


28 May 2026 · 1h 8m · 20 chapters

Southern Hospitality season finale (S4E13) centers on staff appreciation events at Republic, an art show at Zachary’s, and major workplace/relationship fallout—especially Michaels’ demotion and Joe’s job/business ambitions.
No named podcast guests appear. The episode is framed as Watch What Crappens discussing Southern Hospitality characters (Leva, Joe, Maddie, Leva’s staff, Lake, Zachary’s art show, etc.), with no external guest interviews.
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Hosts dive into the season finale of Southern Hospitality.
“They're getting their first proper reunion next week, which is very exciting.”
Leva plans a summer bash for the hospitality group, emphasizing camaraderie.
“This is just, you know, between that raspberry daiquiri spinning and this beautiful portrayal of a bathroom sign, I'm just like, wow, I am in the heart of the art world.”
The hosts discuss Lake's art show and the various artworks displayed.
“So I went and got a bunch of like oil, oil paints and canvases.”
Conversations about modeling and identity challenges faced by characters.
“So Leva goes up to Michael's and she's like, how are you doing?”
A discussion on the dynamics of parental support and expectations at an art show.
The cast discusses the nature of art and transitions into Joe's business ideas and aspirations.
“You know how the finest art is covered with a sheet?”
Explore Joe's unrealistic expectations for starting a wedding venue and the advice he's given.
“She's like, yeah, I was expecting market research and like, who's our competition?”
Dive into the dynamics of the group as they discuss personal struggles and relationships during pickleball.
“um, basically like everybody's just getting ready for the day.”
Follow the staff as they prepare for a big night, dealing with personal and professional hurdles.
Follow the staff as they prepare for a big night, dealing with personal and professional hurdles.
“Think breathable linen, soft organic cotton, well-made basics but without the luxury markup.”
The cast gets ready and discusses their recent experiences and relationships.
“Okay, I got up this morning and I did not vacuum my room.”
Tensions rise as Molly confronts Michaels about her firing.
“and Brad's taking pictures of Justin and Charlie.”
The group discusses the implications of the confrontation and the fallout.
“So Molly's like, I don't think you're...”
The cast reflects on the events and the state of their relationships.
“So then we go back to the rest of everybody else talking about it.”
Explore the chaotic dynamics and misunderstandings around Michael's demotion and the team's reactions.
“Like, I don't know why it's lying, though.”
Witness the intense confrontation between Joe and Grace, where feelings of love and betrayal are laid bare.
“times that they're just like okay okay michael screaming and yelling and throwing a big fit But you were wrong.”
Delve into the fallout from Joe's unexpected departure and the betrayal felt by his colleagues.
“Yeah, so now there's a showgirl, and they're throwing beads, and she's like, oh, my God, I'm going to pop my titties, my hairy titties.”
Explore the escalating tensions as Joe faces criticism from Leva and struggles with his position in the company.
“but like no one addressed it and it was like really funny and like so okay so I didn't tell Mia what Maddie said so like you need to go tell her Mia's like what?”
The cast engages in a heated discussion, revealing underlying tensions.
“Okay, well then go start a bar with other people and see what that's like.”
A review of the season's strengths and weaknesses, highlighting character dynamics.
“It felt like it was coming from a real place.”

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2:24Ronnie Karam: How are you?
2:26Ben Mandelker: I'm great, thanks. It's time to talk about the season finale of Southern Hospitality. Cabaret is next week. Get the streaming tickets. They are on sale until showtime. And then you can stream them until for the next week. So join us for that. Patreon.com slash Watch What Crappens. Watch us on video. Ad-free listening. Bonus episode. Newsletter. All the great stuff. Join us over there. Oh, and if you want tickets to the streaming tickets are at our website, watchacrappens.com or the link on our bio with our social media. Now let's talk about Southern Hospitality. Big season finale. They're getting their first proper reunion next week, which is very exciting.
3:09Ben Mandelker: And no, they had one last week.
3:11Ronnie Karam: Last time, didn't they? Or was that a watch? It's always been in the clubhouse.
3:13Ben Mandelker: It's always been. No way. Yeah, they're getting a real one. Yeah. so uh we open with the season finale with maddie and joe taking a walk and joe's like you ever feel like when we walk down here like do you ever feel like we just like don't belong like in this neighborhood you know you don't yeah well i don't know what neighborhood it is
3:34Ronnie Karam: but i'm just gonna make this a you literally don't there is a lady walking behind you filming you with her phone okay she's calling the police you don't do not belong in this neighborhood man he's like yeah i'm like well maybe we'll never be able to afford that house we'll never be able to afford that house oh my god he's like i know what is that oh my god it's ladybug it's
3:57Ben Mandelker: ladybug so yeah yeah it's just ladybug so hello fucking ladybug what oh my god joe he's a little ladybug lands on his shirt and he like goes from being like very panicked to being like wait oh wait um wait what what do i do do i blow on it do i she goes no joe make a wish oh my god he's like no don't blow on the ladybug oh god i wish i wish uh uh for that house the ladybug left you blew on it that's not how you get a wish out of a ladybug yeah you blew that wish god joe so now we go over to leva and she's planning
4:39Ronnie Karam: a party. They're going to do a big old summer bash for our hospitality group. So it's going to be like New Orleans style. So yeah, we need this courtyard to be like chef's kiss. Got it?
4:52Ben Mandelker: I'm so glad she's throwing a party for this group because I feel like they never get time together just to socialize and be together as one big group. So it's nice.
5:05Ronnie Karam: So he's like, oh yeah, live music. And she's saying, yeah, once a year we do a staff appreciation party we basically just want to pump up the staff because it's like a big family yeah it's a real big family you know like when you're stick your mom and you're like you're no longer my mother and you tell them that over email you know it's how families work it's how republic works yeah we're gonna throw down some beads and like boas it's gonna be like
5:30Ben Mandelker: a real elevated mardi gras i'm like actually i feel like it's a fake completely not elevated mardi gras that's fine though exact opposite of how you described it oh speaking of fake and not elevated let's go to zachary's zachary's where lake is having her art show because of course if you're going to be displaying the art that you spent four years of your parents money going to art school for why not set them up in a daiquiri bar with i mean it's basically different spinning spinning slushy slushy drink things going basically a gallery it's basically the loof
6:05Ronnie Karam: so um she's setting up and um somebody you know whatever the event is starting so let's just go to that so everybody comes like oh my god hi is that an art yours like oh no actually that's like the sign for the bathrooms oh yeah i guess it is really good representation of a woman though i
6:27Ben Mandelker: mean i can really see it wow yeah this is it's really beautiful i feel like i've been transported to the Gagosian galleries here. This is just, you know, between that raspberry daiquiri spinning and this beautiful portrayal of a bathroom sign, I'm just like, wow, I am in the heart of the art world.
6:46Ronnie Karam: So everybody checks out the pieces. I'm not sure which ones are lakes and which ones are other people's. Are they all lakes?
6:53Ben Mandelker: Yeah, because the thing is, I was actually wondering the same thing because some of them had a completely different art style. I thought, well, this maybe is not lakes. Maybe she is curating and not painting.
7:03Ronnie Karam: She said at one point she was curating, but then I think she's curating other artists and putting her art in there as well. But there was no, I mean, look, it doesn't always have to have like big caps above it. Like this is lakes. I guess that's not how it works, but I don't know. I want to know which ones are lakes. I know the eye was lakes because remember we started drawing the eye. That was junior high. I was like, I'm an artist now. So I went and got a bunch of like oil, oil paints and canvases. And I just kept painting eyes over and over again. My dad still has them. I'm going to hang them in the office behind me.
7:33Ronnie Karam: And I also made a clown.
7:35Ben Mandelker: That's pretty cool. I, my favorite piece of art that she did was that really like that pink, it was like a pink canvas. And then there was like beautiful, like it was the, there was like a, like an etching of like a glass. And then below it, it said margaritas five. Then I was like, Oh, wait a second. This is the menu. This is the menu. Sorry.
8:02Ronnie Karam: no there there was that one where it's like a person lying down and you're like oh my god are they dead are they resting like what is it you have to really stare at it for a while to see what's going on um and then there's like another image where there's a person putting their hands on their chest oh it's the choking it's the choking sign actually i love that there was
8:23Ben Mandelker: like sculptures uh i thought that was like really impressive like the that sort of like bulbous one that had, they like used some sort of like polymer or like some sort of thing to make it look almost like condensation and it was like a glass and it was like full of, oh I'm sorry, that was the Adisto, a Chipotle pineapple margarita of Casamigos, Chipotle pineapple, simple syrup and fresh lime juice available at Zachary's Zachary's
8:49Ronnie Karam: So it's like my dream job in the art world is to dive deeper into the gallery business Michaels is like this is fire so she's saying she put together this show and it's giving a taste of like curating side that I want to like pursue in the future
9:11Ben Mandelker: okay well I love how she says I want to dive deeper into the gallery like the gallery side of it I was like dive deeper you haven't you're working at Republic I think you have to start like you have to get in at least at the shallow end first like at least work at where Charlie's gallery is or something. So Leva goes up to Michael's and she's like, how are you doing? He's like, I'm good. I'm like so good. It's like, okay, good. I'm happy to hear that. And he tells us, I think when I first got that email, I was kind of like in shock. And you know that because you heard me going,
9:49I was like, what?
9:51Ben Mandelker: But then I have to remind myself self in the past like i had conversations not like what would a position look like with like more autonomy and we see that basically six weeks ago he's like i want to prioritize republic but i also want to prioritize being a model so like how does that work i'm wearing like tinted lenses
10:12Ronnie Karam: right now they're yellow so i really want you to take me seriously as a model because i am one just like okay yeah getting total model vibes from you so you know i can maybe discuss with management like see what we can shake out for you you know then you don't have to be a manager anymore he's like great okay well then what the hell she probably still should have called him and been like hey so remember having that discussion we figured it out we found someone to take over you don't have to be agm anymore now we're just going to move you to this other position but no it's leva so she's gonna call him and put the man into a nervous breakdown first
10:49Ben Mandelker: maybe this was the work like the final act of leah ceo who has disappeared and we we met her replacement today which i did not appreciate and i did not appreciate this tom what is his name
11:03Ronnie Karam: michael whatever fuck out of here not leah i'm never gonna take this man seriously say chow to the CEO.
11:10Ben Mandelker: Yeah. No, I want Leah CEO at all times. And if I don't get her, I'll be very upset. So I think that maybe on her way out, she's like, all right, you're going to take me in. Take it out. Someone else with me. Michaels, like the best CEO this bar has ever seen. You are being phased out of your job. See you later, alligator.
11:31Ronnie Karam: Need more rayon. Thank you. This has been Leah CEO. Yeah, like I need to focus on modeling now. It's bittersweet. And Lev is saying, yeah, he's like one of the best AGMs we've ever had. We created a new position because like he was valuable to us. So he's still helping in managerial positions. But now his title is vice president of Daiquiri machines of swirling colors in an art gallery, kind of, but not really. But we want to make Lake happy because she could be a future good Daiquiri server.
12:06Ben Mandelker: is that too long is that i don't know does it flow off the tongue does it i don't know he's like yeah it's like bittersweet you know but like the job is kind of like part of my identity so it's like definitely something that i'm gonna have to like make peace with yeah and so like guys i have a surprise so everyone strike a pose because we're gonna draw the guys okay so everyone guys you have to get into booty shorts and then like pose and booty shorts for everyone i was like
12:38Ronnie Karam: yes just like walking into the guggenheim itself this is the third or fourth uh bravo show this year that's had painting the male figure thing we have this we have beverly hills we had ladies of london there was another one i'm sure of it i think it's been four but i can't come up with so i'm gonna say three bravo can we just go back to vagina freezing like come on what are you doing
13:09Ben Mandelker: michael's michael's is like um i mean after my first shoot with like a small gay magazine like modeling comes with a price but like when it comes to my best friend i'll do it for free
13:23Ronnie Karam: okay after that so dot gay shoot they are rolling the offers are rolling in but okay i'll do the Zach's gig for free, I guess. So she gives him little booty shorts, and Joe's like, yeah, I'm not doing that. I'll draw them, but I'm not wearing these shorts because my back hurts, and I haven't been able to work out. Do you know what that's like? I haven't worked out in three weeks. You got to do this to me. It's like very triggering for me. I refuse to do it.
13:50Ben Mandelker: You know what? Magic Ladybug landed on this shirt, and now I never want to take it off because if I take it off, will I lose my wish? I don't know. It's scary. I'm just going to have a ladybug. come land on me today and ladybug flew away and as it was leaving i'm pretty sure i heard it call
14:05Ronnie Karam: me fat so i just really can't do this right now i can't do this i don't feel confident okay
14:15Ben Mandelker: throw it on my back so he's like i didn't sign up this are all my model shirtless at zack stacks right now like my body my choice like that's not really that's not the soul of that saying but sure um so then lake's dad calls up and he's like hey what's going on with your art show wait why aren't you at your art show why are you getting drunk dad this is my art show oh okay well damn if you told me there'd be 10 margarita machines going maybe i would have shown up you got to tell
14:44Ronnie Karam: people you got to sell the event now honey wow isn't it nice her dad called asshole think your dad's such a jerk he should be there he should be there okay to be like i'm here with my new kid sorry can't make it do your thing I didn't like it but she's happy and he's asking her
15:05Ben Mandelker: yeah she's happy because he's like oh you take some photos that I can put on my story she's like oh my god
15:11Ronnie Karam: my dad's gonna put me on his Instagram stories that like makes my life worth living it's like so sweet it means he does like me wow
15:21Ben Mandelker: so then her mom is not coming either
15:24Ronnie Karam: if my mom puts me on her Instagram stories I've done something wrong okay it's never it is like the look at what this fucker did this time and she says her mom's not coming either because she has a work gig and i said audibly to my because my dog looked at me so i know it was my outside voice i said the mom's gonna come because the mom you know is a supportive good mother you know she's gonna show up the mom's not gonna be like i'm not coming to your art gig honey i have a work thing i was like i don't believe it she's gonna show up i believe in this
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19:04Ben Mandelker: So now the guys are going to come out in their booty shorts and Lake is like, I'm trying to bring culture. This is art right here. The body. Get naked. Everyone's just doing little doodles. And Emmy shows up. And Emmy's like, oh my god.
19:21Ronnie Karam: They're like, oh my god, this is art. It's the body. Age. Age and call me.
19:27Ben Mandelker: Yeah. No, it's also art of the ruins. So we'll see in a few years.
19:32Ronnie Karam: Exactly. You know how the finest art is covered with a sheet? Can we go back to that art? That would be great. That's the kind of art I'm giving you. Okay, cover it.
19:43Ben Mandelker: So now like a bunch of them are sitting in a booth and Joe's like, hey guys, gather around, gather around. It's sort of like the staging of like the beginning of Greece or something, or just like any school play. He's like, guys, gather around. Okay, listen, I found out that Michael's apparently he's no longer a GM. Like, well, yeah, he hasn't driven a GM car in years, right? I mean, I think he's moved on to Toyota's. No, no. Assistant general manager. Oh.
20:13Ronnie Karam: guys, Michael's is no longer Agam. What? Agam.
20:18Ben Mandelker: What? America's got mallets. No, no, no. It stands for assistant general manager. So yeah, he's not going to be manager anymore. Guys, don't you feel like we should maybe break out into a big musical number? No, no, no, he's not. No, no, no. Yeah. Well, guess what guys? I have some bad news. He got an email during work. It was so scary. I had to hide in my bathroom.
20:42Ronnie Karam: oh my god what did the email say um and then he's like oh i mean it was just you know like letting him know that like i mean even the longer aging i was like i mean i don't know it was terrifying it was i will tell you it was terrifying i've never been close to that drain in my entire life i was near the drain shivering cold i was freezing cold scared out of my mind you know we were when he got the email i mean could you imagine being at work when he got that so now um michaels comes over and mia's like oh just found out it's like what that you got demoted oh ouch what happened he's like um i i i didn't get demoted i mean it wasn't really a demotion it was um like uh it wasn't that like michaels what is it i'm just i'm not like agm anymore
21:31Ben Mandelker: It's like, can you tell us what that means? Assistant general manager. No, I feel like that's not what it means. Yeah, it does. Like, guys, don't you have like anything better to do than to talk about me? Like, there's like so much beautiful art in this room. Like, talk about the art. Don't talk about me. I mean, I know I'm a masterpiece. By the way, they literally have nothing better to do than talk about you. Like, there's nothing. They have literally nothing else to do except to watch the machine spin and talk about you.
21:59Ronnie Karam: Yeah, we've seen the art. It's not worth talking about. So TJ's like, well, what's your official title? VIP Client Engagement and Sales. Brad's like, oh, yeah, I think they're just making up titles at this point because that's not real. Which is true. They did just make up this title. And so Joe's like, yeah, I think that means you got to mode it. So, yeah.
22:21Ben Mandelker: It's called like Model Emeritus or something like that. That's your title.
22:27Ronnie Karam: Mia's like, yeah, you were the manager. Now you're not the manager. that's my corporate expertise is telling me you got demoted so sorry
22:37Ben Mandelker: and so then Maddie's like oh my god TJ you guys can sleep together now it's no longer a conflict of interest he's not in a position of power oh yeah oh my god my ladybug wish came true I wish that TJ and Michaels could have sex finally wow ladybug thank you
22:53Ronnie Karam: so like guys this was such a good turnout I'm so glad everybody's talking and I'm glad we had like a male model experience. Oh my God, wait, there's my mom.
23:05Ben Mandelker: Jerry walks in and she's like, oh, hi, wait, this is where your art show is? What, we spent our money on this? What is happening, Lake? You can't over here. I'm moving to a different state.
23:22Ronnie Karam: So she's being supportive and stuff and like she's always been supportive of my career and they take pictures together. And now it's a new day at Republic. And Joe is having another meeting with Lava. Oh, God, here we go. So she's like, okay, Joe, I'm really tired.
23:39Ben Mandelker: Another episode of Guppy Tank.
23:41Ronnie Karam: God, Guppy Tank. Shark Tank. Yeah. So Lava's like, okay, Joe, I'm a little tired today, okay? He's like, oh, yeah, me too. Definitely feeling post-weekend. There's so much partying. say woof post weekend blues my back yeah my back and like all that stress from the ladybug you know
24:02Ben Mandelker: and she's like okay yeah i know it's been a grind he's like yeah you know and now i'm getting older she's like oh joe i love how you talk like you're turning 50 or something you're still 30 okay now i'm now i'm now that i'm getting older like you're just like one year of 30 he's like yeah but like i'm worried about playing pickleball later because like my lower back is killing me like Matt is going to like destroy me. But like, anyway, thanks for meeting me. The fact that he's talked about his lower back so much this season, but it's like not a storyline. It's just something he complains about.
24:30Ronnie Karam: I mean, this is exactly what you do when you want to get a job. You talk about like how much you partied over the weekend, then how you're going to spend the day playing pickleball on a work day. And then, then how your back is still hurting and always hurts. No one is going to hire that Joe. Come on, buddy. so she's like okay joe just like get on with it and he's like okay well i think like everyone's like joe yes so many ideas your name is joey bottles like that's such a cool name and so like now i'm like trying to put stuff on paper you know and like i'm making all these business plans and i think there's a lot of synergy for us to you know like both come out happy for this and you know what synergy because that's the word and so synergy means putting stuff on paper i ran out of paper though so but it's up here don't worry it's all up joe joe can we just like walk
25:19Ben Mandelker: this back who are the people that say you always have so many ideas uh well maddie the ladybug um the person uh um the car wash when i was like should i put my car in uh and should i put my car in park or should it be a neutral and they said put it in neutral i'll put a neutral and he goes that's a good idea i was like thanks they just all say i have such good ideas so like it's a lot
25:43Ronnie Karam: of people really if you think about it oh joe so she's like okay joe and it's like yeah you know like so many people want to work with me it's like insane joe nobody wants to work who are all these people who want to work with you that you're turning down to be a doorman get out of here that's not true joe stop saying it he's like well last night now oh sorry go ahead i was just gonna say that last night i balanced a stapler on top of um a shoe box on top of a basketball on top of a
26:13Ben Mandelker: shoe that was originally in the shoe box and i put it all on a pad so i just want to show that i can put things on paper so i think i'm like ready yeah like my initial meeting i didn't have a plan but
26:24Ronnie Karam: like now i have a concept okay so like you know i want to be humble but also hungry like i want to be humbry humblery hunk okay so i'm not the the concept isn't mixing words together but like i have confidence now because you know i can do big things like throw live events because remember i had that emo night that half the people came to for free but you know what i mean like it was really good it was huge everyone's like jojo more emo like i see people on the street like i saw a lady in the street crying the other day and i was like emo i did that i did that so yeah i want to partner with you guys you know because like i'm in love with hospitality i'm in love with live music more than anything like i know this sounds cheesy at all but i love like weddings i love like weddings you know you know it's great bracelets love bracelets it's just so so good i love love
27:11Ben Mandelker: and like i just have like these ideas i was thinking about weddings and i was like what about like a wedding it was just like an idea of like the sort of event that we could like that could happen i had this other event i was like i was thinking okay here's a good idea for a party uh people come in and they like drink oh i don't know just like a lot of ideas that people are
27:28Ronnie Karam: asking me about it so i was like so like i've never thought like you know how like if you look at a lake it's like just like a hole in the ground with water so i was thinking like what if we had a place where we dug a hole in the ground and put water in it that's a swimming pool joe exactly yeah ideas so what are you exactly pitching me like you want to pitch
27:48Ben Mandelker: an idea of a future business or what it's like yeah i had this like so like okay like okay official charleston's becoming the fastest growing wedding destination in the united states but like i like to think like combine like a verse like a versatile venue where it's like not just live shows but like we could have a wedding and like wedding pursuit like yeah joe it's called a
28:11Ronnie Karam: venue he's like that's what venues do joe okay wait but you could also like um have a dance
28:19Ben Mandelker: and like a prom uh you could have like a fraternity formal there like i'm just like thinking out of the box uh we could also store boxes in there though by the way just thinking about that
28:28Ronnie Karam: and she's like he doesn't know anything about weddings she's like well there could be like a rooftop like it could be very upscale like these wedding after parties there's like so much money in that you know i see a hole in the market like i see that demand like how many weddings are on roofs not enough that's for sure hole in the market so like you know i'm excited for my career and like making money with you guys you know and she goes okay so is there something you want to show me like on your computer he's like um well this is like uh the first time i've ever done it she's like yeah i'm too blind for this font like what i just okay i like this is a wedding venue
29:04Ben Mandelker: for ants can you what is this actually yeah i was thinking like you know ants they've got these colonies but they don't have any place to dance so like we could have a venue and we could call it pants that way you could say there's ants in my pants you see what i'm saying here joe can you just show me something okay like the the venue it'll primarily just like showcase live music and rock but there there could be djs you know what i mean it's like yeah yeah a venue like this
29:31Ronnie Karam: a big empty space that we're in right now and she's she's like okay well here's the thing like i know your head is like oh i want to be at the top of the mountain but yeah i'm gonna need more from you joe like i need like breakdowns of numbers and like i need to see a cost and then then it'll feel like you did some work. He's like, oh, oh. She's like, yeah, I was expecting market research and like, who's our competition? Just the basics, you know? I mean, this feels juvenile.
29:58Ben Mandelker: Yeah, he watched Vanderpump Rules and thought that was like a real business that like, you know, Lisa Vanderpump gave Tom and Tom like a 95 % share. It's like, no, they just were the faces of it. This is still Lisa's business. And I think Joe thinks that he's going to get the same thing, but like he has to do like, but, but love is like, no, I'm not gonna just, you're not famous enough to just like put your face on it. And then everyone's going to come flocking to it. It's going to be a real business for me. So you have to give me some numbers. So she's just like, you know, I was expecting a little bit of like market research and investment and you know, things like that.
30:32Ben Mandelker: This is all just so juvenile. And she goes, you know, Elise is really fucking expensive on King street to take that risk as massive. Yeah. But no, but I would own the space because that's fine. She was like, yeah, no, you wouldn't own it. Nobody really owns anything unless you've got$10 million. You're going to have to get investors and you're going to have to own a percent of it. And then your investors are just going to be your new boss. Nevermind the fact that you're going to need a new CEO. Did somebody say CEO?
31:06Ben Mandelker: Looking for what?
31:09Ronnie Karam: Lee's CEO. Back in action. so she's like uh yeah like if i'm an investor joe like i'm gonna be your boss again so there's you know like you need to build your own brand without investors like do a dj night book a wedding after parties you know book them on all our spaces go to lamar's the back of bourbon and bubbles like we have so many spaces like why work for someone else you can work for yourself and use our venue start small like when tj brought me a hot dog plan and you know he slowly did xyz and now he's slowly getting somewhere so like pick a night once a month you know start booking things at the venues like maybe it's going to be emo maybe it's going to be girls night and he's looking like fuck this fuck her fuck like he's going to cry she's actually giving him the best advice and opportunity if you book all of this stuff you'll still be making the money as the person who booked it and get a percentage of whatever you booked joe and you won't be paying rent you won't be paying lease you won't be being bossed around by people you won't have this massive but he's too like thick-headed to eat titled and it's too entitled he's like no i want you to buy me a restaurant that i have zero ideas for except that it's going to have a rooftop and have live music and maybe a dj and have weddings sometimes joe that's every restaurant joe it's literally every
32:29Ben Mandelker: restaurant and he just i think he thinks like i'm famous people like me like this will just work and And it's like, it's not, it's, it's just not how it goes, Joe. And I love that Leva was just like, I love that Leva was not giving some sort of like bullshit. Like, no, yeah, we'll start a company. She's like, no, no, I, I don't actually play with my businesses in this way. Like I'll, I'll give a fake title to Michaels, but I'm not actually going to like, have you just like run one of my businesses. You're totally unreliable.
32:59Ronnie Karam: Yeah. And, but she's giving him the opportunity to, to do something to make money improve himself. He's just like, he refuses to do that. He has no interest in like proving himself. It's so weird. He's just like, but I already did. Because I've been like a, you know, like I've been working here for like years. So what, Joe? You're a doorman. I mean, you're a doorman called a VIP host, whatever. So you sell some tables, but you're ultimately like a doorman selling tables, Joe. He's like, but I've been so, but I've been like so loyal. Okay, well, what's the alternative to being loyal to your job?
33:31Do we all get like, what does that mean?
33:33Ronnie Karam: like you would cheat on your job doing something else so you would be a doorman somewhere else and they would get upset what does that even mean you were loyal you showed up to work and you got paid
33:42Ben Mandelker: for it joe yeah you have to like and and you he even says later in the episode like how he's been demoted because he did in the first season he like made a real big pitch so that way he could become i think assistant general manager and then he got pushed down again it's like why would you think after being demoted and after like all the things that leva has said to you earlier this season why would you think that like you'd be entitled to this and also like listen to her advice she's giving you a path forward and like all you have to do is do the path if you want to work with her she's giving you a path she said this is what i need from you and then we can we can re-establish but he just assumes that he that it's that it's something that he can get it's just yeah this guy
34:23Ronnie Karam: oh my gosh so he's like but yeah like i i'm trying to pitch you a business concept i want to put my entire life into like not just sort of some sort of theme not at republic joe you have to have a resume of doing something so do something to build a resume so she's like yeah start doing this small and like we'll circle back in a year and he's like oh my god reality's starting to hit to my dream of partnering with people i'm loyal to is like getting dimmer and dimmer what she's telling me is i don't want to i don't want you to leave the front door no she's telling you do something to prove that you're more than opening a door and saying hello to people on King street.
34:59Don't start a step Q start with step a.
35:04Ben Mandelker: Okay. Just start there.
35:06Ronnie Karam: Dummy. So now we go to Brad's and, um, basically like everybody's just getting ready for the day. Right. And he puts nipple covers on the dog, on the dog's eyes. He's like, huh. And then we go in front of, um, a coffee place and Justin's FaceTiming Charlie and, um, flirting with her and stuff. They're all getting ready. Cause it's just going to be a big party guys. I don't know if you heard about it. Yeah.
35:28Ben Mandelker: Big dance. Big dance for the gang, guys. And he's like, I can't wait to see you. She's like, I can't wait to see you. Oh, my God. Sally's banging at my door. Please don't tell her we ever talked. And then we were at Pickleball and Maddie and Joe. And Maddie's like, Joe, I'm stretching to beat your ass. L-O-fucking-L. And Joe's like, yeah, I feel like last time we were here was for your 10-year sobriety thing. Remember? She's like, yeah, of course. it's like yeah i'm just like worried about like my back though because like i also don't want you to like beat me too bad oh god where's that ladybug i wish she couldn't beat me too bad ladybug please come back it's an emergency i'm still like a little shocked from that meeting and like people are telling me to like take these leaps of faith and like not be afraid of failure and i feel like every time i do that i fucking fail yeah well that's the point is that like don't be afraid like you do it again like fail allow yourself to fail it's okay but you're not even doing anything
36:26Ronnie Karam: you're not doing anything you haven't done anything to even fail at you sitting down at your computer and like rubbing your temple and then flicking around a pencil eraser is not doing something so you can say look i came up with an idea weddings that's not doing anything joe come on oh my god this guy so um he's like i'm just worried am i like good enough no because you don't do anything so um his she's completely he's complaining about his back and man he's like oh my god shut up about your stupid back you wuss we're playing pickleball so they play and then after that um he's like yeah well he tries to do a scene while he's doing the pickleball she's like joe we can't talk and play pickleball god so they stop to do the scene and he's like okay well love like totally like the the meeting went like shit like i gave her my big business plan and she was like oh concerts wedding venue cool yeah that sounds like it could work one day like not right
37:23Ben Mandelker: now absolutely not she didn't say that the concepts don't work it's that you spearheading them won't work right now man's like what it's like yeah i just feel like they don't look at me as like someone that they want to get into business with i mean so what i'm a guy with lower back pain playing pickleball and doing bad at it i just feel like she made me feel like it was like intangible it's pretty cool that I said intangible like she's like this is like too big for you well I feel like you've been like working her ass off all summer all summer how about like for five years minus four years god I can't believe that they would say this my heart breaks for you Joe so she's like
38:05Ronnie Karam: yeah I've seen you have conversations with Lamar about having a business with them one day and he's like yeah yeah I thought so too she's like I feel so bad Joe so she cries for him he's like I'm sick of people not taking me seriously i'm not like not feeling fulfilled i'm like i'm sick of staying at the same spot like i'm not doing it anymore i'm not doing it anymore i'm sick of people not
38:25Ben Mandelker: taking me seriously oh my god oh my god an alien species just landed on my shirt oh that's another ladybug oh my god that's crazy anyway people don't take me seriously
38:37Ben Mandelker: says the guy who started the episode freaking out about a ladybug so uh now it's the night time night shift at republic and maddie is walking with a nice bucket and she's complimenting girls and everything and uh michael's is uh he's adjusting the stanchions outside and he has you know he doesn't seem very happy right now he's back to being just a regular guy in a suit out at the front door yeah he's like there's an extra stanchion out there then
39:06Ronnie Karam: so take that one at the end and they're like uh that then then it'll be too long he's like then we have an extra one take it inside oh my god i can't believe i'm doing this fuck my life like
39:16Ben Mandelker: it's like um he may not have the agm title but he's the agm in my heart anyway and also if i don't move the stanchion he's gonna ice me out for another three days so um yeah for the past two years i've had all these responsibilities so just like to have them taken away it just feels like a little strange like i mean it's not it's nothing i can't do it's fine yeah so joe's like
39:43Ronnie Karam: just like yeah i'm worried about his ego yeah worry about your own but also you're not wrong
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42:44Ben Mandelker: yeah and uh we see it's uh bella bella and emmy are getting ready god i'm so glad to know what Bella's up to and uh there Maddie says she's going to be she says she's gonna be her look is gonna give Cher I'm like was it do we know what Cher is I don't know Cher rides like what
43:06Ronnie Karam: are you talking about so now we go to yeah ride shares so we go to Mia Molly and TJ and uh they're talking about uh tj having a date and tj's like oh my god he's really cute and it was like kind of a blind date situation and he was gonna stay at joe's but he ended up sleeping at my house last
43:25Ben Mandelker: night so we were not he's like were you naughty or nice a little naughty were you a little naughty yeah i i did i did just say naughty he's like wait a second were you naughty i mean i said naughty. How many times do I have to say it? Okay, I got up this morning and I did not vacuum my room. I was very, very naughty.
43:48Ronnie Karam: He just blew him. So you're like, oh my god, yay! So TJ is like, yeah, like when we were leaving the last bar, he was like, should I go get my stuff? And I was like, yeah. And then like the date continued at my apartment and like he watched me vacuum and started jerking off and that's all I needed. We're going to get married. So TJ is like, then he shows a picture where he's sleeping, the guy is sleeping next to him Kind of turned away and TJ's taking a picture. I got him. Don't do that. Yeah. That's kind of creepy, buddy.
44:23Ben Mandelker: Guys, look at his. Look at his hands when he gets here. Is that correlated to his penis? You wouldn't know. But yeah.
44:31Ronnie Karam: So he's like, God, Molly, just catching all sorts of straight. She's like, God. Yeah, it's girthy. So then she's like, speaking of girthy, here he is. here he is
44:43Ben Mandelker: here comes Joe so Joe is here with his friend and they're like wow Matt he's so sexy his hands are so big look at Matt wow Joe's like yeah they're both short kings but like Matt he seems like he's a top because I feel like Matt he's like good that like Matt has like an inch or two on him so yeah it's pretty cool for them
45:03Ronnie Karam: so now they're talking about Michaels and Molly's like he backstabbed me and he can take accountability for it he completely lied to my face
45:11Ben Mandelker: yeah well now he's not in charge of anyone so like maybe that will take a little like chip off his shoulder yes i'm sure nothing takes a chip off of someone's shoulder like getting demoted
45:21Ronnie Karam: yeah like hurting their pride so molly's like well he should never be in charge of anyone everyone's just awkward silent you know because molly here goes molly she's gonna try it again so tj is like oh my god you weren't here for cucumber night and just like oh actually i was Like I was all set on coming back here, but I feel like there's been a long enough where I like, I don't have to bring like the sage in here after that. Cucumber night was rough. Oh yeah. When, you know, I was accused of getting pegged.
45:53Ben Mandelker: So Molly's like, yeah, um, that was a fun night. So, uh, Matt's like, whoa, I have no context at anything. You guys are saying to Kiyotl, welcome to Charles the man. I'm glad you're here, dude. Oh my God. Wait, there's a knock at the door. Who could it be? Oh my God. It's Chris Lilley. and she's like, I'm back. She's all happy. She's determined to be happy this episode. She's like, I've had a bunch of sad episodes. I'm going to be happy for the season finale.
46:21Ronnie Karam: Yeah. So then we go to the party and Brad's taking pictures of Justin and Charlie. Everybody's saying hi. They're asking TJ, what do they think about TJ's date? And Michael's is like, um, whatever. Good for them. He sees them and he's just like, excuse me.
46:38Ben Mandelker: yeah it's not happy um and then uh michaels is telling joe to fix his pants he's like yeah but there are capris but they're like a little tight on me so like i gained a little weight i've been i've heard about my lower back i haven't been able to work out in three weeks so it's like been pretty rough it's been really rough for me guys so he's sitting with michaels and he's like
46:58Ronnie Karam: dude i'm just like tipping you off what's going on like i know you cared about molly but she's fucking pissed and she thinks you got her fired. And he's like, oh, okay, that's fine. Then I'll put her aside and have a conversation with her. I mean, I'm sorry, I'm not going to let that be a shitter on my night.
47:15Ben Mandelker: That Joe's so messy. He hasn't been as messy this season as he has been in the past. I think he's been sort of just focused on Maddie and typing things on his computer. But he sort of was like, okay, well, I want to show Leva that I'm worthwhile, so let me get back to being messy, doing what I do best. So then Brad is like talking to Julia and he's like feeding her shrimp and everything. He's like, only you can make eating shrimp look sexy. And Michaels pulls Molly. He's like, can I talk to you? Um, yeah. So like, um, he told me you were livid because you thought that I got you fired. She's like, yeah.
47:53Ben Mandelker: Well, which is crazy. Cause like for me, it's like very heart wrenching. Huh? Well, Michaels cut the shit. No, no, I'm being so for real right now.
48:04Ronnie Karam: So I cut the shit and we brought it up. Okay. You want me to solve a mystery? Nancy Grace is here. I will call Emmy right over here right this second. Don't you fuck with me, mister. He's like, okay, well, then bring her over. And she's like, in Punta Cana, she told me. Okay. And I'm going to bring her over here right now. Get over here. And he's like, can you come here? No, not you, Joe. Not you. I don't want an audience. Okay. All right. Emmy, Emmy, you. And so Molly's like, okay, well, we were talking in Punta Cana. do you remember emmy she's like um yeah i yeah totally and i i was like um yeah michaels was like wasn't completely uninvolved in firing you and michaels like got a call that you were being like let go and like he wanted to involvement with it but then you responded saying like oh he didn't defend me and i was like well no he didn't defend me so i was like basically how the story went right remember like where i didn't really do anything that was that was basically i remember it you fucking liar emmy you fucking liar emmy oh my god she is so funny she set molly
49:01Ben Mandelker: up so badly she went and told molly this one thing and then totally like molly goes out there after everything is fine with molly and michaels everything is perfectly fine she sets molly up and then molly is all pissed at michaels there's a confrontation and then he's like well no i don't know what you're talking about i was like you are so snaky but it worked emmy got off the hook for
49:24Ronnie Karam: this season finale because it should have been about coming for everybody coming for emmy one
49:27Ben Mandelker: last time and she got out i know i was i was surprised so then tj comes over he slinks over and mike's like i don't need an audience please no please stay away please the the artist is at work no please stay away girl you're on tv first of all you don't want them over there because you know everybody's going to call you out because you're lying yeah and i mean like molly i i i i said that he was involved and like but i didn't see like that he ran it or like it was like it was doing i didn't say that i just told you the truth of like the situation he said he was notified of you being let go and like i don't want to be part of this because like i'm not in charge of this but like it's just that's that's the truth and michael's like um yeah you know at the end of the day why would i even be involved in your firing it's like michael's your assistant general manager
50:12Ronnie Karam: you would definitely be part of that conversation yeah i'm always like um one you're lying and two you get nothing for nothing okay and i'm not shocked that emmy doesn't have my back i'm not expecting her to have my back but you can't backpedal when i'm looking at you in your fucking face i mean did you forget we're on camera idiot so then we see a flashback and emmy's like um yeah michaels was asked his opinion on if you should be fired and it was a yes yeah
50:38Ben Mandelker: It's blatantly that Michaels had an active role in it. So Molly's like, I don't think you're...
50:44Ronnie Karam: But first of all, look, Michaels is pretty clearly lying here. But also, Michaels has the total right to fire Molly, I think. Molly was fired for valid reasons. And she has not... She keeps saying it was bullshit. But then why isn't she going to Leva and having this fight? Go ahead. Fight with Leva. Let's see how she handles it. Because you were fired because you weren't showing up to work, Molly.
51:06Ben Mandelker: Yeah, it's an ongoing issue with this cast, apparently. So Michael's like, I have an email that literally asked me to write you up where I defend you. And Molly's like, well, why would you not tell me? And he's like, well, I mean, he's written me up before. I mean, it's like, it's a pretty normal thing. Like, I mean, I'm an ally. Look, I proved myself, guys. I'm an ally. And so Molly's like, I've been written up once and I got fired for bullshit. You didn't have my back. And you know I'm a hard worker. And that's what I have a problem with.
51:33Ronnie Karam: So Michael's like, go over there, everybody. I don't want an audience, okay? Because everybody's just, they're so messy. They're just all, TJ's just like, hi, okay, I guess I can't come over. And then Mia comes over. They're all circling like sharks.
51:48Ben Mandelker: Nothing says I don't want an audience. Like, everyone get away. I don't want an audience. I mean, I don't think that he actually did want an audience, but like, that's not how you're going to get people to go away. It's because like, the louder you are, the more people are like, what? Wait, what's happening over there?
52:01Ronnie Karam: And Mia doesn't even care. She's like, yeah, I'm not leaving. so is she lying that you had a say in this or not he's like listen if it were up to me and i was gm you wouldn't even have worked there to begin with because you're a shitty employee and then it's there he goes michael pulling out his greatest hits yelling at a woman i'm really glad you got to end the season yelling at a woman michaels what the fuck is wrong with this guy enough my god
52:24Ben Mandelker: he's like you're a shitty employee it sucks because you start rooting for fucking michaels
52:28Ronnie Karam: and then he does this again. Bro.
52:32Ben Mandelker: Yeah. And he's saying, you were a shitty employee, you were a shitty fucking employee and you were a horrible at your fucking job. I'm like, so you, did you defend her or did you not defend her? Because that doesn't sound like, doesn't sound like.
52:46Ronnie Karam: So you're basically admitting that you didn't offend her and she deserved to get fired. So just say that in the first place. Stop screaming at women. Talk to one man. Go talk to Bradley this way, please.
52:59Ben Mandelker: yeah yeah seriously so molly is like uh well you have seen me in a place of work don't ever speak to me like that and michael's like no fucking horrible but i was like mom's like well what and why did you get demoted because i did not get demoted i have a fucking modeling career i don't i don't give a flying fuck get the fuck out of my face your friendship cost me nothing but i have a modeling career is hilarious like it's just such a funny thing to yell out in a group of people You don't.
53:26Ronnie Karam: You have the seeds of something, but stop. And then he's screaming at her, and she's screaming right back at him. They're standing up in each other's face, and Leva's like, whoa, because the whole party's watching them now. And Leva's like, whoa, what the hell? And so Bradley's like, chill. And he's like, I don't care. I don't care. I don't care. Like, I don't fucking give a flying fuck, okay? Like, it's a conversation between Molly and I. No fucking, now it's heated now, because if you were in my position, you'd be fucking pissed too, Brad.
53:53Ben Mandelker: and I was like, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. And Mia's like, well, it's your manager. It's your manager. Look out, Michaels, your manager's here. Love is like, are you okay? She's like, I'm so fucking pissed. Like, I'm so, I'm going to go fucking home. Fuck all of you. I'm going home. So he storms off and Michael, I'm going home. And Love is like, what is going on here? What's happening?
54:18Ronnie Karam: Take my fucking mic off.
54:21Ben Mandelker: I have never seen Michaels with this type of energy. I mean, honestly, I've just never really seen him with energy. He's just so blase all the time. I don't think it's acceptable and I don't think it's appropriate. And I certainly don't want to see it in my business.
54:35Ronnie Karam: So now some of them are chasing him down the street and Brad is updating Leva on what happened. And he's like, yeah, he lied and said he had nothing to do with Molly's firing. And like, he didn't know about it. And Leva's like, of course he knew about it. He's the AGM.
54:52Ben Mandelker: hello or was the atm how awkward tj's like yeah but he's saying he doesn't uh so that lake is now going after michael's uh and uh i hope he remembers this by the way the next time he just like ices her out cruelly so she goes after him to console him and uh she's saying that he went to the corner store so then uh joe's like in the corner store with michael's and like the bodega talking into him and we see it through the window and michael's like dude molly and i had a conversation with and with where we were just like hey if i have a problem with you like we're gonna hash this shit out and just like yeah but like why would molly come at you this hard if emmy didn't say that to her like that's what pissed her off think about it think about yeah just like hello
55:36Ronnie Karam: pay attention this is all this is all set up by emmy to get out of trouble hello dum-dums and i'm Joe saying this, okay? I just pitched a DJ wedding venue. Come on. So then we go back to the rest of everybody else talking about it. And Mia's like, wait, I mean, I'm confused. Did you lie to Molly in Putacana? What's going on? And she's like, no. What? What would that do me? Why would I do that?
56:03Ben Mandelker: So who was lying then? You were Michaels. Michaels.
56:06Ronnie Karam: Michaels is. Like, I don't know why it's lying, though. I mean, he's AGM. Like, of course, he's going to get notified when someone's like, oh, I mean, He was notified of the firing, so if I were him in a lie battle, I don't know. Why would I lie?
56:18Ben Mandelker: Molly tells us,
56:29Ben Mandelker: So now Joe is like, God, come on, look. You're still a leader in the company? We gotta get back, okay? You gotta get back to our fake New Orleans party in the courtyard. Come on, bro.
56:40Ronnie Karam: michaels her saying i was demoted is like so fucking crazy you were demoted you were no no
56:47Ben Mandelker: you're not demoted you're not demoted you were actually promoted to a lower position so it was like you went up and it's like you know when you go up a hill you go down a hill and it's not like when you come down the hill you're like actually lower than where you were before but you still were going forward right that's what's happening with you um so justin's like oh good not a good
57:05Ronnie Karam: look and brad's like yeah he's just running away like what the hell so um michaels comes back and he's like um i just want you to know i wasn't yelling at you and brad's like yeah you were it's okay i'm sorry so tj's like i sent you a text he's i know i know it's all your text i need to go i need to go get coconut water hey guys i'm back my blower back though really hurts yeah it's like
57:29Ben Mandelker: joe joe did you find michaels maddie a little slow on the uptake there yeah michaels is already back with Joe.
57:37Ronnie Karam: So TJ's like, you can't just run away. Justin goes, yeah, you got to stand on business. And he's like, yeah, okay, like 100, but like whatever. So Mia comes over and she's like, what's the issue? Like, why would you just not tell her that like, I'm sorry for like knowing that you were going to get fired? Like, why is this hard?
57:51Ben Mandelker: It's like, I did not know. It's like, well, then why is Emmy lying then? And Brad's like, wait, why is she lying? I don't fucking no dude wait is just is that me lying no but but you just said she was not lying i mean she was throwing me under the bus because she was mad so was she lying dj's like wait threw you under the bus so that means you admit to the situation then right what do you mean well like you're saying she threw you under the bus so then you're admitting that to the situation because the bus was
58:22Ronnie Karam: you knowing that she was gonna get you understand what the bus is does anybody understand what the
58:26Ben Mandelker: buses i take ubers i take ride shares oh my god you get my look so then mia is like is that like they're like wait what michael says can you guys just please stay out of it okay
58:40Ronnie Karam: it's like i need a drink he's like i need a drink and he goes no you don't you can't forget that you just like screamed at everybody and ran away jesus and he's like um but i love you guys she goes no that's not how that works and walks off yeah they just sort of are like it's it's it's
58:56Ben Mandelker: really bad when the cast of southern hospitality can like unravel your little mystery your little you'll you'll lie there it's like it's like the little gum shoes there so he's done this so many
59:07Ronnie Karam: times that they're just like okay okay michael screaming and yelling and throwing a big fit But you were wrong. Just say you're wrong.
59:18Ben Mandelker: So Mia is like, okay, you guys, it's a work event. And I crashed this. For you guys, it's a work event. For me, I just crashed it. I'm just here to drink and eat beignets. So now they're eating beignets. And someone, Justin called the beignet a donut, which is crazy. And Charlie shows up. And she's like, hi, hi, hi, hi. We have to pause, pause, pause, pause, pause. Grace is like, Joe, Joe, I want to pull you aside and chit chat. Okay. And Joe's like, wait, you want to talk? Okay, let's talk. So now Joe and Grace Lilly are going to have their confrontation.
59:54Ronnie Karam: So first of all, how you doing? He's like, um, listen, I just want you to know, like, I don't hate you. Like, that's a problem. I love you. And like, for what you said about me and like how you treated me, like my girlfriend, that's unacceptable. I mean, like taking it off the butt, that's not cool. She's like, oh yeah, I know it's wrong of me. You know, it's just like it's been real hard for me to ask for help. Probably like it's hard for you to ask for help when you need help getting that dildo up your ass. You know, because that can be hard sometimes. It's behind you. Why did God put our butts behind us?
1:00:26Ronnie Karam: How are we supposed to do anything with them? You know what I mean? The butt should be where the belly button is so we can take care of it easier. That's what I say. If I met God, I'd tell him, why don't you replace belly buttons with butts?
1:00:40Ben Mandelker: hey hey it's okay don't feel bad you can be vulnerable with me i'll do anything for you i'll even take a dildo up the ass as long as you're honest and looking to like get better you know because that's all we're looking for we fucking love you that's all we want also do you want to invest in like a live music venue it costs 10 million dollars it's on king street do you think you want to do that could we have weddings there yeah exactly i'm in i'm in that's such a good idea
1:01:08Ronnie Karam: But, you know, I just don't want you to think there was a day that's gone by since that night that I haven't thought about you with a dildo in your ass and just felt terrible about it. It just felt terrible.
1:01:18Ben Mandelker: I hope that's true. I hope that's true.
1:01:21Ronnie Karam: It is. It's been real. It's been kind of awkward dreams, but they've been dreams still the same. So, you know, sincerely, I deeply, even deeper than that dildo in your butt, apologize. Very sorry, Joe. Okay. Right?
1:01:36Ben Mandelker: Because ever since that night, people have been walking up to me and calling me Peg Bundy. And it took me actually a while to understand why. I was like, is my hair really tall? But then I realized what they were saying. And I was like, wait a second. Yeah, and I feel bad about that. And, like, that's what I want to take in this conversation. I want to remove the dildo from it, you know?
1:01:55Ronnie Karam: Yeah. So they make up and they hug. And she's like, you want me around, don't you, Joe? And he's like, yeah. Yeah, we want you around, Grace. Good. Joe wants me around, everybody. Okay, I'm back, I'm back Season 4 will have me, season 5 will have me Grace Lily in it, okay Hey, did you hear that, Maddie? We made up, okay, I'm back in your life And she's like, okay, great, I hope you had a good combo Yeah, it was so good I'm real sorry for what I said, okay And I'm not wearing pajamas today So you should feel real comfortable with that
1:02:27Ben Mandelker: And by the way
1:02:28Ronnie Karam: I don't wear pajamas to parties
1:02:31Ben Mandelker: By the way, I really wasn't high that night, okay On the Holy Bible I'm in the knot you picked me up, yes, big old ketamine knot, but that knot I wasn't. Maddie's like, well, I hope that this honesty will translate the next time in the moment, and I hope that our friendship can continue in an honest manner. She's like, yeah, I fucked up, and I'm sorry. Guys, the three of us are back together again. Isn't it fun?
1:02:55Ronnie Karam: Yeah, so now there's a showgirl, and they're throwing beads, and she's like, oh, my God, I'm going to pop my titties, my hairy titties. So then the new CEO, Joe, comes out on the balcony with Leva to address everyone. I was really pissed. Justice for Leah.
1:03:12Ben Mandelker: Justice for Leah. It's like, thanks all for coming here for the closeout of the summer as I come in as the new CEO. I'm, wait, you can call me the CEO. Pause for endearing moment as employees love their new overlord. I'm now more happy to grow with you and to know you as if you open up the next chapter we move on to our new venue it's called On Air without Ryan Seacrest that was a joke and it's going to be Republic's sixth amazing location here to serve Charleston and Lava's basically like yeah it's going to be live music and there'll be a rooftop deck and Joe's like what? but I invented rooftop decks and live music I can't believe you did this to me
1:03:58Ronnie Karam: rooftops, live music Are you going to have weddings there sometimes, too?
1:04:02Ben Mandelker: Are they going to serve food and alcohol? God, is nothing sacred?
1:04:07Ronnie Karam: Stolen. So this was crazy of Leva, though, to be like, to just have had a meeting with Joe and then not say anything. And then just be like, now we're announcing our new music venue without Joe. I know. He really knows how to stick it in. Jeez.
1:04:27Ben Mandelker: you would have thought that she would have said look we have something else that we're working on we'd love to have you involved at the at the ground level but uh we're not like you know like
1:04:38Ronnie Karam: work your way up yeah yeah something but yikes and so he you know has a little breakdown he's like this is so like devastating like i've been the face of this entire company for all these years joe i've been this company's bump it without me you guys would have had flat hair
1:04:57Ben Mandelker: i've been this company's lower back pain for so many years at this point but now to do this it's just like i was not expecting this bullshit that's crazy i've made them a lot of money it just sucks how could they steal the idea of live music at a restaurant it's crazy oh my god joe you're like a
1:05:14Ronnie Karam: salesperson wanting to take over at dillard's because he sold some perfume that's not how it works joe so um a big king cake comes out and grace is like oh my god is that for me yes yes gracefully no one will make me hate gracefully i just fucking love her
1:05:32Ben Mandelker: hey okay i understand like hey maddie can you come over here they don't know my value they don't know what i bring to the club yeah but like what have they done for you like think about it so love is like um hi guys support you for five years while you're all doing whatever
1:05:49Ronnie Karam: the fuck you want still letting you come back to work whenever the fuck you feel like it crazy.
1:05:53Ben Mandelker: I love this because basically Joe is being so spoiled and he's being petulant and Lava comes in here and he doesn't realize that Lava's about to read him down and air out all the things. So he's like, I just feel like I've devoted my entire life a year ago or four years ago and then a few days over the past four years to Republic.
1:06:16Ronnie Karam: I'm four years old. I'm basically five years old.
1:06:19Ben Mandelker: I came out of the womb I'm holding a sparkler in my hand and a little sign that said, congratulations, Sue Ann. Okay. Like it was my life's mission to work here.
1:06:32Ronnie Karam: And like, nobody takes me fucking seriously. And I'll work my ass off. Man, it's like, yeah, like he's good at his job. And like, he's been working here for a long time. And like, it's been like, I mean, like I want to open the bar and like, he wants to do it now, you know? And like, and I'm feeling like in a way, like we both feel like, I don't know, like there's like false hope. And then he goes, here's the thing on air. which is possibly one of the dumbest names for a bar i've ever come up with but um on air should have been yours it would have been yours okay lamar and you had talked about having a rooftop like you fell off joe you got lost in the sauce my friend you stopped communicating you went with maddie and you went you dicked off for a year well okay well i won't regret it though because
1:07:14Ben Mandelker: i fell in love with my girlfriend and i went on the road with her and i was like i was there when she was sick. That's fine, Joe. But you're trying to just now insert yourself in the hierarchy. And you don't get to do that. You made a choice to do that. The businesses continue on and your career doesn't. So Lev is like, I was like, come back, Joe. You've got to come back. And you didn't come back. And once you lose trust with someone, you don't open a business with them. You don't give them 10 million. You don't give them 5 million. What about like 4 million? No, Joe, the metaphor does not need to continue.
1:07:48Ronnie Karam: Could I borrow$20? Can we start there? It's like, no, Joe. Okay, no. He's like, but that breaks my heart. Like, for you to tell me that you don't trust me, like, that makes me want to cry. She goes, you left us holding the bag, Joe. You know, who was out there to say there's too many stanchions? Nobody. Nobody was out there. We were, we had so many extra stanchions. People were tripping on the sidewalk over the stanchions, Joe. You could have killed somebody.
1:08:11Ben Mandelker: TJ is sitting with Matt. He's like, oh my God, listen to this. Maddie was like shit talking her man to Molly but like no one addressed it and it was like really funny and like so okay so I didn't tell Mia what Maddie said so like you need to go tell her Mia's like what? and I was like yeah so I was like how are you and Joe and she was like I don't see myself like Mariam and Mia's like she said that and I was like yeah she said 100 % this to me
1:08:36Ronnie Karam: oh my god TJ didn't you already do this last year trying to ruin Maddie's relationship leave her alone go do something with hot dogs for christ's sake yeah so now back to this uh tj is like oh once the show airs it's gonna be like a huge issue and he's like really enjoying it he's such a little ghoul sometimes and the guy's just like oh my god i love this this guy's like perfect for this guy he's perfect for tj so then um back in the room that the other people are in joe's like i mean i need to put myself first like i want to have children with her one day but after like five years of just busting my ass for very minimal money she's like you were on salary for working three nights a week like what the fuck are you talking about what planet are you on joe like you guys don't understand how the real world works he's like but after five years it's not after five years you're good for two years and then you're given a salary and then you're like just not coming to work and you're not even telling us when you're not coming to work and for you to sit here and be like i've been busting my ass for minimal money shut up shut the fuck up now i'm getting pissed joe and i've given you every opportunity and you've had everything in the palm of your hand joe and you're literally like the golden child of fucking republic and then you took off with fucking maddie for a stupid fucking dj career jesus christ what were you taking electronics into a pool last week in mexico what the fuck is
1:09:51Ben Mandelker: wrong with you well i i don't regret that because even pools need to have music and like this is the girl of my dreams like this is my family are by the way go ahead joe keep crying yeah it was yeah we went to the doctor because she was sick and i'm like i know i'm like going to like on my own rooftop someday someday i'm gonna have a rooftop so meanwhile tj is like wait where are joe and maddie what's going on and then he's like oh leva and joe and maddie are in the middle of a meeting and it's heated so then leva's like we put you in a position to do fucking well and you don't want to do well i can be your big sister i'm not your motherfucking mommy and he's like well fine but
1:10:32Ronnie Karam: like a lot of other people are asking me to start a bar. She goes, oh, really? Okay, well then go start a bar with other people and see what that's like. I'm not going to chase you and beg you to work for me. I don't need you. Do you understand? I've told you this five times. I do not need you, Joe. Okay.
1:10:49Ben Mandelker: And then Brad with the other people are like, cheers to a great summer. Love all of you. And scene. It's over.
1:10:57Ronnie Karam: Wow. I guess the cliffhanger is. Listen, I'll give it to this cast. they can do great openings of seasons and great endings of seasons because both were stellar i think yeah the middle could have used some work this season not gonna lie but the tightened up a little bit yeah the beginning and the end were both really good i think that was really messy of tj to just like oh hey i guess i'll just fuck up someone's relationship here at the end of it it's not necessary sir but overall i think a pretty pretty uh good season and good for I don't say that very often on this show, but that was, that was good.
1:11:33Yeah.
1:11:34Ben Mandelker: It felt like it was coming from a real place. Like I am paying you to not work because I know you're important to the show and people like you and I like you, but now you're going to actually act like you deserve something more than that. When you've been on basically like leather welfare. No, it's not, that's not going to work out. So good times. This is a, it's such a fun show. And I, we've got the reunion next week. So we will catch you all then. Thanks for being here. Talk to you on the next one. Bye. Watch what crappens would like to thank its premium sponsors. She answered the call. It's Adia Paul.
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