#3411 RHORI S1E12: Block Party

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2:25Ben Mandelker: I love you. I want to make sure you're safe.

2:27Ronnie Karam: I just want to know when you're getting near.

2:29Ben Mandelker: Yeah, that's it. We are talking about the season finale of Real Housewives of Rhode Island today. Before we get into that, of course, if you listen to this in time, come join us on Amazon Live today. We are talking summertime things. I'm going to tell you all about everything you would need to make a perfect glass of lemonade for the summer. And so that'll be really fun. Check that one out. and we'll have crappy hour next week. I'm sure there'll be plenty to talk about. This is not a crappy hour week. Ronnie just put up a new newsletter on Patreon. Read what crappens. Go check that out. That's free for everyone.

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3:35Ben Mandelker: But right now, we have to dive into the Rhode Island season finale. I really have to say that I love this season. I know I keep on saying every single week, you hear me say the same thing. At first, I was like, I thought it was okay. But then by the end, I was watching this. I was like, I really do love this show. I'm really happy with what they've done this season. I think it was great. I'm excited for where it's going to go next season. And I thought this was a very fun season finale. What did you think?

4:01Ronnie Karam: It was. I loved it. They're like Block Island, the most glamorous place in the world. Block Island. We were married. We had babies. We raised doggies.

4:11Ben Mandelker: All right. Block Island. I don't know. Sure. It's nice. Block Island. Looks very nice. Sure. Cold. Looks great. Looks great. Looks lovely. I remember growing up, my friend Risa, she would talk about Block Island a lot. She was like, I guess her family went to Block Island a lot. So too bad I didn't see Risa in the background. The other thing I was going to say about this now, I forgot what I was going to say about it, but whatever. It was good. I have to say, oh, this is what I was going to say. You know me. I'm not known for being like really up on babies. but there was a I have to say Ashley's baby kind of stole the show for me this entire everything about this episode was great but for me it really came down to that baby at the end crying at its birthday cake that just cracked me up like that was my favorite thing that happened the entire episode it's very rare that the baby steals the scenes for me but it did

5:07Ronnie Karam: oh it's a cute baby alright let's get into it Real Housewives of Rhode Island season finale season one episode twelve the fairy tale is over F-E-R-O-Y

5:19Ben Mandelker: Get it! So we're at Rula's house Guys, your dreams come true We are going to start with the Rula packing scene Here she is Oh Jesus, this closet is a hot mess And she holds up a captain's hat Brian got this for me This is my birthday girl Captain hat

5:42Yeah

5:43Ben Mandelker: The awkward sound of your microphone was the perfect sound effect right there. That was the perfect time for a microphone adjustment. Wow. What a guy.

5:55Ronnie Karam: Rula's just full of personality, you know? Just Rula. She's just lips. She's just like, this is the captain's hat that Brian got me. Are you sad? What's the subtext here? Are you sad about this? Are you happy about this? Is it a good memory? Is this like a before he's fucking around on me in public memory? It's just nothing. It's just a very robotic. This is the hat that Brian got me.

6:23Ben Mandelker: Staring off into the world. Yeah. And then we go to Alicia's house. She's like, this is my packing piece here. Okay, where's my black luggage? Selena, open up the luggage. Put this in there for me. Okay, Selena, I just said that I'm leaving. I said it. Selena looks at her like, no. You're going like three miles away. And I get to run this bitch myself. Wolf, get out of here, ma.

6:45Ronnie Karam: So she opens the door and drops her suitcase down the stairs. And she's like, uh-oh, Billy. Then we go over to Kelsey, who's talking to Liz on the phone. They're packing for Block Island. Guys, everybody's going to Block Island. And the guys are going to come on this one. And Kelsey tells us Block Island is one of the most beautiful places that Rhode Island has to offer. this episode made me kind of sad just with how Kelsey talks because she doesn't know like basic grammar, you know, like there was a guy on love Island who was like, this is for both of our lives. Or was it on this show? Was it the husband on this show?

7:26Ronnie Karam: Ashley's husband, someone kept saying it like this is for both of our lives. No, we really,

7:33Ben Mandelker: there's definitely been some interesting grammar on love Island. I mean, Love Island is not where I'm, you know, turning to to hear like some NPR level commentary on anything. But this show also is sort of in that space. I mean, Love Island, Rhode Island, it's just the island shows on reality TV are, you know, giving us interesting spins on the English language.

7:56Ronnie Karam: Yeah. I mean, it's just kind of like, what are we, are we teaching people things lately or is it just, have we just given up? Have we just as a society given up? And I say probably. So she's like, yeah, Black Island's so beautiful. And Liz is like, Black Island, it's my favorite place. In a very threatening way. I like that no matter what Liz says now, it's just scary.

8:23Ben Mandelker: Everything is scary. See, the name Black Island is kind of scary. When I think of like a tranquil place, I don't think Block Island. I think of block, like something bad's going to happen. I'm going to get hit by a block. so Kelsey is like this is the perfect place for all of us to like talk things through and have a good time and I like I have great things planned for the group I want world peace and just like call me Miss Congeniality I'm like I'm calling you Miss Barefoot in the Trash-ality because that's literally all I think of with Kelsey now so she's asking how you're like so how you feeling with Joellen going you know when it comes to like what I said to the day on the beach when it comes What comes comes What goes goes What stays stays What's ongoing ongoing I don't know what you're talking about Wait I just want to say it You know what I mean I watch out on Karen But I don't have to My goal was not to fight

9:18Ronnie Karam: Her saying was As I remembered it You know what I always say What comes comes And what comes goes Which I liked I was like, that's, that's deeper. It's like, it's deeper than initially sounds. Yeah.

9:36Ben Mandelker: There's a really weird note. By the way, there's like a really weird noise outside. Do you hear that? Is this, is this being, are you hearing it on the podcast? I want to know for the audience. Cause I'm like, no, it sounds like an alien invasion outside by window right now. It's like the, it's like the aliens of Block Island are like, do not talk badly about our Island. What is happening out there? Okay. Sorry, everyone. If you hear any traces of it, I apologize for the sound pollution.

10:00Ronnie Karam: Well, you know, I'm going to this trip like I'm simply not going to let things bother me, let things get into that place anymore, and I'm hoping Joellen is learning to do the same, but I'm not holding my breath, okay? Kelsey's like, well, maybe it can be a fresh start, and she's like, it's going to be good no matter what, and also, Rula's coming. Rula! Rula! Rula! Will Rula be here? Where's Rula? Rula's coming. Rula's walking in the door. Hey, it's me. Rula. It's been this whole season. It's been this whole season. Where's Rula? Sure, Rula's coming to this. I hear Rula's coming down the street.

10:44Hey, it's Rula.

10:46Ben Mandelker: Yeah, it comes Rula. Why is it funny when Liz says, I'm not holding my breath? because when she says that, it made me realize Liz sometimes looks like she just finished holding her breath for a very long time. She's like, ugh. So Kelsey says, this group is in desperate need for a vacation. You guys literally, like every episode, you guys are going down to Newport and like hanging on a beach or biking or going to like a fire pit. Like, oh God, the taxing ways of going to a polo match. Am I right? Yes, this group is in desperate need for a vacation. She says, you have Joellen and Liz, Joellen and Rula.

11:24Ben Mandelker: I guess that's it. I guess that's it for the list. I only could come up with two fights. But if I can make up with Rosie, these gals can make up with each other.

11:33Ronnie Karam: So now it's the day of the Block Island trip. And people start arriving. And Rich and Rosie are being wacky with their luggage. And Rich grabs a wheelbarrow to take all the luggage onto the ferry. And Rosie's like, well, I made it very clear to Kelsey. I don't want to be your friend and I can coexist with other friends. I just want to have fun. So what's the worst that can happen? One of your outfits, I'm sure because, Oh my God,

12:01Ronnie Karam: nothing has been more disturbing as some of the outfits that Rosie has worn in these confessionals. Good Lord. It's like every little girl's dream just crashed into that one dress. That one with like the pink and the purple glass bits all over it.

12:16Ben Mandelker: Yeah. Like that's, that's too much. Sorry, now there's like a band playing outside. I just want to say there's so much happening out there. It's like something. What in the world? I don't know what's happening outside. The world is ending, but there's also live performances. So Liz says, yeah, you know what? It's a very special island to us. Jerry and I got engaged there. We got married there. I sat there for three weeks waiting for him to come back with our boat there. I won't say I will never get divorced, but it won't be there.

12:51Ronnie Karam: We run a lot of not illegal, not drugs through them. Black Island. So other couples arrive and stuff. Everyone's hugging. And even Joellen and Liz are like, nice to see you. Nice to see you too. I'm about to see you dead, bitch. So they even hug. And Joellen's like, my goal of this trip is to move on with Liz. I just, I still care about her. It's just like an abusive relationship that I keep going back to over and over again. I mean, it's like my mom. It's like my mom trauma. But now it's with Liz. I just don't understand. Why has everyone got trauma with me?

13:27Ben Mandelker: You know what? It's like, I'm like, love me, love me, love me. And they love me. And then all of a sudden, they're hurtful and mean and cruel. And all I want to do is have that love and feeling back. So then we go to Ashley and Jared. And they're arriving at the ferry. And Jared has an announcement. We didn't miss the boat. And then.

13:50Ronnie Karam: They're still waiting on Rola and Brian, of course, because this is Rola and Brian. That's how they that's how they get attention everywhere they go to just always last. Or they say they're going to show up and then they don't. This this couple's addicted to the attention. So now they're talking about the party the other night. And Rosie's like, it was totally fine. And, you know, she's like, yeah, it was fine. But that also made it weird. So I don't know. okay, well, what does that mean? Like, it was weird, but like, fine. Like, I really don't understand.

14:22Ben Mandelker: I'm an athlete. And John's like, well, I know I haven't heard about any of this. Like, I would love to get caught up. So John says, I'm fine being here with Rula. It's Brian, you know, who's like, whatever. But guess what, everyone? All of Rhode Island falls their knees and rejoices because

14:40Ronnie Karam: here's Rula.

14:42Ben Mandelker: And here it is. Rula and Brian walking up, walking up to the ferry.

14:48Ronnie Karam: Joellen, good to see you. She's like, you look beautiful. You look beautiful in your pictures the other day.

14:55Ben Mandelker: So they hug and Rulo's like, thank you. Thank you so much. It was really pretty. Have you thought about wearing your sailor's hat? I think that would really complete the look. Alicia's like, yeah, I know her party was really nice. You know, we really did miss you. We miss you so much. And Rula says, I have mixed feelings about being stuck on the island with Joellen and not knowing what card she's going to try to potentially pull up next. Look at me. I'm bereft.

15:27Ronnie Karam: I got out of my sickbed today to find out what kind of cards we're going to be playing. Is it going to be Uno? Is it going to be Canasta? Is it going to be Go Fish? All right, someone cut Rula off. Just get onto the ferry. Get onto the ferry, Rula.

15:42Ben Mandelker: She's out of control with too much personality. This TV can only take so much.

15:47Ronnie Karam: So Jared's like, oh, God, is this a bad time to let everybody know that my jaw gets seasick? It's pretty. It's got a mind of its own.

15:55Ben Mandelker: It's pretty big. Oh, gosh. So, I mean, look, talk about sparkling personality. We can't just only come down to Rula. I mean, Jared, really, just. What has he contributed to this season? So far, it's that he's made lattes and he's gotten seasick. He has opened a can with a steak knife. You're right. You're right. He innovated. He innovated. It's pretty big.

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19:37Ben Mandelker: cry i'm not gonna cry he's gonna cry guys he's gonna cry i'm gonna cry because he's gonna cry

19:42Ronnie Karam: i'm literally not gonna cry and of course ashley is the one to do the titanic rose and jack there's always one on the boat and it's always the most basic girl and so you know it's it's ashley of course yeah i think that's like tamar this is like so romantic

20:01Ben Mandelker: uh yeah so she's doing that and being super super annoying and then um then so you haven't warmed up to ashley huh for this whole season no i haven't you know uh she seems like a perfectly nice person like i don't think she seems like a bad person i don't think she she i don't have any like issues with her per se. I just don't think that she's well cast for this show. I don't think that she fits in. I don't think, I don't see her having like real relationships with everyone. She just sort of is like there and like she interacts with people, but she's not, I don't know. I don't, I don't feel like there's, she's part of the fabric of this show.

20:38Ben Mandelker: And so, and like what, and what she does offer, I find to be pretty like annoying and basic. It's just, I don't think that she should come back. Unfortunately. No, I'm sorry.

20:51Ronnie Karam: You like her? You feel like she's - Yeah, I like Ashley. Yeah, I like Ashley. I mean, I've always liked Ashley. I liked her from Bachelor because she's just such a loony tune. It's like, I don't want to cry over this, but I'm crying. It's like, oh my God, Ashley, it's just breakfast. I know, but eggs, eggs, did anybody think about the chicken? Like the chicken came up her eggs.

21:16Ben Mandelker: I just want her - I just don't want her distracted with this show when she could be offering so much more to Audrey's, you know, really helping that business grow.

21:25Ronnie Karam: She really could. So Kelsey's like, we're here. Look, we're at Block Island now. It's so beautiful. We never heard anybody. And Joellen's like, my dress might blow up a couple of times. That's for sure. Hope my mom doesn't see her. I'll be off to the loony bin.

21:40Ben Mandelker: I know. Her mom is like, get that slut off of Block Island.

21:46Ronnie Karam: so Ashley's like um Black Island to Rhode Islanders it's like they're Caribbean like they really think like why go to Hawaii when you can go to Black Island

21:58Ben Mandelker: um I mean to be fair it has been funny how like every place they go to is like this is kind of like the French Riviera but it's our French Riviera and they're just like got like a pay

22:06Ronnie Karam: shoes block island is special because we got endless coastline beautiful waters quaint homes great restaurants of course the best seafood but i mean it is rhode island

22:24Ben Mandelker: does rilla know that all islands have endless coastline she's like look it's the only island in america that has an endless coastline it's kind of the nature of islands but yeah i love really giving her local her public access uh come visit block island pitch i mean the best seafood right so they they come they arrive at the block island beach house and the concierge is like hello welcome to ballard's you can leave your luggage here we're going to transfer it to your hotel um so we are welcome okay i'll talk to you later and then then they are this is kelsey this is on

23:03Ronnie Karam: This is a Kelsey quote. She's like, it's so cold and the tension's a little thick right now. I hope that this is not a foreshadow of the week. It's not a foreshadow.

23:16Ben Mandelker: I'm being chased by a foreshadow, foreshadow, foreshadow. So now they go to this restaurant. It's freezing cold, by the way. The waves are huge because it's clearly cold and windy. and they have to sit at this like beachside restaurant where they're all shivering and they're having strawberry daiquiris. I was like, this is an affront to Zach's facts. And they're all gathering, they all cheers. And Kelsey is like, okay, everyone, feel free to set up your stuff, whatever. This is all Oz. I'm like, yeah, of course it's all yours. No one's on the beach because it's 33 degrees out.

23:51Ronnie Karam: Yeah, it's a day you don't go to the beach for sure. So now Joellen and Liz go for a talk and everyone's watching them. Alicia's like, I'm happy they're talking. Rosie's like, oh my God, they haven't seen each other in a long time. She's like, no, they actually went out for dinner afterwards, but it didn't end well. And we see a clip of like, bye, bitch. Bye, crazy bitch. Piece of shit. Piece of shit. Rosie's like, they tried to make up, but they weren't seeing eye to eye. Alicia's like, I think they're going to move forward. I feel like they've been close for so long. I mean, like, they got it, they got it, right?

24:25Ronnie Karam: Let's watch them. So the other two go down for a walk and sit on the beach And Joellen's like, I miss you I miss you, Liz And Liz is like, agreed Agreed Go ahead Liz still looks like she wants to kick her ass

24:42Ben Mandelker: Liz hates her still Despite anything she says, she hates her Joellen's like, you know, there were a lot of things That was said, and I just want to move past it And I think that we have a genuine friendship Do you? And Liz is like Ah, yeah Yeah, I do. She does not like you, and she does not think it's genuine whatsoever. She just does not want to be in a fight with you anymore.

25:02Ronnie Karam: It's like, okay, well, I just wanted to check in. Like, I felt like I was going crazy. She's like, you know, I pretty much felt the same way. I don't want to rehash shit. I just do not want to rehash shit. Okay, someone?

25:16Ben Mandelker: Okay? Well, I know that there were some things that, like you said, and I don't think you meant all those things you said. This is probably like, I meant every single moment. Every single thing I said, I meant. Just, I mean, you know, the things that you said as well. She's like, yeah, exactly, exactly. And the thing is, the thing is that when you say I hurt you, you know, it's going into danger for me. And she's like, well, you didn't hurt me.

25:39Ronnie Karam: Well, what did you say? You put your hands on me. That's not okay. But you kicked my chair. And that wasn't nice. Okay. Because you don't do that. It's not nice to do. It's not nice to do that, Liz. She goes, well, I asked you to take your hands off me for three hours. Joe. And so we see a flashback of that, of Joe being like, stop it, Liz. Stop it, Liz. With her hands all over her.

26:02Ben Mandelker: Touching. She's fair. She did touch Liz quite a bit. So, that's an extended montage there. So Joellen is like, well, you know, I continued to do it because I thought it would calm you down. She's like, well, you continued to do that because you thought it was fucking irritating. Yeah, kind of like, yeah, yeah, kind of kind of like, yeah, kind of like, yeah. So Joellen's like, you were wrong on that one, Liz. She's like, well, okay, anyway, babe, look, I don't want to do this. Now they're all watching. But Kelsey takes a moment to admire Billy's physique because we see Billy shirtless playing around in the surf.

26:35Ben Mandelker: And she's like, wow, Billy's in shape. Is he wealthy? Can he support two wives? He thinks he's Baywatch coming out of the water right now.

26:43Ronnie Karam: Like he thinks he's Baywatch. He's got a big ass. Like all his pants will always fall off and his crack's always hanging out. That's Bill. That's my Bill. So then we go back to Liz. The pants would not fall off of the ass, actually. That's what I say. Yeah, tell me about it. I've got a pancake, and my crack is always out. There's nothing for it to hold on to, the pant. You know, the pant's like, oh, give me something, anything. I'm like, nope, that would require work. So, yeah, back to Liz and Joellen. Liz is like, so listen, things have been done. Things have been said. Maybe on both our ends, it is broken trust.

27:16Ronnie Karam: Maybe for both of us. Maybe we can start over from a new place. Something has to get rebuilt here Okay We gotta rebuild something from the start

27:28Ben Mandelker: So Joellen's like She's like well I think that I can move on from this I don't want to I don't want to start the friendship over Okay I actually want to go back to where we were And I want to improve our friendship I can move on from things that you said And I hope you can move on from the things that I said And it's just water under the bridge

27:48Ronnie Karam: Okay well if we're both able to focus on the positive, and okay, that's certainly, that's what I want to do. I mean, listen, you're charismatic, you're, um, you're fun sometimes, um, you're funny. Okay, let's just move on, and we'll have a strong friendship going forward. You good with that? You good with that? Okay. We good with that?

28:14Ben Mandelker: You want to hug me? You want to hug me, my friend? Joellen's like uh sure okay so they hug and then they're like being all sweet and they're like rolling around in the sand and Liz is like the tension between us actually broke my heart I adore her so I'm letting Joellen off the hook I love that it's been like two weeks I'm like she's fucking evil we're never gonna be friends again she's a fake person she should rot in hell yeah she's a great person I love her yeah I'll let her off the hook

28:43Ronnie Karam: so now with the other ladies Rola's like before they come back I just want to thank you guys for, you know, I know I haven't been around a lot. Between me not feeling well. And then they cut to her like in a full face of glam being like, oh, in her bed. To, you know, all the other stuff going on. You know, work, having my chops busted. You know about my marriage. And so I think that everything just came down on me, girls. Rula's like, you know, I think everything just came down on me. And Kelsey's like, were you able to speak with Joe Allen? She's like, you know, I haven't spoken with her since Polo.

29:23Ronnie Karam: And then we see a flashback of Polo where Joe Allen's whispering to Rula, you know what? He can say whatever he wants to you, Rula. Okay. But like it's going on. And if you want proof, I will figure it out. And Rula's like, which is an important clip because Joe Allen says about 20 more times. She begged me for proof. Yeah. She asked me for proof and I got it.

29:45Ben Mandelker: which is like well yeah i mean like because of course rule is gonna say yeah find me the proof find me more proof but i mean i don't know but it's true like joelle and definitely inserted herself in this situation and um but like don't don't get that mistaken for me defending brian or rula in this however but like at a certain point joelle and you just be like okay this is someone who wants to look the other way just step out of it just get out of there because it's you're just going to turn on you no matter what. You're not going to get the thank you that you're looking for.

30:22Ronnie Karam: Well, and I guess the story that they're going with is that Joellen knows a friend of the mistress. So Joellen's friends with the mistress's friends. And so that's how she's getting all of this information. But it's like, yeah, I mean, it is kind of awkward that you keep getting information about my husband and sharing it with everybody through this mysterious source. I can see how that would be annoying, but also your husband's a fucking cheater. So, like, I don't know. So then we, Rula's like, well, I'm not stupid. I'm very well in tune with what's going on. But there's always a story behind a story.

31:00Ronnie Karam: And you're not giving me the impression that you're my friend when you're collaborating with other people behind the scenes trying to, like, stir the pot. and dig up more information.

31:13Ben Mandelker: You just got Rulad. So Joellen and Liz are still now happy that they've squashed their beef. So Joellen's like, Dolly Wally, I miss you.

31:24Ronnie Karam: Dolly Wally, thank you. I miss you too.

31:27Ben Mandelker: And then Rosie is now talking and she's like, well, I thought of Polo. She said, do you want proof? And she said that you said, if you have proof, show it to me. and Rose was like, well, I said, all right, I'll give you a chance. And she said, I'm trying to talk to you one-on-one. And I'm like, no, you're not. We're at a group event with hundreds, whatever, thousands of people. Little did I realize I'd soon be on my deathbed, about to die from a common cold. What's not so common was that it was going to kill me. And this is not the time of place.

32:00Ronnie Karam: You talked to me in front of hundreds of people, thousands of people,

32:04Ben Mandelker: hosses. Millions.

32:07Ben Mandelker: Hosses. There were just millions and millions of people watching me on the Jumbotron hearing this news. It was a lot.

32:16Ronnie Karam: It's not the time. It's not the place. That's disingenuous to me. Put yourself in my shoes. If someone did that to you at a public event in front of Haas's, what would you do? Rosie's like, hmm, well, yeah, like, I guess obviously I wouldn't like that. She goes, yeah, come on. But, you know, like, I'd also want to see it, you know? Like, I want to see everything before I made my decision. I mean, oh, God. Rich and fucking somebody in a video? Let me see it. He's so fine. God, would he be singing? Would he be singing in this video? I think it's kind of hot.

32:51Ben Mandelker: Well, Rulo, we're starting to realize that she doesn't want to accept the reality in this situation. You're just starting to realize that? What part about— It's episode 12. Yeah. What part about her catatonic response to any of this says she doesn't want to accept the reality? She's like, I don't think ignorance is bliss. I would like to have all the information so I can handle it accordingly because I know I don't want to be defending Rich to the death if there are some videos of Rich hugging some other woman. Or should I say slamping when she didn't have a bra on? Like, I don't know.

33:20Ronnie Karam: Yeah. So the waiter comes over and he's like, hey, guys, I've got something you can only get in Block Island. Gummy bear shots.

33:31Ben Mandelker: Disgusting. so they're they're doing these shots and listen to doing her slowly and alicia's so billy and gary are at the bar this is alicia's billy not kelsey's billy and so billy is like hey so uh so uh gary you've known alicia since middle school huh he's like yeah we made our communion together it's like yeah okay well people always give us a hard time i can't believe you guys aren't married right god god i really want to motivate you gary god it really is true what they say about you up close wow oh sorry i was anyway tell me more about them then we cut to the aunties like why

34:07Ronnie Karam: ain't she married billy can we have a wedding here come on you're killing me here billy

34:14Ben Mandelker: so billy's like i just feel like uh it feels i think she feels like i let her down and guy's like you think so it's like yeah i don't know it's like she's kind of like complained about you know i'm not romantic and stuff like that you know so we see a flashback to when alicia's like Like, yeah, you know, like maybe you should like ask me the right way to marry you. I don't know. Something surprised me.

34:34Ronnie Karam: Gary's like, I don't know. You seem pretty romantic to me. I don't know. You're pretty romantic now. Yeah, get the fuck out of there.

34:40Ben Mandelker: Yeah, get the fuck out of there. Get the fuck out of there.

34:42Ronnie Karam: It feels pretty romantic to me. Yeah, get your hand on my nuts. Yeah, it's romantic. Feels good. Feels good. So Alicia's like, Billy knows how I love fairy tales. I'm such a girly girl. So my proposal did really feel like a fairy tale. Like I was maybe like eight months pregnant. I was so sick. I had bronchitis to the point where I couldn't get out of bed. And I kept hearing, Alicia, Alicia, you got to see this. And it was on the bureau of my clothes where I had to pick up the ring. And I was like, okay, I love it. I mean, thank you. I got bronchitis. What do you want me to say? I love it. And he didn't even get on his knee.

35:15Ronnie Karam: I had so much mucus. I needed a fuzzicle. I had a fuzzicle, and I went to bed. That's how I got engaged. I had a fuzzicle.

35:25Ben Mandelker: I believe she called it a fuzzicle. a fudgical a fudgical I'm like that is it she's like I believe in fairy tales I'm like well didn't you hear the story about the princess who had bronchitis and you had a fudgical and wound up with a ring instead I mean that's a pretty famous story I think it's a fudgical

35:42Ronnie Karam: so Billy's like I want to be like let's reset think about the future you know like maybe I could do a reproposal and Carrie's like I love that I just got a hard on see you're romantic yeah look her in the eye tell her We're going to commit to us. All right, baby? All right, I like that. I like that a lot. I think you're going to have a home run with that. Boom.

36:03Ben Mandelker: Yeah, big one. So now Rula is talking to Liz and Kelsey and Ashley. And Rula's like, after having so much stress this summer, personally, I'm so happy being here. Look, can't you hear all the glee in my voice?

36:20Ronnie Karam: Liz is like, enjoy yourself. Be in peace in your heart. That's all you can do. It's being peace in your heart. Well, Liz and Joellen, they went off to have a little chat, right?

36:31Ben Mandelker: A little heart to heart, right? Yeah, how was that talk?

36:36Ronnie Karam: How was that talk, you guys? And Liz is like, it's fine. If you feel like there's anything you want to bring up to Joellen, do it. Do it, Rula. Do it. She's like, if I were to say anything, there's a video that Joellen showed everyone at the castle. I would bring that up. It's nobody's all due. Fucking business. Ouch. Oh, God. Don't tell my kids I talk like that. I just want to handle my story my own way. Is that OK? Commercials. Here comes one right now. This episode is sponsored by Klarna. You know, when you buy something practical like groceries, plane tickets or honestly, I just did a whole.

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39:27Ben Mandelker: Meanwhile, Rosie and Joelle and Alicia are sitting on the hotel porch. And Rosie's like, we have so much to tell you about. So here's the thing. Rula had called me when she invited me to the party, and she's like, I'd love to talk to you about what happened, and I miss you so much. And specifically at the mansion, I really want to know what happened. so we had a nice time at the party and it was like almost over and then I just like straight up asked her, I was like, do you know about the video? And like she was like, no. And I was like, okay well, do you want to know about the video? And then she was like, without even saying anything about the video, she's like, it's fake.

39:56Ben Mandelker: Okay. And Joanne's like, how does she know it's fake? She's like, well, that's what I'm saying. She just like decided that. Like either way, she's like, well, this is like information. I don't want it. Like whatever. And I was like, well, here's information. And then Brian walked up and then he was like it's fake. I was like, stupid.

40:10Ronnie Karam: And Lisa goes, oh yeah. he came up i thought he was gonna blow his load like what yeah blow his load and joelle's like blow his load like come she goes wait what she goes yeah blowing your load means come and she goes no no blowing your load like blowing your shit like oh i'm sorry i guess i got that wrong i like that joelle's like oh sorry my bad yeah joella knew joelle's like i'm not gonna fight

40:34Ben Mandelker: this fight i'm just gonna let her say blow her load blow his load over and over again so uh rose is like yeah he was turning bright red and i was like this is this is where there are videos of brian and this is what you're doing oh god he must have just been like coming all over the place huh no see alicia you're getting it wrong it will come in like the anger was coming in from all different directions right that's what i mean coming from all over the place right

40:58Ronnie Karam: what's wrong with saying that rosie's like oh he had nothing to say he was like oh it's fake it's fake i mean they literally just kept saying it's fake well at the end of the day you get nothing for nothing and i'm not going to be the fall guy for this okay because she asked me for proof and i got the proof and brian wants to deny it then that's fine then why are you going to talk about it with me huh huh why are you going to talk shit about me why you gotta do that you asked for proof

41:20Ben Mandelker: i got your proof oh my god it's like it's like brian got a like a like a pearl necklace after that am i right guys it's like a big pearl necklace that's what you say when someone's angry, right? They're so angry they give you pearls, like pearls of anger, right? What's wrong? Why are you guys looking at me that way?

41:36Ronnie Karam: Well, he probably really felt like he had a dirty Sanchez after that talk.

41:41Ben Mandelker: It's not what you mean, Alicia.

41:45So

41:45Ben Mandelker: Joellen's like, well, I've got proof. I've got proof, once again. And Rose's like, yeah, but she doesn't want to believe that. If you could believe it, she doesn't want to believe it. So then Rula, back to Rula. She's like, I would just appreciate now that Joellen and let it just be and not judge how I'm handling things in my own household because I've had it. I'm exhausted. I'm on the brink of death once again. So say your final respects because in a few hours, I might just be dead.

42:15Ronnie Karam: So Kelsey's like, well, I think it moved on from her being called a liar and now it's just like, team, I'm not a liar and I'm going to find you every information to show you I'm not the liar. And we cut back to Joelle and she's like, the proof is there. The proof is there. The proof is in the pudding, okay? And you know what? Pudding is what it is. And people like pudding. That's it. People want to eat the pudding. So I'm so sorry I made pudding. That's it.

42:39Ben Mandelker: I really need some pudding right now, actually, because my throat is so sore and I'm not sure they have got any fudgicals on this island. So anything to soothe it a little bit would be nice. So Joanne's like, you asked me for facts. I didn't just randomly go digging in your business. I digged in your business intentionally. so then she's so upset that she knocks over like some sort of like vase in her confessional she's like see see that just goes to prove it she's waving her hands around so she's like i don't

43:07Ronnie Karam: lie i'm very upfront you know i'm very honest to a fault like you either love me if you don't and this is i'm not going to be called a liar the cameraman's like ow jesus so then we go back to Rula and Kelsey's like, you guys need to talk, okay? Not fight, just talk. But we tried talking. It was more of the same. But do you know how many conversations I had to have with Rosie before we just agreed to disagree? Okay, live in your tiny house you want to call huge. What do you want from me? Okay?

43:36Ben Mandelker: Just squash it like I do with my garbage and my barefoot and move on. I promise that she'll end it. Rula's like, well, I just don't really feel the need ready for a conversation right now. So maybe as friends, you can relay the message. No, I'm not doing that. You can relay your own message, Rula. Say it on your own terms. Don't you say it yourself of your own mouth, Rula.

44:01Ronnie Karam: So then we go back to Joellen and Joellen's like, I got the proof. Like, who's the problem? It's Brian. Okay. And that's it. And I'm done. And I don't even want to talk about it anymore. I'm done with this. Okay. I am washing on, washing off with both of my hands. I'm done. So then we go back to the women on the beach and Kelsey's like you guys need to talk and so the whole group goes up to the hotel and Jerry's like what is this thing Billy's like it's a smart car he's like what the fuck is that

44:32Ben Mandelker: 15 years on Jerry sees his first smart car so so funny what is this what is this block island it's like walking on to the future look because they even got calls that are smart okay so they go in and they're like oh my god it's look at this it's storybook in here so then then these the staff gives them these bright blue beverages much like their reunion outfits which i don't know if you've gotten a glimpse of but they're basically their uh the color palette they were given was essentially crappens blue and they just all had to wear uh tacky mermaid

45:13Ronnie Karam: colored kind of things yeah so the lady who works here is like i'm emily and i'm from warwick rhode island oh my god thank god you're from rhode island oh yeah but you better be from rhode island we'd fucking string you up she's like contractually obligated to announce which part

45:30Ben Mandelker: of rhode island she's from otherwise they will kick her off of block island like what yeah no

45:34Ronnie Karam: get out other they couldn't have on jennifer this shift because jennifer is like hi i'm jennifer i'm from hoboken yeah they definitely could not so she earns her bona fides bona fides

45:50Ben Mandelker: my brain is dead uh by uh saying that she's from warwick and uh emily that she gives out keys she's like okay so you're gonna get the penthouse kelsey and then liz you get this one and everyone else you're just like around the back and they're like oh okay everyone else great thanks yeah so they're

46:10Ronnie Karam: all given their rooms and uh everyone goes to check out their rooms and stuff and then ruler's like oh my god all this crap i brought to block island how am i gonna fit it and then uh liz and gary go to their or jerry go to their i don't know everyone's just looking at their rooms and talking about what are we gonna do meanwhile alicia and billy are unpacking and alicia's like i'm gonna close my eyes for five minutes out my finger on my finger i just need silence okay you can unpack i'm just gonna need five minutes with me and my finger by the way uh we almost overlooked

46:45Ben Mandelker: joellen calling her bitch mom and uh saying like hi mom and her mom being like hi how are you and waving back what a monster so um there we go there we go over so ashley and jared are talking

47:07Ronnie Karam: about clothes ashley's trying on clothes she's like um do i look mature at this he's like do i look like i'm about to die from seasickness because i almost did today she's like oh my god jared jared i almost lost you today jared what are you doing i'm trying to film the wallpaper

47:23Ben Mandelker: I'm restless. I don't know what to do with my hands.

47:29Ronnie Karam: So Joellen's like, yeah, you know, listen, I took a walk, Gary. And, you know, I've just missed her so much. Like to me, Liz is like family. Okay. And that's why I hurt so much. And when she was like, I'm not your friend. I'm like, you are my friend. You are my friend.

47:45Ben Mandelker: So then Rula and Brian, back to them. Brian's like, how did it go with the ladies? well we talked about how i feel like you know joellen and everything i finally just said i'd appreciate everybody letting me manage my own situation privately before of course i leave this mortal realm which will happen in about five minutes it's like well yeah especially being here

48:07Ronnie Karam: especially being here i think back it makes me regret anything more than what even more than what happened here she's like wait what it's like yeah you know i regret so much more now like i I remember fucking her right there. Look behind that dumpster. I just fucked her right there. You didn't get that video? That was a good one. I actually set up the tripod for that one.

48:28Ben Mandelker: That one was pretty good. I mean, our first date was right in that building pretty much. We're strong. Our kids are strong. I'm proud of you when I see you talking with everybody. She's like, we never had a date in this building. No, I'm talking about my mistress. Our first date was here. God, it's great to be back.

48:44Ronnie Karam: She's like, you know what? It ended up fine. He's like, good, good, good. Okay. let's not talk about this so we go back to joellen and she's like i mean he's continued the affair whether he wants to whether she wants to believe it or not she's like oh my god please get me proof it's not true get me proof do whatever you need to do hire private investigators film your own videos get me the proof please and i did it am i the bad guy and then gary's like yeah i mean she

49:13Ben Mandelker: seems very uh like she pushes it off like it's not a big deal i mean if you want to push it off that's fine but like that's well and good but what you don't do is you don't fucking blame me all i want is my name to be clear i just want her to admit that when i researched who brian was cheating on her with i did it because i was told to not because i did it up because of my own volition i mean i was i was told to when i said i want to i want to research this with my own volition do i permission to do it from you as well and she said uh okay i just wanted to admit that that was the case.

49:49Ronnie Karam: All right. So go talk to her. Be like, all right. You don't want to see it that's your own prerogative, but you asked me to get your proof and I got your proof. So I don't appreciate being called a liar. All right. Because I got proof that you've been calling me a liar.

50:01Ben Mandelker: I don't like it. So Alicia's wandering around. She's like, I don't know where I'm going. I'm nervous. I love it. Oh, I love that there's a mermaid over here. Oh, and a tits at. What's that? And Blake's like, what's going on? She's like, oh my God. Oh my God. We're going somewhere. Look at this knocker. She's got her knockers out. Oh, my God. It's a helpless mermaid. Oh, my God. Where are we going? He's like, okay, come on. We're going down the stairs. Oh, my God. Shit. Oh, God. No, I can't go down the stairs. Oh, shit. It's like a suicide note. Okay. No, he's like, what are you talking about? Suicide note?

50:29Ben Mandelker: No, because like you go, you know, I can't do stairs. You go first. I can't do it. It's too much.

50:33Ronnie Karam: Yeah, you go first. You don't have an issue with the stairs. You know, I could fall on you. You know, you remember what happened on the stairs. you remember when I accidentally killed that woman on the stairs. Okay, you go first. You go first. So he takes her down, and they go out onto the beach, which is windy. And he's had some, like, I don't know.

50:50Ben Mandelker: Wait, wait, we can't skip over Alicia's backstory of why she's afraid of stairs. She goes, Because you know what happened a long time ago? My mom dropped me down on the flight of stairs. So now the sense I have a flight of stairs. What was that?

51:00Ronnie Karam: She's like, Oh my God, you know I have heels. Please. You know what happened when mom dropped me down the stairs? What?

51:08Ben Mandelker: the way she just inserts these random backstories these random little items in there oh my god i had a bronchitis and a fudgical oh my god then i fell down the stairs and then i ran over a person

51:18Ronnie Karam: oh it's awful it's awful then at the bottom a guy blew his load very upset very upset you know and now ever since i have a phobia stairs he's like oh my god let's just go outside please He goes, why don't we calm down for a second and sit down over there? And he points to a spot with two Adirondack chairs surrounded by, I don't know, cheesy, like, fake candles and stuff. She goes, oh, my God, did you do a romantic thing? Oh, my God, is this for me? Did somebody else do it? Who did this? Is this for me?

51:49Ben Mandelker: You got to sit on the chair first. I'm scared of Adirondack chairs. You know me. Ever since my mom threw one at my head, it's just very scary for me. So then they sit down. And meanwhile, everyone's like watching from the hotel. They're like, wait a second. Is Billy doing something romantic? This is weird. You know, it's like, oh, my God, you've never done this before. I don't remember the last time Billy made a romantic gesture. So I'm like, did you do something wrong? Who is this for? Are you going to make me a hot shit pizza? What's happening?

52:15Ronnie Karam: It's like, wow, I'm going to cry. You never did anything, Billy. He's like, but I'm doing it now. Yeah, but you never done anything. Did you do this? Who did this? Okay, wait, I'm going to cry because you never did anything. He's like, honey, sometimes we're like two ships in the night. Yeah. We kind of go in different directions. Wait, what do you mean different directions? Where are the ships going? Why are there two ships?

52:37Ben Mandelker: What's happening? They're going to crash into each other. Oh, my God, Billy. It's going to be an accident. Oh, no. Get someone to the authorities. Stop the ships. He's like, no, no, no. He's like, look, sometimes we're like this, and you want this, and I want that. And we get caught up in stuff that's not important. And I feel like it holds us back. And I just feel like, Alicia, we've had an interesting journey. But what about the ships? Are they okay? It's like, no ships, Alicia. There's no ships. So then Rosie, of course, goes to the window. And she's like, oh, my God. Look, it's cute. She's always making noise.

53:04Ben Mandelker: She's like, Rosie, shut up. Let them out of their moment.

53:08Ronnie Karam: She's, of course, making it about her and screaming out the window. And Billy is like, yeah, we had a lot of good times. You know, we had some bad times, some scary times, right? And I feel like, you know, we put all the focus on Selena, which we always do, right? Right. But we're talking the other day and you're like, don't you think you should redo the proposal? And I was like, oh, my God, that was so far out of my mind. Yeah, but now you're going one way on a ship. I'm going the other way on a ship. How are we ever going to propose? Like, this is crazy. And like an Adirondack chair, you remember what happened.

53:37Ronnie Karam: You remember when I got my butt bone stuck in an Adirondack chair and I had to go to the hospital to get it removed? That was so embarrassing. Never going to forget that.

53:46Ben Mandelker: When you talk about redoing proposals, you want me to do the Pizza Mama proposal again? You want to hear it again? He's like, no, no, no. Here, here's some roses. Oh my God, I love red roses. Well, I love them, but you got to touch it first because you remember what happened when I touched the red rose that time and I fell asleep for 16 years. Okay, I don't want to get cursed again.

54:03Ronnie Karam: It wasn't you. I just feel like I'm not getting any younger. She's like, mm-hmm. He goes, hey, wait a minute. Thanks a lot. She's like, well, I'm just happy you realized that because you're really old, Billy. You're really old.

54:14Ben Mandelker: Well, we just get caught up sometimes in the busyness of life, you know? So then Jared and Ashley are watching And Jared's like aw Alicia and Bill are out there right now She's like oh really He's like yeah it's cute Well hopefully it's cute Oh that's what I was gonna say Oh my god now what am I gonna say instead

54:33Ronnie Karam: Listen I think this is a moment Yeah I'm so proud of you cause you never done nothing I'm not romantic No you're not romantic But I'm trying to be This is the best moment you've ever done for me Billy This is the best moment ever I mean it's time for the stairs which traumatized me in the Adirondack Cheers Also traumatized me, you know, but still, still, it's cut, it's cut.

54:52Ben Mandelker: And the ships, I'm a bit scared of ships now after you told me that story about the ships that almost crashed. So he's like, okay, okay, well, look, look, I'm going to propose to you again. So yeah, let me, let me get that ring off your fingers. He's like, he's like, starts pulling the ring off her finger.

55:04Ronnie Karam: She goes, what the fuck?

55:10Ben Mandelker: Jesus, Lord almighty. He's like, well, I'm trying to get the ring off. She's like, okay, hold on. So he's like, okay, can you stand up? She's like, I have to stand. I can't just get that on your knee. He's like, okay, I'm trying to be romantic here. Okay, fine. I'm getting my knee. So they're watching. And he proposes and everything. And Billy's like, you give back something slightly, a little special and awkward. It's an awkward circumstance considering everything that's going on around us now. But will you do the honor of marrying me again?

55:40Ronnie Karam: She's like, but you never asked me, though. And he goes, but I just did. All right, now put it on my finger. Put it on my finger. He's like, I am. I'm trying. Ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow. This reminds me of that time we went bowling. You tried to make me take a ball that was too small. Very traumatic, Billy. But you're doing good. You're doing good, Billy. You're doing good.

55:57Ben Mandelker: Can you just stand up and kiss me? She's like, yeah, okay, yeah, I love you. I love you. And so then they embrace and they kiss. I'm like, this was very lovely, but you should have had some crackers there for her too. Let's be honest.

56:08Ronnie Karam: Crackers or another ring or I don't know, something. It's like a free beach with Adirondack chairs. I don't know. I would have made him work a little harder for this. He should have had a new ring. There should have been a new ring. She goes, I would be dead without you. He's like, okay. But also we got your favorite drink. And they've got it. Champagne. He's like, you guys, it's a big deal, okay? Because Billy did get on his knee last time. He didn't even ask my mother.

56:32Ben Mandelker: He's like, okay, you know what? Focus on the moment. I am, I am. I'm just like so proud of you. He's like, okay, so this is a restock. Okay, can't live in the past. All right? I'm just so happy I had my dream proposal. It's so surreal. And I love that Billy's actually listening I love him so much more It was worth the wait

56:49Ronnie Karam: She goes yeah You know what We've been engaged for 10 years But now this is like another 10 We could be engaged You know I can't wait to tell my family You know like some people Redo their vows every 10 years Maybe we could just redo our Proposal every 10 years

57:08Ronnie Karam: So silly So everybody's like Wow they got engaged This is amazing So everybody's cheersing them from the windows and stuff. And then Rosie comes running over cheering. Jared's like, ah, very sweet.

57:26Ben Mandelker: It's like, okay, well, you really don't show enthusiasm for anything, do you?

57:31Ronnie Karam: So they're all like, oh, my God, that was so romantic. And Alicia's like, I can't wait to marry you. But now I want an all-white wedding with bubbles, and I want my daughter in pink. I want a mermaid gown, you know, but, like, with no top on. because those nakas really got to me.

57:45Ben Mandelker: It was a good inspiration. In fact, I'm going to make all the waitresses a pizza mama dress like those mermaids, just topless mermaids, waitresses, serving pizza.

57:55Ronnie Karam: So now Brian comes down. They're like, oh, God, Brian's here. It's like, wow, now it's a celebration. How excellent. We cut to Gary leaving Joellen and his room, and Joellen's like, okay, I'm going up to Rula's room now. He's like, all right, babe, you got this, all right? Don't forget what I told her. told you to tell her you got it i believe in you kid and then downstairs brian has a great story

58:18Ben Mandelker: he goes you know good things come for those who wait i was looking out and i was saying who is that and i said oh my god that's them this concludes brian's story time um so gary's like hey uh how's it going what's going on and leech is like did you see my engagement guy he's like yeah how'd you guys do how'd you guys do like we did a good job we did a good job so now rule is in her room doing something or another and she's just humming she's like like a sims character you know when sims characters hum to themselves that's what ruler does and uh joellen she's like hi can i come in is it okay if i come in i'm gonna speak in my kind voice which is my way of trying to say i told you so but uh in a nice way just getting you ready okay oh my god so i heard

59:06Ronnie Karam: hooting and hollering i saw her in two chairs was it romantic she's like oh my god it was adorable um and uh sarula's like what's going on so joellen's like well i just wanted to talk to you i want to clear the error because you know i know that alicia and rosie talked to you the other day and i i don't know i just i just want to talk privately with us because i'm not trying to overstep okay because you asked me please please joellen whatever you do get proof follow him

59:34Ben Mandelker: whatever you can do get me the proof i need remember that well i think it was more maybe the way it was portrayed when i was on my deathbed when everybody was at the castle like i don't know like i was having visions and saying things that couldn't be taken too seriously you know i saw i saw bob marley and jesus it was a weird connection i heard a girl from south south carolina saying something about wavy gravy it was a weird moment for me i don't know

1:00:03Ronnie Karam: So she's basically like, okay, well, if you had this information, it would have been nice if you told me and not shared it in front of the whole group laughing around a fire at the mansion while I'm not there, which I think is valid. And Joellen's like, yeah, but I knew that you were going through what you were going through, and I don't want to bother you. So you're about to die at the castle.

1:00:25Ben Mandelker: I didn't want your last dying moments to be filled with realization that your husband is a dirty, shitty cheater. So then downstairs, meanwhile, speaking of which, Gary's like, hey, Brian, can we talk for a second? So Gary's like, I just want to pull you aside because I just want to let you know that if you want to motorboat my boobies, you can do it. Everyone wants to do it. So this is your chance. And when you're done, I just want to say, I don't really want to make a scene aside from the motorboating. Joellen's upset in the room. And because you and Rula are calling her a liar because of this video, whatever you're doing, that's what you're doing.

1:00:57Ben Mandelker: But she's getting called a liar now.

1:00:59Ronnie Karam: I don't like it. Yeah. So Joellen upstairs is saying the same thing. She's like, you know, you said get me proof. You begged for proof. And like, I mean, I got proof, but now you're calling me a liar. So you want to see the proof? I'm here to help you. Do you want to see it? I actually brought in Apple TV so we can airplay it. So that's cool. That's right. Just scream downstairs. Everybody in the diner will see it.

1:01:19Ben Mandelker: We have about 45 ,000 people in the lobby online. They are waiting to see your reaction. So I just wanted to set this up and just press play. I don't need to see it.

1:01:29Ronnie Karam: You know, I don't need to see Mickey Mouse dancing around with Minnie to know that they was just drawn by somebody.

1:01:38Ben Mandelker: And Ruel's like, you know, instead of like picking me up, I feel like with all this info, I've been broken down all summer long. But like, here's more and here's more and here's more. Soon there'll be more hooting and hollering. Gotta watch out.

1:01:55Ronnie Karam: I don't need to see the video. Why do I need to see it? What am I going to give myself a headache or a heartache by something that might have been taken previously? So anyone can fake a date timestamp. But at this point, I have confidence in Brian and me, and I just don't need any more. What? This stuff is sensitive.

1:02:16Ben Mandelker: Maybe your skin is freaking in mine.

1:02:18Ronnie Karam: Rula's argument is that Brian did do all these things, but it was in the past. And now Joellen is taking up past videos and pretending that they're recent to make her look stupid. those videos are out like the videos are out there like and you denying it and and just saying i don't even want to see it you don't know what's in the past just look at the video what is wrong i know

1:02:39Ben Mandelker: yeah information is power so now gary's like so uh all i know is i saw the video brand's like hey you know but um you know uh but like how is she a liar when there's a video out there she's like well, hey, I don't know that she's a liar, because I'm, like, I'm admitting, like, hey, I fucked up, I videotaped, I did whatever, it's the biggest mistake of my life, you know, I fucked up, I don't know what you want me to say, I don't know if, you know, if it was middle age, or, like, I took too many hormones, or, I don't know, some of those things, but, like, I don't know what the fuck it is, but, like, what my wife and I think about it is, like, you know, we're over this, we're just trying to get past it, you know, she's about to die, keeps me, keeps me brought up to us, and just stop talking about it, nobody will have any money, ill will towards anybody, that's it, I don't know.

1:03:24Ronnie Karam: All right. That's it. That's all I needed to hear from you. That's it. He's like, that's the whole thing, though, because I don't think she's a liar. I know she's not a liar. What she, you know, she says I admit to, you know, just stop talking about it. Okay. We know I did it. Just be quiet about it. Okay. She's not a liar, though. He's like, that's all I needed. Yeah.

1:03:42Ben Mandelker: Basically, all they want is for Joanne's name to be cleared after she got involved in this stupid mess.

1:03:48Ronnie Karam: It's so funny. And then this guy is just like, yeah, I cheated. We all know I cheated. Stop bringing it up. Okay.

1:03:55Ben Mandelker: Yeah, seriously, seriously. Um, so Joellen, she's like, I don't want anything to happen to you. I say, good, but you don't, you don't know how I felt this entire summer. I felt like absolute complete total shit. Well, I'm sorry you're dealing with that. I feel for you. I can't imagine what you're going through, but if you want, I can make it worse if you want me to do some more videos. Okay. She said, yes she blinked that means yes okay i'll be back next week with four more videos okay you begged

1:04:25Ronnie Karam: for it i i can't say no you begged so they make up and joellen's like i'm sorry everything happened i mean i just want to move past this and if it'll make it easier i put music behind this video so it's good i mean it's got like more of an upbeat you know to make it a little bit easier i put

1:04:42Ben Mandelker: little kitty cat ears on brian's face with something but you threw a snapchat filter so

1:04:47Ronnie Karam: it looks like a little doggy is cheating on you. Every time he smiles he goes, So they hug. Yeah, and the guys make up. Everybody makes up. So now they're all gathering downstairs. And meanwhile, Joellen passes Brian in the hallway and they're like, hello, hello. So Gary tells Rosie, he's like, oh my god, this guy, he just fucking admitted everything. She's like, oh my god, he admitted the video was real? He admitted the video was real.

1:05:17Ben Mandelker: It's like fucking Gary what Oh fucking Gary so it was me and Alicia Sorry and Alicia says I'm completely Surprised Brian is admitting this it's like Why I can't like this man Brian He's a lot of work So uh so like Rola's like how's it going Brian he's like good how are you I was talking to Joel and how'd it go Um

1:05:40Ronnie Karam: Alright let's go downstairs now He just completely ignores it

1:05:46Ben Mandelker: also like what do these two talk about when if this show is not happening what do these two sit in their house and talk about like i don't understand this relationship yeah it's crazy

1:05:56Ronnie Karam: so uh they go downstairs everyone's joining they're gonna go have a big dinner together meanwhile gary's telling everyone oh my god brian completely admitted it joan's like he did and gary says uh yeah so i've read it with him you know i said well i'm not gonna talk about it no more then. And as long as it's out in the open and Joelle is not being portrayed as a liar. I don't give a fuck. I wonder why you fucking care. She's like, oh my God, you look like a moron. You look dumb. I've washed my hands of Brian and Rula. Stay with your husband. I don't care.

1:06:27Ben Mandelker: Yeah, so they all go outside and they're sitting at this table. It's freezing out. And they sit at this long table and Alicia's like, Billy, Billy, don't carry that torch. Okay, you Greek style, you motherfucker. Don't carry the torch. Don't carry the torch. Motherfucker, you know what? You don't mean torches. I can't do it. I can't do it. My mother wants to knock the torch down on my hand. Put me up to a crisp. Okay, don't do it. I can't be near a torch. I can't do it.

1:06:51Ronnie Karam: And Jerry's like, well, the good news is it's only going to get colder tonight. Enjoy it now. And Rula's like, thank you, Jerry, for putting a positive spin on it. Ha. Ha. Okay, you guys. I get the Block Island love affair you have. You know, I finally have my own, like, romantic issue with Billy. And it was in Block Island of all places. He proposed to me again right over there. right over there.

1:07:14Ben Mandelker: They're like, whoa, yeah, we all saw. And he did all the roads to champagne. I cried. I just said it though. Okay, because I said, instead of renewing our vows, we're going to renew our engagement after nine years. So then, and then Kelsey's like, guess what guys? I know you're all wondering what's in this box. And of course someone says, what's in the box? So she goes, guys, okay, so this is, okay, this is clamshell confessional. We're going to go around and everyone's going to pick from here. Okay, You're going to read it out loud. And if you want to dedicate it to your own spouse, you can. If not, share it with someone else.

1:07:49Ben Mandelker: So it's just another.

1:07:50Ronnie Karam: Rila knows what's coming. She's like, I'm not really a game person. Yeah, we know. Because basically this game is, okay, whose husband is the biggest cheating piece of shit? Okay. Anyone want to say Brian? Anyone want to say Brian? Okay. That's basically what this is. Every question is designed to be Brian. And Rila knows it. She's like, oh, God, here we go.

1:08:14Ben Mandelker: Yeah, exactly. So Joellen's the first one. He goes, who is the most likely to have a safe word? And Gary is like, Joellen is pineapple.

1:08:29Ben Mandelker: Rosie goes, no. Yeah, it's definitely you. Like, I just say, ow, stop.

1:08:34Ronnie Karam: Which is also really weird because pineapple, you know, Joellen, the running joke on this show is that Joellen and her husband are swingers. And pineapple is like the national sign for swingers, right?

1:08:48Ben Mandelker: Yep, yep, yep. So it's like a... It's like they're saying it, but not really saying it. Like a swinging community itself. It's all coming together. So Ashley says... Okay, my question is... Wait, they're all getting angry together? So my question is, what is the quality of someone in this group that you wish you had? I'm going to say two people. I would love to command a room with confidence like, Liz, I'm so sorry. Did that offend you? And then I would love to have the friendliness of Joellen. Yes. When I look at Joellen, I think, God, look at that super friendly person over there.

1:09:31Ronnie Karam: Okay. What was your favorite memory or experience from the summer? Oh, masquerade dinner for me. That was great. Ashley didn't even have a mouth that could move. I loved it. And we all opened up about something that we don't ever talk about. And Jerry's like, what'd you talk about? And Kelsey's like, don't you wish you were there? Okay, what's something you never told this group but probably should? And Brian starts coughing. They just, every question is for Brian. It's so funny. And Jerry's like, definitely not a question for me. Me neither, because I have a group of everything. So who am I going to direct this question to?

1:10:06Ronnie Karam: And every one of them in their compassion is like, Brian. Brian.

1:10:10Ben Mandelker: Brian.

1:10:11Ronnie Karam: Brian. This one has to be Brian.

1:10:13Ben Mandelker: I think Jerry would have been a good candidate also because we are very suspicious of why that boat was gone for three weeks on a year. Yes. And the relationship with Dino. So then Liz is like, everyone wants me to say Brian, but I'm going to say Jared. Oh, great. So Jared is on the hot seat. He goes, well, here. Okay. Here's something. my answer is Rhode Island based I truly love my home state I was born and raised in Warwick and you know my dad worked at the ACI my mom worked in restaurants all throughout Rhode Island I truly love this place they're all like boring Liz has a kazoo and she's like

1:10:55Ronnie Karam: Liz blowing on that kazoo while Jared is going on and on about Rhode Island was hilarious

1:11:02Ben Mandelker: so he really

1:11:03Ronnie Karam: just keeps going and going and going. And Alicia's like, oh, God, okay, what's a moment you appreciated with someone in this group and why? Okay, I have a few. One with Liz. We went to a castle in a Rolls Royce. That was like a dream. It was a fantasy. And then one would be Rosie, because I told her off, and she accepted it, and she understood where I came from. And we see the flashback to, welcome to Rhode Island, bitch. That's how we roll.

1:11:25Ben Mandelker: And then two seconds later, I love you. I love you. I love you. By the way, I just want to acknowledge I'm going to hold some space for the fact that Jared and Kelsey bonded because he worked at Carrabba's and she worked at Smokey Bones. He's like, we bonded over that. I was like, okay, God bless. Those are not even close to being similar. I don't know what Smokey Bones is, but I love that that's all Jared has to offer. Well, I did work at a Carrabba's with someone and that bonded me for life. Because someone worked nearby. Okay, so now, okay, Rula's. Rula's turn. She goes, oh, God. Okay, I'm passing this along.

1:12:03Ben Mandelker: Okay, okay, okay. I'm going to read it. I'm going to read it. Okay, here it goes. What's the most embarrassing thing your partner has done in public? And Alicia goes, that's God. That's God who asked that. That's God. God, God's being messy. Kelsey goes, well, you don't always have to ask your spouse. And if you want to ask someone else, you can ask someone who worked in Carrabba's with you. She's like, okay, I'm going to give it to Gary. so Gary what's the most embarrassing thing that Joanna's ever done in public

1:12:31Ronnie Karam: and he's like she doesn't really embarrass herself a lot she's like oh right come on little do you know I'm quite embarrassing hand me a video camera am I right

1:12:41Ben Mandelker: hello this is Joellen's mother uh can we rephrase the question to the most embarrassing thing your daughter ever did to you grow tits boobs so Kelsey is like okay I have a question

1:12:55Ronnie Karam: is there's one person in the group that'll stab you in the back and smile to your face like daggers they're throwing daggers at each other and rosie's like don't quite don't be shocked when it's me and alicia's like yeah that could be deep um so everybody just takes a big gulp

1:13:12Ben Mandelker: and they give it to rula yeah but rula has a nice answer she says you know earlier this summer i would have said it's joe allen but you know what we had a really good chat and everything's good now and she says like i think the future of this group will be okay because i don't know how joellen and i will be but i care for everyone else and i think we just need to get past my story and alicia is like i love that you said that because i hope you know that we all have your back we are there and rila's like yeah i don't think anybody here would fit that mold so they sort of have this nice like end of the game where it's like you know what we've all settled our issues what are under all the bridges all the feuds are settled everyone's in a good place and everything is happy i mean

1:13:54Ronnie Karam: that's nice but you guys this is the season finale and you've got a cheater here so you're kind of dropping the ball so brian jumps in like brian has really just been given the biggest pass on earth so he jumps in himself he's like listen we gotta look to the future i mean i'm not proud of everything i did everything that happened but i am proud of this woman and how she handles things And actually, I should thank all of you Because you guys made us the most popular couple So thank you Really? With all they let you get away from Now you're going to like poke at them For giving you shit all summer, sir

1:14:32Ben Mandelker: Yeah, seriously So Rola starts to cry She's like, no, it's been an amazing summer for us We had ups and downs and deathbeds And oh no, cry, cry, cry, cry So Alicia's like Yeah, honey, listen Okay, does anyone have an emergency week thing? Someone call up Sandy Duncan. We need a crack after her real quickly. Look, no one's life is perfect. Okay, Joellen, tell her. Tell her no one's life is perfect. Okay, tell her, Joellen. Joellen, you got a shitty life. Tell her that your life is shitty too. Come on.

1:15:00Ronnie Karam: Yeah, and the rule is trying to make it okay, but Alicia just keeps going like, No, like we all got your back. Even Joellen, she hates you, but she got your back when she got all those cheating videos. Tell her, Joellen. She's like, hold on. Okay, we already got a conversation. Yeah, like we have your back. Like, your husband was sticking his dick and everything. Like, we got your back. We got your back. We're just glad it's okay. They're like, oh, my God, Alicia.

1:15:22Ben Mandelker: Tell her, tell her, tell her, tell her you had her back, Joellen. Do it. Tell her you're not trying to manipulate her. Joellen's like, look, it was nice. We had a nice private conversation. We're not going back to it. Everything's okay. Okay, please stop. Please stop trying to drag me back into it, okay? And so Rosie's like, Rosie's like, no, it's not, you know, it's his fault, Joellen. I just want you to know, like, it's actually like, it's not actually your fault. Like, it's weird that it's like, oh, we're blaming Joellen because it's not the mistress's fault. And it's not your fault. The problem is sitting right next to me.

1:15:52Ben Mandelker: And Rosie's just saying this right next to Brian. It's hilarious.

1:15:56Ronnie Karam: And Brian goes, you know, I love you and I can't believe how strong you are and how you put your ego aside. And she's like, my ego. He goes, well, OK, not your ego, but like, I don't know, your pride, you know, like how you just refuse to have any. for the good of our family. That's sweet. This guy.

1:16:18Ben Mandelker: I'm not sure we're listening to Nilo flat out and not wanting to discuss it. It's not been going on so long. I don't think this is ground for divorce for Rulo, though. Unfortunately, the easy road is to point the thing and blame everyone else but the perpetrator.

1:16:33Ronnie Karam: Yeah, so Alicia's like, okay, then it's dead. It's dead. Let's put it in the ocean. It's drowned. It's drowned.

1:16:39Ben Mandelker: We drowned it. It's like, geez. It's drowned in the ocean. and it's around and washed up, unlike the people that fell off of Jerry's boat.

1:16:47Ronnie Karam: So Kelsey gives like a wrap-up speech. She's like, I just want to say before we end the night, you know, I just wanted to come here for this conversation because we've been on separate pages. And Alicia goes, let's not ever be at a separate page again. It's terrible. Yeah.

1:17:03Ben Mandelker: And now we get like end of season wrap-ups. Currently 5 ,000 square feet, Rosie's house remains under construction, as does her friendship with Kelsey. And then Rosie has no plans to have children still. And then we go to, then we see Joellen and her mom continue to work on their relationship. And we see Joellen and her mom making lasagna together. So all is well because the lasagna is being made. And then, but Joellen and Rula have agreed to let bygones be bygones, although Joellen continues to communicate with the mistress.

1:17:37Ronnie Karam: And Liz and Dolores have menopause gummies coming out, guys. Kelsey and Bill's relationship grows, as do the bills in Kelsey's life. Now that her ex is no longer paying. She's even learning how to write a check. And then we show her literally having to learn. Wait, how do you spell a thousand?

1:17:56Ben Mandelker: She's literally learning how to write a check. She's like, wait. He's like, put a dot there. There's a dot. Have you heard of a decimal point before? This is actually something you should know about. She's like, I'm a comma. and then we have this this moment this baby moment with ashley where ashley and jared are singing to their baby happy birthday like really quietly and calmly and they put this little cake in front of the baby it's like happy birthday to the baby just looks at the cake it's starts to

1:18:27Ronnie Karam: shove the cake off its little table yeah done done done so then ashley is booking all her deals and we get um alicia being like oh my god i gotta tell you guys i love you for different reasons they go through all this stuff but it's like everything's happy one month later local podiatrist and the husband of a real housewives of rhode island tv show participant plead not guilty to

1:18:53Ben Mandelker: a misdemeanor domestic violence charge yeah this is this is crazy so basically like they then they all gathered each other's homes and it's like what's gonna happen what's gonna happen you know and of course ruler's like well you know he put the tracker on because he doesn't you know he just wants to see where i am and like wants to make sure like this is what's going on but she tells ruler tells the story that she started to suspect that she was being tracked and um just from things that he was saying like comments he was saying and she's like oh he knows like a little bit too much and so then she basically went to the to mercedes and was like can you check if there's a tracker and mercedes says we can't touch it you have to go to the cops so she went to the cops and the cops found the tracker on the car yeah it was bmw but yeah

1:19:51Ronnie Karam: they found a tracker on the car and that was she's like it wasn't domestic violence it was just considered domestic violence because it's stalking poor brian and they're like rula what the fuck did you ask him why did he say he's doing this and she goes well he says that he did it because he wanted to know when i'm getting near so basically he put a tracker on her car so he he could do fuck around and he would know when she's on the way home i mean this guy is such a piece of shit and they're like well rula what are you gonna do and she's like i don't know don't don't and And that's a cliffhanger, but we know what she does.

1:20:26Ronnie Karam: Yeah, she's going to double down, which is crazy.

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