#3428: In the City S1E6 Part Two: The Best Little Hoard House In New York

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2:26So Frank is there and he's doing his usual thing, which is basically saying very little and just letting his daughter complain.

2:34Ronnie Karam: We also get some more Amanda basic lying here where he's like, do you think you're doing this resentful? Do you think he's resentful maybe that you're doing this? And she's like, maybe. And he goes, because when you talked about doing this, it sounded to us like it was more of a mutual decision. She's like, um, well, I mean, like it was, I mean, I guess it was me spearheading it. You fucking, you're lying to your parents. Just tell your parents you're leaving Kyle. They're going to see the show. Are you acting like this is a mutual decision? You're leaving Kyle. I mean, good for you. You have plenty of cause to leave Kyle.

3:13Ronnie Karam: Good for you. But see, she's playing it to be like, no, Kyle wanted this too. No, he didn't. i mean like i think it's clear on some level she's not she's not accepted her reality yet as well but like yeah this was you this is you you wanted this and so she's like well this might not have been the route that he would have taken things i think he's like understanding and sees how this could be helpful like he does not see how it's helpful but you can already see that like i get the sense that cal's already pretty happy he's already like oh shit this is great So Amanda tells us about how Kyle And her parents have not always had the best relationship Which we've seen over the years Not great between them The clip of him Asking the dad for Amanda's Hand in marriage Wow

4:05Ronnie Karam: Well Amanda's going to make up her own mind Whether I give you my permission or not Kyle's like So funny Kyle also had that weird little beard so Amanda's like my biggest frustration for a while has been like his drinking just like there's things on the internet about him like how he's like seen out and like couldn't stand up and was slurring his words I'm like he does that also when he's in by the way to break it to you he doesn't just do that in public it's everywhere he is so she says the other night he brought up two strangers and was like playing music on a Sunday night at 2am while I was sleeping and I'm like moving the next day.

4:46Ronnie Karam: Was he out or just doing DJ gigs? She's like, no, he's not even DJing. Now, this is where, you know, I'm totally team Amanda. I wouldn't be married to somebody who's still going out until two in the morning and bringing people home. On a Sunday. Yeah, I'm playing, you know, playing. Yeah, I just, I wouldn't be married to that either. So, you know, all of this, I'm still team. I'm still on Amanda's side with all this. Well, yeah, it's like, it's a Sunday. Movers coming early. He brings back people. They're chatting. There's not a lot of room. She's a light sleeper. It's going to wake her up. And he's playing music.

5:18Yeah, it's disrespectful to the space. And this is where Kyle is failing over and over again. And I don't think someone who's sober makes that decision. But he gets drunk and he's like, oh, let's come back. It's like the summer house, but it's like an apartment. Let's do this party. So that's like bullshit. You shouldn't be doing that. I don't think it's bad that he went out the night before she moved out. No, I just mean in general.

5:43Ronnie Karam: I'm like, in general, like, yeah, I try to not want to be with somebody who does shit like that all the time. But as far as the night before, you're leaving him. So, like, I don't even care about that night specifically. It's just, yeah, I wouldn't, I don't blame you for leaving someone who's, like, still going out and getting wasted all the time and acting like they're 20, you know? Now, by the way, I do think that we have to give Kyle a little bit of shit here, too, which is that he is saying, like, I want to make it work out. And then she's just like leaving me. And like, I'm like, I'm trying to do everything I can to make this work.

6:15It's like, Kyle, well, you do say you're trying to do everything you can to make it work. And I don't believe you're under any obligation to like sit there and like stare at Amanda the night before she leaves you. But if you are trying to make it work out, if you are being truthful about what you're saying, you should want to like kind of like have a moment in the last night that you might ever be together. in the same house. No, I'm with him on this one.

6:42Ronnie Karam: I'm actually with Kyle on this one because he said he spent the previous two nights with her and all she did was sit there and get high and not talk to him. And this was the day of a marathon. Oh yeah, that's true, I forgot. This was the day of a marathon, which I guess he was running the marathon where anybody else on this show or any show on Bravo who runs a fucking marathon, including Carl most recently, we have to throw them a fucking parade about it and everyone has to be supportive and go see them and it's like a big deal where you run a marathon and everybody's supportive of you and she's like no fuck that i want to i forgot thank you for reminding me that day and yes fuck him on the day that he wants support from me so he's like fuck you well i yeah i forgot that she did spend the previous two nights and um and like did nothing and oh i mean there's also look at me doing a pivot on my own thing but like i can also imagine a thing of like if this really is just like a trial separation then this is just like another night right like why should we be super dramatic i don't know i don't want to make too many excuses for kyle but um i don't i'm not making any excuses for kyle she should be leaving kyle period i'm on her side as far as this relationship sucks and she's gonna get out of there i'm i'm there you know what it is it's just all of this how she's going about it is terrible and how she's manipulating it to make Kyle look even worse is terrible and the whole West thing obviously is terrible so it's just like she's you know what I was saying at the beginning like she's so right about so many things that I should be on her side but just yeah knowing what she did and seeing how she just left that apartment it's just it just I think shows how much respect you have for the other person and you're not that much better and all this cheating shit that you keep coming up with is so old and so outdated like if you're gonna come up just say the drunk stuff that's enough for me you're out wasted with fans every night till four in the morning you know yeah that's it i think the cheating stuff is actually like if she if something happened like three years ago i think and she sort of kept it buried i think that's okay to bring up but i do think that i guess for me it's like i don't i i think kyle fully is not under any obligation to be super present for amanda while she walks out of his life i don't think he's under that obligation but i do think if he's going on and on and on and trying to like and talking to every single person about how he's trying so hard to make it work it is a little bit like yeah but like if you're trying so hard to make it work what like like this was a chance to actually have like a romantic and reflective moment for one last time and it's tricky it's like not a black and white situation because you're right he did try to do that for two days and Amanda was like, whatever.

9:24And Fani's like, you know what, fuck it. So that does inform it. It's a weird situation. I'm just saying, Kyle has a little bit of bullshit going on too. A hundred percent. Totally, yeah. He doesn't get a full pass here. But Amanda is full of more bullshit in this situation, if you ask me.

9:40Ronnie Karam: No, and that's one of the things that just makes me crazy about it. They're both terrible in their own way. and they're both they both contributed to the they both contributed yeah just shitty nature of this relationship and they continue to and the fact that you already left and now we still have to listen to you fight it's like no just leave like i feel like you're leaving me and you just need to fucking go i don't like if you leave me i don't want to talk to you every day and i feel like that about this show i like you left so go just go leave live you're like i'm single and i'm great but the first thing you do it's like you get this new apartment and the first thing you do is set up a scene to talk about how terrible kyle is and then you have kyle over to yell at kyle like fuck off dude i'm out of this marriage okay i thought it was over i thought if i made it to last week this marriage would be over and i still have to listen to you do you know how i found out that i have quote unquote light hemophilia do you know how i found that out it's because when i was 18, I got my wisdom teeth out.

10:41And a few days after the surgery, I started bleeding a lot from my mouth. And it turns out that the clots, because it was a big sort of surgery, the clots were not really strong enough to really hold on. And so they sort of came out. And then I just kept on bleeding. And it turns out that if you have a situation like that where clots come out or whatever and there's still some clotting left behind like the new blood has a hard time kind of like creating new clots weirdly enough and so i had to go like late at night and get like the whatever was left sort of like cleaned out so that way a whole new fresh clot could happen and i feel like in this situation amanda has left clots in the wound and the blood is just flowing And it's like, girl, clean the clots out, start fresh, and let the healing begin.

11:37Ronnie Karam: Amanda, your hemophilia.

11:42We said it. There we go. It's been said. Yeah.

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16:06Ronnie Karam: I didn't notice until he was standing with everybody. And then Kyle and Nick come. They're like, whoa, guys night, guys, wow. And Kyle asks Owen, were you the first guys night? He's like, no, no. Oh, no, Kenny says he invited Owen because he feels for Owen. He's new to this group just like Whitney is. And he wants him to feel included. So he's a good guy. Let's include Owen. And today he's not wearing the ascot so he can come yeah so uh there they play some golf and then kenny is like by the way what's the update uh what's what's going on with you kyle like i was like well look i actually really appreciate a helpful all of you guys have been i mean i don't always know all the answers because everything is unfolding in real time and uh yeah let's do a flashback to my everyone being over my apartment and so now we see them all over there and kyle's like leading up to remove that i was literally like on the most stressful investor call ever she basically like left and like a and was pissed off because i went out and then b because i wasn't able to help i just feel guilty because she basically left in tears yeah and so kenny's saying you know i like amanda but why are you guys fighting for this relationship like clearly nobody wants he's like i don't know it's just scary to think about starting over you know i'm sure it's scary for i don't know so Owen's like but do you feel bad about the situation he's like well the situation sucks he's like well I know all breakups suck right you always feel bad about it and Nick's like not all of them just Nick I love Nick's little one liners here and there and he's just got a little smile he's like not all of them so Gavin messy Gavin's like well Owen your breakup with your ex-wife is sad right right he's like well ever breakup is sad he's like by the way how long how long were you married or should i say have are you still married he's like oh we were married four years and he's like so did you meet danielle when you're with your wife he's like uh no no and oh it's getting pissed you can see it but welcome to your reality show sir like you're all gonna be grilled and gavin's like okay i do not want to ask too many questions okay i hope i'm not asking too many when were you married did you have an affair are you still having an affair okay just go ahead and owen goes whoa that's okay because i won't give you any answers and everyone laughs but owen's looking at him like you fuck yeah seriously so um like like so then there's like so what's going on like you guys filed he's like yes we're going through the divorce process it's like so like what is it like, differences, like, reconcilable differences.

18:48Owen's like, yeah, sure.

18:52Ronnie Karam: See, this is where I was like, oh, so you did cheat. Yeah, I was like, oh, you cheated. When they're like, reconcilable differences, and he gives them, look, he's pissed. He's clearly pissed about being questioned. And then he just goes, yeah, sure. Hmm? Yeah, you cheated. Okay.

19:13You cheated. um so uh so then so then everyone's like okay and gavin's like you're bullshitting me man i'm still confused and uh kenny kenny is like well you know once you file you know you're legally separated at some point you are divorced and gavin's like yeah do and do you know this so well because that's where you're headed kenny kenny's like um yeah well gavin can't shrink together a fucking relationship for more than three months and he wants to sabotage every relationship so I think you thrive on toxicity Gavin and Nick just goes drama

19:52they really need a gay in their group gotta say it properly

19:56Ronnie Karam: drama drama drama and so Kenny's like yeah well we don't have that in our relationship and you think there's something missing and Kyle's like well not to be mediator but I feel like he wants to feel like you're excited for him. And he's like, but I am excited for you. And Kenny's like, oh, he's excited for me, but he has a level of hate towards my relationship. Oh, Kenny, you are such a fucking wuss. No, he doesn't. And then Kenny goes, you told her she was boring. No, he didn't. He said that you clearly feel like she's boring. There's a difference. He didn't say that she was boring. He said that the two of you together are boring because you're both boring and then you're like boring squared it's a very different situation i think it was clearly saying listen you feel i you said that you don't have a spark with this girl i just found out you said that that's true that you actually said it and i seeing you together i think you want more i think you think she's boring you want more from this now was that his place to really say on national tv i would be pissed if i was his friend and he said that to me in front of my girlfriend on national TV.

21:07Ronnie Karam: But he didn't... You're twisting what he said. As usual. Whitney is not boring. She's just kind of empty. You know if you were to look inside of a bell and you'd say, oh wow, it's not solid. There's a space for that thing, the pendulum, to swing around in. That's Whitney. That's all. But that's not boring. It's just, you know... empty everyone's mad at an empty vessel until you need to put your water into something no empty vessels have a place in this world boring things have a place in this world yes and as i will say also by the way on behalf of a boring gay uh sometimes it's okay sometimes it's okay to be boring you're not boring but i agree that it's yeah it's okay to be boring you have to be excited he's but the he's not mad that people are calling whitney boring because that's not what is happening well i mean we are but that's not what's happening people are accusing you of finding whitney boring that's just difference and that's what gavin was saying get off his ass kenny is just um someone who has constructed an image of himself and his relationships and his world and he gets very fussy and huffy when anyone like threatens to damage it.

22:27Like you can see here, he goes, I still can't pinpoint where some of the hate is coming from. It's getting out of line now where it's just so consistent. It's really starting to piss me off. That's like, that's not like best homie material. At what point do I need to like check him? Like check him, check him. I'm like, okay. You guys are in a boring relationship. You're not excited by it. You've shown very little enthusiasm to anyone and people have actually checked you. And now you feel like you have to check other people for checking you. And that's -

22:55Ronnie Karam: Well, that's the thing. Like, he's fine with saying whatever he wants about everybody else. Like, telling Lindsay, oh, that sounds like a little bit of a man-hater. You're fine checking people all the time. And look, again, I don't blame him for getting annoyed that Gavin is being so forward about his personal life on TV. But the way he's twisting everything to make Gavin sound worse is annoying, you know? And Gavin's like, oh, whatever. I love Kenny's relationship. Whatever. And he goes, oh yeah, then use your fucking words, bitch. And Nick's like, wow, this is great. Usually I'm the one getting yelled at.

23:33Ronnie Karam: Drama. Drama. Drama. Drama. Well now, by the way, Ronnie, the time has come. Because guess what? We are now with Lindsay Lactin-Ebond. They're at the drugstore. In an aisle. A barrette aisle. A narrow aisle. Ovulation strips. ovulation barrettes and um uh yeah lexi is uh does like talk about like how these things work and like an app and everything and like and i'm sorry lindsey is showing um them how to work the uh the app and ivana is very confused she's like so i don't understand so it's like so it's like the five days before the circle date it's like a little bit of a warning to get pregnant but like you have two days to get pregnant but then the circle date is like you can only get pregnant for like 12 hours every month.

24:20Like, I really don't understand this.

24:23Ronnie Karam: Yeah, Lindsay tells them you can only get pregnant 12 hours of every month. I did not know that. I even looked it up. I was like, is that true? How are so many people pregnant all the time? Yeah. That is true. Although sperm can last in your system for five days, which I also didn't know. God, sperm is strong. So technically, you can get pregnant for six days. But I didn't know any of this information. I was fascinated. I didn't know there were ovulation strips. I knew about ovulation strips, but I did not know that the window was as small as 12 hours a month. That's cray cray. Yeah. So they talk about that, and Lindsay just describing the ovulation or explaining it to them was so funny.

25:05Ronnie Karam: Because they just kept making it one of those, it's going 10 hours. They kept cutting out and cutting back in and cutting back out and using the blur thing to make it look like Lindsay's like, First of all, you take the Nathan's circle, and then when the next... Later, ten hours later. And that's when you're omulating, but... 15 hours later. Shine a mirror at the full moon, and then wait for the reflection to hit the stone. And if you see the symbols come together, when the moment that the shadow of the branch and the shadow of the tombstone cross, that will give you the guide to open up the trap door to entabulation.

25:40Ronnie Karam: Ten hours later. Brick and mortar! Brick and mortar! Ten hours later. And that's how you ovulate. It's like Indiana Jones finding the secret to the catacombs in Venice in the Last Crusade. It's like, wait a second. So she's telling them which ovulation sticks to take. And Lexi's saying, well, you know, Andrea and I have you covered because we've been having sex like crazy. so sorry you're not having sex but we're having a lot of non-stop multiple times a day andrea's crying he's like i can't take it anymore and they laugh and uh we cut to a scene of andrea being like i know you feel the pain sometimes but uh i get sore too and she's lexi you know lexi's so blase about everything so she's just lying there like yeah but there's only a few more days in the window so come on giddy up and he's like yeah i know but oh god i gotta look at the little boy down there.

26:41Come on, this horrible bitch. Give him a break. Time is money. Always be closing. So then we go to, speaking of which, we see Nick and Andrea. They are running in the park. And Andrea is like, oh, yes, another five-mile day. And Nick is like, oh, let's not get run over by that garbage truck. Well, look, I need to give my wife a kid, you know, like I need a kid. I need to work out so my penis works

27:10Ronnie Karam: too. You know, I need to keep the little guys coming. Come on, let's work out. And we just see him jump roping and running and doing whatever he can to keep his wiener going. Yeah, and he's really going through the paces. And it works, by the way. It works. Yeah, it worked. Their baby is going to come out with ankle weights and a little sweatband. Like, I'm ready. Watch out for that garbage truck. Abs. First baby with abs. A little sick dog. So now we go back to the drugstore and Lexi's like, do you guys do specific positions? And Yvonne's like, are you? She goes, yeah. I mean, they say doggy style's good.

27:49Ronnie Karam: I'm like, and Lexi says, Andrea kept just saying reverse cowboy. And she's like, that's a new position. I haven't even heard of that one. And then Yvonne's like, Lindsay, what position were you in when you got pregnant? She goes, I was doing a backwards bridge on the floor of my living room. I'm just like imagining what Lindsay's doing. shapes um a back bridge a backwards bridge wow that's incredible you know what that is right the backwards bridge is that that's literally crazy is that that's when you lay down and you put your palms behind you and then you lift yourself up with your palms and your legs so you're like yeah that i thought that was wheel but either way i know i had the vision in my head of what I, because I've heard it's called a bridge or wheel, and then I sort of think that was called wheel and bridge or something else.

28:44But the point is, I had a vision of, like, I don't know what it was, but I just imagined it was Lindsay doing that pose. Being, like, with the palms back up. Still talking to you, probably,

28:54Ronnie Karam: like we're headbent on the way back. Um, you're doing it right, by the way, if I talk to you about ovulation, you're right. Ten hours later, Lindsay doing a handstand. I feel like I could see Lindsay on one of those brochures. Yeah, we talked about an ovulation? And it's like her face. And you have to open it up and read. In a back bridge, just with her head upside down looking into the poster. Are we talking about an ovulation yet? It's like a playground. Remember those bars that were in that arch? You climb up and then over and then fall off and hurt your arm. So then they're talking about Lindsay's saying how she hasn't had sex in almost a year and everything.

29:37And she's like, Maybe you should practice right here. So then this guy is watching them. And he's just like, he's like sitting there. He's like in a wheelchair or something or a scooter. And he's just like watching. And Yvonne's like, well, it looks like we have an audience here to our conversation. Do you know about ovulation, sir?

29:58Ronnie Karam: Have we talked about ovulation? It's like doing a backbend over his chair, scooter. so Yvonne's like well wait a minute are you and Frank having sex and she's like no and she's like but why why aren't you having sex with the milkman she's like I mean said he wants to take it slow but wait are you trying to have a relationship with the milkman no then why are you hanging out with this milkman who doesn't want to have sex with you Lindsay and then I was like oh my god Lindsay is going to kill you for this yeah yeah exactly I think Lindsay's just like I want to see what he's like in bed and I'm going to wait a little bit.

30:36It's like, I don't have to like. She does not want to be grilled. Yeah, she does not. She's like, well, I do have a fun time with him. Like, we got off to like a very serious start. And then like, he's been showing a more fun side. Like, you know, the other day we made pasta together and he almost smiled. So like, you know. And Yvonne's like, but you told me you wanted to have sex with this guy. She's like, yeah, but like. Yvonne, you're allowed to like put in the time to get that booty. It's like, okay, it's not the end of the world. Like, she doesn't need to have like sex with him like right away.

31:03Like we've all done that before where you're like, okay, I'm going to go on a few dates with this person. I have no real interest in them. I just want to see how this will turn out, you know?

31:13Ronnie Karam: Well, so Frank is from Central Casting. I mean, come on. Frank is like some reality wannabe who's like clearly making the rounds and coming from Central Casting. Just like the country guy. He's like a TV guy, you know? So she's like, um, what seems to be that problem, Yvonne? Okay. you can't just walk outside and be like hi i'm gonna like fuck you and uh then the the snooper is like free milk see the guy said free milk and yvonne's like free milk are you gonna get free milk like no i just the best i love that the snooper heard so much of the conversation that he's like free milk so yvonne's like i just feel like i'm seeing a pattern with you like you meet the guy.

31:59They're in a fun category. Lindsay's like not even paying attention. She's like, hello, are you paying attention? She's like, sorry, this like fucking grandpa's like really stressing me out right now.

32:12This guy just sitting in on the conversation. Free milk.

32:16Ronnie Karam: Free milk. Lexi's like, I don't understand the issue, Yvonne. It's casual. She's like, well, I mean, I'm just looking out for Lindsay because you have a tendency to give more of yourself when somebody's not giving you what you actually want, Lindsay. And that's the problem. And Yvonne's saying, you know, I've been on her side through every breakup for 15 years. She sucks at picking out guys. And she just really jumps right into a relationship. And I'm here that she's looking for something light. But I know Lindsay. And deep down, she just wants her person. Yeah. I feel like this is going to send Lindsay into the arms of Danielle and then Yvonne's going to be the odd woman out.

32:53So Lindsay's like, Yeah, it seems like you just have some weird beef with this guy. She's like, I do not have a weird beef with the milkman. She's like, I just think he's weird. And he is weird. But like you said, he's from Central Casting, and he's probably her storyline for the season. So she's like, just give it a rest. Let me do my story. Commercials.

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36:08Ronnie Karam: The dad comes and hugs him from behind. And Kenny is like, wow, you're a little older. but I guess you looked okay that's it that's it like bye we're done here you've already you've already talked about how old I looked once this is it yeah so they're talking and Larry is happy because he's like he's at peace now because all he wants to know is that his kid is okay and doing okay in life and safe and now he knows so he feels he feels he feels good and then Kenny's let's know that his mom died and so Larry feels really bad that he couldn't have been there to console his son when that happened it's like actually really sad um but it is like you said it is a lovely scene despite the fact that it centers kenny um it's a very lovely scene between the two yeah both the dad scenes i was like but then um i stopped myself when like we said earlier when he was like i just couldn't find you for all this 25 years i was like i was like oh well this was such a this episode ended on such like a lovely sweet note i was like this is actually a really nice way to end the episode.

37:14And it's like, well, guess what? We got another thing coming because there's one more segment left.

37:19Ronnie Karam: I mean, I knew it was coming and I still felt like it was over because you're right. That did feel like, okay, what a nice show. Bye. But nope, we go back to Amanda's apartment and she's talking to Reese. Guess who's coming over? Your daddy. And she's like, he's already going to be like your apartment sometimes. Yeah. Because then we cut to a bathtub full of shit. which that's your own place listen in your own place do what you want i don't care right i mean but go ahead and by the way one thing that i think we sort of uh accidentally uh missed but i stuck out to me when it happened was that when amanda was with her dad she was saying how now that she has her own new place she can start fresh and like it can be clean and she can keep it clean and i was like you were sadly mistaken it doesn't work me at all It doesn't.

38:14I'm someone who does accumulate clutter, but I also take care of it. It builds up, and then eventually I go, and then I donate it all. But the point is, you're either a clean person or you're not, and we people who do collect clutter just have to accept you're a clutter person. It doesn't matter what space you're in. It's just going to keep on accumulating. Yeah.

38:37Ronnie Karam: So Kyle brought her a dress. He's like, is this for Ivana and Nick's party? I brought what you asked me for but you know look I guess I assumed that you were going to take more stuff just because you had a moving company and everything. She's like oh but I don't have enough space to take everything with me here. U-Haul does. U-Haul storage does. It's called storage because you also don't have enough space in the other place either and that didn't seem to stop you. So like storage it's called storage like every other adult. This is a sick burn and he I don't think he means it to me, but he's like, well, I mean, you know, the one thing I was excited about was actually feeling like I have a home again.

39:18Ronnie Karam: She's like, she gets so pissed, which I was like, Kyle, oh my god, how can you always come up with the exact wrong thing to say? Yeah, and so Amanda, because I think he means specifically like a house. Yeah, but because he says a home, home is different. You don't think she's going to be like, oh, really? now that I'm not there it's not a home and of course she goes and your home doesn't include me in it or any of my stuff and Kyle's like well it's like you can't be mad that you chose to leave so Amanda's like fine I'll hire movers again and take all my shit out of the apartment and I'll just have it sitting here is that what you want me to do yeah yeah you're a dumbass that you already hired people and you didn't take all your stuff out like I'm sorry that was a big mistake on your part It's so rude.

40:11Ronnie Karam: And just the entitlement of, oh, I guess I have to have it all here. Get a fucking rent space to put it in. Why are you such a child? Storage. My God. And he's like, well, I'm not trying to, like, rush you. And she goes, well, that's what it sounds like. Like, you're already upset that my initial move, I didn't take enough of my stuff. I'm like, the whole plan is that this is a temporary move. It's a year-long move. Get your shit out of my house, you fucking cheating liar. Get it out. yeah exactly because if it was like temporary if it was truly temporary you would have gotten an airbnb and like just taken your essentials um and the whole story of like oh this is you know this whole thing with west it wasn't cheating because i had already left kyle no because you left but then you keep saying over and over that it's uh temporary right well i guess we'll probably see on this season when it goes from being temporary to permanent.

41:10But Kyle is like, well, I think you had thought you had articulated a plan, and I think I was just confused, and I thought that'd be more like, I don't know. It's like, well, maybe if you were around at all, like, oh, if you were around, you would have understood the plan more. Doesn't

41:25Ronnie Karam: make any sense. See, so she knows that she's wrong, so guess what she's going to do? You were cheating on me, and then do you want to talk anymore about what happened on Sunday? And he's like, oh well I felt horrible how it left off like you're bringing strangers back to our home like what are you doing okay I don't have to listen to you yell at me anymore yeah that's the thing why is he even over there just don't even go over there yeah honestly like you don't like I really don't understand why she didn't get an Airbnb I think that if it's a temporary thing if it's only a month you get an Airbnb and it's really simple and it's really easy and the fact that she went apartment hunting and then oops it was a year long lease that is the actions are saying something way different than what she is saying so she's like you're hanging out with strangers like drunk like that's the shit that I can't handle you had fans at home while I'm asleep so then leave him you're already out the door stop complaining and just move forward yeah I mean he's like they were nice guys and it was a friend of someone I knew a guy and a girl that's crazy and he's like well oh god so he's asking us like i mean at this juncture do i owe her updates on where i am or who i'm with i don't know the protocol i'm just the loneliest extrovert in the world and he's like listen i'm acting out because i'm going crazy and i'm dealing with stress at work and you don't even care she's like i'm dealing with stress in our marriage so why am i gonna ask how work is that's exactly it you selfish fucking nutcase my god so she only care about what you're thinking and what you're going through you know and i'm totally on her side for leaving kyle and she's still making me this crazy my god yeah he's like the call that i was having when you're moving out was for a five million dollar check and then she does this totally condescending thing where she like claps like congratulations i'm like yeah yeah this is a big deal this this This has been such a stress on him and your entire marriage.

43:29And like, what is bankrolling this apartment? I mean, I know she's got some money from the TV show and everything, and maybe some influencing, but like, are we going to act for a moment like that? You're not going to benefit from that$5 million, potential$5 million.

43:44Ronnie Karam: I mean, if they're, if they said their thing was, their debt was 4 million. So if he gets, if he gets that$5 million, that can get him completely in the clear. it would solve the whole show's plot basically for him yeah it's like whatever congratulations she's acting like he was like on the phone closing a deal on like a used lexus that he was like looking for on ebay so but like no like a five million dollar business deal that would that could possibly save the company that she is also you know involved in like i don't know i just it was so dismissive in a way that like i was just like oh lady you you're you're losing this so badly and it's such it's such an unforcer it's just and yeah it's just such a clear win for you that you're just sucking at like you're terrible so uh he's like you don't give a fuck you don't give a fuck i'm in debt you don't care about the business that i've worked tirelessly for it's like why would i care when you constantly put me down and like i get it she's like sick of lover boy She's sick of Loverboy being this other entity in their marriage.

44:52And all he does is pay attention to Loverboy. So like, we get it. We get it. And that's why we're happy that you're leaving him. But like, this is sort of a significant thing. And to be like, okay, whatever. I was like, no, it actually made me realize that you don't see a future. Because if you did, you would care. And ask questions. Like, how was your week? How are you dealing with the stress? And you've never asked me a single question during these two months where we're trying to repair the marriage. And she's like, but you want me to ask questions, but you can't stop fucking drinking and staying out late?

45:20Like, I'm for fucking bid. I want my husband to come home and not see something on the internet the next day.

45:26Ronnie Karam: Oh, geez. So here we go. So he points out something wrong. So then here she comes with the. You did something 10 years ago. He's like, I acted out. She's like, well, you've been acting out for 10 years. Like, were you acting out when you cheated on me and had sex with someone else? that was before you were married 10 years ago get something fresh I literally you married him after that yeah that was your exit ramp that was your exit before the toll station so Kyle's like I'll never let that down I just don't understand and Amanda's like and then there was a time before that he was at this party with a bunch of people I'm getting DMs from the girl herself saying Kyle's very handsome basically the producer's like you didn't tell anyone she's like I'm embarrassed so Kyle's like, you literally hold everything over my head.

46:17She goes, well, it's hard to put the past behind us when you keep doing the same shit.

46:22Ronnie Karam: Well, geez, you should leave him. So, Amanda's like, yeah, well, you know, he says, what point do you meet in the middle? I mean, I thought not doing anything on one of the most fun weekends in New York City, focusing on us. She's like, I was moving the next day, Kyle, and it's overwhelming, and it's emotional for me. I'm sorry I wasn't at the marathon drinking all that well you weren't packing what were you doing you know well I had friends asking to come over and help me back and my mom was like offering and then you you're out till nine in the morning like I don't know what you know you're out from nine a.m.

46:58Ronnie Karam: to two o 'clock in the morning like I mean I know what you want different from me and my fear is that you're not capable of doing what I need from his ask of you is just to not leave your shit everywhere and it's literally a mountain of shit and i'm so sorry but you broke up with me i'm not gonna help you move i've said it i'm not gonna help nine times today this is literally crazy this conversation the irony is that he is not actually he actually is helping her pack and he's actually paying to help her pack it's just the stuff that she didn't take he's actually being very helpful he's organizing that shit he's getting it he's getting it put into wherever it's getting put into like she should be very thankful that he's actually doing this and taking on the expense yeah and by the way she's wearing her boys lie shirt it's like oh god shut up well god god i love that amanda patchoula thanks everyone for being here that's the end of the episode um we'll see how this relationship continues to crumble and fall apart next week uh but in the meantime Let's move on to some people who are a little bit less toxic.

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