


The cast returns to Punta Cana for activities and parties while unresolved interpersonal conflicts and rumors continue. Key threads include Michaels vs. Emmy after a microaggressions/being-threatened conversation, a “clean slate” attempt, a major rumor about Lake and O’Shea, and romantic/sexual tension between Michaels and TJ. The episode also features a high-altitude “sky dinner,” club night at Coco Bongo, and Maddie’s fertility/egg-freezing discussion with Joe.
No guests appear in the transcript. The episode is hosted by Ronnie and Benooney (cast members/hosts), with cast members driving most of the dialogue.
Emmy is accused of selfishness and not listening; Michaels wants progress but feels unheard. The group agrees to a safe-word system (“plantain”) and tries to move past drama. Lake denies a threesome; she admits hooking up with O’Shea in 2025 “no,” and the rumor is treated as spreading via calls/questions. Maddie says she has celiac disease and fears infertility; she’s had blood work and may freeze eggs.
“Sky dinner” strapped 150 feet up; Coco Bongo; plantain safe-word debate; O’Shea rumor confrontation; Michaels and TJ discuss “friends with benefits” vs. feelings; Maddie and Joe talk egg count and fertility.
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Discussion about a tense dinner scene involving Michaels and Emmy.
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The cast discusses what a plantain is while preparing for their day.
“So Michaels is in the bathroom because he had just tried to get through to Emmy about microaggressions and not feeling heard.”
The cast discusses relationships and drama unfolding on their trip.
“Yeah, it took like two seconds to list and they sold almost immediately.”
The hosts express their desire for certain footage to be leaked.
“Yes, whenever we see the Thailand footage.”
The conversation shifts to interpersonal relationships and the impact of rumors.
“Like, obviously we need to focus on individual relationships and this trip is a really good time to figure that out.”
Details emerge about a rumor involving a potential threesome that stirs up drama.
“I actually heard it from someone else very close to Lake in the proximity of her sitting down.”
The group discusses upcoming activities while managing underlying tensions.
“And like, you know, like she's going to be great.”
Joe shares his aspirations and humorous candy ideas, leading to comedic moments.
“I'm going to be like on Tik TOK as a dad.”
The group anticipates a unique dining experience at a theme park.
“So they're trying to guess what it is, and someone's like, medieval times.”
A nostalgic recount of a childhood visit to the Rainbow Room and an encounter with Andrea Mitchell.
“Maybe the rainbow room was good back in the day.”
The group grapples with fears and confronts tensions during a unique dining experience in the air.
“And they're all like, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god.”
Exploring complex friendships and misunderstandings during a high-stakes group outing.
“and he's being just like fake as fuck right now.”
Exploration of flirtations and mixed signals during a club outing, highlighting emotional vulnerability.
“He's like, well, this summer, you know, like our friendship has been friends with benefits with no strings.”
Deep discussions on family planning and personal struggles with health and fertility.
“I'm actually like a really popular dad talker.”
Listeners will dive into a conversation about navigating complex feelings in relationships.
The discussion delves into the intricate dynamics of friendship and attraction among young gay men.
“We really rarely see two gay men talking on Bravo and for, for a network that has such a huge gay following, it's just, we don't see these conversations very much.”
The segment addresses interactions within the group and an invitation to church, highlighting personal connections.
“So now the rest of the gang are talking about how Molly still has her wristband on from last night.”
The hosts discuss a visit to a church, reflecting on faith and personal experiences with spirituality.
“So they're like, Bella's like, oh my God.”
Listeners hear personal reflections about church experiences and the feelings of acceptance or exclusion.
“Some of the architecture of churches is crazy.”
Listeners will learn about a character's emotional journey and reconnection with faith.
“And so he feels like he's not necessarily welcomed, which, you know, is true, which is why I ain't going there.”

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1:30Ronnie Karam: On Ye Old Brobs. I'm Ronnie. That's Benooney over there. Hello, Ben. How are you, you little darling face?
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2:39Ben Mandelker: Well we are back in Punta Cana and by the way there was some discussion mainly from me about hey what was the thing that PK said on Beverly Hills like Punta Cana that's where you go it was Punta Mita Punta Mita that's correct
2:55Ronnie Karam: That is actually correct.
2:58Ben Mandelker: So for the Mita heads out there, you know, I love to correct something. So that's the correction. So we are at dinner. So Michaels is in the bathroom because he had just tried to get through to Emmy about microaggressions and not feeling heard. And her response was, but he was at my door stalking me and about threatening to kill me. So they basically decided to like put a pin in it he's frustrated he wants to cry because it's like his good friend who won't even hear him and uh obviously there's like a lot of stuff wrapped up in this and he is frustrated deservedly so with her so he's in the bathroom with maddie and he's crying and he's like you can't help but like make these things about yourself 24 7 emmy like biggest issue is that you're selfish she's so selfish um and emmy is like she is she's at the dinner table
3:51Ronnie Karam: She's at the dinner table like, so what are the vibes? Like, what are the vibes post-dinner? Are we going to party or like, what are we doing? We're going to have fun, right?
4:02Ben Mandelker: Like, what was your conversation like? Because like, he's like mute. So like, how did that conversation go, Emmy?
4:08Ronnie Karam: I don't.
4:12Ben Mandelker: Like, was it a one-sided or were you guys able to converse? Like one-sided? Were you just talking the old man?
4:19Ronnie Karam: No, not at all. What are you talking about, one-sided? Do you feel like you got somewhere? Got somewhere? Yeah. I mean, yeah, we did. I think. I don't know.
4:33Ben Mandelker: So then Michaels is like, I literally said to her, let's just table the conversation because I feel like we're not going to get anywhere. And then Emmy's like, yeah. I just felt like we really pushed forward. It was a very pushing forward conversation. We actually really got somewhere. We got to many places. like if this were a uh triple a triptych we'd have been like got to all the places because we did it all we did it all we got to so many places we literally got nowhere wow we accomplished so
4:56Ronnie Karam: much it was great guys guys i mean like guys i mean it like i could not have been more respectful of michael's in that situation like could could i have could someone maybe explain to me like like how i could have been better in that situation because like i think i was pretty good so I think I was very respectful
5:16Ben Mandelker: considering that my life was being threatened in that moment so
5:20Ronnie Karam: so Michael's is like yeah my points were not heard because it's like one thing for her to like hear her say something but like it's also another thing to like understand the thing and like she never listened she's so selfish well you guys like listen like you know what progress is progress and like I'll take whatever progress I can get with Michael's I put an O at the end of it I'll eat the soup okay I'm into it
5:44Ben Mandelker: and Michaels is like, we got nowhere. Like, I don't want to be upset. Like, do you look like I was, do I look like I was crying? And Maddie's like, you look fine. It's like, okay, I'm fine. I'm fine. I'm fine. So they returned to the table and DJ checks on Michaels and he's like, no, he's fine, whatever. And so Molly is like, on that note, I'm going to go to the bar. Who wants to come? It's me, Molly. I'm ready to have a scene, everyone. They're like, yay, Molly.
6:10Ronnie Karam: so michaels is saying it's his first time in the dr in six years 16 years and he wants to have a good time and have some drinks and throw some ass and have some ass thrown at him and emmy's not gonna take ass being thrown in his face damn it so she's like oh yeah i mean like we're partying this is great but you know i'm just gonna go back to the room i'm gonna go back to the room and chill please nobody stalk the room that would be nice okay there will be a guard at the door everyone
6:40Ben Mandelker: so michaels is like oh my god he says in spanish i'm tired of that bitter hag so uh it's a new day it's a new morning and michaels and tj go wake everyone in their villa up and brad's texting julia because he misses her because she's not there and now everyone gets ready to meet up michaels is like everybody listen we're gonna go to the buffet and we're gonna eat and then afterwards we're gonna like go to these waterfalls and cenotes and then they're like we're gonna zipline and do all these like funny things and then we're gonna like make a safe word for drama today okay because if anyone makes today about themselves you're fucking selfish and they're like okay cool so what's the what's bella is like hi i'm bella i'm in the cast photo what's the safe word is the safe word bella please let it be bella no the safe word is plantain plantain is the safe word.
7:26Ronnie Karam: That's to try and figure out what a plantain is because some really white people. I mean, my gosh. I'm a white person, but I know what a plantain is. Come on. It's a hard banana, people. Jeez. So Molly's like, yeah, I don't know what a plantain is. What is a plantain? And TJ's like, is it bamboo?
7:47Ben Mandelker: Oh, is it that thing that you get on the bottom of your foot? You got to go see a podiatrist. You got it taken off. No, that's a planter. Walt Ward.
7:54Ronnie Karam: is it like a mushroom Molly's like I don't know and Joe says a plantain is a banana but it's like not a banana but it's in the same family it's a banana they're like wow hardly anybody knew that and he's like yeah well I'm cultured so
8:13Ben Mandelker: he's been to a supermarket everyone yeah like a banana
8:16Ronnie Karam: like a banana is an emo version of a plantain cause it's like softer
8:23Ben Mandelker: I was shocked that they did not know what plantains were. Like, I was legitimately shocked. So they go to breakfast.
8:32Ronnie Karam: Is it a place that Blake Lively gets married at? That's a plantation.
8:39Ben Mandelker: Did they get married at a plantation? Yes. I guess, you know what, honestly, I really don't pay attention to Blake Lively news. I don't really either. I don't even know why.
8:50Ronnie Karam: I said, it's just the first plantation reference I could come up with. Cause I remember that was not problematic. It's pretty problematic. Well,
8:59Ben Mandelker: I mean, it's problematic, but like it could get much worse. so yeah, I, you know, Blake lively, I really don't pay attention to any of the news. And honestly, I did not care at all about her issues with Justin Baldoni. And people would constantly be like, so who's side are you on Blake's or Justin's? And like, I'm on the side of like doing something else with my time. i literally don't care and like i nearly wept i'm on the side of better movies okay i'm on the side of our movies how about that i'm on the side of blair waldorf who's always more appealing to me
9:30Ronnie Karam: than anything serena did yes true i didn't yeah i didn't follow that that either and it's still going on i think because i know they've suggested stuff oh they finished oh who won they they
9:43Ben Mandelker: settled out of court ahead of the trial they settled like two days ago it was like they settled and then Blake Lively went and did the Met Gala. That's what I do. There you go.
9:53Ronnie Karam: That's what I do. That's what I do. That's what I do. The Jeff Bezos Met Gala. So, yeah. So now they're going to breakfast and Michael's is like, oh, there's one plate for sweets. I'm going to get a healthy stuff on my other plate. I like this little frown. Just so everyone wants it.
10:13Ben Mandelker: I know. I still contend that he looks like B. Arthur. I'm sorry. Like a hot B. Arthur.
10:27Ben Mandelker: That's like a high compliment, by the way. I wish I could look like B. Arthur. So, but again, hot B. Arthur. So he's going to have two plates, which is great. and then Lake is, she's emerging from the buffet and the sliding door just closes slowly on her it's like an automatic door just closes on her and I was like, she doesn't know how to open it
10:51Ronnie Karam: I like that she just like puts her fingers up against the door and like streaks them across and it opens, it actually worked
11:00Ben Mandelker: Michael's talked to that door ahead of time if you see Lake, like close close right on her
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12:45Ronnie Karam: Okay, class, let's begin. Psst, love your boots. I just sold a pair like that on eBay. Oh, really? Yeah, it took like two seconds to list and they sold almost immediately. I've been selling everything lately. Some chunky boots, a faux fur coat I never wore, and a vintage chair that was more of an expensive clothing rack.
13:03Ben Mandelker: You know, I actually bought these on eBay. Wait, are you Kitty sell stuff from Brooklyn? Okay, quiet please. Find what you love, sell what you don't.
13:12Ronnie Karam: eBay, things people love.
13:18Ronnie Karam: So they're like, should we, she goes, should we cheers? Um, to what, what should we cheers about? Plantain! And so Molly's stressed because she sees, uh, she sees stupid Emmy. And she's like, I mean, every time Emmy walks into a room, I just feel like the oxygen is like, I mean, she's bringing down vibes. okay i mean how can you have bad energy in punta cana go ask uh the real housewives of new jersey because they're the ones who got into a fight there um literally got kicked out of punta cana
13:46Ben Mandelker: okay i think they're banned from ever going back yes me is like anyway jail didn't they didn't it was the whole thing thrown in jail in punta cana when does the statute of libertate libertations limitations and on that because that happened on camera and i think we are owed that that footage
14:05Ronnie Karam: Yes, whenever we see the Thailand footage. No, not Thailand. The Real Housewives Girl trip to Morocco. Morocco, yes. We saw it.
14:15Ben Mandelker: Okay, here's a message to the hackers of the world. Instead of focusing on leaking things like Wes Wilson's nudes, can we leak things like footage from this fight or Real Housewives Girl trip to Morocco? Like, let's leak the stuff we actually want to see.
14:30Ronnie Karam: Yeah, things that would actually give us a boner, like the Jersey husbands being thrown in jail in Punta Cana.
14:36Ben Mandelker: Yeah. Thanks. Exactly. That's what I want. What was the name of that one hacker group? Anonymous? Anonymous. Like, focus on that. Please.
14:46Ronnie Karam: So are we excited for Maddie's gig tomorrow, everybody? Let's clap for Maddie. They're like, oh my God. And Molly's like, I want to speak. Like, obviously we need to focus on individual relationships and this trip is a really good time to figure that out. Um, it is too early for this shit. Okay. Well, you know what? The only person I'm awkward with is Lake, and that's her issue. So I've done nothing to you. Like, what have I done to you? What have I done to you?
15:14Ben Mandelker: Um, well, there was just, like, some weird energy at the very beginning of the summer. And then they showed the clip of Molly walking by Republic without saying hi to Lake. And then, like, fast forward, you know, like, the whole paint and pour thing. and like i didn't want to work with you but like i had to because love and maybe like said i had to hire you to be like the party planner and i think i like didn't want to do in the first place because there was like no trust there just because i didn't say hi to you like get over it yeah but um these like shade things that put me in a just have put me in a displacement because there's now like these new rumors that i hear that you're coming like coming up with like you had a call with michael's asking if i had a threesome with o'sheen on the night of the emo night and it's
15:56Ronnie Karam: like not true but you did hook up with o'sheen though no fuck out i get the fuck out of here
16:02Ben Mandelker: no that's valid though that's valid no i went home with one person and that was nessa the girl that i was with and also o'sheen i mean no just nessa i heard molly spreading this rumor from jordan
16:17Ronnie Karam: and it's like why not go to me about it like i already hate you bitch you want me to hate you
16:22Ben Mandelker: times two so brad's like um now well i will say joe at saltwater cowboys was like the name of the bars in charleston was so funny we were at saltwater cowboys and like maddie and her roommate think that that the did joe did say that maddie and her roommates think
16:41Ronnie Karam: that it happened wait wait wait what brad's like yeah you said it saltwater cowboys you said it And he's like, no, no, that's not what I said. And we see a flashback to Joe going, oh, guys, I'm not gossiping at all, but my roommates think O'Sheen had a threesome with Lake and that girl she was hooking up with.
16:59Ben Mandelker: Are you talking about the saltwater cowboys in Charleston or the saltwater cowboys in Folly? Oh, Folly. Oh, yeah, Folly. Okay. So Joe's like, okay, I might have loose lips, but compared to this group, I'm a fucking vault. I keep all my secrets in my hair. Call back, mean girls.
17:15Ronnie Karam: Joe, Joe knows better than to spread an unconfirmed rumor, especially to Bradley Carter. Like, why would you do that? You fucked up, Joe.
17:25Ben Mandelker: Mia chimes in. I actually heard it from someone else very close to Lake in the proximity of her sitting down. And then it just points to Michaels. Because apparently Michaels was the one gossiping. I mean, they're all, it's just so funny. Like, no one cares. Like, I don't know if anyone watching cares if Lake had a threesome with O'Sheen. But they're, like, really talking about it like this major rumor. and they've all talked about it clearly because it's coming from all sides yeah and he's just
17:48Ronnie Karam: like don't ask me well yeah but like it's the fact that there was a rumor in the first place and like i know you probably didn't start it but like whether you do a phone call to somebody asking them about it that's how the rumor grows legs it's like okay but i heard it so i immediately called michael's and i said did this happen it wasn't me being like oh my god this happened i
18:06Ben Mandelker: was saying like did it happen it's the same thing in this case i think and michael's like she literally asked like one question and like no was the answer like we moved on well but like i wish you would have told me the second my name was mentioned it's like um i didn't tell her because like girl it's like not that deep i don't have to tell you the second it's mentioned when it's
18:29Ronnie Karam: about a threesome i have to tell you the third it's mentioned and brad's like wait but okay but after prom night last year did you sleep with oisin then it's like no i did not and just like yeah you have you did though yeah you did
18:42Ben Mandelker: uh-huh you you hooked up with him for like two straight days is what he said and Brad goes thank you and so Lake just starts laughing because she's just so blatantly caught and she like she realizes her house of cards of being angry is just like falling over shut up Joe
18:59Ronnie Karam: it's like but why would you lie about hooking up with O'Sheen though like he's a great guy like look at O'Sheen's reputation like he's a great great guy awesome
19:09Ben Mandelker: joe i'm gonna kill you stop it naughty naughty lake naughty naughty naughty naughty so maddie's
19:18Ronnie Karam: like oh my god they all fucked him grace lily too like everybody fucks o'sheen and so like oh my god just stand on it lake and brad's like okay i'm gonna ask you one more time have you slept together and everybody gets really quiet she goes um in 2025 no and they all crack up so then we cut to her in confessional she's calling her mom she's like hey mom she goes oh how's it going well i had to talk about o'sheen like i just admitted to it and she's like oh god babe i'm sorry oh
19:52Ben Mandelker: jerry's constant disappointment in her daughter over the phone is like so wonderful i think she is hilarious and great it's like mom of the year um so okay but like um i didn't have a threesome
20:05Ronnie Karam: this year and all the other shit is irrelevant okay
20:11Ben Mandelker: um okay so Molly's like okay so the consensus is the table I think we just really need to clean slate it and like move forward and we need to focus on us like yeah okay I'm gonna clean slate it and like I'm willing to move forward and I'm sorry for being a bitch sometimes so then she and Molly and Mia just like high five and they're like and our storyline is over
20:33Ronnie Karam: so now they're gonna go do shots and um now it's activities for the day everyone loads up into the sprinter van and um lake is lake and brad are in the back and she's like are we really in the back what the fuck and
20:48Ben Mandelker: he's like oh my god that's fucked up please start laughing so then molly's like for me molly stuck sitting right next to emmy she's like for me and emmy like from the very beginning there's been tension it's been so awkward and then we see clips from last year because um i totally forgot that last year emmy was being a total bitch to molly at all moments you know and she even calls her an insecure bitch at one point she's like she's an insecure bitch so emmy like molly does not like her and now she's stuck sitting next to her on this long ass ride
21:20Ronnie Karam: yeah so now they go to the skate park and um because minimum height four feet sorry tj you can't ride this he's like oh that's not funny i don't i'm not gonna guess on that sorry it's not really please that wasn't that wasn't um so uh maddie's like wait what was the minimum joe 60 pounds okay we're good we're good um so belly gets on her helmet and she has an egg head
21:50Ben Mandelker: and it's just like having fun times zip lines they're gonna go zip lining oh my god it's up my gucci oh my god and ziplining and there's a lot of commentary about um things going up people's assholes or uh yeah talks about getting a veggie which is a vaginal wedgie a lot just a lot of crotch issues during this process yeah so now joe and brad are hanging out in a hammock
22:16Ronnie Karam: and um they're talking about the zipline and all that stuff and joe's like see like don't you wish julie was here to watch you have wacky times and he's like no because she would make fun of me she'd roast me i wish she was here though she she's got nursing school so she's got to do that you know and joe's like yeah wow that's good though like she's driven and goes yeah you know it's good she does something for herself like i can't imagine being with a partner that doesn't want to do anything he's like oh whoa okay wow ouch actually when i said that she's driven i
22:48Ben Mandelker: thought because she's going to school she's on school bus right so she's being driven somewhere that's like pretty cool i wish i still had school buses like no joe that's not what you meant he's like, yeah, well, she's going to be a good mom. And like, you know, like she's going to be great. Cause she's like, she has that nurse mentality, right? Like Julia is like basically like nurse and spirit all the time. Yeah. She'll be great. Yeah. She's nurturing. She's like, kind of me is like, do you think she'd ever feed soup to my bump it? That'd be nice.
23:14Ronnie Karam: Yeah. Like I'm going to be a good dad too. Cause like we're going to have kids and like one day I'm going to be like an awesome dad talker. I'm going to be like on Tik TOK as a dad. So dad talking. He wasn't driven.
23:26Ben Mandelker: he said he had no ambition. Come on, everyone.
23:29Ronnie Karam: That's the whole business. If anybody watches secret lives of Mormon wives, dad talk, it's a thing. We work very hard at it. Okay.
23:37Ben Mandelker: That's true. It's true. So, um, Joe's like, yeah, I like definitely want to marry Maddie. It's just like, what do I do first? Like, do I buy a ring? Do we get investors so I can start my company? Do I get a Kit Kat? Like they are really good. Like I need a break. I need a Kit Kat first.
23:53Ronnie Karam: You need to have a reason that she would want to marry you first and then go for the rest. So TJ comes up and he's like, you know, I just really want you to have your own thing. And like, I know you do too, Joe. So you can do it, Joe. And Brad's like, yeah, you know, you've seen me do my thing. TJ does his thing. Like, it's time for you to do your thing. And he's like, yeah, it's called Dad Talk. Did I already say that idea? Because it's going to be really good. Does anybody have a kid I could borrow? Because I could just start that right now.
24:22Ben Mandelker: I was kind of thinking of doing something called Bumpet Theater where I could sit behind a bar and then I'd put two bumpets on my hands and they could talk to each other like a puppet show. That'd be fun, right?
24:33Ronnie Karam: So then Brad's like, yeah, you know, I thought Joe would at least start a bar by now or something. I mean, something. God, he's got charm. He's got riz. I mean, maybe not so much the smarts, but I don't know. Being Maddie's sidekick dancer or whatever the fuck he is is not as good as doing something for himself. And he's like, guys, I appreciate you caring. I'm going to do something all by myself. I can't wait. Hey, you know what? I thought of a candy. What if it's like a stick, but the inside of it's hollow, but it's like chewy, and then you could chew off both ends of it and drink a soda through it if you want to, and it tastes like the candy.
25:10Ronnie Karam: That's licorice, Joe. Oh. All right. Well, you know what? I've got another decade. I'll come back to something. Yeah, I'm going to.
25:19Ben Mandelker: Wait, what about. Oh, I know. like, you know what I love? I love chocolate, but I hate when it melts on your hands. So I was like, what if you put a sugar coating around it? And then I'll dedicate it to Maddie and I'll call it like an M, like an M and I don't know, like maybe it'll be for Maddie and Emmy because I want them to be friends. So we call it an M and Emma's, something like that. Joe, M and M's exists. Oh, okay. But do they talk? Yes, they already talk, Joe. They already talk. Okay, well, what if we swap out the chocolate and just put in peanut butter and just dedicate it purely to Maddie Reese?
25:51Ben Mandelker: Joe, it already exists. It already exists. I know my last name. It exists.
25:57Ronnie Karam: All right. You know what? Maybe not Candy. Maybe Candy's not my thing. I'll keep on it, guys. It's going to come to me. It's going to come to me. So they go back to their villas and get ready for the night, and then they're back on the sprinter, and Michaels is really excited for them to see this place. So they're trying to guess what it is, and someone's like, medieval times.
26:19Ben Mandelker: I'm laughing. at the way you said that so michael's like it's an experience and justin he's like yeah do we have to make alterations to our outfit when we eat i'm like no guys just wait it's gonna be hilarious
26:32Ronnie Karam: are we gonna smell like the place when we leave because that's how that's how sir
26:37Ben Mandelker: no no it's gonna be gone so they they show up and it's this like theme park ride kind of thing
26:49Ronnie Karam: where you sit at a table and they strap you in and they lift you over the world and you're like hundreds of feet up in the air. I don't know that I did that.
26:57Ben Mandelker: They did this on Atlanta when they went to Greece and they like had to eat dangling in the sky looking at like the Acropolis. And they did that on like maybe one other show. They, I think maybe, or at least they did it on The Amazing Race or something. I don't, I hate this. And not because of being strapped into a chair or dangling. It's because you know the food is going to be garbage. Like it's not. Yeah. It's not even like a real kitchen. Where do you be? And where do you be? Do you have to lower the whole table?
27:25Ronnie Karam: Where does the waiter go? Like, where's the waiter?
27:28Ben Mandelker: Well, the waiter's like in the middle. Yeah, I don't want that. There's just no way that food is going to be good. Because it's already bad enough when you have a proper restaurant that's up high. Because you know that any restaurant that's on the top of a building is going to be garbage, right? Like, especially if it rotates. Like, good luck. Good luck with your food there. Oh, really? A rotating restaurant is never going to be good food. Because you're, it's the, yeah, yeah. Rotating restaurants are bad because people are there for the view. And so they're just, they're, they're going to put all their, they're just up charge prices and they're not, the food is just not going to be good.
28:04Ben Mandelker: Maybe the rainbow room was good back in the day. I don't know. I don't remember. I went there once as a kid. We went there with my family on Christmas and my mom put me in a little red vest, which was funny. Cause Christmas was my grandma's birthday and Andrea Mitchell got, on the mic and read The Night Before Christmas and I was so starstruck. But that's my only time with the rainbow. I don't remember if the food was good there.
28:30Ronnie Karam: It was the night before Christmas and all through the house. God, that sounds like hell, actually.
28:38Ben Mandelker: Andrea Mitchell reading. I was like, she's so elegant. I don't know why I didn't realize I was again in that moment when I was fanning out over Andrea Mitchell reading the night before christmas at the rainbow room yeah that's that is definitely a gay child
28:54Ronnie Karam: um so um michael's is like okay well being the one who's afraid of heights like i plan the most ridiculous thing eating dinner strapped into a chair 150 feet in the air but if i die in the dr oh god well oh well just bury me here so by the way this is when you confront emmy about
29:15Ben Mandelker: her microaggressions because she literally is strapped into her chair and can't go anywhere this is like the moment you gang up on someone and i was shocked that they didn't do it
29:25Ronnie Karam: so now the hostess comes over and she's like okay everybody i'm gonna help you get seated and brad's like um emmy is on the bottom of the list of people i'd want to see right before i die uh and then right below that is probably your fiance so everybody's like please don't let me
29:42Ben Mandelker: sit next to emmy please and um they yeah they all get strapped in and they get hauled up into the air and maddie's like god give me the strength to accept the things i cannot change like joe and michael's like oh i've never been strapped down before i have really yeah so their hostess chocolate is like, are you guys ready for this? Here we go! And they're all like, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god. So then it's fine.
30:14Ronnie Karam: They just go up and they're all freaking out and all that. So then they get up there and Molly's like, TJ, you have to be honest, you miss me behind the bar? And he's like, mmm, I miss our friendship behind the bar. And they're like, damn! So and he says, yeah, I miss you in those leather pants, I mean, those are great. She goes, honestly, I feel like so insane around you, Emmy, because like we have such a weird vibe. She's like, um, yeah, I, um, I, I, um, I honestly, like, I have no idea why. What? Like, what? We do, why? Like, why?
30:52Ben Mandelker: Molly's like, Emmy confused about causing someone else to feel uncomfortable? Shocking.
30:57Ronnie Karam: I mean, I'm strapped in a chair and there's nowhere to go, so.
31:03Ben Mandelker: and he's being just like fake as fuck right now. I mean, he's like never liked Molly ever since back in the day, ever since back in the day. Oh my God. Remember all those days ago to last year, back in the day, back in the day of 2024. Yeah. Never. She's never liked her ever, ever, ever. And when Molly used to work together behind the bar, we'll used to flirt with her all the time. And I don't think Emmy ever liked that. Like, Oh yeah. So that's, that's the origin story there. I forgot.
31:31Ronnie Karam: Yeah, and Molly's like, but I try to connect with you She goes, um, you know what? I don't think I've ever seen that I mean, maybe it went over my head Maybe it was like trying to connect with me Whatever my head, I don't know I don't know And everybody's kind of laughing And Michaels is eavesdropping And Molly's like, I mean, there were multiple times I reached out to Michaels and I was like Hey, why don't the three of us hang out? And she goes, um, yeah, never relate to me So, yeah, I mean, Molly, I would have said yes I would have been like, Molly wants to hang out? fuck yeah Molly
32:06Ben Mandelker: Michaels is like um well we got how many meters above the world and now she's like delusional all of a sudden and we see text messages from Molly to Michaels that are like oh you and Emmy should go get dinner or sometime on Monday like let's get dinner together with Emmy and then Michaels is like y 'all she's not gonna do that she's not doing anything
32:29Ronnie Karam: sorry I tried so i mean it's like i mean i i think you got the wrong vibe off of me or something because i don't know i mean i thought and she tells us i thought she didn't like me i mean i didn't not like her
32:43Ben Mandelker: i mean what well i was like uh girl be for real and then he tells us um i'd like to build some kind of friendship i mean friendship with molly like some kind of respectable acquaintance that'd be nice um yeah no no i know emmy's desperate for friends because hell has fucking frozen over and we've like landed on fucking uranus and she's on molly's oh my god okay you know like i hope we
33:07Ronnie Karam: can keep like you know like moving like towards like um forward or like um ahead or like not back but like you know friendship like i don't know we can just move places you you and uh you just just move you know it would be so great
33:27hey guys just i don't want to interrupt this but like what about we make like a little burger but
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35:26Ronnie Karam: and now they go to a club called coco bongo and then he's like oh my god the vibe of this club like i feel like like joe bradley on like a friday night in charleston no not not aimless just like having fun you know wasn't that a song from the 90s yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah
35:46Ben Mandelker: yeah coco bongo yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah coco bongo no there you go it made it it made it that
35:55Ronnie Karam: song did so well so um michael's is flirting with tj in this club and he's like hey next time you kiss me like you know kiss me like you don't hate me and he goes but i don't hate you he goes yeah you do and tj just kind of stares off into the distance and he's like what what i'm flirting with you like what's what he's like you're not speaking i'm just like i feel like this whole summer you're just like playing it cool and not speaking that's tj unfortunately i don't know if
36:23Ben Mandelker: you've noticed uh tj's favorite thing is the person's lips together and be quiet and look both ways and squint um and squint he's michael's like yeah like let me put it in perspective for you i'd be lying if i said i never thought about you when i was in a relationship he's like well what do you want me to say i i just really want to be home vacuuming right now so i'm sorry if i I look unhappy.
36:45Ronnie Karam: Don't say anything. Just be honest. He's like, well, this summer, you know, like our friendship has been friends with benefits with no strings. And now I'm starting to feel like there's actual feelings. And I don't know. I mean, I don't know.
36:59Ben Mandelker: Yeah, I actually like I actually kind of feel weirdly bad for TJ because I think that he's been kind of in this situation a lot. not in this situation in a situation a lot where basically he is like liked someone and then they like sort of like play around with him and then they move on or or i think he felt that way with maybe joe on a certain level and so i think that he's probably just like so guarded about these things and like someone drunk like a super hot guy is now gonna be drunkenly like oh by the way i actually really like you but i'm only gonna tell you that when i'm like really drunk and i think tj is kind of like i don't want to get hurt again so i feel like that's what i'm reading on his face And so I kind of feel bad for the guy.
37:40Ronnie Karam: Yeah. So it's like the, I'll fuck you, but I ain't going to date you kind of a thing.
37:45Ben Mandelker: Yeah. Yeah. So then, which is funny because Michaels was experiencing that. He talked about how he experiences that and totally different way where we're not different way, but like he has his own version of that where he gets that as like a person of color where like white guys come and they just want to like sort of partake in, Ooh, like, like hooking up with a guy who's like not white. And then they just like leave him. So it's interesting. I feel like it's interesting seeing their kind of what they go through colliding here a little bit.
38:14Ronnie Karam: So now it's the next morning and everybody's getting ready for the day. And so Maddie wake up. They're going to go get a massage. And Michaels is with Mia. And she's like, oh, my God. Last night was so fun, Michaels. The sky dinner? No. No. The sky dinner.
38:34Ben Mandelker: I mean, no one thought that was fun.
38:38Ronnie Karam: no were you testing us like testing our loyalty what was that
38:44Ben Mandelker: Coco Mambo was the fun part Coco Bongo by the way the song is called Coco Jumbo so I wasn't crazy there was a song called Coco Jumbo
38:51Ronnie Karam: there you go nailed it
38:53Ben Mandelker: yeah great song great song
38:56Ronnie Karam: so now Bradley comes in and he's like about to cry he's like guys Juliana just broke up oh my god I'm not even kidding you guys just kidding hey guys, Julia's here. And they're like, oh my God, Julia. I didn't know everybody loved Julia this much, but they went crazy for Julia. They were so happy for Julia.
39:18Ben Mandelker: So happy for Julia.
39:20Ronnie Karam: They loved it. So now massage time with Maddie and Joe. So they go get a massage and then Joe gets in the hot tub in the room and he's like, yeah, it's like relaxing. You should do this like before all your DJ shows. I could come up with like new candies that have never been thought up before. Like, you know, we could wait for our kids to do something funny. I could put it on TikTok. What about like, or you know what we could do?
39:46Ben Mandelker: It's like we could make like a candy bar that's like sort of captures that feeling of like before a show when you're so like nervous and so you're just sort of like laughing around and like snickering and like, we could call it snickers, you know? So I'm like, Joe, no, try harder, Joe, come on.
39:59Ronnie Karam: So obviously I've been feeling nervous about like going back on tour and like even playing like my set and like i'm just like making it up i'm like you know like i'm just making it up for like when i had to cancel it you know and then my dream international tour starts in putacana which is now and then i'm then it's a pizza mykonos all over europe so i do this one night and then more will come so you know it's like pressure and you know i feel pressure every time i dj
40:25Ben Mandelker: i just want to be able to like secure my future you know joe it's like yeah like i want to secure my career and future like not only for myself but like you know for our family that we're gonna have Yeah, I know, like a family, like one day is like important, but like we're also like really young and like you're still figuring out your quote unquote career. You have a career, right? Do you have a career?
40:43Ronnie Karam: Yeah, I do. I'm actually like a really popular dad talker. So can we get the kid? Can we get the kid? Let's just move it along. Like you're holding me back. Yeah.
40:53Ben Mandelker: Yeah. Well, like obviously like, no, I was like sick this past year and like, I don't know. It's like, yeah, now you're like healthy. I'm like, I don't want you to be like stressed out or anything, you know? It's like, and she's like, yeah, I mean, And like, I've got alcoholism, celiac disease, irritable bowel syndrome, GERD. Like I have like a lot of diseases. And like a lot of those, like the side effect is like infertility, by the way, Joe, hate to break it to you. And so she tells a story about how she's had celiac. She's been diagnosed since she was in fifth grade. And like a side effect is infertility.
41:20Ben Mandelker: But on top of that, in her family, there's fertility issues. Like her mom had like low egg counts, et cetera. And like at one point her mom was going to donate eggs to her sister. And then it turns out her mom didn't have any eggs left. and that was like a really devastating moment. And so she says, Maddie says that she has now gone and gotten blood work to find out what her egg count is. But she's also scared. She doesn't really want to like look at the results. And he's like, but I want to know.
41:48Ronnie Karam: She's like, no, no, because you know, like it's something I got to do with my mom. But like, I don't know, like I'm probably going to freeze my eggs because you know, having a family is something I do want. That's awesome. So we're going to have like frozen babies. You know what? I don't think that people on TikTok really have that yet so that's gonna be like a new thing for me you know like here it is i'm taking my baby outside so i better put it in the cooler you know it's gonna be awesome but like i did see
42:14Ben Mandelker: on like egg talk that like if you put your eggs in the freezer they explode joe not those types of eggs wait what other types of eggs are there i'm confused so um he's like you don't have to
42:26Ronnie Karam: be stressed i'm gonna be with you no matter what he's like and don't worry look we're gonna have a happy happy baby because i've got hella swimmers yeah that's and that's all you need that's that's
42:39Ben Mandelker: all you need is just a whole bunch of sperm and then they just make a baby yeah so if that's all
42:44Ronnie Karam: it took half of your socks would be walking around right now so now it's time to catch up with tj and michaels so they're just sitting there and um tj's like um are you over there playing with the jets
42:58Ben Mandelker: yeah what's going on nothing i just i don't feel that hungover yeah me too yeah it was fun yeah it was so fun but like don't kiss me weird next time like that was weird yeah you were like
43:10Ronnie Karam: kissing me in the club weird well i mean like there's a lot you know you have a lot of feelings and i don't want to hurt you but you know we've been making out and having fun but i don't want it to like affect our friendship or anything it's like yeah but like it's not like that for me yeah but you say that but then when you're drunk like you say things like i'm in love with you
43:30Ben Mandelker: no way what like no yeah no i did not say that no you said it no i didn't know i didn't say it
43:37Ronnie Karam: i didn't say it like i didn't so he's like well and michael says in new york we went to bars and we had a cab makeout a bar makeout and then he was making out with someone else i was making out with someone else and we didn't really talk about anything coming home so i just figured it wasn't that big of a deal and tj's like well when we're drunk he expresses his feelings to me and how he likes me and wants to he wants more than what's going on um so yeah so i think michaels is probably just saying like i'm drunk and that's why i'm expressing myself but he doesn't want to express himself when he's sober because then he doesn't want to get rejected you know it's the old i was
44:13Ben Mandelker: drunk it's also like this is actually kind of an amazing scene i think because again just how their scene last year in the nail salon, I thought was pretty remarkable. We really rarely see two gay men talking on Bravo and for, for a network that has such a huge gay following, it's just, we don't see these conversations very much. It's usually a gay sidekick or gay best friend or whatever. And this was like such a gay conversation. And I, I'd like, I loved it because, you know, they're trying to figure out what they are, but they're also in two different stages of being out of the closet and that's like a big thing in the gay community you know like when you're you know young and new and you're just like a kid in a candy store versus when you're like older and i feel like we're seeing that here we also sort of what i was talking about before is we see the um like the the impact that's been on both of them for being kind of like a play thing for others and i just think you're seeing all of it here and it's like a really kind of complicated dynamic that they have which i thought was great to see on tv like i loved this little scene in
45:17Ronnie Karam: the pool um so he's like well i don't remember saying the i'm in love with you comment he's like well you did and then the next morning he just kept saying i don't remember anything and then you know i think he felt embarrassed so i didn't really want to you know push the envelope um which you know let's just pretend that was used correct let's just i don't go in the staples correct and then at the club you were like when i was with preston i thought about you all the time And then we see him saying that in a flashback. And Michael's just like, oh, everything's so blurry and gray. Yeah, I don't really remember that.
45:52Ronnie Karam: He's like, well, but how do you feel sober? How do you feel now? He goes, well, there's a connection. So TJ is like, yeah, we're attracted to each other and we're each other's type. But, you know, you just came out. And if we dated, I feel like you'd realize that you want to, like, explore. And I feel like I'm robbing you from something if we're, like, pushing things further into more than just making out.
46:13Ben Mandelker: and it's also kind of his way of like you're in your you're in your horror phase right now so like make your way through that first and then you can come talk to me
46:25Ronnie Karam: yeah and he's saying you know i complain that there's no guys in charleston but i don't want to date someone 10 years younger than me i want to be with someone forever and the next relationship i want to be the relationship and i don't think that that's the case for him so that's sad but But also, yeah, 22 is really young.
46:45Ben Mandelker: He's young. Honestly, 22 is young. He's like, he's not like super fresh out of the closet, but he's like newly fresh to being famous and out of the closet. And he even said at the top of the season, he's like, yeah, I'm, I'm banging whoever I want to bang. So I think TJ is like, yeah, this is, TJ doesn't want to get hurt. I don't think. And I think he's afraid that he will get hurt. But Michaels, I think is also looking for something more real and tangible. but you know at the same time he also wants to have fun so it's also michael has a point too
47:15Ronnie Karam: because he's like well when things get too hot for you like my age or maturity is an issue but then when we're just alone it's not the case so right like what the hell yeah that's not fair to
47:27Ben Mandelker: me like you can't just like like like say these things and then be like selectively apply them to
47:32Ronnie Karam: me for why it's an issue i mean in a way it sounds like the perfect gay relationship really like you guys like each other you're kind of best friends and then you go out and fuck other people sometimes kind of together in a way or like at least yeah play together i mean that's that's an option you know there's a lot of options that is true you guys could you guys do have that option um but either way it's also a lot of pressure to put on yourself to be like my next relationship is the one that's going to be the one so i don't know i think both of them just don't want to get
48:04Ben Mandelker: hurt by the other i think so they don't want to get hurt but they're also sort of in different spaces but they're also attracted to each other but then it's also like oh if this does go sour then we're on this tv show and we're stuck together and it's gonna just get really annoying and i think that like tj has like a lot of baggage that he carries and um so and i think michaels is looking to i think michaels is really looking for love earnestly and they both are really lonely i think and they both want someone but they they just have different things going on in their lives i don't know we'll see how it goes okay so then uh we go to michael's going to joe and maddie's door and he's like it's the police let me in you just see emmy running by screaming
48:49Ronnie Karam: thank you for coming finally i've been calling you for 10 hours
48:57Ben Mandelker: the suspect is short long blonde hair female she's in here we just got back from the spa that was like really funny michaels like you're like really funny have you ever thought about doing like a dad talk could you like some collabs hey i wanted to invite you guys to come to the church with me it's
49:12Ronnie Karam: like church that my grandma went to and like i really would love to share it with you so i'm gonna invite lake and tj too but not emmy because she's a bitch they don't love bitches in church so and Joe's like oh my god that would be an honor like I thought at first I thought you were gonna laugh like and ask us to go to confession or something but like this is way more wholesome this is great did you know somebody already came up with peppermint patties
49:38Ben Mandelker: I kind of wish it was just the three of us because I was thinking like wouldn't be funny we're just like the three musketeers has we should do like a candy bar and call that Joe
49:45Ronnie Karam: Sounds delicious.
49:46Ben Mandelker: Sounds delicious.
49:48Ronnie Karam: So now the rest of the gang are talking about how Molly still has her wristband on from last night. Awkward. And now Lake Michaels, Maddie, Joe, TJ all get into a sprinter. And the rest of the crew is going to the beach. So Mia's like, yeah, I'm busting open this champagne right fucking now. And then Julie and Brad pull up. and everyone's super excited to see Julia because that's just how it is with Julia. I was like, oh my God, Julia! But Emmy doesn't react at all.
50:22Ben Mandelker: This cast is so big that like, Julia gets a whole other second giant group of people screaming that she's surprised again.
50:29Ronnie Karam: They love it. They love Julia.
50:31Ben Mandelker: It's like, okay.
50:34Ronnie Karam: God, what were you going to say? I'm pausing in mid-Emmy face for you to finish. I was just going to make a comment.
50:42Ben Mandelker: I was going to make a joke. And they're going to go to another restaurant. There'll be 20 more people from the show who are like, oh, my God, Julia's here. Anyway, back to me. Glad you got that out.
50:48Ronnie Karam: My head's about to pop off. It's about to pop off. Yeah, I'm like tanning in the tanning fucking salon. Like, I do not care about her presence. Like, she had this, like, little moment of bitching me out. So, like, last thing she said to me was, don't look at me. So, guess what? I'm not going to look at you. Okay. What? Where is she? Is somebody there? I don't even see her. What is everybody screaming at? Julia Roberts is here? because that's the only Julie I know. Like, I don't even care. I don't even care.
51:15Ben Mandelker: So they're like, Bella's like, oh my God. So everyone knew, who knew? And Julia's like, oh my God, Brad told him that we broke up. And then I busted through the door and I was like, surprise. And Bella's like, oh my God. Did you like play the shit off that? So good. Feels just great to have camera time, I have to say. And Justin goes, yeah, he did. He did such a good job. And Emmy's like, yeah, I mean, she's good at lying. Call her for any one of your surprise parties because she can lie the fuck out of it.
51:41Ronnie Karam: so now in the sprinter van um they're like thanks for inviting us to church michaels she's like yeah i feel like when you get older it's like you get really into your own spirituality and like your perception of like what a god or like a higher power is
51:56Ben Mandelker: yeah you really do yeah i totally do i totally i'm putting that on dad talk and now back at the beach fella's like it's so weird with everyone else not here i mean it just doesn't it feel like when it's only 16 of us, it just feels almost empty here.
52:13Ronnie Karam: So they're like, I wonder how they're doing. And Emmy says, not being in front of the church? I mean, it seems like to purposely hurt me. Like, ouch. Like, what if you're taking TJ to a church? Like, I mean, you see each other's weenies once and now you're going to bring them to the church that your grandmother went to? I mean, come on. God.
52:33Ben Mandelker: Yeah, I love Emmy getting so mad about the church thing. So now they're on the other in the bus to the church. Lake is asking, Lake is asking Maddie when she's going to be DJing and everything. And then Joe is like, yeah, but Maddie, like a socks out. Oh, she doesn't get in until like right after your sets night though. And like, it's like, Oh, I'm just kidding. It's just, sorry. I'll preview to dad talk. I mean, I have a lot of content like that. A lot of pranks.
52:57Ronnie Karam: Oh, so we see a flashback to Joe on FaceTime with O'Sheen and he's like, yeah, bro, people are just like now finding out about you and Lake hooking up like a year ago. He's like, oh, bro, I definitely took that fucking deep dive into the lake, brother. Yeah, nailed it.
53:15Ben Mandelker: Back to present, Michaels is like, oh, my God, Lake, you're not beating the allegations. Lake's like, oh, God, I'm going to beat it. Like, I'm never going to claim it. Never, ever. Yeah. It's like, yeah, well, guess what? It didn't work so well with me and Luann, I'll tell you that much. And they're like, yes.
53:29Ronnie Karam: Yeah, but like Luann's like iconic. Okay. Oh, she's not iconic. Like Luann's like a milf batty.
53:39Ben Mandelker: They just show a clip of machine pouring milk on himself. Like, yeah, not iconic. Not iconic. So, and then Michael's mom calls and, uh, Michael's is telling her that he's on the way to the Basilica. And he's like, can I FaceTime you when I get there? And she's like, no, because of course this mom is like this. And so, and everyone, like he's on the phone trying to talk to her. And then meanwhile, in the background, everyone's like, oh my God, I love dipping in that lake. oh yeah i drove in that leg it was very complimentary oh my god like did you guys have sex like we didn't have sex do you go down on him no did you blow him did you put his penis into his mouth michaels is like guys stop i'm on the phone my mom
54:20Ronnie Karam: she just hangs up he's like oh my god you guys i was on the phone with my mom and you're talking about eating ass like if my mom hurts you guys talk about eating ass in the background i'm gonna to want to die they'll start cracking up so they they're driving into the city and then they they
54:36Ben Mandelker: arrive at the church and i was sort of amused because um the way michael's talked about it i was imagining this like cute little church in the countryside surrounded by trees up a path it's like the the church in um i imagine like in like the white lotus in the second season when they like go to like this house off in the off in sicily or it's like i just was imagining this remote
54:59Ronnie Karam: place with like you know we're italian get the fuck off of our land to come out with guns
55:06Ben Mandelker: so i was just imagining i had this idea this romanticized tiny little special church and it was like this enormous like landmark church that like i've like probably a lot of people in the city go to and it doesn't take away from the fact that this is where his grandma went to but I was like oh like this is like a landmark it's like for some reason it's like they actually have tour guides at this church like yeah it's like it's a big church it's like a big church it's like I'm gonna take you to this little hidden place I don't know it doesn't take away anything from the story it just like I just was laughing at how I had created an entire narrative in my head and then it's just like this big super public space I don't know why it was amusing to me
55:46Ronnie Karam: It was a gorgeous church. My God. Oh, my God. Some of the architecture of churches is crazy. They're really, I mean, this was beautiful. Yeah, this was a beautiful church. So they go in and they check it out. And he talks about growing up in the church and how, you know, you're taught that being gay is a sin and all that. And so he feels like he's not necessarily welcomed, which, you know, is true, which is why I ain't going there. And also, you know, another reason is because they're always asking for goddamn money. I mean, my God, you can't walk into the place without them fucking asking you for money.
56:21Ronnie Karam: Jeez, you didn't even give me a full glass of wine. You gave me a sip. Okay. And don't add the service on here either. Fucks.
56:30Ben Mandelker: TJ is also talking about how church has not really been a big part of his life because he doesn't agree with the what, you know, what the church, what the Bible says about being gay. But he's there to support Michaels and everything. and they're looking at like flowers and vases and they're looking at like all, they're just walking around the church, like learning stuff from the tour guide and stuff. And, but Michaels is like really reconnecting to everything. And Maddie's also connecting because she's talking about how in the 12 steps, like the first three steps are about surrendering yourself to the greater power.
57:02Ben Mandelker: So we're all having like a very emotional moment connecting. And Michaels is like crying on a pew and he's saying how he like abandoned his religion because of everything, the gayness and all that. But now he's now feeling sorry for not coming to church anymore because he now kind of wants to come back to church. Hmm.
57:26Ronnie Karam: Well, I'll have fun with that. So it's a nice scene. It's a very pretty church. So he sits there and kind of cries and thinks about his family and stuff. And also it has so much to do with his past and just thinking about it. Of course. so um he is yeah by the way he wants to come back to church it's more like he just feels more at
57:47Ben Mandelker: peace he feels like he has like come to peace with his relationship with church and yeah it's just sort of like an emotional it's an emotional ending as he reconnects with his faith and
57:58Ronnie Karam: everything is a very nice little ending it was a nice it was a nice scene in a church right after a scene about eating ass.
58:06Ben Mandelker: Yes.
58:06Ronnie Karam: On a bus.
58:07Ben Mandelker: Perfectly placed. Perfectly placed.
58:08Ronnie Karam: Very bravo. All right, everybody. Thanks so much for being with us. We will see you next time. Bye. Bye-bye.
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