#3432 RHOA S17E13: Kilt or Be Kilt

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1:28Hello and welcome to Watch What Crappens, a podcast about all that crap on Bravo that we just love to talk about. I'm Ben Mandelker and joining me today is the one and only Ronnie Garam. Hi Ronnie. How is it going?

1:42Ronnie Karam: Well, hello, bineans. Good. What's going on with you? Not much. You know, just excited to kick off yet another week here on Watch What Crappens. What is there to say? It was a fun weekend. Lots of good TV happened over the weekend. And Love Island was completely bonkers. House the Dragon, also another strong episode. And today we're talking Atlanta. House the Dragon will be, like last week, we'll have it up probably tomorrow. And today it's Atlanta and later on Rhode Island. And then we also have our Amazon Live. Thanks to everyone who joined us last week for our two Prime Day episodes. Today we are back at our normal time and schedule, which is, of course, at 1.30 p.m.

2:27Pacific time, 4.30 East Coast time. Come join us. We are going to be talking about some stuff. I'm going to be giving a full report about the lamp I bought last week. That's exciting.

2:38Ronnie Karam: I'm going to be making cookies. If that's not enticing. Oh, you are. That's fun. I'm going to be making peanut butter chocolate chip cookies. Lucky. I'm going to be sitting here without cookies. I'll be holding a lamp. um by the way it was really funny i like took a picture of the lamp that i bought and i went to send it to you like check out this lamp it looks amazing and i sent it to a totally random person instead so uh yeah that's what happened oh yeah i never got a lamp picture what the hell i know because i realized i sent it to i sent it to someone else entirely and she was like okay um i'll send it to you i'll text it you might as well call me sheena because i just got robbed you did um okay let's talk about real housewives of atlanta shall we um it's time for the big cast season 17 episode 13 kilts chaos and reads yes kilts chaos and reads well of course by the way brand new newsletter is out courtesy of ronnie it's on patreon.com slash watch for crappins free to all you don't even have to be a patreon member but if you are a member you also get access to our video ad free listening weekly bonus episode last week we did a trailer breakdown of the new uh orange county trailer season 20 which is uh going to premiere next week so check that out also by the way we have a great youtube channel so be sure to subscribe to it because we put up all sorts of clips and fun stuff there so anyway back to the matter at hand which is kills chaos and reads in Atlanta in Scotland.

4:17So we're headed there to Scotland. So that way Portia and Phaedra can relive their traders' experiences this time with the entire cast of Atlanta.

4:26Ronnie Karam: You know when one of your friends goes to like, let's say Italy or something, and then they come back and then you're going to go maybe one time. And they're like, oh my God, you got to go here and you got to go here and you got to go here. And you go to the places and it's like some shitty little pizza place at an airport. but because they went there it's so exciting in their minds that they make everybody else go there that's what these trips to scotland are like like i'm glad you had fun why do i have to come because you were on traders that was one of your memories you know i don't make you like hide m &ms in your belly button and eat them in the middle of the night to get some sadistic joy that you tricked everybody because that's what I enjoy.

5:10I just have to assume that maybe Scotland is giving some sort of like subsidized travel to NBC Peacock at this point. Yeah. Like bring your people over for free.

5:22Ronnie Karam: I like this gas. They go over to Scotland and they're like, ew, the weather's gross. When is it sunny? And they're like, it's Scotland. It's like, yeah, but literally half our clothes are bikinis. So. like really this is like last year we got to go to the caribbean this year we get to go to damp but um i mean i would love to go to scotland i would love love love to go but you can just sort of see they're like oh great i think like a lot of the real housewives they love when they get to go to like sunny locales for their vacations not cloudy ones i don't even know when this was filming was this filming in what was atlanta filming you think i don't know i don't I don't keep dabs.

6:07I have actually no idea. No idea when it was filming. Probably the fall. Anyway, Pedro's saying that she loves Scotland because of the traders. She goes, I had a wonderful experience. And it was very iconic. So then we see one of her great moments of her saying to Peter, what you might have forgotten, Peter, is that this is not The Bachelor. And I don't have to kiss your ass for a rose. It's like, ah, the glory days. yeah. Portia, however, is just a dust cloud.

6:36Ronnie Karam: Well, I just got red. Okay. And then Portia was on, too, and she was like, Portia was also one of the traitors, and it wasn't the same experience. It's like, hi, Portia. Bye, Portia. Hey! Poor Portia. So Portia is like, she's going to make the best of this experience. Because also, she says, It's for my girl's birthday Because it's Phaedra's birthday And so they're going to celebrate in Scotland So they all arrive It's 56 degrees In Scotland and rainy And the driver's like This is normal weather for here And then Shamia's like I'm a little bit nervous about going to this cold climate I want to make sure I don't get cold And then she of course has a giant heating pad That she puts on her lap Because she's wacky and full of prop comedy She's the Carrot Top of Atlanta In her confessional.

7:32Ronnie Karam: She's like, I'm not going to get cold. This is my heating pad. I could put it on my lap. I could throw it on a chair. Look, I'm skiing on a heating pad. You're trying hard on the heating pad. I know. At this point, I want the heating pad to be the eighth housewife on this show, not Shamia. So the heating pad is like, I may be flat, but I'm also hot. Because I'm a heating pad. So Phaedra is saying that she's like, Scotland is the perfect place for my birthday. I may seem like a warm person, but I'm always coiled. Just because I can heat you up doesn't mean I'm not cold.

8:23Ronnie Karam: Heating pad is to work out in my life. Please keep me out of Shamiya scenes. i may i may get into bed with you but i'm not a slut i don't know heating pad you got to work on that one let's stop slut shaming heating pads while we're at it world so kelly asks are there black people in scotland maybe is there a hood in scotland and angie what i was just saying i don't know oh i literally don't know druids um so angie says that they are in the land of the traitors she says this is freaking freck spot and so pinky is like i pray that scotland that we're catching a new wind and all the ladies can kumbaya and really just do a hard reset the group needs to file a friend bankruptcy okay pinky one thing that you and many others before you have to know is that there has never been a vacation in the history of the real housewives that has ever brought any of the women closer together even faux moments of solidarity like on this very show when cynthia bailey had everyone cast little flames into a river or something i think it may be in greece it's all fake and these trips do nothing but tear you guys apart and you just have to accept that that's what they're made for get with it i love that pinky just knows her role on this show and what she's gonna do is she's gonna say the lady the ladies need to get along and she's gonna mention bankruptcy and or veganism that's it that's all she's gonna do like pinky could you introduce scotland well i'll tell you what it it better not be scot meatland because i'm not having is their vegan haggis.

10:18So they arrive at Girmuthen House, which was built in 1650. And it's like a big old house. It's like the Trader's Castle, but it's not. Which, by the way, nothing says going to bring the group together than recreating the vibe and experience of the Traders. So Cynthia is like, it's super fabulous. But it definitely gives one of those places where a bunch of rich people come and then somebody gets murdered. Well, I was like, the good news is there are several people who are not rich on your cast that are here. So we're already bucking against the trends.

10:50Ronnie Karam: Yeah. I find it funny that in America, they have to put it in the contract, like the house contract, if somebody has died in that house. Like that's a thing, you know, at least in some states. They have to report it because people are so afraid to be somewhere that people have died. And here you're going to some places from 1650, like thousands of people have died there oh my god just like like generic deaths to consumption you know yeah i was gonna say is there like a black plague warning on the real on the realty you know you know there's a bunch of scarlet fever deaths uh just like yeah the girl from down abbey deaths you know there's all kinds of shit going on there and in america we're like That house is more than 20 years old.

11:41Ronnie Karam: If somebody's died there, I won't even go in. That's ridiculous. And here's like, it's 1650. We used to burn witches in this living room. Have a good evening. By the way, there's no central air or cable. Okay. Well, it's like the real housewives themselves. If you're like 31 and you're being like a total bitch, it's like, okay, you know what? Shut up. But then if you're like 48 to 74 and being a total bitch on these shows, it's like icon amazing so once you age into it once you age into it then we love all the bad shit yeah once you age into it it's like oh my god did you hear what happened in your bedroom it's 10 people died here but it was like centuries ago so it's amazing it's hot um botulism botulism hit this capital uh this uh castle it was ugly god they've really gotten good with carpet cleaners haven't they oh yeah we haven't changed this uh since everyone got botulism all over the carpet why would you it's a classic god it must suck to be a ghost that's stuck in like a 1984 ranch home or something like that split level ranch it's like what i want to haunt a i want to haunt like a giant mansion in scotland it's like sorry you're just gonna you're just gonna haunt this suburban tract home until it actually gets demolished and then you're just gonna float around the neighborhood that's the best you can do yeah because our ghosts i feel like our ghosts over here are so boring and they're just mean you know everyone's like oh my god a ghost is like chasing me or it's trying to kill me and i feel like ghosts over there are like welcome to the house that's the needlepoint section over there that's the botulism carpet.

13:26Ronnie Karam: Just make yourself comfortable. They're all casting judgment on us over there. They're all sitting around like, oh, look. More Americans coming to visit. They all have British accents. Oh, look. The nouveau dead. Newvo dead.

13:47Ronnie Karam: So they talk about how fabulous this is. And there is a black Scot here. and they're trying to decide whether or not he looks like Idris Elba. And the producer asked Kelly, does he remind you of a certain ex, Idris Elba? She was like, hell no. He's a nice looking African-American buff man. He ain't nowhere near no Idris. Like, did you say African-American? Because he's Scottish. She's like, black is black. We're all the same. Whatever. So then there's a lady up on like a balcony who is like going to town on a bagpipe. And Cynthia's like, do you hear that banjo? She's just projecting deliverance onto this place.

14:31And then Shamia gets out and starts doing Shamia dancing to the bagpipe, of course. And Shamia's like, now she's dancing in her confessional. And she's like, I was like, okay, I feel Jesus in this place. Okay, I hear you, God. I'm like, oh, Shamia, stop. Okay, so then this guy's name is Torgy.

14:50Ronnie Karam: You're crying harder than the bagpipe lady. the bagpipe lady is like the opposite of a black scott she is the whitest lady ever she's like all right we're ready to get down with some bagpipes ladies

15:04Ronnie Karam: she is having to time get me an ipod get me an alexa that can just play play some 80s pop music at this point i get that we're going with the theme here but get out so lady so we have torgy torgy is our tour guide i mean it's in the name basically and um he is actually like a famous i guess um influencer his whole thing is that he is a black scottish guy and he's also buff and handsome and hot so he has a big following and so um everyone's like oh torgy hello yeah they call him scottish beef on tiktok he's at star boys obers fitness so it's a good way to get about there go to the gym new follow coming in soon um he's hot he really is hot and the accent is like it's really charming on him um so uh he is there and they're all like wow um so uh they are all fawning over him as is i imagine a lot of the audience and pinky is like he's fine don't tell my husband i was like oh um shamia is like i have followed torgy for quite some time because i didn't even realize that they had black scots but seeing him in the flesh and around these women oh my god so page was like he reminds me of sterling k brown dipped in chocolate the point is that they're all basically salivating over and it goes on for a little bit.

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18:16Ronnie Karam: So then Portia and Phaedra go check out the house to see what the best rooms are and stuff. And she's like, this is like the trader's house. And it kind of gets like that white ghost that comes out at night. Like, I think this is the best place for everybody. So they look at bedrooms and Torgy saves the best for last. But the first bedroom is also really big and nice. So at the table, the other ladies are talking about who was in whose car. And Kelly's like, oh, Cynthia, what did you find out from Phaedra and Portia in your car? And she's like, well, I wasn't able to get much, but expect the unexpected.

18:53So they're big brother. Yep.

18:55Ronnie Karam: that's big brother cynthia wrong game show cynthia so uh pinky is talking about shimmy asks pinky how her movie is coming along this is actually funny because shimmy is like hey how's the movie coming and pinky's like oh it's going good we finalized the budget and we're gonna move forward with shimmy being trina one of the main characters on the show so i'm like did shimmy already know that? Was she setting up her own flowers there? Was this... I mean, why would Shamia say, hey, how's that movie going? Oh, it's great. We've decided to go forward with you. Unless this was a typo. Unless, accidentally, this was not Shamia who said it, but it just feels weird that Shamia would set up Pinky to announce that Shamia got the role in her TV show.

19:43So she's like, oh my god, thank you.

19:46Ronnie Karam: Thank you. Emmy incoming. And Angela's not cheering. and everybody else does and angela's like well i think we should all do a cameo and they're like yeah you're not getting in on this shamia has worked hard for this did you not just see her prop work with a heating pad in the confessional yes okay she she put in her time at stella schmadler okay so um everyone's angela's like aiming for this cameo honestly you probably have more success just doing an actual cameo than trying to have a cameo on Pinky's project. But Pinky's like, yeah, and Pinky's like, you can stream it on whatever platform we'll be on.

20:34Ronnie Karam: So, thank you and good night. Well, there you have it. YouTube, I look forward to visiting you. So they're joking that Phaedra should be in it, because that'd be funny, and she could play an attorney, and Pinky He's like, but Ellen, she's your attorney now, right, Kelly? And Kelly's like, yes. Although the judge signed off on, you know, I do have all major decision making. I can't film with my daughters. So Phaedra reached out to me and actually offered her services. So if you're wondering why my daughters aren't here in Scotland, that's why. It's because my ex won't allow me to bring them to Scotland to film.

21:11Why my kids are in Scotland.

21:14Ronnie Karam: So she talks about how grateful she is. And Drew's like, oh, did I hear that you say you moved too? And she's like, well, I did, you know, because after that whole situation with the neighbor, let's not even talk about it. It was crazy. She was stalking me. She was she was basically stalking me. And don't Google it. Don't Google it. But if you do, you're going to see that the first thing that pops up is HOATPO, temporary protection order. and we see the headline Kelly Farrell hit with temporary restraining order after allegedly breaking into neighbor's home and being physically restrained as she speaks out so Kelly is like thank god Shamia allowed me and my girls and my dog and my turtles and my new teeth to stay in her town home thank you so much and Cynthia is like well just so you know we've all been through it you are not alone for instance Portia sort of had the storyline last season when she wasn't allowed to film with her kids.

22:15So we understand where you've been through. So please don't hesitate to call on any of us. We may not answer, but feel free to call.

22:22Ronnie Karam: Yeah, Cynthia's like, girl, if I could just tell you all the times that I've gone to my HOA's home and physically attacked them. Yeah, I haven't done that. I haven't done that. But it's a good story. It's a good story. And Kelly's like, well, you know, thanks. It's just really hard to be vulnerable because the moment that something happens, it's like thrown back in my face. And Angela's like, well, I agree, but it's a little hypocritical because I'm the least represented here. I have the least support at times here. Angela's ready to make a scene. By the way, can we walk that back a little bit?

22:57When has Kelly been vulnerable and it was thrown in her face on this show? I don't seem to really remember that actually ever happening. Unless I'm forgetting something.

23:07Ronnie Karam: I think what she's saying is she has talked about her marriage and then her husband has like sued and said oh like he's defaming her and stuff so she's like i'm trying to i think that's what she's saying it's like i'm trying to be vulnerable on the show but then that anything i say gets pulled into court oh okay because i took it that she was saying that it gets thrown back by the other women which is clearly how angela took it as well because she's like what are you talking about you've got you've got allies i don't have allies. And Pinky is like, what are you talking about? You're not represented.

23:41And they're like, well, yeah, what are you saying? She's like, well, I don't have people chiming in on my behalf. Which is not totally true, because Drew is there, and Drew actually jumps in right now. And Drew's like, well, I may try to be an advocate for her. You know, I try to help her, you know, to maybe get you guys to understand what she's saying, because I think it's no secret that we have each other's back when it's necessary. And you know, Shamia was losing her mind, because Shamia hates that Drew called her a lapdog, and here's Drew basically saying, yeah, well, I will advocate for Angela, so that way you guys understand her more.

24:16But I'm not a lapdog.

24:17Ronnie Karam: Yeah, and Kelly's like, well, let me just say this to Angela. Even when I had the event at Williams-Sonoma, and that situation transpired, and we see a flashback of that messy guy being like, cheers, if your name is Angela and your husband's cheating on you. he sure tried it i don't like that they even showed his face again i think they should have just like shown him blurred out yeah she says i made sure that individual was taken out immediately so i just want to let you know that i still protect you she's like no because that's not true because you immediately said you thought i had something to do with it she's like well did I think it's weird?

24:59I mean, absolutely. And Angela's like, whatever. So now they go on a little

25:04Ronnie Karam: tour. I don't know. I still think you look kind of guilty for having that guy show up at your event so comfortably and just walking up to everybody. So I don't know about this whole... I was there to help you. I was there to save you. And Kelly's like, well, did I think it was weird? Yes, I did. And now we see room tours and there's some rooms that have a shared bathroom and so Portia and Phaedra are like wow those people need synergy and Phaedra's like no let's put people by each other that don't like each other yeah nothing brings peace by sharing a shitter with somebody yeah always back at the table they're still talking about this guy and so Angela's like well for anyone to assume that I did it that was blasphemy Cynthia's like well why would you do it It's always the why for me The why That's how we felt many times When you were married to Peter Thomas Why Why Cynthia The why for us Shamia says well when we were in Nashville You came out yelling at the pool Fuck Charles And Angela's like no no no That's not what I said And Shamia's like am I lying Did she say that And Angela's like, let's talk about that then.

26:23Ronnie Karam: What were you saying about Charles? I said, I don't know Angela. I've never met Angela. I've met Charles several times. That's it. And what you did. She's like, I work for the NBA. And you know that because you can't stop talking about me in the NBA. But what do I want to talk about, Angela, is why you feel the need to try and investigate me so bad. I've had two people come up to me in my workplace. And you don't need to look at her for validation. Stop looking at Drew. and you don't need to do all that. This is the shit I'm talking about. And two people came up to me in my place of work and asked me, what's wrong with you and Angela?

26:58Ronnie Karam: What work is she talking about? What workplace and also like, is that, why is that investigating? I mean, I feel like if there are people who, like you're a public persona and if people know Angela and they know that you guys aren't getting along and you guys haven't been getting along for a while, I don't think that's like, I think it's messy on those people's parts. I don't think this is like, oh, Angela's investigating you, Shamia, and she's having minions go and track you down across the city. Like, that's such a, to me, an overblown situation. I think it's probably Angela talked to some people and was like, oh, yeah, Shamia's the worst.

27:37She's messy. She probably slept with half the NBA people. and then you know messy people go and like find shamia at whatever this quote-unquote workplace is and are like what's going on with you and angela because people do that all the time people try to start shit between people all the time and like that's just people being messy i don't think it's like angela like hatching an investigation into you shamia well it also depends on where

28:01Ronnie Karam: she's working because is she talking about the radio show doesn't she do that radio show So if people are coming up to you at the radio show, it's because they interview all these people. So they're like, oh, this is the gossip of the year. You have a problem with Angela. So I don't know. But this is not an episode to stand up for Angela either, because Angela does some crazy shit in this episode. It's like, what the hell? It's really nasty. So Angela's like, anything I want to know, I can know on my own. I don't need any help. And she's like, well, then why do you keep digging? so um phaedra and porsha come back down while they're still arguing and shami is like this lady's calling around to everybody saying uh that she's seen me photographed and with that she knows and asks him do you have any dirt on shami oh she she goes around to anybody i've been in a picture with and was like do you have any dirt on shamiya do you have any dirt on shamiya and shami is like so then shamiya does this whole like well i walked through the valley of the shadow of death blah blah blah blah she does this whole sort of like performative you know famous famous prayer and then uh she's like and i it just is like the way the way that shamiya grates on me and it's is so it's so impressive how much she grates on me especially considering i was very pro shamiya last season the way that switch up happened for me the 180 is kind of it's like shocking and just i feel like every interview is just so try hard it's like do you think that she'll get another season after this because i feel like this is a common sentiment among the viewers i have no idea i don't she'll probably say she quit she can't take it because she's already doing the like the rounds of oh it's so difficult with everybody against me and i can't do anything and everybody's coming for me all the time make me look like the villain if you must make me look like and here's the thing i mean shamia has some i think solid gripes here with angela angela's acting looney tunes at least from what we find out in this episode and shamia still is obnoxious enough that people don't go against angela just like whatever yeah uh so phaedra is saying who is they and shamia is like they asked me not to say and angela's like we'll put it on the table then, okay?

30:24Ronnie Karam: No, tell them how I'm friends with those people. Go ahead. She's like, oh, yeah, he gave money to your event last year, Angela, so that's how you know he knows me, and that's why I don't respect you. So now we're getting somewhere. And Phaedra's like, well, does she have any dirt on you? And Angela says, well, you just claimed this to be an investigation. She goes, well, I know you're asking around, and I would like for you to stop. Well, me asking George, oh, come on, I can't even talk to George anymore. So here comes George into the conversation. so this is George he was the guy we saw earlier this season this like lawyer who has the green beard and Angela is like George and I have seen each other in the company of Shamia that's my neighbor and when I spoke to my neighbors I just wanted to make sure it was okay to bring up Shamia's name and I can't even go to my HOA meetings anymore because anytime I speak to my neighbors it's an investigation

31:22Ronnie Karam: so uh so angela goes up to i'm seeing if i have a picture in here because i took one and i was cracking up so she goes to the neighbor of george who is like one of those get did you get in a car crash call george like he says guys and because he brought a big you know publishers publisher clearinghouse style check to shamiya as a donation now angela is making it sound like shamiya fucked him for that donation yeah so shamiya's like go ahead i know you've been asking if i've been fucking george and she's like well i'm sorry i know george okay yeah so angela is trying to get this whole thing with george and shamiya and then uh which we find out like me laugh so hard and she He goes, girl, just say what's on your mind, okay?

32:14Ronnie Karam: And Angela goes, girl, did you fuck George? Everyone's like, what? Jimmy is like, unlike you, I don't have to fuck to the top. And George is like, yes, I'm the top. Yeah, George is very excited that he got placed above the Rhode Island HVAC king. So Angela's like, George is the one who said he had to pay you when he met you. She's like, I don't even know what you're talking about. and Cynthia's telling us, so the bodies that Angela is putting on Shamia, like, what happened to the Hawks and the Falcons? How did we get to George? Which is true. I kind of think if you, if Shamia were being as promiscuous as Angela was saying, and she's like, getting that NFL and NBA D, why would she go to George?

33:05Just stay in that lane. That's like an amazing lane to be in.

33:09Ronnie Karam: Shamia's saying, Well, y 'all just listened to her call me a whore, pretty much. And say I was cheating on my man with George. Can we all agree that she said that? And Angela's like, I'm just going off of him saying he paid you. And Cynthia's like, wait, was it a donation that he paid? Or did he pay pay? She's like, he donated to breast cancer. For Christ's sake. And we see him giving the big check. And Angela's like, well, if Shamia's talking, she's lying. He pulled her up and was like, she's so fine, I had to pay her. Is that what you say when you donate to charity? Do you go to Goodwill? Do you go to somebody, pull you up and say, you're so fine, I had to take your clothes?

33:48No. Also, another question is, do you dye your beard green if you're trying to practice the law? So I think logic is out of the window with this guy. I mean, clearly to me, this guy was cracking a joke. I'm like, well, of course I had to donate to her charity. She's so fine. I would do anything she would tell me to do. That is a far cry from saying, she's so fine, I had to pay her to have sex with me. like the fact that angela's being such she's not even being a literalist she's actually she's being a literalist and she's adding a whole component that was never even stated

34:25Ronnie Karam: she's just doing a lot of lying here and this is you know this isn't fun angela like you're a fun housewife but you don't need to resort to like making up lies about people it's so stupid um you don't need to but thank you it was funny very funny i was cracking up and also just how she puts it. You go to Goodwill. Does somebody pull you up and say, you're so fine, I had to take your clothes? How does that even make any sense? But in Angela's mind, it's like, yep, that's, it's proof, people. It's proof. And Pinky's like, well, where's George at? I could use a donation. And Shamia's like, well, I just started investigating you today.

35:01Ronnie Karam: And here's my findings. Can you please let your pants meet your shoes at some point? And then we see that she's taking a picture of Angela's pants being short. Really? She just said that you fucked George with the green beard and you're coming back with your feet big and your pants are too short. Because Shamia thinks her way in to rattle Angela is to make comments incessantly about her feet. I guess them either being big or not properly connected to the pants. Et cetera, et cetera. Shamia just is she has an opening here to actually you know like she could take the moral high ground here or she could actually be like oh and have the women gather around her like Angela that was too far but she just is not equipped for these moments she waits for a feet for a feet comet so then that gets everybody on Angela's side and Portia's like Shimia you're getting very defensive and I cracked it up again I cracked up again because the woman just said she's fucking the guy with the green beard.

36:11Ronnie Karam: The woman has a husband and children. And then Angela's out here accusing her of fucking somebody for a breast cancer check. And they're like, hey, don't call her Big Feet. Or even imply it. So Cynthia says, you know, in Dallas, Angela, you kept saying that I'm causing division in the group. and then Cynthia's like yeah well it wasn't just Angela I'm like uh-oh this is bad now you got Cynthia jumping in against you that's not good so Shamia's like well that's kind of fucked up she's well a lot of us but like when you're good then you're good and the ladies that that are closest to you seem to be good but when you're not you're not and so Cynthia's like well you know even if Shamia's name came up like you would get like super defensive Pinky and Pinky's like what and Kelly Kelly's telling us the fact that you want to take this whole friend and turn it into a lap dog or a puppet master oh no that's not Kelly this is Kelly the fact that you want to take this whole friend and turn it into a lap dog or puppet master no bitch I'm a friend like maybe you guys should try it and Kay Michelle's like ain't no I in team but it is an idiot and I'm not following any of these ladies and Shamia can't lead me nowhere but to the mall and she'd stay in the mall and every time you call Shamia issues at somebody's store.

37:33K. Michelle just on a whole different show, responding to different questions and allegations. Just taking it to a different place. Like, okay. I actually love K. Michelle on the show. I know there are a lot of people who don't like her.

37:46Ronnie Karam: That girl's in a go-round if I ever seen it. I mean, where was that girl coming at me from? A Cinnabon? She sold the A in Sbarro. That's what I say. Now we just got stuck with an S and a B right next to each other. Who does that? I don't do that. I'll tell you that much. I'll tell you where the A is. It's an ain't. As in, I don't, I ain't spell that. This fight's older than a curtain rod chain in a cospless world market. Whatever happened to KB Toys, okay? I became K. Michelle. I'm not KB because KB annoyed that KB Toys are gone. Just ongoing commentary about mall shops. Claire's. I never met Claire, but I already know I don't like her.

38:29Ronnie Karam: so Cynthia's like I feel like you have the power to bring us together Shamia and she's like oh oh wow thanks wow that was hilarious pandering and and uh Shamia's like Cynthia actually that role is more fitting for you aren't you the friend that straddles the fence or have you tilted the scale. So Cynthia's like, okay, whatever. Kelly's like, oh my god, look at Kay, she's looking for a jet to holiday flight right out of here, a current reference. I mean, if any one of these girls has been accused of sleeping with a married man, it would have been made an issue. But now that it's happening to Shamia, everybody wants to brush it off.

39:11Ronnie Karam: Shamia's rich as hell. I wouldn't want no woman to lose that type of money. I don't know what Shamia would do if she got kicked up out of that house. You can't live in structure. So now she's defending Shamia. Before she was like, uh-uh, I don't follow Shamia. Shamia's hurt me. And she spends all her time at the mall. And then it's like, how dare they make fun of Shamia? She has a family. She's right, though. These people are nuts. They're like, wow, why is Shamia reacting just because someone said her husband is cheating? Or she's cheating on her husband. Crazy. I think that actually speaks to the fact that she must be very annoying in person.

39:49that they are all like not even willing to like really even entertain what we would normally entertain for someone which is like that's cruel that's too mean that's too far Angela stop it they're probably all like good grief you give it to her you know yeah it seems so so now they're

40:07Ronnie Karam: gonna have a rest before dinner and they all go check out their rooms and Kelly didn't get an attached bathroom so you know she's not loving that but i mean at this point you should just be happy to have shelter i was about to say she barely has an attached roof um so uh shamia's in her room and she uh she gets a text from this woman ashley who is george's wife so shamia's like she shows Kelly the text and she says, Ashley said, Hey girl, call me when you get a chance. Angela's lying. And so the text read says from Ashley, it says, Hey girl, call me when you get a chance. This is Ashley. I would love to clear up the lie that was told about us.

40:52And Shamil's like, yeah, because I didn't know you and I had beef and I thought I was, and you thought I was sleeping with your husband, shaking my SMFH.

41:01Ronnie Karam: And Ashley's like, I never thought that. Angela's lying. She's like, well, then she had the nerve to deny asking you if you had any info on me and said, you all want to just be on the show. And Ashley says, Angela's whole motive is to tarnish your name because of something you said about her, which I didn't ask because it wasn't my business. And I had no information for her. She lives feet from me. She's weird for even telling such a big lie. LOL. Especially putting George in it. George is so happy to be part of this. Now his green beard is on a national platform. He couldn't be more thrilled.

41:38By the way, wouldn't this count as an investigation on Shamia's end? Just saying. Commercials. Here comes one right now.

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43:13Then meanwhile, Angela is trying to take a nap or whatever, and Shamia's showing the text to Pinky now, and Shamia's like, look at this, isn't this wild? Not only trying to come from my marriage, you're trying to tear down my shit with the hawks too and uh angela's just like out of door because it's an old house 1650 the doors are like basically made of paper so she can hear everything that's

43:33Ronnie Karam: happening yeah she was like hey what are you talking about you bold bitch call them call him now like oh angela she's like get out of my room she's like i'm not in your room i haven't gone through your threshold. So, vampire rules. I'm not even in there. Vampire rules. I've been invited into the house, but onto the specific room. I'm in a very strict vampire protocol right now. I literally can't even go into my closet right now to get my dress. The original vampire ghost is in there like, oh my god, this is new for vampires. Everything is a boundary. Once you go in front door, everything is full access.

44:13Jesus. Dum-dum. It's a French.

44:16Ronnie Karam: So Shamia is like, let me slam the door on this. Oh, excuse me. Bye. And she slams the door in her face. And so Angela's just muttering in the hall. Say that shit to my face. Oh. And so Angela's going to call Ashley now. So back in Shamia's room, she's like, she's obsessed. And we still hear Angela screaming. Obsessed with what, Shamia? Open the door and talk. And Kelly's like, Bigfoot wants you to open the door. so it's for me i'm like oh too too low even i fall for it i'm like too low too low so uh angela's like quit using my name

44:56which is a as far as angela's burns go maybe not the best but i i appreciated its very sweaty awkwardness show see what she did she's like damn don't talk about me if you're not going

45:09Ronnie Karam: to say that shit to my face and kelly looks out the door and she's like peekaboo and she goes peekaboo i see you complain hide and go seek come out then and she's just like pacing around her room all pissed so pinky comes out and she's like angela i was told you i was told to give you this olive branch she gives her a little twig it's like she's like take that cheap ass shit that's whack and that's weak come outside and talk to me then porsche appears and uh she's in a little baseball cap because she's taking off her wig and she basically is like, I just want to take my wig off and take a nap.

45:43And she's like,

45:44Ronnie Karam: I just want to take my wig off, scratch my braids and take my bra off. And you guys are already fussing. Come on, man. Shamia's so now like Shamia's like, you can do all you're investigating all you want. But when you start lying and shit, you know, like once you put that kind of shit out there, it sticks. And then it takes forever for people to forget it. Do you understand how that shit looks and makes people feel and pager's like i do get it i i think i've i've flown too close to the sun with that sort of shit before so i definitely get it yeah and we see a flashback to 2014 where kenya is accusing phaedra of having an affair with mr chocolate and she's like child everything's been done to her it's already been done to me shoot so then uh we go by the way that's how you know you're getting a good edit when they show kenya doing it to you instead of what you did to candy no kidding that's a good so now porsha comes in and she's like okay i just talked to shimia and we're all agreeing just to leave it where it's at okay and angela's like i'm calling ashley so she calls ashley who picks up and she's like what's going on what got back to you she goes well shimia said that i told you that her and george were fucking i never told you her and george are fucking and she's like ashley baby i never said that you said that sex is not even something we spoke about flashback to 30 minutes ago ask angela asking to me if she fucked george no i implied it but it didn't come from you and i want to get in front of that with you oh okay i made it up for myself yeah so that i created not that you were messy i was i was in full control of the mess.

47:27It was a 360 mess for me. I was saying that your husband was fucking around. I never said you said it. By the way, your husband's been fucking around. So Ashley's like, yeah, but you pretty much just want to know if I had any information on Shamia and I told you I didn't. I just wanted to remain mutual. I mean, that was pretty much it. She's like, okay. Bye, Ashley. Also, Arlie's going to come over to play. Bye. Bye. Sorry I started a rumor on national TV that your husband's been cheating on you. Bye.

47:57Ronnie Karam: so yeah she's like you pretty much just wanted to know if i had information on shimia and i told you i didn't and i just wanted to remain mutual and that was it and she's like bye so she didn't get what she wanted because now angela looks really stupid so portia's like okay but where did it come up that he was fucking her and angela's like me it came from me like it's the most sensible answer and she's like i never said anybody said anything pager's like because of the money oh yeah the money part so she's like yeah portia's like yeah if you think i'm going to give a reaction to angela saying that shamia slept with george you're going to have to use ai because i'm not going to do it so then they they photoshop angela's face onto the bottom of portia's mouth going she did it she fucked George and she's like and by the way don't do that in posts so now it's time for dinner everyone comes out in their outfits they all look great except Kelly's I don't love Kelly's outfit she's wearing this like blue this big blue kind of like faux fur thing all over and it kind of reminds me of like those like French poodles and I just didn't like this look for her.

49:15Ronnie Karam: It's Grover. It's like she killed Grover and turned it into some weird stripper bagpipe thing. It's bad. It's really bad. It was like the French poodle in Oliver and Company. It's a little bit of a deep cut, but I think it had Bette Midler's voice. Clearly, this is a universal reference, everyone, right? Is everyone getting it? I was sticking with Grover. Yeah. I'm not trying to compare Kelly to a dog. I'm saying her outfit reminded me of the French poodle from Oliver and Company that was voiced by Bette Midler. Everyone, please get off my back. Okay. Well, that outfit was terrible. Georgette.

49:55Ronnie Karam: So, specifically. You're looking at the poster on your wall for reference. Right. I think we all remember Georgette, the French poodle from Oliver and Company. Thank you very much. Richard Mulligan was also a voice actor on that show I mean it really is a collaboration of many stars and luminaries I was like I'll read the book

50:19please sir can I have another

50:21Ronnie Karam: so anyway they all come down so now Phaedra is planning dinner with a chef like an intensive dinner and people get in the car to go out and Shamia is still upset of course she's like you know you saying I'm hoeing around and that they're paying me to sleep put them, I'm a married woman, I have a career, and I would like if she would stop attacking both. And then in the other car, Angela's like, well, I'm just glad you guys were there to hear my side of the story, because I just want truth to prevail. And they're like, ooh, you were just caught in a pretty big stinker there, Angela. Yeah. Pedro's like, without receipt and some fact-finding, accusations like this can be very harmful.

50:59And I was accused of being a dart thrower last year so it's like a circle um then we go to cynthia and drew and kelly in a car and cynthia is like i just don't understand why angela would lie about that i'm like because um you guys are on tv and trying to make stuff work here so cynthia says you know she trusts angela but she just doesn't believe that shamia is having sex with an entire football team an entire basketball team and george there's just not enough hours in the day yeah she's like geez how many hours

51:32Ronnie Karam: are there. It's a lot of men to have sex with. So then back to the other car, Pinky's like, well, at least that text message vindicated you. And she's like, yeah, but now she'll just make something else up. And so now Drew, Kelly and Cynthia, Drew saying, what I gather is a very confusing story. She's like, I can hurt your feelings. And it's like, well, what is that? And Kelly says, well, she didn't though, because when somebody goes back and forth with the person and you keep saying I can hurt your feelings, hurt my feelings and tell me what it is so we can just get it over with, right? Yeah, this is crazy.

52:06Ronnie Karam: They all need to just gather and tell Angela, you can't make up lies about people fucking people. I'm like, right. Well, so now we have, in the portion of Adrian Angela Carr, Angela says that she wants to ask Shamia, why did she say what she said to my daughter? Because at the basketball game last week, as we see again here, Shamia says to Angela's daughter like you're a lot nicer than your mom which I remember at that moment I was like that is a you should not be saying that to someone's daughter like that's a shitty thing to say to someone like that's like actually like rude and that's maybe what has really set off Angela on this episode I think she should have led with that at the lunch instead of this lie about George because this is a this is a legitimate thing to have a frustration about Yeah, but now that you retaliate with your fucking people, you're fucking the green beard car crash guy.

53:04Ronnie Karam: It's like, no one's going to care about the daughter thing now, you know? Angela's just not great at this still. God, she's funny. I'm still on her side, even if she's... You are? Yeah, I mean, she fabricates. It's not right, but just in terms of like, I'm still a fan of hers over Shamia's. In a weird way, I do feel bad for Shamia. Yeah, I do see Shamia as someone who's probably always wanted to be part of the popular group, and she just doesn't have the tools to do it. And so she's always probably, I'm assuming historically, been left out. Always been number two sidekick. The school quarterback went for someone else, not for her.

53:44And so she's probably been hurt a lot because of this. But man, she's just so annoying. so like i'm like i'm very like sympathetic towards her plight in life but i also wish she would like she would just like pull back and just be kind of more just real and herself than this like performative drama club ann hathaway type yeah so portia phadra and angela

54:10Ronnie Karam: angela's like well i didn't bring it up because i'm like how low are we gonna go bringing up my daughter. And Phaedra's like, yeah, we should raise the bar a little bit in this discussion. So they get to dinner and they're eating at a place called Bonnie Badger. And someone's like, what's that? And the guy's like, it's an animal. They're like, like what? Like what kind of animal? Like, well, they guessed something. I forgot what it was. Like a horse? And he's like, no, more like a skunk. And they're like, ew, he wants to eat at a place called skunk. I think he's like well who was drunk came up with that name I mean then again I also had a little THC when I came up with slutty vegan so I'm not judging okay I'm like thank you for wedging in that promotional moment I'm sure we'll find out about it in the TV series okay yeah so yeah exactly Shamia as they sit down at this like Michelin star restaurant by the way the chef's name is his last name is Kitchen so he was really born for this job uh shamia says uh i just want to say something we were at angela's event and one i didn't like that you brought up to uh in front of the whole group because i was already getting my ass handed to me but the other thing is like i don't have any smoke with k and with that like we had nothing to do with anybody in the group and like that's why which is why i don't even know why that even came up because she's talking about how pinky had said at angela's event like is everything good between you and Kay, Shamia?

55:39So she's saying, like, why did you bring that up in front of everyone? I didn't even have an issue with Kay and Michelle, and he made it seem like there was an issue.

55:46Ronnie Karam: And Kay and Michelle was like, well, because it's something that hurt me, and I talked to Pinky about it, okay? And you said to me that night, you come in my life like a hurricane. And I said, good or bad? And you said both. And Shamia's like, well, can you understand my perspective, though? Because when you bring them up, I feel the need to be on the defense. And she's like, But then you brought this up without me bringing them up for her. She's like, but, Kimberly. And she's like, well, I left that club that night in tears. I was a crime. I left in tears. Kay Michelle leaves in tears a lot. Yep.

56:17She leaves in tears and grievances. That's the one thing I've learned. Yeah. Yes. So Shamia's like, okay, I take accountability and I apologize and I won't do it again. So Kay Michelle's like, you know, like. Well, Shamia's been my friend. And she's always let me know what it's cost her. And I'm your friend. and me being your friend is making my other friends mad and I don't give a shit.

56:40Ronnie Karam: And Kay's like, well, I appreciate your apology and I also know you have a huge, huge heart, okay? You have a huge heart, Chromeheart. Is that a store in a mall or is that just like its own store? I don't know. But your heart's so big they should sell it in malls. So, Phaedra is, yeah, they're talking about what Pinky's going to eat. There's going to be nothing for her to eat on this menu. Phaedra's asking, what do we miss? And Pinky's like, she fills her in and everything. And they're talking about the basketball event. And so Portia is, Pinky is like, by the way, how did you guys, did you guys feel the conversation went well?

57:23Shamia and K. Michelle. And they were like, yes, this is a much needed conversation. And K. Michelle's like, you know, I feel like things happen within the friendship and the best way to deal with them is to discuss them I mean, that's what I did. I discussed them in my confessional to America and didn't say anything to you about it. OK.

57:41Ronnie Karam: And they're like, Portia, you didn't complete your end of the bargain that you were supposed to do. Remember, you were supposed to have a talk, too. And then we see a flashback of Pinky saying, well, I already talked to Kay and I'm going to talk to Shamia. And I want you and Kay to have a conversation. And Portia's like, don't you do that. Let me do it. I'll have it. So she didn't do it. And she's like, I didn't have time. The party just started. She goes, OK, well, how do you think the conversation went? Shamia and Shamia's looking annoyed. And Kay's like, well, I think it was a needy conversation.

58:13Ronnie Karam: Me and Shamia have a strong friendship. And I feel that things happen within the friendship. And the best way to deal with them is to discuss them to America, let them fester, then calm down about them and then say, you're welcome to Shamia. so Pinky tells us I worked on the Maury show for almost three years and it was such a good experience because it allowed me to learn how to deal with unhealed people I'm like yes that's I'm sure that was the big takeaway from working on the Maury Povich show is connecting with the unhealed people and I was like you just tell them there's the green room get on stage don't make this don't punch someone in the face I learned a lot in those three years How to attach mics was a big one

59:03Ronnie Karam: So Kelly's saying Well I'm glad that you ladies were able to have that one on one time Where so many people could not like dive into the situation And you really come to resolutions Okay everybody Now no matter Oh and then Kelly's like And no matter what we go through in this group We can get to know each other on another level Phaedra You having my back I really want to thank you and your professionalism. And Phaedra's like, oh, that's so beautiful. Thank you. Thank you. And Angela's saying, do you know how much lawyers cost? Kelly is getting sued from east to the west, the north, the south, and you're getting free counsel?

59:41Maybe I will stand up and do a speech too.

59:46Ronnie Karam: So now they ask Portia how Sway is doing and if she could actually be with a woman long term. and portia says she's always just imagined herself with a husband and how that looks uh but now she pays for her own damn bills and she can do whatever she wants yeah um and so then we started talking about like uh pinky was uh pinky was also in a relationship with a girl for a while for three years actually and uh you know uh they but they didn't get married but uh so they're basically they all kind of start sharing tales of being with women in the past. Yeah. And they're asking her why they didn't get married.

1:00:29Ronnie Karam: And she's like, because I like something a little long and strong. And she said, what ended the relationship is something that happened internal, not because I met the other person. And Phaedra's like, well, I've always known that Pinky, honey, she lives in the lady pond, had her whole body submerged in the lady pond. So Pinky would probably date a woman again. and she's like, I like to have fun. I'm a grown-ass woman. And Portia's like, you should, you should. So Phaedra's saying that she was shocked when she heard that Pinky was marrying a man. And she's like, but you've done it once. You'll do it twice.

1:01:03Ronnie Karam: You'll do it thrice. Okay, Michelle starts talking about her experiences with other women and how she had, there was a woman that was like in her life and she's like, I thought I was gonna be full out gay. I moved her to Atlanta and she hopped on top of my brand new car because I was talking to men, and she tried to beat me up and she ended up with my hairdresser. So that was the end of her lesbian chapter. Oh my god. Gay Michelle, she just has such a way. And Portia's like, what's that in the entertainment business? She's like, well, she wanted to be an actress, but she never did nothing. She was on the couch, though.

1:01:41So she's like, yeah, I don't have men took from me, but I don't have a woman taken from me, too. enough of the gayness i want to be straight again she's like i thought being a lesbian was gonna

1:01:53Ronnie Karam: solve these issues yeah so um let's see phaedra has never angela has never shamia has never and then portia gives her a look and she's like well i kissed a girl not open mouth and they're like did you like it and shamia says yeah and you know i've watched some lesbian porn too. And they're like, ooh, lesbian porn is so sexy. And Kimmichelle goes, Tasty Black. That is a good lesbian porn site. Tasty Black. That's the one I watch. It's neck and neck with Netflix for me. So then Drew's like, Portia, didn't you say that Shamia did kiss a girl? I think it was Candy. And Shamia's like, I didn't kiss Candy, but I have kissed a girl.

1:02:37And Drew's like, well, I remember Portia had said that. And then they were all laughing and having a good time and now it's like, oh god, here we go. And everyone's like, here you go, Borsa, here's a fight for you. Drew has this look like, guys, someone's gotta get this scene going, okay? So Pinky's like, well, I was by the way, speaking of nothing in particular, I was in the car earlier with Angela and Drew, and that was my first time with the two-on-one, and I really enjoyed the car ride, but we just talked about why there was a breakdown and the friendship. And I realized that it really is just like a gap in communication on a lot of things.

1:03:16So Angela, are you good? Are you good, Angela? Do you want to voice anything right now, Angela?

1:03:23Ronnie Karam: Well, I'm good. But Shamia at Maggie Madness, did you approach my daughter? She's like, no, I didn't approach your daughter, but I did meet your daughter. Did you say anything to my daughter that could have been offensive to me she's like i did absolutely yes i said that she's sweeter than you and she's like well that's not something you say to a child you don't understand what we're going through at this moment you overstepped a boundary so i understand if you and i go back and forth but don't include my daughter so drew says i feel like i feel like everything shamia does it's misdirection to portia if she's talking to kelly she really wants to talk to portia if she's talking to me it's because she really wants to talk to portia if she's talking to Angela, she's probably having Portia's face on Angela's face.

1:04:05I think Shamia at some point just needs something from Portia, and she's not getting it. Which, by the way, Drew Sedora, I think that was an accurate assessment. Drew Sedora, I think, getting it right today.

1:04:19Ronnie Karam: So Shamia apologizes, and Angela says, well, what was your implication? She says that you're a mean girl. Well, didn't you imply that my husband didn't love me and that he steps out on me? And she's like, girl, it's only a rebuttal to everything you say about me. But does that make it right? Oh, my God. Angela. Yeah. Angela, you're about to when you get confronted as to why you made up this rumor about George, you're going to say because it was a rebuttal about what she said about me. So don't start don't start rebuttal shaming because you're going to be needing to use that excuse very soon. Rebuttal shaming.

1:04:54Ronnie Karam: So Shimi is like, well, today you said I was fucking George because I did say that. Okay, well, when we throw out these allegations, it's low because people are quick to believe a lie before they believe the truth. And when you come in to receipts, sometimes it's too late. Okay, and so let's bring up the receipts from his wife since you want to. She's like, okay, go ahead. So Shamia's like, Pinky, as someone who's worked in the reality TV industry, could you please read the receipts? So she starts going to, so Pinky's like, okay, this is from Ashley. Hey, girl, call me when you get a chance. I would love to clear up the lie that was told about us.

1:05:31And then Shamir responds, yeah, because I didn't know that you and I had beef and you thought I was sleeping with your husband, shaking my fucking head. And Ashley says, never thought that. Angela's lying, laughing emoji. And Ashley says, Angela's whole motive is to tarnish your name because of something she said. Basically, this is all the same stuff as we read before. So Shamir goes, that's your neighbor. And Pinky goes, end scene. So, of course, she's like, I need the audio book.

1:05:57Ronnie Karam: yeah and they're like why Angela why and she's like girl you're a goddamn liar see what we didn't know is we called Ashley and Ashley and I spoke for two minutes like two minutes that's all you got yes two minutes and now she said that you told her that I said that she said you fucked George and I said no you I said you fucked George I asked her I asked her did you know did you know because I'm about to go off on you and I don't want to hurt your feelings. So let's get the story straight. So Angela does this whole explanation that barely makes sense because again, let me restate this sentence.

1:06:36Ashley said that you told her that I said that she said you fucked George. So Shamia is like what are you making up lies about? She's like one lie at a time. She liar. So she's still workshopping.

1:06:52Ronnie Karam: You're the one who's lying. she's a liar she tried to show uh show show show show show show earlier and now she's a liar yeah so um so pinky's like so you're basically saying you didn't say ashley said it and kelly's like you even said that george paid her and angela said george said i paid her and shimmy is like for charity this fight is so stupid come on now and Cynthia's like if George's wife is texting the said person who is allegedly fucking him that it's not true then I think we have no case here but ask Phaedra Phaedra's like your honor let the record show that Angela Oakley's allegations are pure baloney I rest my case so Pinky's like so is he confirming that you to you that they had sex Angel's like, well, I didn't have a conversation with him.

1:07:51I just said it. I'm like, okay. Got it. Shamil's like, your receipts don't land. Just like you created that shit against Phaedra, you're creating this shit against me because you're a lying-ass bitch.

1:08:04Ronnie Karam: It's like, I set it up against Phaedra? Yes, you create shit. You fabricate shit. It's like, girl, you're delusional. Some-lusional. You act like you're married to the fucking Prince of Zamunda, bitch. she's like i am i'm married to the prince of kenya bitch and she goes okay well bark what bark on one lego you lapdog bitch oh god this is ridiculous and she me it's like that nose is going to be lifting the rest of your life oh she's like okay you angry bird looking bitch is beyonce in the motherfucking room uh guys guys guys they're gonna kick us out we're actually like a nice restaurant so please do not waste this money that we spent for Phaedra's birthday.

1:08:49Please. At the end of the day we know things have to be discussed then we just have to move on at some point because honestly because then it just goes to insults and you know we talk now but we're just gonna like raise the roof on this house. So please this is a nice restaurant. Can we wait to wear it like some cheap free meal? Thanks.

1:09:07Ronnie Karam: Yeah so now they just agree to all get along which of course means that dinner's over. There's nothing else to So we go back to the house and Portia and Phaedra are having takeout and Cynthia comes in wearing a beret and like full on costume pajamas. And they're like, damn, you're really you're really dedicated to the bit, babe. And Drew has a headline from reality. Kelly Farrell's ex-husband Mark files a 200 million dollar lawsuit against Bravo over comments made about him on Real Housewives. And Cynthia's like 200 million dollars. you're not gonna win that yeah you're not you're definitely not no no so they're like oh wow because kelly comes in and they're like wow we just saw this we just saw this article and kelly's like you know all this time i stayed quiet it's like you want to just keep peace and i want to protect my girls at all costs especially if it means i could film them where they could be unprotected and then at some point you just get tired because it's like you fight so much and i don't think people understand when I was like this, like I got this capacity and like, you don't have a lot left in you.

1:10:17Right. It's just like hard. And like, you're fighting everyone. You're fighting your children. You're fighting your business. You're fighting in the friend group. It's so hard. And Portia's like, and you're fighting me too. Don't forget. And she's like, and I don't want to fight with you anymore. She says, I don't want to fight either. So they basically bury the hatchet now, you know, they have one of these kind of like drunken late night like everything is fine now conversations which never seem to really work out but for now

1:10:41Ronnie Karam: that it will well yeah they're all going through divorces too so drew's crying too she's like what about me what about me in my house that i'm gonna lose i guess yes and porsche is like it's more than about the house it's where the home is which better be that seven million dollar house and so they all agree to get along it's nice and phaedra and uh i mean portia and kelly officially make up again and everybody's like isn't this so beautiful and then portia's like y 'all need to go to your rooms and masturbate and sleep well tonight so the first day of the scottish trip is done some spiciness some resolution and we'll have to see what the rest of the trip offers us but in the meantime thanks everyone for being here stick around for our rhode island recap coming up next on the podcast feed and also join us on amazon this afternoon and we will catch you on the next watch what crappens bye watch what crappens would like to thank its premium sponsors she answered the call it's adia paul ain't no thing like alison king our way is the amber way It's the Foster and the Furious.

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