#3398 RHOA S17E10: Oh Say Can You Flee

0:00Ronnie Karam: This episode is sponsored by Klarna. You know when you buy something practical like groceries, plane tickets, or honestly, I just did a whole, I need a new summer clothes because apparently none of last year's clothes survived my emotional support snacking era situation. And you realize you're not thinking about what you're buying, but how you're paying for it.

0:17Ben Mandelker: I've actually been using Klarna for that because it gives you options. You can pay now, later, or over time depending on how you want to handle it. Sometimes I'll split something into a few payments so I don't have to deal with it all at once. And I like that. I like that everything's super clear in the app. You always know what you owe and when, so there aren't weird surprises.

0:35Ronnie Karam: And it's not just for huge purchases either. I've used it for everyday stuff. And you can even get cash back and deals in the Klarna app, which honestly feels like kind of a smarter way to handle spending day-to-day. Less pressure, more flexibility.

0:48Ben Mandelker: Download the Klarna app today or visit Klarna.com to learn more.

0:52Ronnie Karam: California resident loans made or arranged pursuant to a California financing law license and MLS number 1353190. Klarna balance account required to be eligible for cashback points, limitations, terms, and conditions apply. Losing weight is one thing, but keeping it off, that's where it gets really frustrating, and that's why Weight Loss by Hers now offers access to the FDA-approved Wagovi pill and the FDA-approved Wagovi pen. Wagovi is designed to help you lose weight and keep it off.

1:23Ben Mandelker: With Wagovi at Hers, lose up to 20 % or more of your body weight when combined with diet and exercise. It helps you regulate your appetite, eat less, and keep weight off. Plus, Magovi is the first ever GLP-1 pill for weight loss, so there are no needles needed.

1:37Ronnie Karam: Everything is 100 % online through HERS. You'll connect with a licensed provider who will determine if treatment is right for you. And if prescribed, your medication is delivered right to your door, no insurance necessary.

1:49Ben Mandelker: Ready to reach your goals? Visit forhers.com slash crappens to get personalized, affordable care that gets you.

1:57Ronnie Karam: That's F-O-R-H-E-R-S dot com slash crappens.

2:02Ben Mandelker: Forhers.com slash crappens.

2:04Ronnie Karam: Weight loss by HERS is not available in all 50 states. WGOVI is a registered trademark of Novo Nordisk AS. To get started and learn more, including important safety information, WGOVI clinical study information and restrictions, visit Forhers.com.

2:26Ben Mandelker: Who cares what happens when there's so much that crappens? Who cares what happens when there's so much that crappens?

2:39Ronnie Karam: Well, hello and welcome to Watch What Crappens. I'm Ronnie. That's Ben over there. Hello, Ben.

2:45Ben Mandelker: Hello. How are you?

2:47Ronnie Karam: Good. Thank you. Welcome to Monday, everybody. Happy Gay Pride. Happy post-Tony's Day. Happy. Oh, it's just a big gape.

2:56Ben Mandelker: weekend over here that we just finished big gay weekend the best kind did you watch the tonys

3:03Ronnie Karam: i did not because i had to celebrate straight people time during gay pride yes love island came on last week and we had a really busy week which meant i had six hours of love island to watch yesterday so i cuddled in my bed and i watched a dumb hooker parade of straight people Wow.

3:25Ben Mandelker: Well, now you're officially ahead of me because I wasn't able to catch up. I thought I was going to be able to catch up yesterday. And I still have two more episodes to go. So it's just sort of getting back into my normal rhythms and flows of TV watching after this crazy, crazy week that we just had. But now I'm relocated up to my parents' house for those who are looking at my environment. Why suddenly I don't look like I'm in as posh of a setting as you are. It's because I'm back in my childhood bedroom. And also if my audio is like a little lower or a little weirder today, I apologize ahead of time.

3:58Ben Mandelker: I'm now on my official travel mic. So doing the best that I can over here.

4:03Ronnie Karam: Yeah. Well, I'm still in the fancy studio. So suck it.

4:07Ben Mandelker: It is so fancy. You look like you're in a commercial. i feel like i feel like i'm one of those strange professors that they call in on like cnn to talk about war they're like i'm now from uh university of of michetoka it's professor langley and then it's always like some professor doesn't know how to use the zoom and it looks like it's like pixel art and he's like what huh what that's what i feel like right now you're wendy sfo calling in

4:33Ronnie Karam: from like the jail uh you know visitors room or whatever where she's doing that stuff from but yeah uh it's here it's nice nice to be here great to be here so i don't even know who won anything the toni so but god bless all those people do you want to know singing their little hearts out no i do no i actually did i read it on the way here um smigadoon spoiler alert

4:56Ben Mandelker: smigadoon listen we are happy for smigadoon because sarah chase the star of smigadoon tony nominee crappin's listener supporter we love sarah chase so congratulations to her and

5:08Ronnie Karam: all of her castmates yeah so she nailed that one so good for her yeah um okay so let's get on with today shall we today's a crazy day here because we have atlanta we have rhode island and then we have amazon live and then we have crappy hour so it's a full day yeah and in the middle of it

5:25Ben Mandelker: i'm hopping on to two judgy girls to go over there to talk so we've got it's a we are and you're going to be doing some other podcasts this week as well so it's it's going to be a whole it's

5:36Ronnie Karam: be the the madness continues for crappins yeah uh so good times let's get on with it shall we real housewives of atlanta season 10 uh 17 episode 10 star spangled mess

5:51Ben Mandelker: how exciting all right star spangled mess um another funny episode you know i think there are a lot of people who don't like k michelle because she's batty um i'm like what what about A real housewife being bad, he makes you not like them. I think that she is hilarious. I love her.

6:09Ronnie Karam: So far, she's amazing TV. This is one of the best seasons they've had in a long time.

6:13Ben Mandelker: Yeah.

6:13Ronnie Karam: I'm actually excited to watch it. Yeah.

6:16Ben Mandelker: It's been so good. Yeah. It's been so, so good. Yeah, fantastic.

6:21Ronnie Karam: And everybody's so delusional on it. You know, Atlanta really does a good job of bringing the delusion. You've got Drew, who thinks she's, you know, Beyonce slash Julia Roberts slash God knows who. You've got Shamia who thinks she has a movie career. I don't know when that happened, but she thinks she's got like a legit movie career. Yes. You've got K. Michelle who's just nuts and thinks everybody's following her. And then you've got Pinky who keeps reframing her bankruptcy. It's like personal. It's business. It doesn't matter anyway. I poop out$80 ,000. None of this really matters. She's crazy.

6:58Ronnie Karam: And then we add on to Pinky's today because now Pinky is producing a movie.

7:04Ben Mandelker: You know what? You know what they love doing on Atlanta? They love holding auditions for something, anything. They will love to sit behind a folding table and line people up. I mean, every season someone does this.

7:16Ronnie Karam: But Pinky has a movie? I don't understand. And also.

7:19Ben Mandelker: No, it's a TV show. Actually, a point of contention because Shamia said she was excited to audition for Shamia's movie.

7:26Ronnie Karam: and i was like it's a tv show oh it's a tv series okay notoriously way less expensive than movies not really because that's a lot of money and she's like i want to spend forty thousand dollars forty thousand dollars what is this about forty thousand dollars on a tv show yeah her budget is

7:48Ben Mandelker: it's not even going to air on two be it'll just air on two who can't afford the b in the i but 40 000 you're gonna be able to pay for like one half hour of craft service

8:02Ronnie Karam: exactly i was wondering kind of about the budget so i'm guessing it's like non-union um which is not great obviously fine you know that's fine but don't you owe like zillions of dollars where you're getting 40 000 i don't know none of the the logistics don't make any sense on this show you know like one week she's crying and you know it's like oh my god is she gonna lose her house oh my god and then the next week she's like i'm producing a television show yeah the number of

8:30Ben Mandelker: tv shows that have been produced by this cast by the way is surprisingly high considering that like one doesn't just make pilots in life like it's just not a thing that people do like sometimes you can like make a short film or whatever but it's just like not a common thing to be like hey i'm gonna make a um a pilot tv pilot and yet i think we've seen it from cynthia from kenya did we see it from kim fields i don't remember if we did she may have just been directing one and now we have pinky doing a tv pilot i don't know but i can tell you this life does in fact

9:03Ronnie Karam: twirl on isn't that the name of her show life girls on i believe it i believe that is correct

9:10Ben Mandelker: life twirls on but so do we just how we do it is no twirl mystery it's no twirl street anyway it's a hilarious show it's like a nice it's like a nice dose of hilarity to start the

9:24Ronnie Karam: week off which i really enjoy and i really calling a flute a record or a recorder a flute yeah you've got i mean the delusion it just keeps going yeah it's like a great it's a great appetizer

9:36Ben Mandelker: before you get into rhode island it's not even an appetizer it's a full meal it's a full meal and then you have a rhode island meal so it's it's a really nice one-two punch that we get on sunday

9:44Ronnie Karam: nights now yeah so yeah she is doing these auditions and she's brought in naturi not and lewis actress and songwriter why i don't know do we know why i think it's naturi i mean naturi

9:58Ben Mandelker: does have you know she is established and it's like it's like okay i need to sell people on the idea that I'm doing a real TV project. So I can either pitch it as, here is a TV project produced by a lady who sells chicken with an apostrophe, or I can have the lady from 3LW and Power who's on here. So I think she's like, let me get a little bit of credibility to this project, even though she was a producer for Maury. By the way, being a producer for Maury Povich does not mean you're automatically qualified to just become a sitcom producer. I just want to

10:33Ronnie Karam: point that out yeah look i don't want to take away anyone's credits but when we're talking about delusion she says what a lot of people don't know is i was a very successful television producer before i even thought of being a restaurateur i was a casting director for a yonla fix my life and i was like uh are we starting at the top because i don't know that anybody yala i don't know that a casting director from a yonla would be considered like someone who has an extremely successful career in producing television calm down mark brunette i know now now now listen

11:07Ben Mandelker: if she had said i was a casting director for starting over with the yamla then i'd be like

11:13Ronnie Karam: give her anything she needs or for everything you know if she was like a producer for these shows and she's like i'm a successful producer i produced a yamla fix my life i'd be like well okay okay but she's like i'm a very successful producer i used to cast for ayama fix i know

11:31Ben Mandelker: honestly if she even said i was the one who bought the mannequin um that prosecuted the lady on starting over and it represented herself because there was an episode where a lady was went went to court and she was on trial against herself and herself was represented by a mannequin and the judge was telleries so like if she said she was in charge of that mannequin i'd be like give her

11:52Ronnie Karam: every give her just fast forward to the emmy yeah i remember at the time that mannequin was like oh my god this chicken this fake chicken nugget tastes like it's from costco it's a good episode

12:04Ben Mandelker: mannequin was so upset

12:07Ronnie Karam: deliris is like how dare you i've been touched by a terrible chicken nugget there was also one

12:12Ben Mandelker: episode where they had like they like assembled a whole bunch of um suitcases in the driveway of their mansion and then like ianla had them like like jump over the suitcases and she's like there you've now stepped over your baggage that show was so good like who came up with that show it's like let's put a whole bunch of women who have some you know some some challenges in their life we're going to put them in a house and make them do very literal therapy.

12:47Ronnie Karam: Wow, that was a good one. So she was also a producer for The Maury Show, which, I mean, better. Still not sitcom track. That's a bit of plug and play, you know? Yeah, but she's like, what better way to get in production than to tell my story in a way where people can visually see it and appreciate it and understand entrepreneurship is beautiful and it doesn't have to be just one lane but one lane needs to be successful for you i mean like if you're gonna make a biopic about yourself you need to have your stores open and not be in five million dollar bankruptcy i'm sorry i don't want to you know like i need an ending you need a happier ending before you shoot the show that's what i'm saying well i've got some i've got some big news

13:34Ben Mandelker: here i just got the results in and pinky cole you are in fact the mother of this bankruptcy i'm so sorry the tests came in it is yours this bankruptcy is yours and uh notori is playing pinky in it um

13:52Ronnie Karam: which is nice and uh notori i don't know a lot about notori i will say this Natori is not busy she's not

14:01Ben Mandelker: she's not very busy well listen I have to put some respect on Natori's name 3LW let's not forget our favorite girl group of you know turn of the millennium you know promises promises chicken nuggets no more no more no more that is actually what notori will be saying when she realizes when she reads the

14:31Ronnie Karam: script and she decides to back out of this project so uh pinky tells us who notori is

14:38Ben Mandelker: ben just told us i just sang it with some mumbles you're welcome pinky pinky's like we've got the

14:43Ronnie Karam: script the pilot episode did you see the budget what's that number and she's like we're in the 80s but we need to shave some more off and she's like yeah i'm i'm good with the 40 000 range

14:54Ben Mandelker: range yeah well of course you are if it's in if the budget is 80 000 and you want to only front 40 000 of course you're good with a 40 000 range yeah pinky just go sell some more you know

15:05Ronnie Karam: fake chicken sandwiches because that shit's not cheap she'll sell a beyond burger for 20 something dollars so i don't know sell more burgers some yeah yeah i am uh i'm concerned about this tv

15:17Ben Mandelker: pilot i'm not gonna lie uh then we go to cynthia's house and drew and angela show up and guess who's there cynthia's boyfriend prince we finally meet him our dutch god has arrived so cynthia's like by the grace of god prince and i have been dating almost two years now what i love about our long distance relationship is that when he's gone he's gone and when he's back he's back so it works for

15:41Ronnie Karam: us the producer's like what about when you need to get laid she's like what do you think facetime's for not that you better you better back away trying to get me to do anything like that on the FaceTime. I can barely get my face to look okay in FaceTime. Like, getting an okay selfie for my waddle is work on FaceTime without having to worry about my fupa, my back, and my pussy and my crack. That is too much to angle. I mean, what the hell?

16:14Ben Mandelker: So, Portia shows up, and so she meets Prince, and she's like,

16:19Ronnie Karam: this girl is so happy and glowing. Like, I've never ever seen that cynthia with all her teeth like this and everyone angela's asking if they're in

16:25Ben Mandelker: love and prince is like am i in love hell yes and so they're like all happy and cynthia's like i'm not surprised that he loves me i'm just surprised that he said in front of the ladies

16:36Ronnie Karam: so oh so he gets the hell out of there he's like uh-oh women are talking bye cynthia's like see now that's a housewife's husband right there he says at one point he says something in dutch

16:47Ben Mandelker: uh he says he says the whole thing in dutch and they just cut to drew and they play that percussion what's that percussion it's like a wood block like drew's like all confused i just thought it was funny because of course no one in this cast speaks dutch and so all of them it's very reasonable to be like what what the fuck did he just say but there's but the show's still like we'll take a chance to have drew represent people being bewildered and confused yeah so uh he leave

17:16Ronnie Karam: I mean, I don't know. Listen, I think he's really cute and nice and stuff. I just, it would be hard for me to date a Dutch person because I feel like they'd always make me pay for my own meal.

17:26Ben Mandelker: Hmm. You're stupid. That's true, though.

17:30Ronnie Karam: Like, why else would they call it going Dutch?

17:33Ben Mandelker: Well, you know what? I'd have a hard time because I'd probably always say Stroopwafel and then always be like, it's Stroopwafel, not Stroopwafel. And I'd be like, oh, whatever.

17:40Ronnie Karam: Then get rid of the extra E. Stop confusing everybody on purpose.

17:44Ben Mandelker: and then you know like you start eating the stroopwafel and then they'd be like why are you eating that you should just be having an almond it is the dutch way i'm like wait a second i'm dating yolanda uh the limes we only eat stroopwafel once in while once in very important blue moon stupid americans uh so he leaves and um now they all sit down they what was going on with cynthia's sofa was it like modular and she moved all the the squares inside because it was like a big giant daybed but it had like just strange like it had like a strange shape to it that i couldn't quite wrap my brain around did you notice this yeah i thought she was making it like a couch

18:28Ronnie Karam: pit you know where you can just all like couch pit together okay yeah because i felt like it was

18:35Ben Mandelker: trying to be a corner sectional but it somehow got tetris and scrambled into like a big shape but like not everyone could even though it was so big not everyone could really sit in it like

18:46Ronnie Karam: someone had to stand right i mean i don't know it bothered me i like that it bothered you so much i didn't notice them like kind of falling onto the couch they couldn't just get get on the couch or kind of like rolling onto the couch yeah because like you had to go through an extra square of couch just to get to the sitting square part yeah it's one of those things that's okay once you're sitting but getting there is not good it's the sort of thing my dad would be very unhappy with he'd be like why is this arranged like this it's time for a commercial it's time for a crappin's

19:22Ben Mandelker: commercial ronnie can i tell you something i was shopping online the other day and i don't know what's happening with me, I can never remember my password anymore. Does that happen to you?

19:34Ronnie Karam: It's called age span. Okay. It's age.

19:37Ben Mandelker: Well, guess what? There's a special button to save us. It's a purple button. And thank God for the purple button because it's for Shopify.

19:46Ronnie Karam: Oh my God. Shopify makes it so much easier. Shopify is the commerce platform behind millions of businesses around the world and 10 % of all e-commerce in the U S from household names like Thrive Cosmetics, Chubbies, Death Wish Coffee, Magic Spoon, to brands just getting started.

20:04Ben Mandelker: Get started with your own design studio too. With hundreds of ready-to-use templates, Shopify helps you build a beautiful online store that matches your brand style.

20:12Ronnie Karam: Accelerate your efficiency, whether you're uploading new products or trying to improve existing ones. Shopify is packed with helpful AI tools that write product descriptions, page headlines, and even enhance your product photography.

20:24Ben Mandelker: Tackle all of those important tasks in one place from inventory to payments to analytics and more. No need to save multiple websites or try to figure out what platform is hosting the tool that you need. Everything is all in one place, making your life easier and your business operations smoother.

20:42Ronnie Karam: See less carts go abandoned and more sales go cha-ching with Shopify and their ShopPay button.

20:49Ben Mandelker: Sign up for your$1 per month trial today at shopify.com slash WWC.

20:55Ronnie Karam: Go to shopify.com slash WWC. That's shopify.com slash WWC. Ka-ching! This episode is sponsored by Klarna. You know when you buy something practical like groceries, plane tickets, or honestly, I just did a whole, I need a new summer clothes because apparently none of last year's clothes survived my emotional support snacking era situation. situation and you realize you're not thinking about what you're buying but how you're paying

21:20Ben Mandelker: for it i've actually been using klarna for that because it gives you options you can pay now later or over time depending on how you want to handle it sometimes i'll split something into a few payments so i don't have to deal with it all at once and i like that you know i like that everything's super clear in the app you always know what you owe and when so there aren't weird surprises and

21:39Ronnie Karam: it's not just for huge purchases either i've used it for everyday stuff and you can even get cash back and deals in the Klarna app, which honestly feels like kind of a smarter way to handle spending day to day. Less pressure, more flexibility.

21:52Ben Mandelker: Download the Klarna app today or visit Klarna.com to learn more.

21:56Ronnie Karam: California resident loans made or arranged pursuant to a California financing law license and MLS number 135-3190. Klarna balance account required to be eligible for cash back points, limitations, terms, and conditions apply. So they sit on the couch and start gossiping about um pinky and k michelle's big talk and phaedra comes in and um she's like oh if drew's here before me i know i'm extra late beyond late the party might have started yesterday

22:29Ben Mandelker: it's true um so cynthia is like by the way me and pinky uh got k and borscht together for lunch the other day and i'm very proud to say that it went extremely well um so portia's basically like yeah you know long story short instead we're not gonna like talk behind each other's backs we'll just talk directly to each other's faces which is always the most hilarious and sweet and unreliable pledge that housewives make towards each other they always get into fights they always say well in the future if i hear something about you i'm coming directly to you and then they maybe try it once or twice and then it fails and then they go back to talking about each other behind

23:09Ronnie Karam: each other's backs as they should i mean i'm not coming straight to you if i hear something about you or if i'm mad at you i need to talk to other people to try it out it's like a broadway show yeah you need to try it out on other people until your story sounds as solid as possible i actually think like bring it to the other person i think that's actually a hundred percent correct

23:28Ben Mandelker: i like it's like it's sort of you're saying it sort of in a joking way and i know you're sitting you're serious but i think that there really is something that like if you have an issue with someone you vent a little bit and you also like focus what it is that's like bothering you what you're upset about you need to give it some reps and so people on these shows are always like so shocked i guess it's because people on reality tv are inherently messy so when you're venting to someone you only have like three seconds before that person's like well if you don't tell them i will and then you have to like rush this thing you know yeah but yeah definitely try out your

24:00Ronnie Karam: shit talking people so uh they're talking about this get together that they had and um portia's like well long story short is we're going to talk to each other instead of other people so i was glad about that but then we started talking about an elephant in the room that she created which is who's the one setting her up with the plotting and the scheming but i said but who told you that because you're having so many relationship issues with everybody because of that's what this one person is telling you and Angela's like well my discernment said it was Shamia so I wanted to speak to her and kind of explain why I felt the way I felt and give her an opportunity and so she tells the story of meeting her in the restaurant not getting kebabs and she's like and

24:45Ben Mandelker: Angela's saying she's talking about my home my home's not right and I'm like your home is hell because you're talking about my husband's outside and the few time he was outside he called me and he saw your ass outside so i i so i went left so portia just leaves because she's basically of the mindset that um yeah i'm like not really great with shamiya but i'm neutral and i don't want to be accused of piling on to her she's just yeah wants to stay out of it yeah she knows this will all be blamed on her somehow yep because it will be so she's like i don't want to give a facial expression a head nod nothing so then angela's still going off about this she's like i mean why hell are you working for the hawks you know you're still working for the hawks free that job up but you're the hawks players no you're in the falcons players i was like where did this happen this is shamia she's saying that shamia is banging various um hawks and falcons players yeah we hadn't heard that one right now like teams of things yeah basketball and football so then drew usually i

25:51Ronnie Karam: feel like you pick a sport when you're gonna like bang a bunch of players do people just jump sports because that's like a lot of groundwork to do you know you get in one sport and then you kind of know the guys and the coaches and everything i mean to be a hoe for all the different sports

26:09Ben Mandelker: i feel like it's like a pot yeah it's well it's like a variety pack because no one yeah well but

26:15Ronnie Karam: no one gossips more than straight guys no matter what they say about us yeah yeah they're the

26:20Ben Mandelker: biggest gossips and they all talk i mean look the crux of um uh what's your face porsche's whole thing this year is that she was hanging out with a guy and his friend called up to gossip that he just banged kelly that's like i mean talk about gossips yeah and a preacher and a preacher and a

26:39Ronnie Karam: preacher i love the preacher somewhere around there driving lamborghinis banging banging people on airplanes and then calling their best housewives friends after like they're actually making sound

26:50Ben Mandelker: preacher sound like a fun job yeah for sure so angela does this whole thing about shamia banging different falcons and hawks players and phaedra's like for angela to be the angela lansbury at this group right now she's definitely giving inspector gadget meets mr bean that's like that didn't totally make sense to me but i really appreciated the three pop culture references wedged together

27:11Ronnie Karam: in one sentence that she made so the producer asks do you believe that this lady's really sleeping with Hawks and Falcons players. And Angela's like, oh, well, the girls marry, so I'm not trying to do that. But yes, I believe it. Do you have proof? Oh, look, she just said I believe it and I believe the person who said it. Who is the person? I would, I will not, maybe it's a thing of the past, but it did happen. So now...

27:39Ben Mandelker: Junebug. I'm going to say it was Junebug who started this one again.

27:42Ronnie Karam: Yeah, it was that restaurant, that shady restaurant queen. But, so wait, now are you bringing up people she slept with in the way past and making it sound current you know angela's slippery

27:53Ben Mandelker: she is she is that type yeah i i don't i actually don't like if there's any sort of weight but i am

27:59Ronnie Karam: enjoying it yeah me too because i feel like at least it's a step up from the preachers you know stuff yeah i mean preachers just gross me out these married preachers yeah banging women on planes like come on now you're a preacher like have some self-respect but the football players

28:17Ben Mandelker: hot hot good good for you yeah good for you i mean especially i mean if you're stuck with gerald

28:23Ronnie Karam: all day you know seriously oh my god hey you know what i'd love if we could talk about air conditioning again tonight at dinner yeah so um cynthia's like oh my god hold on hold on hold on

28:37Ben Mandelker: i just got a text everyone two for one fries applebee's new groupon just came in wait oh my I got a new text. Got a new text.

28:46Ronnie Karam: People must really not watch Love Island because that's not how you say you got a text. You got a text. I got a text. I got a text. I got a text. I got a text. Start crying and hugging each other. I got a text.

29:04Ben Mandelker: Well, another big difference between this cast and Love Island is that I believe that there's probably at least one or two people on this cast that know where New Hampshire is.

29:13Ronnie Karam: That was pretty funny. where's new hampshire i love the new hampshire girl is so used to it she's like i'm from new hampshire do you know where that is like no

29:25Ben Mandelker: it's a mythical place a mythical place that's somewhere beyond the haze you have to follow you have to find an elder and and and he'll guide you towards the gates of new hampshire which ironically i'm going to next week uh in a thong so i will be going in a thong I was actually hoping to go to Rhode Island this week but I think I'm not going to be able to make that happen so it's very sad

29:50Ronnie Karam: it is sad so Shamia comes up in a speech bubble and they're both reading the text at the same time and I'm having Gerald I'm throwing Gerald a surprise party I would love for you both to attend all I ask is that you wear your finest African attire

30:10Ben Mandelker: and it's tomorrow at 8 o 'clock what the hell I'm sorry that's bullshit do not i would say at that point i'm not coming don't invite me the day before to anything where i have to have a strict dress code okay i have to source african attire i don't know now i mean these ladies may already have it i'm not sure but like i don't i don't want to be told i have 24 hours to go to a surprise party i mean i have plans okay i've got board games to play I've got Love Island to watch. I've got, you know, cookbooks to page through. I've got Pelotons that I have to aspire to ride, but then wind up not riding because I play video games.

30:48Ben Mandelker: Okay. I have other things to do. Yeah.

30:51Ronnie Karam: 24 hours is not enough notice, which she did on purpose. You know? Yeah.

30:56Ben Mandelker: You do that if you don't want someone to go.

30:58Ronnie Karam: Oh, so this is your first time hearing about that because she invited Dennis a week ago. So, and they're like, wait a minute. So she was doing this a week ago? oh so we're late additions so they find out that they're all invited late and of course

31:13Ben Mandelker: porsche is not invited and um that's crazy that she invites dennis and not porsche i'm sorry that's messy and she tried to have a messy moment there and it did not take off because obviously we didn't even register i didn't register until right now but also later on she says the reason why she gave everyone such a short window of like such a small um you know invitation window it's because she's like loose lips sink ships and you know if you give too much advanced notice people text the person but you invited dennis dennis is the less the messiest guy here he loves to sink ships all the time yeah um yeah it's rude but it's like one of those housewives

31:55Ronnie Karam: things that happens all the time so i don't really care it's also for a party i wouldn't go to anyway so i think she did people a favor like you don't want to celebrate gerald's 40th birthday party oh i'm so sorry that i would but i would have planned to watch love island at a different time but unfortunately with only 24 hours notice i'm gonna have to say no yeah okay but i did get him this nice little um carry carry size bottle of antifreeze would you give that to him for me

32:25Ben Mandelker: yeah yeah the irony is that i had to turn off my air conditioner to record today because it made too much noise and here we are talking about the air conditioner king of rhode island no less yeah yeah well at least it's a nice day out there today it's actually beautiful it's so beautiful I'm glad we're spending it inside podcasting um we're in the same we're in the same climate everyone right now it's very exciting um so anyway Dennis is invited and Drew is like well I wasn't invited so I mean I don't want to crash any more parties and Portia's like what what party did you crash she's like yours remember I crashed your party she's like oh yeah I forgot that we were fighting at the beginning of the season.

33:05Ben Mandelker: Yeah.

33:07Ronnie Karam: So now we go to K. Michelle's house who is FaceTiming her son Chase who's 21 years old. Yeah. And she's like, how you doing over there? You got a girlfriend? What's going on there? What's going on there, Henny? He's just like, hi, mom. He's just like looking away from the screen the whole time working on his computer. He's like, hi, mom. There's some platinum scheming. I called you. They put me on hold and I heard a click on my phone. Someone's listening on this line. Mom, no one's listening. It's just the hold system. My man's gaming. Have you heard anything about my vagina over there at that office?

33:43Ronnie Karam: Don't believe it thing. No one even knows that vagina anymore. Hey, I've had eight vaginas since. You call a meeting right now. You tell them that I'm on my eighth vagina.

33:52Ben Mandelker: Mom, stop it. It's my first day of work.

33:55Ronnie Karam: No, you tell everyone I won't have to buy this.

33:58Ben Mandelker: So, yeah, he's doing really well. He's going into corporate America, getting a job in D.C. and she is very proud of him, and they start talking about girls, and she's like, don't sneaking hot girls to the movies, and he's like, what? Why are you looking at me? I'm your mother, and I feel like I can discern best what type of woman you need to marry, and you are top-notch, top-tier, educated, and you don't deserve any gutter snap.

34:23Ronnie Karam: He's like, okay, thanks for calling.

34:25Ben Mandelker: Thanks, Mom.

34:26Ronnie Karam: So when we go over to the big birthday party, there's a whole band there.

34:31Ben Mandelker: Portia Mia. she probably really thought this was going to be a big scene on the season she probably thought this was going to be the thing that like would end an episode you know celebrating the family and it gets just sort of like wedged into like early early episode segments it's a real flop yeah

34:57Ronnie Karam: like gerald's a real fun guy are they playing his favorite song because it's just

35:04Ben Mandelker: seriously so people show up and um you know it's it's big it's festive lots of people are there it's like a perfectly fine fun party and um shamiya saying that she invited all of her favorites but unfortunately pinky won't make it because you know she stays booked and busy um and then we see pinky and she's at an event with keisha lance bottoms former mayor of atlanta that i know really mainly from riding the shuttle from terminal to terminal in Atlanta. Hello, this is Mayor Keisha Lance Bottoms. Welcome to Atlanta Hartsfield Airport. That's my contribution to this moment.

35:43Ronnie Karam: This is the only airport in America that's 90 miles long. Good luck making your connection. I know.

35:51Ben Mandelker: They're so proud of having the biggest airport in the country.

35:55Ronnie Karam: Have fun.

35:56Ben Mandelker: I know, exactly.

35:58Ronnie Karam: Hope you brought your roller skates. Good luck.

36:00Ben Mandelker: we have an enormous airport but if you want food options they're all crammed into three square feet enjoy i kind of hate their food courts when you're like sorry sunday chick-fil-a is closed okay that's the national thing don't yell at atlanta yeah terrible airport if you're gonna be a big airport and you're gonna be proud of being big be like pleasant okay don't be annoying right get some food in my hand and get me to my plane like literally the biggest airport of all time it's the biggest airport in the country and it is one of the worst i mean probably lax is the worst let's be honest but um i don't know like it's just like this one at least with lax it's gotten to a place where you can generally get through security pretty easily you know uh but Atlanta good luck good luck good luck everyone

36:56Ronnie Karam: so Shamia is saying she just wants good vibes and that's why she didn't bring Portia and so now people are doing shots and wishing Gerald a happy birthday and Kelly's crying and already wasted she's like oh yeah I just want you guys to know you guys are my couple's goals I mean just seeing Gerald like how strong you are and how much of an amazing dad you are and how much you care for your family this is beautiful Kelly I get that you're going through a hard time but your man just bought you an entire new mouth at least you're getting something out of the deal I don't want you crying with your new teeth you just got those you know baby steps

37:38Ben Mandelker: I also don't know if I say that there are couples goals given that the storyline from them this season is that he won't allow her to shoot like kiss other actors on screen for her for that career or like really is kind of like not happy with her having a career in general so maybe not like and also demanding a penis comes out of her and then there's that so i'm i'm not sure about that so okay michelle is rich he's very rich he's rich going through some financial issues and she's like oh my god

38:09Ronnie Karam: look at all this food i mean did you see all that food that was a lot it was a lot of food

38:15Ben Mandelker: and i do like that he's an air conditioner king because i feel like that's the sort of money that i feel like is reliable as opposed to some of these other husbands who do like a little bit of this and a little bit of that like do some real estate or like they do things that you're like where is this money coming from like pk like you know i feel like you run an air conditioning business and one of your clients is the airport you know and you're and apparently he's the he's the Rhode Island air conditioner you know I didn't realize or I had forgotten that he was the Rhode Island HVAC king until he uh Shamia was on with Alicia oh no she was on with Rosie I'm sorry and Rosie was talking about her renovation and Andy was like well you know they are the Rhode Island air conditioner kings and Rosie like couldn't believe it she was shocked she was like what the fun things we learn on the show who says it's not enriching yeah so let's see we go through this party yeah there's only so much i could say about air air conditioning excitement in rhode island you know it's an asymptotic relationship uh so let's see so kelly's crying and she's like

39:31Ronnie Karam: I was drunk. I don't even remember giving a speech at that time. And K. Michelle's like, I want to sleep with Kelly, Shamia, Gerald, my husband. I want all in. Everybody's doing a cheers on how great this couple is. And now the men go to another room so the ladies can do ladies things.

39:50Ben Mandelker: And Phaedra announces that the next time they get together, it's going to be everyone in the group. And they're going to do something fun. Okay? Good luck.

39:59Ronnie Karam: not like this party although i can't get the song out of my head

40:08Ben Mandelker: it actually sounds like a real song that you're singing um is it by banks i forgot her name anyway go on phaedra you're literally singing the baseline of a song like that what i gotta

40:27Ben Mandelker: You got me begging for threat

40:32Ben Mandelker: You know I'm really just glad that I always have a grasp of lyrics at all times

40:40Ronnie Karam: Yeah, so Phaedra's like, next time the party's gonna be good And Kelly's like, give me a hint, is there a man involved? So Phaedra's like, why is she talking like she doesn't have a man? Because she has a man. Maybe she forgot with all that drinking.

40:57Ben Mandelker: Oh, so Fidja goes, close your vagina and say yes. My vagina is closed. Speak for your other cast members. So, okay, Michelle's like, well, Angela did tell me that you don't want to biting. And she goes, hmm, we didn't even get past the waters. And so Shamia says, well, she came for her marriage. First thing she said was, you're in the NBA because you have easy access to all the players. And you fucked all of them because she's talking about her sit down with Angela. And they're like, whoa. And Cynthia's like, well, you know, the way it was explained to us at Lake Bailey was a little different.

41:32Ben Mandelker: It kind of felt like you came in and then she ended up responding to the energy that you were giving.

41:38Ronnie Karam: Which is true because she says she came from my marriage. But the first person to say thing about marriage was you, Shamia. When you said, I understand why your husband leaves and doesn't come home until you're in bed.

41:49Ben Mandelker: and you also walked into the place asking for bigfoot and sasquatch so like you already came

41:57Ronnie Karam: in with a stinky energy you came in dressed like a bruce okay there was no way that a fight was not going to ensue yeah so uh phaedra's like yeah she said she came in with an open heart and cynthia's like yeah and she was just responding to your energy and uh shimmy is like oh really with you bigfoot don't even i don't even like you like that she's like okay maybe we cannot call her bigfoot chick i'm gonna call her bigfoot as long as i want to well now look as a member of the bigfoot

42:25Ben Mandelker: community but she goes not the bigfoot community so shaminga goes well you wear yours a little bit differently you're not tripping over your feet and you can see cynthia's like i don't like this no you're not supposed to no no no no you're not don't make fun of us ladies who have the big feet

42:44Ronnie Karam: at all okay it's a chyron that says member of the bigfoot community community so shamia is like

42:53Ben Mandelker: uh cynthia she tells us cynthia if you were standing on the same ground i was standing on and the earth shook when she walked in the room you would say the same thing she's bigfoot and i'm not gonna stop shamia this is this is a dying fight because everyone likes angela no one likes you and you are you're literally body shaming okay and like you know it's people people the the standing 10 toes down in it no pun truly intended is not a good look for you like it's really bad and gigantic toes down look sometimes about look sometimes a body shaming moment kind of like tumbles out it happens to all of us we try not to do it like we aspire not to make fun of people's looks the things that they can't change etc the things that they were born with like it's not it's not fair to shame people unfortunately sometimes these things kind of like tumble out and you're like well i was being mean i was just trying to hurt someone and i i was i was not my best self but she's basically like no this is not tumbling out this was like i i've decided this is my ankle and i'm gonna keep on saying it because it's like very funny to me and you can see no one's saying no one's like laughing no one's giving her that look like oh you're bad everyone's Looking at her like, really, Shamia?

44:07Ronnie Karam: Yeah.

44:07Ben Mandelker: Really?

44:08Ronnie Karam: And Michelle's like, well, I tried to set him up. I was the one who tried to put it together. And she's like, oh, really? Well, she's, I'm like, you can kiss my ass. Like, I mean, what are we even doing here? And Kelly's like, okay, well, I touched her ass and it felt really good, by the way. And her ass is really soft, you guys. I don't know why anybody's making fun of anybody making fun of she needs ass. She needs ass. Feels really good. Like, okay, Kelly, you're just, you're just drunk, Kelly. Nobody knows what you're talking about I mean of all the places to be drunk It's like a 2pm party at Gerald's house

44:40Ben Mandelker: I know at Gerald's Seriously Commercials Here comes one right now Summer always changes how I'd get dressed I want pieces that feel lighter and more breathable Things that are easy but still pulled together

44:56Ronnie Karam: That's why I keep coming back to Quinn's They focus on high quality essentials That feel and look amazing Think breathable linen, soft organic cotton, well-made basics but without the luxury markup. It's that rare balance where everything feels elevated but still effortless.

45:14Ben Mandelker: Quince European linen pants and shirts are the perfect warm weather upgrade to add to your rotation starting at just$34.

45:21Ronnie Karam: Their tees are soft and easy to wear and their lightweight cotton sweaters are perfect for cooler summer nights.

45:27Ben Mandelker: Everything at Quince is priced 50 to 80 % less than similar brands.

45:32Ronnie Karam: They work directly with ethical factories and cut out the middlemen, so you're paying for quality, not brand markup.

45:37Ben Mandelker: Let me tell you something. That Mongolian cashmere sweater that I got from Quince, that is like a real icebreaker at parties because when people ask me about that sweater, I'm like, oh, I got it at Quince. They're like, oh my God, I have one from Quince too. And then we bond. You actually would never think a Mongolian cashmere sweater could be such a bonding thing, but it is a lovely, luxurious item. Elevate your summer wardrobe. Go to quince.com slash crappins for free shipping. on your order and 365 day returns now available in canada too that's q u i n c e dot com slash crappens for free shipping and 365 day returns quince.com slash crappens this episode is sponsored

46:14Ronnie Karam: by clarna you know when you buy something practical like groceries plane tickets or honestly i just did a whole i need a new summer clothes because apparently none of last year's clothes survived my emotional support snacking era situation and you realize you're not thinking about what you're buying, but how you're paying for it.

46:31Ben Mandelker: I've actually been using Klarna for that because it gives you options. You can pay now, later, or over time, depending on how you want to handle it. Sometimes I'll split something into a few payments so I don't have to deal with it all at once. And I like that. I like that everything's super clear in the app. You always know what you owe and when, so there aren't weird surprises.

46:48Ronnie Karam: And it's not just for huge purchases either. I've used it for everyday stuff. And you can even get cash back and deals in the Klarna app, which honestly feels like kind of a smarter way to handle spending day-to-day. Less pressure, more flexibility.

47:01Ben Mandelker: Download the Klarna app today or visit Klarna.com to learn more.

47:06Ronnie Karam: California resident loans made or arranged pursuant to a California financing law license and MLS number 1353190. Klarna balance account required to be eligible for cashback points. Limitations, terms, and conditions apply.

47:21Ben Mandelker: so let's move on to midtown social where we have a crossover moment guys it's a 50 bravo chat room reunion sadly hannah burner and kate chastain were not invited to this powwow but uh giselle arrives uh giselle bryant that is and she meets up with portia and so portia's saying why she loves giselle i guess it's for the three people who somehow don't watch potomac also and so she just has to tell everyone like yeah we did a show called The Chat Room I guess they can't even call it The Bravo Chat Room and she's like I just love her she's one of those friends that's just gonna tell you like it is

47:59Ronnie Karam: well first of all you should return the favor because she's dressed crazy Giselle's wearing like a ball gown to lunch it's good to know Giselle's fashion doesn't improve with geography you know it's just always terrible and I like how Portia described the show. She's like, we were on an extremely successful television show together. The chat room.

48:23Ben Mandelker: The chat room. It was basically a Zoom call that Bravo put up because they needed to put anything up with strange chemistry. And it got cancelled. God, what a ride it was. Yeah.

48:38Ronnie Karam: So they talk about how Giselle is in town because she did Beyond the Gates, the soap opera. And then they order a lychee martini which we're seeing a lot this week on bravo i didn't know people were still doing that lychee

48:50Ben Mandelker: martini thing i thought that was over i never got into it i have to say i've never really been that into lychee's they're like fine i just think they're like not amazing i don't know i'm gonna make it about me guys i don't know people why people are still doing i don't like them so i can't believe that society at large is still doing it yeah i just didn't know i thought that was like a fad that left but here it is yeah i felt very so um they're talking about porsche having to go

49:15Ronnie Karam: to court and um then we're talking about shamia and uh portia's like oh my god not you having bullet points and she's like yes i've talked to you all about y 'all's relationship and i've rooted for you all being better rah where are you today uh where are you and shamia today uh go ahead

49:37Ben Mandelker: we rest the case i don't have any hard feelings i'm just like not armoring anything against her anymore and so the producer asks like how do you feel about not being invited to gerald's surprise party that's her house and you know she doesn't want me to come then that's cool until the day that shimmy actually like comes by and brings drama to my face i'm still gonna speak to you with uh you know hey they are basically in a civility off right now because neither one of them wants to be the one that gets busted at the reunion so they are they are being extra nice to each other and like not not like popping off or anything or not being shady because they want to be they want to be the better person by the way this is also what people do outside of reality tv just in general when they interact with people this is actually called normal behavior but on this show it's like oh my god look at her not saying something awful about shamia yeah she's like

50:30Ronnie Karam: whatever hate me all you want to i don't i don't need to make it worse by being mean you know she's already lost her acting career god bless her so now outside a building there's a huge line and guess what it's people auditioning for pinky's show he can't pay you for this show yeah i think she still owes money to her line cooks from like four years ago why would you audition for pinky's show you're not getting paid we all know you're not getting paid what is this even about well it's

51:00Ben Mandelker: the first casting call for edgewood which is uh what the uh the name of this show is called edgewood

51:07Ronnie Karam: which is what the edges will be made out of because the budget is so low your edges are going to be popsicle sticks on this show so um it's it's i'm assuming it's the street that she was like raised on or something like that feels very much like that um so she says you know i

51:25Ben Mandelker: want people who can convey my story in a way where it feels natural and authentic like i need the best of the best yes that this forty thousand dollar tv pilot needs the best of the best to convey pinky cole's rise from maury povich producer to vegan purveyor in bankruptcy

51:48Ronnie Karam: so drew comes up and of course she's being driven um by the way i'd just like to remind everybody that drew also is broke and has no money to be why are you paying for drivers it just makes me crazy like if i see so if i see my friend struggling and they're like they show up with like an uber black look what are you doing you're gonna ask me for 20 later and you just took an uber

52:12Ben Mandelker: black come on yeah so uh so she's she's she pulls up danny the assistant that the has dropped her off danny who was uh was in the mix with the group last week um so there's a big line of people and and drew skips the whole line she's like i'm sorry i'm gonna take the uh julia roberts entrance thank you so much thank you thank you so she comes in and drew sees shamiya waiting and waiting to her audition andrew's like oh oh hi what's going oh my god i wasn't expecting to see you and uh basically they're giving they're doing the audition audition line uh sizing up of each other like really what what role are you going out for the role of pinky really oh okay wow i'm going up for that as well okay it's like very much an actress on actress violence moment and samia tells

53:08Ronnie Karam: us that pinky called out of the blue and said when i saw you in that movie don't bring your man to atlanta i felt i needed that kind of energy in my scripted series and i would love it if you'd audition it's like oh my god yes i will i do not have to make up make love to anybody do i as long as you can promise me there are no shirtless men anywhere near me gerald will be

53:29Ben Mandelker: fine with this so shimmy i was like send me the sides asap and um hopefully pinky didn't just send a whole bunch of like vegan mac and cheese and other sides um so drew and it's an acting joke guys sides are what people use when they're reading they're learning their lines when they're actors a little industry talk yeah i think they got it i think you're good a little so here's the thing when you're an actor there's dialogue and you have to memorize it and sometimes it needs to be written down first are you guys following me okay so drew's like oh you're auditioning

54:06Ronnie Karam: for this she's like yeah and she's like oh wow look at you you're so busy shamia auditioning for things she goes well what about you she goes oh i don't know the role so she goes you want to look at the lines she's like no i have a team that handles my booking and there's a way that works for actors it needs to go through my new manager kian and then with that there's a proper booking that takes place girl stop pretending you're not going through backstage like everybody else and showing up to cattle calls listen times are tough

54:45Ben Mandelker: listen i i in some ways i understand what she means because you know true true has a resume it is longer than what kate michelle says but like drew has act legitimate acting credits and Pinky is like this is like a podunk production and you know when you just want like a big name you don't make them audition you just book them I sort of get what she's saying that being said Drew we've seen what's been going on with your financials a job is a job so get those sides learn your lines

55:24Ronnie Karam: also what are you doing here?

55:27Ben Mandelker: and what are you doing here

55:29Ronnie Karam: if you're booked you don't go to the audition by the way she just shows up to the audition to not audition and be like oh yeah I don't do that to show her support isn't it even sadder that you're showing up like looking confused that you're not offered the role it's like she wanted to walk down right now I mean I don't care what anybody says she's fucking hilarious that she just shows up to this audition and then acts confused like audition what what would i be here to audition you're at an audition she i think she just wanted to walk in

56:01Ben Mandelker: front of that giant line of auditioners and be like oh i already got the job yeah so what you guys are gonna be auditioning for it's gonna be for a smaller role it won't be my role because i already got the lead like it was some weird ego boost thing and it was so hilariously diluted it's just like she just she always finds new and exciting ways to be ridiculous so we see a flashback to this phone call where drew is facetiming her and drew's like okay i'm gonna i'll text you my email

56:29Ronnie Karam: address and you can send me the material and pinky says okay and drew's like but i'm here to support her you know put on an audition no no do you want me to read it with you though person who has to audition for things i can do that i'm a charitable person shimmy is like um yeah well this is like a

56:50Ben Mandelker: real audition for me so you know it's okay she's like okay girl well i'm gonna leave you to learn your lines like an unbooked person would and i just want you to kill it seriously i just want that for you i want you to know what it's like to actually act on camera oh my god it's basically secondhand nature for me now i'm just gonna go in the room and remind everyone that i'm already

57:08Ronnie Karam: booked bye so she walks into the audition room and she's like oh my god tori hey oh we go way back she's an amazing actress so whenever i see her i'm like actor actor we give each other the actor high five which is where you pretend you're high-fiving but you don't actually do it

57:29Ben Mandelker: and drew's like oh i wasn't planning on auditioning which is by the way kind of rude to say i mean you're also there's like a panel of six people at a table and you're standing in front of them and then you're saying you're not auditioning so naturi is like um okay no i was just coming to support and i was just you know and just to do some guiding i want to guide on the process i you know i did learn the uda hagen method so wait hold on this is me feeling something okay thank you

57:57Ronnie Karam: thank you so much i'm done hold on i wanted to show you before i go the um uda hagen does method wait hold on brain freeze brain freeze thank you i just had some of that last night i'm not gonna

58:13Ben Mandelker: lie um he can does that's so silly so um so she's like i'm just here to support you and i'm just here to support you my girl but like i would never like want to come in here and just like half step it piggie's like okay well you know i'm disappointed i'm gonna be honest drew i wanted you to come and audition just no no i mean when you said that i was like an audition like me juiced or i mean i pretty much have an oscar so i said send me the script right and so now we hear pinky side she's

58:45Ronnie Karam: like so i called drew and i said come audition for this cattle call without a script without some oh no and drew goes come audition for a cattle call without a script without some signs like that's just not how it works and pinkie's like drew told me to send her the sides her manager got on the phone and said send it to me well i really do like to do things in a decent order we did give her all the agency information and she chose not to follow it really then how did you know what time the audition was and where it was yeah because you're here at the right time in the right room so are

59:22Ben Mandelker: you were you guessing you cannot tell me that pinky just never sent something i'm sorry pinky you can say a lot of things about pinky but i'm sure that she is the type that if you give her your email she writes that email right away i feel like she's very on top of shit like i do get that sense she may not be good with her money but like i think that she would have totally emailed the sides and based on what we saw of drew's team last week and just of what we've seen drew over the past five years or so like there's no way i believe that pinky was the one who fumbled this opportunity and her team acted in a normal and professional way well that's the thing because

1:00:00Ronnie Karam: drew's insinuating she told them to send the sides but they didn't but we don't actually get that out nobody says they didn't send the sides technically so which is it well pinky pinky does say that

1:00:11Ben Mandelker: because she says she never they never gave her the email address so she never said okay i see yeah she does say that it's uh in a little bit so she's like i don't have time to play cat and mouse with

1:00:21Ronnie Karam: drew so fine now you think you're too good for the project and she's like oh i've done box office movies but i never take any opportunities for granted this think he goes what box office fedex

1:00:33Ben Mandelker: box ups box what box office friend she's like you know at certain levels you know you know when my with my agent involved it's just like we got to do things the right way okay so she's like put some respect on my name check my imdb i've worked with john travolta martin lawrence and i have a movie out in theaters right now you may remember it's stars a man dressed in a spirit halloween shop alien costume killing me outside an suv that's great so that was really out in theaters i think it was the theater that that she showed it in that was it i i have to i can't imagine that it

1:01:10Ronnie Karam: had a theatrical release or very anything very wide so uh she's like okay well you ain't gotta go home but you gotta get the hell out of here she goes um i'm kicking me out are we kicking me out she goes yeah i'm kicking you out love you though she's like um i drove an hour why why did you drive an hour what are you here to watch the auditions and help them audition what does she

1:01:35Ben Mandelker: think she's doing i think she did she must have thought that that's what she was going to be doing i think she thought that she'd be sitting behind that desk and would be um she was going to be part of this panel so she's like shocked that she drove an hour and binky's like i love you i love you give me some love for real she's well i hope you felt the love and support because like now i'm not really feeling so great she's like well no i do love you i just i want you to audition but i understand i respect the craft i respect the craft it's like call me after call

1:02:01Ronnie Karam: keon after and he'll call me maybe and tell me that you're there okay i'm very busy very busy

1:02:08Ben Mandelker: biggie's like i thought that this was an audition and she did not say yes when i asked her she said send me everything and i asked her for the email and she never sent me the email okay well you

1:02:18Ronnie Karam: should have found a followed up her sides i mean for christ's sake you guys work on a show together

1:02:22Ben Mandelker: you couldn't get her email address i know that that was a little crazy and you should follow up if this is someone that big that you want to have come but i still think um i just still think true

1:02:32Ronnie Karam: is the more ridiculous in this situation they're both pretty ridiculous they're broke they're both

1:02:38Ben Mandelker: pretty ridiculous but i love it yeah shamiya does her audition though she comes in and she does it and um she actually does a pretty nice job i thought she was she was pretty decent and so pinky is like you know listen you came in here like i'm not going to try to pull the friend card i'm coming in to really audition for the role and people like you are going to succeed in real life this if there's anything that this audition process shows it's going to see who is going to really like explode in their careers depending on how well they do in people's auditions

1:03:12Ronnie Karam: And Shmi is like, even if I don't get the part, I'm on the right path. I've got this acting check. Rum check. I'm on my way. Who doesn't want to see an Oscar-winning actress with a rum bottle shaped like their ass?

1:03:28Ben Mandelker: I know.

1:03:29Ronnie Karam: This world is about to all be mine. All right, let's go to K. Michelle's house. She's like, I need a chandelier in here.

1:03:38Ben Mandelker: so phaedra is going to be coming over and uh k michelle says i have tried everything in my life not to like phaedra but when it comes to speaking what it is i feel like i'm most relatable to phaedra maybe there's something i can build a friendship from it is funny because she has tried to not like phaedra and phaedra has not given her anything to dislike but she keeps on trying to dislike her so finally she's kind of relenting and so she talks about how she is very southern. She goes, I said, let me bring her over and see what type of pie she brings to my house, and that will show me the type of woman that she is dealing with.

1:04:12Ben Mandelker: And she brought me a pecan pie, and what it says is that she is a nut, and I'm with it. It's a very literal interpretation.

1:04:22Ronnie Karam: I knew she'd respect southerness, and I want to see how much of a country girl she is. So she's going to take her fishing, and she's going to prove that she's southern by dipping hot dogs in Kool-Aid so they look like bloody whatever, bloody meat and throwing them to the fish.

1:04:41Ben Mandelker: And garlic powder too, don't forget. And garlic powder. She pulls up this like plastic, the Ziploc bag of this stuff. And Veja's like, what? Where did you get that from? She goes, oh, the Caucasian man with beards?

1:04:54Ronnie Karam: She watched One Duck Dynasty and now she's ready to go.

1:04:57Ben Mandelker: Yeah.

1:04:59Ronnie Karam: So neither one of them knows how to fish. which is very this show for all the talk about being a country girl like i don't even know how

1:05:08Ben Mandelker: to fish but i was like i i feel like this is not how you do it yeah they kind of put one of the

1:05:13Ronnie Karam: hot dogs on a hook and just kind of drop the the the string in there and then scream a lot yeah and then like flop around yeah so um phaedra's like well this is a beautiful start to being a newlywed now how do you feel because being a newlywed was hard for me it was very very hard i don't know if you've seen the past 10 seasons of the show but wow things things went bad we went from one romantic sexual pickle shoot everything went downhill after that power drills

1:05:46Ben Mandelker: in the garage it's a scary moment so then phaedra is saying um that she's like you got to make a vision board of what you see this relationship becoming you know and kate michelle's like you I just would like to remind best of friends. And she talks about doing IVF. And it was like the worst for her. And she felt like she went crazy. And she goes like, I mean, I was crazier than I am now. And Pedro makes a face like, wow, that's really crazy.

1:06:15Ronnie Karam: She's like, I'm going with the donor this time. And he's not against it because he wants a child from him. And that's still my child. So we're going to do it that way. And I saw you holding Shamia's baby. at the party. She's like, oh, she's so cute. I want one of the little babies like that. They're so cute. So now Phaedra gets messy, and she's like, but I noticed Portia wasn't invited. Do you know why? She's like, now, you know my Portia wasn't invited. Don't get messy in here. Do not get messy in here.

1:06:46Ben Mandelker: Yeah, exactly. I love the way Phaedra did that.

1:06:48Ronnie Karam: Do you know why?

1:06:49Ben Mandelker: And she gives that face like, eek. Oh, geez. How terrible. And Phaedra's like, well, I just wanted us to have, I just, when we when we say we're gonna have a good time we need to have a good time you know and you know you see that drew is going to be singing the national anthem soon and gamish is like well that is amazing for her and we see that drew has um sent out a text saying ladies please join me this saturday i want to serenade y 'all as i'm singing the national anthem at a charity event i thought this scene was really cute because it was phaedra coming back and being like a big sorority sister

1:07:24Ronnie Karam: to her she's like okay now i'm here to support you and i know you don't like being messy and this and that so we're gonna ease you into the mess okay i'm gonna hold your hand here do you know why porsha wasn't invited she's like uncomfortable okay so let's shift to something you're more comfortable with would you like to hate on drew here's an opportunity to hate on drew it's like so sweet you know it's like holding your hand so okay michelle's like oh like do you

1:07:53Ben Mandelker: to go to this thing with drew singing the national uh anthem and she's like oh she's like you don't want to come she's like she's like no so but why not and then we have a flashback to drew at the reiki dinner going yodel your ass out obviously you don't fit in i will i will yodel all up in your so she's like well where you tell me i don't belong now i don't belong around you at the bottom basically at the bottom child if we gonna we're all gonna get along sometimes we just gotta do things that might not be comfortable but for the greater good of the group but think about coming you should do that even though i

1:08:30Ronnie Karam: won't be there i'm already sick no can't go can't make it it's like okay well i'll send you some theraflu uh so then um we go to the rich and spirit celebrity charity softball game and drew

1:08:45Ben Mandelker: is arriving and she's excited to uh sing the national anthem because uh it's for rich homie kwan it's a memorial event and that and she was she's saying how he was a rising icon in atlanta and he and he passed away tragically and so rich as in spirit is throwing this event for the community and it's a big it's like a big important community building um event so she's really

1:09:08Ronnie Karam: honored to sing at it so um now we see a flashback to the day before talking about who's coming to this party. Angela's not going to come. It's just going to be Drew, Pinky, and Shamia once others leave early. So we come back, and Shamia's asking Drew if she wants to practice, and she's like, I'm already practicing. I practiced what I did, how professionals do it. Kion told my agent, my agent told my manager, my manager told a pianist, my pianist got the music, and I practiced it. And then

1:09:42Ben Mandelker: Shamia starts talking about how she's also sang the national or sung the national anthem um for the nfl and the nba and drew's like i know john travolta um she's like by the way how did your audition go how did that go for that sweet little production and pinky's like well she killed it you know by the way drew didn't audition everyone i was like i didn't audition for pinky cole's forty thousand dollar tv pilot so keon

1:10:09Ronnie Karam: comes up to get Drew ready for her big performance. She's like, I'm so grateful for Keon to take me out of there because I'm just seeing it. They're wearing me very, very thin.

1:10:20Ben Mandelker: And now other people arrive. Portia and Kelly show up and they release doves in the air. And now it's time for Drew to sing. And Drew does a good job. She sings a really nice version of the national anthem. And meanwhile, Kelly and Portia start talking and Kelly's like, hello, Portia. how are you today she's like i'm good how are you so they're being very polite and um then they're all watching and they're even like you know they're watching drew sing the song and even shamia is like i think drew did a good job even though shamia does not like true these days yeah so in the parking lot k michelle's still in her car and phaedra calls her and uh she's like

1:11:00Ronnie Karam: uh how are you doing she's like um but you're not here at this event where are you she's like Oh, unfortunately I can't make it. It's like, well, I'm just sitting in the car And she goes, well, salute to God Hallelujah So Phaedra had to

1:11:16Ben Mandelker: Skip the event because Mr. President tore his MCL And he had to get his knee drained Poor guy And then So Phaedra's like, are you going to get out of the car? You're going to get out of the car, right? You're not just going to sit in the parking lot in your car Like a lunatic

1:11:32Ronnie Karam: It's like, I'm just going to leave Okay, I'll go in and support the mom and everything in the family and tell them hello. But, you know, it's not even about Drew singing the national anthem today. I'm not supporting that. So she goes in and says hello to the family and stuff. And then Drew's shocked.

1:11:50Ben Mandelker: Drew's shocked that she's there. She's like, wait a minute. Really? You're here? Kay Michelle's like, yes, really. And then she goes, well, thank you for showing up. And she's like, how are you doing, Drew? She's like, why are you? And then Portia's like, why are you late? So Kay Michelle's like, girl. Andrew's like well she said she wasn't even coming And Cameron's like well I'm actually here for the family Not for you but I'm happy that we're here Drew's like what? You're not here for me? What? She's like yeah I'm checking for the family

1:12:19Ronnie Karam: Um so Uh she's like well I was sick And I don't like going places I don't belong So there But you know you did say that remember You shaded me by saying I didn't belong Andrew's like oh oh okay I understand It's just hard because you speak in like segments of sentences. So it's really hard to put the segments together. Okay, Michelle goes, so you don't understand what?

1:12:43Ben Mandelker: I know full sentences with punctuations and adjectives, especially when they've been sent on small pieces of paper so I can learn them before an audition that I'm not going to do anyway.

1:12:53Ronnie Karam: Punctuation and adjectives. I am Miss Florida A &M University. I got accepted into three law schools. I don't have to present anything to you.

1:13:03Ben Mandelker: Drew's like, so you're saying that I said something to you that you didn't like? Like, what did I say? She's like, a lot of things, Drew. She's like, well, I mean, you need to start speaking up for yourself.

1:13:13Ronnie Karam: She's like, well, I'm doing very good at controlling myself, and I've spoken up enough about it. Okay? She goes, well, I haven't heard anything. Did you send it to Keyon?

1:13:23Ben Mandelker: Shamira's like, so how did you feel about your performance? Oh, gosh, Kay, you didn't see it. Okay, let me show you it. I'm going to show you Drew's performance. I recorded it. And Kim, she's like, no, I'm good. I'm good. I don't need to say this. I'm going to go to the bathroom. This is my thing I do. I go to the bathroom when I don't want to deal with something.

1:13:38Ronnie Karam: She means, like, take it to the bathroom with you. Trust me, it's better when you're pooping.

1:13:44Ben Mandelker: Now, I heard she did good, you know. She's done it 50 to 11 times, so she should have had it done perfectly, you know.

1:13:50Ronnie Karam: And I'm going to keep doing it, too. I'm just going to keep doing it anywhere they'll allow me. And she's like, you should. So she gets up and grabs her purse, and we all know that she's about to bolt. And Shumia's like, leave your purse I'm going to keep your purse here She goes, no, no, I need it for the bathroom She goes, if you don't leave your purse, you're leaving

1:14:10Ben Mandelker: Yeah, so she's like No, okay, well, I'm just going to use the bathroom Excuse me And so she goes And then Kay is telling the producer Like, that motherfucker there, she knows me so damn well

1:14:24Ben Mandelker: So we go back to the table

1:14:28Ronnie Karam: And Shumia's like, wow, great note When you're like, free, free she's like yeah that was good time she goes baby free went on for three minutes you did your big one there that was your big one huh so they're like just you know chatting about this performance

1:14:43Ben Mandelker: and then they see outside we didn't mention this but we've segued from the softball game to a restaurant now and they're sitting at the table outside and they see on the other side of like the the fence that k michelle has hopped into her suv and she's driving off even leaving her bag

1:14:59Ronnie Karam: behind she left her purse there she didn't care she's like i don't care i'm out of here

1:15:05Ben Mandelker: so they're like what what they're like well this is crazy she means like you're leaving in my car

1:15:12Ronnie Karam: you're gonna drive the getaway car and leave me on the crime scene it's like she said i'm hungry and i don't even need my purse or anything like damn

1:15:22Ben Mandelker: true goes not she left the chanel i rattled her that much yeah i guess so she's like i have not done anything to this lady and if you're going to be a good friend of her you need to hold her

1:15:33Ronnie Karam: accountable to me it's like i'll hold you both accountable she's like but i never said anything to her that was negative she goes well it did feel like you kept saying her name with your dude oh my god what she said she was like black give me a break listen we come down on drew for a lot

1:15:48Ben Mandelker: of things but one thing that we both i think agree on is that like drew really was did not seem like she was dead set on trying to stir up something with black and k michelle and she knows it too so drew's like well you know i'm not gonna i'm not talking to the spokesperson honey you're

1:16:08Ronnie Karam: speaking things that are false and lies and shami is like well that's shit see you know what you did that last year when i was just trying to be nice she goes because you were being somebody's lap dog and now you're being her lap dog so let's keep it 100 she goes wow i'm sitting here saying I understand both sides. And you just called me her lapdog. You know what? I think you're rude. And I don't want to keep talking to you.

1:16:29Ben Mandelker: Well, she doesn't have a side. I'm letting you have the floor about what you feel. What does Shamia feel? Who is Shamia? She goes, oh, okay. Thank you, Drew. Thank you. Well, we don't know. We still don't know. And Shamia's like, you're already name-calling and being nasty to me. Girl, why am I even trying? Does Shamia know that calling someone a lap dog is not name calling i think she's like really caught up on the dog part of it because obviously it's you know no one wants to be called a dog and there's a storied history of calling women dogs and it's like not nice but like calling someone a lap dog is different when you call someone a lap dog you're saying that you are you're like advocating on behalf of someone sort of like you're almost like you're you're in a i i don't know i'm not even bothering getting the

1:17:13Ronnie Karam: definition but we all know what a lapdog is yes it's not Shamia's long-term thing that everybody is always saying that she does everything for Portia and she's always fighting Portia's battle and so now she's not friends with Portia and she thought she would finally escape that and they're still using it against her for this new thing but it's also true again um so now Kay's assistant comes to the patio to grab Kay's purse and Shamia's like I'm leaving too and Drew's like but I'm going to enjoy this lemon drop. So she's like, good luck with that next national anthem. Oh, good one, Shamia. And she's like, girl, I didn't even hear that, but I'm going to let it go.

1:17:56Ronnie Karam: So then outside the restaurant, Shamia is asking Kay to drop her off. She's like, at least give me a ride. And they start scream singing the national anthem out the window at Drew.

1:18:06Ben Mandelker: Because Kay Michelle's blasting it in her car. So shady. So silly. and that's pretty much the way the episode ends this show yeah this show a national anthem fight love it

1:18:19Ronnie Karam: alright everybody thank you so much for being here we will talk to you next time bye

1:18:28Ben Mandelker: watch what crappens would like to thank it's premium sponsors she answered the call it's Adia Paul ain't no thing like Alison King our way is the amber way it's the foster and the furious it's Amanda Foster It's Always Automatic with Ashley Otto Put your hands together for Carly Clapp Get on the right foot with Chrissy Offutt

1:18:48Ronnie Karam: She's not just a Sheila, she's a Daniela Itchles We never miss her call, it's Diane Call Sunday in the Park with Dylan Clark Big Yay, it's Emily Gauthier

1:18:59Ben Mandelker: Erin McNicholas, she don't miss no trick-a-less You'll never hide from Heidi Eleanor Jones I go, you go, we all go for Hugo Jamie, she has no less name-y

1:19:09Ronnie Karam: Zip some scotch with Jessica Trotch. She's a total knockout. It's Katie Manoch.

1:19:15Ben Mandelker: She's our favorite streamer, Caroline Peacock.

1:19:17Ronnie Karam: Kristen the Piston Anderson. Que sera, sera, whatever we'll be, we'll Lauren Sillsby. She gets an A from us. It's Lindsay D. Let's give a kisserino to Lisa Lino. Fresh as a daisy, it's Maisie McHenry. Megan Berg. You can't have a burger without the Berg.

1:19:35Ben Mandelker: This is Livin' with Michelle Vivian.

1:19:37Ronnie Karam: I love-a-ya, Olivia Williamson. She sure is swell.

1:19:41Ben Mandelker: It's Raquel.

1:19:42Ronnie Karam: Yes, we can-a. It's Sadana.

1:19:45Ben Mandelker: Cast a spell with Shannon Spellman. Let's share with Sharon Eldridge. Darn Skippy, it's Tippi.

1:19:51Ronnie Karam: And our super premium sponsors. She's VVIP, it's Amanda V.

1:19:56Ben Mandelker: Somebody get us 10 cc's of Betsy MD.

1:19:59Ronnie Karam: We're taking the gold with Brenda Silva. Let's get real with Caitlin O 'Neill. Put us on a stretcher. It's Charlotte Fletcher. Hogle your horses, it's Christine Hogle Don't get salty with Christine Pepper Can't have a meal without the Emily Sides

1:20:14Ben Mandelker: Who, what, why, where, and Gwen Pentland Nobody holds a candle to Jamie Kendall We got our wish, it's Jen Plish Have a kebab with K-Rob My favorite Murdo, Karen McMurdo Let's get savage with Laura Wildman In the study with a candlestick, it's Leslie Peacock We're ride or die for Lisa Ryder Barron She's a whiz, it's Liz Sarthy Always killing it, it's Lola Alkalani Roger that, it's Marlis Rogers

1:20:41Ronnie Karam: The incredible edible Matthews sisters She eases our woes, it's Melissa St. Rose She's the lady of the house, it's Rachel Sherouse There's a chance of meatballs, it's Rebecca Cloud She's our princess, it's Rebecca Prince

1:20:54Ben Mandelker: She's the queen bee, it's Sarah Lemke We cannot tell a lie, it's Sarah Tell of Sun Shannon, out of a cannon, Anthony Please don't stop at Soleil and Pop. Let's take off with Tamela Plain. Strike a pose, it's Tori Rose.

1:21:10Ronnie Karam: She ain't no shrinking Violet Kuchar. We love you guys.

1:21:18Ben Mandelker: Is your kid's birthday coming up? Don't stress the prep. The Party Shop at Michael's is your one-stop shop for everything from bluey to rodeo. Transform your space into a birthday wonderland with dream-worthy tablescapes and decor starting at$0.99. Plus, get free helium inflation on select balloon styles. Whether you're crafting a one-of-a-kind bash or grabbing the essentials, Michaels has everything to make their big day legendary.

1:21:44Ronnie Karam: Shop now and order ahead for delivery or in-store pickup. Michaels, everything to celebrate anything.

1:21:51Ben Mandelker: With almost half a million customers and over a trillion dollars of secure payments, Bill isn't new to intelligent finance. It's the proven way to simplify bill pay and maximize cash flow. Want to learn more? Visit bill.com slash proven for a special offer.

1:22:08Ronnie Karam: Hi, I'm Liv Perez from the Let's Get Dressed podcast, and this episode is presented to you by Depop. If you've been meaning to clean out your closet, but it feels so overwhelming, my best piece of advice for you as a fashion expert is to start with one thing. Depop. Depop makes it so simple to give your pieces a new home. Just snap a photo and their AI-powered listings fill in all the details for you. And here's the best part.

1:22:30Ben Mandelker: Make money easily with no selling fees on Depop.

1:22:33Ronnie Karam: No seller fees means that you earn exactly what is yours. Another perk, there is someone out there who's going to love that piece the way that you did. And who doesn't love making room for something new too. Download the Depop app and list your first item today.