#3408 Southern Hospitality S4E15 Part 2: Time To Close The Tab

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2:15Ben Mandelker: And then when he's like, you know, my heart sympathizes with people like TJ, Brad, and Lake identifying on the spectrum. I was like, did I come out of the closet? It's like, oops, I meant Michael's. the other black man on the show

2:28Ronnie Karam: yeah I know I was like well there's another one it's another microaggression

2:32Ben Mandelker: whoopsies

2:33Ronnie Karam: he's like yeah you know like TJ Brad Lake and you know they identify on the spectrum you know the LGBTQ spectrum see I've got all the letters I've memorized them that's what I'm talking about this is someone who could maybe be gay one time I know the letters

2:52Ben Mandelker: he only knows 30 % of the letters so then they're all laughing because he said Brad. So Justin's basically like, yeah, I feel like I've had to answer this. And even in my relationship with Charlie, it's just like, it's a lot. It's like, yeah, well, you know what? By the way, we shouldn't even be talking about that. And so anyway, Andy goes on to, Mia, if the messiness of Jordan didn't happen, would you have actually given Justin a chance? She's like, no, no, no, no, no. We just realized we were just pretty good friends. the jordan situation it just was too messy for me it just felt like you know i said on the show the baby mama drama with no baby you know also look at this guy i mean look at who i was with and look at this guy am i really gonna downgrade for that no it's like i've reached i've reached delta delta

3:38Ronnie Karam: one status i'm not going back to economy um not really because she west which she admitted last

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4:06Ronnie Karam: So Justin's like, oh, come on, me and Jordan? That was like a situation, but it was never like, you know, we were exclusive. We were going on dates. TJ's like, uh-oh, Blake's getting excited over there because Blake's like, uh-uh, you know, this guy's so full of shit. And Justin's like, yeah. Andy says, were you hiding it from production for a reason? And Lake's like, yes. And he says, I don't think I was hiding it from production. Oh my god. Where have we seen Justin before? Oh yeah, every Bravo show.

4:37Ben Mandelker: Please. What's actually hilarious to me about this, because I was thinking, Ronnie hasn't talked about Summer House in about 20 minutes, and I think he wants to talk about it some more. but what's funny to me is that he basically is has to be on the same defense make the same argument that west had to a day prior about like of course no we weren't like exclusive that's crazy but i think he does it better than west does he's like because his vibe is like what are you people talking about i never said it like i'm sorry that she felt that way but it never was that way and that's on her and she's kind of like well like everyone calm the fuck down this was not exclusive you guys are making a big mess like his vibe is kind of like what's wrong with you people whereas west was like um well i like she may have thought it but like like it wasn't but like maybe i was

5:27Ronnie Karam: like unclear and so it's like well he was caught in a way that that uh this guy wasn't i mean this guy was consistent the whole season and being like jordan i've told jordan the truth the whole time and jordan's just acting psycho typical girl so he stayed consistent whereas west was like what we were never even together until they got on the phone with Mia and he knew it and then he had to backtrack and be like oh but like okay well like maybe like I maybe she thought that but like okay maybe I made her think that but like Justin is new Wes has had three years for us to learn and everybody to know Justin is new and he still thinks he's tricking people so we are not tricked

6:10Ben Mandelker: or you do the Mia thing that she does a little bit later i mean just i still think justin if justin were in the summer house scandal i still think he would have handled it better than west actually he's better he would have handled it more slicker he's a slicker douchebag he would have done more slick more slicker more slickly it's kind of like you know what it is it's like it's just like the lack of art that west brings to his scandal is really disturbing to me like it's not that it's going to move the needle but like if you're going be the scandal be good at it like at least like take some lessons on how to be how to do this this this thing okay but or look at mia who later on um they they they trap her in some stupid lie and then she goes oh my bad and she just smiles yeah mia's really good at the like i didn't do it

7:01Ronnie Karam: and if i did do it i was justified and you know whatever whatever that saying is and then by the end like and who cares you know mia just ends it all with like so what who cares yeah tune me get over it so uh anyway um so that now they start coming they're coming for justin about like you

7:23Ben Mandelker: guys were in a relationship it wasn't it wasn't just a casual thing there were toothbrushes etc and like i've seen text messages okay how about those in bulk from costco so whatever I love Costco defense.

7:39Ronnie Karam: Total hell. He's like, whatever. I've got him. I've got him there for everybody.

7:45Ben Mandelker: Yeah. It's actually so funny. When he said I bought them in bulk from Costco, I had missed the toothbrush setup. And I had no idea why he was bringing Costco into it. But I was too lazy to go back. I was like, I don't know what this is about. But whatever. We'll figure it out tomorrow.

7:58Ronnie Karam: Yeah, that was it. They were like, she even had a toothbrush at your house. He's like, please. I got those in bulk from Costco. And he's like, you're lying. And you even bought her clothes. And Maddie's like, toothbrush for you, toothbrush for you. Are your text messages between you and Jordan or text between Justin and Jordan? Because Lake has some proof. And Lake's like, look, I've got texts. It's Justin and Jordan texts. And she sent them to me because she was like, he's downplaying the relationship. And Justin's like, please, can I just clear the air before this gets dirty, okay? And Lake's saying, Jordan's just like, I don't want to get hurt.

8:35Ronnie Karam: This just isn't enough. Like she's just kind of like venting to him. And then Justin goes, I shaped my days around you. Oh God. Well, Lake, I mean, Jordan, hopefully this is your lesson in life. Like I know she's still really young, but if a man says he shapes his days around you, this man's a pig. And the same way he's talking about Chuck, where he's like, I'm just lucky to own her. I'm just lucky enough to claim her.

8:59Ben Mandelker: What is exactly getting shaped around Jordan? like what is jordan what what is what is justin doing during the day that is being accommodated for like like what is what is happening is it that he's shooting his only fans like oh i decided to shoot my only fans at 10 a.m instead of 11 a.m i mean what else is happening in his life he went to the store got some protein so like let's like not get let's not get too excited about having your day like having your day shaped by justin um so yeah we see all these screenshots of him being a cheese ball and justin's like well you guys aren't seeing what the conversations had in person like that's a huge part of this the bottom line was she wanted something more in the relationship and unfortunately that's not my issue but you don't think there's anything you did though to make her feel that way like i just don't like this narrative like oh the girl's crazy the man's not like what the thing is like it's like girls are the way because of man okay man does that to a girl okay like you don't like you don't think you love bombed her or told her you're going to be exclusive come on and like it's like yeah we talked about like exclusivity with her before like before a disto and then you went and you kissed mia yeah he's so full of shit because we

10:07Ronnie Karam: saw on camera a scene with him and jordan where she's like at his house kissing him on the counter or the couch and he's like well you know we'll just take it as it goes he says something like we're taking it as it goes and she's like just don't date one of my friends you know and then And he immediately goes and does the Mia thing, you know? Yeah. Yeah. Which, I mean, Mia would say, well, we're not even friends. But she was saying, like, don't embarrass me and start fucking people in our circle, which he totally did.

10:37Ben Mandelker: I mean, the guy, you look at his face and his OnlyFans account, you just have to assume is I'm going to embarrass you. At I'm going to embarrass you.

10:44Ronnie Karam: Yes. And Charlie, too. Like, Charlie, duh, he's using you. Why do you think he's dating you, Charlie? You think it's because you work in an arcade? it's because you're on tv okay let's just make it let's just make it easy then he's like and

10:58Ben Mandelker: what is the harm about exploring my dating life as as someone in their young 20s am i because um young is crazy that man's 30. he's like he's like wait it comes to a point where there's like no need to argue about it like this is this is defamatory it's just defamatory so tj's like like needs to give it up like i think she has a crush on the crush on justin justin's like yeah it's high school drama i'm not gonna be defamed here no okay poor guy so like like you hurt my

11:28Ronnie Karam: friend's feelings and this is me defending my friends and justin's like you guys weren't even

11:32Ben Mandelker: friends jordan didn't even like you don't yes she did she liked me as a jordan liked lake as a friend she liked me no she didn't lake and maddie's like what they just went to japan together and she hated every second every time she was like oh i love japan wish lake weren't here yeah i love that

11:52Ronnie Karam: we just went to japan together and then they show them together and they're like little pokemon hats or whatever they're wearing full of hatred it's time for a commercial it's time for a crappin's

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15:10Ben Mandelker: Like, why are you so heated up about this? And he, yeah, well, you know what?

15:15Ronnie Karam: I'll ask for Lake. Justin goes, exactly. Maddie as well. Yeah, well, you've been sitting there rolling your eyes and arguing with everything Maddie said and trying to undermine her relationship this whole reunion, Justin. So you can sit there and take it for a second, you dick.

15:28Ben Mandelker: He was the one who last episode just said, aren't I allowed to react to something? I'm here. Aren't I allowed to react?

15:33Ronnie Karam: Yeah. And Maddie's like, we're friends with Jordan, Andy, okay? And like Justin just got here. Like, I'm sorry, not Maddie. We've worked with Jordan. Like she's been here like two years. This guy just got here.

15:46Ben Mandelker: Justin's like, you don't talk to Jordan at all, Maddie. Maddie, you told me to stay away from Jordan. Yeah. Jordan's been in our life for years. She works with us. She's look, look at Jordan. She's the life of the party. she's just the the spark of the fire look at her look at the way she lights up the camera we all

16:02Ronnie Karam: love jordan don't destroy jordan he claims that she said dump jordan because ali luber is coming to charleston so go date her because basically you know basically bring her onto the show this but like bring her onto the show you know and then grace of course is like well why didn't you ever

16:21Ben Mandelker: date me he's like well i would but we would we would have been on a good date you know okay okay wait were you trying to set him up with ally luber she's like no no i wasn't i advised him not to be a jordan and the whole thing because like she was being lied on and i was like dating other people i was like here's an example ally she's used to being lied on she's okay with it yeah

16:42Ronnie Karam: and justin is like um but like she knew i was dating well how long did you date i don't know like i really don't even know maddie says since vegas and um mia's like since vegas maddie's like yeah they were like hooking up in vegas you know like you don't know how you're not friends with her like you go to vegas with her though oh okay cool like who goes to vegas with people that

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17:26Ronnie Karam: while i'm podcasting you're kind of far away in the monitor what is your background

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17:56Ronnie Karam: So, um, Mia's like, uh, I didn't go to Vegas. I didn't go to Vegas with Jordan. We were on a group trip. And Maddie's like, oh yeah, were you not in Vegas? Las Vegas, Nevada with her? Were you not? And Mia's like, calm down. Why are you so upset? Why are you so upset, Maddie? She's like, stop gaslighting me. Stop it. Stop saying calm, calm. I'm talking to you like a normal human being. hey who in this group thinks me as a girl's girl just raise your hand yeah who in this group does

18:25Ben Mandelker: not think that me as a girl's girl raise your hand so guess what everyone if you raise your hand we're covering the entire spectrum of options that's talking about so justin's like guys this is crazy guys we weren't even together oh my god justin shut the fuck up like i don't care about you and i was upset with mia for more than the jordan trauma like literally right before okay he's like well so what is it do you not like me and me because of some other reason she's like

18:54Ronnie Karam: let me speak michael's like let her speak you were gaslighting and andy just laughs he's like this isn't gaslighting what are you guys talking about i'm saying gaslighting for every single

19:06Ben Mandelker: thing that is not gaslighting he goes long it's like legis let's lay like 24.7 he does andy okay

19:14Ronnie Karam: geez i'll let you have it god kids and he's like let me not anyone's wondering where mia's coming from mia goes what even is a girl's girl what is that okay let me clear let me clear everything up

19:27Ben Mandelker: so we went to a movie premiere party me you joe michaels and we all decided to go out after so we started uptown and then we made our way to republic and then i see an ex and you knew you you knew that the ex cheated on me on valentine's day actually and i was like hurt by that and then you mia you decided to like walk up to him and i'm literally like no no but you walked up to him and basically

19:49Ronnie Karam: that's lake saying that and um mia's like yeah you told me to go up to him she goes no i didn't i did not tell you to go up to him that's raw i would never tell you to go up to him she goes yeah you did you told me to go up to him you did and you were like uh go see what he's here for especially knowing your male-centered energy i would not tell you to go up to him he's like it's not male-centered talking like what are you talking with the girl's girl

20:14Ben Mandelker: what yeah she's like no i wouldn't tell you to do that me i was like okay you know what you need you need to be quiet shush you know what you went up to my ex and you had a whole 15 minute conversation with him she was okay i would not talk to him for 15 minutes i was like oh my god I don't even want to go over there because that ex-traumatized me. And then you came back giggling like, oh, my God, him and his new girlfriend are getting a dog together. Like, that's the girl that cheated on me. Like, he cheated on me with. Like, why would you talk to them?

20:41Ronnie Karam: I reported back to you because you asked me to go talk to him. So, sorry. Like, what do you – like, I'm an investigative reporter. What are you talking about? No, I didn't. Then I said, why the fuck did you go? Why would I go talk to him? You're lying. lying it's like why would i go talk to some 20 year old dude you're lying but why would i even go ask anything like you're trying to instigate you were trying to start something just why but why though like i don't even care you can't humiliate me because i don't even give a about you i don't care about you either and andy's like can you just apologize to her and move on

21:16Ben Mandelker: you're gaslighting me she's like i have already apologized to her about it no you didn't she's like roll the clip outside of emo night okay i did so then we see this on yard footage where mia's telling like i feel really bad that i talked to her ex and if you didn't like it i'm sorry i would

21:33Ronnie Karam: never ever do that again see mia's such a liar because this is saying like well then why did you have to apologize if she told you to go do it in the first place well either way i mean yeah yes like why would you have to say i'm really sorry you got mad at me talking to your ex is if that was the case that then she would have said i only talked to your ex because you asked me to you know yeah and so lake's like yeah you go i don't even care that me allies i think that me i

22:02Ben Mandelker: don't care i don't care because it's all so stupid it's like so lake is like you go up to my ex was overstepping she goes i'm sorry okay i'm sorry so now we're back and mia's like see you were so up you couldn't even stand straight because well if you apologize i don't forgive you and he goes

22:19Ronnie Karam: wow and they all start laughing and mia's like okay well boom ben okay you said like i don't forgive you like i don't care she's like i really don't care if you forgive me or not

22:30Ben Mandelker: i do like that because mia's like i don't know who this little girl is she's annoying to me

22:34Ronnie Karam: i regret not slapping you bitch uh brad goes lake you're being a mean girl so you guys were

22:41Ben Mandelker: talking about how i'm immature how i held my head down and now my head's up and i'm looking at you and mia's like uh no you're not okay did you stand in the mirror and rehearse that fucking line

22:53Ronnie Karam: dumb ass she goes it's like randy's sister and you don't even start with me it's like yeah i don't know about that one guys leva comes in she's like guys i think that lake just has like more sensitive feelings and the two of you are like very good at dissociating i like she's calling one side of the couch basically sociopaths she's like this side of the couch feels things and that side of the couch doesn't feel things so maybe we can come somewhere in the middle yeah she's like doing the what's it called the what's the the what's the she starts basically doing like intj

23:30Ben Mandelker: entj shit you know she's like okay i've decided that you are sensing and you're introverted and you know you're feeling like she's basically doing like like very basic psychology on them all yeah brigman brigman whatever you know what i'm talking about i really don't you don't the

23:51Ronnie Karam: you know it's the i was just staying quiet to not sound stupid but now that you're gonna press me on it i'm stupid so what is it i can't remember the name of it profiles what'd you call it the ingmar bergman ingmar mariska hargitay's father ingmar bergman yes yes i just can't remember it's

24:12Ben Mandelker: Brickman Myers Briggs. Look at me in this camera.

24:16Ronnie Karam: Don't I look like I'm my goal weight? Because my calf is my body. Look.

24:21Ben Mandelker: Wait, hold on. I'm coming back from my Myers. That's funny.

24:26Ronnie Karam: Go weight.

24:28Ben Mandelker: Myers Briggs. So anyway, sorry to everyone who just had to endure all of that. So Lev is like, yeah.

24:35Ronnie Karam: If it's on TikTok, I don't believe it. If it's not like on TikTok, I don't believe it. As far as psychological profiling.

24:41Ben Mandelker: you're such an ENTJ oh my god TJ so Michael's is like well you know she wants to be you so bad like why don't you see it and so Molly's like sorry I'll back up Leva says okay I think like Lake has more sensitive feelings and I think the two of you are very good at disassociating and Michael says like it's you and Molly well you and Molly disassociate because she wants to be you so bad like what why don't you see it and molly's like um i think the reason that you're saying that is because we are similar and we are both very very strong individuals and we don't have any identity out of someone else's opinion

25:19Ronnie Karam: oh you don't have any idea yeah and like she's not true like do you not see my art career and b is like um art career really what's your art career you put you put a couple of pictures of an eye in zack stacks molly you've been vocal about how triggering it is to have your appearance

25:42Ben Mandelker: scrutinized so when they called you and me a fake bitches with fake titties what did you think about that are your titties actually fake how large are they tell me everything they're not fake by the

25:52Ronnie Karam: way they're just reduced i mean it's like still her it's still all her stuff it's still her stuff

25:58Ben Mandelker: Molly has talked shit about me around town like she even got kicked out of a section because she was talking shit to my friends like wow a section was it the was it the fiction section at Barnes & Noble so Andy's like so don't you all talk shit about each other though why are we still recording this reunion have we kind of peaked and then Michael's like you know we all talk shit about each other but like nobody in this room is innocent

26:22Ronnie Karam: you guys are exhausting so Lake and Mia you're in a bad place okay I guess we'll just leave it there. I'm not even going to try and make people make up anymore because I'm being gaslit. So.

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28:36Ronnie Karam: All right, we're moving on. Okay, this summer, Molly and Mia found themselves single and ready to mingle. Al from Banny says, It feels like there's something more behind Mia's breakup. Troy was the love of her life. They broke up over a three-hour drive. Is there more to this story? Yeah, they're pretending to be broken up so she can date on the show and keep her job, just like they do on every other show on this network, because you believe the only storyline is for people to be fucking me is like yeah it's it's

29:06Ben Mandelker: just that he wouldn't commit and i also like wouldn't commit to moving to charlotte and he's like but do you still see him yeah i mean we're single and mingle and a talk and everything i just i just really i just he doesn't want to come to charleston and like i'm at me as like like you know she's like but i mean if he's the love of your life i mean andy you tell me okay how i how i navigate marriage in that situation living three hours away from each other you know here it doesn't have to be marriage okay you know what joe be quiet joe but he's the love of your life out well wouldn't you just go there she's like i hate charlotte she's like i hate it there and

29:43Ronnie Karam: basically she's like uh all my friends are in charleston i've established myself in charleston i'm on a tv show in charleston why would i quit doing a tv show for some guy like duh Why would I go to Charlotte?

29:57Ben Mandelker: Yeah, I think so too She's like, I can be in a cute city with cobblestone Cobblestone stuff everywhere Or I can go to Charlotte where there's like Bank of America She's like, I'm staying at Charleston

30:08Ronnie Karam: Yeah, exactly, and Molly's like Well, I think it's important to know that he got a promotion And now he can have more freedom So I think these things are finally in the works For me, I mean, Mia

30:17Ben Mandelker: That is important to know That is important to know Thank you for bringing that up, Molly So Mia's like She's like well the story may be changing soon I don't know I'm still waiting for him to figure it out You know

30:29Ronnie Karam: Did you cheat on him because I heard you cheated on him She's like no I didn't Yes you did When did I cheat My friend told me Oh really who's your friend Like who is it

30:40Ben Mandelker: He doesn't want to be named Oh of course

30:44Ronnie Karam: But he told me Oh yeah the guy in the sky Was it Jesus Who told you

30:49Ben Mandelker: he had sex with you right before you went to hawaii no no he didn't and michael's just like

30:56Ronnie Karam: yeah and you also lied about fucking west and i have dms of your sister texting me in the morning

31:00Ben Mandelker: looking for you in new york city and she's like basically she's like what what are you talking about like lying about fucking west um she she's like when did i lie what are we talking about i

31:14Ronnie Karam: just said there was no romantic connection connection yeah and molly's like yeah and i also said that in the press, basically me, because they were like, oh my god, Mia, Mia, Mia, thinking I was Mia, because we're basically the same. And so, like, I took the interview. And yeah, I was like, wow, there's just no romantic connection. So, glad to be on this show. I'm adding a lot.

31:33Ben Mandelker: I mean, you even told Sally Carson to go fuck West because the dick was so good. And she's like, I didn't tell Sally Carson that. She's like, you 100 % did. 1000 % did. She's like, no, she was going to fuck him no matter what.

31:47Ronnie Karam: 1000 % you did it and Leva's like um yeah actually I was there when you told him that or when you told her that so and everyone laughs like oh even Leva said it she goes yeah you said West was worth it I was sitting right there

32:01Ben Mandelker: she's like oh okay my bad well I never cheated on Troy if I did I mean I would say by the way so I looked this up because this is what I do with my time I said when did Mia have sex with west and that was in september of 2025 and then didn't west have a conversation with um miha in like in like october or so in the fall also about going being exclusive around that time my point is that he is going around he is sleeping with a lot of people while he is apparently in this relationship with mia and it's just shitty i just want to say it's just another feather into that cap or a bad feather into a bad cap another horse hair in that cap yeah so

32:47Ronnie Karam: like it's like well then maybe my friend's timeline is messed up but i trust him okay well if your friend you're not very good at this you're you're never gonna be like a lawyer you know what i mean okay well maybe the time frame he said around june but like i don't know okay well dismissed this case is dismissed it's like i don't know what to do with this like like this

33:09Ben Mandelker: is just like not i don't really care about your friend i don't really even care that much about

33:14Ronnie Karam: like whatever this is he is so up front with who she's banging i don't think it really matters you know she's like i broke up with this guy i'm not getting what i wanted i fucked west like she's pretty up front with everything that she does so i'm confused why why we care who me is having sex

33:33Ben Mandelker: with yeah yeah i'm confused too i feel like i saw something last night that it was this run a guy who's a runner i i just i can't find it and he was like i met mia he basically like i what is she talking about i met mia like like way after i met her in like like august or september i didn't meet her in july i don't know what it was but it's like you know what i i like the way i don't care about this situation it's like i can't express it enough me too so they're going back and forth on

34:03Ronnie Karam: this timeline and she's like i didn't sleep with him till after hawaii and they're like no because you slept with him before Hawaii. And she's like, no, I didn't. So now we're going through this timeline of this. And I, yeah, I'm with you. I don't really care. So Mia, you went out with Wes a little bit, okay? Where do you stand and what's going on with Wes? This is a big deal right now. You're on Bravo. She's like, we had a great time. I mean, it was nice. That was it. I feel bad for this situation now. Like, I mean, I feel worse for Sierra. That sucks. But.

34:31Ben Mandelker: Did you guys have sex? She's like, yeah. We had sex. Yeah. And Michael's like, you know, she just admitted it. I mean, it's like, what's wrong with you? What do you want to catch me in some sort of lie? What's your beef? Because you're a liar. I mean, you do lie. She's like, I don't lie, everyone. And he's like, okay, okay, okay. Maddie, I can't, I really can't hear any more of this. Maddie and Joe, congratulations on your puppy adoption. Did we really run out of content? What is happening on this show? I could have sworn more happened in the season. What's your puppy's name?

35:03Ronnie Karam: And how does Lake feel about it? so uh they adopted a puppy they've been raising it together at maddie's house and uh she still has hesitations about joe moving in um wait we have to wait i do want to talk about

35:18Ben Mandelker: the great backstory on the dog's name joe says his name is ozzy and then in case you were wondering he says we came up with it when we were watching the osbornes wow thank you thank you for that insight on how you named your dog ozzy like and presumably because oz rip passed away you know

35:39Ronnie Karam: around then but i just think that's bad juju to name your dog after somebody that just passed

35:44Ben Mandelker: yeah well sometimes as a tribute tribute i think it's okay well i mean when they've been passed for

35:52Ronnie Karam: like a while but like somebody just like when that's what's on your mind like so and so just passed let's name our dog that i don't know it's like that's not that's not like exactly a cheers to a long life, you know?

36:03Ben Mandelker: What if, like, Ozzy Osbourne's spirit, like, it was like the dog was named just as Ozzy died, and Ozzy's spirit went and flowed right into the dog. And then there's, like, going to be another dog named Sharon that'd be like, Ozzy, get over here.

36:15Ronnie Karam: They give me a trick every once in a while, and that's so much to ask for. Piss on a fucking post is what I did. Ask me to piss on, say, you want me to go outside, but a fucking, why you got a post in your house? You don't want me to piss on it. That's what I'm asking.

36:29Ben Mandelker: Yeah. I think that'd be a great life for a dog. For Ozzy's spirit, it would be in dog form.

36:35Ronnie Karam: R.A.P. Oz. So, it was like, yeah. I just moved into Maddie's house. I was like, she's going to buy a house, but I'm not going to own it. But she's going to own it, but I'm going to pay rent there. And that's going to go towards the mortgage. So, that's what we're doing. It was like, yeah, why would I buy a house with a guy that I'm not with? I like that Maddie has such a head on her shoulders. And people on this show act like, oh, my God, Maddie. What are you doing buying a house without Joe? and you're not committing to joe joe's not right joe's kind of a dummy why would she yeah she's smart she's like i'm buying a house he can live there if he wants and help pay my mortgage but

37:09Ben Mandelker: that's it no one wants to entangle their financial prospects with joe bradley leva maddie anyone else it's like wait a second why aren't you opening up a bar with joe bradley it's like uh it's joe bradley why aren't you buying a house with joe bradley uh it's joe bradley yeah i mean every

37:27Ronnie Karam: but we just see so many times on this channel and in life people making stupid financial decisions and seeing someone who's like so smart about it and the whole egg thing like keeping her own eggs and not putting joe's sperm in the egg you know making an embryo with joe i mean i think she's making the best choices and people are acting like she's a crazy person yeah because she says

37:49Ben Mandelker: she basically said yeah i'm not i'm not i'm not giving an egg to joe right now we're not there yet yeah and and so um uh then uh maddie is like you know she just needs her own timeline she doesn't want to freak out about it and emmy's like i'll probably get pregnant like three years no one

38:08Ronnie Karam: asks you emmy who cares and grace lily's like yeah you know what just had sex three times a day

38:14Ben Mandelker: that's how you're supposed to do it joe what's your reaction when you heard maddie say she dude doesn't want to waste her eggs by combining them with your sperm yeah i mean obviously that sucks to hear her because I don't know if she heard about it, but I'm really into rooftops and weddings. So part of me is like, we could have had the egg on a rooftop and it would have been like, the egg would have had a great life. But like, you know, she can see a future with me. I don't know. I was hoping that she would see a future with me. It's like, yeah, but like, I might only get one baby out of those eggs they got.

38:45Ben Mandelker: So who knows?

38:48Ronnie Karam: Because you don't even need an egg sometimes. You know, I'm just a genetic explosion. That's what my parents sad. They didn't even touch each other, you know. One minute my mom was holding a tiny dog, the next minute I just came hula-hooping out of her. Nobody even knows how it happened. I asked Jesus when I met him, and he said to ask Bob Marley, but then Bob Marley was having a coffin fit, and I just never really got an answer. But have you ever heard of evolution? It's basically me. I was a tadpole and then I got legs. Next thing you know, I won a hula-hoop championship. And that's it. That's how babies work.

39:22Ben Mandelker: Alright! Right. Well, Joe, it came out at the end of the season that Molly had a conversation with Maddie where Maddie said she doesn't see herself marrying you. What was your reaction to that? Yeah, I mean, I really want to get to the bottom of that because like she said that to your face and Molly's like, yes, 100%. And Maddie's like, I did not. Like you were like, you have like a really bad lying problem. I never said I'm not going to marry him or I'm never going to marry him. She's like, you did. Like that's a fucking compulsive lie. I like never said it. No, you said you didn't see yourself marrying him.

39:51Ben Mandelker: And like, you want to break the generational cycle and like, you don't want to marry him. What? I was vulnerable about that on the show. I opened up about those things. You went on a podcast. Maddie doesn't share her relationship. I share my relationship more than anyone. Okay. Anyone on the show. Okay.

40:06Ronnie Karam: I'm always like, well, they asked me about your relationship. And I said, I don't know. They don't share it with me. Then why are you spouting off Mally? Uh, Mally. Molly. Maddie's like, yeah, then why are you commenting about it? and he's like i mean they asked her a question are they are they allowed to ask her a question

40:23Ben Mandelker: no you're not you're not allowed to you told me a dj at lunch okay and like uh this is going on

40:31Ronnie Karam: that wasn't a podcast when you were at lunch on camera no one was asking you anything you just brought it up and um uh michael's is like that's your thing you like to gaslight and then you make little faces and me is like she's talking about a podcast okay then she's talking about a lunch like are we talking about a podcast are we talking about a lunch like what are we even doing here

40:49Ben Mandelker: okay okay let them talk let them talk this out it's a really important point for america joseph wait so when did she tell you that when did like when did she say that she didn't want

41:00Ronnie Karam: to marry me molly's like as i confided in you about his drinking do you think i would be wasting my time in a relationship on my biological clock with someone i don't want to marry and i was like wait are you guys listening to each other she said that you said you're not going to marry him at this time and you're saying you're not ready to marry him at this time i think you guys are kind

41:17Ben Mandelker: of talking about the same thing and molly's like yeah i mean and that's vastly different than i do not see myself marrying joe that's vastly different you know and andy's like okay so molly what did you say what did she say to you at the lunch um well she doesn't see herself marrying him she wants to break a generational cycle this is before all of your conversations with him um that i gaslight. That's what I do. I make small faces in gaslight. Okay, you're just repeating things people just said two seconds ago. Thank you very much.

41:46Ronnie Karam: I would just ask that you guys respect my art career. Okay, that's what Blake said. I did not sleep with O'Sheen. All right, Molly. All right.

41:56Ben Mandelker: I was very naive about microaggressions. Molly, you don't have to take this on. Okay, be careful there.

42:01Ronnie Karam: And Matty's like, yeah, and TJ said it too. And TJ's like, wow, I was also hammered. And then we see the clip at the ending party where tj's just with his new little messy boyfriend he's like oh my god these two like maddie said she doesn't want to marry joe it's so messy and then you just see the

42:17Ben Mandelker: boyfriend's face he's like he's like so thrilled with all of this i just need you to be careful finding each other romance i just need you to be careful about how you say things like but you twist words molly's like well that's not how i meant it she's and lake's like you you don't confide in her at all okay i am curious i am curious who here thinks joe takes the relationship more serious

42:40Ronnie Karam: than maddie me everybody's watched the show i will say about all this molly stuff molly is full of and she takes little things she hears and tries to twist them and make them a storyline for herself like oh my god you guys guess what maddie told me man he's like i'm not even friends with you only so thirsty but i kind of enjoy molly after all these years i mean this is the first year that i remembered who she was by the end because when this season started i was like cool yeah but i remember her now so that's something yeah i mean look baby steps so um

43:15Ben Mandelker: michael so michael's is saying i think the thing is in their relationship maddie pushes him to do more and so i think maddie's like not necessarily like doesn't necessarily wear the pants but like that's not the verbiage i want to use but like she keeps him accountable by making sure that he never has pants to wear because she's wearing them uh i just want to say i also hold her accountable

43:36Ronnie Karam: like i i basically make her like find my app works because like she has to use it all the time on me

43:42Ben Mandelker: so it's like just basically testing that you know it's it's like when she threw that thing off the balcony of my loft and i was like hey i need that it was like me holding her accountable because like

43:51Ronnie Karam: i needed that yeah uh but like uh can i say something like regarding you know like the talking to this group it's like how to stop before we're going to move forward joe weren't you the one just doing the threesome rumor and everything else please say the guys we really got to stop talking about each other you know it's supposed to be fun but like i don't want it to be to the

44:14Ben Mandelker: point where like not having fun anymore yeah it should be really fun i love us like i think at some point you guys need to pick the people that you want to have a friendship with and work towards that. And a lot of it is like, you guys are just like really upset. And I know Joe misses the boys. I know Brad is so deeply hurt. I know Emmy is deeply upset and feeling alone. And over here, this one over here wants the porridge, doesn't know how to ask for this lake. And there are decades of friendships. And there are people who just don't understand. These people to the left of me are high feeling people.

44:44Ben Mandelker: And these people to the right of me are not super high feeling people. The people on the left are, I guess what we'd call in the restaurant industry, idiots and the people to my right are just like dumb shits. And it's just about understanding how to communicate with each other.

44:59Ronnie Karam: Guys, let me break it down for you. There's two couches. This couch is full of babies and betas. Baby betas. That side of the couch is filled with psychopaths. We just tried to get along. They're like, wow. And it's like, wow, Leva, we should do a toast with some mini weenies after we say bye to everybody. Bye, Michael. He does that whole thing. And then they bring out little weenies. And what was the other thing that they bring out?

45:29Ben Mandelker: Weenies and teenies. So these all come out. And then Andy's like, you can see Andy's so happy to be done with this. He's like, alright everyone. See you all at Republic. Good job everyone. I want to thank Leva and the Gab for Republic for another dramatic season of Southern Hospitality. I'm Andy Cohen. For more information, click around bravotv.com.

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46:15Ronnie Karam: And that's pretty much it.

46:17Ben Mandelker: it is i enjoy the show i'm glad it's over see you next season that that reunion just killed me i'm sorry everyone i'm sorry like that reunion episode was just it just it like i just felt like what is happening why are we watching this okay but i do love the cast i love the show i just felt like this was like not

46:40Ronnie Karam: not a strong way to end the entire season but and it did so and it did you go but um Love the show in general. Hope it comes back. I'll be interested to see if they make any changes, but I guess we'll see you next time.

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