#3401 Crappy Hour Crappy Hour 6/8: Summer House Smoke

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1:54Ben Mandelker: Who cares what happens when there's so much that happens?

2:24judgy girls for courtney over there so just you know it's just one of those marathon days of

2:29Ben Mandelker: podcasting how's everything going for you down in the city super fun had a great time chatting with her she's so funny had a really nice time how's everything in the city well i did her on friday

2:40Ronnie Karam: did that yeah friday got her uh partner there corny took off a long time she's gone for like

2:46Ben Mandelker: three weeks three weeks gallivanting around europe lucky duck what the hell no kidding yeah oh i just i'm saying this right now in the comments love you guys ben thanks for the fitted sheet video i watch it and i will still be crumpling up my sheets and stuffing them in the closet you're very welcome i hope you enjoyed a glimpse at my shorts that i wore 13 years ago

3:07Ronnie Karam: my actually caught on people were loving that fitted sheet were they yeah

3:14Ben Mandelker: well thank you all for watching contributing to the video's success

3:19Ronnie Karam: yes they were loving it um crappy hour stories open here what the hell well while you do that i can out of it yeah you see that lenny just got um lenny's in trouble for drugging a woman and sexually assaulting her where's my father

3:39Ben Mandelker: i'm going to tmz right now guys going right now came out okay back to the future star crispin glover no my ex's sex slave claims are bogus that's not it okay next one mike and jen rabel no okay marcus jordan well that does actually that is that is in our world marcus jordan here's the update the headline life's a peach in south beach okay moving on now let's see comment okay all right i think i have to this is i have to do a good old okay lenny

4:12Ronnie Karam: hockstein lenny hockstein sued by a woman claiming he drugged and sexually assaulted her on tm oh there we go uh i've never drugged or raped anyone in my life this is an encounter i had over a year ago there are multiple witnesses if she believes she was raped she should go to the police not try to sue for money there's a video of her leaving my home the next day smiling and dancing that's not the behavior of someone who believes she was raped sir you should just not be making any comments seriously send it to the lawyers buddy lenny hockstein is being accused of turning a glamorous miami night into a nightmare according to a lawsuit filed by jane doe according to court documents obtained by tmz the woman claims a celebrity plastic surgeon lured her to a star island mansion under the guise of an exclusive after party gave her a drug and sexually assaulted her.

5:02Ronnie Karam: Jeez. Wow.

5:05Ben Mandelker: Well, I can't believe that Lenny Hoxian is being accused of doing something shitty. It just seems so out of character for him, doesn't it?

5:13Ronnie Karam: Yeah. Well, you know, I expected a super sensitive statement. And that's what we got.

5:19Ben Mandelker: That's what we got from him. Yeah. Terrible. Absolutely terrible. He's a piece of garbage, and it'll be interesting to see how that turns out. Um, okay. Well, that's, uh, I guess that just broke. So we'll see how that, that pans out. Um, another thing that happened that I was just talking to Mary about is over the summer, I mean, over the weekend, Kyle, Craig, and Austin took a photo together and everyone's like, what's going on? do you think um do you think this isn't uh this means that craig and and uh kyle are on good terms again i was of the mindset that the answer is no but they just brought out to do a photo together but like that they still have deep resentments towards each other that will not be resolved

6:12Ronnie Karam: uh they're guys on bravo they forgive yes okay moving moving they're just like whatever i said that thing about didn't they make up a long time ago i don't know if they truly made up i don't

6:26Ben Mandelker: know i thought that kyle was on page's side during the breakup so i thought things were all ruined

6:31Ronnie Karam: ruined for oh right right i thought this was still about the the you know craig was taking a an ad for somebody that wasn't lover boy but you're talking about the uh page breakup okay

6:44Ben Mandelker: well that makes more sense yeah i'm going yeah craig doesn't let things go as easily no i think that kyle also just thinks that craig's a moron i think kyle is like i know i don't want a real business this guy's just the the cover the cover boy for some stupid thing with linen and stuff so i think that will continue to rage on yeah um so those two i don't know like guys from

7:09Ronnie Karam: bravo taking a picture with each other is never anything that's really controversial to me hmm yeah right did you see the kyle making out with a fan thing um i did not see that let me go look at it kyle kissed somebody in the front row of his concert and he's like ah

7:25Ben Mandelker: finally some evidence some evidence of what okay i'm looking at the video right now because

7:33Ronnie Karam: because amanda kept saying oh you were you were making that making out with someone there's video kyle but we've never seen the video so he's like oh finally evidence me making out with somebody he's like that girl was in the front row the whole time she deserved it really

7:48Ben Mandelker: she deserved to make it so i'm seeing the video he's talking to her he does look drunk and she kisses it was um if i were in a relationship we just see the back of her head no i'm saying he looked drunk sorry um i will say you're like i detect by her dry hair that she is drunk you know i would say like if he is in a relationship you say i would detect by her dry hair that she's trying yeah i i think that like if i were in if like that were my husband i would not have loved that video i would have been like what the fuck are you doing but i will also say not to mitigate it but i guess i will mitigate it it was like a very quick kiss like she clearly was like i want to kiss you they kissed and then he pulled away but still if he was with amanda that is definitely i think not good yeah um no he wasn't with amanda this was just recently oh well that's fine it was nothing it's a big nothing yeah it's just i don't know no it's not you bring it up it's saying it's meaning that like they have this whole they have this whole article on tmz summer house cooking up a kiss he made it like they made it seem like oh my god this is going to be some blazing hot crazy scandalous you know makeout session and it was literally just like a girl a fan talking in his ear and she clearly said something like i'd love just to kiss you and then they kissed for like like two seconds max and then

9:18Ronnie Karam: it was done yeah man i watched we i mean we talked about this on today's show and we'll talk about it again in the bonus this week but i just watched six hours of love island yesterday um a i don't think i'm ever getting a boner again and b i don't i'm surprised that i'm just not making out with everybody today like it's just so normal to just pass by someone and be like there's a guy on there that kisses like this okay this is the girl and then this is how he kisses is that gabriel oh

9:48Ben Mandelker: the brazilian guy yeah he really that tongue really like a lot tongue first it's not even like they all tongue kiss but he literally starts like that yeah he licks up their whole face and it's like he's really hot but then that tongue does come out and you're like bro put that thing away that's too much like work your way up to that like but don't like you know we don't need you to like mop up the face before you go in for the kiss not mop it up i mean that's wet wetting

10:18Ronnie Karam: it i guess it's like what it's a wet jet swiffer wet jetting it yeah it's too much he's like really

10:26Ben Mandelker: i find him to be really really hot but i also find him to be like i don't know i i think he's

10:33Ronnie Karam: i think he's trouble i think he's total trouble oh yeah the boy from uh miami yeah there are a couple of miami boys on there that are gonna be some trouble yeah no one's worse than the new guy the new bombshell oh i haven't gone to him yet i can't wait this guy oh and he's the hottest one

10:52Ben Mandelker: but he's also yeah oh i can't wait that's what's happening right after this is i'm catching up i just have two episodes to catch up and then there'll be tonight's episode of course

11:02Ronnie Karam: so yeah you know um it's okay but it's just so many germs i i'm not opposed to making out obviously it's just making out like that like literally with everybody you pass i mean they start it and they just all make out with each other it's like okay ariana doesn't even try and come up with a game anymore she's like okay welcome to the show okay you turn make out with that person then just go down the line and make out with everybody yeah i thought that was like doing reps she's like pulling reps she's just working out the whole time with her eight pack or whatever she's like oh yeah are you guys still making out okay i'm on my second uh round of reps

11:36Ben Mandelker: here yeah seriously when they all had to like open the door in that first episode when they all open the door and they all just like made out with each other i was like okay this is just lazy i feel like they shouldn't actually like encourage that only because i think that there should be like higher stakes for kissing someone the first time and if they all kiss each other during the challenge yes i know as to like understand chemistry but like i don't know i think it like it makes the challenges more exciting if you're like oh my goodness like i'm finally going to use use this as an excuse to make out with someone not that it's that exciting for the audience but i just think like let's not like truly shoot our wad right in the like the first i mean check the stock market did the did

12:14Ronnie Karam: milk tank because the milk is free okay is anybody buying the cows anymore the stock cows just went

12:23Ben Mandelker: down yeah yeah no the cows people don't want to people don't want to buy those cows those cows are just roaming around the discount aisle at this point you know it's hard yeah it's hard so let's

12:34Ronnie Karam: see what every make out so i mean i was on the train and i had my hand on the bar you know yeah and then i wiped my eye and i've literally been checking for pink eye all day i'm like oh no while these people are just sticking their tongue right down each other's throat you don't know these people and you know you're all sluts every single one of you men and women you know you're

12:53Ben Mandelker: all all sluts doing on the subway you know they have those new uh poles that you can hang on to where they sort of diverge in the center and it becomes two poles then becomes one again so weird what heart yeah do that i think it just creates more surface area to hold on to and so they're painted yellow where it becomes two poles but a lot of them are just back down to being metal like a lot of the yellows come off and i just think of like also just like not only the germs but i'll just like the yellow paint that's just on people's hands that just peeled off over the years. It's gross.

13:21Ronnie Karam: Yeah. My friend used to say the metal on the train makes germ free because it's like naturally kills the germs or whatever, but you somehow with the yellow. Yeah.

13:30Ben Mandelker: I don't understand that.

13:31Ronnie Karam: Nobody holds the thing. They all put their hand in the middle of it. Like the curve. They're

13:35Ben Mandelker: like, Oh, do they? I haven't noticed. I mean, that's what I was doing. Guys, I'm like a subway influencer. The new way to hold the, to hold the bars is put your hand right in the curve. It's like a cradle. It's disgusting.

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17:16Ben Mandelker: Wow. See, maybe she was able to book a gig directly, of course, without auditioning. And it's able to get that extra time in the house. so according to new legal docs obtained by tmz a judge in georgia changed course friday and said the real housewives of atlanta star no longer has to leave the georgia mansion she shares with a strange husband ralph pitman so i guess she just had a an angel in a judge for her but uh they were originally she was supposed to supposed to go home leave not not stay there i had a couple of

17:50Ronnie Karam: Kim Zolciak stories on here, but then I kept searching for stories and there are so many Kim Zolciak divorce stories and each one is grosser than the other. So we can skip those. But man, those two just need to get it over with. I mean, they're really bad. It's like he's doing this and she's doing that and he's doing this and he's going on he's taking the vacation on kids with the porn star and she's, you know, fucking people right in front of the kid. I mean, these stories are like really just never gross. kim zolciak just continues to be it's terrible those kids are all gonna be like they're gonna

18:25Ben Mandelker: be disasters i always thought the kids were gonna be disasters okay i know we're not supposed to like make fun of kids or whatever kids are off limits but i've always i always thought like just seeing them all that whole brood i was like these kids are gonna be disasters these two twins they're gonna be the ones that are gonna like they're gonna get into some bad at some point but now it's like that was always my suspicion but now like they this divorce is so bad for these kids like oh my god how like i know why can't they just both just shut the hell up sign the papers and

18:58Ronnie Karam: move on with their lives and as far as talking about the kids i mean we're not saying anything about the kids but you don't have to talk about the apples to see that the tree is diseased yeah what i mean anything that comes off that tree is going to have a problem yeah that's going to be a

19:12Ben Mandelker: bad tree doesn't be that that's not a that's it's uh it will bear many fruits but none of the fruits will be edible it's that's just uh it's god it's it's great it's been rancid fruits speaking of

19:26Ronnie Karam: rancid trees brandy glanville claimed a couple weeks ago that she now has std related ringworm of the throat brambi stop talking yeah stop talking and what is your obsession with worms i mean first she said she had a worm in her face yeah then nobody could find the worm in her face and dr terry kind of hinted like i didn't find a worm i mean if dr terry can't find the worm yeah i think there was a worm in your face now you got a worm in your throat do you think she's just got a warm issue like where she like paranoia but i mean we definitely saw something was

20:05Ben Mandelker: happening with her face right like something was happening fillers and whatever you know you think it all just you think it was just like a bad reaction to fillers and then she started going everywhere and saying it was a parasite yes i think yeah i think probably it was a lot

20:20Ronnie Karam: of really bad fillers that ended up moving and melting and doing all sorts of shit you know i don't know how well you know there was maybe drug use i don't know allegedly i don't know

20:31Ben Mandelker: um just reading the cheekbones aaron says it's that a worm with a mustache i uh she was watching the season of vanderpump rules the scandal of all season you know um karamo posted um pictures of himself because he had a buccal removal surgery in 2021 and it like something happened with a salivary gland or whatever and his cheek swole up and went crazy and so he's been for some reason he's on some sort of publicity tour maybe he has a book coming out or whatever or maybe it's just a counter the fact that the Queer Eye guys are on a publicity tour for the Emmys so he is now all of a sudden everywhere being annoying as usual and he is talking about how he's been suffering from this buccal fat removal thing and he's had to have so many corrective surgeries and life has been hard and difficult so So the point is there could be a lot of things that could mess up your face, including a botched surgery, a botched buccal, buccal, botched buccal.

21:30Ronnie Karam: Yeah, I just think when you get, you know, that and listen, I'm not against filler or whatever, but I think there gets to be a point where I think it's obvious to everybody else. I think maybe Brandy's either going kind of cuckoo or she's just on too many things because it's just too many worms in your face. you know at this point it's like okay when you're crying worm two times

21:54Ronnie Karam: that's a problem i mean i think that there's probably something you only get two worms you only get two worms one solid worm complaint you know what i mean yeah i feel as long as

22:04Ben Mandelker: long as we're talking about like disgusting things uh or unsanitary things or things going into throats something that really got people really rattled while we were doing our cabaret there's this video of west and amanda they were in italy and uh amanda spat in west's mouth

22:27Ronnie Karam: that is disgusting i've only seen that in porn and i really don't get it years ago when i guess that started i mean i had never seen that before someone spitting in mouths it was like probably 10 years ago or something and i was at gay pride um and i was walking home you know when i lived in west hollywood i was walking home from pride and there was a hot guy on the street and we were wasted you know so we just gave each other a look and started making out and then he like pulled my head back to like look in my face you know how people do that and then he spat in my face and i smacked him as hard as i could i felt like i was just it was just like my knee-jerk reaction to being spat at in the face like yeah who does that and then he started crying and i was like you don't look at the craft you just spat in my face he's like it's normal and then i told my friends and then he said it's normal and they were like yeah like really you guys are just spitting in each other's faces now have i been off the market that long that we're just spitting in each other's faces what the fuck and now amanda and west are appropriating our culture yeah fully spitting but

23:31Ben Mandelker: i also have seen like i've like i know people like spit during sex and everything but this was like at a cafe in Italy. This was not some kinky moment to be literally swapping spit. This was like you're in Italy and you're being awful Americans right now. Why are you spitting into each other's mouths? And also, Wes, can you go to a new country? You're just always going to Italy. Come on, spread your wings. There are other countries to go to. He's so limited.

23:59Ronnie Karam: They do still love a mullet in Italy, though. I work there a lot. They do. There was a lot of mullet action. Maybe it just feels comfortable there.

24:06Ben Mandelker: I'm really mad at the limited scope of his tourism. He's just always going to Italy. And she is too. They both are only going to weddings in Italy all the time. Italy is amazing. It's beautiful. It's a gorgeous country. I would go back as much as possible. But try to mix it up a little bit.

24:21Ronnie Karam: Maybe it's just basic bitch wedding destination right now.

24:26Ben Mandelker: Well, now Carrie says it was smoke. Carrie in the comments says it was smoke lols. So maybe it wasn't spit. So it looked like spit. and maybe she was blowing smoke either way you know what the hang when the hanger opens up it's only for a little plane that has food on a fork it is not for the other hanger to belch into so whether the whether the leather hanger number two is sending out spit smoke or anything else when hanger number one should only be receiving one type of entity and none of it is as described above

25:00Ronnie Karam: yeah i'm not sure people are saying smoke in the comments i've been reading spit too I'm hoping it's smoke because yikes, but maybe they think it's like the local custom because probably everywhere they're going people are just spitting at them. I'm like, oh my god, that's just how they do it in Italian in Italy. Hey, honey. They're probably like, oh, Samantha, we've had it with you, you pigs. How dare you do this to Sierra?

25:26Ben Mandelker: Sierra's a princess. How dare you do this to some British friend, Sierra? yeah they're just like also they've been there they've been there quite a while i guess so the whole thing is that they're there to avoid the reunion which of course makes so much sense that of course they would do that they would go to it to avoid anything right before the reunion and

25:45Ronnie Karam: people were like are they going to stay a month because they're that's a lot of avoiding that's a lot that's a lot they are they're there a long time i know i think at some point i am a little

25:55Ben Mandelker: bit jealous to it frankly i want to spend a month in italy should we do crappings in italy who's stopping you no one myself depressing realities of life um you know let me hold you back go to

26:14Ronnie Karam: italy what the fuck do i care i'll zoom with you in italy why don't we both go to it now it's not

26:18Ben Mandelker: a good time though it's very hot i know i know the one time i did go to italy was in august of uh what was the two was that remember remember i missed i was so distraught that i missed um being able to recap uh boat ride from hell on roni but it was august and it was boiling hot every place every place was like 110 degrees in italy it was crazy yeah italy they really believe

26:41Ronnie Karam: here's what they believe in carbs making out and jesus here's what they do not believe in air conditioning yep they're just like you sweat this is your pace and you walk up a mountain first and then you just sweat yeah yeah that's the fun of italy i'll wait i'll wait on that well i'm

27:01Ben Mandelker: gonna go back to norway here i am complaining about that they keep going back to the same country but i am going back to norway this fall which i'm excited about but uh cat sky says i

27:10Ronnie Karam: didn't even know italy gets that hot i didn't either and then i went i was like oh my god and it wasn't that hot it wasn't as hot as it could have been when i went for sure because i I went in May, right? That was in May. Yeah. Something like that. And it was beautiful. Like, I'm not even dissing Italy. It was stunning. And I did ride around on a vest, but like, I loved it, you know, but girl, when it got hot there, I didn't even know I had sweat glands in my butt. My butt was like, please help me do something, anything.

27:40Ben Mandelker: It was hotter than you can imagine when I went, I went to Pompeii and it was blazing, blazing, blazing hot. I think it was over a hundred degrees, but of course I couldn't tell because it was centigrade. and I was I was too hot to even do the conversion I was just they're like you know they're always like oh my god it's 22 degrees centigrade I was like I have no idea what that means all I know is that I am melting in Pompeii right now and honestly like my favorite part was going into the brothel that they take you into on the tour because it was like inside and it was cold in

28:08Ronnie Karam: there I was like thank god for the brothel that brothel in Pompeii I saw Pompeii too well first of all love their street signs their penises so i thought that oh yeah but um their brothel was like one room with like a lot of like bunk bed type things made out of stone i was like can i have

28:23Ben Mandelker: some privacy geez but i like with a brothel that they had they had pictures of all the sexual acts that were painted on the wall so you'd go in and be like i would like that please or like that please i was like wow it's like when you go into a restaurant and all the all the food items are

28:39Ronnie Karam: just like that's just on the wall where you're like that's how people are they're like what would you like what do you like are you a waiter could you maybe just try some things i don't want

28:48Ben Mandelker: to like make a list um super vixen says in 1994 i went to italy in august i fainted at the statue of david because of the heat well i mean if there's anywhere to faint it's in front of that man although we have learned that that statue that was outside was actually a replica and it was the real david's inside so you you fainted at a replica unless you fainted inside which case that's that's even more dramatic and i love that for you okay so speaking of butt sweat did

29:15Ronnie Karam: you hear that summer house star kyle cook is hooking up with southern charm sally carson what

29:23Ben Mandelker: you okay why i feel like is always linked to people she is linked to a lot of people she is trying to link she has she has put velcro on her hands and she's just hoping someone walks by and she's just gonna try to like attach right on that's the vibe i'm getting with her

29:44Ronnie Karam: yeah and then she puts posts like she does a lot of vague booking where she'll post yeah hey to all the girls who are sick of taking it from the man to girls who aren't gonna say yes to stupid men anymore and then she's like doing like a little tick tock dance people are like what

30:02Ben Mandelker: are you talking about i have to say i am like over sally i am just over her i don't know what it is i i really liked her her first season you've never really been a fan of sally though have you i think that her first season i i liked her but then last season she just i found her to be exhausting and now i'm just over it i just um i i the the i'm just i i just don't you know i just I'm not sure I find her to be entertaining enough. I think the chicken thing is really what turned me. When she bought those chickens for Craig, I just was so upset at that that I just knew that there was just no way to come back.

30:39Ronnie Karam: I liked it. I thought it was like a new twist on the having a baby to keep a man thing. It's like, you're just getting chickens, you know?

30:46Ben Mandelker: Chicken babies. It's like less commitment. Yeah.

30:49Ronnie Karam: Yeah. And you go through the whole gamut of what that entails. Like, this will make everything okay. and then it's like happy for two seconds i'm so happy for you and we're shopping for cribs and then you know fast forward a year later he's already cheating on you and out of there but it was so truncated that you know those chickens are probably already eaten by now yeah they definitely are

31:12Ben Mandelker: yeah i think um i don't know like look they're both adults hook up if you want to but i just think that um i don't see that one having legs personally i think it's probably just like a fun fling when they're at bravo con or in the same town or he's djing but yeah i don't i don't think so do you by the way do you know anyone who's going to fan fest that because that's happening in charleston no me neither i haven't heard much about it isn't it like a miami i thought it was miami it's in charleston it's charleston this year the only thing i know about it is that people are keep asking do you know someone anyone's going to fan fest i'm like i don't know i don't know anybody yeah that's sort of it's interesting it's an interesting choice i mean it's a smart choice because they've got a lot of charleston stuff down there but um yeah they do the bra they do

32:03Ronnie Karam: bravo con one year and then fan fest another year and then they go back to doing bravo con or

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34:52Ben Mandelker: so um let's see so kyle is not a relationship guy he should remain single i actually think kyle should remain single for a little bit i think he will i think that he i think he's he's gonna want to go on this dj ride and he's gonna want to make out with a lot of people and i think he's going to sow the wild oats that he pretended he didn't need to sow anymore and i think he's going to go and have a fun journey as DJ Kyle Cook.

35:17Ronnie Karam: I'm wondering if Kyle gets boners when he's drunk, because this whole thing of like, oh, you're DJing till four in the morning. And then there are a lot of good points made. Like, well, if he was banging people, there would be so many videos. I mean, look at Wes and Amanda. There's a picture of them blowing smoke or spit into each other's face. Or it's like, oh, look, Wes just went poop in Italy. You know, there's pictures everywhere. So I feel like there would be more videos and stuff if he was actually cheating all the time. But then that led me to the question, why isn't he cheating all the time?

35:49Ronnie Karam: And I'm wondering if he's just like a non-boner when drunk kind of a guy, and then he's drunk all the time. Yeah, that could definitely be it.

35:58Ben Mandelker: It could definitely be it.

35:59Ronnie Karam: I don't know. I spent a lot of time wondering about Kyle's boner.

36:04Ben Mandelker: You know what happens? Speaking of Kyle and boner, things that might kill a boner, I love this link that you pulled up hot take Amanda Batula's pony bun is not the enemy I am so excited to hear what this is about that ponytail has you know what's so funny because I didn't even think anything of it with her ponytail but then seeing how like her bun yeah the way it like swoops out then comes back in and seeing how people are so mad about it makes me love this stupid ponytail not fashionably but i love the idea of it that we have this thing to talk about i don't know why i love like i love the weird idiosyncratic elements that come out of a scandal and the ponytail is

36:48Ronnie Karam: like one of my favorites to emerge from this yeah you know i think it's just like the no effort of it all yeah i think i think something that also bothers people is that amanda went from being this like fashionista you know because when paige was around she's like okay i'm going to be as fashionable as possible and she was like trying to be like model fashion all the time and then the second she started dating kind of a hippie grubby loser like west she immediately wanted to become a hippie grubby loser and i think that's one of the things that's annoying about it you know it's like oh here you go just like grabbing onto somebody else's personality and sucking off that instead of doing anything or you know instead of being your own person and also this week we see her i just watched the screen or we see her in the city packing up to leave her apartment with kyle and that's her packing hair too you know it's like that's really it's like you're in your sweats and you're packing and it's just like no effort you know like you put everybody through all this in the season and you just show up like yeah i'm gonna throw my hair and i'm i don't know

37:54Ben Mandelker: what do you think is the right hair to have if you're coming into a reunion to show contrition if you have amanda's hair what do you think is the right look i don't even

38:04Ronnie Karam: listen i don't even think she should have been showing contrition i mean should she have yes but i'm not requiring that she shows uh contrition i say grow up with lindsey show up with lindsey hair like i'm a badass i don't care hair if you're gonna go that wrong you know just i don't know do something like we all got a we all kind of got out of bed to watch you you could at least look

38:24Ben Mandelker: like you got out of bed to be here yeah i think that like if you're coming in i guess it's it's more like what is apology tour here and i think that like if you're really trying like to just

38:38Ronnie Karam: shave it like you're being punished on game of thrones where they just shave your head

38:44Ben Mandelker: i think that like it should have just been big tails i think that like you know i um well it's so funny uh dom was watching that documentary which he was watching with his headphones in because i was like i need to do some work he's like okay i'm gonna watch this documentary with my headphones in so that way it doesn't interrupt you while you're writing or whatever or reading and then of course i proceeded to not do my work but i just watched the documentary along with him but didn't have any sound because i do that on airplanes all the time so he watched the documentary about this car crash that was i think it's called the crash

39:17Ronnie Karam: or something that's on not tell me the end of this because this is like the biggest thing right now

39:21Ben Mandelker: and i want to i'm not telling you the end but what's so funny is it's about this high schooler and she crashes this car with her boyfriend in it and friends and when before the car accident and she's like an influencer she's all done up and she's like like i'm doing like she's doing all the tick tock things whatever like going out whatever but then when she's on trial they really you can see they really they took away all like no makeup whatsoever which i'm not even sure she had access to that but they definitely made her look as much like a sweet little innocent girl as possible and i think that's what um amanda needed to do she needed to play on social biases and just be like i'm just a sweet girl don't be mad at me and instead she just went with this

40:10Ronnie Karam: weird ponytail this like teacup handle kind of was doing that because she she was wearing that like weird east like little kids easter dress and you know just a hair and like a little ponytail i mean i don't know i think some of these answers are funny though in the comments it says um let me see like contrite hair is bad baby bangs that's penance um someone said she should be wearing lindsey hair with the turtleneck

40:40Ben Mandelker: yeah i think actually bangs yeah low bun i was thinking bangs in a weird way like like a like a i don't know maybe the ponytail was supposed to be like look i'm gonna be open i'm pulling everything back nothing is hot i'm not hiding anything but i think like maybe um yeah i think like i think i say just go for it just do like ponytails and we're just like a like a jumper or something she just comes in like a school girl in a form i just pulled a little

41:11Ronnie Karam: white polo i just pulled the link because i think it's so funny how everything is a story with amanda and wes like people really can't get enough and like every little thing becomes this huge thing and it was just cracking me up that it became a huge issue this this bun you know you're like pony bun people really got upset to the point where they had to write a whole article about it and that's like a big publication who wrote about that newbeauty.com so the um i thought it was like vanity fair the bun is not the issue well they asked where did the inspiration for the pony bun

41:49Ben Mandelker: come from and they said uh the the stylist said i can't take it that's another thing you hired a

41:55Ronnie Karam: stylist for that that's crazy it's like when you pay a task rabbit to put your ikea furniture together and they leave and it just falls on the ground it's so annoying like you paid somebody for

42:06Ben Mandelker: that come on so here is what the um the vision was so uh the the stylist olivia some such and such says i can't take credit for creating the look we've seen versions of it on kim kardashian and hailey beaver and on the runways of major fashion houses we took inspiration from those moments and adapt it to match amanda's signature effortless chic style while balancing the femininity of the makeup and the outfit

42:33Ben Mandelker: yeah we've seen a bun before her signature effortless chic style i'm like did you see the picture of her blowing the smoke into wes's mouth and please tell me about effortless chic

42:44Ronnie Karam: again did you see casey from um garbage world's bitch sesh her video where she was like um i have had it she's like telling off amanda and she's like you do we need to drug test on bravo and i will not stand by for any of these people coming in here on drugs and refusing to take accountability making the point like amanda was so um drug to the teeth during that reunion so she didn't have to feel things that she didn't take any accountability and that we shouldn't allow drugs on bravo anymore we should allow people to we should force people to show up and feel the emotions because we are the audience yeah you know and well first of all i loved casey's video because i was like oh my god the passion but you can't take drugs away from bravo what the are we going to watch yeah exactly this network is fueled on drugs fueled by drugs everyone there

43:39Ben Mandelker: was a lot of talk about how amanda seemed like she was drugged up i actually didn't well of course i was like i didn't really get that but of course i always say that i'm always like what really i'm naive but i didn't i didn't really get that i thought she was just like trying to like i felt like she was just trying to keep her mouth shut but like she wasn't very good at when she opened it like she really has been doing so badly i'm really excited to see the screener later later uh tonight or tomorrow whenever but um she's yeah she's doing a very terrible job with this reunion she's doing such a bad job she really could have done this reunion in a way where west could have taken all the blame like there's there was a way where she could have emerged like she could have saved her reputation a little bit but she's actually made it worse during this reunion

44:28Ronnie Karam: so one day before lindsey made some comment this isn't about the bun anymore the drugs but this is a different thing so andy went on his radio show and um someone asked a fan asked about amanda walking off the stage uh he says one of our big questions was what was the length of time that amanda left the stage and came back and in that time did she get new pills in that time she seemed really pissed and it seemed like a lot of time and cohen shared that was a good question before saying at least 15 minutes i'll say 20 20 or more and lindsey uh responded on threads um that was an hour it was definitely an hour if not more so yeah because didn't they break for lunch that's no they didn't oh no they sat out there and they talked remember because they were like okay now we'll ask them some questions and ben was like oh i'd love to talk about my missus no one is more charming than sabrina bell my father she hugged my father so much my father hugged me for the first time since i was three remember i think oh my god i touched me i yeah

45:42Ben Mandelker: i think it's had to have been about an hour they like andy had the frustration of someone who was waiting longer than 20 minutes because i i always imagine that it's about 20 minutes when someone leaves so like he really was he was getting annoyed he's like well i'm gonna ask these questions but i guess we're just gonna hop around and do it this way and said thanks a lot you know uh so i think for sure they were waiting a very long time yeah um what else do you like on here

46:08Ronnie Karam: let's see oh brandon hansen defends taking money from britney cartwright oh gosh this guy this guy is just such a gross guy okay brandon hansen spoke out on x of course not even on threads why am i not surprised britney's boyfriend not even on threads on x on x brandon spoke out on x and said um people were calling him lazy into deadbeat and uh he said oh god sorry there's an

46:45Ben Mandelker: ad shut up it's not the door it's not playing through we can't hear it yeah well guys you know

46:52Ronnie Karam: what if you want your dog to feel better give him hill's prescription diet there you just heard it so he says when she's a millionaire and she wants to help me or give me money to come hang out why would i decline that one week worth of money paid my rent for the month and put food on the table for my kids she didn't have to do anything she offered it wasn't a matter of me affording a week off i was able to still make half my money at work by using pto and she covered my bills for the month Why would I turn that down? That makes no sense. Oh, you could turn it down because you're her partner. That's why you could turn it down because you're her partner and she shouldn't have to pay you for coming to take care of her.

47:28Ronnie Karam: And you didn't even get her pills. You probably did them. You probably crushed them up and snorted them in the front seat of that car.

47:34Ben Mandelker: Yeah, whatever, whatever loser.

47:36Ronnie Karam: Oh, it's so gross. And of course that's the guy Brittany's dating.

47:40Ben Mandelker: Like, well, why wouldn't they take her money? Hmm. Yeah, he's a real nice guy. I love known him for so long. I think my final thing here is this headline. Katie Janela reveals plans to expose Emily Simpson when new Orange County season airs. So this is from Reality Blurb, and this is the opening sentence. Katie Janela reacted to the claim that there is quote-unquote proof that Emily Simpson is trash, as Katie hinted at stories that didn't air. Were we all sitting around being like, Emily Simpson's just a great, great person. Wait a second. There's a document that says she's trash. i mean i feel like she's been on for like nine years i suspect she's trash but i'm gonna need

48:17Ronnie Karam: solid proof we have nine years of it do we have nine years of we need we need a trash

48:23Ben Mandelker: a smoking trash gun i'm like uh it's okay we've been watching we've been don't you worry katie

48:29Ronnie Karam: janela for co-host jimmy rice said listen we're gonna be very honest on this podcast i don't have any other gear but blunt and honest emily's trash in my opinion and katie said well i've been saying it and i can back up what i say that she's trash but we'll get there well i have some stories that didn't air she said and we'll discuss those as the season airs and one is real juicy

48:56Ben Mandelker: she was literally transformed into trash she is human compost so anyway we'll see what happens there but actually things have been pretty chill on bravo but we have to now hop on over to our Amazon live. So if you want to keep on talking about stuff, we'll just be right over there instead. So I hope everyone comes and join us.

49:16Ronnie Karam: Yeah, we'll talk to you next time, guys. Love ya.

49:19Ben Mandelker: Bye. Bye.

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