#3417 In the City S1E5: Branded and Disbanded

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1:07Ben Mandelker: Let's look at you. Watch what crappens, watch what crappens, who cares what happens when there's so much that crappens?

1:17Ronnie Karam: Well, hello and welcome to Watch What Crappens. I'm Ronnie, that's Ben over there. Hello, Ben. Hi, how's it going?

1:25Ben Mandelker: Good, what's going on with you? um you know just just it's it's hump day it's hump day in america and oddly enough the entire globe it's crazy and um i'm just getting through it i'm happy to know i did not hump him until

1:41Ronnie Karam: february before that it was just pure pure sweet love okay guys welcome to in the city we just did a really long summer house aftermath recap so go check it out um but now we get more kyle and man i can't wait guys if you want this on video go to patreon.com slash watch what crappens it's also where you get our bonus episodes and our ad free listening also a discord server to hang out with each other and our free weekly blog recap newsletter thing that i write um go get it also check out ben's sub stack nbd fancy it's really good this month um it's a good cookbook review I don't want to fuck up her name What's her name?

2:24Ronnie Karam: Kalou Kalou Henry Sorry I'm glad I asked you this Because I was about to fuck up her name A review of the Kalou Henry cookbook So go check it out What else do you want to talk about today? I want to talk about

2:39Ben Mandelker: In the city Andrea Andrea and Lexi are expecting a baby Oh baby Lexi That makes it We now have three preggers people on the cast we have Yvonne, Lexi, and Danielle. So we'll see. I'm sure someone else will pop up pregnant next. Whitney will be next. I'm going to say that right now.

3:01Ronnie Karam: Yeah, a lot of people pregs.

3:03Ben Mandelker: Yeah, yeah. What could go wrong? We're seeing what happy content that's been making on The Valley.

3:12Ronnie Karam: The Valley. I just finished watching The Valley. It's misery. It's just pure. i mean just fucking hobble me already for something that i wrote it is like misery oh my god

3:26Ben Mandelker: i can't wait i don't know why i'm liking the valley so much it is really so miserable this season i'm enjoying it so much oh it's just pure fucking pain i can't but or an mcl postpartum my god the whole the whole thing divorces it's just it's one thing after another

3:43Ronnie Karam: Oh, yeah. Well, that's tomorrow. Today is, you know, I don't know if you've heard of a little company called Loverboy. But it's a company, and they sell drinks. Get out. And, guys, I hope that you support Loverboy. Okay? Please, no matter what you take from today's recap, please support Loverboy. All right. Loverboy Day on In the City. We need to promote Loverboy. let's get a trolley drive around with it i want to push the trolley off the road i want to push it stick your fucking drink okay get rid of it i'm sick of it i've had it

4:22Ben Mandelker: so we as everyone's doing stuff around the city um kyle is walking rider and reese which could sound like two gay porn stars but they're actually his dogs uh and then amanda is right doesn't it feel like there's got i think there's like i'm actually there's got a porn star i'm sure there was someone named reese rider or rider reese i guarantee

4:43Ronnie Karam: reese rider gay porn videos hold on i see i need reese riders gay porn videos is this real okay i'm pulling up pornhub if something autoplay oh i'm in texas so i have to do a id check reese rider

5:00Ben Mandelker: i don't know but uh it just it's just you just it's just it's too gay porn coded um And Reese Rider is a gay porn star? That is hilarious. It has to be. It has to be. Well, there was a porn star named Reese. Wasn't there a porn star named Reese Rideout?

5:19Ronnie Karam: Back in like the 2000s. There's Chloe Reese Rider. And there's Reese Rider, gay porn star. So there you go. He's on Boyfriend TV. In case anybody wants to know. Just look to that. There you go. So there's a Reese Rideout and a Reese Rider.

5:34Ben Mandelker: Wow. that's pretty funny and they're both also encapsulated by kyle's dogs then we go to midtown where amanda is um she's trying on uh i guess testing out a prototype for her swimwear that we've been waiting to see for all this time and she has named it um the sierra top so you need some rebranding probably like should we just like keep the title the sierra top

6:01Ronnie Karam: I mean, it's just, it's the same fit. We're just adding different details, like a different man on its arm. You know, we're gone. It's going to just cut the man off the arm, put it on my arm, and let's just refit the whole thing.

6:16Ben Mandelker: So is, like, Jacqueline just out of work? Is she just too busy? Does she have too many gigs? Because last I checked, there's a fit model that needs to be fitted. Okay, why is Amanda doing this? This should be a, this is Jacqueline's comeback scene.

6:28Ronnie Karam: yeah and amanda goes yeah i'll have to find new friends to make my to name my pieces after yeah you really you really will

6:41Ben Mandelker: that's please that's yeah it's rough um now union square lindsey is out and about with gemma and she's like are you ready we're gonna go ride a bike but you're not gonna really ride it you're gonna like pedal like that flintstones you know gemma's like i don't even know what you're talking about the Flintstones yeah fuck out of here I just mastered putting the little rings on the pegs

7:04Ronnie Karam: okay mom don't give me a bicycle yeah and it's an influencing event where Lindsay is you know a baby a mommy influencer now so Gemma's out there literally peddling she's out there peddling shit already on Instagram good for her you know I've always said you should only have babies if you're willing to put them to work. And here it is. I'd love to see it in action.

7:31Ben Mandelker: Lindsay, she puts Gemma on this little bike, and there's a photo shoot, and she's like, I'm hired by this brand to promote the launch of a new brand by a little baby bike, a little influencer. And okay, I know you guys love to put on my lower third, influencer. And they put influencer under Lindsay's name. She's like, I'm so much more than that. I'm an influencer. I'm a MILF. I'm Gemma's mom. I do more than just like one thing.

7:59Ronnie Karam: Oh, Lindsay's faux humility. You know, remember when she wanted to be an influencer so bad and Paige and them were like, uh-uh. I'm not an influencer. She's like, yep, I can be. That was like an actual thing. And now she's like, oh, why don't you just call me an influencer? I'm also a MILF.

8:16Ben Mandelker: Well, I guess if Jessica Tandy were alive, she'd need someone to tell her what to buy. So sure, go for it, Lindsay.

8:23Ronnie Karam: You know, people do often forget to take their Activia.

8:30Ronnie Karam: I was really worried for the baby on this bike. I was like, babies shouldn't be on bikes. Am I the only one? It's like, no, bikes are not for babies. Now, this is like a leaning bike where you put the baby on the thing and they're kind of leaning and learning to walk, which I get. But I was like, oh, no, no, no, no. I don't want to see any kids in the crosswalk on these goddamn bikes. I see it coming. Just little babies coming out everywhere on their fucking bikes.

8:55Ben Mandelker: As soon as it can be like those baby lime scooters or baby bird scooters. Just babies on those little scooters just zooming around. But you know what I do love? I'm just passing you.

9:04Ronnie Karam: You're like, that is dangerous. You're going to break your neck.

9:07Ben Mandelker: I do love when parents put their babies in those flying saucer things. You know, it's like this big circle around the baby and the baby just like walks like a zombie. Those are my favorite. The jumpy things? And they just walk and it's like. oh the walk they're like little yeah like little saturn planets roaming around that's yeah i like those two those are great yeah i really like those two but those aren't dangerous because

9:30Ronnie Karam: they can't fall off that thing you know they've got a whole circle around them and probably some mac and cheese you know to fledge or whatever the hell's on there they just are so funny when

9:41Ben Mandelker: babies come around the corner with those things on it's like seeing a hamster in a hamster ball I love those too

9:46Ronnie Karam: I love hamster balls

9:48Ben Mandelker: except when the hamsters inevitably pee and poop in the ball

9:51Ronnie Karam: oh yeah that's pretty gross so okay Lindsay is not only doing an influencer event for a baby she's also made her friends come and called it brunch that's so rude she's like alright get it all done in one scene alright we're going to brunch enjoy it

10:14Ben Mandelker: Yvonne shows up And she's like oh Oh this is This is brunch He's like wow why are you so dressed up And Georgina goes well I told her we were having brunch Yvonne's like so there's no mimosa

10:30Ronnie Karam: So yeah I thought we were going to like have some kind of fun Thing I mean I guess this is fun And Georgina's like there's some popcorn and carrot sticks Over there

10:39Ben Mandelker: I would Throw Georgina out the window So Yvonne's like, oh, this is different. Okay. And Georgina's like, well, welcome to what your Saturdays will look like. Yvonne's like, no, well, okay. Well, me and Nick, we went out to dinner, and then the wine was flowing. And yeah. So yeah, I need a snack right now. So someone help me out.

11:01Ronnie Karam: Georgina's like, oh, really? Well, wait until you have a baby, because you're going to have to be a parent even when you're hungover when you have a baby. Trust me. That is something else. Today, I caught my son trying to eat his poop, pull it out of his ears, shove it on a cat, start the cat on fire, twirl the cat around, throw it down the stairs, and then drive a car. I mean, being a mother this day and age is just crazy.

11:24Ben Mandelker: She literally says that she was hungover yesterday, and her son wanted to put his poopy diaper back on. And she's like, well, he didn't want the clean one. She's like, well, I'm too hungover to argue with you right now. So she took chocolate and she smeared chocolate on the diaper and put it on her son. She goes, I'm thinking to myself, am I teaching him it's okay to wear poop all day? And then I decided that's a problem for next week.

11:53Ronnie Karam: I mean, girl, you're teaching him that poop probably tastes good.

11:58Ben Mandelker: Yeah, that's actually the worst problem.

12:00Ronnie Karam: Yeah. So back to present Everyone's watching Kids ride Oh they're watching her kid Georgina's kid Robert ride around on the bike And he's in all green Like she said he's obsessed with green I cannot get this kid to stop wearing green Green shoes, green pants, green shirt Ground poop

12:21Ben Mandelker: He's really into them He is all in green You know So she says Oh I Yvonne says, well, I feel like that's good parenting You know, like, we're putting it all green I mean, even though I'm not a parent But, you know, that might change soon Because Nick agreed that we can start trying to be parents And Lindsay's like, let's fucking go! Yes! So, basically We see a flashback Sorry, I'm getting my water I just looked up in your Toddler-coded Hyperjug It's green, you said green

12:58Ronnie Karam: I was like, I need something green. I'm going to drink out of my hydro jug.

13:01Ben Mandelker: I was like, Ronnie does not like that they're starting to start for a baby.

13:07Ronnie Karam: Just don't put it on a bike.

13:09Ben Mandelker: Like, I don't like, I have nothing to say about it. No, I saw you were drinking. So basically, Yvonne's like, so are you ready to start trying? And Nick is like, yeah. Like, okay, good luck to you guys.

13:24Ronnie Karam: Good luck. Sounds great. He's like, I'm so excited. let's fucking go so uh robert's crying georgina picks him up she's like oh are they making fun

13:33Ben Mandelker: of you for the green i'm telling you nightmare everyone uh now we see uh we we see footage from around the city and then we just hear someone go watch the fuck out i was like is sue simmons walking by this this camera crew um but uh it's kenny kenny is in gothenberger and he's meeting up with kyle everyone loves kenny gosh when he shows up on screen it's just like a ray of sunshine

14:00Ronnie Karam: here he is here's kenny so um kyle's like i ordered you a california dreamin

14:09Ben Mandelker: oh well and a white wine and he's like okay i don't know did you get me like an album or something he's like well i just came from the dentist so i gotta watch my sauces which is funny because i too everyone just came from the dentists but i do not have to watch my sauces so they cheers and Kenny's like so I just want to understand like we had a conversation that day and I said a lot of phenomenal things about Whitney like she's boring but kind of a fun boring but not that fun but like kind of boring boring but like I don't know it's like fun to look at her but she's boring and dull and like I don't know if I even like her or love her and she brought little wooden balls into my place but like whatever she has nice hair I guess so I mean I don't know like why did she leave with any of that

14:48Ronnie Karam: stuff yeah I was it was you know I just remember from that day I left thinking, who is Spark overall? I'm like, why am I glad that Sparks and Recreation was canceled? I don't know. I just left thinking there's no Spark. No Spark. Really, it's just that.

15:06Ben Mandelker: Spark overall. Oh, man. Not this week. Not during this week of tough sitcom. 80s sitcom news. Did you hear the mom on Elf died? Is that true?

15:22Ronnie Karam: it's true why are you fucking with me why are you telling me people died in the middle of recaps

15:27Ben Mandelker: i'm sorry yeah right before this the little girl from the ring died too for fuck's sake it's a tough week jeez i'm sorry all right well i think you have to know these things

15:39Ronnie Karam: you have to do me in the middle of an in the city recap to recap is hard enough okay we just talked about kyle and amanda's breakup again for two hours and now you're bringing me someone who

15:51Ben Mandelker: probably knew park overall passing away they probably did some nbc promos together i'm sure that park overall is very sad yeah and i think we have to pay tribute to the the mom on elf

16:04Ronnie Karam: right frank oh she was great yeah all right so i'm sorry cats cats like how dare you um so uh kenny's like okay so the only takeaway was kenny said there's no spark I mean what the hell and then I get everybody attacking me we go out with all their friends and they're attacking me they're Kenny I mean first you've got Andrea screaming Andrea screaming at me no one yelled at you you fucking drama queen so delicate you are the one who went in pissed off at everybody stop nobody yelled at you yeah

16:39Ben Mandelker: and then he's like then Georgina was saying something and you see Georgina saying like stop with the fucking spark and then Nick and Nick is like, spark about his own girlfriend. And then I went over to get a drink and guess what was there? It was a sparklets water dispenser. I mean, I've had enough of it from everyone.

16:55Ronnie Karam: They're all coming at me. They were all closing in. And Carl's like, whoa, that's a big misunderstanding. When I mentioned the spark coming, you know, they were like, what do you mean no spark? And I was like, no, no, he doesn't mean no spark, not no spark. It's just like, I was trying to explain to him, it's like, you know, when you pick up a pen, you're like, this is useful, but like i don't want to fuck it it's like that kind of thing

17:20Ben Mandelker: yeah i just said like there was like he was questioning if there was a spark like maybe there was no spark at all or thought like wow i don't know do i want to spend the rest of my life with this very bland person i don't know your words not mine he's like i never said that it's like you know what like future commitment long term like is this gonna work is this gonna work out kind of spark like are we gonna get married kind of spark that's i was wondering am I gonna even enjoy my first conversation with her like I still haven't turned the corner about having fun in her presence kind of spark that's it

17:50Ronnie Karam: yeah he's like yeah I mean it's just like do I want to marry her like am I excited about marriage with this person yeah that's still fucking offensive Whitney is probably and of course we know Whitney's just like see totally into me just explained it perfectly who doesn't have a spark with a person who just taught America how to toast a piece of toast. It's time for a commercial. It's time for a Crappens commercial. My mom is the queen of the bargain find. I mean, you can't even compliment the woman without finding out how much something costs. I was like, mom, I really love your new dress. She's like, it was$5.

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21:26Ronnie Karam: is that there's really good yeah yeah i'm so sorry about that yeah i get it amanda sparkless god

21:33Ben Mandelker: she alone in the spark we're like roommates that aggravate each other right now like dude amanda went from like let me take a month or two off and find a month month apartment to like she just signed a lease and kenny's like yeah is she moving into my place please not another woman he's like no no no i found her own place it's a one-year lease so kyle's like and a real spark

21:52Ronnie Karam: crystal over there yeah our problems we don't have a spark we're just like roommates we aggravate each other you know like she went from like hey maybe let's take a month or two off or i'll find a month-to-month apartment and she just signed the lease it's a year long what the hell yeah i mean

22:09Ben Mandelker: we're creating separation we're creating space she's moving out but we're not splitting up some people scratch their heads like what do you mean what does difference for me it's very clear we're just going to be in separate spaces and not talk to each other and basically act like single people but we won't be splitting up it's something clear as pie yeah duh i'm still

22:28Ronnie Karam: processing it basically and kenny's like whoa straight to a year lease that sounds wow sorry what i should ask whitney if she wants to do that are you interested in signing a one

22:43Ben Mandelker: lease outside of my apartment

22:46Ronnie Karam: I'm 43 I don't fucking believe it, like here I am 10 year relationship, we're not ground zero, I mean it basically feels like

22:53Ben Mandelker: it, I mean I think square one is what you're looking for but that's okay yeah, ground zero is something else so then Kenny is like well I just moved in with a girl that I've got unbelievable spark with America but I think that of course like you know the course of 6 months 12 months, you can be in a significantly happier place it doesn't matter how old you are it matters how you if you're genuinely happy like i am with my full of spark girlfriend whitney are you convinced yeah i mean look you

23:25Ronnie Karam: need to really find yourself outside of amanda you know i mean obviously you've got a personality you've got a persona look at that i mean this relationship's not the end of it all look at you look at you you've got a reputation as a over-the-hill alcoholic dj go for it

23:44Ben Mandelker: so now we go to fidey financial district we're at clinton hall and um it's one of those goofy places with like big jenga and big connect four etc so danielle and owen and nick and and and what's her face uh what's next yvonne is yvonne yeah i'm still working on the name how dare you It's literally written down on the page. How dare you? They're getting ready to play. I'm just trying to memorize the entire episode. I was like, I memorized almost every line of The End of the City last night. Damn it. I've watched it five times just to get every detail. So, you know, I actually, Yvonne, like I love Yvonne, but for some reason I cannot remember her name.

24:29Ben Mandelker: And she's like one of my favorite newbies.

24:31Ronnie Karam: Just because she seems like a great thing. I'm having that problem on Love Island, actually. of all that i've watched i mean it's on every day for like an hour and a half and i've watched every episode and i'm like whenever you tell me about someone you're like so and so said this i'm

24:43Ben Mandelker: like who who the fuck is that i don't know what it is um they are but for those wondering they are still opening up and reading letters on love island five hours later oh my god jesus christ

24:57Ronnie Karam: from the moment some of those people have written in their entire life i'm surprised it wasn't just like little stick figure pictures like cave drawings you know i know oh my god when you

25:08Ben Mandelker: first walked into the villa you were so hot i thought damn i like you okay um our relationship

25:16Ronnie Karam: has come so it's been a week it has been a week okay so anyway we're here with speaking of it's been a week we're here with danielle's relationship with oh and so yvonne and danielle are getting along and they're like uh don't you think this might be a problem yvonne that you're hanging out with someone lindsey hates and she's like oh well you know i've never had beef with danielle she was like one of lindsey's friends so i've always been nice to her and i'm always team lindsey but i mean lindsey seems to have moved past everything so you know and nick really likes

25:46Ben Mandelker: owen so why not oh you'll see danger you'll see your alert when she when they started the season like we're best friends and we've been best friends for 15 years i was like this friendship is over and now we see here it is exciting incident right now so they are hanging out having dinner or eating food and Nick is asking how things are with Lindsay and Danielle says you know I think it's you know I think they're good but like we're baby stepping into the future and I hope that we can continue that sort of path and try to repair you know what was damaged I'm sorry I just want to interrupt that we no longer do baby steps we do baby reps with the bicycles

26:28Ronnie Karam: we are doing baby trikes baby triking only baby and she's like you know I was just like trying to repair what was damaged and Nick's like so you guys are good I'm sorry you can hear me right is my face moving no Nick it's still not moving damn it okay go ahead

26:48Ben Mandelker: carry on so then it's like they're saying we just anyway they're saying everything's good and no one's like this is great knows. Nick's like, okay, cool. Well, I guess, you know what we should do? We should all go to Mexico together, because I heard that that's what they said on the Valley. So I think we're supposed to do the same thing, right? They got some chairs there I can fix.

27:08Ronnie Karam: Let's go to Mexico together, and all will bring our newborns. So they're like, yeah, let's go. And Nick goes, oh, yeah, that's the only country we're actually married. And we see a flashback of them telling people, no, they're not really married, not New York, never filed the paperwork. It's a Bravo thing. Do people really do this all the time? Just not file their paperwork? So weird. I think so.

27:31Ben Mandelker: I think so. That happened to a friend of mine that her new husband didn't file the paperwork. And then about two months later, he left her. So I think he had that plan all along, if you ask me. So now anytime there's like, oops, forgot to file the paperwork. I'm like, this person does not want to deal with divorce. So they're just going to go through this because they got in too deep with the wedding. They don't want to disappoint their family and friends. they're gonna give it eight weeks and they're out of there oh yeah but in this case it actually

28:01Ronnie Karam: worked out shit if i get married i want a sticker like you get one when you vote why wouldn't you get one when you're married i need like an official shit from the government it's like you did this ronnie did it put it on the bumper sticker no just married and it's official from

28:17Ben Mandelker: the government um yeah so they uh anyway the point they actually had like a big big ass wedding in Mexico. We see footage of it. There was fireworks and everything. And then Nick is like, but after we got back from our honeymoon, you know, life resumed. You know, I saw a wasili chair. I was like, I've got to fix it. So it's like, whenever we schedule it, there are just some big things to work on. I mean, some event or whatever just got a little away from us.

28:43Ronnie Karam: Yeah, but they're going to City Hall next week, guys. So don't worry about it. And Yvonne's like, yeah, because I guess relationship has no meaning unless you go to court, right? Listen, it doesn't matter for marriage. It matters for divorce, though. And that's a really important step to consider in your marriage process.

29:00Ben Mandelker: That's a great transition into Danielle and Owen's issues, which is that his divorce is not finalized yet. It's still with the lawyers. The wife is in New York, which makes it easier. And Yvonne's like, have you guys ever had any close encounters? He's like, what's with aliens? I mean, no, but I did see disclosure date. No, I'm talking about your ex. And Danielle's like, no, we haven't. But at the same time, people break up. And they go through divorces. And unfortunately, it's not uncommon that people do this. It's just like sometimes I think that it's made to be so much worse by people. Like, you know, sometimes there are just people out there that will say things like, Are you with a married man right now?

29:39Cut to Danielle's.

29:41Ronnie Karam: The article. Danielle's a homewrecker. And she's like, I mean, like, people are, like, talking shit. Like, you're a homewrecker and all this stuff. And, like, I can't help but cry. because like just for the first time I'm just like so happy and content in my life you know and like I've never been married but I've been really happy with a married man and shouldn't that count for something

30:03Ben Mandelker: so she's tearing up and Yvonne's like I'll give you my napkin but it's really dirty unless you want ketchup in your eyeballs she's like no it's okay

30:12Ronnie Karam: maybe I'll just take another shot and so Yvonne's like you're not doing anything wrong it's not like you met him when he was still with somebody right she's like I mean, it's just harmful when those words are like that on the internet.

30:28Ben Mandelker: And Nick's like, well, even if you know it's bullshit, it still has no effect on you, right? I mean, it still has an effect on you, right? And Owen's like, yes, of course. So Daniel's like, it just sucks. I want to be celebrating this. And Owen's like, okay, cool. So now we go to NoHo, and Whitney and Kenny are on a run, and she hates it. She's like, um, I don't want to do this again. I don't like running in traffic. I'm going to get hit. look I'm very hittable by a car please do I have to do this anymore

30:53Ronnie Karam: this is also a valley storyline it's very reminiscent of Michelle dating that guy who broke up with her because she didn't like to work out enough and Whitney's really trying she's like okay I'll go winning I really hate this and he's like come on come on she's like this was a bad idea oh my god you're not gonna get me to run again this is miserable I don't even remember the last time I ran

31:17Ben Mandelker: so they're running and he doesn't care he doesn't give a shit like she is there to fit into his life and he is not there to accommodate her so yeah uh so he's like okay okay hey by the way this pi is supposed to call me i was like what so he has uh hired a private investigator because he now wants to track down his dad because he's on a tv show now it's just why like i want to feel for

31:45Ronnie Karam: somebody looking for their dad but you do it like the second week of shooting your reality show come on i don't yeah not buying it so um he's saying that yeah it's important to find his uh dad after his mom passed and he's had this feeling like he needs to track down his dad and so um uh yeah he calls a private investigator so he's like okay you came highly recommended in terms of someone that could help me with my search to find my father i don't even know if he's still alive and the guy's like okay well i can analyze that and let you know what the probability would be what does that mean i'm giving you his name can you find the man or not

32:25Ben Mandelker: what is the probability i know so he talks about how like um he used to go visit his dad every summer in london which is kind of cool that his dad is british i like that um but he'd go visit his dad in london uh and then he was like 13 or 14 years old and he would just he'd spend like weeks there and he just he just kenny had resentment that his dad had a new family and everything and he's just like why am i doing this and his mom was like you don't have to go anymore so he stopped going but then he also fell out of contact with his dad and so he hasn't seen his dad

32:59Ronnie Karam: for 25 years yeah um and so he has a lot of drama about this i mean it's it's just it's just the timing i guess for me so then uh the pi is like okay well okay i can tell you right now for 500 there's about a 30 chance you've got a dad well no actually i i have a dad but i just want you to find my all right at 35 35 all right check clear to call you in two weeks all right hey uh

33:33Ben Mandelker: this is a private investigator dan rubick yeah of the cube that was me so um i did locate your half-brother's son, and he says that his lizard is cute. So, if you wanted a lizard update, there's that. Also, I do have some information about your dad. So, his name is Larry Martin. Did you think that, were you playing a joke on me, Larry Martin? You think I could just find somebody in Larry Martin? He has two first names. What is wrong with you? I'm a PI, but I'm not a genie.

34:04Ronnie Karam: I have found about 900 Larry Martins, but I've only found three race write-outs. Two of them made me come.

34:14probably 500 more dollars thank you you really now okay we i do but the good news is we found

34:20Ben Mandelker: your father turns out he had a popular sitcom in the 90s and he had a movie franchise with will smith of all people congratulations your father is a celebrity he's like my dad is not martin lawrence his name is larry martin oh i'll be right back so he does not know shenanigans he

34:37Ronnie Karam: does not. What about the guy from upstairs?

34:41Ben Mandelker: Really funny. Really funny stuff. Did you know that the bad guy from White Lotus was actually a side character on your dad's show? That's not my dad. That's not my dad.

34:55Ronnie Karam: Larry! Nope, that's not my dad.

34:57Ben Mandelker: Well, these results are very disappointing and I only have one thing to say. Damn, Gina. Damn.

35:05Ronnie Karam: Did your father have Did he have a brother named Moe? No. Did he have a brother named Curly? No. Damn it.

35:15Ben Mandelker: Thought I found him. Wait a second. We got a ping. We found your dad. Okay, this one's for real. Your dad. Okay. You said he was British. He is British. He's a gay man living in West Hollywood who's into design. It's like, it's not Martin Lawrence Ballard. Oh.

35:33Ronnie Karam: Yeah, that did seem like a far-fetched one.

35:35Ben Mandelker: now that you say it it doesn't quite make sense laughter laughter

35:44Ronnie Karam: okay so he's like alright well I searched England and the US it should move pretty quickly okay a few days we'll have some results for you and it is 100 % ice cream DNA test and this ice cream is delicious

36:05Ben Mandelker: tell you that mushy pea flavored that's what you're guessing what can i say if anyone's like

36:11Ronnie Karam: isn't this over i really thought it was over that's why but i kept scrolling and the scene's still going so um whitney's like well i mean i don't know it sounds like he's alive but i guess we still don't really know and he's like well maybe he's just being optimistic she's like it's unclear but like if he hasn't found him specifically maybe he doesn't know that's usually what happens

36:34Ben Mandelker: when someone doesn't find something specifically.

36:39Ben Mandelker: If he doesn't have the answers, then maybe he doesn't know. So we go back to the financial district and there is a trolley car there and Kyle is loading up with Loverboy stuff and there's this guy named Daniel who is driving the trolley. Imagine if that was Larry Martin himself.

37:00Ronnie Karam: Larry Martin. Larry Martin's like, Hey, Larry Martin here. Did you know that ice cream has DNA? A. B. I just wanted to tell you, trolleys are even more popular than Loverboy. Can we just give it up now?

37:14Ben Mandelker: Thanks. Hold on a second, everyone. I keep getting this phone call from what says the Rubik's Cube Corporation. I don't know what that even means. Busy.

37:25Ronnie Karam: So it's a brand appreciation day. Kyle is going to go literally door to door to try and sell Loverboy to bars. yeah and he's like hey hey you're a guy driving the trolley what's your name oh daniel hey you heard a lover boy he's like nah i can't say i've heard a lover boy i don't know what it is

37:47Ben Mandelker: so it's like yeah we're just representing the work hard play hard uh lifestyle right so uh then amanda comes on i mean amanda's actually already on the on the trolley and she's dealing with balloons that are giving her hair lots of static cling which felt like a nice moment of universe the universe giving it back to Amanda a little bit like it'll get static cling so they basically he's talking about how like they started off with doing lots of guerrilla marketing you know samples meet and greets all that stuff and he's going to get back to the roots of it okay he's going to like get all his friends on this trolley and they're going to hand out merch they're just going to throw hats at people on the street and it's going to land on the street and then people are going to put it on their diet

38:28Ronnie Karam: getting back to the roots of lover boy it's a brand about drinking with your friends and having fun and saying, why did this cost$9? What is monk fruit? Why is it in my drink? So, yeah, we're going to be doing that today. And, you know, we're going to remind Amanda and Kenny, who's an investor. Thanks, buddy. And everybody else, they're still avoiding this industry, and we will fill it quite nicely. All right?

38:53Ben Mandelker: Meanwhile, Amanda's like, I have so much going on in my life. I have to pack. I'm moving. I'm making huge changes. but I want to make this relationship work. Amanda, you have been packing for like four weeks on this show. At this point, just call someone. Okay, you're wealthy. Just have someone pack it up for you.

39:13Ronnie Karam: Amanda's whole reframing of I'm leaving to help this relationship is hilarious. I mean, especially knowing what we know now but that she's patting herself on the back. She's like, I've been so busy packing to save this relationship. You're leaving the relationship.

39:28Ben Mandelker: And then she tries to spin a sign and she can't And she goes, Al, why can't I spin this? Physics is just working against her. Between that hair and this sign,

39:40Ronnie Karam: like, let's go. Let's go. So people start arriving. And Gavin comes. And he's like, when Kyle asks, I show up. I was thinking a party about it. It's not an old janky trolley that looks like it might break down any moment. But I'm here. Gavin is low-key my favorite one on this show. I like that he's. so messy but also like so nice it's like so nice to everybody but he also calls everybody on their ball he's like wow lover boy that's still around hilarious okay wow are we gonna be going around to ghost town because that's basically like your drink okay your drink is the uh it's a ghost town and a camp so fun thanks for inviting me he can say whatever he wants because um he knows

40:27Ben Mandelker: they have to be nice to him so that way they can get free drinks at his bar. That's why he's Richard Dawson-ing Whitney all the time and all the other women. So, Lindsay is like, oh my god, is this like a trolley from the 70s? Like, what the hell? I'm a bicycle. I'm a baby bicycle influencer and I'm not allowed to be in other vehicles. So, unfortunately, we have to sit this one out. Sorry.

40:51Ronnie Karam: So, Kenny Whitney come and Whitney's like, I mean, to get through this day i feel like i'm gonna need some lover boys and we see a flashback to whitney and kenny on a park bench two days ago and whitney going i mean gavin like called me like fucking like boring and vanilla and that i wasn't exciting enough for you and kenny's like

41:12Ben Mandelker: what you're not you're not boring i know i'm not because remember when i brought those wooden balls for your bookshelf? I mean, does a boring person do that? Are you awake?

41:26Ronnie Karam: On the trolley.

41:30Ronnie Karam: On the trolley, Whitney's like, I don't look good in hats. And Gavin goes, No, it actually works. You can't even tell how small your head is.

41:40Ben Mandelker: That was like an old school rony barb right there. Long live Gavin. So Kenny's like, yeah well I kind of expected a bunch of apologies right out the gate from Gavin and there was nothing no apologies because you know Gavin last episode ended it with him being like yeah I think that maybe when now that I know that you actually said there was no spark I think it's because she's boring as hell I see it now I see it you really are very boring and I mean that like you're exciting but you're boring

42:10Ronnie Karam: Wow Whitney you are oof I would pick up the check but honestly I want to order another side of toast just so I have something more interesting to talk to than you. Okay. Good. Good to see you.

42:24Ben Mandelker: I know how to make that. I know how to make toasts. So then we go, they're like, where's Georgina? So Georgina is not at the bar crawl thing because she's a doctor. She is working.

42:39Ronnie Karam: She's doing some of Scrotox. And she says Scrotox is where you put Botox in a scrotum to make it smooth. I don't know how I would react to a smooth scrotum. Like, if someone was like, here's my scrotum, it's smooth, a big, whoa, holy, almost a face.

42:56Ben Mandelker: I bet I know one person who knows about scrotox. Reese Rideout. So, and Reese Rider.

43:06Ronnie Karam: But I also like... Also, it's not the day to have your kids at work. You know what I mean? I don't want to be getting scrotox and have your kids running around the office screaming and yelling. Like, my balls, my balls are out.

43:16Ben Mandelker: okay yeah and those kids are like zombie apocalypse because like there's like a frosted glass door and you just see these hands on the glass door like let all sit

43:27Ben Mandelker: yeah yeah i wouldn't be okay with that yeah uh back to the trolley uh andrea's a lover boy and um they're all having fun and they're like yelling out to people being like you want lover boy and they're throwing like merch at them and i i was kind of grossed out by the hat that like wound up on the sidewalk and someone picked it up and put it on their head it's free it's new york city sidewalks you know yeah they throw a hat at someone they're like

43:53Ronnie Karam: enough give it up just give it up stop buying hats highlight of the episode andrea changes his shirt

44:01Ben Mandelker: so he's shirtless for a moment everyone's like oh my god lunch rail and then um and then he'll yeah lover boy gives you six-pack abs right bro right right so they go to the one bar and they're like you want to sell lover boy and oh my god this is so embarrassing this whole thing was so

44:18Ronnie Karam: embarrassing carl goes all right whoever gets a bar owner to commit to taking lover boy in we'll get and lexi goes equity and gavin goes i don't even know if i want equity

44:30Ben Mandelker: like hey gavin do you do you carry lover boy in your bars like yeah of course i mean i support kyle and carry lover boys it doesn't sell very well but you know maybe his trolley will help otherwise.

44:40Ronnie Karam: Hey, anybody want a free ride on the Titanic? Am I right? Come on! So they go into a bar, and they're like, can we talk to the bar owner? And Yvonne's like, okay, we're here because we love Loverboy. Have you ever heard of Loverboy? She's like, you want to try it? She goes, how do you like it? She's like, um, it's really good. Great. Oh.

45:07Ben Mandelker: So, um, then And they continue on this thing. And then Gavin asks Kenny and Kyle if they've chatted yet. They're back on the trolley. Like, hey, have you guys chatted yet because of the spark thing? And Kyle's like, yeah, yeah, we caught up. Everything's good. Everything's good. It's perfect. Okay, yeah, we cleared some things up. And Kyle's like, yeah, it's a little bit of a game of telephone. That was never my intention. So I did apologize to Kenny for that. So sorry. Sorry, bro. Sorry.

45:32Ronnie Karam: Yeah, I mean, I hope he got the apology. It was over the phone. I'm not sure if there was a chart. The phone was pretty sparkless. oh shit i'm sorry sorry god terrible and just like oh and i feel sorry about being a big

45:46Ben Mandelker: misunderstanding maybe because at least with carl is trying to say but at the same time the approach was all wrong but you know you could have dealt with like the situation a completely different way you know what i'm saying you know you can forgive me okay he's like well i will admit when i'm feeling like i'm defending my relationship um i can be very direct and abrasive in a way that Whitney can be very dull and not full of spark, right? So I think that that's where I was that night.

46:11Ronnie Karam: Yeah, sorry I had to defend my relationship so much, guys. Okay? And Lindsay's like, Um, are you talking about that? He's like, yeah. I don't know if it was a dream or not, but I thought you actually said something nice that night in the middle of that, and I thought you had, like, a nice thing to say. And Gavin's like, yeah, that was a dream.

46:30Ben Mandelker: I did not say anything nice to you. things that'd be nice to the guy with 1.9 million followers. Kevin's like, well, this is more productive. This is a much more productive conversation than we had the other night. Kyle's like, sorry to interrupt this, but it's time to sell more Loverboy merch. So now they're at a new place. And again, they're just trying to sell the stuff, and this guy's like, okay, whatever. They're like, look, look. Winsome Wines.

46:57Ronnie Karam: Winsome Wines. Hey, want to buy a A drink that's not selling. Win some, lose some. Okay. All right. Thanks for taking this. Keep that. Keep that.

47:07Ben Mandelker: All right. Yeah. Okay. I'll represent wins some. Whitney, you can represent lose some. Okay, great. Just talk about Spark. Commercials. Here comes one right now.

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48:36Ronnie Karam: Yeah, so they're still talking about Andrea's abs and how hot they are and stuff, which, I mean, good point. And so the producer's like, does Loverboy give you abs? and Andrea's like, yes, you'll see it. Here they are. He shows off his abs some more. It's a lot of Andrea's abs. It's like a good solid three minutes of Andrea's abs.

48:56Ben Mandelker: I would rather watch Andrea's abs than more Loverboy merch. So then Kyle's like, okay, everyone, we got 20 more stops. So they're just like, now they're doing this cheer. When you say lover, I say boy, lover. Or when I say lover, you say boy, whatever. And they're doing this whole thing. And then Gavin is, they're like talking with, Lindsay about a hat.

49:19Ronnie Karam: There's a lot of merch stuff happening here. It's a bunch of bullshit. Basically it's really boring until someone's like, okay let's start a fight. So Yvonne's like, okay. Well, first Lindsay's using the megaphone. They're all yelling stuff out the window. And Lindsay's like, oh my damn y 'all, I heard you went on a date this week with my best friend Yvonne. Yvonne's like, yeah, we had a great time. But we did talk about some things that you're going through right now. You know, you're going through a divorce Owen and still being married but dating Danielle but Danielle not being a homewrecker you know the public scrutiny of being a homewrecker okay go and Owen's like well I think

49:57Ben Mandelker: it's with this group you know I think that like it's nothing new like people getting divorced is nothing new like we were out with Katie and Matt and you know we were on a chat with they were on a chat with Kyle and Amanda and there were screenshots and blogs spreading rumors about Danielle spreading rumors about I so then we see screenshots that like they were all like oh my god danielle danielle's with a

50:19Ronnie Karam: married guy whatever and amanda's like katie it's been one of my best friends since third grade i'm allowed to talk with her and she's like yeah danielle and my best friend katie are close because i introduced them danielle's like yeah katie and i hit it off and we've been best friends ever since and i certainly don't want katie to be in the middle of this situation

50:42Ben Mandelker: don't worry she's not because the only footage they have of katie is her as her walking into the summer house they keep on showing katie and matt walking the door and putting the arrow over her and then she like showed up one more like millisecond this season so kind of like well when that came out like we don't like we don't know if you're not like we don't know what's going on to be fair and and owen's like but you didn't even ask danielle's like yeah but i'm like not in the group chat with him okay and like kitty matter like talk about stuff that's like about your marriage and your relationship it's like not cool well this wasn't about katie and matt yesterday so

51:14Ronnie Karam: that's not what i was trying to bring up right now daniel's like no but i'm saying it's hurtful and i might as like whatever you're calling me a homewrecker it's like it's a conversation you need to have with katie and matt because it's a group chat okay it's not me well who put us in

51:32Ben Mandelker: the group chat who put us in the group chat um this is something that was brought to our attention it's a conversation that the four of us have been having so that wasn't the first time it's been brought up in a conversation i was like what sort of defense is that like yeah no no it was listen it's not our fault that we're texting about it this was just brought to us and besides we've been talking about it for a very long time anyway oh never mind then feel free continue on

52:00Ronnie Karam: with your group checks about you know it's like well why weren't that tall to us about because they're not friends with you no one's friends with you on this show they just cast you on the show haven't we hasn't that been made clear that no one's still friends with you you guys were just cast on the show and also if someone's comes up in a blog with gossip the friends are going to text each other i mean i'm not i hate standing up for amanda but amanda should just not be a wuss about it and just say of course we were texting about it there was a blog calling you a home record duh yes we texted about it and danielle's been so messy with these kind of gossip items that

52:36Ben Mandelker: have come up over the years with her friends i mean she even like practically wrote an article as they mentioned in one of the flashbacks coming up soon not only that but in the one that you're

52:45Ronnie Karam: referring to that was the craig getting kicked out in italy thing and page blamed lindsey for doing that and lindsey took the blame she she didn't even deny it even though she knew it was Danielle who had leaked that story who would actually that's my story or whatever so it's a good ever Danielle

53:02Ben Mandelker: so um so Amanda's like why is there an issue with me and Kyle when Katie and Matt are the ones who brought it to our attention even though we've already been talking about it and then Kyle's like well the only reason why is it's like no quiet Kyle why is there issue with me and Kyle when Katie and Matt are the ones who told us about it even though we're already talking about it so Danielle's like well we don't know who brought it to anyone No, I'm not, you know that now Well, you're yelling at me Because you're not listening when you're talking over me

53:29Ronnie Karam: I'm not talking over you And Owen's like, I think you're the one talking over everybody Amanda

53:34Ben Mandelker: Amanda who just told Lindsay I just kind of like shut down when people yell at me Yeah, that's Amanda

53:41Ronnie Karam: Amanda just goes Amazing You know, like I've always felt kind of dismissed By Danielle Yeah, but I mean I'm usually team Danielle When she's dismissing you two Cause like

53:58Ronnie Karam: I'm with you lips of it And I laugh all over again No You can have a fucking conversation With Paige but not me Sick That's sick

54:09Ben Mandelker: She doesn't take me seriously Like I have a bikini that's named Sierra Like what the hell Like that's in my whole Like, my whole thing, our whole friendship, I think she's always kind of viewed me as Kyle's girlfriend. And anytime I get into a fight with Kyle, who's right by his side? Danielle. So Amanda is having some issues with people being loyal to other people. What a crazy thing.

54:34Ronnie Karam: But also Danielle's always been Kyle's friend, not yours. I mean, I'm going to go to my friend. Why are we pretending these? You've never liked each other. So Amanda's like, yeah, you know, she's just not my bestie. So Owen's like, oh, Kyle put it into the chat and that's why we're asking about it. Oh, Owen, if you don't want people talking about you fucking around, then don't fuck around. Or don't be fucking a public figure right when you're about to get divorced or whatever you did. Stop blaming other people, Owen.

55:04Ben Mandelker: Stop dating A-list celebrities like Danielle, okay?

55:09Ronnie Karam: No one has stopped talking about Danielle for 10 years. Okay.

55:14Ben Mandelker: She is a founder and a CEO. So Amanda is like, well, either way, Daniel tells us no one screenshot something and puts it in the group chat to just be like, wow, can you believe this? Like, shucks, eat shit. She's full of it. She's full of shit. Like, relax. So Gavin is saying like, is this about their relationship and the divorce or is it about your relationship? And she goes, I have no idea. Honestly, I'm good. You put it in the group chat. I thought we were better friends. And maybe you should just like check in. But I don't know. Maybe I was like dumb.

55:46Ronnie Karam: um i have breaking news i just got this um no one died don't worry no 80 star died in the making of this announcement bad just give us um noah sampton senior vice president of current production for bravo and peacock denies rumors that they edited edited summer house season 10 to protect amanda batula's image and soft launch a victim narrative wow have you already heard our podcast that's exactly what i just accused you of um no intention to protect strictly standard editing commitment to fairness the state of her reality future while sampton shut down the projection room the protection rumors amanda's casting future remains highly scrutinized west wilson was officially dropped and bravo's vp of current production josh brown stated that official summerhouse casting directions will not be finalized until late jim oh whatever stop bugging me with headlines that don't say anything.

56:41Ben Mandelker: Stop fucking me, internet.

56:43Ronnie Karam: You're putting Amanda right back on there

56:45Ben Mandelker: and you know it. I thought you were going to say that Wes leaving the show was actually just all rumors and that nothing's been confirmed. I literally thought that's what's going to happen. And then I thought Park Overall might have been dead. But I'm glad that...

56:57Ronnie Karam: Park Overall has been cast on Summer House Season 11.

57:00Ben Mandelker: Get right. I would love that. I would love that. She comes in, but she just acts like she's 36. She's like, Hey, everyone.

57:07Ronnie Karam: My name is Spark. spark overall that would make me so happy okay so back to this uh nonsense so um danielle's like no one screenshot something and puts it in a group chat just to be like wow can you believe this shucks eat shit she's full of shit yes they do danielle that's what text is for it's like

57:29Ben Mandelker: literally every text thread that's why she's that's what she's saying no no that's she's she's saying that she's saying that they're acting like like oh my god she's saying that they're acting like oh did you see this thing about danielle how interesting she's like no you guys were you guys were putting in the group text to talk shit that's what you were doing

57:47Ronnie Karam: no yeah okay well either way same danielle those are like no one has to say about this

57:53Ben Mandelker: what does no what does noah bridgehampton have to say about this from mdc

57:58Ronnie Karam: Reese Ryder what do you have to say about this so Kevin's like okay wait a minute Amanda is this about their relationship and the divorce or is this about your relationship like what are we even talking about and Danielle's like I have no idea and honestly I'm good and you put it in the group chat and I thought we were better friends and maybe like you would check in or something maybe I was just dumb you're dumb if you think Amanda and you are friends everybody knows you guys aren't friends stop it I'm trying to explain to her.

58:29Ben Mandelker: Katie and Matt brought it up to us. What do you not understand? That lover boy is the best drink on earth. Kenny's like, okay, I don't want anything to do with this. I'm not in this. And Whitney, of course, is like,

58:41Ronnie Karam: what's going on? Yeah. Whitney's like, I literally don't know what's going on. We know, Whitney. I was like, how dare you call me messy? Hold on, I have a call coming from me, huh?

58:51Ben Mandelker: Hold on. Hold on. Then Danielle's like, never in a group chat. I've never done something like that. I've never screen grabbed a headline about my friend and put it in a group chat. Okay, lies. Lies, Danielle. Huge lies. If you want me to believe that you were not sending headlines to whatever friend you have about Lindsay and Carl, you are sadly mistaken.

59:14Ronnie Karam: She even said when she got confronted about the page thing. Not the page thing. Craig getting kicked out of the wedding thing. She's like, I mean, yeah. Like, so what? Who cares if I, like, it was juicy. Hmm.

59:26Ben Mandelker: yeah she said that so danielle's like it's not the fucking truth amanda that's the fucking problem not a homewrecker and lindsey's like wait wait what's going on i'm a bicycle influencer and danielle's like i'm out i'm out she thinks that's fucking true go fuck yourself amanda

59:43Ronnie Karam: what's happening so danielle leaves the troll and she's like i'm out you tried the wrong one bitch you're literally running away i know nobody's scared i'm the founder and ceo of the wrong one

59:55Ben Mandelker: Okay So Kyle's like okay well Whatever I don't reach out to Danielle When she's fucking my wife over how about that Huh so

1:00:04Ronnie Karam: And Owen's like about what what did she fuck your wife over And Kyle's like And the man's like don't talk on my behalf Kyle And Owen's like he doesn't even talk he shouts So

1:00:17Ben Mandelker: Welcome to Kyle And then meanwhile Andrea and Lexi are trying to Catch up with Danielle and Andrea's like Oh Danielle stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop chill chill chill chill chill and she's like no it's not is that not fucking true is that what i'm like what why are we still at like level 10 over this stupid screenshot and the group text with katie and mac were not even on the show

1:00:37Ronnie Karam: oh this is so stupid so amanda's now mad she's like whatever kyle i'm done i don't want to do this anymore you're screaming and shouting and it's ridiculous amanda you've been screaming and chatting this whole time. I know. Seriously. So Nick's like, let's go get a pint. And Lindsay's like, thanks for the day, Kyle. Love you. So now this is over. Meanwhile, Danielle's crying to Lexi. And Lexi's like, you know it's not true. We know it's not true. They know it's not true. True is true. And not true is not true.

1:01:13Ben Mandelker: Thank you very much. Danielle, I don't think you're a homewrecker. just a shitty friend and she's like yeah and i don't even think that you would do that to me not even someone as awful and as craven as you lindsey would do something like that to me take a screenshot of me and put in a group text no no only the most depraved people which is one level below you lindsey would do that she's like um i know that you love him and i know that like out

1:01:37Ronnie Karam: of every guy who's been like tricked into dating you like he is the one that was probably the most stolen, so I support you, Damion.

1:01:46Ben Mandelker: Yeah, look at the way he's consoling you right now by being in a bar and drinking a pint instead, like he is the one.

1:01:52Ronnie Karam: It just cuts to Owen drinking in a bar, like,

1:01:55Ben Mandelker: oh, Jesus. I know. So, the event pretty much wraps up, and it's a great time. So now we move over to the West Village, and now it's Lindsay and Danielle, and they're waiting in line for a pizza place called Lindistry. I guess it's a popular pizza place. I hope it's worth it, because that was the long line and there's a lot of pizza in New York you could probably get so yeah I'm taking pot shots at you industry and it's really just uh it's honestly just transferred frustration because Ronnie and I were in Soho uh two weeks ago and we needed a quick bite and we tried to get we tried to get a slice of pizza and they're like um there's a line and there was like this big line

1:02:33Ronnie Karam: I'm like for pizza crazy right I saw it at a few pizza places I wonder if I pass this one like the tiktok pizza you know whatever they put on tiktok and everyone's like oh my god it's tiktok pizza get it they're like eating their pizza like yes doing shoulder dances um i don't know i got like a dollar fifty sliced down the street it was good so um oh speaking of uh danielle's like the line is long but it's a really good pizza place and lindsey's like is that a tiktok place and it's like um that's sensitive for me because i'm not On TikTok are you on TikTok

1:03:07Ben Mandelker: I can only handle like One social media platform at a time Like any good influencer

1:03:13Ronnie Karam: Um yeah I was That's what I thought too I was like

1:03:17Ben Mandelker: Where is the sand

1:03:18Ronnie Karam: What are you talking about

1:03:20Ben Mandelker: Is this not the beach Oh no Industry So let me be like um Are you okay cause like when we left that trolley you were like Not well and like you were like really upset And like once I was done laughing about it a few hours later, I was like, I should probably check in on her. So are you okay?

1:03:38Ronnie Karam: Yeah, I mean, I hate that I was like storming out and crying, but you know, and then she's telling us the homewrecker word. It's like very triggering for someone who's Latina and you're seen a certain way. You're always the mistress. I mean, made in Manhattan.

1:03:52Ben Mandelker: I haven't seen a made in Manhattan. Was J-Lo a mistress in that one?

1:03:58Ronnie Karam: I think she was a cleaning lady or something who fell in love with a rich guy or something. It's a cute movie.

1:04:05Ben Mandelker: yeah i know i i i uh i just never i never got to see it but um uh i just love that made Manhattan is like the that's like the reference point here the big statement is made in Manhattan so um the history making made she she feels like she's being profiled by being Latina as being like automatically some sort of like vixen who's going to come in and ruin everything or being like upwardly mobile. And so it's very triggering for her. And Lindsay's like, I mean, I would have been upset if I'd been paying attention to what you were saying for the past five minutes. When's this pizza ready? Yeah. And then a guy walks by and just burps on them.

1:04:46Ben Mandelker: Did that guy burp on me?

1:04:48Ronnie Karam: Sorry, that was Owen. So Lindsay pays for it. And she's being really nice to Danielle. And so they start talking about Gemma. And is she walking yet? And she's like, I'm like walking with a walker. Paige is like, like mother, like daughter. Am I right? Oh, my.

1:05:10Ben Mandelker: Sorry, I don't have to wait in line for this pizza. Bye. Danielle is like, oh, by the way, can I come to your apartment at some point? It looks beautiful. And she's like, yeah, I mean, I'm a little hesitant because that's like a weird thing for you to ask. But like, I just don't know where we stand. Like, I don't know where our friendship is right now. so

1:05:30Ronnie Karam: it's so weird I like that Lindsay's like oh my god Danielle I am totally in support you know you did not you know I'm that man let me buy you lunch you cannot come to my house I'm not ready for that

1:05:40Ben Mandelker: not yet so Danielle's like I don't know but like we're sort of redating each other I guess like where do we go from here I have an answer for that your apartment can I see it please oh cause like I just I don't want you to think I'm not trying

1:05:54Ronnie Karam: yeah and she's like okay well keep trying So, Owen, I've had, like, limited interactions with him, but it seems like he's really lovely and married. So when is he going to get divorced? She's like, um, it's underway right now. It's, like, a matter of time and paperwork. Yeah, trust me. Paperwork thing is, like, so fucking long. I dated this guy, and he'd been separated for, like, two years. And we went out one night, and we came home, and his wife was, like, sitting in the dark drinking a glass of wine. And she went, shoes off! Shoes off!

1:06:28Ben Mandelker: I was like, there's a human in here. What does this have to do with paperwork? Nothing. I just was bored with you. So I was just trying to transition to something more interesting for the audience.

1:06:38Ronnie Karam: I'm just trying to make your story more interesting by inserting my story in there. And Danielle's like, wait, so they were still living together? And she's like, no, but clearly you still have the kids who are a barber.

1:06:49Ben Mandelker: Was it Amanda and Kyle?

1:06:50Ronnie Karam: Yes, it was.

1:06:53Ben Mandelker: So she's like, well, he's moving into mine. So that's not going to be an issue. you know she's like but i had very clear boundaries like like call me when you're divorced like i can't do this that's what i'm trying to say like why don't you wait like no not i don't judge you i just didn't know if you had that mental timeline of like i don't know waiting she's like i don't know i just i feel like to put like a definitive timeline on it is like silly but like he wants to get married and he wants to have kids and things are going to be happening you know he wants things to happen okay well as long as it's definitely happening happening yeah so now we go to kenny's

1:07:27Ronnie Karam: apartment and um they're talking about the dad when he's like did you find the father and he's like well it's weird because i hired this private investigator and um i wanted an update and he gave me a bunch of phone numbers but none of the phone numbers worked. Really? Dan Rubick? Hey, Lou, I think they're catching on. What a probability. I've got a number for you here. Rivalflavin? Aspartame? Are you reading the back of an ice cream carton? I am. Okay, that'll be$500 more. Thanks. Talk to you next week.

1:08:03Ben Mandelker: Okay, so your dad is British. He lives in England. Alright, well, we have great news. We found him. He lives in Tampa, and his name is now Lois Pajango. What are you talking about? I opened up the phone book and that's the first name I found. You got me. Your dad is so famous

1:08:23Ronnie Karam: he's got a song. Casino Morongo. That's not my father. Do you have your TV on right now? 1-877-CARS for kids. Damn it! So Whitney's like, wait a minute, but we we have an address, right? So let's just like Google the address and the number and then see what comes up. And he's like, oh, okay. She goes, maybe we can find his wife or we could like find him on social media, like Facebook. Old people love Facebook. He's like, what? Facebook? Are they on Facebook? Yeah, all parents are on Facebook. It's like their Bible. What's her name? Deborah? Debbie? Oh my God. She literally knows Jesus. She's here.

1:09:03Ronnie Karam: I found her. Let's call her. Are you Kenny's mom? She's like, oh my God, Kenny, We've been looking for you

1:09:11Ben Mandelker: And that just Guts away

1:09:13Ronnie Karam: Of all people solve this You're going to Whitney just found it on Facebook You know what we don't give Whitney enough credit

1:09:24Ben Mandelker: Yeah it's an old person She's like okay well I just Typed in Crazy memes crazy political memes And her face just popped right up You know once you get to that certain age you just love posting Crazy memes on Facebook Oh, look at this So I cross-referenced the name Debbie With a status update that says My account has been hacked Please don't open up anything on my account It has been hacked Also, beware of solar panels It's a conspiracy

1:09:53Ronnie Karam: Dear Facebook, you do not have my permission To repost any pictures Of me or my family

1:10:05Ben Mandelker: Tragic story about a turtle That was killed By an opossum Oh my god, and then your mom was right there Yeah, so

1:10:17Ronnie Karam: Then we go to Kyle and Amanda's apartment And people are still Packing Amanda's things, good lord My god Still packing And there's still piles of clothes on one of the beds And you know Amanda just left half that shit there She's like well I'll come back for this later

1:10:35Ben Mandelker: Yeah of course So she's gathering her stuff And she's starting to cry And she's like you know She says I'm finally moving out today And I was alone last night And I had like a full breakdown Even though it's like to help our relationship Like it does feel like a chapter's closing So I thought she was crying Because of the chapter's closing But we find out later that she's crying Because Kyle didn't come home that night And she's like

1:10:59Ronnie Karam: Why wouldn't you spend my last night in the apartment? I'm leaving you to save our relationship, and you weren't even here. He's like, what do you mean? And he's doing his, like, Kyle, like, he's looking down. You know, it's kind of the West. Like, he's had to apologize so many times. He's like, I'm just sorry. I disrespected. What is I sorry for again? Just tell me. I'll just say it.

1:11:22Ben Mandelker: Okay. I am leaving you, but I'm pretending it's only for a month, but it's for a year. and so today is the day that i actually am going to leave and so out of respect for me you should have stayed in last night because today i'm leaving so it wasn't cool that you left last night because i'm about to leave for a year because i don't like you anymore i can't believe you didn't stay here last night yeah it's like it's it's not logic like i understand like your date you're trying to like i don't think that like i understand if he maybe is like i don't know if I want to throw a going away party for my wife when she's leaving me you know

1:12:01Ronnie Karam: I kind of get that yeah I mean you're leaving me and so I went like what do you want and he says but the past two nights I spent with you and you just got high on the couch all night and didn't talk to me you know and so she goes through this whole like well who and she ignores that she's like bye Kyle of course and um she's like who was in our apartment last night like I mean you go to the marathon and then you come home at midnight and then you go back out and you bring people back here like strangers like you're bringing strangers back to our home while i'm asleep i mean that was pretty creepy and you had a woman in our home that you just met out like i'm doing this for the sake of our marriage no you're not you're leaving him so just feel more justified in leaving and go and get your shit off the bed yeah i mean i i i do think it is a little fucked

1:12:47Ben Mandelker: up and i do think that like kyle is not good with being like dealing with his emotions so of course he's gonna fill he's gonna fill this void that's happening here with like having people over it is kind of crazy but like it's just weird to see someone who's trying to like leave the relationship get mad that someone's not like sending them off in a way i don't know like if i were amanda i'd be like oh you know what fuck this guy i'm out of here and just be out i'm just sick of it that's

1:13:17Ronnie Karam: it i'm sick of this couple i'm sick of listening to them fight it has been forever amanda is the constant victim yes what kyle did obviously is stupid but he's also getting dumped by his wife who's lying to him the whole time every at every turn about what she's doing and where she's going and how long she's gonna go there and so as far as i'm concerned she doesn't really have a leg to stand on here and i'm fucking sick of listening to her and i'm sick of kyle doing his shit too but just go just go and take lover boy with you i've had it with other people they're both such

1:13:48Ben Mandelker: full of shit and i love that amanda's like my movers are here and i have to like go and i'm like very overwhelmed right now like this is the last thing i needed today and he's like well but you knew it was marathon sunday i was trying to encourage you i don't know what that i don't know what marathon sunday had to do do with this but i love this like wait you can't be mad at me it was marathon sunday i was gonna party i had to celebrate the marathon

1:14:11Ronnie Karam: so she storms out she's like you left early and then you came back at 2 in the morning he's like I was trying to encourage you I don't know what that means marathon Sunday I don't know what that means either so she's like okay well I don't care Kyle and this leaves him oh my god please and by the way also I have so much going on my movers are here your movers are doing it all you didn't even pack your shit

1:14:36Ben Mandelker: you have so much going on He was on a business call and you interrupted a business call to be like, I need you to come out here so I can get mad at you for having someone over last night. Having people over right before I dumped you.

1:14:54Ronnie Karam: Be gone, you two. Be gone. I'm sick of it. Cheers to your new toxic relationships to spend the next decade of my life on. But enough of you two. Jesus. All right, everybody. Well, thanks so much for joining us. We will be back tomorrow to talk about the Valley. The Valley, guys. I'm going to watch it right now. It's a real humdinger. Okay, everybody. Thanks so much for being here. And we will talk to you next time.

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