encourage women to all think the same way about how to manage their money. And Amanda's like, no, but I get the idea of manifesting money is very small minded. It's only one tiny slice of the whole thing. And they're like, but it's all that you talk about is how to make money. Yeah, that's like, I thought that's like what you did, like manifesting money. Like, are you saying like, that's a lie? Like, I'm dead. I'm dead. Like, are you okay? Like, do you even know what you're talking about right now?

12:04Ronnie Karam: It's all you talk about all the time, making money. And Amanda's like, well, praise God for it. I mean, look, again, I don't get the pile on about Amanda. Like you think her business is stupid? I think her business is stupid. I think it's crazy. I think it's nuts that people pay thousands of dollars for somebody to tell them how to manifest. But it's not because I don't believe in manifesting at all. I do to a degree. And you know why? Because I've been reading about it pretty much for free for my entire life. Because this information is already out there and has been popular for a very long time.

12:34Ronnie Karam: It's called the secret people. Okay. I mean, and, um, I manifested something that I manifested something just today.

12:43Ben Mandelker: I was like, someone should shut down spirit airlines and guess what spirit airlines shutting down.

12:47Ronnie Karam: So they did. Oh, wow.

12:49Ben Mandelker: Yeah.

12:50Ronnie Karam: It's going down. People sick of sitting on bicycle seats and leaning up against a wall to fly. Maybe, maybe, maybe. It's like a firing range. That network. I mean, that, uh, plane like sit here, strapped in and wait. Someone will be by to shoot you soon. It's time for a commercial. It's time for a Crappens commercial.

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15:22Ronnie Karam: yeah i don't get it like she's manifesting who cares i think if they were really being honest they would say you're tricking people because manifesting is stupid that's what they really

15:32Ben Mandelker: should say all right like i don't know why they they have not been able to just say we think that you are a crook because you're forced you're you're getting you're telling people to pay you $1 ,500 or$3 ,000 to take a class where the gist is like, if you, if you pray on it, it will come. And it's just, that just feels like crockery. It's not even praying on it. It's manifesting. You just think really hard about it. It will come. It's, it feels, it feels like a full on con game. Okay. Yes. We all, I mean, we like to think like, Oh my God, I'm manifesting it. And I, I'm not going to discredit, discredit it from people who believe in it, but also do you need to spend$3 ,000 to learn how to manifest, that just seems outrageous.

16:17Ronnie Karam: Yeah, that's the thing. But listen, if there's a sucker willing to pay it, then, you know, pay it. You know, what are you going to do?

16:23Ben Mandelker: Well, what are you going to do? What are you going to do? What are you going to do? What are you going to do?

16:26Ronnie Karam: But yeah, especially when you've got Erica, like, well, that's a very thin line. Erica, you actually, like your husband actually ripped off so many people. That's true. So for you to be, and that's all the money that you've been living on since we've been watching you. So for you to be like, oh, really? Where'd you get your money? Really, Erica? Marco Marco. Look up the Marco Marco case. Get out of here, Erica. So Amanda is asked if she is writing her book or if she's finished with her book. And she's like, no, I just finished writing chapter six last week. So it's pretty good. You know, AI is taking longer and longer.

17:04Ben Mandelker: I know. I know. for someone who was like bragging about how she was like, she's like, oh yeah, I'm just going to write right now. I mean, that's been a long time. You've only written six chapters since then. So, and he's like, all right, in Italy, Sutton had an issue with Dorit doing a deep dive on Amanda's history, but Sutton, you earned the nickname Fancy Drew for your tendency to deep dive into other people's lives. Is that hypocritical? Well, okay. it doesn't count if you do a deep dive on poor people you have to to make sure you're safe so i regret the insinuation that i'm doing deep dives on fellow wealthy people which lives did i deep

17:48Ronnie Karam: dive on exactly are you fucking kidding me son give me a fucking break we all watched the season we brought up you did that deep dive by reading an article in a newspaper about me we all saw it You read every line of a newspaper article.

18:03Ben Mandelker: You got beyond word 230. Okay. So that's like kind of a deep dive for us. Like I read the LA Times. That's all I did. There's nothing deep dive about it. You know, they're like, wow. Did you follow the continued on page six? I did. It's a deep dive. It's a deep dive.

18:22Ronnie Karam: Why don't you stop investigating me? So Sutton's like, we were all asked to read the same article and I didn't do any more diving than that. So I think that's interesting because basically she's making it sound like production was like, okay, everybody get up. The LA Times has written an article. You all need to read it. And Sutton's the only one who read it. She's the only one who did her homework for that day.

18:43Ben Mandelker: She's like, so Sutton's like, you know, it's just, oh, we get a flashback to her talking about that. We come back to the present and Sutton is like, yeah, we're all asked to read this. Okay. Can I say something? Sutton do you remember that you said you were going to do a deep dive on Amanda and sign up for her courses I still want to say something no I don't can I say something shut up

19:07Ronnie Karam: and we see the clip of Sutton saying I don't see how she made this business that makes that money like I don't get it and I'm going to take her classes I want to see how it works I won't see what people are signing up for my expectation is to make five hundred thousand dollars a month well you're already doing that pretty much what are you going to get another divorce you're already bringing in three wouldn't be so hard as Sutton how would you do that? God I want rich people to teach me how you do it just teach me

19:34Ben Mandelker: okay question am I also making it up that you told me Sutton that Amanda took out two million dollar loans just before filming and possibly two million thirty thousand dollars and was seen at a big lots a year ago I just want to know

19:50Ronnie Karam: did you or did you not see Amanda following around a poor innocent woman in a Target who had$30 ,000 in her purse. Did you or did you not?

20:02Ben Mandelker: Is it true that Amanda was walking around injecting PK with diabetes? Is that not true? Did you not discover that?

20:12Ronnie Karam: Diabooties. So Amanda's like, I would never. And Dorit's like, that's a pretty deep dive. Sutton, it's a deep dive. So where they're talking about the$2 million loan. I don't think it's crazy that someone takes, she just bought a house. Was that nuts to mortgage your house?

20:32Ben Mandelker: I don't know what the loan was for, but Sutton claims she did not do a deep dive. Someone brought her that information. Someone that she said, hey, do a deep dive for me. Can you bring me this information? Thanks.

20:43Ronnie Karam: And Amanda goes, I don't have any loans. And Erica says, whatever. I'd love to take out a$2 million loan. We know. It's going to take a little more than that.

20:52Ben Mandelker: multiply that by 12.5 amanda's like uh hi guys um this is like still my package can we like get back to me please unlike giselle bryant i actually have a package somehow i was like guys amanda just said excuse me this is my package oh my god she's talking like a pro what's a package oh god rachel

21:16Ronnie Karam: Amanda, what was your reaction to Erica asking ChatGPT about you? She's like, it bothered me because we know ChatGPT pulls from Reddit and we all have horrible things about us on Reddit. He's like, well, it pulls from everything, actually.

21:33Ben Mandelker: Yeah, it's not just Reddit, okay? I'm going to be a little bit of a ChatGPT defender right now. Yeah, but like Reddit's like the mean one. It's like, okay, Bose, you looked up your own ChatGPT and it gave a very flattering response. And we see a flashback of Buzz being like, Buzz in my St. John invented every business and it also is credited with discovering the wheel. And Andy's like, well, when Amanda asked ChatGPT about you, it brought up skepticism about your short tenures at major corporations. What's your response to that? Well, first of all, I don't know what kind of reviews she's reading about me, but you seem to think you were reading bad reviews.

22:11Ben Mandelker: You seem to think I was reading bad reviews of Amanda Francis. That's not what I was searching. I was reading just anything to find out what she does. And it just so happens that everyone thinks she's a fraud. And that's it. That's all. It was not bad reviews, just statements of fact. And by the way, CMOs, we have the CMO class. We have short tenures. We're like a rainbow. You see us and we're beautiful and we shine, but then we go away. Brigadoon wouldn't be Brigadoon if it came back every 30 minutes. Am I right?

22:38Ronnie Karam: In most companies, Chief Marketing Officer, CMO stands for Chief Marketing. Oh, she's already gone. She's already gone.

22:46Ben Mandelker: Chief Missing Officer. Like, where was she? We're very fast.

22:53Ronnie Karam: Chief Marketing. Oh, what are you looking for her for? She was only supposed to be here for two weeks.

22:59Ben Mandelker: Chief, ma 'am, do you know where the officer is?

23:05Ronnie Karam: You go in for a specific mission, you complete the mission, and you move. And Dorit's like, yes, yes. My experience is smooth. This is very true. Very, very true.

23:17Ben Mandelker: The CMO for Beverly Beach only lasted a good two months. Coincidentally, that's how long the company lasted as well. But either way, the point remains. Unlike the company.

23:27Ronnie Karam: The point is, bakunies. So, Bose, Andy's like, wait a minute, it's a short-tenured job. I mean, it's not meant to be for a long period of time. Well, it's intended to be for a long time. But what happens is when a company is blamed for being a failure or issues with stock, it ends up falling on the CMO. Ouch, that hurt. That hurt. So you were only supposed to be there for – they're only – so what are you saying? CMOs are only supposed to be short-term. No, they're supposed to be long-term. Suppose, come on. Stick with it. Come up with something and just stick with it.

24:06Ben Mandelker: So Adweek says that the most recent data puts average CMO tenures at 4.1 years amongst S &P 500 companies. And then it's a few things worth knowing about that number, according to the internet. It's shorter than most peers, but not as dire as the headline suggests. So the dramatic 18-month CMO narrative that circulates is misleading. Tenure has actually hovered around four years since 2022. and CMO tenure still trails the C-suite average of 4.9 years and is lower than the most common C-suite roles, yet higher than chief operating, chief sustainability, and chief diversity officers. So that's according to the internet, everyone.

24:49Ronnie Karam: I'll tell you what, the internet just taught me that's dog-eat-dog world. That's dog-eat-dog world. Hey, why's that dog eating that dog? Don't y 'all got dog food? Come on, dog food's cheaper than dogs. A dog is$2 ,000 these days minimum. Dog food's five. Come on.

25:03Ben Mandelker: they're just bringing in britney takes me okay let me tell you all about cmos okay so cmos that's chief mom in charge okay okay i'm the chief mom okay who wants a bit

25:15Ronnie Karam: yeah i mean look i don't have a real job so i'm not really into i mean look everybody read this stuff about bows if you did any kind of research at first because that is the rumor about her like she always has these short-term jobs like what's up with this lady i mean i'm not really into big at going for people for like she has an incredible resume so that's what i think that pretty much speaks for itself so i'm not really going to go here i think she's just kind of opening this up herself by coming for amanda's business and that's where all of this is coming from is her you know kind of making fun of amanda behind her back well onto her face and just saying she's a cult leader and blah blah blah so she's opening which i don't think she's necessarily wrong either but she's opening herself up to this line of questioning and then acting like how dare you how dare you

26:02Ben Mandelker: come for my business well you're coming for hers that's the whole point i think um i think the cmo stuff she's opening it up by saying like well you know everyone knows the cmo only lasts about three weeks um like it's like maybe not i think she could have just said like you know the companies I was at, like what I was needed for were short-term things. It was an unstable, you know, unstable time, et cetera. Yeah, I don't, whatever, whatever it was, I still think she has, she should come for Amanda for her business because I do think that there's some, there's something fishy with Amanda's businesses.

26:42Ben Mandelker: I just, I feel like there's some, I don't know, I just, I think like, you know, duping people into spending several thousand dollars to learn how to manifest, Just feels untoward. And I agree. I do think, but I do think I'm a hundred percent in agreement with you, which is that I feel like Bose seems like a very smart and capable person. And yeah, like the rumors, the rumors around town are she's smart, but she's when she takes these jobs, she's sort of like all about like self-promotion. But I don't know. I like Bose a lot and I think she's bright. And I think that, uh, I think Bose is the only one of this entire cast who seems to have like real world experience working in like an office and like working in, in corporate America.

27:31Ben Mandelker: And so that's why I think like for her, she's like, like, what the fuck? Like here you have like Amanda who's like, I have no background. I've got no training. I just started to say, Hey, I'm manifesting and pay me money. I'll teach you how to manifest too. She's just like no real world business experience. And just like acting like she actually, she's not actually saying she has real world business experience. she says she has what does she has a relationship with the spiritual side of business is that what she said earlier so I could just like whatever it was I just I am just totally with both being like what the fuck is this girl talking about yeah

28:03Ronnie Karam: so Kyle's like well why are we saying anything that would hurt anybody's business and Treat says well you opened the door for that didn't you coil we should all be supporting each other's businesses really really you weren't at my book launch photo launch the photo of the book launched.

28:21Ben Mandelker: But, like, what business did she not support to read? I mean, cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs over here, am I right?

28:28Ronnie Karam: The only business venture that I've had since renovation five years.

28:35Ben Mandelker: Um, hold on. Excuse me. I'm sorry. I have things to say. There was buco de pepo, your bathing suits. Um, there's nothing really more beyond that, and I think those are enough, by the way. Kyle has a little bit of a point here. She did go to that Buco di Beppo room, and we saw her. This was during the Bangs era. That was years ago. I know, but she had to go to Buco di Beppo and pretend like this Capri room was something special. It's like, wow, feels like Italy in here, Dori. Good job. Yeah, but they all had to sit through Halloween

29:05Ronnie Karam: to see Kyle's five seconds, too. So, I mean, at least with Buco di Beppo, you got carbs.

29:11Ben Mandelker: Well, I agree. I think they've actually supported Kyle's business ventures way more than Kyle has supported their stupid things. They all had to also go watch Kyle's fashion show. And in fact, not only did Dorit help with Kyle's fashion show, Dorit, well, not only did they go to the fashion show, but Dorit actually went and gave like advice how to improve it because it was so crappy.

29:31Ronnie Karam: Yeah, her caftan, her caftan fashion show. So Dorit is like, oh, well, you have to go back 10 years, Coyle. It's like, it's called history, Dorit, which you might know if you ever read Okay, I don't read. Okay, I'm not even going to go down that. We all know that I don't read. I'm talking about within this decade, Coyle. It's called History to Read. I've been supportive except for one fucking thing to read. One fucking thing. How dare you? My first business venture in years. So don't sit here and say we should all be supporting each other's businesses. Because you don't.

30:05Ben Mandelker: You do won't. I think I mean it is it is not a great look for Kyle to say we should all be supporting each other's businesses even though she has supported in the past like you're actively prosecuting like the issue up for grabs here is that you did not go to the stupid book thing so like you are setting yourself up for failure by like making that announcement and Dorit her angle should be not like this is my first one in years she should say this has been my first business venture since i've been standing on my own and you're so concerned about like uh the power that pk has over me and i shouldn't be saying this and i shouldn't be saying that that because pk will punish me financially and here i have a chance to stand up and become financially independent and you don't even show up like that's what to reach should have been saying yeah and then kyle instead

30:55Ronnie Karam: of saying anything good he's like it wasn't even a book launch there's no book it was a picture Listen, you opened that fucking door, Kyle. You opened it. And Kyle whips out her phone. She's like, oh, really? Really? Well, listen to this. I sent a text. And I said, I'm so sorry. I'm not going to make it tonight. But I'm exhausted. I'm overwhelmed. And I've been up since 2 a.m. We need to talk still. And I hope that happens sometime soon. But I know you RSVP'd yesterday at the wedding. So I hope to see you there. Good luck. Because PK will be there, too. Okay, good luck tonight. And then you wrote, I get it.

31:26Ronnie Karam: No worries. Thank you for all the well witches. And take care of yourself. We'll talk another time. I'll see you at the wedding. Oh, okay. So now it's okay to bring out each other's texts and read them on TV because you've been mad at Dorit about that for like three years now, so.

31:41Ben Mandelker: Well, because she did it first. That's what she would say to that. So she's like, well, you seemed fine with that until you spoke with Bose. And it's like, okay, Dorit, did Kyle misread your tone in that text? Oh, yes, yes, yes, she did. There was not even a British accent. Kyle's like, well, how about you go back and like look when Bose told you like, Kyle should have been there. and then all of a sudden you said, and then Kyle does a perfect story. He goes, absolutely.

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34:14Ronnie Karam: And we do see this With Dorit telling Boz, do not believe that Kyle Do not still believe That Coyle had good intentions When she kept saying she's going to see And Boz is like, well, I mean The evidence is pointing to not really And so then Dorit in the present is saying Well, Coyle, you know what I genuinely felt About that text you sent I thought, wow Wow Okay Okay Wow

34:46Ben Mandelker: So you're like full of shit then Like your text back to me was not genuine When you said thank you I said it's called being polite Kyle She's like oh okay Or you're being a fake friend I'm like no Kyle she was just being polite Because she knew if she went off on you on text You would turn it into a whole big deal Yes

35:06Ronnie Karam: I'm not going to beg anyone to come and support me I was hoit I was hoit Kyle Oh it's like you shitted It's like you shifted It's like you shifted when he realized Oh good I can make Kyle look like an asshole Kyle you're not going to her book launch thing You are making yourself look like an asshole You did this to yourself All you had to do was show up and be like I hate you but I'm still glad you're successful Maybe we'll be friends again one day Bye

35:33Ben Mandelker: I feel like this all the time Kyle I don't want to go I'm tired. I don't feel like it. And I still fucking show up. Five hours late, yes.

35:44Ronnie Karam: But still, I show up.

35:48Ben Mandelker: Yeah. It's like, I'm so sick and tired of the jealousy of my friendship with these two, Boz and Rachel, who is much more friendly with me than with you. Let's be honest. I'm basically Jennifer Garner now. And you just cannot accept that. And you know what? Your jealousy is seething out of your pores. Seething.

36:05Ronnie Karam: So, Kyle's just laughing. She's like, ha, ha, ha, ha, really, really? And she's looking at Erica and Sutton for backup. And Doreen's like, you really cannot help but take a swipe in my relationships. She's like, I'm not taking a swipe. You are. Every chance you get, Kyle. Okay, so how is she taking swipes, Doreen? To please explain. Kyle, you're suggesting that I'm being influenced by booze who somehow has wound me up. In your head, it's in your mind, Kyle. It's in your mind.

36:33Ben Mandelker: Um, you project so much. Like, how did this get like turned around? Like you will not acknowledge how I've supported you in the past everything in the past I will talk about the past. Okay. I'm gonna talk about the past. Oh, you want to go back ten years? Yes Well, yeah, of course. I'm gonna go back ten years. I'll even go back to Little House on the Prairie there I'll do it. I've been an actress all this time. How about that? But I'm going back to I'm going back to our history. Okay, our friendship Well, I'm going up back as far as I can because anything too far is like a deep dive right sudden high five high five Okay, never mind.

37:01Ronnie Karam: What about your fake accent? I defended that remember that I defended your fake accent She's like, oh, really? You're enjoying making me look boot right now. Remember dropping off the dog Lucy Lucy Apple Juice? Oh, please. You practically forced her into that to get Vanderpump. Listen to how Kyle is rewriting history. As if you didn't force that shit on air to get rid of Vanderpump, Kyle.

37:26Ben Mandelker: So Dorit actually winds up laying in a great trap for Kyle. She goes, nine years ago. I'm talking about the last two years, Kyle. She goes, well, the past two years where we haven't even been friends. And that's exactly it, Kyle. Stop saying that we are friends. And I was like, oh, that was actually great. Because Kyle admitted we were not friends. And Kyle keeps on saying, but we're friends. We're friends. We're friends. I'm such a good friend to you.

37:49Ronnie Karam: I'm such a good friend to you. I'm such a good friend to you. And she's like, but we're not friends. I love that. Because Dorit said that line. And it was like a Matlock where they finally tricked the killer into revealing themselves. And the whole jury's like, well, that's it. I don't know if he wears a white suit every damn case. but God, he did it again.

38:06Ben Mandelker: Mm-hmm. So, um, Kyle is like, well, you haven't shown up for me in two years. Your words don't match your actions, Kyle. We're just going to keep going around in circles and circles and circles. So Kyle's like, no, no, we're not going to go around in circles, but I am going to bring it to the same point again three more times in a circular manner.

38:24Ronnie Karam: People make fun of your accent. I'm always there to stand up for your accent.

38:28Ben Mandelker: So what do you do? We're not going to go back 10 years, Kyle. And so Kyle's like, be quiet for a second. Be quiet. I'm not going to be quiet, Kyle. He's like, please, can you shut her up, Andy? Can you? He's like, no, I can't.

38:41Ronnie Karam: I've reached the limits of my powers. Sounds like that is impossible. Shutting up, Dorit. I defended your fake accent. I defended you with Lucy Apple Juicy. I defended you with the burglary. Oh. That was. That's pretty low, Kyle. Especially as someone who's also had 10 burglaries in the past couple of years. I'm surprised that Dorit didn't jump on that. Well, not really surprised because who needs that brought up again? People in insurance might be watching this show.

39:09Ben Mandelker: I was surprised that Dorit did not have a reaction to her saying, I defended you with the burglary because the burglary was like real deal trauma for Dorit. And you're talking about like fake accent and you're lumping that in with like a fake accent situation. And like you're actually looking for brownie points for doing like really the bare minimum thing that you would do for a friend, which is that like they were just burgled and they're traumatized and they were held at gunpoint and their kids were in the house. And you're like, I supported you in that moment. Like, Oh wow. Congratulations.

39:38Ben Mandelker: Of course you did. Like how could you be a monster? Not to.

39:41Ronnie Karam: You're such a good, I sat by the window and pretended to cry for that to read. She remember that when she sat by her front window and just looked out the window crying and Sutton came over. She's like, what? People die every day. Anyway,

39:54Ben Mandelker: I have a designer who's stuck in customs.

39:58Ronnie Karam: So Amanda's cracking up. She's loving this. And Rachel's trying not to laugh, too, because they're being so ridiculous. And Andy's like, hold on, hold on. We need to wrap up Amanda's segment. Oh, God. We were talking about Amanda still? Jeez, everybody hide your wallets. Dorit, you got a lot of heat for how you responded to Amanda at Rachel's dinner party.

40:19Ronnie Karam: Face from Toon says, horrible look for Dorit. Regardless of how you feel about Amanda, she just told you it's the anniversary of her son's death. why did you have to push a stupid argument with her?

40:33Ben Mandelker: Yeah. He's like, did you, like, when you saw what she actually said, what was your reaction? Well, gee, I think she had an opinion about something that's not fair for her to have an opinion about, especially, quite frankly, not knowing me or PK. I'd like to read, when you look at that footage, you have to admit, Amanda was not riding hard on this point. She was just offering up something casual. It was not that deep and it was not that insulting.

41:01Ronnie Karam: Yeah, it wasn't. She should have just said, I was led to believe that this girl was talking a lot more shit about me than she was. I think to read looks stupid in that in that argument.

41:11Ben Mandelker: Yeah, I agree, too.

41:12Ronnie Karam: And if someone says my son died, can we not talk about this? All you do is you say, I'm so sorry. And you back off and you shut up. That's it. Whether or not you think they're using it for, you know, audience pity or whatever you think that they're trying to do. You just say, okay, that is a victim card that can be played at any moment. Okay.

41:32Ben Mandelker: Blame it on Kyle. Find a way to blame it on Kyle. Come on. You know how to do this. So Amanda's like, well, when I saw it, I was relieved because all summer I was concerned I'd said something horrible. Like my husband makes more money than me. Ew, gross. And then, but then I saw it and I was like, no, it's just because I remembered it. And I was like, yeah, I wasn't sitting around harboring something bad against her or expressing some really strong opinion. And Sutton's like, but you did have an opinion on it. Yeah, we know Sutton. No judge as if she didn't.

42:03Ronnie Karam: Yeah, we know Sutton because you were the one who kept bringing it up. And then right when she had a response, you would run to Kyle and Tattletail. We know Sutton. Yeah.

42:12Ben Mandelker: Yeah, we know. So Amanda's like, yeah, but like you went and told Dorit that you didn't agree with it. She's like, but Kyle knew how I felt. because I told Kyle, Kyle, this is how I, Dorit, this is how I feel, okay? I feel this way. How can I become better friends with Kyle? Do you think that I could become Kyle's best friend? Since you and Kyle are fighting, can I take your place? Can I just be called new Dorit now? Is that okay with everyone? I said all those things.

42:39Ronnie Karam: That's exactly what I was about to say. And so it's like, yeah, all you have to say is, that's my opinion, okay? You know, it's a housewives, it's a housewives meme. Look at the housewives memes. It comes up. crazy lady possum on a dumpster that's my opinion come on it's like that's all you had to say Amanda she's like but I didn't remember saying it I was very confused anyway it tracked on because you simply didn't want to address it

43:07Ben Mandelker: and so Erica's like but that was never the point okay it's okay can I just say this like she was never trying to like harbor any strong opinions it was never the point of anything and it's like thank you so Kyle is like she's like you know very feeling very satisfied and Rachel goes guys can I weigh in on something what bothered me the most about what happened that night at my house when the lights went out was that as much as it was about what happened at the table I had more of an issue with what happened before the tables remember that because Dorit came in excited about her book and then Amanda was like you use a ghost writer And that was like, not cool Like, are you okay?

43:54Ronnie Karam: We see the flashback to her saying So that's like a ghost writer I just sat down and wrote And Amanda's like And I want to apologize for that And Jarete's like How dare you? She's got this look on her face Like, accuse me of using I mean, I do use a ghost author But still, how dare you? And Rachel's like, yeah You're like, you didn't write your book. And then you were like, oh my God, I just sat down and wrote my book. Like, you have to, like, one-up all the time. It's not nice. It doesn't make you look better. She's like, but I wasn't trying to one-up. I know. That's what I'm telling you. So you can stop looking stupid.

44:33Ben Mandelker: Oh my God, you know what's so funny? I'm going to tell you something now also. Just, like, a little bit better what you just told me about one-up. So you're doing it again. I don't even know what you're going to say if you're already doing it. Oh my God, that's so funny. I know I'm doing it again. And I'm going to do it like one more time than you just did it again. That's like literally not even making sense. You're just one upping nothing right now.

44:51Ronnie Karam: All right. We're closing for lunch. Amanda, what's the biggest thing you've learned about yourself this season? Nobody cares. Let's go to lunch. Okay. I was like, wait, but I wanted to say I really like the hearts of the ladies and I can't wait to be on another season. That's not going to happen. Okay. You're lying because they have no hearts.

45:07Ben Mandelker: Okay. Lunch time. Get me a Caesar salad.

45:11Ronnie Karam: so um now people are breaking for lunch and um we see a suv pulling up to the studio a lot and this is really funny because it's basically a study in the difference between jennifer tilly and kathy hilton so jennifer tilly pulls up and two producers or whoever comes come to her car and she's like oh hi hi and they all hug and it's like so good to see you i'm so glad to be here And she just walks inside. And then the same producers go up to Kathy's car. And Kathy's like, oh, God, hold on. Stay right there. Take this and this and this. It's a tricycle. You never know if you're going to see a kid.

45:51Ronnie Karam: Okay. Go ahead. Take this. It's a little monkey. Michael Jackson used to own that. It used to be his pet. Very cute. Terrible what happened to Neverland. I own half of it. It's in my basement. Take this. Take this. She just starts bringing, like, everything out of this giant truck and handing them to production.

46:08Ben Mandelker: At a certain point, someone at the Kathy Hilton estate has to start investing in this new thing called boxes. And you put everything in one box. And then that way, when you transport everything, you just hand over one big box with everything in it rather than these piecemeal. This bag and this bag and here's a fan and here's some other stuff.

46:28Ronnie Karam: Wait, even fast forward your dream and let them find bags. Whoa. Bags. They're like boxes, but they're soft and they have handles.

46:38Ben Mandelker: But this is definitely the wealthy person flex is just showing up with a whole bunch of stuff and making other people carry it for you. Yes. Just random ass people carrying stuff. So now Kathy's in her trailer and she's getting her makeup done. And Jennifer walks in, still sort of in her street clothes, but her hair is done. And Jennifer's like, oh, look how gorgeous. Is this your birthday? And Kathy's like, are you not wearing any jewelry today? She's like, this isn't my outfit. I'm wearing a robe boots.

47:12Ronnie Karam: She's in her PJs. She's like, yeah, what am I going to wear? Combat boots to a reunion? Come on, Kathy. So now Jennifer is getting her dress kind of unzipped because she can't walk in her dress. And this is her already famous Jennifer face dress made by Balmain.

47:32Ben Mandelker: Yes. And so she's coming to the stage. it's important to be ambulatory and uh and and he's like in the middle of taking a selfie next to the car he's like putting this on grinder and then he's like oh my god jerry wow

47:53Ronnie Karam: so she can barely sit up straight which is really funny because the dress is so tight

47:58Ben Mandelker: well it's a combination of the dress being tight but also she says that like in a little bit that when she sits her face gets all crumpled up like the monster in the substance and it's actually really true if you really look at that dress when she sits it's like it's like an eyeball and like half of a lip

48:17Ronnie Karam: so kathy what's what uh inspired your wardrobe she's dressed silver she's just silver silver silver purse silver silver silver silver she's like well i actually had a last minute change because I went on a jello diet. And he's like, what's the jello diet? Yo, Oprah Winfrey and Michelle Obama. They've done it. Basically, it's jello, baking soda, vinegar, and human piss. But it completely messed up my system. And I lost two pounds on the first day. But then I got bloated. And it turns out they lied to me. And it was IA. It was IA lied to me. Internal Affairs lied to you? They did. Richard Gere came to my house and said, listen here, tubby, drink some baking soda.

49:01Ronnie Karam: And I did it. I did it. I love the fact that she basically made a middle school science experiment with baking soda and vinegar. She's like, I made a volcano and I had to sip it. Pick me up and boom, I'm fifth grade, fifth grade project.

49:18Ben Mandelker: Yeah, I don't know what she did. It sounds like did she stumble upon some sort of AI slop article that recommended this diet?

49:25Ronnie Karam: You don't go on Facebook anymore. So I don't think you understand how bad Facebook has gotten. And I think that the older generation is still on Facebook all the time. And they're believing all this crazy stuff. Facebook is now only AI articles. They're all lies. They print the most lies. And they're all verifiably false. But people don't even care anymore. They just believe everything they say. And I think Kathy's one of those. She saw Oprah talking about it. And she's like, that's it. I'm doing it. It works for Oprah.

49:55Ben Mandelker: She goes, well, and then there's an AI version of Dr. Ross who's doing it too. He's like, oh, wow. Well, what a great mind. So, Kathy, I loved your fantasy about the statue of David. Any other works of art you'd like to take a stroll with? Because, of course, we see like a video of Kathy mentioning that she thinks David is hot. Of course, like this is what Andy is going to focus on of everything. And she goes, um, I'd like to take a stroll with Mr. Ponte Vecchio. And they're like, Ponte Vecchio? You mean like the bridge? Like literally.

50:29Ben Mandelker: By the way, what is like a cum gutter? By the way, I do not believe that Rachel does not know what that is. Rachel, you work in fashion. You're surrounded by gay men. You know what a cum gutter is.

50:40Ronnie Karam: I didn't know what a cum gutter was. I've never heard of that. And I'll never have one. So unless it's my belly button. But I guess that would be more like a cum pothole. That's disgusting. But anyway, Erica's like, Andy's got them. They're the two lines right here. He's like, yeah, that's the two lines. Right, come on, come on. And Kathy's like, oh, I didn't know what that meant either. That's crazy. Congratulations, you've reached the end of part one of a two-part recap. For part two, go look for the recap that says part two. See you over there, suckers.

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