#3370 Crappy Hour Crappy Hour 5/18: Upfronts and Shoe Fights

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1:38Ronnie Karam: Well, hello and welcome to Crappy Hour. I'm Ronnie. That's Benuni over there. Hello, Ben.

1:45Ben Mandelker: Hello, hello, hello. How are you?

1:47Ronnie Karam: Good. How are you? Feeling great. Feeling great. Well, welcome to Crappy Hour, Ben.

1:56Ben Mandelker: welcome to crappy hour ronnie how's it going good everybody welcome to the show this is our live

2:04Ronnie Karam: show bi-weekly show where we talk all bravo headlines and bravo news um we will not be doing crappy hour until june 8th this is our last one until june 8th sorry yeah but next week is a holiday and the week after we're going to be in new york city rehearsing for our cabaret if you want to stream our cabaret it's june 5th and june 3rd um there are three shows that you can stream you can buy tickets for that now you can get tickets on our website watch what crappens you can buy the tickets up until showtime and then they won't be available anymore but you can still stream it for a week after the show so go get some go get some tickets stop sitting on your stop sitting alone in your room come hear the music play okay it's gonna be so fun it really will be fun because um like ronnie just played for me one of the songs that he worked on and

2:54Ben Mandelker: it was really funny and i'm just laughing i just think it's gonna be hilarious and it'll be so low rent and so silly and we're just gonna have the best time so i'm really excited for so i'm excited to do to do it i'm excited and scared yes yes i'm excited and scared as well my little goldilocks

3:14Ronnie Karam: So today here on Grappy Hour, a lot's been going on on Bravo, of course. One of the biggest things was that Bravo caused a stir when they released their announcement for their upfronts 2026. Bravo unveils new series, Vanderpump Rules, Lisa Las Vegas, and Secret Lies, Texas Wives, alongside several fan favorite renewals. Secret Lies, Texas Wives. No, there's not even an and. It's just Secret Lives and Texas Wives. No, Secret Lives and Texas Wives.

3:51Ben Mandelker: Oh, okay. Yeah. Gosh, I feel like Bravo... I mean, obviously, Bravo has built its brand off of ripping off the names of other shows, but I don't like it ripping off the names of other reality shows that are made more poorly. I mean, I really like Secret Lives of Mormon Wives, or at least the season and a few episodes that I watched. It was obviously really good. But, like, I feel like they should be ripping off Bravo. Bravo should not be ripping off Hulu, personally. But there's a minor approval.

4:26Ronnie Karam: Well, didn't they have one called Secrets and Wives on Bravo?

4:29Ben Mandelker: They did. They did. Who ripped off Hulu? Wait, if Secrets Live in Texas Wives.

4:34Ronnie Karam: Which came first? The chicken or the egg? Which came first? The hair parted in the middle or the Mormon? Okay.

4:39Ben Mandelker: I would be so happy if Secrets Lives and Texas Wives had some of the cast members from Secrets and Wives. Honey, I'm going to do an Insta. Max, I'm going to do an Insta.

4:53Ronnie Karam: That show was a train wreck, and I loved it. It was Liza. You just got Liza'd. Wasn't that that show? I'm paralyzed. I'm literally paralyzed right now. All right. So some of the new shows that they have, Vanderpump Rules, Lisa Las Vegas. This, Lisa Vanderpump, has been ruling over the Las Vegas strip for years now. Has she now? I mean, she's there, that's for sure. But ruling over? I don't know. This is about her hotel, I believe, right? Let's see. Now she is expanding her Vegas empire through the opening of a high-profile namesake hotel. In this limited series, we follow behind-the-scenes dash to make the property worthy of the Vanderpump brand.

5:34Ben Mandelker: are they going to install leaks into the ceiling and will we smell bar rot when we walk in just want to know will there be an oversized pendulum that will swing through the restaurant and you have to avoid it like that one america's next top model challenge jacks is just going to

5:52Ronnie Karam: come into your room snort coke off your wife's ass and steal something yeah it's a part of the

5:57Ben Mandelker: experience. Will any restaurant ever be able to aspire to the Vanderpump brand? Hard to say. Maybe the Vanderpump brand is just some boxes and packing tape, because last time we checked, a bunch of the restaurants have closed.

6:13Ronnie Karam: Yeah. I don't know. I'm excited to see, because you know Nicolene's going to be there, and she'll be doing the whole, like, Oh, I love this chandelier, but I'd like to replace it with a chandelier inside of a cage. Inside of a chandelier inside of a cage inside of a chandelier until everything's just you know box box chandelier box box tiny little light in the middle you know yeah i mean i don't know i mean

6:36Ben Mandelker: i'll be i'll be happy to watch this one you know we both enjoyed the vanderpump rules reboot but notably the vanderpump rules reboot was not one of the shows that was given a green light for a second season that was announced and so people are thinking oh is it not coming back is it not coming back but i had heard that it was coming back so and then apparently its numbers on peacock were really strong so hard to say what's happening but people are in a tizzy that this is going

7:05Ronnie Karam: forward but not classic vanderpump rules wait is it not announced here in this thing they didn't

7:11Ben Mandelker: add vanderpump rules on here it's not announced it's not one of the renewals jumping ahead a little bit talking about what's workout renewed and what didn't but uh it's not one of the ones And Ladies of London was conspicuously off the list as well. Although I think that I would not be surprised if Bravo was taking like a little bit of a wait and see. Because Ladies of London did not get amazing ratings, but it had amazing chatter. So I don't know. I mean, I think that Bravo would be just absolutely foolish to not bring that show back. It was just so good. Yeah. But yeah, I don't know. I don't know what's happening right here with Vanderbump Rules.

7:46Ben Mandelker: I mean, what do you think about Vanderpump Rules as it exists on Bravo right now? Like the Lisa Vanderpump thing and exploring the world of Lisa Vanderpump. Does it still have that same excitement? Obviously, we know it doesn't have the same excitement. But in a time right now, we're in such a summer house moment. We're so dominated by summer house. And that sometimes when summer house is really thriving, Vanderpump Rules seems almost dated. but then when Vanderpump Rules thrives, sometimes Summer House feels dated. It's almost like they can never be thriving at the same time, I feel like.

8:21Ronnie Karam: I don't know. I mean, I don't think this is like a real show. This is just one of those, you know, we're going to spend six weeks watching Lisa open her hotel. It's like when one of the housewives gets married and they have like a little minute-long spinoff thing.

8:33Ben Mandelker: Oh, like a three-episode thing.

8:35Ronnie Karam: Yeah, I don't think this is like a real show, so I ain't worried about it. But also, it's never been about the Lisa Vanderpump world. I mean, that's a little part of it, but it's always about whatever crazy people you cast. And I don't think this is that. I think this is following Lisa around, picking out, you know, acting like she's designing a hotel. Yeah. You know, going places with Nicolene and being like, oh, Ben, or not Ben, sorry. That's my, that's my. I'd be so honored. Ken, sit on this bed and see if it's comfortable. I'll sit with you. Oh, it's the first time I've done this with Ken when it's not his birthday.

9:06Ronnie Karam: Can't he die? It'll be a much of that, I think. So the next one is very controversial, which is the secret lies Texas wives. And I'm sorry, but they're not saying and here. Even in this area, they're saying secrets, lies, Texas wives, comma.

9:25Ben Mandelker: Oh, you know, you're right. It's very important. Maybe that was a typo. Maybe that was a typo earlier in the article and I fault deadline for not raising their standards.

9:36Ronnie Karam: Truly, or not lowering them enough to understand a true Bravo title. so secrets lies texas wives and then it says in parentheses wt which means white right and um i think it does and i uh i don't know i think i think the wg stands for what the what the because apparently and this is just a rumor this is not announced by bravo but apparently they cast

10:04Ben Mandelker: aaron greeze in this did you hear that no they wouldn't have done brother i heard on reddit

10:11Ronnie Karam: my news source that aaron greeze is rumored to be in this she better not be because for those of you who don't know who that is she was one of the most racist people to ever be on big brother and that's saying something for big brother okay that's actually quite a contest and uh it got so bad that they had to change a bunch of rules in the way that they did stuff so but this way is

10:32Ben Mandelker: working title, by the way. I know, but it's fun to pretend

10:36Ronnie Karam: it's white.

10:37Ben Mandelker: I also think it could stand for Secret Lies, Texas Wives, parentheses. Well then. Well then. Huh?

10:50Ronnie Karam: Well. So, in the heart of Texas Hill Country is the picture-perfect town of Bernie. Oh, God. Where wealth, beauty, faith, and family reign supreme. Centered on a tight-knit circle of glamorous women. This series follows their lives as they raise families, run ranches and farms, and manage sparkling social calendars in a town rooted in rodeos and tradition. Behind the polished smiles and Sunday sermons, however, there are intimate relationships and forbidden romances that test loyalties and marriages, jeopardizing the town's pristine forbidden romances. Who's that? I hope someone

11:25Ben Mandelker: is dating a cactus. I forbid you. melba toast i forgot i forbid you from dating that cactus

11:38Ronnie Karam: uh let's see this is produced by wheelhouse spoke studios so what the fuck is that i don't know i'm

11:44Ben Mandelker: gonna look up and look and see what they produce i don't know um i what can you do know as as the resident texan of the podcast you know what the deal is with bernie bernie yeah city um bernie

11:56Ronnie Karam: is a rich town and where do they make their money from they were talking about we were talking about it the other night during canasta um that they're having a show in bernie because it's rumored that there's a real housewives of austin being filmed and didn't bravo keeps denying it or they won't and so i assumed that this was it bernie's not austin it's it's a little out and i was like we're robbed if it's bernie but apparently the rumor is you heard it here first you heard it Okay. That they are filming in Austin and that they are centering it around the wife of the football coach at UT. And she's really glamorous.

12:32Ronnie Karam: I looked her up. She's a beautiful black woman and she's like an influencer and looks like a model. She looks like a housewife for sure. So apparently that's being shot, but I don't know when they're going to announce that. I hope soon because this Bernie thing has me worried. Yeah.

12:47Ben Mandelker: I, you know, I, I'm very intrigued by that. people are on the, in the comments have repeatedly suggested, is this also a reference? Is this going to be Bravo's play on hunting wives, which I still haven't seen, but that's like, that show was kind of like mega real housewives, but scripted people. I think that's the pitch that's been given to me. So maybe this is trying to cash in both on the vibe of secret lies of Mormon wives, hunting wives, put it in Texas. Cause didn't someone, did Andy say this or did someone say it recently that Bravo has tried to Tried to get Real Housewives of Chicago going.

13:25Ben Mandelker: Tried to get something going on in Texas again. They've been trying different cities. And they've just not been able to make the cast work. Isn't that what Bravo says? I feel like Andy said that recently. Maybe people in the comments can back it up.

13:35Ronnie Karam: I don't know. I didn't hear that. I did read Frances, the head of Bravo. Head of Chairman of Bravo. What is her? I know. I always want to call her Frances McDormand. What is her last name? Frances Burwick. Yes. Frances Burwick. This is always like, hey, Frances. Hey, girl. Frances Burwick. I do always, in my mind, she's Frances McDormand. But I read an article that she did. I think it was in Variety last week. And she was saying, oh, you know, the landscape has changed. And, you know, she was talking about how McBee Dynasty does so well and that they are going to start catering to that kind of crowd more.

14:10Ronnie Karam: And I started cracking up because I know that's your favorite show. But I wonder, it looks like this is kind of a play in that direction.

14:17Ben Mandelker: I just want to reiterate, I am comfortable watching right-wingers on reality TV. I am comfortable watching it. It's not my favorite, but I can watch the McBees. What I'm not comfortable is watching a show that is produced like an A &E show. If it's going to be on Bravo, it has to have Bravo standards of how it is produced and filmed. I don't want shitty music cues. I don't want shitty editing. I don't want like scripted scenes where it's clear that they just told Muscles McGee to Muscles McBee to come in and have a fight. Like they're not doing their lines well. And like Bravo shows are better than those other shows.

14:54Ben Mandelker: And I watch them for a reason. So like, fine, give me the McBees, but don't give me the A &Es. Okay.

15:01Ronnie Karam: Okay. Keep it simple. Don't give me the McTLCs. Okay.

15:04Ben Mandelker: don't give me the mcdlcs or the mc80s or the mcdiscoveries or the the mchistory channel which by the way has nothing to do with history which you know it's not well neither does history

15:18Ronnie Karam: really the mcnackie these days neither do our history books growing up i'm like wait a minute that doesn't sound right well let me tell you this wheelhouse spoke studios who produces the show it's not looking promising for you and here's why here's what they produce buying beverly hills Netflix, King of Collectibles, Love and WWE, Million Dollar Secret, Secret Chef, Nothing But a Good Time, Gotta Get Out, Hype House, Duck Dynasty, The Revival, Assembly Required, and Last Bite Hotel.

15:55Ben Mandelker: These names, what is, you know, now I know why people are like, how do you watch that show? Because people, like, they think all these shows, all reality shows are like this. I need to know what Secret Chef is about. I want, is this like a coming out thing? Mom, dad, I know I've been telling you I've been working on Wall Street for the past several years, but I have to tell you, I've perfected my flambé. I'm a secret chef. No, we thought you were just a heroin addict.

16:18Ronnie Karam: Oh, that's the most disappointing thing we've ever seen. Is that why you got that bacon tattoo for your bar mitzvah? Oh, darling. It's time for a commercial. It's time for a Crapins commercial.

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16:53Ronnie Karam: It was just a tumbleweed blowing through there.

16:56Ben Mandelker: But then Wayfair came along and now I've got really cool stuff out there. I got cool chairs. You know what I love? I got some Acapulco chairs. They're those chairs that are sort of like, they look egg-shaped with like the cables and you sit in them and you're like, this isn't going to support me. And it does. And it's actually somehow more comfortable than anything else in your house. I got those.

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18:40Ben Mandelker: So here's what we've learned from people. We've said it before. What we've learned from people that we've met who work in production on the Bravo shows. What they tell us is that Bravo notes them to death, meaning that whenever they turn in a cut of an episode, Bravo comes back with paragraphs upon paragraphs. They inspect every single thing. They're like, why is this shot here? Why is this glance here? Why is it not there? And it makes all their lives a pain in the ass, which is good for us. That's actually why I sincerely believe this is why the Bravo shows are so good. And they're very, very careful about their brand and how their shows look and sound and feel.

19:13Ben Mandelker: And so I kind of actually believe, even if you do have a production company that is making Duck Dynasty and Secret Chef and like Last Bite Hotel and, you know, incredible cockroach killers. I do believe they'll still be able to do the show properly because Bravo won't let them to do it, let them do it otherwise. But then the McBee Diocese comes along and I'm like, this is USA tone. And I understand the first season was on USA, but we're on Bravo now. And I'm like, no, it was on Peacock. Well, either way.

19:42Ronnie Karam: So I think that because it was on Peacock, it was like a different vibe. And then they just transferred that vibe over.

19:47Ben Mandelker: And they were like, we don't want to change the vibe because that's what the show originally was. Okay. Yeah, you've had your practice thing. I just, I know I sound like a stickler, but I really do believe that Bravo puts out the best reality shows, you know? And they, even Netflix, Netflix does a pretty good job and Hulu does a pretty good job. But like, you can see the way in my mind, their pacing is just like different and just not as good as Bravo. And I just, I hate seeing this network that I love just drop their standards of how to present a TV show and a narrative for something like the McBee Dynasty.

20:19Ben Mandelker: So like secret secret lies, Texas wives, as long as you're presented to me the way I have grown accustomed. I'm like, Kelsey, please maintain the lifestyle to which I'm entitled to. We'll be all.

20:34Ronnie Karam: Yeah. Look, you know, we don't want to get in the nuts right before it's come on because we love I'm in Texas. So I love some skewering of some some Texas people. And we loved Real Housewives of Dallas until it went to complete shit towards. That was a good show for a long time. So we loved that one. So, you know, it's not a Texas thing. It's more of a please don't be another McBee dynasty thing. So returning series. Bravo has ordered season renewals of many beloved docuseries, including Housewives of Rhode Island, The Valley Persian Style, Wife Swap. I don't know. I don't know that I need another version of that.

21:11Ronnie Karam: Below Deck Down Under, Married to Medicine, Southern Charm, Summer House, Real Housewives of Salt Lake City, Top Chef. along with previously announced Below Deck, Real Housewives of Potomac, and New York City. Jersey and Watch What Happens Live are also included. And Jeff Lewis returns to Bravo with still flipping out, premiering later in 2026. So do you think this is just because this is 2026 and maybe they'll announce more? Because there's a lot missing from here.

21:39Ben Mandelker: It could be. Did they say Potomac? I mean, Potomac's already filming, so they don't even need to say that. But yeah. I, I, I think this is just, this is just it. And sometimes I'm like, are sometimes I feel like they leave stuff off intentionally to rile people up and to create chatter about it. You know? Yeah. They say that summer house is shaping up to be the most watched summer house they've ever had. They also said that this is, they said the current season of top chef is set to be its most watched since season, uh, since the 2021 season, which is a little surprising. Um, but, uh, you know, Hey, it is what it is.

22:21Ben Mandelker: I mean, I don't know why I'm being negative. It's like, I really liked the season of top chef. I thought it started off really slowly, but I'm like really into it now.

22:26Ronnie Karam: I think it's fine. I'm so used to covering it. So if we're not recapping it, I don't pay attention to things the same way. You know, like I don't find it as funny if we're not talking about it. So, yeah, I mean, it's fine. I get bored. I don't need an hour and a half of top chef, but I don't need an hour there.

22:42Ben Mandelker: I, I, it makes me sad. I mean, the dance card is so full for us right now. And as much as we love Top Chef, it does sort of break my heart that we can't cover it. Just because when we do cover it, we do find comedy that's not even there. And then once we sort of find it, it's so funny to watch it. Just the little idiosyncrasies of just the way people act and the way they do things and say things. And so I was sad that we just couldn't make it work this year. It just was too hard.

23:11Ronnie Karam: well let's get on to some bravo headlines for the week i think the biggest story this week has been bethany frankel versus dina's daughter lexi but it's been fucking hilarious so dina's daughter lexi i don't know i don't know why i can't just call her lexi because when i say lexi i think lexi girlfriend lexi or fiance or wife whatever but um lexi so lexi comes out with some tiktok And she's like, OK, so I sent I have a shoe company. I send Bethany Frankel a pair of my shoes. She wears my shoes. She's photographed in my shoes. She posts a photograph of my shoes. But then she doesn't tag the shoes.

23:55Ronnie Karam: She says she tags another pair of shoes that look kind of like them that are an affiliate link on Amazon. So Bethany used her shoes and then publicized Amazon shoes and then got the money off the affiliate link. And she was like, you're a fucking weirdo lady. like who does that so bethany came back with a video where she said all right all right listen to me i'm so busy like i'm doing this in my car all right like uh you know there's some influencer or whatever who has a shoe company and like comes after me like listen i've said it once i've said it a million times i'm under no obligation you send me shit like i'm under no obligation to do anything for you okay that's not how this works and you want to you know you could have played the long game you're playing the short game right now you want to have like a little attention and have this little video and get mad at me fine but you could have played the long game you know because i push product i'm a product pusher all right you should ask melissa gorga about her cookies like how many cookies did i push all right all right like like ask harry hamlin about his ragu or whatever like how much of that did i push all right i'm a pusher i'm a pusher so you know what you're welcome you're welcome and then she hangs up it's like oh damn defensive bethany that's weird behavior to post on Amazon.

25:05Ronnie Karam: Bethany,

25:06Ben Mandelker: someone else's shoe.

25:07Ronnie Karam: You fucking weirdo. She's correct. You're a weirdo.

25:11Ben Mandelker: I feel like it is a really weird thing. And Bethany did actually post a video where she was wearing the shoe and she credited the shoe. This went up, I think, I don't know. She posted something where she was like, okay, well, apparently I didn't, this is two days ago. Apparently I didn't post this fast enough. Okay. Because if I posted it up soon, you would have gotten the, you would have gotten the reference to it. I don't know if she actually linked to the other thing. But when she said, okay, keep playing the short game. Congratulations, you've been to bridge. Well, like as Bethany's best example of success is that she sold more sprinkle cookies for Melissa Gorga.

25:43Ben Mandelker: I mean, Bethany, you're better than that. I mean, I know you are like, you are still Bethany. You get like, why is that where you start with like the sprinkle cookies, but also like her lecturing about how to do business and like why, why are you're like, Don't play the short game. You got to play the long game. The long game, what happened to your Mark Burnett contract? That fizzled up. That doesn't sound like there was some long game moves made there. Everything with her has been short game. Talk show, Shark Tank, reality show, all these things. Short game, short game, short game. Okay? And like reality reckoning.

26:22Ben Mandelker: Reality reckoning is the epitome of the short game. You're like, wait a second. Bravo didn't go for my pitch. Okay, I'm coming for Bravo. I'm doing the reality reckoning. I'm going to take them all down. Where's that now? Okay, the short game is... Short game is... You're playing the long game on the short game. That's what you're doing.

26:39Ronnie Karam: Yeah, it was a mess, but it was funny watching people just get so pissed off at Bethany. And then just watching Bethany get so ruffled was really funny. God damn you. You come after me? You don't come after me? Who are you? You're some influencer. Get over yourself. I'm a pussy. You don't come after me. You could have played the long game. You could have won. You could add successful shoes if you were nice to me. You're like, oh, okay, Bethany. Okay. I'm going to buy some Lexi shoes. Damn.

27:06Ben Mandelker: Lexi played the smart game. Lexi learned because you know what? No one would have given a shit about Lexi's shoes. No one would have known about them. Bethany would have warned them. There would have been a link. There would have been an uptick in sales. I would have gone back. People would have been like, oh, Lexi sells shoes. That's nice. Now it's been in the news cycle. And Bethany keeps on keeping it in the news cycle. And I guarantee the next video that she puts out will be like, you're welcome. You're welcome. Because guess what? I'm keeping it in the news cycle. So you're getting the sales.

27:32Ben Mandelker: That's because of me. So congratulations. Congratulations. You did it. So, you know, I expect a free pair of shoes again a second time around because I kept you in the news cycle.

27:41Ronnie Karam: Yeah, send me another pair. So Spence T. Graham on Instagram says, it's contradictory. I'm under no obligation to tag you. Then you should have played the long game because I would have tagged you. Yep, pretty much. what a nutcase.

27:56Ben Mandelker: Does Bethany not remember selling her whole grain cookies in Whole Foods? Does she not remember how hard that was for her and how we saw her with her little table. We saw her on The Apprentice. You want to talk about a long game? My brain is the long game. I've seen your entire reality TV career. We know where you started, ma 'am. Okay? And you're going to start as someone here is trying to get their shit out and you put it on and you wear it and you don't even give them credit. You give credit to something else. That way you can get your money for it. Would the Bethany who sold her bird feed cookies and Whole Foods be saying the same thing to someone who did that to her?

28:30Ben Mandelker: I don't think so. I don't think she would have appreciated this.

28:33Ronnie Karam: Yeah. Well, it's Bethany. And I was thinking while I was putting the headline up there that it's amazing how crazy Bethany can make us, but she's still in like every other crappy hour, at least. I mean, she really knows how to keep herself in the news constantly. She really does she i guarantee she was oh i'm sorry i would say i guarantee she sends like media blasts

28:54Ben Mandelker: to page six every single day and page six is like we got nothing going on but in the bethany story i guarantee that's what it is and honestly the crazy part is i'm ranting about bethany but i was thinking this morning i was like she is such a fucking crazy person god i want her back bring

29:10Ronnie Karam: her home bring her home yeah come back bethany i'm not even joking there are other people who get the pr person and they're constantly blasting pr out and it's just so annoying and one example is aaron from real housewives of new york i mean she her pr person is over time and it's like you're reading something every day in these in the bravo news links about what aaron's doing it's like aaron you know bought a new leather jacket today aaron's tequila's really taking over her household or whatever and i'm always thinking wow what a good pr person because who cares about aaron you know This is obviously somebody just working for her, plastering the stuff everywhere.

29:47Ronnie Karam: But then you have people like Bethany, and they're plastered everywhere, but at least they're funny. I laugh. Did you see the one this week where she was on a red carpet somewhere and she was with her new guy? And someone said something like, and who do I have the pleasure to... Who do I... I might be getting confused with Vanderpump because they both had this moment in the past couple of weeks. But some kid was like, so who do I have the pleasure of speaking to? He's like, you don't know me? whatever if you don't know me you better ask around and then she like kind of fell as she

30:16Ben Mandelker: stumbled away i didn't see that but i saw the vanderpump the vanderpump video of that which

30:22Ronnie Karam: was very funny yeah it's like you don't know who i am then you better ask somebody because i've started every restaurant in this town i've got millions of tv shows you know whatever it was pretty funny too but anyhow she's all over but at least they make me laugh every time i'm a pusher

30:41Ben Mandelker: I'm a pusher. I'm a pusher. Benji Fajil in the comment says, Ben Mandelker is cringe. Where have you been? Like, hello. That's my brand.

30:53Ronnie Karam: KBurn says, did anyone see Luann's IG post basically making fun of Bethany? And someone commented, you're jealous. And Luann said, jealous of what? Her ugly chicken salad?

31:07Ben Mandelker: Classic. That was gold. Yeah. So it's good to see that Bethany is still in like, like one stupid controversy after another. Like it's, it's wild. The sort of, you know, one moment she truly is in a chicken salad fight. Now she is in a, you know, free shoe fight. I mean, it's, it's really sad where she's falling to. And this is something for us. I know it is so fun. It is so fun, but she did used to have a show on HBO where she would be like, okay, everyone, this is how you do business. Okay. Here's how you'd be a mogul. And now she's out here getting into fights with like. Well,

31:41Ronnie Karam: that show is crazy. Wasn't the whole point of that show? Like the whole prize for the show was to be Bethany's intern. Isn't that what it was? Yeah. It's like, be my intern. She's like, you want to yell? Oh yeah. Then why should you be here? I went to yell. Why are you trying to be Bethany Frankel's intern in this rented mansion? It was so weird.

31:59Ben Mandelker: Yeah. And they're all standing out there in the cold and they were shivering. And then she comes out on the balcony and she's like, okay, hi, hi, hi, hi. Guess what?

32:10Ronnie Karam: Don't cry for me. I'm a pusher. All right. All right. That's it. I don't want to sing the rest of the song.

32:14Ben Mandelker: I'm under no obligation to hire any of you. Okay. Bye.

32:21Ronnie Karam: I've tagged none of you in this post.

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33:58Ronnie Karam: Okay, so Real Housewives of Rhode Island is actually getting a lot of news, blurby headline thingies lately. I've been watching interviews with Rosie and Kelsey where they're dissing each other. And Rosie is saying Kelsey never even lived in that. She hasn't lived in that mansion for two years. She broke up with a boyfriend two years ago. She's been dating this other guy. She's faking this whole storyline for the show. And then Kelsey really isn't saying anything that coherent. but it's pretty funny watching them diss each other in interviews uh dino was dino who is kelsey's ex uh who's inexplicably rich and i think the son of that famous judge that tv judge

34:40Ben Mandelker: no no the ex kelsey's ex is the son of the judge yeah oh so this is kelsey's other ex because kelsey did date dino right well she like hooked up with him and then he stalked her right so this

34:53Ronnie Karam: This isn't the mansion ex. This is, he's not the son of the judge. This is the one that she hooked up with before Liz hooked up with. Okay, you're right. Yeah, this is Liz's best friend, Dino. Dino is facing life in prison after he's charged with dealing cocaine. My question is, was he dealing it on a fishing boat?

35:12Ben Mandelker: Three weeks out of four. Does he know where Carol's husband is from Tiger King?

35:22Wow.

35:23Ben Mandelker: This is crazy. So Dino Guilmetti? Guilmetti? Okay, this guy, he's like eye-fucking the camera in his photos. He's like, I'm threatening you, but I'm also going to make love with you.

35:38Ronnie Karam: He's like, you want to go to the water wall? You want to go to the seawall? Seawall.

35:45Ben Mandelker: I'm going. So, wow. So yeah, he's 48. Wait, this guy's only one year older than me? Get out. Um, I'm just like shocked by everything. Candy Burris just turned 50.

35:57Ronnie Karam: This is his picture. Everybody look at him. He's like, oh yeah. Should I murder you all? Have sex with you at the seawall? Hmm.

36:05Ben Mandelker: He's actually in the left photo. He's definitely doing the Countess Luan mugshot face.

36:09Ronnie Karam: Whoa, whoa. Breaking news. Breaking news. Breaking news. Carrie Shutt says they found that Tiger King guy. He was alive. What? What? What? Is that true? Did Bethany find him? Did we not know because Bethany didn't tag him?

36:25Ben Mandelker: That forced me into a Tom Colicchio response. What? What? Is he a misalogist? Looks like this guy has been dead for 20 years and came back to life. He's still doing more than my son.

36:40Ronnie Karam: Yeah. So Dino, big shocker to everybody who's been following Rhode Island. I don't think any one of us would have guessed that he was a Coke dealer.

36:48Ben Mandelker: From an unknown Caribbean island smuggling it in. Yeah. And then all of a sudden, they're on TV and they get rid of the boat, the gypsy. Something is like, you know what? Now that we've got a lot of cameras around us, we decided to get rid of our boat. I don't know why.

37:03Ronnie Karam: Exactly. Well, that's what was happening when they were getting rid of that boat so quickly. I was like, this is fishy. That suddenly, she's like, yeah, overnight. We just have to get rid of the boat. I don't know. He told me we got to pack it up. Like, are you sure you're even supposed to be filming scenes on here? Because I think this is about to be impounded.

37:21Ben Mandelker: I know but you know what though you know what though so if this turns into like a real like a real criminal thing what I like about it is the idea that like maybe Alicia gets caught up into it by accident like Alicia walks in on something and now the mob is after her but so are the feds and she's just on the run because she's the sort of type that would be in like an 80s comedy movie you know the 80s comedy movie where like someone's dating a guy and then she walks in on the guy and the guy's actually like a mobster and now she's like runs off with the bag and then all the cops are following her because she's got the bag, the mob's going after her and she's got to figure it out.

37:59Ben Mandelker: I feel like that would be Alicia. She's like, I got to drive out of here. But she has to like drive over bridges and she's really scared. Like, oh my God, I got to drive over the bridge and the car's going all over the lanes and everyone's laughing in the theater. Yeah. Is that just me?

38:09Ronnie Karam: I just need a cracker. Oh my God. That's her tagline. I need a cracker. I'm too old for this cracker.

38:17Ben Mandelker: She's with a parrot. that's going probably want a cracker and then they fight over the crackers while they're on

38:21Ronnie Karam: the run from the law it's great make it so in more real housewives of rhode island news um alicia shares cryptic posts about a about her spouse taking money without asking oh okay well he's not her spouse but a spouse so let's see this is from reality blurb the last one was page six so thanks to everybody we're stealing this shit from um before quickly deleting her cryptic messages Okay, let's just go over the messages. She wrote, asking for a friend. Do you think it's okay if your spouse takes your buddy and pays bills without you and you never see your buddy or your check? And then in another message says, asking for a friend.

38:59Ronnie Karam: Do you think it's normal for someone to put your face and use your image and story for a business that you don't see a dollar from? You think that's okay?

39:06Ben Mandelker: Asking from a friend. Are you supposed to say the asking for a friend at the first part or are you supposed to end with asking for a friend? Just wondering.

39:15Ronnie Karam: Yikes. so just not going very well for her and her guy um wow he takes her money and like her housewives money and just puts it into the till and and doesn't let her control over the account that's

39:27Ben Mandelker: nuts yeah you know you got to be careful you got to be you know because you know if if like she's now got a taste of fame she's got a taste of empowerment she's got people telling her you don't actually have to live like this and billy billy had a sweet thing going on and now suddenly She's woken up and she's like, wait a second. All those crackers. I've been paying for them all this time. I thought Billy was paying for them. He's made me pay for them. She's woken up. And so now watch it. Your days are numbered, Billy. Pizza mama's coming for you.

39:58Ronnie Karam: Yeah. One of the comments on Twitter was saying she lives in a common law marriage state. They've been together 10 years. Even if she leaves, she still gets half. And this is what I find interesting because, you know, people are like, well, why won't she? Why is she not wanting to marry him? She says she doesn't want to marry him because he wants her to sign a prenup that says she'll get nothing, basically. And she's like, that doesn't seem fair. And I was pointing out recently that if they've been together long enough, she'll get half if she doesn't marry him, right? Because it's common law. So I guess that's interesting, too, because Kelsey was saying, you know, well, I'm entitled to half of this boyfriend stuff, even though I've never been married to him.

40:37Ronnie Karam: So I don't know why it's so weird that I'm letting him pay for my apartment. And I was saying, I don't know that you are entitled. But I guess that's true if it's a common loss date. And maybe you are. Yeah. Although it was less than 10 years, I think, that Kelsey was there. I think the boyfriend got to the nine-year mark and was like, see ya!

40:54Ben Mandelker: The boyfriend's like, yeah, bye. Like an old queen in a bar told me that they were broken up before the season even began. That he was kind enough, quote-unquote, quote-unquote, kind enough to let her film the first part of the season pretending like they were still together. And so maybe that was like right before the 10-year mark or something like that. I don't know. who knows yeah who knows about these old queens see their rumors at the bar well yeah that's what

41:19Ronnie Karam: um that's what rosie's has been saying all over the place um so um let's see what else brian pontarelli that's the cheater melty face cheater of rhode island his rumored mistress beth walker sues him following his breach of contract lawsuit accuses rula of making disparaging remarks on watch what happens live ma 'am if you are a mistress and you are walking around flaunting you're fucking the someone's husband all over the place you get whatever disparaging mark remarks are thrown your way i'm so sorry but you're crazy yeah now sue brian is great though but

41:56Ben Mandelker: sue brian sue brian but also like this lady is so thirsty she doesn't even get a photo in this reality blurb article that's the saddest part good for them i still don't even know what this lady looks like that's the crazy oh i don't know that she's trying so hard she's trying so hard to get on our radars she you know what she needs to do she's a happy hour bethany she's she's the

42:16Ronnie Karam: human equivalent of a happy hour at applebee's just think think about that yeah no brian the

42:22Ben Mandelker: more i look at him i've always felt like brian looked like a capybara but now that i look at him he sort of has that like wallace and gromit look as well he's like a wallace and gromit take on a capybara does that make sense yeah it does actually he's wearing a t-shirt in this picture

42:40Ronnie Karam: with here let me show people this picture because it's hilarious he's wearing a t-shirt that's it has a crown and it has r and r backwards with the diamond in the middle and it says real by rula

42:54Ben Mandelker: isn't she doesn't she do like mortgages or something like yeah he has a congratulations You got a good interest rate. You got a t-shirt. It's called R &R, real by rule. It's a real interest rate. That's what it means.

43:06Ronnie Karam: Don't worry, guys. I know you guys are worried about Brian being evil, but do not worry. He's wearing a giant crucifix. He's a good person. Don't worry about it, guys.

43:17Ben Mandelker: Thank God. I just want to show you. Here's a picture of Brian.

43:22Ben Mandelker: I really feel like this is who he is. Actually, it's disrespectful to Capybara. I was trying to zoom in, but it actually somehow made it worse.

43:33Ronnie Karam: I will say that Brian does have very nice forehead skin. Look at that. That man has been through a bowling ball buffer. He's been through it, and it looks great. I should have skin like this.

43:50Ben Mandelker: Why does his blazer look like the stage for the mermaid number in Little Mermaid? It's when all the sisters sing a song in the beginning. I feel like they're all going to peer on his chest and do some Busby Berkeley mermaid dancing.

44:04Ronnie Karam: So yeah, Brian deserves what he gets, I think. But this lady being like, rule of his meeting me, I'll watch what happens. Yeah. You think? Fucking my husband. So what else here? Any of these you want to go for?

44:20Ben Mandelker: Yeah. The other thing that people were talking a lot about is that Danielle from summer house and now in the city is pregnant with Owen's baby. Well, it's really her baby. I was really there, baby, but they are pregnant. So, uh, everyone, everyone was very, you know, congratulatory to them. So there, that's, that's the big news on that front. Um, I don't know if there was any major, was there any major, I mean, the other major news on the, on the whole, you know, West and what's it called? Amanda Sierra thing. There was just more Jen Fessler stuff. Jen Fessler was on Jeff Lewis and of course was denying everything.

45:01Ben Mandelker: Michael Beck was saying, you should reach out to her. And she's like, I don't have a number. What am I supposed to do? I don't have a number. I'm still just so amused that Jen Fessler got dragged into this thing.

45:11Ronnie Karam: She was just getting so pissed. I'm so sick. Everybody's talking about it all the time. I didn't do anything. I didn't do anything to this girl. Why should I? She's getting so defensive. And Becky was just like, you know, just speaking for the people, Jen. Maybe you should make an effort to calm this down and not threaten to sue people. It's like, whatever. So, yeah, I think it's pretty funny, too. I don't know why she's getting so offended. I think that people, I mean, I get that she's married and blah, blah, blah. But her husband doesn't really care. I think that people online are just really mean.

45:43Ronnie Karam: You know, they're like, you slept with that old lady and stuff like that. Listen, old people are allowed to fuck too, you guys. Jeez.

45:50Ben Mandelker: I mean, Jen Fessler has never had this much attention in pop culture. Like, people are making montages. They are pulling footage. They're doing all this stuff. I mean, the woman has never been in such a white hot moment. It's crazy. I feel like she, I think on some level, she's actually really enjoying it. I think she has to pretend to be offended and horrified because she's in this marriage with Jeff Fessler. But I think deep down, she's like, suck it, Teresa. Look who's in the headlines now, ladies. The friend of, the friend of mid-big times. Fessler's made it.

46:28Ronnie Karam: You think I stopped at James Gandolfini? Well, I didn't. I still got it, baby. Yeah. But also to have your big like sex story come out like, oh, Jen Fessler had sex with West the same week that West's wiener pics came out and everybody was like, oh, that's the grossest wiener I've ever seen. It's like, can you can you let me have my moment? You know what I mean? Can we save the West's penis is gross for like another week when I'm not, you know, trying to celebrate my sexuality nationally? I mean, come on.

46:57Ben Mandelker: Seriously. there was also a story that I really enjoyed and I don't know what the follow up has been because I saw the video is that PK involved in a little bit of a hit and run a little fender bender he basically backed up his car into someone else's car blatantly hit it and then drove off

47:18Ronnie Karam: yeah and was a total asshole about it of course he's like well I thought it was like the Range Rover trying to tell me I thought it was the auto brakes on the Range Rover Please, I barely hit your car. What do you want from me? Sorry. Yeah, fix the car.

47:35Ben Mandelker: He said, this is his quote.

47:37Ronnie Karam: I genuinely thought the new Range Rover had automatically braked for me. It wasn't until I got home and noticed the world's tidiest mark on my car that I realized I had very gently nudged the neighbor's bumper. I went over, apologized, and offered to pay. Entirely my fault, although in fairness, trying to reverse while subconsciously searching for paparazzi hiding in bushes is probably not recommended by Land Rover. Okay, so in this, he's like, barely bumped you, you're a wuss, and I have paparazzi, so suck my dick. Yeah.

48:07Ben Mandelker: Also, it's not our fault, or not the paparazzi's fault, that you're looking around in bushes. Okay, so safety first. Safety first. You should be so lucky that a paparazzo wants to take a photo of you. Okay.

48:22Ronnie Karam: Yeah. And speaking of this classy couple, Dorit is in trouble because apparently she is showing up late for book signings. Huge shock there. Huge shock there. Dorit is not showing up to Barnes & Noble on time. Chronically late, Dorit Kemsley garnered mixed reviews for book tour signings being held on Dorit Standard Time.

48:50Ben Mandelker: Yeah, that's no good. That's no good. You have to show up on time for the people. You're not Madonna, Dorit. Okay? like people don't want to actually read your book they just want to say they just want to have it and then laugh that they got it so don't make them wait

49:04Ronnie Karam: I've got news Dorit is going to be in New York for a book signing at the same time we're going to be there for a cabaret should we ask her to do a number

49:14Ben Mandelker: yes we should and then she'll show up late and we'll be embarrassed she'll be in an

49:20Ronnie Karam: entirely different cabaret she'll be in someone else's show she'll just show

49:24Ben Mandelker: up at cats. Guys, I'm here to do my number. Yeah, that's crazy. I feel like Dorit is in no place to be showing up late to her book signings. I don't think people are really clamoring to read Unburdened, personally. I thought, listen, I really enjoyed Dorit this season. I really, really did. But you gotta

49:53Ronnie Karam: show up on time well Dorit's people reached out to us and said hey you know we're promoting Dorit's book would you guys like a copy of the book and I was like fuck yes we want a copy of the book here's our addresses and we never got the book and I was like this is so Dorit

50:09Ronnie Karam: yeah we would have been reading it right now we'd have been reading the chapter send it over

50:14Ben Mandelker: yeah we would have been we would have we would have been burdened with it but I'll be burdened with that yeah i know um so yeah that's that's unfortunate now another thing here i felt like there was some other really big like summer house story and i just cannot remember it whatsoever but i've seen i'm seeing this headline right here exclusive insider confirms if wendy acefo stopped filming potomac after giselle allegedly caught her in a lie and i am very intrigued about what this is all about so this article from reality blurb says a rumor began circulating on the internet that wendy had stopped filming because giselle caught her in some sort of lie um and allegedly wendy has taken a break after giselle caught her in a lie that's the quote which we probably could have gathered from the lead up to that quote which said the exact same thing um and then someone else said that this insider said they felt it was stupid for wendy to even film and this could hurt her case.

51:18Ben Mandelker: Dun, dun, dun, dun, dun. So the rumor is false. Well, this is a stupid article. Wendy, I guess, is still filming. But Monique Samuels has also come back and is filming again, according to this insider, which is the real takeaway here. That makes sense.

51:36Ronnie Karam: Well, that's good. Well, it's time to talk to you guys, the listeners. We're going to move over to chat. But before we ended, I just wanted to say RIP to Archie. Shannon's dog Archie has passed away and life on that show will not be the same. Or life in regular life. God bless you, Archie. We love you. You little ball addict.

51:56Ben Mandelker: Yeah, that was so sad to see, but you know, we love Archie. Yeah, love to Shannon and her family, because I know the daughters came in from abroad for it, and it's so sad. What a sweet dog.

52:09Ronnie Karam: Gone too soon. Yeah, little Archels. So, if you guys want to talk and come on camera. We will put the link up to come talk to us. For everybody who's listening to this on audio, thank you so much and we will talk to you on June 8th when we return for Crappy Hour. Bye.

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