#3368 RHOA S17E07: Taking The Trip By The Rains

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1:23Ben Mandelker: that we just love to talk about. I'm Ben Mandelker and joining me here is Ronnie Karam. Hi, Ronnie. Hi, what's going on, baby? Not much. Very exciting times here in the world of crap because our cabaret is coming up so soon. You can get tickets to stream it because it's sold out in person and that's going to be on June 3rd and June 5th. June 5th? June 3rd, June 5th. Ticket links are on our website and our social media. so you can just go there and watch this madness.

1:54Ronnie Karam: Yeah, basically how that works is you can buy the tickets up to Showtime and then you can't buy them anymore. But once you buy them, you can stream them for a week. But don't think like, oh, I'll just buy them later. You have to get them before Showtime. We got that figured out this week. Yeah. Before curtain time, whatever, yeah.

2:12Ben Mandelker: Yeah, because once that curtain light goes up, the streamer is like, no, no more. You are in your seat. this is going to be a very professional cabaret with very professional songs and all the lyrics definitely memorized so get your tickets it's going to be completely professional yeah very memorized um which reminds me we should look into that teleprompter um anywho no we're gonna have but i will say this we are having a lot of fun uh with these songs we're just making goofy songs and we're gonna have a we're just gonna have a silly time and so we just hope you have a silly time too uh you know what we should do ronnie we should like print out the lyrics to hand it to the audience that way if we forget our lines the audience can sing along to help us like oh yes thank you thank you line god all right so today is real housewives of atlanta season 17 episode 7 dynasty diamonds and drama yeah wow what an episode what a sunday night for bravo just two back-to-back crazy episodes so this one leaves off with um right after kelly has called porsche's uh hoo-ha a chili cheese frito pussy and now porsche you know what that stuck with me all week i have to say it really stuck with me all week because i get that that's supposed to be disgusting but it

3:37Ronnie Karam: also sounds delicious and just the just the image of it that's terrible it is call somebody that I know it is kind of cheese Frito pussy and how would you even know if you weren't trying to get into it like you're thinking about it too much if you're thinking about someone else's pusey say enough that you're like I'll bet that's like chili cheeto free chili cheese Frito pie you're thinking about my vajayjay too much yeah it's like it's like one of those things like I'm just having

4:08Ben Mandelker: a visual of like the the Frito bag that's like cut open slit open and then they put like the Fritos are there and they put the chili on top of it and it's a stirring image and the funny part is that Kelly literally calls Portia a chili cheese Frito pussy and it's just like one of many that just like happens and then like later in the episode they make a joke about something completely unrelated because Pinky is sick they made a joke about ooh check the oysters and it's K. Michelle who is like spins out about you know her vagina so who'd have thought like shell's crazy right is that is that

4:47Ronnie Karam: crazy so we're just walking away with this from this episode like oh so you're crazy at first i thought oh she's a little oversensitive you know she's new to the group she talks about how she was traumatized by being on love and hip-hop which i don't know okay i'll go with it you know we we take all sorts of traumas on bravo these days love and hip-hop is your trauma i'll take it but now this episode i was like oh you're just like paranoid you're like a paranoid paranoid you're you're like a paranoid delusional chick and let me tell you i support it i think it's

5:22Ben Mandelker: hilarious she's hilarious but i was watching it like all these weeks because she keeps on she keeps on taking offense to things and i'm just been like ben be patient it's there's probably something this is probably something you don't understand you don't know what's like to be a woman you don't know what's like to be a black woman these are there are things here what she is sensitive to like it's just out of your it's out of your context so don't make fun of it just accept it and allow her to be um you know annoyed by this person because it's her lived experience but at this point i'm like they were not talking about your vagina i'm like you're literally crazy

6:02Ronnie Karam: all that aside like you're nuts um yeah and i i i really love it yeah because at some point i was like well maybe she's just oversensitive or maybe somebody did mean it that way i mean i don't know but at this point i'm like oh you're not just starting things for tv like you really think they're out to get you but like who's telling you because it does seem like shamia and kelly got her all riled up for this you know i mean that seems pretty obvious yeah but she didn't need to be riled up for the porsche thing before or the other things that have been happening

6:33Ben Mandelker: or phaedra phaedra like caught a stray in all this because the way phaedra laughed at that pedicure and i mean look i have no context about love and hip-hop i don't know what that experience was like for her but i mean it seems like that is real trauma for her because she is on this show and she is so guarded about like what this cast is going to do for her like she's so it's like me watching a scary movie there could be a totally benign scene but i'm always convinced there's gonna be a jump scare so i'm tense the entire time because i'm waiting for a jump scare in every single scene even when it's like a happy jesus and i'm like so she's waiting for her jump scare and i think at this point she's now anticipating it behind every corner and

7:16Ronnie Karam: i don't know it's the jump scare you have become the jump scare now they're afraid of you now they're all tense afraid of her you know about to go off and i just think it's hilarious i love it it is someone to be here from the cast of love and broadway and just have patty lapone read some of these lines like oh really you don't even know this vagina i've had 19 vaginas since i had that vagina yeah i would love a patty lapone reading i'm sure

7:43Ben Mandelker: andy will arrange for that and the club has soon enough um but i think we can all agree that i think this season of atlanta is probably the best one they've had in years it's just so funny it's that one episode aside where it was like really overproduced the first episode when they got to Dallas that was rough but everything else has been like pretty strong and this like they're having real drama again petty drama and um I'm feeling really good about it well that's good okay so um

8:11Ronnie Karam: they're fighting on the bad thanks they're fighting on the bad didn't mean that in a rude way it came off ruder than i thought you're hard it's okay i just was in the south i didn't mean it that weekend i'm doing this from texas i was in tennessee you know isn't it crazy that i was in memphis this weekend i actually went to arkansas oh yeah we haven't even talked about it you were just in arkansas i was just in arkansas too i know how crazy that both of us would be in arkansas within a week of each other yeah that doesn't even make sense it doesn't yeah

8:44Ben Mandelker: But by the way, shout out to my cousin Liza. She got married to her lovely new husband, Kyle. Liza and God.

8:53Ronnie Karam: That's cute. Yeah, Liza. Speaking of love and Broadway, was she like, I take you, Kyle. I take you to be the man of my dream.

9:03Ben Mandelker: Ring them bells. You gotta ring them bells. He lived in 49F and she was 49E.

9:11Ronnie Karam: Did they do that? woo pig suey did they do that thing a cool wedding i love that in arkansas girl they do that everywhere everywhere you go what was that when i went to my niece's graduation in arkansas they do i was gonna leave early you know just to i hate people like i hate the crowd so i was like i'm gonna pee and i'll meet you in the parking lot and she's like no no you have to stay for woo pig suey i was like what the fuck when i tell you okay so the whole stadium it's like thousands of people they're like okay now for now to bless arkansas or whatever and they go like this they go oh oh oh

9:58Ronnie Karam: it's like a whole stadium doing it was the weirdest i've ever seen okay that's i've never seen shit like that straight people are crazy and so i put it on um like instagram or whatever and someone said not all straight people are crazy i said okay not all straight people are crazy but all of these people were straight people so think about they were crazy

10:20Ben Mandelker: that is funny i only dipped my toe into arkansas but the wedding was in memphis so there was no pig chop suey whatever it was oh uh it was just like pretty chill chill chill vibes going on uh over there but it was fun to finally go but i did go into a pyramid that you know there's a giant

10:37Ronnie Karam: pyramid have you been to memphis no no remember i wanted to move to memphis and you were like no no you're not well it is randomly because there were cheap properties there it's really cheap you can get a house for five dollars in memphis i was like bye no like literally i i had a breakfast

10:51Ben Mandelker: sandwich for six dollars there i was like what this is crazy because like in la it'd be 15 um there's a pyramid there and i went to it and the pyramid it's a giant pyramid and it's a bass pro shop and uh i mean need i say more it's a bass pro shop with a pyramid i mean inside a pyramid

11:12Ronnie Karam: it was great aliens built there with my cousins i mean it leaves so many questions where to come

11:17Ben Mandelker: the aliens definitely built it the aliens were like we come in peace and we will leave you

11:24Ronnie Karam: duck collars all right so here we are at a bass pro shop pyramid in Memphis. And Portia's saying, girl, you know that's a motherfucking lie. My pussy is not like a chili cheese Frito pie. Kelly's like, girl, nobody wants to scissor you. I don't even scissor. And this fight's hilarious. Just scissoring. Just a fight over scissoring in general. I don't. Yeah. Which, by the way, scissoring sounds hard. It sounds like exercise.

11:52Ben Mandelker: It does actually sound hard. Andy's going to talk about this for the next 20 minutes of the reunion. Not next. But he will carve out. sometimes like whoa you guys scissored what was that like have you have you considered a lot of people what about you angela have you scissored it's just gonna be about this for like non-stop um so so then cynthia's like those legs they can't even make it around porsche's ass it's like okay yeah this so we were in miami last year after grenada and then like that night when we'd gone out so i was like taking out like a little hoe bath and then i was like you know and just like whatever and then like kelly you know gotta look at that cat and that platinum and post and she turned to me and i heard her say behind me oh i want some of that and should be registered for the moth you know let's put in the moth it's poetry

12:40Ronnie Karam: um and shamiya's like where was i when this scissoring was gonna happen okay i've never seen or heard of this and portia's like yeah and then on the elevator she was like i could come to your room and we could you know watch tv or something then we got to my floor girl i said okay goodnight girl and then i press the close button on my way out because a troll was trying to climb a tree that night and i was not gonna have it but also that's not how closing buttons on elevators work right when you get to your floor and you get out and you press the close button you don't i don't think you could i don't think you can do you'd have to reach back in and press

13:12Ben Mandelker: it then reach back out really quickly before the sensors registered that your arm was there because if the sensors see it it would open up again anyway so yeah it's not really how elevators work but that's fine that's fine yeah so i'm not into girls i'm not into girls i don't want a girl okay i want waffles so she's saying she doesn't scissor and then portia's like yeah but you can but you continue to fuck that married man she's like excuse me he will never give you a dime i love that like i love i love portia's portia saying you're fucking that guy and you're never gonna get a dime out of it implying that like the only reason to fuck someone is to get a dime out

13:45Ronnie Karam: of it and you're wasting your time the morals aren't bad because you fucked a married man the morals are bad because you fucked a stingy married man yeah it's a bad investment you know it's a bad bad investment of your vajay it's true i mean this you know it's it's as easy to fuck a poor married man as it is to

14:09Ben Mandelker: fuck a rich married man so yeah so they're going back and forth like who is this who is this who Who is it? Who is it? And Portia knows. I mean, Phaedra knows. Who is it? Portia won't say. And Portia's like, you know, Kelly's like, I don't, you know what? I don't give a flying fuck. I'm grown and I'm single. It's like, oh, you definitely give a flying fuck because we made up. I sent you flowers. You need them. You put them up your ass. I don't care. She goes, well, I don't want them and I don't need them up my ass.

14:34Ronnie Karam: Well, put them there, though. And she's like, bitch, you need a rose, not me. I'm all right. She's like, whatever. So Pinky's like, wow, it's giving everybody needs a rose. hell i need a rose sometimes too so phaedra's like wow i don't even see people talking about

14:50Ben Mandelker: that rose anymore i were people was the rose a metaphor for something more than a rose i mean

15:01Ronnie Karam: i guess it turned into one it does does it mean like a a pussy say is that like a your rose bud

15:07Ben Mandelker: i was wondering i mean we're gonna have to as the great aretha franklin once saying a rose is just a rose but apparently it might be more than that here right yeah this is where yeah this is where i'm like uh so anyway that i think it's a toy because i got the sense that

15:27Ronnie Karam: there was like a toy yeah because porsche is like well i'm scared of using those toys because you get desensitized like when i tried the rose that one time i sat there and i looked at it for like 30 minutes like who are you and who sent you okay let's look it up did you look it up it's a remote

15:41Ben Mandelker: control wearable vibrator which we of course we knew guys we knew we're totally up on these things yeah just edit that out just edit that yeah yeah just there's uh yeah a fit original rose

15:53Ronnie Karam: vibrator oh wow it looks like a rose it looks like a wiener with a rose attached to it by a rope and you i guess you put the wiener in there and then you squeeze the rose it's a great time to mention

16:04Ben Mandelker: as long as we're talking about products we are doing amazon live later today so come they might sell this on amazon they probably do we will be talking about um things for we're gonna be the theme for today's is going to be picnic because it's memorial day weekend and so i guess this

16:22Ronnie Karam: maybe qualifies under the eating out category oh speaking of memorial day we forgot to mention this

16:29Ben Mandelker: because we got so because we're lunatics um next monday is memorial day here in the states and we're It's a long weekend for us. We are taking the weekend off. So we are not going to be recapping Atlanta or Rhode Island next week. So we will, we will check in and we'll, we'll the following week we will, we will come in and touch base on those, but just, just mentally preparing everyone. If you don't know what to do that day without the recaps, there is the Rose. So we're going to be,

17:05Ronnie Karam: we're going to be coming at home with the Rose. Get the rose Some say love So yeah So they're talking about this rose thing And now they're talking about how great this sex toy is And I'm like Portia's like yeah I looked at that thing for like 30 minutes And I said who are you Who sent you And Cynthia's like I can do it under a minute 30 seconds I can be out And they're all laughing So Shamia's like I wet my bed so much I had to get it out of my house

17:33Ben Mandelker: This is when I was like I don't think we're talking about roses anymore because in my mind I thought it meant like you're get a rose like like you need a a suitor to give you a rose in a romantic gesture and at this point I was like we're not talking about that this is when Ben learns about female sex toys um so anyway but now they're all laughing like the vibe is good again all of a sudden and Kay Michelle's like we went from chili cheese hot pockets to everybody's happy and laughing and is this how y 'all get down I don't understand but I'm trying to figure it out.

18:06Ronnie Karam: Yeah. She's like, wait a minute. So now y 'all are good. She doesn't like that. It's time for a commercial. It's time for a Crappens commercial.

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20:18Ronnie Karam: So we go to a place called Bar Eden. And Pinky's just, she can't walk. She's like, I gotta go to the bathroom. This is bullshit. I gotta go pass out some bankruptcy show.

20:31Ben Mandelker: Just give me a moment. Just tell Barbara Eden to hold on. I'll just go to the bathroom real quickly and tell her I dream with Jeannie too. It's like, no, it's called Bar Eden. By the way, it's so close to Barbara Eden. Like, I can't deal with how... It's like naming... It's like literally naming a restaurant like C. Arthur. Or... the arthur's to a liz montgomery it's like finish it finish the get it don't do this to me

21:01Ronnie Karam: you can't get at least give us a barb a barb eden you know like we're all friends with barbara so

21:07Ben Mandelker: we just call her barb barb eden like why why do they do this to us so close so pinky has to go

21:13Ronnie Karam: to the bathroom and everybody else um starts ordering and pinky's i will sing oh cynthia's fault. And meanwhile, back at the table, people are talking about cooking and Portia's like, oh, I can't cook, but Mike can. And they're like, oh, is he going to come? Oh, some of the husbands are going to come to this thing tomorrow. And so Kelly is, you know, just talking about how fun. And Cynthia's like, my teetha, my teetha, my tequila commissario gala is only one day away. Praise the Lord. And he can't come fast enough. I need the ladies to put their energy into their soap opera gowns and the hair to the heavens uh she cynthia is like a walking commercial today everything she says she's like that's how this would feel if you had some casamigo casaflulu in your whatever the fuck it's called commissario in your life my favorite actress is commissario dawson um i just i i love how she keeps on calling it a gala

22:13Ben Mandelker: i'm like please stop calling the gala this is not a gala it's a part it's a cocktail party but like she keeps on saying gala like it's a ballroom and it's gonna be black tie it's a cocktail party um but uh so she's telling us synth is telling us that um you know kate's bringing her husband and piki's bringing her husband people are bringing all their men and she's like guys i thought it'd be really cute to have a missed tequila contest and whoever's the best dressed will get a nice little something or another and um and porch's like oh wow now you tells us after we ordered the dresses thanks a lot but then they start to realize you know we've been sitting here laughing for about 30 minutes and pinky like the food has arrived and pinky is still not there so cynthia goes to check in on her and pinky is just you know puking in the bathroom

22:59Ronnie Karam: basically yeah just barfing and barfing as and i don't think that cynthia realizes that she's trying to plug her tequila while it's being intercut with somebody barfing yeah cynthia's like i'm gonna do this game for the tequila it tastes like this cut to my blah blah blah plug in that toilet so um porsche's like you better go check on her you're gonna be in trouble again so cynthia goes to check on pinky and um cynthia you know she's like are you okay and she's like oh yeah that tequila works i guess and she goes you want me to bring you some bread or anything no do not bring me bread when i'm pooping out of every orifice in my body and i'm on the pot too Don't bring me a basket of bread into the bathroom No

23:46Ben Mandelker: This is just a ginger ale I don't know Pinky is suffering And Cynthia of course is patting herself on the back She's like see This is why you gotta be nice to people Because you never know when you're gonna need somebody Pinky has worn me out since the beginning of the trip And now she needs me to help her

24:07Ronnie Karam: I would not offer that person bread I would offer her an Uber That's what I would offer her There's no second chances. You're barfing at the beginning of dinner. Get the fuck out of here. Okay, here's your Uber. It's a vegan Uber. Go. Cloth.

24:20Ben Mandelker: I like when Cynthia goes, she's done for the night. There ain't a TED Talk left in her right now. She's like, wait, give me 12 minutes.

24:31Ronnie Karam: So back at the table, Cynthia's like, okay, I was just with Pinky. She didn't eat anything today in the tequila. I mean, she's not feeling good. And Phaedra's like, well, we should leave then. um which is nice to leave dinner no you shouldn't leave unless you're leaving her there to be a drunk house by yourself who can't keep it together to go to dinner that is her own damn yeah i'm not

24:52Ben Mandelker: going anywhere even if all you did have was fries for lunch still like you're an adult like you should know how to drink so cynthia's like yeah she can't go anywhere and i don't want to hit the road before she's done so when she feels like she can go hit the road so then drew is like oh well be careful with the oysters, Cynthia. To me, it was a clear joke that, you know, don't get food poisoning. Be careful with those oysters, you know? So Portia's like, let me check them first. So she pokes at them and then they're like, oh, what are you doing? She's like, what are you checking for? What are you checking?

25:23Ben Mandelker: And they're just like, it's like a funny moment. Like, oh my God, like don't get sick. Right. And then Portia goes, that vagina is clean. She goes, this one might be a little sand. And so she's making jokes because oysters are often associated with aphrodisiac, and vagina like it all makes sense k michelle is not happy k michelle michelle is not happy and

25:46Ronnie Karam: this was so funny because you're right i mean it was so you're like well i thought it was about food poisoning everyone thought that everyone thought that except k michelle so she seems to be getting all offended and um now we go to the bathroom and pinky's just stumbling out of the stall and she's got booties on her shoes her pant legs are pulled up she's a mess so So back at the table, Shamia's like, so, okay, Michelle, how are you feeling? You seemed upset on the bus. And she's like, I feel like I'm just trying to be holy. And I'm like, what do you mean? She's like, well, it's just there's a lot of stuff I've been wanting to say, but I just won't say it.

26:24Ronnie Karam: I will not say it.

26:27Ben Mandelker: Now, by the way, she was already – she's upset by the bus because she was upset by how the women could turn so quickly. and she was like wow they could turn so quickly that's dangerous they're they're ready to carve each other up and i'm not going to be carved up right like that's her vibe and then this oyster thing happened so now she's really upset and she's like this shit is not safe y 'all are beating the hell out of each other and portia's like well my intentions were not to have the conversation in the bus with kelly my intention is to try to have individual conversations at dinner instead it's

26:57Ronnie Karam: better for the cameraman well let me speak for myself says kelly she's like we're in an uncomfortable space with one another and we're trying to digest what's happening in this case we're trying to digest porsche's frito pie pussy like okay maybe we should just stop talking about food around kelly because she was upset about the frito pie pussy thing and now she's upset about the oyster

27:20Ben Mandelker: thing you know wait a second wait a second when you said porsche's when he said porsche's frito pie pussy you were talking about my pussy weren't you it's like no she literally said porsche

27:30Ronnie Karam: You were reading tweets about me from eight years ago So Portia's like Yeah well I'll check myself Because I was very disappointed In me on the bus Because you know How I talked about Your businesses opening and closing And how you can't keep anything open And how your waffles taste like butt hairs You know that's just not me That's not the kind of person I am Or I was talking about how you were fucking married guys You know and broke and bankrupt and pathetic and short. That's just not me. She's repeating everything she said before.

28:07Ben Mandelker: Now, when you say bus, buses are long and hard, sort of like a penis, and penises go in vaginas. Were you talking about my vagina all this time?

28:13Ronnie Karam: No, I wasn't. Why? I'm just talking about the bus.

28:18Ben Mandelker: That's not who I am today.

28:19Ronnie Karam: And you and I can have a further conversation, Kelly. And she's like, we're good. We're good. She's like, okay, well, I can respect that and I can move on with that and we can be in a group. and you know let's let's do a cheers and this is i guess gonna be the quietest cheers we've ever done in this entire trip and drew's like well i did want to ask k a question because i know you were saying like how you were feeling and so i was just wanting to know what had you feeling a certain way k she's like can i say something to you of course i've been very standoffish with you because you keep saying oh she knows my friend black i really don't know the man she was like

28:56Ben Mandelker: uh what like yeah the only way that i know this man is because he's in my dms and he's like lincoln my little sister stuff and he's like my little sister stuff and like i got a whole husband and like i don't know nothing about that man and came and drew was like what the hell and came and she goes yeah when it comes to this lady drew all i know was that when i was entering this friend group the talk around alanda was that she's trying to connect me to her jump off and she's trying to make it seem like i have something deeper with him but i don't so drew's like well i don't know where that's coming from.

29:26Ben Mandelker: I said to you one time, it's not something I've repeated or said multiple times. I think for the first time I said something about it on the bus yesterday.

29:35Ronnie Karam: And why would she say that? I'm like, why would she say that? And Kelly's like, yeah, you didn't know Black was in her DMs? And she's like, no, I don't know anything. He was flirting with you in your DMs? She's like, yeah, he was throwing hearts and stuff under my pancakes that I'm baking.

29:50Ben Mandelker: She's like, is that, were you making actual pound cakes or are you Was that some, is that like another word for pussy? Yeah. Are we still relating food to the giant eggs? I'm a real pound cakes. So Phaedra's like, well, I cannot be stirring up this much commotion in the group. The boy isn't so pretty. I mean, look, he might choke you out, but put those big teeth on you. Phaedra's just cracking herself up in the interview.

30:21Ronnie Karam: I don't know the nature of your friendship. I don't know that he's in your DMs, but he can't be in your DMs because he's single. He's got a lot of women's DMs. We're not together. We're not together, me and Black. And Cynthia's like, well, it feels like you like each other. And she's like, well, he probably does like me. And you know what? I just don't know what the future holds. Like Drew just takes this as like, okay, I'm just going to talk about myself now. You know, she's like, you know, as an actress, it's really difficult to know. So Shamia's like, oh my God, please. She's it wouldn't take her long to make a man happy.

30:54Ronnie Karam: It takes five minutes to make a man happy. And Drew's like, well, it's just enjoyable to have someone that's going to just kick it with me and make me laugh, balance me out. Shamiya's like, oh, yeah, she's on the phone with him for hours. I mean, you have to care about somebody DMing. Give me a break. So Shamiya's over there selling discord for no reason.

31:13Ben Mandelker: Although in this case, I think this is like valid discord, but she should have said it to the group. And Drew is like, is there more to be said? Shamia's whispering stuff to Kay and Shamia just gives her a look like because by the way it's clear that like Drew and Black their relationship is either hey I'll let you come on the show and like will you come on the show be my interest or they have something going on but she can't admit they have something going on because I guess maybe she's worried that it'll imperil the divorce proceedings so she's acting like they're just friends which is clearly whatever their relationship is I don't believe they're just friends and And so she's taking all these dances like it's fine.

31:51Ben Mandelker: It's fine. I'm like, I do not believe you whatsoever.

31:55Ronnie Karam: So anyway, what Shami is doing is like taking this and trying to make it a big deal to K. Michelle. She's like, oh, yes, she does care. And she does care about that man. And that's why she's saying, you know, blah, blah, blah. It seems like she's the one sewing the discord with K. Michelle, because who would care? I mean, all she said was, oh, you know, black, right? That's literally all she said. So I don't understand without somebody in K. Michelle's ear, you know, making it a bigger deal. Why is it a big deal? Because then we see the clip of K. Michelle meeting Black on the phone at the party when he was the phone date.

32:27Ronnie Karam: And she's like, oh, hello. So good to see you as well. You know, so it did seem like she knew him. So I don't know what the I don't know why this is so dramatic. You know, someone seems to be making it dramatic.

32:38Ben Mandelker: Show me. well so then they get up to leave and k turns to shamia and she's like what is wrong with you and shamia's like what do you mean i mean we're trying to have a come by a moment and you're just being really shitty and she's like with who you're okay you're never gonna be cool or make up with drew or none of that if keep on if you keep on doing this sort of stuff so k michelle basically is like taking shamia to task for trying to stir up like a moment and try to pit them against each

33:01Ronnie Karam: other yeah she's like well but he was she was throwing digs at me so if she's throwing i'm throwing her back. Did she throw a dig at Shamia? I don't remember.

33:10Ben Mandelker: Not in that moment. Not in that moment.

33:14Ronnie Karam: So then Drew is walking out with Angela and she's like, oh my God, she's whispering to Kay. Like, why doesn't she just resolve it with me if she's got a problem? So then we go back to Kay and Shamia and Kay's like, you were just trying to create new beef. Just talk to her. Leave it. Just leave it. I mean, and she's like, well, tell me how I tried to create beef. I didn't say nothing. And she's like, well, every time she says something to you, me make these little noises you know you have your own little commentary going on

33:40Ben Mandelker: so Shamia's like you know every other minute thing one and thing two want to bring up Portia and then we have montage of people like Angela bringing up Portia to Shamia everyone's doing basically I mean she does have a point here which is that Angela and Drew are always during the pot about the Shamia and Portia situation so she's like well I just had this one thing I mean do I look like I want to talk about Portia yes I mean like you rode that wave last year can't we do something else different can we focus on the on the black smoke that she's trying to see through so okay michelle's like you never did grow up in the hood did you she's like no i didn't yeah because you'd get dropped off in the hood like you need to get dropped off in the hood because

34:15Ronnie Karam: you'd be you'd be on some other shit so now um it's day three and they're doing little morning activities calling their families etc and um angela so they're gathering for breakfast and pinky's feeling better and angela's like so you see we don't kick you while you're down we want you to stand up to kick you so she's like thanks guys yeah and she's like you guys have fun and

34:40Ben Mandelker: like yeah it was good and they're you know she's saying it was everyone said they had a nice time and then they sort of realized like wait where's k where did k go so phadra goes to check in on k and um cynthia has the sore throat or whatever um but anyway pinky uh cynthia tells a story about how about like if you use honey it's gonna fix your sore throat etc etc uh everybody's like oh

35:03Ronnie Karam: my god it's like calm it goes down your throat just make it drip drip drip down it feels so good what what are you all on get some of that in your throat be like

35:17Ben Mandelker: so phaedra comes back and she's like yeah pinky was just relaxing she'll be down soon enough um and the plan for today is that they're going to get into their gowns they've got a jeweler coming over they're gonna get iced out and everything um and then drew has to explain to the audience you know what iced out means you know she explains i said is your drip you know i'm wearing icebox shows her jewels and everything so then anyway cynthia's like well in any case i feel like we got to a good space yesterday i want to stay in that space tonight so

35:47Ronnie Karam: enter k michelle so k michelle comes in and she's in a you know she's she seems down so they're like you okay she's like well how was dinner good good conversation yeah so angela's like well at dinner yesterday gay you said you didn't feel safe is that true and she's like oh no no and so she starts crying and they're like what is going on with you and she's like i mean y 'all can sit there and say you care about people but then you're sitting there plotting and trying to do stuff to people and i know if i know that a motherfucker is sitting there plotting my heart i'm not gonna smile in your face and i know i know exactly the whole plot i know it and angel's like uh what's what's the plot nobody's gonna be plotting against me and smiling my face none of you

36:41Ben Mandelker: of course she's like um is there anything we can do who is it who did it like yeah who did this and came to show like you know who you are because of course it's portia so she's not gonna say it and angel's like i mean everyone's trying to figure out what's going on like what the fuck is happening where you have to come to breakfast crying like girl eat get some food i mean everybody

37:02Ronnie Karam: might not know but and angel's like yeah i don't know we don't know portia's like wait wait wait i feel responsible okay i brought you to this group and i want you to have an opportunity to get to know everybody so i don't feel good about this like even when you sat down and i looked at your face i want to tell you i want you to tell me what's going on because if i gotta deal with it for you i will deal with it for you so um kate's just all upset i cannot do it right now i'm not in the space i'm just i'm not in the space and i'll get mad and i know the little jokes and i want you as a person at this table to know that you are a low down motherfucker and that's why

37:41Ben Mandelker: you ain't got shit and i see every goddamn thing they're like uh what was this what okay michelle explains she goes last night after we left dinner someone called me and said that there was a plot and a play in this whole time from some of these ladies and one was to imply that i was with your boyfriend or not boyfriend whatever the moment is true and then two to talk about a rumor that a disgruntled ex-ed eight years ago. So there's a headline from the Jasmine brand and says, K. Michelle says she's suing so-and-so for defamation of her comments he made about her lady parts. So she goes, I already know who you contacted, what blog is he called to go read that and then want to spread that?

38:25Ben Mandelker: I think that's very disheartening and that shows the character of these women. So in summary, someone called her. She says someone called her. Maybe she probably talked to a messy producer or something like that. That's usually what that's the code for says oh yeah someone wants to make it seem like you are getting up with drew's drew's guy and um someone wants to uh bring back the rumors about your vagina which by the way the person who brought back the rumors about the vagina was k michelle just yes yes i had no idea

38:55Ronnie Karam: and she's also the one making this black thing you know the thing about black a big deal because nobody made that a big deal nobody said anything she's the one making it sound like well well now he's in your dms like we know you're the one who brought that to the table nobody else it's so bizarre and i just was thinking it's mohammed just working overtime like how many pussies is he gonna defame on this channel um but yeah and and also if it was eight years ago and it was a headline on the jasmine brand it's already public so it's weird and i don't think anybody called her randomly i think it was kelly and shamia i mean yeah it was kelly and shamia doing uh an after like you better watch out because this is coming watch out they're probably gonna bring this up they'll probably bring this up so she won't say anything to the group so um shamia is just like making faces over here and so angela's like shamia i'm always looking in your face because it's the same face you've been making last night so what is it she's like um because this group manipulates and fabricate shit and it's annoying and angela's like so you know what she's talking about she goes well i know what she's dealing with she confided in me

40:06Ben Mandelker: and a few other people you and kelly and pinky duh and the shamiya is definitely the sort of person that's like well we are very close i'm not going to say what it is because i don't want to i don't want to betray our confidence which is her way of advertising that she has privileged information so angela's like well why would you hide that from the group because i'm not hiding anything but what i am going to do is be a confidant and friend in this case so portia is like okay so you're saying you think shamiya's hiding something and angel's like well i just feel like she knows what's going on and she's not saying anything so shamiya's like as a friend i would never tell their secrets because that's what a real friend does me shamiya real friend

40:49Ronnie Karam: fellow music star shamiya yeah yeah fellow music star shamiya uh so k michelle's like uh after dinner, I decided to go to Shami and Kelly to talk to them about what was being prepared in order to take me down. Well, did she tell you guys what they were plotting and planning? The producer sounds like they're going to laugh. Like, did she tell you what they were plotting and planning? She's like, I don't remember. Okay. No, Kelly says, yeah, I don't remember. And they're like, no, honestly, she's just, I really don't. So Shami is like, well, she asked us not to speak on it. And as a fellow Grammy watcher, I respect that.

41:30Ben Mandelker: so shamiya's like okay am i right right okay because you're looking like i don't believe you and angela's like no but like you had her pent up at the end of the dinner last night i mean like i feel like you're creating a narrative and shamiya goes well she pulled me to the side because she saw from artist to artist to fellow recording artist to fellow recording artist to fellow hit maker to fellow future hit maker she said i want to pull you to the side yeah i I was talking and I was telling her to let it go. Let her go with everything with Drew. Yes. Addressing this shit with Drew. She addressed it with me because I am a confidant, a fellow comrade of the industry.

42:08Ben Mandelker: Confidant.

42:09Ronnie Karam: And Portia's like, well, the only thing I heard, I heard Shamia at the end of the table telling you, Kate, that there's no way Drew feels like that. And Shamia's like, absolutely. And I definitely said there's no way that I would be on FaceTime with a man for hours on end, find out that he's DMing some of her friends and not feel a way about it. and Drew's like why are you speaking on how I should feel

42:29Ben Mandelker: why well I'm speaking how I as a musical artist and rum Baron would feel but for my name to be mentioned is crazy she's like no your name was mentioned because she said I need to move on with you and we need to press more by the way Drew's saying for my name to be mentioned is crazy you were talking it was a conversation about black how could you even bring me up in that moment because you were the topic

42:55Ronnie Karam: also you were talking about her at the same time you were walking out saying why is she acting like that so um drew's like stop making this about yourself you know i'm looking at someone that i'm trying to get to know in tears and you're making it about you you have a lot of problems and a lot of issues and it looks like you're feeding bullshit to me she's like you are bullshit you are bullshit oh well okay and drew's like well you just keep bullshit going you've been the bullshit of the trip so they argue back and forth and um she's like i refuse to tell a fellow artist secrets and drew's like oh god shimmy's got backup now so she can go hard for me and um so porsche is like okay let's just get let's just let her sit in for a moment okay and then we're gonna talk about it at a later time okay okay you don't have to do anything right now they're like okay do you need to take a walk i do i do i do Commercials.

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44:28Ronnie Karam: Psst, love your boots. I just sold a pair like that on eBay. Oh, really? Yeah, it took like two seconds to list, and they sold almost immediately. I've been selling everything lately. Some chunky boots, a faux fur coat I never wore, and a vintage chair that was more of an expensive clothing rack.

44:44Ben Mandelker: You know, I actually bought these on eBay. Wait, are you, Kitty, sell stuff from Brooklyn?

44:49Ronnie Karam: Okay, quiet, please.

44:51Ben Mandelker: Find what you love, sell what you don't. eBay, things people love.

44:59Ben Mandelker: So Phaedra and Angela and Drew, they're all telling us in their interviews, like, we have no idea what's going on. I don't even, like, what is this? And Phaedra's like, ooh, who we need is Angela Oakley on the case because she seems to research everything. And even when she's wrong, she makes a compelling argument. and Angel's like this is above my pay grade so now Kay and Pinky are on a walk and Kay's crying and Kay Michelle's like it just makes me so fucking mad and Shamia's like girl I am so fucking frustrated don't worry lay it on me I'm your confidant and Kay Michelle's like well I got a whole shit eating smile and a full face of shit I am not with that they're so fake and everyone else back in the house is like what happened last night did we miss something what's going on

45:46Ronnie Karam: So back outside, she's like, well, it was something they thought they was going to address with me at dinner. Drew, Portia, and Phaedra. And Pinky's like, oh, well, Portia, she was rubbing your knee and then she was part of the problem this whole time. She's like, but that's not bad. And then Drew's over there just looking stupid and not Phaedra trying to fan you with her church fan while they're all plotting against you. She's like, that's what I'm saying. People are playing with me. And then when I get to, you know, comfort, they're like, oh, well, Kay's crazy. Kay's crazy then. And so Kate tells us, I'm heartbroken.

46:17Ronnie Karam: I watch these women who deal with things from gossip try to judge me, try to judge me. The trauma that was caused by the rumor, it really hadn't gotten better. And I can say I'm healed. I'm healed like a lot of people, but I haven't. And I don't know when I will heal. Okay.

46:34Ben Mandelker: It's just so funny because now she's painting them to be like, and look how fake they were. They were plotting against me and then they would fan me in my face and hold my hand while I cry. Look how fake. I'm like, they don't have no idea what you're talking about. They just see that you're crying. Yeah. So Kay is like, I'm not going to let y 'all keep on playing in my face. And like, I don't hear, like I don't see, leave me, babe, because it keeps building up. And when it gets to where it needs to get to, I'm going to curse them all the fuck out. I'm like, well, I am looking forward to that. Even if this is, the root of it is extreme paranoia.

47:07Ronnie Karam: So the other girls are in Cynthia's room and they're like, what is she talking about? So Phaedra says, well, let's check and see if anything's on these Twitter accounts because we know the girls like to have Twitter fingers. So they all whip out their phones and start looking. And Drew's like, oh, here it is. K. Michelle tweeted, if it takes a group plot, rumor or scheme to bring me down when I'm coming in love, you already lost the game and lost in life. And they're like, when did she say that? Three hours ago. And Portia was like, oh wait, so that's before she came down for breakfast. Well, I've definitely spoken to Kay, and she never said any of that to me about feeling like somebody was setting her up.

47:45Well, plotting is such an interesting word choice.

47:48Ben Mandelker: You know what I think would be a better word? Commissario. Commissario. Portia, speaking of Twitter, Portia tweeted something that lit up Twitter, which was, she basically, I think it was, she responded to Kay. I don't know if it was this tweet or a recent tweet, but she was like, essentially like being, I'll tell you what being a coward is. Cause I think K. Michelle tweeted something about being a coward. And Portia was like, I'll tell you what being a coward is. Being a coward is, is tweeting from the same house, two doors down, right? Then bring it to my face in real time. And everyone's like, Oh, Portia.

48:21Ben Mandelker: So, uh, the feud is, the feud is feuding at the moment.

48:25Ronnie Karam: Oh gosh. Well, the other day I read K. Michelle saying, um. um oh everybody thinks i got problems with these ladies but i don't porsche is amazing and phaedra's hilarious and so i don't know i think everyone but drew she mentioned everyone but drew

48:40Ben Mandelker: she went out it was like a it was like a high school yearbook it's like the thing at the end we were like miss you has so many fun times oh my god porsche when we went to carvel that time i will never forget and shamia the joy we've had it was like going out of the way for everyone except for drew drew did not get a mention which was hilarious so portia's like well it feels

48:59Ronnie Karam: dangerous because she thinks some of us are plotting but like whoever's telling her that we're plotting like what the fuck and drew's like yeah that is dangerous and she's like and she's i think she's whoever's telling her is over there in that group so we go back outside and k is like i don't even detail everything that was going on and pinky's like well are you gonna say something She's like, no, because evil folk just stay evil.

49:22Ben Mandelker: One thing I don't have to learn is for people with no talent or no real business. And well, now I understand why the Drew situation. You've been promoting synthetic hair over there on Beaufort Highway that never sold. And she's talking about Portia there. And then you over there is fighting for a home with a whole man in the basement. Drew. And you want to worry about what a man's going to say about it. My vagina smells like a sardine or like a glade candle. And you remember this is how you're going to try to fight with me. no one can't let's talk about our jada or a glade candle well what was it a sardine or a

49:54Ronnie Karam: glade candle those are two very different rumors one's a compliment her vagina smelled like a glade plug-in absolutely delicious it just lit up the whole house or a sardine no two different things like are we making are we making caesar salad with that thing that's you know but you know i

50:14Ben Mandelker: recently was talking about this Jose Andres cookbook that I mentioned on Amazon Live. And it's a great cookbook. But in it, Jose Andres, acclaimed Spanish chef, talks about tinned fish. And he's like, oh, I love tinned fish. He goes, it's actually my favorite snack on an airplane. Because you never know what the airplane food is like. So I just bring my own tinned fish and just open it up and eat it on the airport. He goes, of course you have to ask your neighbor first. I'm like, and everyone else on the plane, I love tinned fish. You will never catch me opening up a tin fish container on an airplane i am like still rattled by this

50:49Ronnie Karam: so i'm rattled by it too how fucking tacky don't you ever jose andres you're a great chef you're

50:56Ben Mandelker: very talented please keep the tin fish for your kitchen yes rich people you still need to have

51:03Ronnie Karam: manners even if you're sitting in first class like i don't want to smell that shit so then um And Pink K. Michelle goes, do you understand how many vaginas I've had since eight years? I've gotten it tightened, snipped, tucked. This is a married vagina. You don't even know this vagina. Okay, well, then why are you getting offended over somebody you used to know? You know what I mean? That's an old vagina. Who cares if they talk about her? She's gone. She's eight vaginas away. You know what I mean? Like, focus on today's vagina.

51:34Ben Mandelker: Ronnie, Ronnie, Ronnie, Ronnie, Ronnie, Ronnie. we were spending too much time talking about K. Michelle's vagina when we should be turning this into a Shamia issue so here comes Shamia well guess what they're going to do they're going to turn around and say Shamia did it that very talented singer did it and you're planning and you're plotting oh I see your face Shamia are you crafting a new musical hit or are you just having attitude right now and I'm like yeah I have the same facials that you guys make except mine may be like a little distracted because I was thinking about do I want to make that an F sharp or do I want to make it an E?

52:07Ben Mandelker: And I don't know. There's a lot going on anyway. I have the same facials as you guys are making when you're plotting and planning on some other people. So now Shamia is working herself into a tizzy.

52:16Ronnie Karam: Yeah. But Shamia, like she doesn't even understand what she like, does she hear what she's saying? Cause she's like, Oh really? Well, okay. I have a face. Well, I have the same face that you guys make when you're plotting and planning shit on other people. Okay. So you're saying that you are planning and plotting shit. Like, do you even hear the argument you're making? Yeah. Like, come on. So then, and of course we're thinking it because you're sitting there, you're sitting there right next to K. Michelle egging this on the whole time. And last night, the thing with Drew, you're sitting there like, oh, yes, she did care.

52:45Ronnie Karam: Oh, yes, she did care. I would care if a man, you know, was texting me, you know, when blah, blah, blah. So she's riling her up at the very least.

52:54Ben Mandelker: I don't think anyone questions having like everyone has a face. Every single person on the planet gets a face when they're annoyed and that's okay. but it's the context of this face happening when k michelle's like like i don't want to say this and like oh shamia do you know it's like i know it but i'm not going to say it and then she gives it gives a face and everyone's like well what's up with the face like don't give us the face and don't you if you know it you if you either you know it and you hold it or but or you say it but don't know hold it and then give us the face like i know something that you don't know and i'm not

53:26Ronnie Karam: going to tell you people don't like that yeah so angela's like well she is making a face and she's been making all these faces and you know portia she still has an issue with you and it's unresolved and portia's like so you think she's the instigator and she's like well i mean clearly that's who she's confiding to we can see them confiding you know and so angela's like well kay has an issue with everyone that shamiya has an issue with so is shamiya putting a battery in case pack she's definitely capable so importantly angela also says that shamia is blaming basically

54:00Ben Mandelker: angela phaedra everyone in this group for the demise of the relationship between portia and shamia so she's saying like shamia has a beef with us yeah so drew's like and who said that

54:11Ronnie Karam: phaedra eats dead people and phaedra goes i eat dead people oh yeah like how strange i mean i I pick them up and drop them off. I send them to Jesus looking usually better than they were before death, but eating them. I've never thought about something so morbid and crazy. Do people eat dead people? Cause that could be a business. She's like, I could do that. Is there a market for this?

54:38Ben Mandelker: It is funny. Cause Kay has been saying this or I think Kay said it. Maybe she hadn't said it. Pinky is the one who said it. Okay. Well,

54:45Ronnie Karam: yeah. Pinky said it because Phaedra supposedly said she eats me and she's like, oh yeah well uh phaedra eats dead people so phaedra's like it's just weird but if we're gonna be in a group you gotta bring it to the group it can't keep you know can't keep being

54:59Ben Mandelker: this enemy has to be my enemy your enemy has to be my enemy because it's looking like shamiya's behind most of this stuff am i really considered a cannibal um so now it's time to get into glam for the gala they're gonna get in their soap opera dresses and everything and uh pinky is on a call

55:15Ronnie Karam: with her team talking about vegan vegan vegan vegan you know i want chicken but not real chicken i want it to be fake chicken but look just like chicken business business business business business

55:27Ben Mandelker: i had a vegan dinner last night except i made it on the vegan because i uh put some parmesan on it sorry but otherwise would have been vegan just for those keeping tabs on doesn't count it can be made

55:40Ronnie Karam: like a little bit of murder but it's still murder okay so i'm okay with it i'm okay your murder salad sorry sorry just the vegetarianism um so pinky's talking to derrick being like i can't wait

55:51Ben Mandelker: to see you and everyone's picking out their gowns and uh kelly comes in over to shamia's room and shamia's like girl i can't even like the fact that they hate me so much they want to just make me the target i'm the fall person for this it's insane like you just announced yourself as the fall person they just were like shamia what's going on we see your face you know something And then it was when you were walking before you said, and guess what they're going to do? They're going to turn around and say, it's all my fault. And I hear she's like, I can't believe they're saying it's my fault.

56:27Ronnie Karam: Shamia works so hard, but we, you know, we see you working. It's not, it's not as good as you think. So, um, she is like, yeah, she's guy fixing the telephone poles.

56:38Ben Mandelker: We see you working. We see it.

56:40Ronnie Karam: We don't really know what you're doing or why, but we see you up there. You know, we think to ourselves, isn't there an easier way to do this?

56:47Ben Mandelker: We see you work it and we're thinking, could you do this faster? And why are you taking, why are you in so much in the way?

56:55Ronnie Karam: So now Shamia is in a bikini and she's like, we are having a meeting. I'm going to demand a meeting. This will not go any further.

57:06Ben Mandelker: It's very big brother. Very big brother house.

57:08Ronnie Karam: Yes, it really is. So meanwhile, everybody else is getting ready and they don't want to be late for Cynthia's thing. So they're all trying to rush to get ready. And so Shamia calls this meeting and everybody comes down and they're like, why do we have to be at a meeting with Shamia in her bikini? Like, I cannot focus on anything except Shamia's butt.

57:27Ben Mandelker: Right.

57:27Ronnie Karam: Because her butt is like, it's big.

57:30Ben Mandelker: It's given BBL. I don't know if it's confirmed as a BBL, but it's given BBL. So they're all like looking at this BBL. and Shamia's like, okay, well, thank you all for coming out. I won't take too much of your time, but I did want to bring everybody together to get some stuff off my chest. I'm not going to sit around and let people plot, plan, and manipulate me. Like, wasn't that what K. Michelle's issue was? No, it's my issue now. Because y 'all feel like for whatever reason, if you don't fuck with me, you have the right to make me your fall person. And that's not cool. I know the other women were like, we don't even know what the original issue is.

58:05Ben Mandelker: And now you're the fall person for something we don't even understand. What is happening here?

58:10Ronnie Karam: Yeah. So she says, last night I came back to the house and I got information. I received it at the same time Kelly did. Kay was very upset. And as a friend, I stuck by and I listened to her. And now my facial expressions are my facial expressions because I see through the bullshit. I see the manipulation and I see how you all scheme and plot shit. And Kay, you're going to have to clear my name. Last night, did I tell you anything about anything? She's like, you didn't say anything about anybody. And you came to me, and when I asked you who said it, you said, I can't tell you. Right. Okay. So that's her business.

58:42Ronnie Karam: And she can say it when she wants. And that's the problem with this group. You go talk shit behind somebody's back. Okay. So they're plotting and planning to pin you for making Michelle think that people are plotting and planning. It's not about you, Shamia.

58:58Ben Mandelker: And that's the problem with this group. Y 'all always go and talk some shit and take some shit back. but like what i need to know now who is who is the source was it a producer was it a messy member of the glam squad who by the way is at the root of almost all these issues you know you all we all know it's a messy glam squad member but like at this point now you're making now you're putting allegations out there and you're saying that there's like a plot so if there is a plot we need we need to start finding out like who is saying these things well i think it's kelly because

59:35Ronnie Karam: shamia didn't say now promise now promise everybody this it wasn't me or kelly who said something to you she didn't say that she said it wasn't me right so i think that she's i think it was kelly but then they were all talking about it porsche goes wait a second i thought the plot

59:53Ben Mandelker: and the planning was uk like you felt like you were getting plotting and planned on you were you felt like you were plotting and planned on just but not shamiya and and so she's like so shamiya like you still wait k do you still feel plotted and who is the one who is the target of the various conspiracies right now i'm confused shamiya's like well i'm here talking to you

1:00:14Ronnie Karam: because i don't want you guys to make me the fall guy because that's what you guys do okay it's like what and i'd also like to add that k is the only one who's talked shit about the other ladies to this degree they haven't talked about her at all they've said nothing but nothing things about k michelle they like her michelle's like you guys are mean you're plotting and planning and meanwhile she's come on here and she's dissed every one of them down to their core she's been like porsche's selling unused she's selling disgusting hair under a bridge and this one's got a husband under the under the basement she's read them all for filth they've said nothing to her and she's like the big victim in all of it.

1:00:53Ben Mandelker: Don't forget my friend's words. K. Michelle, friend to no one. So K. Michelle says, well, there were some things that were going on and I haven't gotten into full detail with it because I'm just like not ready. It's a situation that I feel it's hurtful towards me and this person knows exactly the little comments and what they were doing. And we see a flashback again to Portia like touching the oysters and so they can act as stupid as they want to be and that is all good. You know what I'm saying? Because just know that I I know.

1:01:23Ronnie Karam: So she thinks because Portia was making the oysters into vaginas that she was talking about Kay Michelle's vagina rumor. I mean, that is some extreme paranoia. And when it comes to the – oh, go ahead, man. I'm sorry.

1:01:35Ben Mandelker: I just want to say, like, if there is some component that we are clearly missing and everyone is like, you guys are such idiots. This is the whole – there's this subtext or there's that. like i'm gonna say already ahead of time we will make any corrections but for right now this does not make any sense to me well yeah i mean we you know you can only go off what

1:02:01Ronnie Karam: information you have so yeah um so then um shimmy is so oh god anyway i got lost so uh she's like well when it comes to the black situation what is that about you go around and tell everybody she knows black and she's like i said it one time i said in the sprinter yesterday and i said it to you because when you guys met him on the phone to me you seemed familiar and then we see the flashback of her being like oh hello there it's good to see you she's like and i do know you i don't know if you all are friends i just i just assumed you were and shami is like well this conversation didn't just start happening last night drew okay and so cynthia's like black keeps coming up okay brings it up and i know where this is gonna go or why we just need to put this

1:02:43Ben Mandelker: whole black thing to bed with Drew in the bed with him. So Camry's like, you've said it before. She's like, baby, that never happened. I'm not your baby. That's the only reason. Now, why are you talking about babies? Okay, you're going to make fun of the fact that I auditioned to be in Look Who's Talking to Be the Baby and I didn't get it? Well, sorry. Go, so I was 14 years old. I can still play a baby. Now you're going to bring that up? You're going to throw that in my face again, Drew? Thanks a lot.

1:03:07Ronnie Karam: And she's like, because I don't need no Drew running around telling folks that I'm around no man. And they're like, uh she goes but i never said that she's like i got enough men running around here saying stuff about me and drew's like first of all i never told anybody that so let's be clear and she gets up which i don't know why drew would do that like we know you know not to do that so she got up and now pinky stands up and so um now k does the similar like now k is gonna get up and then Pinky's like, no, no, no, no, no. And Drew stands up and starts to go at her. And she's like, let me be clear.

1:03:42Ronnie Karam: I never told anybody that. Don't come at me like that. And she's like, oh, you know what? You don't know, little lady. You don't know. And they're all holding her back. Sit down, sit down, sit down. She's going to make a run on Drew. Oh, no.

1:03:54Ben Mandelker: Yeah, and Portia's like, we've been talking about black, and both of these bitches are blacking out. And I don't know if black is really worth all that. I mean, do y 'all really like blacks hookahs that much? So Drew is all like, she's upset. She's like, she's like, you got me fucked up. and she's like you know k michelle is like oh if you want to stand up we can stand up we can stand up she's a lot oh my god baby i can say it i can send i don't even know this girl you don't know me but you're telling people who i do know who i know you're saying who i do know and who i don't know and drew is like i don't know you i don't know you i don't know you care what it does they're like they're they're this ain't tlc no more my soundtrack ain't tlc girl this don't scare me

1:04:33Ronnie Karam: Okay?

1:04:33Ben Mandelker: So then Drew's like, she's like, I'll focus on my movie roles and you focus on your country music since you want to throw shots. She goes, oh, oh my God, I've done better with you than what you've ever done or ever will be, okay? So, oh, well, since you want to be disrespectful to me, and Cynthia's like, the theme for my gala tonight is Dynasty meets Dallas. I just want them to look like some of the characters on the show, not act like them. Commissario. Take you the commissario. Thank you.

1:05:01Ronnie Karam: Andrew's like you want a moment I'm not going to give it to you Why would I want a moment from you Don't nobody want to hear about that basement no more She's like that's my life That's my real life Why would I want Why would I want something from you I don't need a moment with you You need a moment with yourself With that grown man down there in your basement We're tired of talking about it Just like you're tired of fighting for your career milestones to happen That never happened

1:05:25Ben Mandelker: Damn That was great That was hilarious. Oh, man. Savage. So, okay, Michelle's like, don't attach me to nobody, okay? You know what I'm saying? But the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, okay? And she's like, okay, I'm going to dismiss myself. Michelle goes, don't float away, MC Hammer.

1:05:48Ronnie Karam: So, she goes inside and Phaedra's like, when I tell you, Kay Michelle went back to Memphis and picked up those reads and threw every book she had? she threw she threw the whole kitchen sink so she's like love my peace oh man it's just so funny that k michelle has been on this show and saying what she's afraid of is going to be this what the she's afraid this show is going to be is what she is being on this show like nobody else is being that way except her and it's cracking and she's so funny at it i mean her whole vagina monologue was really funny like you don't even know this vagina so now drew calls black on FaceTime and she's like so apparently I'm speaking on Kay and attaching her to you in some way and he's like well why would she think you're doing that I mean why would you want to attach me to her when you barely even want to attach me to you

1:06:39Ben Mandelker: and uh yeah and then Black's like I mean I've complimented her in her DMs before I've literally said in verbatim word for word I literally said like holy shit Kay goddamn it was a nice picture that's exactly what my DM was and she was like yeah but I didn't know about that DM like I didn't know about that DM like you didn't tell me about that DM so see she was upset about it so now outside Pinky is trying to calm people down and everything and Portia's like okay okay everyone like while we're here I do have one question while we're all in the room so Kay when you mentioned it at the table this morning that somebody was plotting and I said well how in what way like what do you mean and you were like should we get selling Kay stuff so that Kay could be like maybe feeling some way about me and like all roads point to me and I'm like the root or like whatever so I'm just like sitting here like well damn

1:07:24Ronnie Karam: and shamiya's like um you know feeling like now they've all had a team meeting and so they're going to come together to say we're going to put this on shamiya and portia's enemies are now their enemies and they're all kissing ass and everybody's go naked model now i mean but that's what you guys are doing you're pulling your little team meetings and then you're having a meeting and you're coming in and getting at everybody else so angela's like well i said i thought it was shamiya and shamiya's like you know what portia you're being so messy right now and i just can't stand it she's like what and Angela's like no I told him that I said it was you and so um Shamia's like screw me being a good friend you all want to talk about faces faces last time I checked I'm a black woman and

1:08:04Ben Mandelker: our faces say it all hello and so Angela's like okay hear me out Shamia when it goes back to me that you said Drew and I added to the demise of your friendship I'm like why are we still talking about this she was like because you're still talking about me in rooms that I'm not in and And I would like for you to stop. Like, you literally went off with Kay Michelle and was like, I bet that Angela's talking about me right now. And she's peeing on me, that fucking bitch. I'm going to take it. It's like, you were talking about Angela.

1:08:36Ronnie Karam: Yeah. So Angela's like, well, that was this morning. And if it involves me, I'm going to talk about you. And she's like, no, not just this morning. And it doesn't involve you. But it did. And you don't need to continue to insert yourself into my business. And she's like, I'm not. And Angela's like, you brought it up. And Shamia says, when we were at lunch, she was asking about Portia and I told her to stop. So we see the flashback yesterday of Drew saying, Shamia, do you have an issue with Portia? And so Angela's like, so wait, do you think I'm trying to hurt you or something? And Shamia's like, you're messy.

1:09:06Ronnie Karam: She goes, but you think I'm trying to hurt you? And she goes, yes, you're that messy. That's your nature.

1:09:11Ben Mandelker: Okay. Like, okay, well, you can have that. You can have that. All right, whatever. And Angela's just like, okay, well, I'm, you know, whatever. her saying i destroyed her relationship with porsche that's crazy i love that nobody will

1:09:24Ronnie Karam: fight with shimia it's so funny shimia is trying to make herself the center of this argument and they're like shimia would you move out of the way we're trying to ask we're trying to ask hey michelle what the hell she's talking about and every time she does shimia's like what are you blaming me for it's like we're not talking about you and we're not fighting with you okay go fight

1:09:42Ben Mandelker: with your dirty pillow another room shimia's like keep my name out of your mouth angela please like well, I like you, but stop bringing up you think I broke up your friendship. She's like, no, you don't. You don't like me, girl, and that's okay. She's like, well, you think I broke up your friendship. I think you're full of shit, and I do think that she's messy. And Angela's like, and I think you're messy, too, so that makes both of us, we're just messy bitches. Keep my name out of your mouth. Okay, well, stop saying I broke up your friendship because I didn't.

1:10:11Ronnie Karam: Guys, time for a Cynthia commercial. She's like, oh, this is too much. Honestly, I just want to be on a beach somewhere, sipping myself a nice cold margarita with my tequila commissario.

1:10:26Ben Mandelker: So Angel's like, whatever. Blame me for the demise of your relationship. I don't care. It's just because there was that one conversation that happened last season. But if the relationship were in a good place, that conversation would not have destroyed it. So she may have been one of the straws and maybe the straw that broke the camel's back. but the camel was no camel was having a hard time to me it goes from person to person being like this

1:10:48Ronnie Karam: is how i feel about porsche and this is how porsche is treating me and this is how i feel about porsche and then someone goes how are you with porsche and she's like how dare you get in the middle of my relationship like uh okay you've been talking about it the whole season so um they're you know kind of having you are fights like you're scared no you're scared no you're scared no you're scared so then they go to get ready and um porsche is like i don't know why everybody keeps disrespecting cynthia i mean she she got she's giving us a gala she brought us here she flew us all private now you're going to turn you're going to turn her into darkness when she

1:11:24Ben Mandelker: needs to be love and light cynthia's like please go to glam we're already late because by the way a thing that's been going on with us was that they were already before the house meeting they were already running late for the gala and then when when shamia called the house meeting they're like oh my god we're already late why are we doing this so like okay come on we're gonna do this so then um then all of a sudden this guy shows up at the police escort and uh it's a big night for sirens showing up in driveways on bravo although this one ends in a much happier way than on rhode island um although less funny as well so then uh this so basically this guy shows up he's the jeweler and so he has a police escort because he has thousands of dollars of jewelry on him so his name is jc and he was sent to dallas by guess who tequila commissario and yeah so he's

1:12:20Ronnie Karam: basically there to give them loaners of jewelry so they're trying on all these jewels and they're hundreds of thousands of dollars so they all try stuff on and then um drew cynthia goes to see drew and she's like i apologize because i feel like i acted out of character she's like oh the cheat the cheat time came out okay the cheat time came out and she's like well um but you know it's like somebody's got to get up if somebody's if it looks like somebody's about to get up you get up first no no no no no no no you get up first you get smacked down i think it's is what we've learned

1:12:57Ben Mandelker: here how have you not learned that yeah um i as if i am the run and cower in the corner type so i really can't weigh in yeah so then i'm like yeah so cynthia is i don't like tension ronnie so

1:13:15Ronnie Karam: cynthia no i don't either i mean i put both my hands up like this i give you two jazz hands to

1:13:20Ben Mandelker: the side of my face like don't hit me i will diffuse with humor everyone um so they're all getting ready and glam uh they've tried on their jewelry they're gonna get into the sprinter van but but drew has a headache so she's not sure she can be there on time even though she seems perfectly happy sitting in her chair getting glam done but she has a headache guys she has she has a headache so she's she's still gonna get into glam which is not if I have a headache I'm not trying to get into glam in that moment I'm trying to take a nap but it's okay so she's gonna get glam done and she's gonna meet everyone there

1:13:56Ronnie Karam: yeah so now um everybody gets on the bus and uh get going and K. Michelle is like well I'm gonna respect Cynthia time I'm gonna turn the other cheek okay I'm gonna get into it so now um the guy calls and he's sobbing okay

1:14:13Ben Mandelker: well this is this is uh the guy this by the way there's this guy named jc who i think i may have said that jc was a gemologist but he jc is actually the guy who's like a partner in tequila commissario and he arrived with the gemologist and he was like oh my god the party's gonna be great we'll see you over there it's gonna be wonderful it's like can't wait to see you guys later tonight and then he calls up he's like you just hear somebody sobbing in the background and

1:14:41Ronnie Karam: Someone's like, well, we've got bad news. It's raining. And Cynthia's like, is that JC sobbing? And they're like, yes, yes, yes. He's like, I'm so sorry. It's over. No, it's not. It's all over. It's okay. It's not your fault. It rained. Like, what are you going to do?

1:14:59Ben Mandelker: Cynthia's like, I can't. I just can't. I cannot. It was an outdoor event. It was all set up. And there's the balloons and the flowers and all the things. And really, there's a hurricane happening right now. jesus is like i'm so sorry i'm so sorry i'm so sorry the poor guy's like he was and we see this like footage of people scrambling taking down the balloons and like the the tequila commissary things like oh no and cynthia's just like this has been a disaster from the moment we arrived in texas and honestly i'm not even phased anymore so they finally get there it stopped raining everything's

1:15:33Ronnie Karam: fine and then um we go in and we see the party and they're like oh my god so dynasty so sophisticated And there's a poster that says, there's a Cynthia poster and it says shot o 'clock. But uh-oh. Uh-oh. It's going to be trouble. And of course, Mia's like, shot o 'clock.

1:15:51Ben Mandelker: I'm an icon and an influencer.

1:15:56Ronnie Karam: So Mike is there and he got Portia a rose dipped in gold. So here we are, back to a rose.

1:16:03Ben Mandelker: And Portia's like, when I heard that Mike and I were going to the gala, he was like, okay but you know you're not gonna go that by yourself i'm sorry when i when mike heard that i was going to the gallery he's like you're not going by yourself so he flew in just to be with me yes just to be with you and to be on camera but mainly to be with you so uh k michelle is

1:16:22Ronnie Karam: talking to her guy and she's like i got in a fight with drew it's pretty bad you know i need to say completely out of everything so then um we hear kelly coming in she's like where are the cheese It's me, Kelly.

1:16:40Ben Mandelker: And K. Michelle is like, you know, she's like, I got my eyes open to everyone in the room. I'm going to keep it cute because we don't want to show out there. But when we get to Atlanta, we got to talk.

1:16:49Ronnie Karam: So now Cynthia gives a speech. She's like, commissario, commissario. And as I said to my daughter growing up, commissario, thank you. So I would like to have a contest where you will clap for the person who's the most whatever. and we're going to give them a tiara to wear. Okay, everybody come up. Okay, clap for them. You all win. You all win the tiara. What is this? Why are you making this supersized for this stupid game, Cynthia? Get out of here with this. And we see someone breaks the crown and we see that it was 1995 with$5 shipping.

1:17:22Ben Mandelker: Right, because everything else that they had shown price tags for were like$400 ,000,$100 ,000,$200 ,000. They're like, 1995. So, yeah, the crown is broken. And then meanwhile, back at the house, Drew is still getting her hair done. She's still doing glam all this time. And so we're going back and forth. We're going back and forth to the gala. Everyone's partying, having fun. It looks like a really successful time. It looks like a great party. Everything looks wonderful. The women look beautiful. It's fun. And then we just keep on going back and forth. Then Drew is driving. It's very much like the Amazing Race.

1:17:53Ben Mandelker: And then now at 9 p.m., three hours into the gala, Drew is finally walking out of the house to get to the gala, which we saw took a while to get to the gala and then she basically doesn't arrive until 10 30 p.m which i think is so incredibly disrespectful because cynthia flew you private and put you up and did all these things and gave you a nice room when other people were like upset with their lodging but she gave you a nice room and then you show up at 10 30 like three and a half hours late there's like and then drew wants to have credit for but look i'm i made the effort to show up it's like no you no this you do not get credit for this if you show up that late that's disrespectful

1:18:39Ronnie Karam: that's totally disrespectful yeah so fucking rude and then she comes in while they're all leaving like they're all about to leave and then she comes in so they have to stay a little longer so she can get she goes and gets a drink yeah she's fucking rude this is where we need nene leaks to just not even let her in you know like that time that they all went to la and showed up three hours late and he read them for filth in the driveway and wouldn't even let them in i love that but uh we don't have that so they let her in and she gets some champagne um and then um cynthia talks about what a roller coaster this has been and the only thing that can help this group is tequila commissario thank you very much thank you very much and that's pretty much the end of that that is the end of that

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