#3397 Southern Hospitality S4E14: Bananas Republic

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1:16When there's so much that crappens, it's a club that's what crappens. Oh, I mean, I'm not sure.

1:21Ronnie Karam: Who cares what happens when there's so much that crappens? Well, hello, and welcome to Watch What Crappens, a podcast for all the crap we love to talk about on your props. I'm Ronnie. That's Ben. Hello, Ben. Hi, Ronnie. How are you? How are you? Getting your lower back settled over there? Yeah, I'm getting comfy. Oh, it's my back. just getting comfy you know trying to find some sort of angle yeah we're on couches this week which is very lovely with the glamorous ACAS Studios New York City it's been a joy it's been a joy I'm just I'm sitting here I'm reclining on the sofa but I see myself and I when I recline I'm all the way like your head's up here and I'm all the way down here and I'm like sitting in you're also really far from your mic now well this is the oh yeah this is Or you can get that other pillow.

2:11Ronnie Karam: I've got a pillow stack. No, I'm just going to do this. There we go. This is a reclining, friendly microphone now. Go on, Ronnie. Tell everyone. Well, hi, everybody. Welcome to the show. Today is Southern Hospital Day. We are here in New York doing our cabaret. It is tomorrow night, Friday night, the 5th at 7 p.m. and 9.30 p.m. Eastern Time. You can stream that. Get tickets at watchwhatcrappens.com or on our Instagram link in bio. you can buy tickets up to showtime watch it for a week after it's a big party in there it's a lot of comments and it's like a chat room and stuff so it's really fun thanks to everybody who came last night and we'll see you then also if you want this video recap you can get videos also bonus episodes this week was a Love Island cast preview kind of thing and I do a weekly blog recap of all the shows so if you want to read some old TVgasm Trash Talk TV style blogs.

3:09Ronnie Karam: That's free. Just sign up over at our Patreon. Patreon.com slash Watch What Happens. Let's jump right into it, right? Southern hospitality. Would love nothing more in this episode. Southern hospitality. Yeah. Will we ever see what's happening at On Air? The new restaurant bar. Will we ever? Will we ever? So guess what? Very exciting for this cast, their first ever real deal reunion that was not just a bunch of stools crammed together in the Bravo Clubhouse. They got an actual set where they made it look like Republic. So everyone arrives, which means they also got their first ever, or at least as far as I can remember, maybe they did it last year.

3:51They are getting an arrival montage. Oh my God, happy reunion day. I'm tired. I'm sleepy. Well, you look crazy. Oh, little things under your eyes. Whoa, no crying today. All that good stuff.

4:01Ronnie Karam: Michaels is like, oh, my mom was like, you're so ugly when you cry. I love his mom. I'm starting to love his mom. She was so mean to him. But I don't know. I'm kind of loving it. She's like, oh, God, please don't cry. You look so ugly when you cry. So Maddie's like, I just want to get on stage and get this over with. I was like, yeah, no. You know what I want to get over? Being Joy Bottles. I want to go from being Joy Bottles to like, Joey W9 filler out or just be like an adult. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, okay, whatever, Joe. It's going to be really hard for me not to be like Molly Moore's like, fucking ass.

4:31Like, she's a compulsive liar. Like, so is her twin, Mia. Ugh.

4:36Ronnie Karam: So Brad checks on TJ and he's like, are you nervous? And TJ's like, no. Is that a beta blocker or is that you? Which I feel like it's just such a fair question that we just all need to be asking each other every day. Is this your beta blocker? Is it even you? Like, who am I talking to right now? Well, but also to be fair. What happened to good old fashioned rage and terror? Yeah. Bring back just drug free, just raw dogging it through life, you know? but also like does TJ really have emotions he's pretty kind of even keeled like when he's upset he's like I'm like really upset and you're like are you happy now now I'm like ecstatic like okay well I think anybody who thinks TJ doesn't have emotions should look at his threadbare carpet because there is nothing left there it's just vacuuming his emotions are just vacuuming over the same spot over and over again season after season very threadbare his eyes just go left and right like a felix the cat clock ronnie i have a bone to pick with you what i texted you last night you did and i said remind me on the valley recap to ask a very important question and you did not remind me did i respond and doesn't matter i didn't respond i see that you did not remind me to ask the important question which is why do janet and jason have a grandfather clock in their house?

5:58Oh, I did respond.

5:59Ronnie Karam: I laughed in real life. If anybody is going to have a grandfather clock, it's going to be Janet. Why do they have? I know it's probably like, it's a family. I'm going to say it's Jason's. I think Jason's the type to be like, well, this grandfather clock was passed down for generations, so I just got to have it. I don't think that Janet wants that grandfather clock. You walk in the door to Janet and Jason's house, and directly to the right is a grandfather clock. This is not a grandfather clock house. It's like a two-bedroom house in the valley with a low-hanging hood over the stove. This is not for grandfather clocks.

6:35I thought that was so funny when I saw it. And I apologize that I'm bringing it up in a different recap. But I needed to get it off my chest because otherwise it would eat me alive.

6:43Ronnie Karam: Yeah, there's someone else out there like, how can you not mention the grandfather clock? Do you even watch these shows anymore? It just was so discordant with the rest of their lives. I'm going to say Jason like forced that grandfather clock on them I'm going to go with Janet because Janet seems like a very grandfather clock I mean Janet is a grandfather clock yes totally it's just like constantly but Jason has why is this here people are like it's necessary it's a clock it needs to be here shut it up and then right when you start to relax it's like a dong here's my theory for Jason's first apartment he didn't know what he was doing so his mom came in and said okay i'm going to furnish this apartment for you but the mom put in all like mom's touches which is like furniture that is just like you know mom furniture i say this because i remember my parents did this to my brother's apartment and so like it was like a very nice dining room table but it was like you know more antique-y like it etc and i feel like his mom did that and then he for every apartment since then he just carried the same furniture over and then when they merged households he's like, well, I got to keep the grandfather clock because my mom bought that for me at my first apartment.

7:52I feel like he has carried over furniture energy. Just as you say, Janet has like grandfather clock energy. I also see him as someone who would bring in a grandfather clock from place to place and have attachments.

8:05Ronnie Karam: I think that's Janet's mamaw's clock. We'll get to the bottom of it. But you know what? If you're in a couple where people can't figure out which one of you is the grandfather clock person, you're probably very well matched. Yeah. Like either one of you could be the grandfather clock person at that point. Yeah. Yeah. So good for them. Okay. Back to this show. Okay. So Lake sees Michaels and she's like, do you have some words to say today? And he's like, I have some, I have something to read. Okay. Michaels. Wow. Okay. Great. Michaels coming in. You know, I would think that Michaels would watch this season and be like, you know what?

8:37Ronnie Karam: I'm going to come into this and I'm just going to like try and be nice. I've been kind of an asshole and I've scrimmed at a lot of women this season. I'm going to really come in and just be humble. Instead, he's like, I'm going to wear a choker scarf, and I'm going to read a bitch. I think he thinks he's a little bit more fabulous than he is, unfortunately. I think he thinks So.Gay has a lot more eyeballs than it has. Yeah. All right, everybody. Welcome to the Southern Hospitality Season 4 reunion. I'm your VIP host, Andy Cohen. I'm feeling a little bummed that no one from this crew added me to the group chat.

9:14I don't even know what group chat even means. Does that mean I'm out of touch? I don't know. Good evening, Leva. She's like, hi, Andy. How are you?

9:22Ronnie Karam: Good. Okay, how do we do? Look at the set. I was in tears earlier. It was such an emotional moment for me. Lamar and I literally built this set. It's huge. It's huge for us. It's huge for the city. I would just like to congratulate the city. You are welcome that Leva and Lamar are here. We've changed this place. Thank you so much for also including these mannequins of older gentlemen in time in Bahama. It just really adds some authenticity to this like Republic vibe that we have here. I really appreciate the fact that it smells like bar rot and uncleaned bar in here. Really, really. There were no paper towels in the bathroom.

9:58Ronnie Karam: I mean, it's just like being at Republic. Yeah. Well, all right. Well, we know you're not Joe's mother effing mommy, but did anyone on your staff come to you for advice today? Yeah, a couple of them did. They were like, how can I be a better businesswoman? How can I be more fabulous? How can I open up something on King Street? You know, things like that, you know. Like, I love your mom. Did she give you a mantra for the day? It's like, yeah, like, I'm smart. I show grace. I'm a bad bitch. Okay. That's great. And, yeah, I love her. She's great. Okay, Joe, who planned your outfit today? Chad GPT or Maddie or?

10:37Actually, my suit, like, I was going to pick didn't fit. So I'm wearing Michael's talks from the GLAAD Awards.

10:44Ronnie Karam: Wow. Yeah, well, you were my talks last year for the reunion. So I think this year, I think like every year, we're just going to switch off. I was, was I not the only one who was like, how does Joe fit into Michael's place? I don't know, because isn't Michael's like 10 feet taller than Michael's is like, Michael's is. Yeah, he is huge. We saw him at BravoCon. I'm sure many of you guys saw him. He's a very tall man. He's tall. He's wide. He's like a tall, muscular guy. He's like big. And like Joe's just more like, it's not small, but like, I just would not have thought that those were two people who could easily interchange.

11:19Ronnie Karam: There you go. So, um, then we talked to Maddie. It's 12 years of sobriety year for each step. I'm sure like, yeah, it's my birthday. So they applaud her. And she's going to go pick up a chip later today. Is it that easy? I guess you wouldn't have to prove anything. It's not like show your ID. Give me a blood prick. Yeah. prove it. I feel like you can just go in and be like, hey, I'm in New York. Hey, guys, I don't know any of you, but I've been sober for 12 years. Like, oh, my God, here's the golden chip. I love three things. Maybe I'll go in there. Yeah, get a chip. Get your chip. I should. I've been sober-ish.

11:57Yeah. So Andy's like, all right, that's great, that's great. Mia, hi, you know, I know you went out a little bit with Wes Wilson. Are you going to reach now that you're in town?

12:11Ronnie Karam: Oh, God, absolutely not. Absolutely not. I mean, God, he's got to get married to her at this point. I mean, it's just too big of a deal. He's got to get married to her at this point. Well, Mia, I'd like to congratulate you on finally doing something this season. Fortunately, it was off camera. Okay, let's make a little bit more of an effort next time. All right, Michaels, what is your outfit? I love that Mia has so many controversies with people that she's like had things with off camera. Yeah. West, she had the Shep thing. I mean, the Shep thing was gross. So he was just like grabbing her butt or something in a bar.

12:40Ronnie Karam: Who else? Didn't she hook up with some other Bravo person? Probably. All right. Sorry. I interrupted you for that very uninformative break. It's all good. Take it. Take it. Take it away. So then Andy's asking Michaels about his outfit because it's crazy. It's not crazy. He's just wearing a scarf choker, as I said. And he's like, oh, it's for somebody's funeral. He's like, whose funeral? I'd say a few people. We're going to put a lot of lives to rest. I brought a binder today. Stop it. Stop pulling out the Monique. You know, I normally like Michaels very much, but he's fraying me. You brought a binder.

13:18Ronnie Karam: It's not even original. You're like the third person now to bring a binder. It's color coordinated because I'm gay. It's my favorite part about it. We know. Molly, hi! How tall are your heels tonight? They're tall. Yeah, five inches? Wow. I don't know if you know. I guess you did so little this season that all I have to ask you about is your heels. It doesn't even make any sense. Okay, hey, Justin, did Charlie give you any advice? Yeah, she said shut down the love bombing allegations. Love you, Chuck. Love you, Chuck. Did he get my job? That's more your category than me. He didn't look any different?

13:56He looked a little different, but I couldn't tell why what was... I assumed it was just his hairstyling.

14:02Ronnie Karam: Oh, maybe that was it. He looked different. He also came in different because I think he realized, or maybe read comments or something, that were saying he did nothing this season except make smarmy, disgusting comments about women. And then now he's like, I'm going to change it. I'm going to make a splash of myself by just arguing with women for no reason. And storylines that have nothing to do with me. What a bomb. I think he just was, he didn't have his mustache. I think that's how he looked. He had a mustache? I think all season he had like a little mustache. He did? I think he had like a beard mustache thing.

14:35I think so. I think it was sort of like, instead it was more like 5 o 'clock shadow.

14:39Ronnie Karam: I don't know. I have to go rededicate. So we're checking with Grace Lilly and TJ and Brad and, you know, hi, hi. It's 20 pages of hello. And then we get to Emmy. She's like, um, yeah, hi. Thank you. Thank you for having me here. I'm really good to be here. Well, you look very beautiful. Last time we saw you at a reunion, Will decided at the last minute not to participate. Sounds a lot like a wedding that's coming up. Well, yeah, I mean, he's not here tonight. He's not even in the stage. Okay. I was like, okay, did he give you any advice? Like, don't talk about me. And she's like, well, his only piece of advice was to get on that reunion stage.

15:25I was like, that's rich coming from Will, of all people. The Will who didn't get on the reunion stage. Literally did not get on the stage.

15:31Ronnie Karam: It's also just advice from someone who literally does not care what you're doing. It's like, do you have any advice for me? Well, I mean, get on the stage. You're going to a reunion, right? Go to work. Do you have any advice for me going to work today? I mean, go. Yeah, it's like the most basic, like, I'm not paying attention. I'm drinking coffee and answering text messages from people you don't, I'm not going to show you. So, Andy's like, okay, well, congratulate all of you, but especially Lake, Michaels, and TJ on winning your first GLAAD award. Everyone clap. Everyone's like, so, wow, Michael.

16:05Ronnie Karam: Speaking of, what apps are you banned from? Congrats on excellence in the gay community. Now tell us about the things that you've done wrong. So, he's like, um, Hinge and Tinder. Both? Hinge and Tinder? That's crazy. Yeah. And they're like, why? He's like, um, I never found out. Were you wearing the scarf? It was Molly's fault. Like, it's like, I mean, everyone gets banned on Tinder. I was like, do they? No, they don't. I don't know. I mean, I don't know. And he's like, well, did you try to post nudes or something? He's like, maybe I put like Scandi pictures on my profile. I don't know. I mean, he's like, get like a little speedo pic.

16:46I speak A. Yeah, you just probably have like a really big bulge, you know, like Bob Marley.

16:53Ronnie Karam: Well, Emma, you've been in business in Charleston for over 12 years now. Wow, that's crazy. You went into business the same week that Maddie got sober. How do you feel about that? Do you feel like that's very supportive, Leva? Maddie got sober and you opened a bar. What the hell are you doing, Leva? Is anyone allowed to own space on King Street? That is funny. 12 years, big number. Surprised they didn't talk about that. It's like, yeah, I mean, like, anyone's allowed to own space on King Street. Yeah, I mean, like, we're friendly with everybody. Like, we're a big family. Like, we really try to keep it local.

17:28You know what I mean? Yeah. Very butchic owned. Very butchic. Like Zax Zax. Just like so butchic. It's where you can do your art and have a daiquiri.

17:37Ronnie Karam: Would you rather a Target or Zax Zax? We just want Zax Zax to cover all your needs. Yeah. If you're going to go camping, Zax Zax. Wow. Wow. I'm dying to know. What's the biggest tip each of you have gotten, TJ? We already know yours is Michael's. Anyone else? I'm like, well, I mean, it's like, well, I sold like a$10 ,000 bottle of champagne and then there was like autograt on that. That stands for autogratuity. And then they like tipped on top and then that was probably like a$3 ,500 tip. So they were great. We actually don't care. This is just to tee up the following question, which is, what type of tip did the Wad give you, Joe?

18:16Ronnie Karam: Molly's like, I think he gave her the tip. Yeah, Molly, that was the... She just gave me eggs and bacon actually. A la Francais! Emmy, you said you'd been written up at work once. What was that for? I was like, oh my God, what was it for? I remembered I called the police after and I was traumatized on the bathroom floor. It was no call, no show. Don't you remember no call, no show from last season? No call, no show, no call, no show. And we see the no call, no show. And Michael's like, yeah, no call, no show. So then Andy's like, okay, well, who else here has been written up? And Molly's like, I've been written up once.

18:57girl you've been written up three times while i was a manager so not just once okay three times

19:03Ronnie Karam: yeah three times one for fighting with another bartender and the other for bad reviews i mean come on that was really bad and then um you know like for not showing up for work because of your other job and that was well i was the manager so yeah you've been written up more than once and then michael's like yeah you want to see why you want to see what you want to see a review he pulls out a Yelp review and the Yelp review is like my biggest problem was the bartender parenthesis blonde female she made and placed another drink in front of me and I was like surprised because I didn't tell her that I need another drink and she gave me attitude by saying like I asked you twice if you wanted another drink and you told me yes and she said that in like a very abrasive tone and she clearly left the bad taste in my mouth and like this place is a thumbs down for me yeah but a blonde woman behind the bar that could have been anyone Oh my god, there's a blonde woman in Charleston.

19:56Ronnie Karam: A rude blonde woman behind the bar. Wow. But Michaels does have a full binder and he's going through papers like, you want to see where I wrote you up? Also, I'd like to know about this Yelp reviewer too. Yes, that does sound shitty but also I can also imagine someone going to the bar being like, I didn't order this. Why are you giving this? You literally asked for it twice and you said yes so like this is your drink i never said that i'm going fucking yelp after this and you're gonna go fucking kill yourself you know you're like what the fuck you know yeah yeah yelp yelp reviewers aren't generally the most trustworthy but molly's a goddamn liar anyway so i'm gonna go with the yelp reviewer on this one it's time for a commercial it's time for a crappin's commercial

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22:00Ronnie Karam: So, um, Michaels is like, yeah, that was bad. And Molly goes, yeah, well, I think people in general are a lot harder on women. I was like, okay, that's true. But you've still been written up three times. Yeah. Stop. So then Lake is like, yeah, Jordan's never gotten a bad review, guys. Just so you know, Jordan's like, what? Jordan's never gotten a bad review. Okay, you said they're a harder woman, but Jordan always has good reviews. So I'm like, well, is she blonde? Because people are really hard on blonde women. And it's like, no one has a heart in this world than a blonde woman. I barely know who Molly is, and I definitely don't know who Jordan is.

22:39So we're just going to move on. So when cameras picked up this season, viewers were shocked to learn Molly was fired in the offseason. Viewers from coast to coast were saying, wow, Molly. Molly got Molly fired from Molly. Who fired from where? They were saying it. They said, I can't wait to turn on my favorite program and see Molly back at work doing what she does best, bartending. And then after that, they said, what? This show is Jump the Shark. Molly's not bartending anymore.

23:14Ronnie Karam: I got a comment from my mother from home. It says, Andy, why the F would you put Nancy Grace on your network, but ask her where she got her work from? What an asshole. Wow. Wow. Ghost of viewers wondering. So, how did you go with the theory that Michael's fired you because you knew too much about his relationships? relationships um where is the relationship yeah so she's like well that was just an initial thought okay so you're admitting that that was bullshit it was no apology necessary okay no apology necessary yeah well that was an initial thought and upon kind of discussing it with the other members of republic and kind of comparing my facts i think it just became a it was a little bit more because i wasn't a follower of his okay molly so you're just a liar that's just you're just lying again.

24:09Ronnie Karam: You fucking liar. Apologize for lying, Molly, because this has been a long time that you've let this lie go. And now you're just saying it's because you weren't following him. Is that why you were written up three times too? Is that why the Yelp reviewer wrote that about you as well, Molly? What I also loved is that when she said, because I'm not a follower of his, so I assumed naturally that she was saying like, oh, because I don't just do anything he says. I don't just bow down at the altar of Michael's. And he's like, what do you mean? She goes, I was not an Instagram follower. She's like, I literally didn't follow his Instagram.

24:41Ronnie Karam: No, I thought she was saying, no, not Instagram follower. Like, because someone was like, on Instagram? I think Grace Lilly was like, on Instagram? And she's like, no, not Instagram. I think, but I mean, maybe I took the wrong. That makes more sense because I was like, oh, this is all about being, following on Instagram. And she goes, understood. And she goes, because some people don't understand. I was like, wow. And then I'm realizing now that I'm one of those people. Wow. I mean, maybe I misunderstood. i don't understand a lot one of us didn't understand so molly is not it's just so insane it's just so stupid it's like here's the molly plot oh wow what a shocker molly's story is changing yet again you know it always does and he does this thing because when she's a little sassy when she goes well some people don't understand and it seemed like it was directed towards him and he goes oh he does that thing like rituals and he bobbles his head left and right while he looks at his nose like i'm sassy today i'm with the boss around here i guess i'm only ten times more famous any of you guys.

25:34That's okay. He sassed me all you want. I got a boyfriend now.

25:37Ronnie Karam: I mean, if you were fired just because he didn't like you, he'd be written up, or at least he'd be fired. So we do a thing. Michaels, we got a lot of feedback on social media about the way you spoke to Molly.

25:55And Sympathy Optimal on Reddit said, Michaels should have known better. He's in a position that sets the tone for the staff. how do you respond and also does your scarf feel the same way

26:07Ronnie Karam: and he's like you know my apology still stands that was wrong I take accountability and Molly's like can you look at me when you say that for Christ's sake Molly it's more than you ever do when do you ever apologize for it also literally no you're at the end of like a very long line of people it's like asking someone to like address the person at the end of the iPhone yeah I can barely see you down there Molly you are at the end of the couch he's like well I was looking at everybody so like sorry but like yeah I mean my apology still stands at the end of the day and everything I said on that park bench still stands so we see a flashback to the apology at the park and the next question is Miles you were definitely harsh in your delivery this season we got a lot of response from viewer no from Carter said give me a break Lake, Michaels, I need you to get those emotions in check.

27:01Ronnie Karam: First it was Molly, and now Lake, why are you snapping on your friends like that who just happen to be winning? Every single time you snap. Mia's like, yeah, watching back that summer, the way I wasn't even in the room when you were treating Lake so horrendously, I would never even think about treating my friends the way that you guys treat each other. And he's like, yeah, you don't know our relationship at all. And Lake goes, yeah, we're brother and sister. I'm like, you know what? I like Lake, but I feel like my patience is running out for her a little bit because it's like, I feel like we rode so hard for her when he was being such a dick to her.

27:36And I was like, this is so mean. And then she's going to turn up like, we're like brother and sister. That's okay. If you're going to be brother and sister, then don't come complaining to us about it. Okay.

27:47Ronnie Karam: Yeah. I mean, we just finished doing the Valley talking about Nia always enabling, you know, a shitty man. And, you know, it happens in all different kinds of relationships. And we're seeing it again. It's like, you know, he's a guy who's going to yell and scream if he gets upset because he's a fragile little man. And so now it's like, what do you do? You just enable him and then, you know, you excuse him. You make excuses for him so he doesn't yell at you. But Michaels has a very reasonable response. He goes, yo, we have a very brother-sister relationship. We literally chase each other at each other's apartments with fucking knives.

28:16I'm like, is that a brother-sister relationship? He goes, who chases each other around with knives? He goes, well, my siblings and I did that growing up. Like, we do that together. like it's pretty normal running around with knives and everyone's like what and everyone's

28:30Ronnie Karam: looking at each other like I don't think this is normal my god I mean at least some Menendez bros aimed it at their parents you know geez but also like if you're trying to assuage rumors of you having rage issues like maybe saying no everything's fine it's like a normal thing we just chase each other with knives I'm like hmm not the best yeah not good so Joe's like well Well, I think it's like you're a big guy and like you have a powerful voice and you really, you really do get great suits, especially for gay awards. So thanks for that. But, you know, like I can help you. You know, you got to like soften it sometimes.

29:07Ronnie Karam: Yeah. By the way, they're right. You are going to like the way you look. Yeah. So Michael's is like, I'm learning. And Molly, do you accept this apology? She goes, yes. Oh, okay. You know, we all went through a lot this summer, Andy. You know, I went through a lot. Molly, you didn't do shit. You made a charcuterie. You made the world's biggest charcuterie in the history of Charleston. All you did was struggle for reasons to fight with people that you could never quite come up with. So now you're remaking things up now for this reunion, Molly. But again, I have to say this many times. I'm being really hard on Molly today.

29:43Ronnie Karam: But I do love seeing effort. And God knows this girl tries very hard. So I'll give her that. She is trying very hard. She's just excited to be there. I still will always remember at BravoCon how she stood outside the big building and they had pictures of everyone there up on the side of the building. And she's at those steps that went down to the street. And she stood there in this big purple gown. Everyone's dressed like whatever, like convention goers. And she's in this big purple gown, hair blown out. No one knew who she was because we'd already forgotten who Molly was. And I was like, that girl, I think she's on Southern Hospitality.

30:17I just remember she was talking to someone. and she goes, wait, wait, I just want to see my face up there. Because I've just never seen my face up there. It's just really cool.

30:26Ronnie Karam: Oh, so she was up there. I thought you were going to say she was the only one not on there. No, she was up there. She was standing at the edge of the steps. She was having this moment like, this could be it. I want to see myself. Let me look at myself on the side of that building. I would do that. Oh, you know, not only would I do it, I would take 10 pictures. 100%. Like, you know how Times Square is all just electronic now? There's no actual billboards or whatever. I was like, we've got to be able to hack into this somehow. I know. I know there will come a day when we'll put ourselves up there.

30:56No, what's going to happen is we'll get a billboard on Times Square and then we'll go to take our selfie with it. And when we do it, it'll be like, oh, template couldn't load. Yeah, exactly. Dysfunction. Page not found. Okay.

31:09Ronnie Karam: So then we go to Andy. He's like, we'll leave it there. Hopefully Molly as well. Do we have to bring Molly back? Seriously. Okay, my mom really does hate you, Nancy Grace. Okay, I want to talk about Justin, first class cam on Twitter. Is that like a cam? This is a cam girl. You know it is. Because he has like an OnlyFans, right? Yeah, so you know this is some girl, if you like clicked on this, it would be, you know. First class cam, all the crap. Yeah, you shouldn't click on it around your nieces. On Twitter says, Justin is good looking and has a great sense of humor. This is not real. So this has to be a bot.

31:48Ronnie Karam: No one said this who watches this show. It's got to be. Wow, Justin, good looking and a sense of humor. He's honest and not afraid to be himself. He's like, yeah, that's TJ's burner right there. It's like, all right, Leva, what qualities does Justin have that you wish Joe had more of? What the fuck? What kind of question is that? She's like, oh, that's so awful. And I'm very ready to answer that. Well, I think Joe and Justin are equally wonderful. I think there's a confidence in Justin that I wish maybe Joe had more of just like wait what I was confident until just this moment in what way I was very confident about my bar restaurant tennis club golf bowling alley car wash that I wanted to open with you like did you not know that like I love love and that like weddings were like and I'm like really confident about that yeah Justin just like gives less of a fuck and like I wish like he gave less of a fuck.

32:46Ronnie Karam: Does that make sense? Am I allowed to say that? I guess what I'm trying to say, what I need from Joe is that if he's interested in doing something, I need him to act like he gives a fuck. But I also want him to not give a fuck. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, I really wish that Joe would be less people-pleasing. Really? Because Joe went off and did whatever he wanted and didn't please you, and now you're pissed and are going to punish him for the next five years. So what are you talking about? Well, I mean, I think that she's basically just saying like, Joe, we need you to give a fuck about your career, but you need to just chill out on what you think people think of you as, like a celebrity.

33:22Just do the job. I'm assuming. I don't want to put words in Lovett's mouth.

33:25Ronnie Karam: I think it's a nice way of saying, grow the fuck up. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Be more mature. Andy's like, question! Joe has asked you to go into business with him for years. Did you consider him when you were opening a new establishment? Yeah, we had a serious talk about a rooftop. So we did it. Me and Lamar did. Yeah. And he's like, well, why didn't you decide to do something with him? And she's like, well, Joe had a salary. He was given a ton of autonomy to do it. But he was given this money and then he would just disappear. And then I'd be like, Joe, you have to come back. And then Joe wouldn't come back.

34:01Ronnie Karam: And it's like bad. You have to come back. If you're at a restaurant, you have to come back. First it was like, there was their birthday month. And then it was like, Maddie was sick. And then it was like, I'm not working with the business of Maddie. And I mean, it's just been like two years. And after a while, it's like, we don't know if Joey even wants to be here at all. You know? And he's like, well, yeah, I want to grow. Listen, I want to graduate from like being Joey Bottles. I want to be Joey Rooftop, you know? And like, I don't want to always be like the guy that's like hosting the party.

34:26I'm like so dedicated to this that now I only stay at Red Roof Inns. I'm like really into this. And I want to evolve and be a businessman too. And like looking back on our meetings, I wasn't mentally there. And I just feel like since last summer, I've like come a long way.

34:40Ronnie Karam: Like a long way. since last summer. You showed up at work for two months in a row and then asked for a business job. That's not how it works. If you want to graduate from being Joey Bottles, then you have to, you graduate. Someone doesn't just hand you the diploma, babe. He's always declaring that he's come a long way. Like, it's like, I've decided I've come a long way. It's like, based on what? I said it. Because I said it. Yeah, I said it. Did I say I came a short way? Okay, there. Notice that took me longer to get here today because that took a long way. Yeah, but like when you open a business with someone like Joe, like I'm not just like asking you to clock in.

35:17Ronnie Karam: You just have to show up. Like it's not like Lamar and I are like, it's not like whether we ask you to come. You just have to like come, you know? And then I put you on salary and you're just kind of like, I mean, I can't find where you are. I mean, that to me is like a red flag, Joe. It's a red flag. Well, I've come a long way with my flags. Yeah. I just don't even have flags. You just have holes in the ground. You didn't even really know what you were golfing towards. but I have flags out it's a long way it's a really long way well do you have any new business plans on the horizon? yeah so like right now I'm starting my own concierge travel company in Charleston it's called Come a Long Way yeah it's going really well it's actually called King Street Concierge but like it's on joebradley.com which is actually being hosted by Long Way Services and that's using DreamHost but the dream has come a long way so and we see josiebradley.com he's like yeah it's like kind of what i've been doing the past few years like concierge travel so like i'm gonna like travel i'm gonna like plan people's trips like if they go on a trip i'm gonna be like you should go on a trip they're gonna be like yeah i'm gonna be like you should come to like charleston yeah you should go to republic like yeah so it's like all focused on like republic so like we're gonna send people to dinner republic and then like for drinks they can go to republic or if they like want to go sightseeing they can see Republic.

36:38Ronnie Karam: What kind of travel service are you doing that revolves around Leva's properties? This doesn't make any sense. Do you like Bubbles? Then I come to Bubbles and Branch or Bubbles and Bourbon. Hey, question. Do you like Dax Shepard? Well, then maybe you should come to Zax Dax because I think it'd be really good for you. Things like that. Yeah, it's like travel, but it's focused on all seven of our properties, none of which are hotels. We're travel destinations. I know. And Love is like, yeah, it's brilliant. It's fun. It allows him to have boundaries. And it keeps him in the family. I think it's a great place for him to make his money.

37:15Yeah, I'm also starting a concert series with our new location, On Air. And I'm hoping to do two or three big concerts a year. And I don't want to brag, but... Well, he booked Jesse Solomon and he's coming in for a night. Wow, huge concerts. It's basically Willie Nelson. You're killing it. And he goes, oh, Andy. I do love Andy. these lower rent reunions because he's just so funny. He's like, was that a hard book?

37:41Ronnie Karam: Jesse Solomon, wow, was that rough? And Joe goes, no, he reached out to me. And Justin goes, congrats, Joe. You landed Solomon. Wow. Wow. You answered your phone with Solomon called. Congrats. Oh, my God. Oh, wow. Well, Clear Republic the crew has drama that runs deeper than the bed of Joe Bradley's truck. Okay, so now we go into... Oh, this is so good. And the spark that ignited all that drama was a shocking revelation, which, for one person here, sucked harder than a back-alley PJ. Brad's like, oh, damn. Maddie, positively uncensored from New Jersey. Oh, that's the person. I thought I was saying that Maddie was positively uncensored.

38:34Maddie, this person says, how can you accept that Joe is in the group chat making sabotage plans to sabotage your relationship with Trevor? Don't you feel manipulated by him? Well, okay. Here's my thing. Joe is very dumb. Have you seen him trying to write a business proposal? He's still talking about rooftops. So I knew he wasn't really that active in the conspiracy. And I know for a fact that he was kicked out of it when we were in Miami because he showed it to me. And then everyone was, we were really upset. And then when I asked Brad and TJ about at the reunion, they were like, no, no, Joe had nothing to do with this.

39:08Ronnie Karam: Yeah. And so we see a flashback of Brad saying, Joe had nothing to do with this. And she's like, and that made me be like, okay, then I've got the facts right. And Joe's like, yeah, the initial group chat, like I was there. Like, of course I was excited about Trevor cheating. You know, we all thought he cheated. We're so excited. I was like, yes, Trevor cheated. Yeah. But you know, like, I didn't know what Brad was talking about. You know, I mean, it's like, yeah, but like I mean he did cheat right he did cheat at some point though like maybe he didn't cheat that time but like he still cheated at some point right Grace Lee's like I didn't think so she was like I mean not with Sammy like not with the paid actress like paid actress and so they're like yeah you know and Brad goes I mean you think I would spend any kind of money is laughable on Sam like she literally got up there and was like had cue cards like Trevor came in and he touched my friend Trevor kissed me in the street or whatever.

40:02Ronnie Karam: And he's like, yeah, I wouldn't spend that money. And they're like, you would pay I think she got paid in like workouts or something. Yeah. So Mia's like, well, I mean, Trevor has cheated on Maddie before. What's the big deal? So like it was a lie then, but it wasn't a lie before. Yeah, but she had already forgiven Trevor for that and gotten back together with him. And then you guys made up another time so that she would break up with him again, Mia. Like, come on. It really is fucked up. Mia can't play dumb because Mia is one person that's not an idiot. Yeah. Come on, Mia. Do you think your relationship with Joe started because of a lie?

40:33Well, I don't know. I don't know. Emmy's like, well, you broke up with him because of a lie and then you were single. And Mike goes, well, it's more so like the show was airing and it was like embarrassing to watch back.

40:43Ronnie Karam: But like, do you feel like you have fallen at Joe's arms? And could you have done that at Republic? Because that would have like kept it more in the family, which Lamar and I had to talk about it. We would have really appreciated that. Yeah, we were actually thinking if open up a new space called in Joe's arms, but Joe's not gonna be part of it. Except the restaurant's just not there once you go. I've come a long way. I just put it on Google Maps. It's like pop-up locations, but then once you arrive, it's not there because it's completely undependable. Yeah, but when you try to find out how long it takes to drive there, it just says it's a long way.

41:19Ronnie Karam: Then you get there and you get a t-shirt and it says I've come a long way. Yeah, it's on a rooftop.

41:28Ronnie Karam: Um, so... Maddie is... Yeah, Michael's is like, yeah, like, literally, I watched her live out of her car for, like, three weeks. That was terrible for her. And Maddie's like, yeah, but, like, guys, like, Joe's a good partner regardless. And I want what I have with Joe for everyone here. And Justin goes, yeah, I don't know if I want that. Shut up, Justin. What is Justin coming in for and making all these snotty little comments on the side? Justin, you didn't earn this, okay? Sit down. Yeah. Yeah, so Maddie's like, well, I don't think Trevor and I were going to work out in the first place. So I just wanted to make that decision myself in my own time versus going through the turmoil that I went through.

42:01Okay, well, TJ and Brad, you recently went on a podcast whose name shall not be mentioned and said Joe's hands are dirty when it comes to the group text about the Trevor lie. So what is the truth? Yeah, like, well, wait, like I always wash hands. You see like the thing in the bathroom that says employees must wash hands. Like they're so stupid. Like, why don't you read something? Brad's like, the knowledge of knowing I got this show Meaning, he was aware that this was happening He didn't say anything The knowledge of knowing So wait, knowing

42:30Ronnie Karam: That's our next restaurant Knowledge of knowing So wait, knowing about your lies And your conspiracy And he's like, no, no, no, let me speak It was knowing that knowledge You were a part of it Just as much as Emmy and Will were Okay, so Bradley, which is it? Because Bradley, you know, Bradley's had an easy season because Emmy is legit in the wrong against Bradley. Okay, so Bradley's had a very easy season because he's been able to be like, no, Maddie's or Emmy is so wrong about this thing, which he's correct. But Bradley is also a fucking liar. And Bradley did do this thing. And Bradley did come on the reunion to say Joe had nothing to do with it.

43:09Ronnie Karam: And Brad did kick him out of the group chat. So which is it? I mean, were you lying then? Are you lying now, sir? because you were lying at some point. Well, I think we all can agree that knowledge is knowing and knowing is knowledge. Knowing that knowledge. Knowing that knowledge. The knowledge of knowing. It's almost turning into Sondheim a little bit. Every moment is a moment for the present moment. So Maddie's like, it doesn't matter, okay? I came to these people over and over again asking, is this true? And they also said it was true. And that respect that we were friends, whatever. And Lake's like, yo, look at that little vein popping out of her head.

43:42Whose vein? was the rumor the real person that you broke up with the real reason why you broke up with Trevor and she's like Andy no stop it makes me feel and he's like oh okay I'll do the bobblehead like okay then okay

43:55Ronnie Karam: I was like he's a piece of shit okay there's like plenty of reasons you broke up with that guy yeah yeah and man it's like let me finish you guys god it's like I just feel like that you only wanted to be my friend because you like had this guilt and like at any point you could have said something but like instead I had to find out from Emmy four hours before the reunion. And it's like, we broke up primarily because of those arguments, you know? Like, I just, I couldn't believe him. Yeah, he does some, like, pretty shitty things. He's like a piece of shit. Yeah, but of course you say that, Joe.

44:23Ronnie Karam: You're like his number one hater. Like, yeah, well, everyone says that. Like, the whole town does. Like, knowledge is knowing, right? Okay, and like, the whole world thinks that of him. Sorry. And Brad's like, there's a video of that girl grabbing his dick in the street. That's not appropriate. It's just, yeah, because you told her to do it. It's knowledge of knowing, you know what I'm saying? It's like, no, no one told her to do anything. I didn't tell her to do shit. She's like, girl, I read 30 pages of the group chat. Yes, you did. No one told her to do shit. No one told her to do shit. I just like, I would love it if this was the last time I heard that guy's name.

44:53Ronnie Karam: Yeah, you will. But you're never going to hear the end of it because your relationship started this way, in this shitty way. And when you break up, it's still going to have something to do with this. 20 years later, even. You don't understand. This is a woman that wants to hear a family with. Okay. Like, I'm like really serious about it right now. I've come a long way with this. So like, I just don't want to. Yeah, he wants to, but he's a fucking liar. And at some point she's going to be like, yeah, I had like this guy that I really loved. And you guys all tricked me. And I've never really been that into you, Joe.

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47:27Well, Maddie, a lot of viewers commented on you growing over Trevor. fancy face on Twitter said, I'm re-watching episode two of the season, watching Brad and Maddie talk about Trevor. It's funny not for Maddie's feelings, but more so because Joe is lurking in the background. She's expressing how much she loves Trevor. How do you sit with the level of emotion that Maddie still has surrounding Trevor, Joe?

47:51Ronnie Karam: It's not about Trevor, Andy. Okay. And Justin's like, feels like it is. Justin, you just got here. Hey, for the amount of times I had to see that motherfucker's name in the comments. People like talking like that. She starts like feeling it like that's like an insecurity for me. But then I wake up and I realize that like she doesn't give a fuck about him. She loves me. The man in Michael's jacket. So Maddie's like whatever. Like it's not about Trevor. Okay. And Joe's like well I'm not a jealous person but like you hear it over and over again. Okay. What am I supposed to know? Okay. Who here thinks Maddie's not over Trevor?

48:28Ronnie Karam: Anyone? Justin's like well I get that vibe and I see you talking about it and kind of turns me on. Michael's like, of course it's you. And Emmy's like, you don't even know her. Justin's like, yeah, it's just my opinion on it. I mean, it's easy to admit that you have feelings. No, no. You're not even here, Justin. I don't know what your issue is with me, Justin. I'm sorry I'm not in your vanilla villa chat. Vanilla villa? And he's like, what? And Lava's like, what the fuck is vanilla villa? And Emmy's like, oh, it's the group chat. It's on the other side. The other villa chat. And it's called Vanilla Villa.

49:01Ronnie Karam: I mean, it's like, I don't know. I named it. I know. I'm not allowed to. Will said I should not comment on Vanilla Villa. They told me to change it. They didn't really like the name White People Warehouse. So, there's one with Vanilla Villa. I was going to go for scared in the bathroom for my life. So, Joe is like, well, I think the fact that Joe feels insecure about it says something about it. So, you know, but. he's like you're getting really defensive dude yeah you're getting really defensive yeah so then Justin's like yeah why does Joe feel insecure about it and Maddie's like okay you know what I'm defensive because I've had to fight for myself and it's not been believed and he's like yeah he's constantly has to hear about Maddie's ex it's a lot TJ's like well Maddie what do you need for us to drop this and move on maybe drop it and move on instead of everybody bringing it up every time she's on the screen like seriously I love that she didn't bring it up They brought it up.

49:58Ronnie Karam: She's like, oh, God, we're talking about this again. What do you need for us to drop this? To fucking drop it. How many carpets can I vacuum for you to drop this? Yeah. Because I can do a lot. If you're going to drop this, could you drop it on my rug? I need something to vacuum. She's like, okay, I forgive, but I don't forget. Okay. Mia's like, okay, well, that doesn't seem very forgiving. Okay, Maddie, I am curious. And I was like, no, I wasn't in the group chat. Okay, I wasn't. Okay, Maddie, please. I don't like it when you put your hand in my face I'm trying to tell you that but I'm curious if you've reached out to Trevor since finding out that he didn't cheat on you no no and I have no idea what he's doing in his life so then Emmy's like oh yeah everybody else does I love it and he's like he reached out to me and she goes what and Michael's like yeah and I saw him at a restaurant in Charleston and they're like yeah he got a new car yeah he moved to France he moved to France yeah he's got 10 children 10 children oh he runs a community theater now what of mimes it is France after all so joe is like is he doing pedicabs in french and i mean no he just wanted i thought that was so funny is he doing pedicabs in france he's like and because he just wanted to be freed of the false cheating rumor allegations yeah nothing says guilt like innocent until like this guy you have to move to france to france avoid the allegations you of cheating that means it was a bit too real sorry but it's also with his parents because they're like yeah he went to france with his parents.

51:22Ronnie Karam: He had to leave the country to be with his to get away from all the alligators. I'm sure his parents were like, we're going to France. You want to come? He's like, fuck yeah, I do. I drive people around on a bike. Yes, I want to come. I can't imagine this guy being in France. First of all, I apologize already to France for this guy. I just can't imagine him just engaging with French people. They're just probably like, ugh. The French are like, why did we give them statue trying to encourage them to hold their arm up. Please put your arm down. I know, seriously. We're exploring the wrong things.

51:58Ronnie Karam: So, yeah, he left the country, and Maddie's like, oh my god, I would too after what you guys put him through. Okay, I would leave the country too. And so, and he's like, okay, Connor, Connor from Connor's Swanner says, Maddie, you never actually apologized to Brad for starting the blowjob rumor in the alleyway. Is that true and uh maddie's like well i mean look i saw you with a girl that wasn't your girlfriend in the back alley of republic and okay it was inappropriate exchange so i went to the girl that you went on two dates at with at the time and i said yes so is my girlfriend or a girl i went on two dates with and she's like kayla and so we see kayla and she came up to me republic and asked me a feel on brad and like usually like i'll lay it out there so i was like protect your heart and that's all i said like you know i never told her about what i saw or anything like that say but there was nothing to see we were walking i mean you were a single man like it's okay you can get blow jobs i mean i know it's okay i would just admit it yeah but we had this conversation with sir wieners and you were like you're right i was back there with someone that wasn't my girlfriend okay so i think the point is he's waiting for an apology and it doesn't seem like that's gonna happen but i never lied he's like but you just you just admitted that you saw me back there and you never said, but you never said, then you jump to the dumpster and you're saying, oh, there's a blowjob.

53:22It's a lot different than just seeing someone back there. Blowjob is different from seeing you walking with someone.

53:27Ronnie Karam: Well, she did say an inappropriate exchange. Brad's like, okay, well then inappropriate. So what is it then, Maddie? It was sexual. I think she's trying to compromise. Like, okay, the offensive thing that Bradley heard was blowjob. So how can we make that less offensive? But Andy is now mad at Maddie because Maddie has sort of sassed Andy off and basically told him to shut up once or twice. So he's like, Maddie, it does seem like you're someone who does expect apologies from your friends, okay? And Maddie's like, yeah, but I can tell you I only apologize if I'm lying. I never lied, Andy. He's like, uh, okay.

54:01Ronnie Karam: But you are lying. He's like, no, I take accountability where it's needed. Yeah, I mean, I don't know. It's hard to know without video evidence, but I've always believed that Brad was fucking around with some girl by the alley, but I think it's because I'm a guy. And I'm a gay guy. So like getting a blowjob in an alley is not that foreign of a concept. But I remember the context of this was that like there at that time, this was, this was season one, right? Yeah. And this was before there was the lie about Trevor. This was when Trevor was actively cheating on her. And they were like, and they were saying like, Trevor's like, not going to be good.

54:34So it felt like Maddie was retaliating. Like you don't like, like, okay, now you're going to see what it's like when someone talks about you and your personal life. Oh,

54:41Ronnie Karam: I didn't remember it being a retaliation. I remember it being the other way around. I mean, don't trust my brain too much. It was a long time ago, but I thought that it was Maddie just making a comment like, oh my God, you guys, Bradley was getting a blowjob in the alley. I didn't even remember it being like, whoa, you guys, Bradley was. I thought it was just like a ha ha. Bradley was getting some blowjob in an alley. He's like, why would you say that? I have a girlfriend. She's like, oh, sorry, but you were getting a blowjob in the alley. That's how I remember it. And then Bradley retaliated by being like, oh, really?

55:14Ronnie Karam: You're going to say that about me? then I'll say that Trevor was cheating and fuck up your relationship. Yeah, it was many years ago. But if someone wants to rewatch that and report back, let us know. But as I recall, I remember thinking Bradley did get a blowjob in the alley. I believe that. And I also believe that Trevor was cheating. I believe both of them. Yeah, everyone could be right. Everyone could be right. Yeah, I believe both of them in a situation. Well, here's one thing we do know that's happened since season one. We've come a long way. We've come a long way. We're softer. We're softer.

55:43We're softer now.

55:44Ronnie Karam: So Andy asked Joe If Maddie's issues with Brad and TJ Affected his friendship with the guys And he's like I mean I'd be lying if I said no And Maddie's like yeah but you have your own issues Joe And Brad's like what are your issues Joe then And Justin's like can I phrase a viewpoint here Because like Joe's voiced it to me That there's like a layer of separation Between him and being friends with me and TJ Because there's an issue with Maddie And TJ and Brad I'm so sick of women keeping men apart yeah we see un-aired footage Joe hanging out with the guys he's like I should not feel guilty about hanging out with my guy friends especially on a rooftop my favorite place and Justin's like no you shouldn't Brad's like do you feel guilty on our end or more or less with your girl I just want her to be like Joe go get like drinks with the guys but like it's almost like she has this resentment if I do that I'm like yeah I don't think it's because of the guys it's because you're always doing that and you're not there for when she needs you.

56:44Ronnie Karam: Is it that she has resentment for you going out with guys or that you're going out? Is it going out and drinking or is it going out drinking with these specific people? It sounds like you're kind of saying that to get the pity from the guys and be like, yeah, what a bitch. So you'll have someone on your side, but I wish they clarified that. I don't think that she cares if you're hanging out with Brad and TJ. I think she cares that you're not doing your work and you're not being ambitious and you're going out. Yeah. Right. We've heard her bitch all season that he's going out too much instead of working.

57:14Ronnie Karam: I'm just trying to think. I'm like, no, I just did this because I was like, I love how I'm like, your, your, your answer telling, are trying to explain things to you, Joe. well this is joe i mean it is kind of exhausting on this show because sometimes you know and we talk about it a lot we're so much older than the cast that it's just like i feel like constantly nagging but that's a dirt pod because you didn't do that why didn't you do this and why didn't you call into work and you should have gotten written up young lady and you know i feel like the end like i'm just tired i feel like a mom who needs a day off yeah so justin says like i think the reason that we don't hang out is I think that Maddie, you have a hold on Joe, and you limit him to hanging out with us.

57:54And everyone's like, oh! And Mia's like, that might be true.

57:57Ronnie Karam: Well, yeah, Mia, because you're anti-Maddie in everything that happens today, you know? And Justin's like, well, I think it's the truth. And Maddie's like, oh my god, if you think I can control Joe Bradley, you guys are insane. Like, I haven't even seen, like, I've never seen you guys hanging out outside, unless it's at the door at Republic. If you guys think I can control Joe Bradley, that is absolutely insane. Joe, get the car. We're going somewhere. Oh, okay, guys. I gotta go. Sorry. Bad news. Lost the car. Joe! So, Justin's like, yeah, I think you can control him. I was like, nobody can control him.

58:31Ronnie Karam: Yeah, but, like, that was the whole narrative. She's like, you need to seek help, okay? I mean, if you saw our fights this summer, and Justin goes, seek help in what sense? With your computer. I think it's absolutely the truth. I think it's worth a conversation. Joe's like, how do you get to the point where we can move forward and communicate? Well, that's up to you. You say that you support my business, but you never have unless there's a camera there. And there's plenty of events I've done around the city, and I've traveled out of town and seen you DJ with that cameras multiple times. And I don't feel like it's reciprocated when it comes to you and Joe.

59:07Ronnie Karam: And, like, every month I have a second Sunday for the past 16 months, and you guys have never come to support. And, like, you know, you say you are, but then three or four times in a row you just forget and you don't show up. And in my head, I'm like, is that because Maddie's telling Joe not to go? The hot dog conspiracy has entered the chat. So TJ is like, oh, is that your own decision? I'm forgetting that it's the second Sunday of every fucking month. Why haven't you come to my hot dog stand more? So Joe is like, okay, it's more me being a piece of shit. I'm forgetting it has nothing to do with horror.

59:39So like, get that out of your head. Like, I feel really bad about not coming to the second Sunday. I feel really bad that I have not turned my entire calendar and schedule over to being there to witness you selling hot dogs.

59:52Ronnie Karam: It's different because second Sunday, is it the second? Is it a Sunday that's the second? Because Sundays aren't always the second. It's really hard to keep track of. Well, I'm trying to eat better, so I'm not trying to have two Sundays. Maddie's like, okay, well, I support you and your business, and you're right. I haven't been supportive, and I'll come more. So, okay. Because it's either been I've been out of town or I live 45 minutes away. I'll just let that hang out there. I live 45 minutes away. So it'd be me having to drive 45 minutes to eat a fucking hot dog. But anyway, yeah, I'll do it.

1:00:23It's a poor excuse, even though it's a really good one. If you really think about it, 45 minutes, just let that sink in a little bit longer. And I'll just like, I'll try to show up and support your business, your hot dogs.

1:00:31Ronnie Karam: Hey, it's me, Grace Lee. I got to pee. I got to pee. I'm here too. Oh, my God. God. Why are we still talking about everybody else? I'm going to go pee. when I come back I want to talk about hula hooping alright we're gonna take a break oh my god when can I leave this thing so now they take a break and Maddie's telling her I'm like oh my god like I feel like I'm the only one talking and like I'm popping the fuck off but like everyone talks shit and then they get face to face and they're silent and it's like I'm the only person not silent I mean even Joe Bradley's the worst of it he talks so much shit and then he's just like a people pleaser in person it's crazy you need to be like a man you need to talk more Joe he's like yeah well no I had a cop mouth and I literally couldn't formulate sentences so if I started attacking them I felt like we were never going to move forward in our friendship even if Brad was right next to me and I said paid actress and he paid an actress, he definitely paid her in workouts remember that part?

1:01:24That was right before the cotton mouth set in so it was a really good moment right before it got really dry in my mouth

1:01:28Ronnie Karam: and she's like, yeah, well I'm sticking up for myself yeah, you're doing really good this is a stark difference from Amanda and Wes I'll tell you that much so in another dressing room, TJ's like there's like some sort of controller like power. She has like a power. And Justin's like, yeah, I don't know how, I don't like how she didn't apologize to you, Brad, about that. That sexual encounter in the alley, that's crazy. It's like, yeah, she wants to only take accountability. She wants to take accountability what she so chooses to and not for actually what she's done wrong. And if anything, I was like single to their point.

1:02:04Ronnie Karam: So I just, so I would just own it. Like it's fucked up. Yeah. Yeah. Because if you're a guy and it's like If you get your dick sucked it's like cool I'm always like yeah I mean Since when is it bad for a guy to get his dick sucked in the alley Like who cares Yeah I'm telling people I got my dick sucked Like that's what I'm doing you know Putting it on my OnlyFans So everybody gets back to the stage Alright well whenever Grace Lilly shows up A wavy baby attitude is always in the cards But this year Grace opened up About personal struggles And even a tarot reading couldn't have predicted that Grace, you're blowing up with Maddie about the girls, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

1:02:45Ronnie Karam: We did a poll on Watch What Happens Live about who was a better friend, and everybody voted for Maddie. Don't you agree? She's like, you know, like, obviously, but I don't know, like, who votes? I mean, who needs it? You know what I mean? I mean, if the country's so free, then why do I have to pay for things? That's my question. You know, even the other day I went to the store and I got some water and they asked for money. And I was like, water comes from God. Ask God to pay for it. And then I left and they sent the police after me. What am I supposed to do about it? Well, here's a question. Why did you make a joke that Maddie pegs Joe?

1:03:24Oh, I was just frustrated with Maddie, you know. And I don't know. I went out shopping and everything. And I bought this like really cute dress and it was expensive heels. So kind of hurt my feelings a bit that she didn't tell me it was a pajama party. So I don't know. It's not really an excuse, and I do apologize, and I take full accountability for saying that Joe takes a dildo up his ass.

1:03:43Ronnie Karam: Okay, yeah, I understand. I still think you look cute that night, Grace Lily. It's like, yeah, well, it wasn't a very expensive dress. I mean, it was just like$250. I mean, it wasn't a pajama dress, though. That's the thing, you know? Because if I knew it was a pajama dress, I would have worn pajamas to the party, but I didn't know. I didn't know. You're a really shitty friend for not letting me know. Okay, you just got over that, Grace Lily. Come back. Oh, yeah. Okay. Were we talking back again? So now Andy starts talking about Grace's journey to sobriety and compliments her for being brave and vulnerable, for sharing it and everything.

1:04:21And it becomes more of a serious segment. I will say this is definitely the most kind of like present. It feels like Grace Lee's been at one of these reunions or even on the show. She's like more like just like a normal lady just talking as opposed to like crazy. and she talks about going to group therapy, and she's trying to do it on her own, and everyone's like, no, you should go to group therapy.

1:04:45Ronnie Karam: Yeah, you can't do it on your own. You know it's not at the serious point yet when someone's like, yeah, I just decided to recover on my own. It's like, no. You never know. That doesn't work. Yeah, like she's going to AA, but she's not doing any group stuff yet. Which isn't really doing it on her own, so I'm wondering if she tacked that on. Because when she said no, everyone's like, no, you can't do it on your own. she's like, well, I mean, I'm doing the AA thing. Well, okay, well, that's not doing it on your own. And so she's going to therapy and she's like, I'm getting more health than ever before.

1:05:16Ronnie Karam: And they don't seem to be buying it. Everyone's kind of looking at their shoes. And Love is like, well, I mean, please continue because it's like not an alone journey. And like, I mean, please find a group of people that you can fall on because like, you know, as a person who works in a bar, like you really need someone to fall on literally. I mean, God, people fall down a lot. Listen. So, yeah, especially if you're around us. Lamar and I had a conversation. We do not want to get sued. Here's our thing. This is going to be a hard journey. Doing it alone is very, very difficult. So my recommendation is to focus on your sobriety while doing activities in Zachary's Zachary's.

1:05:54I want you to get hypnotized by alcoholic drinks swirling around for hours on end.

1:06:00Ronnie Karam: I just think it's really important for childish minds to be surrounded by addictive substances that appeal to children. So come read cards at Zachary's Daiquiri's and maybe you'll be around like a Buzzy Bee, you know, Jesus revival, which is a really good pina colada. So to remind everyone, come to Zachary's Daiquiri's for Daiquiri's and also an art show and also art making and also tarot card reading. Next time you're at AA Maybe you could suggest that they do an event At Zachary's Zachary's It's a good place We've really loosened our regulations on tennis shoes I know you're into AA But have you considered ZD's?

1:06:43ZD, it's my favorite pasta

1:06:45Ronnie Karam: Just tell AA that Zach's Dax also has AA Which is double appetizers at happy hour That should come by Really supportive of you So Andy's like, okay, I want to talk about your arrest. In December, you were arrested on harassment charge after your ex-boyfriend reported you to authorities and alleged that you had attempted to gain access to his apartment and gaining custody of a cat that the two of you shared. You stole a cat. You stole a cat. Was this the thing that we saw last season when she snuck into the house and got the cat and ran out? Yeah, I think so. That she came and. Oh, wait, was it that?

1:07:23That was her cat. Yeah, we did see that on camera.

1:07:27Ronnie Karam: She went and took the cat back. Maybe there was another cat. The cat came back the very next day. It's the old saying. You stalked him in pursuit of gaining custody of a cat that you shared together. I love this. It's a very serious thing. You're right. That was on camera. It's a very serious thing, but I do kind of love this. Well, yeah. Listen, if you're going to do drunken antics, do them well. And this is like Luanne. You're stalking me. You're stalking me. I don't love you. I just want your cat. That was a very expensive cat. That was a nice cat from what I remember. Good for her. And she's like, well, I can tell you this.

1:08:00Ronnie Karam: My attorney feels very, very confident that I will not be convicted of anything. My attorney also agrees water should be free. And so then he's like, okay. And then in March, TMZ reported that you were pulled over in December and you're in position of 12 Klonopin pills and were obtained without a prescription. that they were obtained without a prescription. What's the status of that? That's going to be dropped. That will be dropped. Take it from a lawyer, me, take it from a lawyer who could have known to wear pajamas today. That is going to be dropped. We wish you the best, and I'm just reading here that your legal counsel is Will.

1:08:42So, good for you.

1:08:43Ronnie Karam: You know what? I'm healthier. I'm happier. I'm hula-ier. I've never done more hula hoops in a row in my life. Even my mom said she was holding a little dog when she said dog peed on her a little bit. And I was like, mom, I told you to wear a napkin on your shirt. And she said, pee goes through napkins. I was like, then where is she? She said, pee goes through sheets too. I said, get rid of the dog, mom. And then my mom started crying. It was really awkward, Maddie. You really should have thought better before you talked to my mama like that. Wow. So does anyone want to have an awkward transition out of Grace Lily is struggling with sobriety and hoping to beat the charges against her by the lock.

1:09:22Because here comes one. Speaking of living authentically, TJ and Michael's hooking up while watching the Housewives of Salt Lake City was definitely a moment.

1:09:31Ronnie Karam: Man, the husbands on Salt Lake City can't even get boners, but you two did. So did the Housewives make you horny? No, but the season had just started airing. We were already behind because we were filming at the same time. So we had to multitask. that's so funny like oh my god we're behind fuck me for the first time let's just have the show on yeah we'll just look here what happens yeah and he's like um i think it's like when you like put music on in the background you know something like that and they're like housewives is your music they just both look at her and they're like yeah one of the first guys i hooked up with put on law and order svu and it was like it would be like svu would be like hooking up in here dun dun um I'm not even joking.

1:10:16Oh, shit.

1:10:16Ronnie Karam: At least get me some criminal intent. That mob one with Christopher Maloney. Well, you know, Mariska Hargitay. She's in a play right next to where I'm staying. She's doing a one-woman show called Every Brilliant Thing or something. And she's got tons of people going like, Oh, my God, Mariska Hargitay. That was amazing. What a delight. Like, really? I mean, I like Mariska, but I can't imagine her in a one-woman show. Well, maybe she should tell her dad not to charge so much for plants at his nursery in West Hollywood. How about that? Oh, really? You know Mickey Hargitay's nursery? I didn't know that.

1:10:53Yeah. So that's her dad. And it's a nursery. And they have all sorts of plants. It's very nice. Everything is so overpriced. It's a real issue I have.

1:11:02Ronnie Karam: So is every little thing. So if you happen to... Every brilliant little thing. That's my every little thing. If you see her... Some are Broadway shows. If you see her, be like, can you lower the prices on those succulents? Thank you. Yeah. So Andy asked if this is the first time they did more than make out and they say yes Okay You ate a guy's butt and basically got fucked for the first time on camera watching Real Housewives Honestly what's happening to the world I'm about to say this seems like gold for a lot of people So Andy's like Well Heather from Gay says oh my god what was it that you put on your butt that Michaels thought tasted so great and then Molly is like it's bum bum cream but it's like what what and Molly's like yeah it's sold to Gennaro for the ladies and Grace is like yeah I'll use that stuff and they're saying it tastes good and smells good whatever and he's like okay could someone explain the ant eater reference what do you not get about it by the way of course Andy is like dwelling on this boy he just wants to know about the dick and Grace is like what what does that mean And they're like, it's an ant eater.

1:12:11Ronnie Karam: I don't know who did that. Why was he eating ants? That's not even feeling. Grace, an ant eater? Uh-uh, I don't get it. What is that? It's a dick, Grace. How come? Because it's not circumcised. Oh, like O'Sheen.

1:12:31Oh, no, I mean, there's nothing wrong with it. Nothing wrong with it, by the way. and like it's like yeah when it gets hard it goes out of it so it like works out and just like yeah it's science okay like cars go in the garage so michaels and tj when was the last time you hooked

1:12:48Ronnie Karam: up were there any fingers involved did you do it today tell me about it did you get it on your phone could you airdrop it to me i'm handy tj's like like hook up like me make out it was like in new york i was like oh michaels what's up with you and dj today well here's the thing like you can't like sit there and just like act like things are not weird like after watching the season back in the way that like things played out it's just like it's like weird to see where we've like ended compared to where we were before and he's like what's weird about it my vacuum cleaner still works so as far as I'm concerned everything's great yeah but there's only one frustrating things for me because like my ex relayed his message to Liz which is his best friend and roommate works for Apollo yeah it's Liz it's Liz from Rhode Island I live with TJ you like to mess with me?

1:13:34Ronnie Karam: I don't think it's very smart to mess with me right now. Oh, yes, I'm the bad guy in this situation. So, basically, some guy said that TJ came up to him at a party and said everything that happened between him and Michaels was only for story, and it didn't mean anything. And TJ's like, um, when did this happen? Did I have a vacuum in my hand? And he's like, it happened at Cassidy's engagement party. And he goes, meanwhile, Molly's like, did you ask him? why don't you call him immediately also of course they went to someone's engagement party they went to an engagement party for someone named Cassidy so TJ is like I wasn't there I wasn't at home I don't even know who Cassidy is so Michael's like well I don't know who's partying whatever and TJ says it's not true I'm sorry that you felt that way or what you heard that's what you heard and you took it to heart but we've also been really up and down for the past six months so just like you can't blame it on me that's just not fair Like, what else is there?

1:14:33Ronnie Karam: So Andy asks if he has real feelings for TJ. And there's a very long pause. And he's like, no, not anymore. Okay, so you do. And then Maddie's like, you did? And he goes, yeah. And TJ goes, well, you never expressed that. And Maddie says, even before filming. And he's like, well, I mean, I did when we were in New York. And TJ's like, yeah, but when I asked you, you denied it. And you also made it with three people that night. So, like, you can't turn that on me. yeah like how could he not know i know michael's the fourth guy you made out with seriously like you're like oh yeah like you know i had feelings but i had to put up a wall it's like no you were making out with guys yeah seriously and then when there was only tj left you banged him so andy is like well when we saw you on the show tj said you told me that you love me in the club is that how you feel you just you just didn't seem to back it up he's like yeah i mean just like after that It was like next morning.

1:15:27I mean, basically TJ is like, yeah, he'll get drunk and he'll say he loves me. But then he like ignores it. And then when I tried to talk to him about it in the Dominican, he was like, did I say that? Whoa, I wasn't getting anywhere. So like, it's not fair to me. It's not fair that you're putting it all on me. Don't make me look like I'm the bad guy here. I mean, that's true.

1:15:42Ronnie Karam: TJ was the more mature when he brought it up. But TJ also did it in this way. Like, well, so do you like me? And are you going to admit it? And na, na, na, na, na. I mean, you know, Michaels probably wants to feel something too. but I think TJ probably feels a little gun shy because he did last year and he was like I do like you and Michaels was like and now and so he kind of let him down in that nail salon or whatever so now TJ is going to make him do it and Michaels is just not ready they also carry a lot of baggage both of them and I think they're also in a geographical space where it's difficult and they just I think they just can't emotionally connect because they have their own shit going on so TJ's like yeah there was an attraction and then the lines were blurred so now the question is Emmy making fun of the age gap or judging the age gap and TJ's like you always comment about my age and Emmy's like I mean hello like Gandalf the Grey like Gandalf the Gay like people offer their seats to you when you walk into them you're pretty old Grace Lee's going to AA you're going to AARP am I right anyone anyone and um uh and he's like yeah well i mean you're calling him grams he's 30 and maddie goes five 35 he's not even in the coveted 18 to 34 age bracket anymore he's like in a different nielsen family at this point andy it's like i mean who is he just like a wisp so emmy is like uh like yeah that was you just no i was just being mean this is being it's a crisis like we don't do ageism, right Andy?

1:17:22We even think someone as old and decrepit as you Andy Cohen is still a viable person for someone.

1:17:28Ronnie Karam: Y 'all, even Andy Cohen still has a penis probably. How's your penis eat ants? Andy, what was it like in the horse and carriage days? If your penis still eats ants do people have to mush them up first because you're so old? What was it like the first time you got a refrigerator? Was that exciting? Okay, yeah, I'm a real grandpa on the group god thanks guys emmy you sparked a lot of conversation this season was it was your first season without will in the group do you think that made you racist

1:18:01she's like um well uh well i i you know like he was i i i really don't want to like talk about this you know but like yeah i mean i'm getting married and like it just like it sucks okay like it really sucks well is there any part of him you think that even like like when he goes to bravo kind of stuff. It's sort of like he's missing being on the show. No, I mean, honestly, no. He was very comfortable and like, look, you don't understand. He's going to be a big-time lawyer doing he's going to specialize in horse and buggy lawsuits on the cobblestones of Charleston. So he's really excited for his next chapter of his life.

1:18:36Ronnie Karam: You'll love that Andy. Horses, just like the old days. They're going to have radios in them, right? No, they're horses, Grace. He's specializing in mint julep litigation. because you know will is just gonna be one of these like southern lawyers he's like you see it he's gonna be like wearing the white pants and like he'll go to like things like that like the white hat whatever and he's just gonna be like well i hear that your whiskey still was broken into how can i help yeah it's gonna be like a boring kind of low-level lawyer you know like sidewalk law he'll have like a like a wooden sign that's like sort of swings from yeah It'll be like William and William Esquad He'll have like a country club membership But it'll be like the back table Yeah He'll be like barely kind of making it in there He'll join his dad's law firm so finally his dad can Finally call it Culpin Sons Yeah Culpin finally not a disappointment For a minute Yeah so he didn't miss anything okay He doesn't miss any of it he doesn't really care Yeah he missed anything Even when the BravoCon people are like what is this idiot doing here God, he wasn't on the show Well, I mean, you're damned if you don't You're damned if you don't He's my fiancé Everyone's fiancés and boyfriends come to BravoCon I mean, he's my fiancé He's still going to support me At a weekend event He wants to support me What am I supposed to do about it?

1:20:00Ronnie Karam: Alright, calm down Can we get at me a bowl of water? Well, people gave him a hard time For even coming to BravoCon When he wasn't on the show what's your reaction to that? Well, yeah, like I said, damned if you do, damned if you don't. And Lake's like, he was very supportive. I was with you the whole time and he was very supportive. Like that time when you're like, well, again, this picture with me and he went as if. Or that time when he was like flirting with that other girl, I thought that was supportive. And he was like taking pictures of her, but then afterwards he'd be like, oh, I was taking pictures of the wall and she just got into frame.

1:20:30He was like really cool.

1:20:31Ronnie Karam: He was hanging out with my mom and my sister. He was so nice. He asked them both for their phone numbers and asked if they wanted him to take them to the bathroom. So sweet. TJ on Watch What Happens Live. Hey, that's my show. We asked if you'd heard any new cheating rumors about Will since he left the show and you said yes. And he goes, yes, that is factual. Okay, you know what? We need to drop that. Okay, this is not okay. I love that Emmy's allowed to tell someone to drop something but when she's told to drop something, she's like, what about, what about, what about, what about, out. She goes, I am not talking about Will on this TV show anymore, okay?

1:21:10Ronnie Karam: This is inappropriate. I will not discuss it. This is not cool. I will not talk about it with you guys. This is not cool. Not okay, you guys. Not okay. What we're not going to do is mention Will's name on television, so give me some grace. This is so funny. What? And he's like, what did you hear, DJ? He's like, shut up, baby. And DJ says, well, I was in Columbia. Like, Columbia? No, Columbia, I think South Carolina. Is that a place? I think it's the capital. Is it Columbia or Columbia? Because I need to know. Because I love that TJ would just be touring apartments in Columbia. He's like a Medellin.

1:21:47Mike meets a lady who's like, welcome, here's your Airbnb. Oh, I heard about Wilco. You would not believe what I heard about Wilco. So he's like, I was in Columbia touring an apartment building with a friend. And the leasing lady recognized me. And she was like, I have to tell you something. Yes, messy leasing lady. Love it. Columbia leasing lady.

1:22:10Ronnie Karam: I love the messy Columbia leasing office lady. I was out this past weekend and me and our friends and Will's group friends were intermingled and this girl was going home and Will insisted on taking her home. Well, that's not cheating. That's not a strong one, TJ. Especially, honestly, if you're hearing from a messy ass landlady from Columbia, South Carolina. I don't know. Will is not on this TV show anymore This is not okay I will not sit there And listen to you Talk about At some point It's just a straw going up and down So TJ's like Well have you apologized yet It's inappropriate All the comments that he made about me being All the comments about you making About me being predatory Have you apologized for that and so now we see an explanation.

1:23:07Ronnie Karam: She went on Nick Vile, of course, this messy ass. But I went on as well. Do you know how many comments I got about that? People were not happy with me. How dare you go on Nick Vile. That was funny to me. But he is so messy. He has a lot of bad takes. I will say that he has a lot of bad takes. Yeah, and you know what he does when he has a bad take? Well, any take he has but he's like, yeah, I was thinking he's like trying to give you some bicep. your take is still bad like thanks for doing the push-ups okay but some of us are confident enough to have bad takes like this yeah i had a fun time on the show but he has he does have some wonky ass takes for sure so tj is like um he's like yeah i'm not gonna move on with her especially after that podcast so tj is saying there's like not a day that goes by where i don't think about how like one of my closest friends called me a predator on a podcast like the podcaster asked emmy if she ever thought that like joe was blacked out drunk and i was the one making the moves when he was sleeping and she sat there and i'm like oh my god why i don't think so he's really upset about this and he's saying that he opened up to her and like like you know for you to go with the narrative is like really damaging i was like but i have listened to that podcast like 500 times because i was on it and um god i was like i'm like i'm so hot like even in audio like i'm I'm just like so good looking.

1:24:27Ronnie Karam: But, you know, like that part I listened to so much. And I said, you know, I never thought about it that way because the story I heard from you was that Joe was making the moves. And so that's what I said. And then he said, I don't care about who is making moves. I mean, Joe's blackout in the situation and he doesn't remember the sexual acts. So, I mean, like I just said, I never saw it that way. And then I clarified why I didn't see that way. And he's like, but all you said to clarify was we've heard it from TJ nonstop for two years. you never said once because that's what I heard come out of Joe's mouth.

1:24:57Ronnie Karam: And she's like, but Joe's never really said it like that. I don't know. Like, was, who am I to say who was sexually assaulted? I don't know. How am I supposed to know? So TJ's like, you know what? And then the next day you repeated it, so I know you fucking remember it. Well, I mean, he said it at my apartment. I mean, like, what if I did something to you in my sleep? Because what happened, it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter what the fuck happened. It doesn't need to be talked about. The fact that, like, you didn't stick up for me it's not that hard. I feel like you were just following suit of your fiancé because that's what you do.

1:25:29Ronnie Karam: I mean, I was uncomfortable. I was uncomfortable. I don't want to talk about it. I mean, it's just kind of like, what we will not do is bring up Will. Alright, let's bring up Will. Will is not on this show. Let's bring up Will. Okay, so after last year's reunion, Emmy went back to our hotel suite and had a booming phone call that would echo throughout this entire season. I've forgotten that they wrote down everything that they were saying they were writing in their notes app that was so funny they were putting all the notes apps on the screen and so let's see here Andy basically is like he asks Maddie we see a clip he says on Watch Happens Live Maddie said she couldn't defend your actions when it came to using the word unsafe and we see a clip of Maddie saying no she could not defend Emmy for saying unsafe he's like so what's your reaction to that Emmy would you like to Would you like to cry?

1:26:23Would you like to shake? Or would you like to shake and cry at the same time? The floor is yours.

1:26:31Ronnie Karam: I'm going to say the same thing I said to Nick File. Yes, Joe probably did rape somebody. Yeah, I'm going to go with that. All right, that's not going to help you. Do not talk about Will. Okay, did you know that Emmy was watching that? By the way, Maddie, she was, yes. And I knew Will was too. Don't you. Will. Will. Well, okay. And then Grace Kelly goes, I was watching too. That was so good. I love that show. I like when they get on the cowboy, they get on the horses and they start shooting each other. That was so good. It's black and white. What? You know, they don't do enough shows, but that's gun smoke.

1:27:08Ronnie Karam: Okay. All right. Emmy, why do you think multiple people have had to explain to you why the word unsafe was the wrong choice? I mean, it was like, it was like such a hard season to watch. It was really hard. I would sit there on my couch. I would turn it off. I felt unsafe watching the show. Is that bad to say? I mean, my TV is whack. I'm not getting in trouble with this too. So soon me. Alright? God. Oh my god. I don't want to cry because I'm not going to cry because it's not a front. I'm not going to cry for a run and I just want to tell everyone I will absolutely not be crying. Oh my god. Here it comes!

1:27:44Ronnie Karam: Oh! Here it comes the white lady tears. We're shocked, Emi. Emi, you've had months to prepare this and you're still... Your first response is still a Karen response. I cannot. This woman learns. Well, my God. Sharon is Karen, you know. So there we go. That's it. Yeah. So that was fun. Yeah. Good times, everybody. Thanks so much for being here with us. We'll be back next week. Come to our cabaret live streaming. Get your tickets at watchwhatcrappens.com or our LinkedIn bio on Instagram. Also Monday, we will be back with both Amazon live at 1.30pm Pacific time but then we'll be doing crappy hour at a different time we'll tell you, we'll announce it this week alright everybody, bye, thanks for being here watch what Crappins would like to thank its premium sponsors she answered the call, it's Adia Paul ain't no thing like Alison King our way is the Amber way it's the Foster and the Furious it's Amanda Foster it's Always Automatic with Ashley Otto Put your hands together for Carly Clapp.

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