#3390 RHORI S1E10 Part Two: Homeless Not Truthless

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2:17Watch what happens when there's so much that happens. Watch what happens when there's so much that happens.

2:47Listen to part one, okay? It's before this one. Bye.

2:50Ben Mandelker: Enjoy the show. So now we go to the Ocean State School of Gymnastics because Narula and her daughter, Lila, we're going to practice gymnastics. Okay, well, okay, why don't we do some straddle jumps? Okay, I'm going to do a jump. Okay, I wish I could do a back tuck, but I'm not going to risk it. And so she does a front tuck into the ball pit. She's like, wow, this is amazing. I wish I could retire and do this every day. Brian's like oh so you would like to stay out of the house and be at a specific location every day for a certain number of hours great I support it this is the first time you've been around things that match your energy on this show just the blocks of foam in that fucking page I know right so we go to Rosie's house and she's like Rich I'm gonna put on some eye masks which one should I do clouds or bows he's like I really don't give a fuck how about something that wasn't made for five year olds with eye bags I know about that and then we wind up in Cranston at Twin Oaks restaurant and Alicia's there and I wonder if those Oaks resent each other deep down we look nothing alike and I'm like the younger Oaks so Alicia is she's there she's like there's something about Twin Oaks with my family that's like nostalgic you know cause like you know it's nice it's a restaurant and they're like hey Susan what's up they come in because their daughter Selena won a trophy for dancing.

4:17Yeah, she won like the state championship. It's a big deal. And we're here all getting together. Like we're going to celebrate because she won a national title. Like, you know, like, wait, what does she win? Wait, hold on. Let me think about it. It's a title. It's a championship. Hold on. What's it called? There's a name for it. Miss Title. Miss Title. It's a big deal.

4:37Ben Mandelker: Yeah. And so all the ants, the mom, the ants are there. The ants have multiplied. something has happened there's now we've now gone up from like four or five ants to like ten of them there's just more and more ants every single time and honestly I can't get enough the more ants the better like I love the ants it's like watching DNA split under a microscope keep popping up and each one is more than the last one how you doing honey you did something mistighted oh we're so proud yeah we're so proud you did a mistighted who are you it just popped up just split off just split off under your anti-arm yeah yeah that's that's uh that's Sharon over there and that's Sharon number two um yeah I I love each one has been more wronged by a man than the next one yeah and they're just bitter and jaded but like what you gonna do you get to this age you just live with it yeah well you got a crown in there honey what is that a crown it's like yeah yeah it's like Miss America but for like you know the dance world it's like huge bar so Miss Twin Oaks She tells us about Twin Oaks.

5:42And she's like, it's such a staple of Rhode Island. There's just something about it, you know? It's like out of a movie. But the rumors are like that the mob used to hang out at the bar there a lot, like crooked cops, crooked lawyers. You know, it's like basically it's like dating. It's the way you go to date.

5:56Ben Mandelker: Is there a place in Rhode Island where the mob did not hang out? It's a pretty small state. There's like a very high ratio of mob to land mass in Rhode Island. So I think they pretty much, the mob is hung out like at all the restaurants. There's also such a pride in this town of just being a shitty person. You know, it's like, wow, we love this restaurant. It's where all the crooked cops came.

6:17Ben Mandelker: So I bring my daughter who just won a national title. If you need to bribe someone to get out of the pocket ticket, you come here, get them some garlic bread. You're set. You're good to go. So now Alicia's cousin, Brianna Nicole, is there. Brianna Nicole. I feel like Brianna Nicole is always in a state of having to pick up the laundry from the floor. Brianna Nicole can you pick up the laundry on the floor while you're leaving it there she was so bad they just used both names at all times it's like what has been going on I've not seen you this summer's been so crazy she's like oh my god there's so much going on you don't even know like Selena pay attention you know what Selena move to the other end of the table I don't want you to listen to this you're a stalker and the daughter's like yeah she has to go to the other side that was me around my mom's friends they're like please go over there because I go to school the next day and be like did you hear what that bitch Jackie did to Hilda it was ugly oh gosh mistitled get out of here so Alicia's like everyone come closer so my stalker daughter doesn't listen okay Aunt Judy okay and Aunt Judy number three get over here okay I've been hanging out with these girls and we all went to the castle and we all wore a mask and everyone would share their emotions and you know I couldn't even have a Triscuit it was so intense and I talked to my dad and things I remember do you know remember and I was like one of the things I remember is that like basically my father He left me for homeless.

7:35Ben Mandelker: And then Liz went. He's like, you're not homeless. And then we were in the car to Boston. And all of a sudden, I don't know, something just snapped. And her mom's like, oh, yeah, we were homeless. We were homeless. Yeah, we were homeless. What's this girl talking about? How could she do that? They were homeless. I remember they were homeless. How could she say that to you? They were homeless. That's not a friend right there. That doesn't sound like a friend right there. Marissa, you remember them being homeless? Yeah, they were homeless. I remember. Yeah, they were homeless. Yeah, they were homeless.

8:02They were homeless.

8:03Ben Mandelker: They were homeless. Almost you can imagine. Homeless with a bed. Don't you fuck with me, all right? Homeless. Add on to the bed. What kind of friend are you? Don't forget my sports car bed. Homeless, homeless with a bed. You had cabinets. What are you bringing up the cabinets right now for? We were homeless. With cabinets in the bed. I still miss my Corvette bed. Didn't Alicia have like a convertible bed? Yeah, a little race car bed. So Alicia's like, I've known this since I was born. And like, she should know better. But you know what? She's abusive. Sorry. It feels good to say that. Sorry. God.

8:38Ben Mandelker: I'm like, oh, that's coming back at the reunion. Big time. If you say that someone's abusive and your best friend, and Liz, this is going to be an issue right there. Liz is going to get so mad she's going to abuse her ass at the reunion. She's going to be like, let me show you how non-abusive I am by tearing her apart right now. Yeah, exactly. So Alicia's saying she embarrassed me. She's focused on trying to destroy me. And, you know, and the mom's like, you know, she's got to, you know what? She wants to walk in the room right now. You want, she's what? Is she going to pretend she's your friend?

9:15Is she going to pretend she's your friend?

9:18Ben Mandelker: I don't know, because I'm not talking. I haven't answered her phone or called her back. And I think that she's just like a little bit jealous. You know what? Like, you know what? You know why? Because like you have a perfect life. That's why. Or actually, I'm sorry, the mom says. The mom, yeah. And she's like, no, I don't have a perfect life. It's far from perfect, ma. It's far from perfect. And so she's saying, yeah, you know, I don't agree with my family. My life's not perfect. I'm not married yet. Like, I've been engaged for nine years. Like, I don't even like the way Billy proposed to me. Like, he didn't even give me my Cinderella moment.

9:46Where's my Cinderella moment?

9:48Ben Mandelker: Well, you know, we didn't see a Cinderella get proposed to either, to be fair. Cinderella didn't have great moments, really. I mean, she had, like, one. And honestly, like... She had to, like, clean a lot, too. Yeah. You know what I mean? And, like, maybe she should have cleaned better. Yeah. I feel like you should compare yourself to a Disney princess who didn't have to work so hard. Like, where's my Snow White moment? What did that lady ever do? What about Belle? Belle literally did nothing. She just walked around and got books. She read all fucking day. And back then, that wasn't when they were like, oh my God, you're reading.

10:17You're so smart. Like, if you read a book now, people are like, oh, you are so smart. You read. Back then, it was like sitting around watching TV all day.

10:24Ben Mandelker: And she would annoy everyone saying hello to everyone. I'm like, oh God, I got to say it. Got to be perky for this fucking asshole coming through the town. I'm being like, hello, bonjour. I'm like, you know what? Let me just wipe this counter down. I know. It's like Belle. We all want to give her credit because she was like the first one to marry an ugly dude for his mansion. More like Belle Bib Deneau, get out of my face. So Alicia's Aunt Judy comes in and - Sleeping beauty. By the way, I'm sorry. I'm making bad jokes over here. It's Aaliyah quitting. Aaliyah just had a look on her face like, wow, I am secure and listen to this.

11:00But also, Sleeping Beauty is the laziest bitch out of all time. And she's still got everything. What'd she do? She did nothing but sleep all day.

11:07Ben Mandelker: But also, she had, like, one job, which was, like, not to get your finger pricked. Yeah. Like, how often in your life does your finger really get pricked? Wasn't that Rapunzel? No, Rapunzel had the hair. Oh, but wasn't Rapunzel the one who was stuck with the weaver guy, the troll who was, like, weaving shit? That's Rumpelstiltskin. But he wasn't with her? No, Rumpelstiltskin was just, like... Rumpelstiltskin, that's like a real annoying fairy tale. I forget how that worked, but it's something like he basically... Riddles? He stomped his foot into the ground so hard he wound up going into the...

11:39Ben Mandelker: I don't know. Rumpelstiltskin's such a... Oh, I've done that. It's such a low-end fairy tale. It really is. And it's also like an old guy. Who wants that? Yeah, you always know you're a bad fairy tale if you haven't been made into a Disney movie already. Yeah. At this point, if it hasn't been made, then you're just not... Oh, I remind myself every day. so we see a flashback of her saying you know Billy like I think it would be nice if you asked me the right way like I don't know like surprise me and he's like uh you're almost 50 years old why do you need this? what surprises you? let me tell you something when Cinderella turned 50 I guarantee Prince Charming was not doing anything special for her anymore so now the aunts are still talking and Judy's like so maybe what it is is the medication that Liz takes, huh?

12:25Ben Mandelker: She's like, no, no, I don't think she's on anything. But you know what? They deal in medical marijuanas. She doesn't need it, though. She doesn't need it. You're a liar. That lady doesn't have the medical marijuana. Come on. She doesn't like it, ma. She does the best with plants. It's very sacred. No, it's the paranoia from the medicine. I'm telling you that right now, Alicia. Think about it, okay? You can't tell me I've been around the block. Yeah, she's been around the block. Yeah, well, you know what? The crooked cops used to hang out around the block too. Yeah, I know. I was married to one of them.

12:56Ben Mandelker: Oh, yeah. By the time I was done with him, he was straight again. Motherfucker. We'll break him and put him in a split. Now let's go to Wickford, Rhode Island because Dolores' summer rental is here. So Liz shows up and Dolores is like, hey, dog. Watch out, dog. Liz is here. So Liz is like, hello, Dolly Wally. Dog. I know. It was nice to see Dog again. Liz is like, hello, Dolly Wally. See, I introduced Dolly. this episode, but now Dolly Wally. We're just growing fast. I'm really catching on to me. You know, mommy dressed you up. Ooh, got to take a coffee. Quit so long. Kelsey's on the way. So they go sit outside and talk.

13:38All the ladies, these three ladies sit out and talk. So Kelsey's like, well, Joellen texted me. Do you want to hear what she said? She's like, yeah, I want to hear what she said. Okay, and so it begins. Liz and Alicia. I'm trying to calm Liz down, but she thinks everyone's against her. Nothing's helping. I wish you were here. This is all I know.

13:57Ben Mandelker: There's something. She's like, yeah, I mean, well, I need to hear what happens. Okay, so we sit in the car, and Alicia starts saying, my mother's saying she's so proud of me for telling my truth, and I said, Alicia, you were never homeless. And as I'm saying it, I got Joellen going, oh my god, Alicia, your feelings are validated. Your feelings are valid. Oh my god. And that's coming out of the devil herself, right? So yeah, and now I'm feeling it. I'm feeling offensive that this human is taking the role of a mediator. Yeah. And it's like, instead of saying, you know, no, she didn't mean it that way, she's saying she's sorry, Super Joellen is saying, you deserve to feel the way you feel.

14:34Nobody has the right to take that away from you. I mean, who the fuck wants to take it away from her? I said I was sorry 1 ,200 times.

14:41Ben Mandelker: You know, I always question everything that comes out of Joellen because I just feel like it's disingenuous. And Kelsey's like, and Joellen just wants to be liked by everyone. She's like, yeah, you know, what she does is she goes she's so phony it's like phony bologna you go to the deli and you're like can I get some ham cheese and some bologna of the phony variety because that's what she is Kelsey's like I just want to stay out of this okay just leave me out of this like she's already been yelled at by Liz she's like no thanks so she's like yeah I think Liz's problems stem from trust like she doesn't trust Joellen at all and that's the nucleus of the problems thanks Kelsey yeah thanks have you washed your foot yet.

15:22Ben Mandelker: So Liz is like, you know, we get in a restaurant and like Joelle and she kept putting her hands on me like, calm down. Like that makes me more mad. Like you're enraged, you're fuming. Like why are you so nasty? Oh, you know what? See now? She's making her even more worked up. This is what happens. Correct. I had no choice but then to shut it down. Yeah, but eventually, you know what? She's gonna come to her senses. Hey, you know what? I'd reach out to her because you have history. She's like, Joellen, it is what it is. But when I do look at her and she's like, I'm so kind. And who I've gotten to know through the years, that's not a kind person.

15:59Be yourself. You're horrible human being.

16:02Ben Mandelker: Be horrible. Well, it's funny because she also says, you know, they call me the scary one, but I truly believe Joellen is capable of anything. And this is her thing. I think she just, I think Liz is like, I'm a nice person. And no one is, people always think I'm scary. and no one ever like is kind to me or they are not open to me because that I'm like, they think I'm scary and I'm not scary. But this whole situation, I think it's hitting this thing in her where she's like, see, and now I'm gonna be called scary again. And I think that's what's like setting her off so much. So, and it's also like when you're a bitch like me, you wanna be friends with another bitch.

16:40That's just how it goes, like you. Yeah. And so if we're both bitches, then we get in a situation with somebody else and you act nice and I'm still acting like a bitch. It's like, I thought we were a team.

16:52Ben Mandelker: Like, I'm the only bitch. But you're not really a bitch. You're just like, you play one on TV, but I'm like really a bitch. But like for some reason, people think I'm the nice one on this podcast. All the time, people are like, Ben is so sweet. He is so nice and so sweet. You are sweet and nice. No, I'm not. But you're also a bitch. People don't realize I'm like, I'm a real bitch. And then if they see that, they'll be surprised. I'd say Ben's mean. I'm like, yeah, I've always said I was mean. But for some reason, people say I'm nice. Because you are nice. I don't think you're mean. To me. Well, I think I'm...

17:24Ben Mandelker: I mean, I've seen you in action. It's not that I'm mean. It's just that I have a lot of snotty feelings about things in a way that I think people are surprised about. I don't think people would be surprised that you're snotty. I think that that's why you're celebrated. I love your snottyness. I feel like people are so weak and can't be snotty anymore. They have to pretend that everything's like the same and everything's not the same. That's why there's rating systems. That's why there's star systems. There's a Yelp for a reason. Yeah. Okay. Well, it's always so funny to me on all these shows, how it is always the messenger.

17:55Ben Mandelker: It's always the person who's trying to broker peace between two people that winds up in the biggest feud. Because what's going to happen is Liz and Alicia are going to, they're going to mend fences and it's now going to become Liz and Joellen. And this happens on Housewives, on any reality show, over and over and over again. I mean, it's why you have a saying, don't shoot the messenger, because it happens enough that someone may say. They literally would kill the messenger. Those books I was reading on Rome, they killed them all the time. The messenger would come and tell them something. They would behead them.

18:24Ben Mandelker: Yeah, it's crazy. I don't know why anybody is a mailman. I think that people, I think ultimately we seem to value people just saying what's on their mind. And even if you're mad at them in that moment, if you have a fight, it's like, well, okay, well, you said what was on your mind. Versus someone who is trying to, people who are trying to broker peace, whether it's real or not, are often perceived as phony. Because it's like, ultimately, like, who are you trying to, you can't say that you're neutral. That's how people view it. And so it's like people would be angrier at someone who they perceive as inauthentic than they would be at someone who might say something that's actually hurtful or mean or whatever.

19:08Ben Mandelker: Like they will always get over something. They'll always get over the beef with the person who said the mean thing or the wrong thing or whatever it is before they get over someone who they feel like is. Just the wits that you can't read. but sometimes someone is being authentic but they're in a position where someone feels like they're not authentic and once you have that stink on you of you're not authentic that's always going to be the biggest that'll always be the biggest crime in any of these feuds well so think about that everyone who's stopped listening shut up to people who are not here anymore At first glance, I thought this next note said sourdough beach.

19:53And I was like, finally, a beach for me. Fucking finally, I can go somewhere and take off my shirt. Because that's what I look like without my shirt. I look like a new sourdough. At least it's new. I look like a new sourdough boulet. Is that what they're called? A boule. They're called boules? Yeah. It's not called boulet? No.

20:14Ben Mandelker: What, have we just forgotten our French? No, you're just. You've done the, you just, you, you added like a little extra sizzle to it, but it's a boule. It's a boule. A boule. No, not a boule. I don't like that. Sourdough boule. Because my grandfather was Lebanese. And if you were lying, you would say boule. Maybe he was just asking for bread. Sourdough boule. It's b-o-u-l-l-e. Boule. Hmm. Well, anyway. I can only imagine how many bakers have been like, do you guys sell sourdough bouleys? Well, don't forget. I also live in Texas, so I'm sure that's normal there. Can I have one of them bouleys? Hand it over.

20:52Ben Mandelker: I have a boule, please. Someone's speaking French. I got a nice boule over here. Bou you. Boule. Boule me forever. Boule you stay. So, yeah. I feel like I look like... I feel like what I look like with Ashrodon is a piece of naan. kind of i wish just like kind of flat but lumpy in areas that's good though you've got the flatness down and who doesn't love non i love non me too i think like if you were if if bread were like a body goal what would you i think you would probably want to be like a ciabatta right it's got the ripples like abs on top maybe i would want to be a breadstick a baguette or as You might call it a baguette.

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23:16And you realize you're not thinking about what you're buying but how you're paying for it?

23:21Ben Mandelker: I've actually been using Klarna for that because it gives you options. You can pay now, later, or over time, depending on how you want to handle it. Sometimes I'll split something into a few payments so I don't have to deal with it all at once. And I like that. You know, I like that everything's super clear in the app. You always know what you owe and when, so there aren't weird surprises. And it's not just for huge purchases either. I've used it for everyday stuff. And you can even get cash back and deals in the Klarna app, which honestly feels like kind of a smarter way to handle spending day-to-day.

23:49Less pressure, more flexibility.

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24:27How are your eggs doing, honey? You guys going to make kids? Ain't no life worth living without the fucking kids. What are you doing with this? Shut up about you and your fucking kids, you human polluters. All of you people dropping all these losers all over the place. I'm sick of picking up your litter and hearing your kids run around. Just everybody stop having kids. They're like, what's going to happen to the human race? Maybe it'll end. And God bless the earth.

24:49Ben Mandelker: Yeah, because for every doctor you birth, you also birth a Kelsey sticking her bare foot into a pail of garbage. Yes, you have one doctor and then you have 20 people who are like drinking fucking Drano because they saw it on TikTok, you know? That's why you have the doctor taking those ideas. But one thing I will say, my takeaway on this that I did enjoy was that I actually think that Rich and Rosie have a really good banter. Like they have a really good rapport that feels very healthy to me. which means they'll probably get divorced. But I have to say, I think that they have, like, I like their vibe together.

25:24Ben Mandelker: I think that, like, he gives it to her, she gives it back. It's like, because then we're going to go right into, I believe, an Ashley scene. Yeah, it's an Ashley scene. Because it struck me, they have a really, I really enjoy their banter. And then when we go to Ashley, you can see that Ashley's almost, like, afraid to say things to her husband. She's like, oh, you hate it. You love it when I'm here, right? So I have to say. They've always had that dynamic, too. Because even on Bachelor in Paradise, where they got together, I covered that season. and she was she was like oh i'm jared's best friend but we don't have anything more there maybe i like him it's like he's like dating all these other people and then you'd see jared like literally trying to be with anybody else and finally at the end he's like well i guess no one else is into me so i guess it's you ashley he's like are you sure and so they've got this like fucked up dynamic that has lasted into their marriage and like she's the gorgeous i mean he's pretty hot but she's like the gorgeous model who's making all the money and being famous and he's just kind of this hot not schlubby in a looks way he's a hot guy but he's kind of this like i'm just i just want to stay in my coffee shop and make some fucking so coffee and just be left alone and like play my playstation is that too much to ask you know and she's the one acting like she's punching up that she's actually punching down yeah yeah Well, speaking of which, let's move on to Audrey's.

26:48Ben Mandelker: So I was decided, I was like, what's going on with Audrey's? Because it's like, oh, it's not making money. It's not making money. Well, I noticed a few things. One, I decided to look around Audrey's in the scene and I looked at it. This is an enormous space. I should have realized it last week when they had their trivia night. But like, it's very big. It's very airy. This is too big for a coffee shop. I'm sorry. So you're losing money because you don't have a, it's not cozy. The way a coffee shop should be a coffee shop should either be cozy or chic. And it's neither of those things. So need a chandelier.

27:21Ben Mandelker: Need a chandelier. Like if I'm going into a coffee shop, like I want to either go to a blue bottle where everything is sleek and like a stark and I feel very cool and hip, or I want to go into someplace cozy. Like I want to go to a central perk place with a comfy couch is, but either way, this was just sort of like a, it's like a very big generic space. It's echoey. It just, if you look in the background, it goes forever. There's couches, there's tables, there's a fireplace. It's just goes, it goes and goes i was like okay it's in a mall i think somebody i think i read somewhere that it's like in a mall or it's part of a shopping center so it's also not convenient to go to like you're not going to go to the starbucks at the mall unless you're at the mall right you know but if it's part of a strip mall like okay fine but then on top of that we have this whole scene here that we're about to get into about um but wait i want to still talk about coffee shops no no no no no no it's part of that okay it's that then you're i like that that was like an hour By the way, that was like a very serious moment.

28:15Ben Mandelker: You're like, no, no, we have, no. And this whole scene is about like cocktails and like we have a cocktail program we want to introduce. I literally am not going to your coffee shop to drink booze. This is why you're a failing business. No one goes to coffee shops for their cocktails. I'm sorry. It's called a coffee shop. And actually, then I saw the sign. It's called Audrey's Coffee and, it's not coffee and cocktails, but it's coffee and something else. choice but it was like this is your problem it's mixed messaging you just cannot make you cannot you're not odd if audrey's becomes like super successful maybe you can bring that in starbucks couldn't even do this starbucks introduced a fancy line of starbucks you remember these starbucks they were like the nice starbucks aaliyah did you ever see those nice starbucks the stores they were these like like their specialty starbucks there was one that used to be on the I don't know if you could get like coxas, but you could get alcohol.

29:15Ben Mandelker: Weird. And not take off. Well, I'm like so mad about this point. I'm like, they're serving alcohol. They shouldn't. It's like you either be a bar or you're a coffee shop. But you can't be like a mix of this and that or whatever. Yeah, pick a lane. Pick a lane. And I have a big footprint. It is amazing how much design really does matter. So I went to three coffee shops today because we're in Soho and I wanted to walk around. I was here early. And so I went to the closest one, which is this one. Oh, I went to. You know what? I went there with Michelle once. It has like the thing in this middle, right?

29:45Well, it's just, no, it's just like a little small, tiny place. You walk in, there's just like a counter. It's like some little benches that you can sit at. Oh, I went to a different place. And you just walk in. It's very simple. Okay. And I was like, I don't want to go in there because I don't like, is there pastry? And then down the street, there's one called Velvet. And you look in and it's just gorgeous, glittering pastries. And there was a line around the store to get into that one. So I didn't want to go to that one because it was a line. So I went to one down the block. I forget what it was called.

30:12And it was just ugly. It was like, what are you, a 7-Eleven or a coffee shop? I'm not even going in there.

30:16Ben Mandelker: It was a Radio Shack. Yeah. I was like, I'm not going in there. And they're selling old keyboards? Yeah. And the girl was like spraying like binocca in her mouth. I'm like, I want to get coffee from you. Stinky, stinky breath. So I walked back. Ultimately, I went to Velvet. I mean, it looked gorgeous. It has a line around the block. It's like the pastries are gleaming. You're going to go in there. They didn't have decaf coffee, though. So I got my pastry from there. And I still ended up at the Columbe. But at least in there, you know, it's going to go fast and it's good. They're simple. You know, you see what you're getting with each one.

30:47Audrey's is like, what are you, a trivia night? That's the thing. Is it a pogo stick competition? Like, what are we doing? Am I getting coffee? What's happening?

30:53Ben Mandelker: And also the thing is that like there is like an aesthetic for coffee shops. And if you don't follow that aesthetic, then what it sort of says the consumer is they don't know what they're doing. Yeah. And so therefore the coffee is not going to be good. Yeah. And like, why am I going to waste my time here? because the thing is, is I actually sometimes don't even like a coffee shop that looks a little too bougie and fancy. Like I don't want a coffee shop that looks like it's for influencers. I want a coffee shop that again, I just want it to, I want the coffee shop to be a lifestyle that I aspire to.

31:27Ben Mandelker: Because if you really know, if you think about it, if you think about it, the coffee at most of these places is largely going to be the same. Some places have better coffee and you can taste, But by and large, I think the average person really is not going to taste a huge difference between too many of the coffees. You might notice this coffee is a little bit more acidic or this or that. But a lot of times, the reason why I think we're gravitating towards certain coffee shops is because we like what that coffee shop says about us and how we feel when we go there. And when I go to certain coffee shops, I feel smarter.

31:59Ben Mandelker: I feel artsier. I feel whatever. I feel more motivated to do my thing. But if I go into a coffee shop that is like, just doesn't have the right vibe, it feels like a waste of a coffee shop experience. I can't explain it. No, I think you're explaining it well. Yeah, I think it's like, I mean, I don't like to say like, oh, I go to a coffee shop because it makes me feel like I'm smarter or whatever. It's like embarrassing to say that. But I think if I really drill down, some of these places are about the vibe you want to be surrounded by because coffee is ultimately coffee. Well, it's everything.

32:32you know like every place you go into is like that i guess yeah i mean for me it's not for me all a coffee shop is is a place that has a croissant that's all i think about so maybe that makes me a croissant of a human being like i don't know i'll take that yeah i mean look i will get coffee in a in a in every place but i'm gonna be on my couch with the croissant yeah but you know

32:54Ben Mandelker: what like i just there's like a vibe that you're going and by the way i say coffee is coffee and I know different coffee shops, they do literally have different flavors. Like you, you can tell a difference, but ultimately like a cop, if two coffee shops have the exact same coffee, you know, if you go to, how about this? You go to a, um, you're, you're staying at a hotel and the little cafe downstairs says we proudly serve La Coulomb coffee. And then there's like La Coulomb down the street. I'm probably gonna go to La Coulomb down the street because I like the vibe there more, you know? yeah so i've proven something so the point is audrey audrey sucks i can't believe this place is still fucking open yeah so um ashley's there it's like um i'm actually starving can you make me a grilled cheese or like tomato soup or no tomatoes oh god would tomato soup be ridiculous and he's like oh no she says can i have a grilled cheese but without the tomato soup would that be ridiculous yes lady you own the place just you own the just get a grilled cheese or actually how about this why don't you go back there and put the two pieces of bread and the butter down on the on the hot the hot plate that you need to do and then put the cheese on it and you'll be ready in two minutes yeah you're the owner get back there and work so there she's decided she's going to make this a more profitable coffee shop by bringing in cocktails as you mentioned we're gonna do a summer menu um she's like you hate me being here don't she's like i mean not any more than i hate you being at home or in my life in general, sit down.

34:26Ben Mandelker: So they start experimenting with some cocktails to make for this coffee shop, which already I don't like that they're making cocktails, but they're doing it. And so he makes like this neon blue cocktail. I was like, what are you like? If a coffee shop is going to serve cocktails and it does happen, it can happen. Like, why are you serving a cheesy ass blue cocktail from 1993? Like, what is happening here? This is not like a frat place. Yeah, no one serves blue cocktails anymore. This is not how it goes. It should be artisanal. I mean, it's Rhode Island. Yeah, I guess so. It should be artisanal, and it should be muddled, and there should be limelies everywhere.

35:04Ben Mandelker: But you know what they also have? I also noticed this, too, with this coffee shop. The back wall had all those Italian syrups. Yeah, yeah. And I feel like whenever I see that, I'm like, this is not my vibe. You're not serious people. I don't feel like that's like - You're like the guy from Succession. Yeah. You're not serious people. I don't think that's what coffee shops in 2026 are doing. Yeah, the Torini. Those syrups are like a relic of 1997. Yeah. Like, it's just so out of touch. Like, these are people who don't know what they're doing. Well, I'm not being this fired up in a month. I'm, like, so mad about this coffee shop.

35:38It's so funny. Yeah, that blue drink actually triggered me, too. I was like, can you just get a vodka soda at this place? Because then the other one they made was also a really brightly colored thing.

35:45Ben Mandelker: Like, make a mojito. Yeah, why are we making these for, like, college girls on their first spring break? It's like they don't know what – these are people that just don't know what – they have no favorite reference. But I think maybe they're trying to bring the kids into drinking, which is actually smart. Because they had Trivia Night and they had all the kids in there. There were like a lot of kids. And so I think they're trying to make alcohol good to the kids and then they should open a bar across the street. So create alcoholism. Create some alcoholics young who like your brand and then you transition them into alcoholism.

36:15So I think it could be a good idea. I just don't think they're thinking on that level.

36:19Ben Mandelker: But you know what it's also doing? is that you know that this place is like last calls at 9 30 you know they close at probably eight or ten yeah like so you're like you want to like what you're trying to like court some sort of like happy hour thing like so you're not gonna be bar enough to be a bar you're not gonna be coffee shop enough to be a coffee shop so just like burn the whole thing down i say burn it down burn it down for sure yeah let's burn it down yeah so um this scene was sad because he clearly hates her um and so do you so that that works i just think she's a poor casting choice i'm sorry and i'm not i have not understood why she's on this show yet okay i mean yeah i like her i get it i mean i know why i really earned her stripes especially like the other the other ladies on here are putting in a lot more except for you ruler but at least she has a cheating husband you know and she's lebanese which i always approve of yeah so then uh this is boring so then we go to kelsey's apartment and she has easels so we learned something about kelsey today which is that she is a somewhat higher end mediocre artist which i was very surprised she can draw yeah she like did some art that was like you know when they do those commercials or they used to do them like oh it's a starving artist sale at the airport you know yeah like the people and you're like well i get it yeah i get why they're starving it's like she watched some they're doing something yeah but she was like way more talented than i thought i have me too let me totally give her credit or it's like someone with a kid that you always thought was really like kind of a dumb kid but then they can draw something and you're like wow that's that's pretty good yeah you know you'll be great when you're not three it's like crayons on a menu but still i was impressed yeah unfortunately uh she used the sole of her foot as her paint palette but that's okay she needs to paint the bottom of her foot with a wet nap that's her brush i know okay uh so joellen comes over for art day and uh she's like oh my god you're in painting?

38:12She's like, yeah, I've always done it my whole life. I had a scholastic art award in high school.

38:18Ben Mandelker: And Joellen's like, shut up. I didn't know this about you. And we see that three weeks ago, she had this big drawing that she made of herself. So they're painting and Joellen's like, you know, I haven't talked to you about my last time I saw Liz, but honestly, it was just aggressive and really hurtful. And I don't want to fight with her. She's one of my best friends. I've now announced this for my 14th time she's one of my best friends and she was like berating me and like it like wouldn't stop and like Kels it was like a lot and like we were in public and I'm like I'm not doing this I don't know why you're so mad at me yeah and Kelsey's like yeah dude this was gonna come this day was gonna come and she's like I've already been yelled at her I'm not getting in the middle of this basically and she's like so Kelsey like where do you stand in all this like I'm not trying to make you like pick sides but like it's a little uncomfortable so like pick a side you know did I do something wrong Am I crazy?

39:08Like, what's going on? She's like, no, I mean, look, I just, I don't think there was malice in you consoling Alicia, but listen, I already had my shit with Liz, okay? Just, this is my art day. Can we just concentrate on my art?

39:21Ben Mandelker: Part of me feels that, like, Kelsey is scared of her, but, like, we're all, like, because, like, there's no reasoning with Liz, and, like, at a certain point, it's Liz's way of the highway, and, like, she's scary as fuck. Like, she's gonna come through this fucking screen, like, the ring, and, like, climb out with her fucking hair and be like, wow, you know? Like, because that's what she does. It's like a scene from The Ring. Like, right? It's like a ring. That's so funny. I just told my friend on a comment on one of his Instagram videos. I was like, this is like watching The Ring, this video.

39:48And I was wondering where that came from. It was from watching Rhode Island. Damn it. I hate how this stuff just seeps into your brain.

39:54Ben Mandelker: Well, to be fair, I think we've mentioned things being like The Ring many times. Also, you know who's not going to like that? Liz. She's like, I'm not scary. You look like the possessed girl coming through the TV. But also, Joe Ellen's one to talk about someone being scary. I mean, Joellen's got her friends following somebody around with a private eye to get videos of your husband cheating. She's pretty fucking scary, too. Yeah. And I still don't believe that she did absolutely nothing to get put in those hospitals. I just don't believe it. She set something on fire at the very least. So then they're like, okay, let's look at what we did.

40:26Ben Mandelker: So then Kelsey turns around and she made this very lovely ocean sunset painting. And the music's like, whoa. Like, oh, wow. Oh, and then Joellen turns those around, and it's like an amateurish painting of a slut pig. Or a slam pig. It's like, slam pig! Commercials, here comes one right now. Summer always changes how I'd get dressed. I want pieces that feel lighter and more breathable, things that are easy but still pulled together. That's why I keep coming back to Quinn's. They focus on high-quality essentials that feel and look amazing. Think breathable linen, soft organic cotton, well-made basics but without the luxury markup.

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43:47Ben Mandelker: Thanks for that update. You sent a heart emoji. Wow. This text from Liz is so long. My last text never went through. I get the notion that you like to keep things private and I'm cautious to impose. What the fuck kind of sentence is that? Who's structured that? I get the notion that you like to keep things private and I'm cautious to impose. Are you even... Who's writing this? I feel like she's... Sounds like lyrics to, like, isn't this like a song? Yes, probably. I get the notion. I've maintained from the beginning that I can only go as far as you're willing to meet me. I'm hearing that you've not been well.

44:22I'm sorry to hear this. Tell me it's none of my business, but I suspect a lot of that has to do with mental and emotional stress, and you need to be so guarded during a turbulent time. We've been there at some point, and I'm no exception. It's raw. It's real. It's life. Menopause gummy. But I can't be there for you if you don't allow me to. That being said, I personally would want someone to tell me this. dot dot dot but it doesn't say is she saying your husband is cheating is that after the dot dot dot um or just the whole text i i don't know i don't know if she's saying like yeah i don't know if

44:57Ben Mandelker: it's implying about like the about the cheating or if she's saying like oh i wish someone would check in on me the way you yeah so ruler goes i hearted her text i was so dead out of it i just didn't have the energy to send a proper response when i was ill with that virus that they couldn't figure out or pinpoint if i sent a three-page text to somebody and they just hearted it and never wrote back i mean what the hell ruler you don't even show up you can take the time to just write thank you yeah seriously or ty ty you had time to do a front flip into a film yeah so uh they're sitting down and there's like a bee.

45:36Ben Mandelker: And Rola's like, oh my God, it's a bee. I'm scared. Look at, oh God, be careful. Liz's like, I'm actually the one that's allergic here. It's like, you know what? I don't know if I am. And I never want to know. It's my one thing. I can't handle bees. Oh no, look how distraught I am. So she's like, what happened with Joellen? So Liz tells her the story. She's like, I went, you know, we went to Boston. I fell bambouzled and tag-teamed. I was on the defense. Joellen taking the space of peacemaker and mediator. Oh, Joellen, who cares about everybody. She plays this role and that role. I'm like this.

46:16I'm like that. I'm like that person. I'm like this person. You know what I'm saying?

46:23Ben Mandelker: Yeah, I'm doubting Joellen's authenticity. Wake up. Good morning. Good morning, Elizabeth. I'm not waking up because this is where you're wrong. I felt this way since the beginning. And then they do air a quite lengthy montage of Liz pushing back on Joellen. Joellen's starting shit constantly. She's like, I know I'm constantly questioning her authenticity. Well, I'm flattered that she's so interested in my life. But at the same time, you know, go fix yours. Don't lash out at my husband. I wouldn't do that to yours. And there's a lot I could lash out on her with. I was like, well, is there with Joellen?

47:00Ben Mandelker: She sort of has this hot guy and maybe a sister. No, Joellen does a lot of stuff they've already talked about. But like that she has to fix? That she's like a swinger and that they're always cheating on each other. Oh, yeah, yeah. And that they're always doing all this stuff. Well, there's the sister banging Gary. But Rula's like. That sister is probably banging Gary. I mean, come on. Let's just say. If you were the sister? Of course. Shit, I'd be banging Gary too. Let's just say Joellen might be guilty of what she accuses Brian of doing. So one thing I've heard is that Joellen is not the most loyal to a husband.

47:30Ben Mandelker: It's like the pot calling the kettle black, you know? No, it's not. Because she's calling out your husband, not you. And you're calling out her. Because the thing is that she actually has like, she has hard evidence on Brian. And like we all see it. That's the issue. I don't know how hard it is. I mean, it is Brian. I would guess it's at least like half. That's for our Housewives show. That's, that's like considered. Well, I just mean his hard on. Oh, yeah. so he's like definitely a helicopter like he's gotta work now we go over to Thrive Performance Lab and we know it's a real deal fitness place because it's not spelled with an I it's spelled with a Y I don't know yeah I see that Thrive why are you gonna go to a performance lab that can't spell itself Thrive Y Thrive Y oddly enough it's also at Audrey's I'm like what they really do everything in this coffee shop so she's there with Billy right Billy and David the fitness coach it's Kelsey and Billy Bill and they're working out and everything and she's like you know touching his butt and stuff like that and she goes it's nice to look at a man that knows what he's doing he looks like Hercules with the muscles and the blondish hair and if he had like what like a mermaid tail is that what Hercules had a mermaid tail it's like lady this is why this is why you don't get with a sugar daddy like just do some basic basic not even reading like pamphlet reading maybe yeah I'm like I'm not even saying go to college Disney movie wasn't it you think you at least know that it's just it's like just do some basic anything get yourself some awareness of Hercules like how do you put on your shoes in the morning I don't know how to get a mermaid tail she and Bill are She is the definition of a low-functioning AI machine.

49:25Ben Mandelker: It's like, hey, can you generate me an image of Hercules? And you're like, why does my Hercules have a mermaid tail on it? Yeah, she's an idiot AI. So she was flirting with Billy and stuff, and the workout guy, David, was like, what is this? What is all this baby, baby? What do you got? It's official? What do we got going on here? Come on. And Kelsey's like, Bill, you want to answer that? Would you call us official? He's like, of course. Say it with integrity, baby. He's like, yeah, yeah, definitely. So they basically are official. And Kelsey's saying that, like, loyalty's a really big thing for her, which is, of course, why she was in a relationship with a guy who had another wife.

50:06And you were just running around with Bill while you were with that guy. What are you talking about? We just saw you with two boyfriends at the same time last week. What are you talking about? Loyalty is so important.

50:16Ben Mandelker: I want to make sure that when you put your foot in a garbage can, it's only in your garbage can. She's crazy. So she said, like, for the last, you know, in the last relationship, you know, she was in it for 10 years. So she really tested Bill and he passed with flying colors. And then they're like, what? How? She's like, he was celibate waiting for me for a year. I was like, lady, I have bad news for you. He was not celibate. He was not celibate. At the very least, that guy was getting steam room blowjobs. At the very least. There was no way that that guy was celibate. Nobody who looks like that is celibate for a year waiting for your ass.

50:48Knowing that you're with some guy for his money that's also fucking 10 other people. Stop it. No, no. Get out of here.

50:54Ben Mandelker: Yeah, get out of here. So they're talking about, Bill really wants her to give up her attachments to the ex, like the car and everything. And then this is when they talk about the health insurance. This is when she talks about being in the car accident and finding out that she had a brain tumor and that it's been removed. But she has to get an MRI twice a year to make sure it doesn't grow back. And so health insurance is even more. But you know, have you noticed how she's talking is just like talking about leaving a job? Mm-hmm. I can't leave. That's my health insurance. Yeah. I had a brain tumor.

51:26I'm not leaving this company. Like, this company is, like, going to keep me on part-time? I'm staying. Okay? What the hell?

51:31Ben Mandelker: I think what would be great for her is if she actually got a job, and then she could try to pursue some health insurance. Hopefully, if she got the right type of job. Yeah. I mean, I don't know where I stand on this. I think she has a decent point in, like, if you're with somebody for 10 years, even if you weren't married you're still with them for 10 years so it's not crazy to keep taking some money from them i think her thing is just she's doing this whole like independent woman thing like look at me but she's still paying for everything and i can get how bill would maybe be annoyed by that but she makes the point she's like so you want to take my car he's like it's not your car she's like but it's the car i'm driving like what are you gonna put me in you know yeah that's her only thinking is like well what are you gonna get me instead and you know Yeah.

52:13Ben Mandelker: I mean, I don't know. I just think I think that she should aspire for. She's giving kind of like a complacency vibe. And I'm like, that's fine. Like, it's fine to transition. But like, you should like try to try to get a job. OK, let me put it this way. Her lifestyle of just living off of other people because she's hot. I think that's not something new in the world. Right. Men and women both do it. and I don't think it's like an invalid way. Like it's a lifestyle. People do it and I accept it, but I don't respect it. I'm not going to pretend to. That's all fine. But like weird, it's weird behavior, but like, you want me to get rid of a car?

52:53Ben Mandelker: Then what are you going to get me? Get a fucking life, Kelsey. And I get a job, get a job, you know, work at Audrey's. So now we go over to Providence, Rhode Island and Joellen calls Alicia. She's in her car. And she's like, Oh my God, I was getting my hair done and my makeup done. Where are you? She's like, I'm driving right now, and I'm going to actually go meet up with Liz. She's like, oh my god, she reached out to me, and I need a break. Like, how did this happen? I'm happy that you guys actually meted up, but what's going on? Yeah, so they go meet up, and Joellen's like, here's what I want from today.

53:22I want to make things better. And Liz is coming in with the same energy that I'm coming in with. She owes me a big apology, but truly, I don't think she'll ever give it. Like, if Liz has something in her head, she thinks people are against her, even when they love her. Even when they love her.

53:36Ben Mandelker: so joellen's like they sit down and joellen's like shivering she's like thanks for meeting me um so cold right now liz's like oh yeah wow is it bad this is where liz is clearly fucked up there's something going on with liz in the scene and i was cracking up she doesn't even know what she's she's like oh yeah you don't feel good well you feel bad you feel cold her eyes start were they not allowed to film inside like what was going on because it starts raining on them and they just sit out there yeah well it's raining and jamal's like oh my god it's like raining so liz they both are they both want an apology and they both don't think they're actually going to get an apology but they're going to hope for something so liz is like hi i have no desire to fight with you none what i'm not going to do right though is go back to the homeless thing explain it but i took offense to you positioning yourself as a peacemaker in that ride like wouldn't you think a mediator say something along the lines of, hey Alicia, you know what, you know where her heart is, you know that, like, you know what she meant, what she didn't mean by it, you know, like rather than, oh, your feelings are justified and no one else can take that away, which is true, by the way, I wouldn't take that away from her.

54:47But you were going at her hard, you know, and you were stepping on your own toes, you know, with the things you were saying.

54:53Ben Mandelker: Oh, I was stepping on toes? Oh, so now that's assault? You're saying I'm physically assaulting people? It's like, I don't know what the phrase is, I don't know, but you were just mean okay i'm just saying you were mean she's like oh really well i think there's part of you that likes to escalate let's be honest you don't try to make anything better ever liz all you had to do was say okay i get what you're saying you weren't technically homeless but i get how you would feel that way that's it what do you have to say like i'm sorry and then keep walking away going i said i'm sorry she was never homeless like oh my god or say hey alicia I think a better word for you to use would be displaced or this or that, whatever.

55:31Ben Mandelker: But like, this is coming from a place of love, but just so you know, you're going to get, you're going to get like raked over the coals for this. Stop saying homeless. You should use this word instead because you're going to, people are going to think you're saying this, whatever. Like, but she's just like, she's not handling it well either. And I get it. I sort of get Liz being like, you know, if you're going to be a mediator, like also stick up for me too. Like, like, you know, cause like advocate for me being like, I wasn't trying to be me. I was just trying to correct her. So Joellen's like, why are you so cruel to me?

55:59Ben Mandelker: Like, what did I do to you? Like, what did I do to you that night? What did I do to you in the past? Why are you so mean? I've been nothing but a good friend to you. I look at you as one of my best friends. We're best friends of all time. Stop saying we're best friends. We are not best friends. We were never best friends. Never been. No, when my grandfather was dying, she was my first phone call. She's one of my best friends. And to hear that she's not, like, doesn't think the same way of me is, like, really heartbreaking and gut-wrenching. It's actually disgusting. think it's really hurtful. You know what?

56:27Ben Mandelker: I'm real and you're fucking fake. No, I, it's not real. It's cruel. It's mean. You know what? You pulled my hair. Did you kick my chair? Were you aggressive towards me? I pulled your hair. I kicked your chair, darling. I pulled your hair. I kicked your hair. Yeah, I remember you tugged it. I remember you kicking me in my chair. Oh, yeah. Oh, you remember I tugged your hair? You're a freak. I pulled your hair. You're a fucking devil. I didn't pull your hair and you know it. So see, she's like, what you're doing is now you're trying to make it look like I'm physically abusing you and I did not do these things.

57:01And Joellen's like, you did. You pulled my hair and you kicked my chair and then you put me into a hospital for getting boobs.

57:10Ben Mandelker: Okay, there's something so fucked up about you, you know. Well, why is it me that's fucked when you're the one who's fucking kicking me, huh? She's like, I don't need to be here with someone attacking me, attacking my character. It's kind of getting late. I think I gotta go. And she tells us, you know, the minute she said I put my hands on her, I knew I fucking knew right there, all right? When I hit a reconcile, we're here to do battle. And I couldn't take it, you know? I did not put my hands on her in any kind of way except maybe just to get her chair away from me. Maybe that. There's a difference.

57:45Ben Mandelker: There's a difference. You know, I'm trying to get past this after her with all the things that she said to me after the way you treated me, and I'm trying to move past this.

57:55Ben Mandelker: I don't want to fight with Liz. Like, I care about Liz. It's just, it's so embarrassing to know somebody that you care about. Let's just care about you the same way. And Liz is parked right on the street and gets in her car and passes and rolls down her window and is like, fuck you. She rolls down her window and she goes, piece of shit. And she drives up. So that's where it leads us off. Wow. An exciting episode. All right. Well, now we're all caught up on all those shows. Thank you all for being here for this Rhode Island episode. And we'll catch you on our next episode of Watch What Crappens.

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